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raven
trollhattan
Gator grabber! Why couldn’t Trump have focused on that?
The Moar You Know
The little ones are the fast ones.
Mart
I see a mouse and I jump up on a chair. This guy sees a gator and taps its tail? I must of spent too much time in the big city.
trollhattan
Am beginning to think we elected one of the mean girls.
Roger Moore
@raven:
Did they bother to encrypt the fucker, or are they too incompetent to manage that? And how soon can we expect the most damaging information on Hillary to wind up on Wikileaks?
GregB
Trump just admitted he was a traitor.
Aleta
Olympic quality dive.
dmsilev
@raven: Dare we ask why a Secret Service laptop has details on what is supposedly an FBI investigation?
Roger Moore
@GregB:
What did he say?
Aleta
@dmsilev: Oh wth let’s.
Chris
I should send this to my FSU relatives and see if it jump-stars some choice comments about Gator cowardice.
raven
@dmsilev: uh @dmsilev:ah huh!
germy
@Roger Moore: Windows 10
raven
I hate Michigan but that was one hell of a game!
Another Scott
@trollhattan: I’m no expert on body language, and had the sound off, but his repeated tapping his hands together and the grimace indicate to me that he hates sitting there and wants everyone (including Angela) gone.
Cheers,
Scott.
Betty Cracker
@Chris: Fuck FSU!
SiubhanDuinne
@Another Scott:
I guess he’s not taking her to Mar-a-Lago for the weekend then?
geg6
@raven:
Irony really is dead, isn’t it?
Roger Moore
@germy:
Doesn’t tell you anything. The encryption still isn’t turned on by default. You’d hope government IT would do that before issuing the computers, but I have no confidence in anyone in government IT except for Soonergrunt.
hovercraft
I swear these people just can’t be parodied.
White House Cites Parody Article (Not) Supportive Of Trump’s Proposed Budget
By Matt Shuham PublishedMarch 17, 2017, 2:13 PM EDT
The White House cited a parody article published in the Washington Post as support for President Donald Trump’s proposed budget.
The article, “Trump’s budget makes perfect sense and will fix America, and I will tell you why,” was penned by the Post’s Alexandra Petri for her “ComPost” column.
“This budget will make America a lean, mean fighting machine with bulging, rippling muscles and not an ounce of fat,” Petri wrote in the article. “America has been weak and soft for too long. BUT HOW WILL I SURVIVE ON THIS BUDGET? you may be wondering. I AM A HUMAN CHILD, NOT A COSTLY FIGHTER JET. You may not survive, but that is because you are SOFT and WEAK, something this budget is designed to eliminate.”
Petri then ran down a list of agencies that would be affected by Trump’s budget draft.
“There will be no LABOR in the future,” she wrote of proposed cuts to the Department of Labor. “Labor is what women do, I think. All fetuses will burst out of wombs brandishing an Uzi on each arm. (Also, we will cut the funding to the people who would have explained that this is not how birth or labor works.)”
The White House included the article at the bottom of its “1600 Daily” newsletter. (Here’s an archived copy.)
Petri seemed to delight in the mistake on her Twitter account, reposting the musician Jenks Miller, who wrote, “You all may need to be more clear about what’s actually a parody during this administration,” and responding in her own right to the mix-up:
Betty Cracker
Regarding Merkel, at least Trump won’t menace her with a dog like Putin did since Trump doesn’t have a pet, not even a hairless cat to stroke while contemplating extortion schemes. Still, poor Merkel. I bet she misses PBO damn near as much as we do!
raven
@geg6: So will I be if Michigan State loses!
SiubhanDuinne
@GregB:
What on earth did he say now? Assume this was during the joint presser with Chancellor Markel. Haven’t been watching/listening, but will catch it later or at least read the transcript.
hovercraft
@SiubhanDuinne:
And I’m sure she’s thankful for it. Can you imagine the conversation with her aide on the flight home, she’ll be glad she kept her “sex bomb” to a minimum. ;- )
Chris
@Betty Cracker:
Sorry. I don’t really care, but the FSU relatives are the liberal ones, and the Florida Gators ones are the conservative ones, so my biases run in that direction.
Another Scott
@SiubhanDuinne: If she coughs up the $200k to join, I’m sure he’d be happy to have her!! Maybe Sessions could be her waiter instead of the greeter this time?!
:-/
Cheers,
Scott.
trollhattan
@Another Scott: @SiubhanDuinne:
I’m expecting Trump to take to the Twitters.
“I don’t get why Bush gave her the backrub; Merkel is a five on a good day. SAD! #BringMeClaudiaSchiffer”
NYCMT
Preet Bharara was fired from SDNY because (among other reasons) he was investigating Tom Price’s stock trades…
Oh goody
SiubhanDuinne
@Betty Cracker:
FTFY, Betty!
schrodingers_cat
@trollhattan: His number is negative infinity as a human being.
Roger Moore
@NYCMT:
Swamping the drain as usual. BTW, you somehow messed up both your link and the reply button.
hovercraft
@Betty Cracker:
Yes he does, he has a vicious jackal named Bannon, he is plenty menacing and mean.
Jeffro
@hovercraft: Petri rocks! =)
SiubhanDuinne
@Another Scott:
Does Mar-a-Lago even accept Euros, though?
€€€€€€€€€
Betty Cracker
@Chris: Just a reflexive response. I’ve only got one FSU fan relative, and he’s a raving wingnut ass, but there are both libs and cons among the many more Gators among us!
trollhattan
@Betty Cracker:
Heard this a.m. that Merkel and Obama had a friendly, if keen “prep” rivalry and would try to outdo one another in their knowledge of the topics at hand. I can well imagine Roosevelt and Churchill having a similar relationship.
We seem to have ditched that whole notion.
SiubhanDuinne
@Jeffro:
And when she’s in full gossip mode, Petri dishes!
MomSense
@trollhattan:
I prefer it when the nerds are in charge.
Yarrow
@GregB:
I heard it too! I saw the clip that didn’t include the question. I’m guessing it was “trader” but sounded like “traitor” when he said it. Heh.
hovercraft
@trollhattan:
I bet Twitler can beat her if the contest is who knows more about what’s trending on Twitter, that’s a topic at hand, no?
trollhattan
@hovercraft:
Bannon has a perfect role model in Igor.
SiubhanDuinne
@hovercraft:
Oh, that’s funny. Never saw Tracy Ullman’s take on her. That’s good stuff ?
TenguPhule
@dmsilev: We’ve found the Russian mole in the SS?
GregB
@Roger Moore:
Trader……I assumed traitor.
Pogonip
@trollhattan: I remember reading he has a germ phobia, not big on handshaking. I myself would like to see it replaced with bowing or wai-ing, anything where you keep your hands to yourself.
I wai’d at my aunt once; she looked confused; I said “Did I do it wrong?” She said “You’re American, not expected to know how to do it at all!” ?
Dr. Bloor
@Another Scott: Ivanka won’t let him watch his shows when company is over.
hovercraft
@SiubhanDuinne:
She’s one of regular characters, can’t wait for her new takes on her interactions with Twitler.
Oh crap, just checked it came back last week, HBO, for anyone interested.
randy khan
@Roger Moore:
I think all of the damaging information on Clinton already has been leaked. That was the job the New York FBI office took on, and they never shirk.
Major Major Major Major
@dmsilev: Hell, for all we know, the laptop contained a news article about the investigation, the media needed a hook for that story, and they went and printed EMAILGHAZI BLARRRGH
Roger Moore
@Pogonip:
How about a good American fist bump? It isn’t completely keeping your hands to yourself, but there’s a lot less skin contact- and less chance for competitive hand crushing- than a traditional handshake.
randy khan
@trollhattan:
So what’s Merkel doing with the time she’s saving now?
The Moar You Know
It happens.
It was encrypted as per NIST 800, right? RIGHT? NIST 800 is MANDATORY for government computers. I’ve been busting my balls for two years to get my workplace compliant. Exceptions are not allowed for anything that does or could have sensitive info on it.
Whoa. Hold the phone. Why would a Secret Service laptop have any information at all on a non-Secret Service criminal investigation? Of anyone, never mind a former Secretary of State? This is not plausible, not at all.
I can see the false flag from here, guys. Get ready for Wikileaks to dump a whole bunch of “Clinton investigation” material that was supposedly gleaned from this laptop.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Pogonip: He has shaken hands with others. With other people he has that weird attack handshake where after a couple of shakes he yanks hard on the hand and pulls the other person off balance. Trudeau managed to anticipate the move and block it.
trollhattan
@hovercraft: @SiubhanDuinne:
That was funny as hell. I worship Tracy Ullman.
pamelabrown53
@trollhattan: #5.
OMG. Trump’s blatant disrespect of Merkel should be a huge story. That was an amazing piece of video. My belief is that the Bannon faction thinks Trump’s disdain for Merkel will strengthen the white supremacy nationalism political parties in Germany.
trollhattan
@randy khan:
Memorizing the exits.
Mike J
Spanky
@Mike J: “US reporters shocked at German reporter demonstrating journalistic integrity.”
bystander
@randy khan: If there had been anything actually damaging about Clinton, we would have heard about it long before now.
Trump is a complete embarrassment to America. I’m watching Idiocracy. Besides the scarily prescient nature of the film, I’m struck by how much more likeable President Camacho is than Twitler. Sad.
TenguPhule
@Mike J: US shocked by real journalism.
TenguPhule
@bystander: We’re in an alternative grimdark version of Idiocracy where the humor has been replaced by Khornite worshippers.
Shell
Goosing an alligator?. Guess thats gotta go on my bucket list.
Josie
@hovercraft: I read her article. You could tell from the very beginning it was tongue in cheek. They should have known from reading the first couple of sentences. Reading comprehension fail on their part.
trollhattan
@Shell:
True. When cow-tipping just won’t do.
Roger Moore
@The Moar You Know:
That former Secretary of State is also a former first lady and entitled to security managed by the Secret Service. That might explain why somebody who’s apparently involved in the protection side of the business- hence the Trump Tower plans- would also have stuff related to Hillary Clinton. I don’t think it’s likely, but it’s the only remotely plausible explanation I can think of.
Maybe also some fabricated stuff about wiretaps in Trump Tower, also, too.
Major Major Major Major
@Roger Moore:
This is exactly what I was thinking.
Aleta
Young Ivanka was Trump’s pet and he doesn’t ever want another.
raven
@trollhattan: Lion in a race car?
pamelabrown53
@Mike J: #58.
It’s frightening that US reporters should be shocked at what is obvious. Hopefully, some will be “shocked” into asking the same types of questions when they see their foreign counterparts stepping up to the plate.
Who here thinks I’m overly optimistic?
schrodingers_cat
@Mike J: US political media is by and large as useless as the Republican party.
hovercraft
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
Maybe they told him to tone it down after they saw the Trudeau block and so now he’s pouting?
Short Finger Donny doesn’t like being told no.
@Mike J:
Just wait till he ventures overseas, he controls the questions from the US press, but his host gets to pick from their media, how much you want to bet they pick people they know will make him squirm. Hell the most uncomfortable I’ve seen him with an interviewer was Letterman, he’s just not used to being challenged.
Spanky
@pamelabrown53:
If only your name were “Katie” ….
schrodingers_cat
@pamelabrown53: They are shocked because they are a subsidiary of the Republican party.
Humboldtblue
Ireland PM Enda Kenney just quoted the Statue of Liberty poem while Trump glared at him.
“We were the wretched refuse on the teeming shore,” Irish prime minister says with Donald Trump in the room.
Major Major Major Major
@pamelabrown53: They’ll only start asking the same types of questions if their colleagues (and them!) report on the question as a good question and the person who did the asking (or the people who are legitimately inspired by the asking) are rewarded with prestige and money.
Which is all possible, I suppose. But the WH press isn’t going to suddenly start asking tough questions (when they’re called on at all) just because they see somebody else doing it.
Pogonip
@Roger Moore: It could still pass colds and flu. I’m holding out for bowing.
cain
@The Moar You Know:
Nyah, it was encrypted with Shitstorm2017.
Humboldtblue
@trollhattan:
The first time I saw her I was floored. Genius, the woman was simply genius from the get-go.
cain
@Spanky:
The man is going to have to avoid countries like Germany. Never know when these pesky journalists are going to show up and ask him questions.
lollipopguild
@cain: He will need to stay in the U.S. then. House arrest anyone?
Humboldtblue
Look at Merkel’s face when Trump tries to “fake news” the German journalist.
This is not only fucking dangerous it’s humiliating. This can’t go on.
Major Major Major Major
@lollipopguild:
I’m sure he’ll be a war criminal by the time he leaves the White House, so this would be a good policy for him in general going forward.
The Moar You Know
@Pogonip: You’re not the only one. I had a social thing recently with a guy who declared “oh, I’m a hugger!”. He came up to me and I just stood there, arms crossed. He said “C’mon, give me a hug!” and I just stood there, looked him right in the eye, and said “I don’t do that shit.” He flipped out, because he’s a manipulative asshole doing the same thing with his “hugs” that Trump does with his handshakes. And I don’t take well to that dominance bullshit.
Mike J
Regarding the missing laptop, BBC hed is,
Quote marks in original.
Looks like the most important thing on the laptop is the rotation of the secret service hard pins.
lollipopguild
@Humboldtblue: Politicians in other countries are not going to kiss his ass. He needs to get used to this.
Yarrow
@Mike J:
That is awesome. I love that our allies are sick of his shit. Show our poor excuse for reporters, journalists and media how it’s supposed to be done.
TenguPhule
@The Moar You Know:
But it puts you in the perfect position to knee him in the crotch.
Roger Moore
@Major Major Major Major:
He’ll also be a common criminal in the US, so he’s going to need to look for a country without a US extradition treaty. I hear Russia is a good place…
Bruuuuce
@hovercraft: Terrific parody. And nobody on the right has yet caught that she means “fix” in the veterinary sense.
hovercraft
@Mike J:
While foreign journalists ask real questions CNN has this headline.
Donald Trump’s words are catching up to his presidency
The “reporter is apparently just noticing that all the bullshit Twitler spouted last year was bullshit and now that he’s president, he’s getting real push back based on his own words, from the courts, foreign leaders and even republicans scared of what following him will do to them. Maybe if there had been more stories about him being a lying full of shit liar, instead of about the size of his rallies and the stupid nicknames he had for everyone voters wouldn’t have thought he was more honest than Hillary.
petesh
Back to the OP: Doesn’t the PGA have rules about removing natural obstacles? Stroke penalty?
hovercraft
@Humboldtblue:
Twitler better get used to it, the snubs and tweaks will be continuous, just look at Trudeau inviting Lucretia to a Broadway opening this week about Canada’s compassion and empathy, no hidden meaning there right? And how can anyone be offended by the Taoiseach was just showing his respect and admiration for America by reciting from the words on the Statue of Liberty, why the glare?
Yarrow
@petesh: He didn’t remove the obstacle. He touched the alligator’s tail and the alligator decided to remove itself.
@Roger Moore: Question: If Donald Trump leaves office as a criminal but doesn’t end up in prison does he receive Secret Service protection? What if he escapes to Russia?
Mike J
@petesh: You want him to stroke off an alligator? Pervert.
Gin & Tonic
@Bruuuuce: Almost like she learned something from our old friend and her sometime interlocutor DougJ.
Kay
The gross nepotism and self-dealing never ends with these people . There is a story A DAY like this and they’re only 3 months in.
It’s like they’re running some half-assed disreputable family business out of the White House.
hovercraft
@petesh:
He took it, he stroked it’s tail, it’s right there in the clip.
Yarrow
@Kay:
It’s not like that. It is that. Along with committing treason.
TenguPhule
@Kay:
There’s no like about this. They are.
Major Major Major Major
@Kay: Good god.
You apologize to half-assed disreputable family businesses right now!
ThresherK
No Mnemosyne? That’s understandable, because she is best summoned to a thread by having two different people type the words “pre Code“.
It’s like some sort of Bat Signal for old-school movie fans.
The Moar You Know
@TenguPhule: It would; but to get there you have to play the little game. And I’m not only not interested, I find that kind of proximity to people I don’t know utterly revolting.
If I were a woman he’d have tried to force it and then ended up calling me a man-hating lesbian within one minute and been saying shit about my mental state all night. Since I’m a big guy who looks ex-military (I’m not) he shut the fuck up and backed off. The upshot of my evening was that I felt even sorrier for women than I normally do, because this is exactly the shit they have to put up with all the time and they can’t say no without being called bitches or worse.
Spanky
@Kay:
“Like” ?!? That’s exactly what it is. They’re stripping the assets and screwing the employees – us citizens.
Yarrow
@ThresherK: She went to Disneyworld.
Bruuuuce
@Kay: The only question is whether the family running their business is one of the Families here in the NYC area to whom El Presidente fell into debt via his construction and casinos, or whether it’s his Russian banksters.
kindness
I don’t know but I suspect that gator is big enough to make some sweet steaks & a killer pair of boots. Of course I’ve never tanned leather in my life but…..
Ruviana
@Kay: Two months in. It only feels like three months (or maybe three years…)
Chris
@Yarrow:
It’s really funny to watch American conservative politicians who think they live in a maelstrom of “unfair” “fake news” “liberal media” persecution making contact with the world outside the U.S, and catching a whiff of what an actually confrontational media is like.
Bruuuuce
@Gin & Tonic: Credit where credit is due, for sure.
hovercraft
‘Merica !!
Kids on winning robotics team told, ‘Go back to Mexico’
USA Today Network Suzette Hackney, The Indianapolis Star Published 12:10 p.m. ET March 17, 2017 | Updated 60 minutes ago
INDIANAPOLIS — The day should have been one of glory and celebration for five fourth-graders.
The Pleasant Run Elementary students had just won a robotics challenge at Plainfield High School, and the students — new to bot competition this year — were one step closer to the Vex IQ State Championship.
Then racism got in the way.
For the record, their race or ethnicity shouldn’t be a part of this story. But it is.
The team is made up of 9- and 10-year-olds. Two are African American and three are Latino.
As the group, called the Pleasant Run PantherBots, and their parents left the challenge last month in Plainfield, Ind., competing students from other Indianapolis-area schools and their parents were waiting for them in the parking lot.
“Go back to Mexico!” two or three kids screamed at their brown-skin peers and their parents.
This verbal attack had spilled over from the gymnasium. While the children were competing, one or two parents disparaged the Pleasant Run kids with racist comments — and loud enough for the Pleasant Run families to hear.
“They were pointing at us and saying that ‘Oh my God, they are champions of the city all because they are Mexican. They are Mexican, and they are ruining our country,’ ” Diocelina Herrera, the mother of PantherBot Angel Herrera-Sanchez, heard a woman say.
If you allow racism and hate to dictate these things, minority students from the east side of the city, poor kids from a Title I school, aren’t supposed to be smart. They aren’t supposed to be talented. They aren’t supposed to be technologically savvy.
And they definitely aren’t supposed to be able to best white students from surrounding communities.
“For the most part, the robotics world is kind of a white world,” said Lisa Hopper, the team’s coach and a Pleasant Run second-grade teacher. “They’re just not used to seeing a team like our kids.
“And they see us and they think we’re not going to be competition. Then we’re in first place the whole day, and they can’t take it,” she said…………
hovercraft
@Gin & Tonic:
How’s the arm today?
lollipopguild
@ThresherK: So you are saying that “pre code” is a secret password like “sedagive” or is it more like “put the candle back!”?
SiubhanDuinne
@hovercraft:
Reading that made my stomach hurt and my eyes sad.
Major Major Major Major
@hovercraft: Wow, so, I’m white, but I assume this sort of out-in-the-open, in-a-school-gymnasium, hurled-at-children-by-parents racism used to be not normal?
TenguPhule
@hovercraft: Today the taunting. In the near future…the lynchings.
Gods, I wish I was joking.
Spanky
More on the laptop, per CNN:
No word about butheremails.
Gin & Tonic
@hovercraft: It hurts. I have to wait until Monday for the ortho consult, so it will be a long weekend, leavened with narcotics.
TenguPhule
@Yarrow:
1. Sadly, probably yes.
2. If he flees arrest, no. And then its open bounty season on his head. Just his head.
Major Major Major Major
@Spanky: Well, highly encrypted is good, unless their password was password.
Certified Mutant Enemy
@Another Scott:
The meeting is cutting into his Fox “News” viewing time…
hovercraft
I apologize for stepping on Adams turf, but good lord this mug shot is just, ugh, click if you dare.
Man fondling himself in front of kids at playground had to be pulled away, cops say
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article138935718.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark#storylink=cpy
TenguPhule
@Spanky: Deepstate has had enough of Frump. If Frump doesn’t take the hint, pre-emptive pest control will commence.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major: The password is always swordfish.
Spanky
Hey! You guys are getting lax. This is the first I’ve heard of this item:
How can I rely on Balloon Juice for all my breaking news if no one posts stuff?
Major Major Major Major
@TenguPhule: Better than catfish.
SiubhanDuinne
Saw a snippet from the Trump-Merkel presser and at one point he said of the United States “We’re a very strong company.” Yes, he caught himself and corrected it to “strong country,” but it’s a telling little verbal slip, I think.
Spanky
@hovercraft:
Leading one to wonder what he was “pulled away” by.
lollipopguild
@TenguPhule: Or “Whyaduck?”
ThresherK
@lollipopguild: Well, for certain people. I would include NotMax in that group too. And a couple others whose nyms slip me at the moment.
@Yarrow: I remember the mention of that happening, but still Disney World must have wifi.
TenguPhule
@Spanky: We don’t reward failure here.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major: You fail your classic movie reference exams forever.
lollipopguild
@TenguPhule: People who have not watched all Marx Brothers movies should not be allowed to comment here.
Major Major Major Major
@TenguPhule: Swordfish is a classic? Your universe is weird.
Mike J
@Yarrow: Secret service protection extends ten years after leaving office, and Trump is already 70.
It used to be lifetime protection, but Republicans didn’t like Bill Clinton.
schrodingers_cat
@hovercraft: These people were always with us. Because of T they are emboldened to behave this way in public.
OGLiberal
This story makes me uncomfortable..like really..the comments make me want to leave the country…and I’m not Jewish:
http://www.nj.com/ocean/index.ssf/2017/03/nj_town_bans_dorms_as_orthodox_jewish_population_g.html
I’m from NJ and we have our share of winguts, depsite being reliably blue. So I read that Lakewood (not far from me but far enough that I have virtually no contact with their community) is very Orthodox Jewish (59%) and was the #1 Trump supporting town in NJ in 2016. So was it a bunch of Muslim hating Jewish folks voting for him or was it a bunch of native white folks pissed that those dude with the weird hats and curly hair were invading their town while the Jewish folks either didn’t vote or couldn’t (not citizens) vote? Don’t think the demo voting data drills down deep enough to tell me that.
Mike J
@Major Major Major Major: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySqec8WrEQQ
Yarrow
@ThresherK: She’s posted a few times from there. But she’s with two nieces so I’m sure she’s pretty busy. Hopefully her knee isn’t keeping her from having a good time.
pamelabrown53
@Major Major Major Major: #76.
You’re right in that I can’t remember WHPC “smart” questions, Only inane, republican framed ones.
Still, I harbor a hope that something will spark a modicum of pride in their profession.
Yarrow
@Mike J: Sure. But that doesn’t really address my question. Does Secret Service protection extend to convicted criminal presidents? What about former presidents who have fled the country to, say, Russia? Does the SS have to follow along and provide protection? How would all that work?
schrodingers_cat
@OGLiberal: White supremacists hate Jewish people more than they hate anyone else. So I am not surprised.
hovercraft
@Mike J:
They were forced to basically push it back up to lifetime, all the livings still have it, I’m pretty sure. I could be wrong but I remember reading that somewhere.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major: Trump is in power here.
Major Major Major Major
@Mike J: aha, haven’t seen that one yet.
@pamelabrown53: they say the problem is the high value WHPC types place on ‘access’, right? There have been some theories that this admin will finally break that fever but I doubt it.
ThresherK
@Yarrow: Yeah, she has better things to do. I hope the weather is cooperating down there at least.
Roger Moore
@Yarrow:
I don’t think the law as currently written has anticipated anything like that, so there wouldn’t be any exception for those cases. If he were convicted of something, he might wind up serving his term under house arrest with the Secret Service protection helping to keep him there. And former presidents can waive their right to Secret Service protection if they choose; it would seem an obvious choice for a former president hiding out in a non-extradition country to avoid prosecution. In practice, Congress would probably write some kind of exception into the law when faced with a case like that.
waysel
@lollipopguild: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3hjo7V7TPs
Yarrow
@ThresherK: One early comment she said it was cold for Florida–highs in the low 60’s. Haven’t seen a comment for a day or so. I hope it warmed up for them.
@Roger Moore: I can’t imagine Trump waiving his right to anything he gets via the presidency. Congress is going to have to get creative because he’s not going to leave the White House willingly. And he’ll demand every perk.
Mike J
@Roger Moore: Keep in mind that Secret Service agents are sworn law enforcement, so while they might protect him, they would also be obligated to arrest him and bring him in. All cops are legally obligated to protect the people in their custody, so there’s no contradiction with protecting and arresting him.
The Moar You Know
@Mike J: Back to lifetime protection again. Someone realized that W. was going to live a lot longer than 10 years after leaving office, and the propaganda value of wacking him would be immense. Think Obama signed the revision.
ETA: yup, signed Jan 2013 by President Obama.
PaulW
As a Floridian, the little ones are fast but they’re easier to kick.
As long as you stay to their tailside, they can’t turn fast enough to bite you, so they go with the other option of Fight/Flight and run for the nearest body of water.
Now, once you get to the 14-footers, you don’t mess with those. they may not be as maneuverable but their tails are deadly.
SWMBO
@The Moar You Know: Does Darth Cheney get SS protection? I know current Vice Presidents get SS protection because they are next in line but do former VPs? Also does Paulie Blue Eyes get SS protection since he’s third in line?
SWMBO
@PaulW: When we moved here in the late 70s, there was a news cast about a family who had a gator invade their sun room. It was after their dog and toddler. They called the cops and tried to shoot the gator. The bullet bounced off the hide and could have killed someone. They had to get a game warden out with ropes to tie it up (duct tape the mouth shut) and have people on each side pulling to keep the tail from whipping their feet out from under them. The sun porch was destroyed and they eventually got the gator out but it was nearly gator 1 people 0.
And yes, it was about 14-15 feet long.
Mike J
@SWMBO: They only lifted it on President and first lady. President’s children get protection until they’re 16, which seems too short to me.
Roger Moore
@Yarrow:
He’d have to be insanely stupid to want protection provided by a government he’s actively trying to flee. Even if he had his own guards to protect him from the Secret Service arresting him and bringing him home to face justice, what would stop them from providing information to, say, Seal Team 6, or just assassinating him?
ETA: @Mike J:
This was rather what I had in mind when saying a former president who was on the lam might want to decline his Secret Service protection.
trollhattan
@SWMBO: Would be remiss to not link this.
Kenneth Kohl
@SiubhanDuinne: I’m sure that Deutsche Bank will convert the currency
Kenneth Kohl
Regarding the gator – I’d go ahead, take two club lengths and take my free drop
trollhattan
@Kenneth Kohl:
Being St Paddy’s day and all, they simply have to name that gator Mulligan.
Ohio Mom
@OGLiberal: Orthodox Jews are hard core right wingers, and they vote.
There is the belief that Republicans are “better for Israel.” They love the idea of “school choice” because they’d like to have someone else foot the bill for their private schools. They probably appreciate the right wing’s sexism.
One irony is that the ultra-Orthodox unabashedly avail themselves of the welfare state. How else do you think they can afford a dozen kids per family?
Mnemosyne
Yikes! So far, no one has been eaten by an alligator, but we go home tomorrow, so there’s still time. ?
prob50
@The Moar You Know:
Not a hugger either, except for with my niece and nephew who grew up with their grandma and turned out to be really good & nice people after my brother’s marriage fell apart. Grandma was a fantastic influence and was into hugging. They probably really needed it, too.
sukabi
@Roger Moore: there shouldn’t have been anything regarding the FBI investigation of Clinton’s emails on any Secret Service laptop as they weren’t involved in the “investigations”.
PaulW
@Chris: GO GATORS.
and you should have lost to FGCU. I call shenanigans.
Tehanu
@schrodingers_cat:
I was a kid when they integrated Little Rock High School and I’ll never forget seeing the screaming, cursing white mothers, faces distorted by hate and rage, on the news. Fairly sure those were the mothers and grandmothers of the ones screaming today.
mapaghimagsik
@The Moar You Know: Yup, the rubes will love it.