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You are here: Home / Politics / Politicans / NANCY SMASH! / Friday Evening Open Thread: Repubs Be LOOOOSERRRSSSS!

Friday Evening Open Thread: Repubs Be LOOOOSERRRSSSS!

by Anne Laurie|  March 24, 20176:00 pm| 122 Comments

This post is in: NANCY SMASH!, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Republicans in Disarray!, Yes We Did, All we want is life beyond the thunderdome, Fuck Yeah!

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What if, perhaps, Obamacare is actually good and the GOP lit its hair on fire just to frighten the American people & score political points?

— John Dingell (@JohnDingell) March 24, 2017

BREAKING: Stocks sharply rebound after news that House pulled GOP health plan https://t.co/TU32GDDTDF pic.twitter.com/F9bJniW536

— CNBC (@CNBC) March 24, 2017

Yes, it’s only one battle, the GOP will never give up, think of the Media Village Idiots whose cocktail-party weekend has just been ruint, yadayadayada. As a devout Cynic, I’ve always felt that one of our Democrats’ greatest weaknesses is that we can never stop looking for the defeat lurking behind every victory. Tomorrow, we gird for the next fight — tonight, we celebrate!

Apart from cheering our warriors, what’s on the agenda as we start our well-earned weekend?

John Lewis went off. #KillTheBillpic.twitter.com/co9eh4wjwi

— Erick Fernandez (@ErickFernandez) March 24, 2017

Trump tells the New York Times that the AHCA bill failure is the Democrats' fault https://t.co/ptisvmhrG8

— The Boston Globe (@BostonGlobe) March 24, 2017

Rep. Tom Rooney (R-Fla), asked what this failure meant:

"Obamacare is the law of the land."

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) March 24, 2017

Essential piece of today’s GOP disaster is Dem resolve & unity in never once showing any inclination to help out the GOP.

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) March 24, 2017

Held her caucuses together to save Social Security, to pass ACA, & to save ACA.

She’s one of the most underrated pols of the last 50 yrs

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) March 24, 2017

If there's four years of dealmaking like this, Pelosi's going to wind up owning Mar-a-Lago.

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) March 24, 2017

Really interesting that White House has made it seem like Obamacare is unsustainable ready to collapse and now they're like we're moving on

— Adrian Carrasquillo (@Carrasquillo) March 24, 2017

Two months from now Trump will be denying he ever wanted Obamacare repealed

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) March 24, 2017

GOP aide on CapHill: "I'm starting to think that while we're pretty good at winning elections, we're not great at the whole governing thing"

— Alex Roarty (@Alex_Roarty) March 24, 2017

"It's going to pass, so that’s it," Spicer says, again stressing that there is no Plan B and no contingency.

— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) March 23, 2017

“This parachute is going to open, & that’s it.”
“Uh, there’s no pull cord. In fact, that’s a toddler’s Hello Kitty backpack”
“It will open” https://t.co/sdJ7TKWjHN

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) March 23, 2017

President Trump says he'd be "open" to bargaining with Democrats on a health care bill. https://t.co/sH3F7LxTrW

— The Associated Press (@AP) March 24, 2017

(And I am “open” to being handed a large bag of money, no strings attached. LOSER!)

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  1. 1.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 24, 2017 at 6:04 pm

    Reposted from previous thread
    Victory Dance!

  2. 2.

    DCrefugee

    March 24, 2017 at 6:04 pm

    This is sooo sweet…

    Maybe, after all, that light at the end of the tunnel isn’t a work crew building more tunnel…

  3. 3.

    debit

    March 24, 2017 at 6:05 pm

    I hope Ryan’s defeat tastes like a steaming pile of shit in his mouth.

  4. 4.

    lamh36

    March 24, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    @mikedebonis
    Guys who wrote this bill are in shock. A couple darn near tears. They know how bad this is.

    @DennisPerkins5
    @mikedebonis Imagine being moved to tears that your attempt to kill poor people slowly didn’t work out. That’s some evil.

  5. 5.

    Thru the Looking Glass...

    March 24, 2017 at 6:08 pm

    What if, perhaps, Obamacare is actually good and the GOP lit its hair on fire just to frighten the American people & score political points?

    Gee… ya think?

    Now excuse me while I go laugh at the GOP…

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…

  6. 6.

    lamh36

    March 24, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Remember when some Dems were trying to get rid of Pelosi as minority leader…cause she was “too liberal” for the new electorate…

  7. 7.

    maryQ

    March 24, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Mammograms for the house!

  8. 8.

    Jeffro

    March 24, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    All that hard work, GOP, all of it…right down the fucking drain. And now you’re just going to have to somehow live with the fact that your fellow citizens might live healthier, fulfilling lives. I hope it frosts your balls right the fuck off.

  9. 9.

    SatanicPanic

    March 24, 2017 at 6:10 pm

    Yeah right, president, Democrats are going to jump at the chance to work with you. Keep dreaming dumbass.

  10. 10.

    Zinsky

    March 24, 2017 at 6:10 pm

    Are we great again yet??

  11. 11.

    mai naem mobile

    March 24, 2017 at 6:10 pm

    Losingest winners or winningest losers? Who cares? Not SAD!

  12. 12.

    lamh36

    March 24, 2017 at 6:12 pm

    Anyone dare to brave Fox News and see how they spinning it…my guess…

    Dems did it..

  13. 13.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 24, 2017 at 6:12 pm

    Any bargaining with Democrats would involve fixing (and not destroying) the ACA so I have no problem with Trump working with our side on that. He’s a real idiot if he thinks that Pelosi would help him destroy one of our Party’s signature laws.

  14. 14.

    Tilda Swintons Bald Cap

    March 24, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    @lamh36: Yeah but now I have it on good authority that’s she’s an evil old neoliberal.

  15. 15.

    lamh36

    March 24, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    @JohnDingell

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    I can’t believe golfing every weekend & holding goofy campaign rallies in blue districts didn’t lock this terrible repeal vote up for Trump.

  16. 16.

    Taylor

    March 24, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    Held her caucuses together to save Social Security, to pass ACA, & to save ACA.
    She’s one of the most underrated pols of the last 50 yrs.

    She is one of the greatest pols of the last 50 years.

    I remember when Congressional Dems (like Barney fucking Frank) couldn’t get to a mike fast enough to declare ACA dead. She held them together, while Obama told Rahm to STFU.

  17. 17.

    mai naem mobile

    March 24, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    Also, I cannot wait for Herr Losingesht Loser’s Twitter Meltdown tonight. I can’t believe SNL is not new this weekend.

  18. 18.

    RoonieRoo

    March 24, 2017 at 6:14 pm

    I am so freaking proud of the Democratic caucus.

  19. 19.

    lamh36

    March 24, 2017 at 6:15 pm

    Baby Paul and Cheeto, had such contempt for PBO, that they let themselves believe that what PBO accomplished was easy to do…

    https://media.giphy.com/media/SH5dYg10Gpjvq/giphy.gif

  20. 20.

    Frank Wilhoit

    March 24, 2017 at 6:15 pm

    Takeaways:
    1) 2016 was the Boomers’ last election. Bannon has decided to throw the Boomers under the bus. Boomer though he be, he thinks the skinheads are the future of the Party, whereas the Boomers are not the future of anything. All future legislative proposals emanating from the White House will be generationally skewed against the Olds.
    2) The Coercion Caucus are a third party, tho’ still dishonestly using the name of the Party they split from, like paramilitaries wearing false insignia. They will run their own slate in 2018 and they will reduce the Regular Republican delegation in the House to a rump.

  21. 21.

    SuzieC

    March 24, 2017 at 6:15 pm

    So we keep Obamacare–I predict it will be transformed into TrumpCare. Isn’t that what Pres.Obama tried to persuade Trump to do in their Oval Office transition meetings?

  22. 22.

    Thru the Looking Glass...

    March 24, 2017 at 6:15 pm

    GOP aide on CapHill: “I’m starting to think that while we’re pretty good at winning elections, we’re not great at the whole governing thing”

    I remember reading a quote years ago about Mao… something to the effect that he was a genius at guerrilla warfare and a disaster at peacetime administration… that always comes to mind when I see what Republicans have done next…

  23. 23.

    Grumpy Code Monkey

    March 24, 2017 at 6:15 pm

    Gonna be a long four years.

  24. 24.

    Miss Bianca

    March 24, 2017 at 6:16 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: seriously, that is on.e bitchin’ victory dance…

  25. 25.

    RoonieRoo

    March 24, 2017 at 6:16 pm

    I am also looking forward to the twitter meltdown. I wonder if someone in the WH is trying to flush his phone right now.

  26. 26.

    Shell

    March 24, 2017 at 6:16 pm

    All that hard work, GOP, all of it…right down the fucking drain

    Not to mention, all that taxpayers money.

  27. 27.

    Anne Laurie

    March 24, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    @lamh36:

    Remember when some Dems were trying to get rid of Pelosi as minority leader…cause she was “too liberal” for the new electorate…

    What I remember them saying is that “somebody needed to be punished” after the midterm losses – and who better than the woman? Also, “we” needed “fresh blood” and she was “too old”, which (everybody knows) is the WORST thing for a woman leader to be, apart from that not-having-a-penis thing.

    Nope, fellow Scorpio — I’m not forgetting that, not now not never. Our motto: Forgive, maybe. Forget, NEVER!

  28. 28.

    Thru the Looking Glass...

    March 24, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    He’s a real idiot if he thinks that Pelosi would help him destroy one of our Party’s signature laws.

    I see no need for the rest of that sentence at all…

  29. 29.

    Iowa Old Lady

    March 24, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    I am drinking wine and toasting the win. Tonight, life is good.

  30. 30.

    lamh36

    March 24, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    @skenigsberg
    Leader Nancy Pelosi @NancyPelosi just took off her heels and did a victory jump outside the U.S. Capitol @MoveOn

  31. 31.

    Capt. Seaweed

    March 24, 2017 at 6:19 pm

    I can keep my health insurance and Medicaid. I won’t have to go die in a ditch. Yet.

  32. 32.

    hovercraft

    March 24, 2017 at 6:19 pm

    @debit:
    Bannon and his friends at Brietbart are trying to make sure it not only tastes like shit, but that is costs him his job, he failed the dear leader. Twitler may have been ‘magnanimous’ but he will be avenged!

  33. 33.

    efgoldman

    March 24, 2017 at 6:20 pm

    The real political and procedural winner today was Yertle McTurtle.
    He REALLY didn’t want to have to choose between trying to wrangle 51 (or maybe 60) votes for this pile of pig shit, or letting the Dems filibuster it to death.
    Of course, he’d never say that out loud.

  34. 34.

    lollipopguild

    March 24, 2017 at 6:21 pm

    @lamh36: Imagine being so stupid/evil that you thought that this flaming pile of manure was actually something good!

  35. 35.

    Baud

    March 24, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    Good work, everyone.

  36. 36.

    hovercraft

    March 24, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    @Anne Laurie:
    Not just Nancy, remember Harry Reid was too conservative and we needed to bring in the next generation of leaders. The two of them with Obama gave us more of the democratic wish list than we had seen in decades.

    ETA: Oh and we were supposed to be primarying Obama too.

  37. 37.

    Frankensteinbeck

    March 24, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    I don’t experience Schadenfreude often. I believe it is an immoral emotion, a complicated word for cruelty. I am feeling fucking tons of it looking at that photo of Paul Ryan, and I can’t make myself feel guilty.

  38. 38.

    lamh36

    March 24, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    @marcushjohnson
    As an aside…what does the rising popularity of Obamacare now that the Black guy isn’t around anymore, tell you about America?

  39. 39.

    NotMax

    March 24, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    For Republicans of today, a picture is indeed worth a thousand words.

  40. 40.

    Iowa Old Lady

    March 24, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    OT but I heard to day that unemployment in Iowa is now 3.2%.

  41. 41.

    Frankensteinbeck

    March 24, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    @lamh36:
    Nothing I hadn’t already figured out, and unfortunately, I don’t think many people who haven’t realized race is the #1, overwhelmingly dominant issue in American politics yet are likely to any time soon.

  42. 42.

    NorthLeft12

    March 24, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    @Jeffro: “Hard work down the drain”?

    WTF are you talking about? That is precisely the problem with the repubs. They don’t do hard work, they don’t believe that governing is hard work and takes effort and compromise. They don’t even trust their own members to fall in line when the chips are down. The leadership is as cowardly as the rabble in the House.
    I would bet a lot of money that if they would have gone on with the vote, those simpering blowhards in the Freedom scrum would have folded like a four dollar lawn chair and voted 100% for this awful bill. Ryan and the fools in repub house did not have the balls to call them on it. Never have. Never will.

  43. 43.

    randy khan

    March 24, 2017 at 6:28 pm

    I wanted to mention that my Facebook feed is filled with happy people right now. It’s very invigorating.

    And I’ve noticed that my pet Trumpian trolls have been very quiet lately. I almost miss them.

  44. 44.

    lollipopguild

    March 24, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    @NotMax: But, but, but the black guy left a YUGE mess for chetolini to clean up!

  45. 45.

    Hal

    March 24, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    Is there a concise, one stop resource about the ACA that one could read to fully understand how the law works? I’ve been reading bits here and there and some health care blogs, but I have this desire to really understand how Obamacare works, now that it’s not going anywhere. At least anytime soon.

    Though now that I think of it, I could start with Richard’s posts right here on this little blog.

    How about a PDF of all those posts for people to access?

  46. 46.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 24, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    @hovercraft: Now they come in the comments to preach doom and gloom even when we have a good day, like today. They are our version of the Tea Party caucus.

  47. 47.

    Baud

    March 24, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: Economically anxious, indeed.

  48. 48.

    Frankensteinbeck

    March 24, 2017 at 6:30 pm

    @NorthLeft12:

    those simpering blowhards in the Freedom scrum would have folded like a four dollar lawn chair and voted 100% for this awful bill.

    While I see where you’re coming from, I disagree. The Freedom Caucus shafted Boehner again and again, particularly when he offered budgets. Any time anything but a symbolic vote came up, he would make a deal with the White House and Senate, and the Freedom Caucus would give him the finger and vote it down. They will not vote for anything that is not full-on sadistic, extremist racist asshole.

  49. 49.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    March 24, 2017 at 6:32 pm

    @Frank Wilhoit:

    2016 was the Boomers’ last election.

    Really? Where’s GoBlow72 with my fucking ice floe tickets,

  50. 50.

    NotMax

    March 24, 2017 at 6:32 pm

    @NorthLeft12

    (Only because it’s so passing rare to have an opportunity to dust off the word.)

    Floccinaucinihilipilification is their touchstone.

  51. 51.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 24, 2017 at 6:33 pm

    Saw something crazy today in Denver: a dirty Subaru wagon in a Whole Foods parking lot with a Wilmer sticker on it!

    Now back to the gloating.

  52. 52.

    sukabi

    March 24, 2017 at 6:33 pm

    @lamh36: well, Baier says the big winner is Obama. Lol

  53. 53.

    Yarrow

    March 24, 2017 at 6:33 pm

    Held her caucuses together to save Social Security, to pass ACA, & to save ACA.
    She’s one of the most underrated pols of the last 50 yrs.

    NANCY SMASH! I hope she gets that giant gavel back again. She’s awesome.

  54. 54.

    lollipopguild

    March 24, 2017 at 6:33 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck: Not voting on stuff allows them to stay pure. it also means they have a very small record of votes in case someone wants to run against them. The fewer things you have to actually vote on the more you can lie/bullshit the voters.

  55. 55.

    Timurid

    March 24, 2017 at 6:35 pm

    Good Gawd Almighty! That’s Paul Ryan’s music!

  56. 56.

    Immanentize

    March 24, 2017 at 6:35 pm

    OK. You (social)media savvy folks. How do I start a trend of having people (maybe in pink hats?!) on twitter or Book of Faces post selfies with the L (loser) sign on their foreheads on Trump’s and every trumpistas feed?

  57. 57.

    Elizabelle

    March 24, 2017 at 6:35 pm

    Meanwhile, update on the story of Trump-voting Helen the Greek from near South Bend, Indiana: her illegally present husband has agreed to be deported any day now, and she herself used to be an illegal immigrant. Twice. She overstayed a visa as a child, and snuck back into the country through Canada as a young adult. You cannot make this stuff up.

    Wife of Granger restaurant owner facing deportation says she regrets voting for Trump

    The owner of a popular Granger restaurant, Roberto Beristain, has signed papers agreeing to be deported, possibly any day now.

    His wife, Helen Beristain, said that Roberto told her in a brief call Thursday from an Illinois detention facility that he figures: “I’m going to do this the right way.”

    Their story has drawn national attention — and threats and calls to Eddie’s Steak Shed — particularly since Helen has said she voted for President Donald Trump. Now, she says she regrets that vote.

    “I wish I didn’t vote at all,” Helen Berestain said Friday. “I did it for the economy. We needed a change.”

    She recalls that Roberto had complained, “He’s going to get rid of the Mexicans.”

    But she countered with Trump’s words, that he would deport only the “bad hombres.”

    The Beristains, she said, were all for deporting illegal immigrants who were criminals, bringing drugs or abusing the system, “but not to get rid of all the people. This is not what America is, the land of the free.”

    “It’s regular people,” she said of who’s being deported. “It doesn’t mean they are bad. They need to draw a line.”

    She also revealed that she, like her husband, had once been an illegal immigrant, though now she is a U.S. citizen. She is originally from Greece.

    …. By cooperating with ICE, Helen said, Roberto hopes to improve his chances of gaining legal status in the U.S. Helen said that the Mexican consulate has told her that, under current laws, Roberto would have to wait 10 years in Mexico before trying to reenter the U.S. She’s heard — and hopes — that there are ways that they could rectify his case sooner than that, thanks to his clean criminal record.

    Helen said they’ve been through 10 attorneys in the past 18 years. They’ve often been told they’d have to wait for immigration laws to change. [And then Helen got into that voting booth and helped the situation along.]

    …. For her part, Helen says she has gone through the legal immigration process, though in a different way.

    She said she flew from her home in Greece to Chicago legally when she was 10, coming with an aunt to visit Helen’s sister. She decided to stay after her visa expired, not fully understanding immigration laws, and went to school in Chicago.

    Twelve years later, she flew back to Greece because her dad was fighting cancer. And four months after that, she realized that she couldn’t return to the U.S. because she’d become an illegal immigrant. [Helen, you will have noticed, is a little slow on the uptake.]

    So, she said, she flew to Canada and crossed the U.S. border with the driver’s license that she’d obtained when she was 16. She said she also had a Social Security card that was marked “not valid for employment.” It was 1991.

    Then in 1993, she made an appointment with the U.S. Embassy in Greece, where she came back to Athens, went through some paperwork and gained a legal visa to enter the U.S. In 2002, she said. She gained citizenship.

    I am wondering if Helen was able to take advantage of Reagan’s amnesty program, which continued well into the Clinton administration, and maybe a little longer. She was allowed back in 1993, whereas Roberto is looking at a ten-year bar to entry.

    Also, you will recall President of Details Trump suggesting intending immigrants, now here illegally, should go back to their home countries and apply. Yeah, with that ten-year bar to re-entry in place.

    Le sigh.

  58. 58.

    hilts

    March 24, 2017 at 6:36 pm

    A wonderful start to the weekend: Donald J. Trumpenstein is a fucking loser!.

    I guess he’ll spend the weekend playing with Tonka trucks to cheer himself up.

  59. 59.

    Immanentize

    March 24, 2017 at 6:36 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Crack the Sky!

  60. 60.

    debbie

    March 24, 2017 at 6:36 pm

    Listening to Trump’s comments after the bill was pulled, he was practically hoping people — even the people who voted for him — would suffer. What a psycho.

  61. 61.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 24, 2017 at 6:36 pm

    @lamh36: Probably the same who claimed that President Obama was too much of a Corporatist Moderate.

  62. 62.

    p.a.

    March 24, 2017 at 6:37 pm

    President Trump says he’d be “open” to bargaining with Democrats on a health care bill.

    Our offer to you is… nothing.

    Quick, someone get Joe Lieberman’s take on this… NOT

  63. 63.

    Eric S.

    March 24, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    It reached into the mid 70s in Chicago thus afternoon. Sol decided to make or victory that much more pleasant here!

  64. 64.

    Immanentize

    March 24, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: that describes Vermont perfectly.

  65. 65.

    Shana

    March 24, 2017 at 6:39 pm

    @RoonieRoo: Yeah, and it’s rapidly approaching Shabbat so Ivanka and Jared won’t be available to talk him down.

  66. 66.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 24, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    @Immanentize: I’ve had similar sightings recently in Seattle and Portland. It seems to be a common stereotype across the country, but with higher concentrations in certain areas. Sort of like the Prius-with-an-Obama-sticker archetype from a few years ago.

  67. 67.

    Ksmiami

    March 24, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    FUCK THE GOP – All of them Katie… Keep kicking them until they no longer rise. I’m not a violent or mean person, but the GOP is actively opposed to good governance and therefore a treasonous pile of dog crap.

  68. 68.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    March 24, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    @Hal:

    Just go to one of his recent posts, click the tag “Mayhew on insurance,” and that will bring them all up.

  69. 69.

    Barbara

    March 24, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    I haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere, but has anybody given any thought to whether the “holdout” states on Medicaid expansion will now give up the ghost and stop bankrupting themselves in the hope that the ACA will be repealed “soon”? The statement from that Florida rep, that Obama is now the law of the land made me wonder about it — because Florida is the biggest holdout, with Texas, Georgia, North Carolina and Virginia in tow. It would make ACA even more secure if the bigger states bought in.

  70. 70.

    efgoldman

    March 24, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    I am feeling fucking tons of it looking at that photo of Paul Ryan, and I can’t make myself feel guilty.

    Watching CBS News, I have been grinning like a loon since 630.

  71. 71.

    rikyrah

    March 24, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    @efgoldman:
    Do we even have a statement from the Turtle?

  72. 72.

    Millard Filmore

    March 24, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    @Grumpy Code Monkey:

    Gonna be a long four years.

    May the Intelligence Community bless us by shortening the time we spend with Rs in charge.

  73. 73.

    Jeffro

    March 24, 2017 at 6:48 pm

    @debbie: He’s incapable of thinking about how something – anything – affects anyone but him. So, bill goes down in flames, embarrasses him? He hopes his team suffers humiliating defeats in 2018 (with zero thought about what that would do to him/his ‘agenda’, assuming he’s even in office then)

  74. 74.

    Baud

    March 24, 2017 at 6:48 pm

    @Barbara: Yep. Get in before they try again.

  75. 75.

    NotMax

    March 24, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    @Shana

    Question is who is their designated shabbos goy shaitan?

  76. 76.

    efgoldman

    March 24, 2017 at 6:50 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Where’s GoBlow72 with my fucking ice floe tickets,

    Doing the East Coast first.
    Wait, I hear the doorbell….

  77. 77.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 24, 2017 at 6:50 pm

    hee hee

    Michelle Malkin‏Verified account
    @ michellemalkin
    #RepealAndReplacePaulRyan

  78. 78.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 24, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    I don’t doubt this is true, cause health care was just an excuse to spew hate at Obama, but that last one…

    Josh Dawsey‏Verified account
    @ jdawsey1
    White House officials, advisers say Trump is not that upset. He was far angrier about travel ban, Sessions recusal, inauguration crowd size.

  79. 79.

    NotMax

    March 24, 2017 at 6:54 pm

    @efgoldman

    Word on the street is that tickets for the chaste ice floe are plentiful and dirt cheap.

    ;)

  80. 80.

    efgoldman

    March 24, 2017 at 6:54 pm

    @rikyrah:

    Do we even have a statement from the Turtle?

    He’s probably home, enjoying a quiet bourbon, not answering the phone. He won’t say anything out loud, except maybe anodyne disappointment, with his fingers crossed behind his back.

  81. 81.

    efgoldman

    March 24, 2017 at 6:56 pm

    @NotMax:

    tickets for the chaste ice floe are plentiful and dirt cheap.

    At my age, i don’t need “chaste” anything.

  82. 82.

    Steve in the ATL

    March 24, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    Hey Republicans, don’t worry, that burn is covered under the Affordable Care Act

    — Senator Bob Menendez (@SenatorMenendez) March 24, 2017

    Zing!

  83. 83.

    Shana

    March 24, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    @Barbara: I can only speak to Virginia: We’ve got a lot of safe R State House delegates (all of whom are up for reelection this year) who currently control the House of Delegates by a fair margin. The state senate is pretty evenly divided with one seat more in the State Senate on the R side. We currently have the Gov., Lt. Gov., and AG and can’t have our D Gov run for reelection. The momentum is certainly on our side this year, and VA traditionally elects a Gov from the opposite party of the Pres. although last time was the exception. The problem is, and has been, that the Rs in the House of Delegates have enough nutjobs that they’re impervious to reality. They know the state is screwed without Medicade expansion but don’t care.

    We’ll see if that changes this year.

  84. 84.

    Elizabelle

    March 24, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    And the New York Daily News is shrill. This is a free read, not that long, and quite good. You will not see such straightforward language in our nation’s paper of record, the Fuck the Fucking New York Times. Unless it’s a Paul Krugman column.

    How Trump botched health reform: Blame ideological incoherence, threats, inattention to detail — and, not least, a bad bill

    Its very last line:

    It was a nail in the coffin of a corpse that has no business coming back from the dead.

    Please, let it stay dead. Let the Republicans waste their “credibility” on something else.

  85. 85.

    Shana

    March 24, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    @NotMax: Bannon? Preibus? I got nothing.

  86. 86.

    NotMax

    March 24, 2017 at 7:01 pm

    If he were a car, Rep. Nunes’ transmission would be bits and pieces scattered on the asphalt from slamming into reverse while barreling ahead at 70.

  87. 87.

    Aleta

    March 24, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    @lamh36: They’re crying because of how many people are organized now to vote them out of office.

  88. 88.

    bemused

    March 24, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    Ryan said doing big things is hard. Of course it’s hard when the bill is a mountain of crap.

  89. 89.

    NotMax

    March 24, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    Inspires confidence, don’t it? (Not.)

    The president spoke in less detailed terms when asked about Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    “Don’t know him, but certainly he is a tough cookie and I don’t know how he’s doing for Russia. We’re gonna find out one day I guess,” Trump said. a href=”http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/324663-trump-elizabeth-warren-running-against-me-would-be-a-dream”>Source

  90. 90.

    NotMax

    March 24, 2017 at 7:08 pm

    Oopsie. Bad linky.

    Fix.

  91. 91.

    lamh36

    March 24, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    Welp…this series of tweets from Harry Reid’s Senior Advisor…

    @AJentleson
    A word about Paul Ryan based on past experience: when you clear away all the fluff, he’s really only demonstrated talent for 2 things… 1/

    @AJentleson 7h7 hours ago
    More
    1) Slickly rebranding GOP policies that help the rich & hurt working people

    2) Ingratiating himself with powerful & influential people

    2/

    Because #2 includes the press, his credentials for Speaker were widely accepted as a given. Few asked whether he really had the skills. 3/

    That’s a generalization – in private, many reporters questioned whether Ryan was up to the job. But there was little public questioning. 4/

    Read the entire thread…cause…well damn…

  92. 92.

    TenguPhule

    March 24, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    @NotMax: If Nunes were a car he’d be a 1970 Ford Pinto.

  93. 93.

    hedgehog the occasional commenter

    March 24, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Love it!

  94. 94.

    JMG

    March 24, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    To everyone on this board: You all called. You all donated. Many of you went to meetings and raised hell. Take a bow, take a drink, take whatever makes you happy. You did this.

  95. 95.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    March 24, 2017 at 7:19 pm

    Joy-Ann Reid is killing it on Tweety’s show right now. She’s on such a roll that he has even shut up and is not constantly interrupting.

  96. 96.

    gwangung

    March 24, 2017 at 7:24 pm

    Pelosi’s internal skills are vastly underrated. In fact, a lot of the more progressive folks still dismiss them, I think.

    That’s unfortunate, because a) you need a mix of skills in s party, and b) her skills are EXACTLY what you need when you need to enact sweeping change.

    Like, say, the ACA….

    (Of all the old guard who I think should be replaced, she’s on the very last row of the very last page)

  97. 97.

    hilts

    March 24, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    @Steeplejack (tablet):

    Whoa! Stop the presses. Chris Matthews is keeping his fucking mouth shut. It’s a goddamn miracle.

  98. 98.

    D58826

    March 24, 2017 at 7:28 pm

    @Steeplejack (tablet): I was going to comment on Tweety’s show as well. They have a GOP flack, John Feehey, as the other guest. He agrees that there is no sense in bringing up the bill again since they didn’t have the votes. He also felt that it was important that the democrats work with the GOP to put a bipartisan bill on the president’s desk. The D’s have to do this for the good of the country. Tweety then nailed him on 8 years of GOP opposition to anything and everything that Obama did. His response was ‘that was different’ because the GOP had a principled opposition to all of the awful things that Obama was proposing. Even Tweety did not buy it.

  99. 99.

    Keith P.

    March 24, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    CNN reporting that Trump is pissed at Kushner for being on a skiing trip while all this went down. LOL

  100. 100.

    Elizabelle

    March 24, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    @lamh36: Paul Krugman took a sledgehammer to Paul Ryan’s reputation today — as he has before — but he called out the media too for false symmetry. Ryan would not be known as a “wonk”, when he’s not, if the media had not constructed him. They had to. Ryan’s from a party bankrupt of ideas, and media demands symmetry.

    … At the same time, however, we should be asking ourselves how the people running our government came to wield such power. How, in particular, did a man whose fraudulence, lack of concern for those he claims to care about and lack of policy coherence should have been obvious to everyone nonetheless manage to win over so many gullible souls?

    No, this isn’t a column about whatshisname, the guy on Twitter, who’s getting plenty of attention. It’s about Paul Ryan, the speaker of the House.

    I’m writing this column without knowing the legislative fate of the American Health Care Act, Mr. Ryan’s proposed Obamacare replacement. Whatever happens in the House and the Senate, however, there’s no question that the A.H.C.A. is one of the worst bills ever presented to Congress.

    …. So how did Mr. Ryan reach a position where his actions may reshape the lives of so many of his fellow citizens, in most cases very much for the worse? The answer lies in the impenetrable gullibility of his base. No, not his constituents: the news media, who made him what he is.

    You see, until very recently both news coverage and political punditry were dominated by the convention of “balance.” This meant, in particular, that when it came to policy debates one was always supposed to present both sides as having equally well-founded arguments. And this in turn meant that it was necessary to point to serious, honest, knowledgeable proponents of conservative positions.

    Enter Mr. Ryan, who isn’t actually a serious, honest policy expert, but plays one on TV. He rolls up his sleeves! He uses PowerPoint! He must be the real deal! So that became the media’s narrative. And media adulation, more than anything else, propelled him to his current position.

    … There’s an important lesson here, and it’s not just about health care or Mr. Ryan; it’s about the destructive effects of false symmetry in reporting at a time of vast asymmetry in reality.

    This false symmetry — downplaying the awfulness of some candidates, vastly exaggerating the flaws of their opponents — isn’t the only reason America is in the mess it’s in. But it’s an important part of the story. And now we’re all about to pay the price.

    The Scammers, the Scammed and America’s Fate

  101. 101.

    hilts

    March 24, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    @Grumpy Code Monkey:

    Gonna be a long four years.

    Maybe the Dems can regain the Senate in the midterms and possibly by that time there’ll be enough evidence to warrant an impeachment and conviction of this fucking pathetic excuse for a President of the United States.

  102. 102.

    Debbie1

    March 24, 2017 at 7:31 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: I would sooner have Ben Carson perform brain surgery on me than have Republicans “fix” the ACA. Holy molley, TR*mp just learned Lincoln was a republican and that healthcare policy is hard and people want HIM tinkering w/ the law?

  103. 103.

    Aleta

    March 24, 2017 at 7:31 pm

    Soon a news story will explain that Ivanka and Jared used their compassionate influence to halt the bill, because protecting the health of women in dangerous footwear is one of their causes.

  104. 104.

    D58826

    March 24, 2017 at 7:32 pm

    Howard Fineman on Tweety’s show is saying, correctly, that the D’s have only won a small temporary victory because HHS Sec. Price will use his power to destroy Obamacare from within. If and when it does collapse the GOP will say ‘see we told you so’ and they will not have their fingerprints on the knife. Most folks don’t follow the kind of backroom tactics that HHS can engage in.

  105. 105.

    hilts

    March 24, 2017 at 7:33 pm

    @Keith P.:

    Trump has redefined the term clueless sack of shit. He truly has no fucking idea what’s he ‘s doing.

  106. 106.

    D58826

    March 24, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    @hilts: Won’t help. We get Pence and he is just as hard right but more competent in terms of things done in DC.

  107. 107.

    Elizabelle

    March 24, 2017 at 7:36 pm

    @D58826: That’s ridiculous. Of course, it’s the GOP guest saying it.

    I am proud, proud of the Democrats standing together and not lifting a finger to try to sabotage Obamacare, under the guise of “saving it.” Sick of the rightwing talking about how it is going to implode/explode, take your pick.

    This was a good, if nailbiting, experience. Democrats in Congress stood together against a common enemy — and enemy is not too strong a word for what the GOP was trying to dish out.

    Plus, citizens are getting increasingly comfortable at turning out and protesting in the streets and directly to their representatives. That skill is going to be reinforced; will be lots more to resist.

    But this was a good day in a ghastly year, and it’s great to have something to celebrate.

  108. 108.

    Keith P.

    March 24, 2017 at 7:37 pm

    @hilts: It’s almost worth him winning to be able to actually watch him fuck up as badly as predicted. Hell, he’s doing it way faster than I thought he would. All that’s left are a few rapid-fire resignations.

  109. 109.

    john fremont

    March 24, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    @Yarrow: She persisted!!!

  110. 110.

    debbie

    March 24, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    I laughed out loud when Trump insisted the Democrats now owned ACA. When didn’t they own it?

  111. 111.

    Aleta

    March 24, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    @Keith P.: He ordered Pence back, but cell coverage is just so spotty when you’re going up the mountain in a gondola.

  112. 112.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 24, 2017 at 8:03 pm

    @Miss Bianca: @hedgehog the occasional commenter: Thanks! I am glad you liked it.

  113. 113.

    Chyron HR

    March 24, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Paul Krugman took a sledgehammer to Paul Ryan’s reputation today

    Paul Ryan took a sledgehammer to Paul Ryan’s reputation today.

  114. 114.

    Elizabelle

    March 24, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    @debbie: Proudly own it.

  115. 115.

    Elizabelle

    March 24, 2017 at 8:09 pm

    @Chyron HR: Yes indeed. And it was glorious to watch.

  116. 116.

    Barbara

    March 24, 2017 at 8:21 pm

    @Shana: What I meant was whether it is now clear that resistance is futile and there is no longer any political point or advantage in refusing to expand. Refusing to expand theoretically made the process of repeal easier because it is harder to take something away. Now it makes a lot less sense even as a symbolic gesture.

  117. 117.

    NR

    March 24, 2017 at 8:26 pm

    Obamacare certainly isn’t “good,” but it’s a damn sight better than the hot pile of garbage that was Trumpcare. Bury that thing in a deep hole somewhere and never let it see the light of day again.

  118. 118.

    JWR

    March 24, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    @Hal:

    Is there a concise, one stop resource about the ACA that one could read to fully understand how the law works?

    Not sure if this site is truly independent, but I’ve found lots of pretty good links while researching different bits of “ObamaCare”.

    (Plain ol’ URL, just in case the above embed don’t work. http://obamacarefacts.com/ )

  119. 119.

    tybee

    March 24, 2017 at 10:45 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    i like. more?

  120. 120.

    thruppence

    March 24, 2017 at 11:41 pm

    In the Denver TV market, the American Action Network is still running ads urging constituents to call Rep. Mike Coffman to thank him for getting rid of Obamacare and replacing it with the far superior Republican plan. I’m not in his district, but I think I’ll give his office a call tomorrow anyway.

  121. 121.

    catclub

    March 24, 2017 at 11:43 pm

    I want some reporter to ask what Trump offered to get Democratic votes.

  122. 122.

    Applejinx

    March 25, 2017 at 6:44 am

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Saw something crazy today in Denver: a dirty Subaru wagon in a Whole Foods parking lot with a Wilmer sticker on it!

    Oh, you mean Bernie Sanders, my Senator, who helped to kill this horrible Obamacare repeal business?

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