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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Late Night TGIF Open Thread: Cartoon Villains

Late Night TGIF Open Thread: Cartoon Villains

by Anne Laurie|  March 17, 201711:21 pm| 108 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Assholes, Clown Shoes

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Long weeks and longer hours at every newsroom these days — the occupants get a little punch-drunk…

Sean Hannity pulled a gun on Juan Williams at Fox, @DylanByers reports. Apparently that's OK newsroom behavior https://t.co/VBYJR5P8xw

— Philip Rucker (@PhilipRucker) March 16, 2017

Phil it's not "ok." I see where this is headed. You *cannot* bring your nunchucks into the office again. HR was very clear. https://t.co/xL2oMVIlr2

— David Fahrenthold (@Fahrenthold) March 17, 2017

Now it can be told: why I write for @washingtonpost from home. https://t.co/WMucdCEynv

— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) March 17, 2017

And then there’s this dude…

Top @realDonaldTrump advisor/confidante @RogerJStoneJr with wife Nydia at the Inauguration. #Dandy #Style pic.twitter.com/dULvingycv

— Stone On Style (@stoneonstyle) January 23, 2017

To serve Trump you gotta dress like the vampire-werewolf alliance that has shaped human history from the shadows pic.twitter.com/lgiauTUdVY

— Zedd's Not Dead (@ZeddRebel) March 16, 2017

@Azraith @spookperson it isn't cosplay :(

— Janet Willson (@JanetWillsone) March 16, 2017

Per The A.V. Club:

… Given that Stone was also hit by a car this week, it says something about what a piece of work he is that we don’t feel all that terrible about the days-long lampooning his Inauguration Day duds have been getting of late. Dig your way past assertions that he was in contact with Russian hackers during the election, and you still run into decades worth of racist comments, Nixon adoration, Alex Jones-guesting, and general sack-of-shittery that tempers our normally storied empathy, especially when the jokes are this good. While multiple Twitter users took their shots at Stone’s top-hat-and-goggles ensemble, it was writer @SpookPerson—a.k.a. “Goth Ms. Frizzle”—who took him on as a comedy muse, putting together 70 or so legitimately sick burns over the course of a couple of hours…

my boy looks like willy wonka if it took place during the industrial revolution and all the kids just straight up died

— Goth Ms. Frizzle (@spookperson) March 15, 2017


I've said enough but it really is nice to see snidely whiplash getting work again

— Goth Ms. Frizzle (@spookperson) March 15, 2017

The mean tweets replying to Stone’s original are pretty good, too…

.@stoneonstyle @realDonaldTrump @RogerJStoneJr Super excited they're finally producing an authentic remake of The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari pic.twitter.com/4p59gG8I5C

— Ben Mankiewicz (@BenMank77) March 16, 2017

@stoneonstyle @realDonaldTrump @RogerJStoneJr I can tell it's the inauguration because almost nobody is there

— Matthew Kory (@mattymatty2000) March 16, 2017

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108Comments

  1. 1.

    NotMax

    March 17, 2017 at 11:26 pm

    Meh. Low hanging fruit.

  2. 2.

    amk

    March 17, 2017 at 11:33 pm

    To future foreign leaders planning to kiss the king’s asshole’s ring – Don’t.

  3. 3.

    Jerzy Russian

    March 17, 2017 at 11:36 pm

    That last tweet deserves at least a smirk.

  4. 4.

    dm

    March 17, 2017 at 11:36 pm

    Taste set by the Nixon Palace White House Guard uniform designs.

  5. 5.

    Jay Noble

    March 17, 2017 at 11:42 pm

    Appropriate – the Monopoly guy slimmed down on a Paleo diet of kids and olds

  6. 6.

    Yarrow

    March 17, 2017 at 11:42 pm

    If you were going to make up a cartoon villain, you couldn’t go too wrong making him look just like Stone in that picture. And what’s his wife wearing? A majorette costume? One of them seems really under or over dressed. They don’t look like they coordinated their outfits at all.

  7. 7.

    amk

    March 17, 2017 at 11:44 pm

    lil jeb! – 150 million!!! fucking 150 million!!!

    eta: please clap…

  8. 8.

    Mnemosyne

    March 17, 2017 at 11:45 pm

    Last night at Disneyworld. It’s been fun, but it’s time to go home. My knee held up fairly well — and I rested it whenever I had a chance — but I’m pretty sure I caught my niece’s cold and will probably have no voice at all by tomorrow. Oh well!

  9. 9.

    SarahT

    March 17, 2017 at 11:46 pm

    Add a few Snidely Whiplash mustaches – and access to the man with the codes to the world’s most powerful nuclear arsenal – et voila !

  10. 10.

    Goku

    March 17, 2017 at 11:46 pm

    @dm:

    Trump Cabinet group picture

  11. 11.

    Goku

    March 17, 2017 at 11:48 pm


    Trump Cabinet group picture

  12. 12.

    sukabi

    March 17, 2017 at 11:50 pm

    @NotMax: that’s what she said?

  13. 13.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 17, 2017 at 11:51 pm

    @Yarrow: It is badly done morning dress – which no one wears at inaugurations anymore. It exists for English weddings – see Four Weddings and a Funeral.

    ETA: When you rent it, choose the black not the gray coat. It looks less rented.

  14. 14.

    Yarrow

    March 17, 2017 at 11:52 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Did the weather warm up?

  15. 15.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 17, 2017 at 11:52 pm

    That vampire/werewolf tweet is killing me, lol

  16. 16.

    amk

    March 17, 2017 at 11:54 pm

    woman interrupted. lol.

  17. 17.

    Yarrow

    March 17, 2017 at 11:56 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I know what he’s supposed to be wearing. But what is she wearing? They look really odd together–like they’re just two friends who ran into each other on the mall, not a pain who showed up to an event together.

  18. 18.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 17, 2017 at 11:57 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Won’t stop you from posting!

  19. 19.

    Betty Cracker

    March 17, 2017 at 11:58 pm

    Gotta share something gross because why should I suffer alone? One of my dogs has a terrible case of gas, and at high pressure from the sound of it. Every now and then, there’s a noise like someone letting the air out of a tire, and then a nostril hair-singeing, eye-stinging stench fills the room.I want to kick her out of the house, but that seems mean.

  20. 20.

    Jeffro

    March 18, 2017 at 12:00 am

    @Yarrow: Shouldn’t “wife” be in quotes? Roger is quite the rake.

    I do feel lighter, having read that string of Goth Ms. Frizzle tweets. Might have to consider tweet-punching like that as therapy someday soon!

  21. 21.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 18, 2017 at 12:00 am

    @Yarrow: Female fashion is beyond my ken. I can recognize some shoes, but that’s it.

  22. 22.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 18, 2017 at 12:00 am

    @Betty Cracker: Unless you have a HAZMAT suit, I don’t see an option here. Doggie has to go outside.

  23. 23.

    Goku

    March 18, 2017 at 12:04 am

    @Mnemosyne: I haven’t been to Disney World since I was six. Fond memories, mostly, aside from tossing my chicken finger lunch in a sink during the parade; it was a very hot Florida day, suffice it to say. Last August I visited LA for a week and went to Disneyland for a day. Best ride, bar none was the Hollywood Tower of Terror. The one at Disney World was torn down I believe. Los Angeles was a really cool place and I’d love to live there someday.

    The best day of my vacation was visiting Catalina Island. Took a Hummer ride around the island. Got to glimpse buffalo that had been taken there over a 100 years ago. Avalon is extremely small and extremely beautiful.

    Also, sorry about your knee.

  24. 24.

    ruemara

    March 18, 2017 at 12:06 am

    No, Betty, this is gross. Having your friend clean out your extra deep belly button because you’re too squeamish to do it. Also, our bodies are wondrous & majestic & utterly disgusting. Yuck.

  25. 25.

    Anne Laurie

    March 18, 2017 at 12:08 am

    @Betty Cracker: I googled to see if they still sold activated charcoal biscuits at pet stores, and voila: Now they’re a health fad for people!

  26. 26.

    Yarrow

    March 18, 2017 at 12:08 am

    @Jeffro: I’m not sure “rake” is the correct term either. Isn’t he a known swinger? Ugh. Gross.

    @Omnes Omnibus: He’s in formal wear and she’s in what appears to be leggings and a majorette jacket. It’s an odd combination. Given the rumors about their marriage, perhaps they did just kind of run into each other on the mall.

    @Betty Cracker: Oh, dear. Did your dog eat something unknown while she was outside? Perhaps a little yogurt for the probiotics might help her digestion?

  27. 27.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 12:12 am

    @Jay Noble: Actually testosterone and human growth hormone supplementation. Stone was a notorious bodybuilder when younger and prided himself on his physique and maintaining it as he aged. You can tell the HGH supplementation by looking how his jawline changed as he aged – a classic tell.

  28. 28.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 18, 2017 at 12:15 am

    @Yarrow: I understand and have seen what she was wearing. I am saying that I do not have sufficient knowledge of contemporary female fashion to say whether it was cool or not.

  29. 29.

    Aleta

    March 18, 2017 at 12:15 am

    These two months have turned US news into a reality horror show. And it’s like a spigot that’s always on. Every time I come back in the room it’s still flowing and the tub is always full of hot water.

  30. 30.

    Bumper

    March 18, 2017 at 12:16 am

    @Betty Cracker: That happened in my house last week. Only it wasn’t a dog…it was youngest kid :-/

  31. 31.

    NotMax

    March 18, 2017 at 12:16 am

    @Betty Cracker

    Boxers. It’s their nature.

  32. 32.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 12:18 am

    @Yarrow: They’re better than these pictures:
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×853802

  33. 33.

    Jeffro

    March 18, 2017 at 12:18 am

    @Yarrow: We’re not really splitting hairs over calling Stone a wacko rake/swinger/libertine here, are we? Unfortunately probably all of it applies to ol’ Roger, somehow, dear god. He must have ‘a great personality’…or something…eck…

    I just want the guy in irons – platonically and judicially speaking. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.

  34. 34.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 18, 2017 at 12:18 am

    @Yarrow:
    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Her Inauguration Day outfit was marginally less ridiculous than KellyAnne’s.

  35. 35.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 18, 2017 at 12:21 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: Congressional Army uniform? Dear god.

  36. 36.

    Mike J

    March 18, 2017 at 12:22 am

    Love the pic of Trump from this article with the candles on his head. He looks like he should be wearing a white dress and singing Santa Lucia.

  37. 37.

    Anne Laurie

    March 18, 2017 at 12:23 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: Trump does seem to bring out the ‘high school Gilbert & Sullivan production palace guard costume’ fashion revamps in his female followers, doesn’t he?

  38. 38.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 18, 2017 at 12:24 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: I like to think of it as a Woody Woodpecker cosplay outfit without the head.

    Apparently that outfit was first designed for British Airlines stewardesses.

  39. 39.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 12:24 am

    @Yarrow: According to reporting they’re swingers and have quite the open marriage. Some of the reporting has dug up ads where he’s trying to recruit young black men for her and indicating he likes to watch. Apparently he’s the prototypical cuckservative.

  40. 40.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 12:25 am

    @Goku: They’re turning it into a Guardian of the Galaxies ride.

  41. 41.

    ruemara

    March 18, 2017 at 12:26 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Serious?

  42. 42.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 18, 2017 at 12:26 am

    @Mike J: In the body of that article is a testament to the brilliance of our “free traitor” chief executive who seems to think the Germans hoodwinked the US on bilateral trade agreements that do not exist.

  43. 43.

    Keith P.

    March 18, 2017 at 12:27 am

    Here’s a bio of Roger Stone, for those of you who want to visualize him and his wife high-fiving as they bang some soldier they picked up off Craigslist.

  44. 44.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 12:29 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Actually she mugged the life size Paddington Bear at FAO Schwartz for his outfit.

    Kellyanne Conway stole Paddington Bear's look #Inauguration pic.twitter.com/1LUp3BKUBn

    — Shabooty ? (@SHABOOTY) January 20, 2017

  45. 45.

    Mike J

    March 18, 2017 at 12:31 am

    Some day, some where, I’m going to run into an attorney who is going to have Trump under oath. I just want to convince them that their first and only question to him should be, “Can you recite the Lord’s Prayer forwards?”

  46. 46.

    amk

    March 18, 2017 at 12:31 am

    @Adam L Silverman: ridiculous hat.

  47. 47.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    March 18, 2017 at 12:32 am

    @Betty Cracker: My Nikki was doing that when her back was acting up, I changed the air freshener’s more often.

  48. 48.

    amk

    March 18, 2017 at 12:32 am

    whatev happened to that bullets wearing twitler surrogate of yore?

  49. 49.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    March 18, 2017 at 12:32 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Give her the boot.

  50. 50.

    ruemara

    March 18, 2017 at 12:33 am

    @Keith P.: No thank you. My libido is already scarred.

  51. 51.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 12:34 am

    @ruemara: According to reporting I’ve read. I can’t find the link right now, but I saw someone refer back to one of these ads a couple of weeks ago.

  52. 52.

    NotMax

    March 18, 2017 at 12:35 am

    @Adam L. Silverman

    No ‘t’ in there. FAO Schwarz.

    Store is history now.

  53. 53.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 12:36 am

    @amk: Ridiculous head.

  54. 54.

    Yarrow

    March 18, 2017 at 12:37 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: @Adam L Silverman: Yes, KellyAnne’s was laughable. Wasn’t it from some British designer for the Queen’s jubilee or something? Laughably out of place.

  55. 55.

    Yarrow

    March 18, 2017 at 12:39 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Whatever they want to do in their marriage–or out of it–is just fine, so long as they aren’t hurting people. But he’s just so gross. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to associate with him for any reason whatsoever.

  56. 56.

    JWR

    March 18, 2017 at 12:39 am

    @Yarrow:

    They look really odd together–like they’re just two friends who ran into each other on the mall, not a pain who showed up to an event together.

    Oh, they’re a pain alright. ;-)

  57. 57.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 12:41 am

    @amk: She’s part of the America First PAC independent organization intended to bring outside pressure on behalf of the President’s agenda.

  58. 58.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 12:42 am

    @NotMax: It’s the bespoke typos that keep you all coming back here.

    So she got the outfit on clearance when they were selling off the spare costumes for the life size Paddington Bear.

  59. 59.

    Yarrow

    March 18, 2017 at 12:43 am

    @JWR: LOL. I saw that typo after the editing window closed. Wondered if anyone would see it. Supposed to be “pair” but I kind of liked it as “pain.”

  60. 60.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 12:43 am

    @Yarrow: I’m not judging their relationship. Doesn’t effect me, not my problem. Yes he is a creep.

  61. 61.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 18, 2017 at 12:44 am

    @Yarrow: The man has a tattoo of Richard Milhous Nixon on his back.

    Need I say more?

  62. 62.

    NotMax

    March 18, 2017 at 12:45 am

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Its the bespoke typos

    Did that on purpose, didn’t ya, you rascal you.

    :)

  63. 63.

    ihop

    March 18, 2017 at 12:46 am

    it’s not so much or at all his outfit, i’d like to think my fat-ass self could rock those tails…..

    (well, i did at my prom)

    but for fuck sake, it seems he wants us to fear his fangs…

    or maybe it’s a i-just-pooped-my-pants grimace.

  64. 64.

    NotMax

    March 18, 2017 at 12:51 am

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Good a place as any to throw in a link to the case of the ten million dollar comma.

  65. 65.

    efgoldman

    March 18, 2017 at 12:53 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I do not have sufficient knowledge of contemporary female fashion to say whether it was cool or not.

    She’s a Republiklown and probably a RWNJ, right? Whatever she wears, it can’t be “cool” by definition.
    See also Kelly Anne’s George Washington cosplay at the inaugural ball.

  66. 66.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    March 18, 2017 at 12:53 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: I’m probably going visit ol’ Tricky Dick tomorrow.

  67. 67.

    Yarrow

    March 18, 2017 at 12:53 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Just looking at him makes my skin crawl. I really can’t imagine having anything to do with him whatsoever.

    Adam, when this Russia stuff really starts going down, do you think Stone will roll on the rest of the Trump crew?

    @Villago Delenda Est: I’d heard that. Again…gross.

  68. 68.

    efgoldman

    March 18, 2017 at 12:54 am

    @Aleta:

    it’s still flowing and the tub is always full of hot water.

    More likely pigshit.

  69. 69.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 12:54 am

    @NotMax: But uv coarz!

  70. 70.

    Yarrow

    March 18, 2017 at 12:55 am

    [email protected]Adam L Silverman:

    You can tell the HGH supplementation by looking how his jawline changed as he aged – a classic tell.

    Curious about this–in what way is it evident? What changes with the jawline?

  71. 71.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 12:56 am

    @NotMax: Excellent!

  72. 72.

    efgoldman

    March 18, 2017 at 12:57 am

    @Jeffro:

    I just want the guy in irons

    I’d settle for an orange jumpsuit.

  73. 73.

    Thru the Looking Glass...

    March 18, 2017 at 1:00 am

    @dm:

    Taste set by the Nixon Palace White House Guard uniform designs.

    I remember those… the uniforms looked like they belonged on a Nazi wedding cake…

  74. 74.

    Mike J

    March 18, 2017 at 1:02 am

    Merkel visit? Let’s visit Earth 2:

    How today was supposed to go

  75. 75.

    Thru the Looking Glass...

    March 18, 2017 at 1:02 am

    @Aleta:

    Every time I come back in the room it’s still flowing and the tub is always full of hot water shit.

    There… isn’t what you were really after?

  76. 76.

    NotMax

    March 18, 2017 at 1:04 am

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Not to throw a wet blanket on the proceedings and have no clue how much interaction you may have with Marines, but imagine the upper echelons of the military are getting frantic at how this is expanding.

    At least 20 victims have now come forward to complain that explicit photos of them are being shared online by active duty and retired members of the Marine Corps and others, a leading Navy investigator said Friday.
    [snip]
    … That Facebook page has been taken down, but officials say the photos may have simply migrated to another private site.

    Evans said the investigation has expanded into many more sites online. Officials said that earlier this week at least 17 new sites were being reviewed and that as many as 30,000 images were catalogued on the sites, although many were duplicates. A majority of the photos, officials said, were selfies and did not appear to have been taken surreptitiously, although it’s not clear under what conditions they were shared.
    [snip]
    There have been about 1,200 screen names identified on the Facebook site, and of those, 725 were active duty Marines, 150 were in the Marine Reserves, 15 were in the active duty Navy and the rest were unidentifiable.… Source

  77. 77.

    Anne Laurie

    March 18, 2017 at 1:05 am

    @Adam L Silverman: You know Paddington was an undocumented immigrant from South America, right?

  78. 78.

    tomtofa

    March 18, 2017 at 1:05 am

    Lydia was pissed when she got to the store and found out KelleyAnne had gotten the last really good outfit.

  79. 79.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 1:08 am

    @Yarrow: I don’t know. I have a feeling that one of the reasons he always skates is he goes in early, rats out those he’s working with, and gets an agreement to keep his name out of it. Again, just a feeling. I honestly do not know what is going to happen with the Russia stuff. I think there are multiple plausible tracks.

    Manafort, Stone, Page, Flynn, Cohen, and maybe several others, including the kids, and Cambridge Analytica being tied back to different Russian governmental, intelligence, and organized crime (often those categories have a lot of overlap) is going to be one track.

    The President and his business being tied to Russian and other former Soviet business, government – specifically government run business, and organized crime (again a lot of overlap there) is another. And this one is likely to be that at the time that the business was being conducted the President needed buyers for his properties and funds for his operations. The investors had money. It was green. It wasn’t counterfeit. Therefore they were good to go. This is pretty much how real estate deals in NY get done. And my guess is this is where the kompromat really is. The Russian side knows every jot and tittle of these transactions, which tranches of funds were clean and which got cleaned by doing business with the Trump Organization. And that the President, being an old time NY real estate developer has no idea any of this is problematic – its just how business gets done. And had he stayed a businessman in NY no one would really care, nor would it potentially be an issue of national security.

    The emoluments stuff is another. Including the self enrichment by going to Mar-a-Lago every weekend and keeping the First Lady and his son in NY at least till this Summer (and I suspect they’re actually going to stay in NY if they think they can brazen out the bad publicity). The alleged investigation Bharara was running into Secretary Price’s stock deals just as he was asked to resign and then fired is going to be another.

    How it all comes together, I have no idea. I do know that within 48 hours he pissed off our closest ally and then, after oil was poured on the water, pissed them off again while pissing off Germany. So not only is he now at war with the US IC, but also Britain’s. And the Germans have no reason not to have their IC leak like a seive about the Russia stuff either. This is going to keep getting worse because he is who he is. And the people around him are who they are. And each of them seems to have their own baggage and scandals a brewing too.

  80. 80.

    Mike in DC

    March 18, 2017 at 1:12 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Is it sexist to call this her Propaganda Barbie outfit?

  81. 81.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 1:13 am

    @Yarrow: HGH, aside from helping to promote lean muscle mass and retard the accumulation of body fat, also causes bone growth to restart in adults. If you ever see male or female bodybuilders that look as if their facial structure is too large for even their physiques it is a good bet they’re on HGH. Especially foreheads and chins.

    As is the case with testosterone supplementation, there are legitimate medical reasons to prescribe HGH. But it is something that is used because of its positive effects by some bodybuilders to help them remain lean and promote muscle growth.

  82. 82.

    NotMax

    March 18, 2017 at 1:13 am

    Dreadful. Bad, bad, bad.

    The boat packed with dozens of Somali refugees was more than 30 miles off war-torn Yemen’s coast when a military vessel and a helicopter gunship swooped in, opening fire in the dead of night Friday, killing at least 42 people. The attack, which Yemen’s Shiite rebels blamed on a Saudi-led coalition, highlighted the perils of a heavily used migration route running from the Horn of Africa to the oil-rich Gulf, right through Yemen’s civil war.
    [snip]
    Al-Hassan Ghaleb Mohammed told The Associated Press the boat left from Ras Arra, along the southern coastline in Yemen’s Hodeida province, and was 30 miles (50 kilometres) off the coast, near the Bab al-Mandab strait, when the military vessel open fire, followed by the helicopter gunship.

    He described a scene of panic in which the terrified refugees waved flashlights, apparently to show they were not combatants. He said the helicopter then stopped firing, but only after dozens had been killed. Mohammed was unharmed in the attack.

    Video of the aftermath showed dozens of slain migrants, along with others who suffered gunshot wounds, lost limbs, or had broken arms and legs.
    [snip]
    A top official with the U.N.’s migration agency said 42 bodies were recovered from the attack, which took place around 3 a.m. Friday.… Source

  83. 83.

    NotMax

    March 18, 2017 at 1:19 am

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Speaking (sort of) of espionage, dug out a barely remembered quote from the excellent British mini-series Private Schulz.

    “Patience is everything in espionage. The night you don’t listen in on one of those bedrooms is the very night some copulating clown lets fall some vital information.”

    Even managed to find a clip.

  84. 84.

    Betty Cracker

    March 18, 2017 at 1:20 am

    @Yarrow: I’d rather be trapped in an unventilated room with 1,000 flatulent boxer dogs!

  85. 85.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 1:22 am

    @NotMax: I’m following it. I had the honor and privilege to serve on teams with several Marines while assigned to USAWC and have discussed it with one who I’m still in touch with. Its a mess. The USMC leadership is clearly unhappy with it, embarrassed by it, and trying to figure out how to put a stop to it. This is a toxic problem that has the potential to consume significant parts of the Corps. This is, as Robert Batemen wrote at Esquire a couple of years ago, a real and terrible insider threat. A type of fratricide where Soldier, Sailor, Airman, and/or Marine preys on their fellow Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines.

    There is a larger problem here that the Marines and the other Services can only solve a problem of. While indoctrination and acculturation into the US military is a powerful process, especially for the Marines based on what they do and how they do it, the simple fact of the matter is that Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and/or Marines spend at least their first 18 years immersed not in their Service’s culture and norms, but in American culture and norms. Specifically their regional and religious sub-cultures and norms. This problem isn’t going to be solved by the Services, nor can it be, unless or until the larger American social and religious norms that contribute to it are addressed and resolved. This isn’t happening in a vacuum. It isn’t going to be solved in a vacuum.

  86. 86.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 1:22 am

    @Anne Laurie: I’m aware.

  87. 87.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 1:25 am

    @Mike in DC: I think its insulting to Barbie, but other than that you’re good to go.

  88. 88.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 1:26 am

    @NotMax: Very, very true.

  89. 89.

    efgoldman

    March 18, 2017 at 1:28 am

    @Thru the Looking Glass…:

    the uniforms looked like they belonged on a Nazi wedding cake…

    At the time, the consensus was they came from a bad, really bad production of Student Prince.

  90. 90.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 1:29 am

    And the plot thins some more!

    Just a reminder FoxNews' Judge Andrew Napolitano passed along Russian FSB/ GRU Dezinformatsiya- https://t.co/K5HfI96mpE

    — Howard Roark (@shortwave8669) March 17, 2017

  91. 91.

    Mike J

    March 18, 2017 at 1:31 am

    @Anne Laurie:

    You know Paddington was an undocumented immigrant from South America, right?

    Undocumented? I think not.
    “Please Look After This Bear. Thank You.”

  92. 92.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 18, 2017 at 1:36 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    This problem isn’t going to be solved by the Services, nor can it be, unless or until the larger American social and religious norms that contribute to it are addressed and resolved. This isn’t happening in a vacuum. It isn’t going to be solved in a vacuum.

    “Boys will be boys” is still a very serious problem in this country. There are scandals taking place on nearly a daily basis in high schools all over the country, with how it’s perfectly OK for males to prey on females sexually, particularly if they have enhanced social status, such as star athletes.

  93. 93.

    NotMax

    March 18, 2017 at 1:37 am

    @Adam L. Silverman

    What you allude to goes hand in glove with the Dubya administration’s relaxing of enlistment policy to permit entry to confirmed members of violent gangs in order to grab warm bodies for Iraq and Afghanistan.

    I’m responsible for calling attention to and expressing my anger and disgust about a site stumbled upon completely accidentally to a veteran friend who knew which calls to make, signals to send and authority to marshal to have it very quickly shut down some years ago. Said site granted free passwords to porn for service members in exchange for their sending for posting grisly photos of dead or maimed enemies in both wars. Sick, sick, sick.

  94. 94.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 1:44 am

    @NotMax: The Marines never took advantage of those waivers. They didn’t have to.

    And good on you.

  95. 95.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 1:47 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: Yep.

  96. 96.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 18, 2017 at 1:47 am

    Time for me to rub doggie bellies and rack out. You all have a nice night.

  97. 97.

    TriassicSands

    March 18, 2017 at 1:52 am

    @Bumper:

    Dog? Sympathy and patience.

    Kid? Outside. NOW!

  98. 98.

    TriassicSands

    March 18, 2017 at 1:55 am

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    That might be the biggest margin in history.

  99. 99.

    Suzanne

    March 18, 2017 at 2:21 am

    Ack. Work is kicking my ass. Spawn the Younger is at her first sleepover. I made a bunch of bottles at the ceramic studio tonight. Trying to decide how to do them up.

  100. 100.

    SgrAstar

    March 18, 2017 at 2:41 am

    @Yarrow: KAC’s dress/coat was very expensive Gucci from their latest line. We need no further evidence that money cannot buy taste…or good sense.

  101. 101.

    TheMightyTrowel

    March 18, 2017 at 3:09 am

    ARGH. I just got a crock pot (finally) and put a call out on fb for good recipes. Now I’m being deluged with messages from one friend’s husband (who I honestly don’t like very much, but unfortunately he’s a near colleague of mine so I have to be civil) telling me I’m crazy for looking for recipes, that i should just throw stuff together and if it’s inedible go to the pub, that if i worry about wasting this inedible food I should just feed it to my cats. OMG i want to reach thru the internet to Sweden and smack him. GRRRR

  102. 102.

    ThresherK

    March 18, 2017 at 4:15 am

    @NotMax: You and Mnemosyne were two of the first commenters on a post featuring a nod to old-school filmmaking, this time German Expressionism.

    It’s almost uncanny how that happens.

    I’m trying to work up a good metaphor, comparing the current regime and, Fritz Lang’s Dr. Mabuse.

  103. 103.

    Anne Laurie

    March 18, 2017 at 4:28 am

    @TheMightyTrowel: Believe it or not, the ‘Crock Pot Craziness’ category here got started when Cole got his first crock pot. If you can filter the search for oldest-entries-first, I seem to recall some very useful recipes & tips…

  104. 104.

    SWMBO

    March 18, 2017 at 4:37 am

    @TheMightyTrowel: http://www.allrecipes.com. They have recipes and videos in numerous categories. You can sort by slow cooker, diabetes, desserts, and other categories to get what you want/need.

  105. 105.

    Fred

    March 18, 2017 at 8:11 am

    With Kelly Ann’s costume and these two it feels like high school proms back in the 60s 70s when the hippy crowd(me and my friends) would troll the event wearing some mockery of formal wear just for laughs. I think the Trump gang is one big troll. Lie and do everything in the most outrageous way and nobody will be able to figure out when you stole the silverware. They hope. I don’t believe they are half as cleaver as they seem to think.
    As for the getup I’m thinking “Around the World in Eighty Days”.

  106. 106.

    Grung_e_Gene

    March 18, 2017 at 8:14 am

    @Adam L Silverman: They did just not to the extent of the Army.

  107. 107.

    Just One More Canuck

    March 18, 2017 at 8:40 am

    “and I would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for those meddling kids”

  108. 108.

    Yarrow

    March 18, 2017 at 8:46 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Apologies for not responding last night. I fell asleep! Thanks for your take on this. My general understanding and best guesses are similar. At some point Congress is going to decide he’s not worth the risk. I don’t think that time is that far away.

    @Adam L Silverman: Thanks for the info. I didn’t know any of that except I knew that HGH was used by bodybuilders. I guess that partly explains why Stone looks so odd these days. Along with one of the worst hairpieces I can recall seeing.

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