Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

If you are still in the GOP, you are an extremist.

I’d try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

You can’t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

We still have time to mess this up!

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

The words do not have to be perfect.

Let’s not be the monsters we hate.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

Let us savor the impending downfall of lawless scoundrels who richly deserve the trouble barreling their way.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

You can’t love your country only when you win.

Wow, I can’t imagine what it was like to comment in morse code.

So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.

Happy indictment week to all who celebrate!

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

Just because you believe it, that doesn’t make it true.

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  1. 1.

    lollipopguild

    Have these folks heard that martians have landed in New Jersey and are headed to New York City?

  5. 5.

    Goku

    There’s literally tens of people there! Alright everyone, pack it up. Your Soros bucks will be in the mail by tomorrow

  7. 7.

    Corner Stone

    VP Dense is apparently speaking somewhere in WV to a deeply stupid audience. But I repeat myself.

  9. 9.

    Gravie

    Good lord, these people are pathetic. Think of all the ills they could tackle if they used their resources on real problems.

  10. 10.

    rikyrah

    Yesterday was so important for many reasons.
    1. We kept healthcare for 24 million Americans
    2. They blew their shot on the one chance a year for Reconciliation
    3. Trumpcare was nothing but a tax cut plan masquerading as a healthcare plan. Now that that is gone, they must do their tax evil OUT IN THE OPEN.
    4. Yes, Price is a demon, but everything that he does to sabotage Obamacare is out in the open and we can highlight it.
    5. The ZEGK’s plan to dismantle the American Social Safety Net was dealt a blow. He’s gonna have to do it out in the open too.

    don’t let anyone lie to you..

    YESTERDAY WAS A VERY GOOD DAY

  16. 16.

    Chyron HR

    “Stop being smug and condescending to our Trump-voting overlords! Hildebeast!” – A True Progressive

  18. 18.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    Crap, even Alex Jones has apologized for running with this story. These clowns must be sad, stupid people to waste a Saturday morning on this nonsense.

  19. 19.

    Corner Stone

    @rikyrah: When Ryan goes back to his lair at Wolfram & Hart and peels his face off to reveal his hideous inner demon, do you think he talks to the other evil beings there about how hard it has been to not just start eating souls on live TV all these years?

  21. 21.

    Joyce H

    Does anyone know how Pizzagate originated? I’m not saying that there’s anything to it, but what nugget of fact did they build this fantasy around? Like for Whitewater, there was a land deal and a proposed bank loan for Susan McDougal. How did someone get from ‘this pizza place is owned by a friend of Hillary Clinton and David Brock’ to ‘they’re molesting children in the basement’?

  22. 22.

    Fred

    I don’t understand what a Pizzagate rally is. They don’t look too much like they do either. I’m sure it must be very important.

  23. 23.

    Corner Stone

    “Growth for America, and President Trump Digs Coal!”
    Yeah, just like he drives big rigs.

  28. 28.

    Corner Stone

    Whatever koolaid they served the people at this WV rally Pence is speaking at…DO.NOT.WANT.

  30. 30.

    NorthLeft12

    I went on the twitter thread and found a Canadian connection……our own idiot rich businessman/reality star who is running for leadership of the Conservative Party; Kevin O’Leary.

    Good grief.

  34. 34.

    PsiFighter37

    @Corner Stone: Pence is at a rally in WV? Is he telling them how great it is that Cheeto didn’t take away all of the benefits they get from ACA and blocked that big bad Paul Ryan?

    The cognitive dissonance of it all. I don’t fathom how Cole can handle reading about local politics.

  39. 39.

    germy

    @NorthLeft12: Did you see his performance on Celebrity Jeopardy? It was shocking how little he knew. (The questions are usually easier on the celebrity version because the $$ goes to charity.)

    He knows one thing. How to make and keep money. Everything else is secondary to him.

  40. 40.

    clay

    Couple points/questions:

    1) Of course, Jacksonville. Hometown pride! sigh

    2) What the crap does Wikileaks have to do with Pizzagate? What DNC e-mails mention a sex trading ring run from a non-existent basement of a pizzaria?

    3) Did they not see the story about the guy who stormed into the joint with an assault rifle and didn’t find anything (and was arrested)? It was kind of a big story…

    4) What, exactly, are they protesting? Child sex rings? Pizza parlors? And what do they think they are accomplishing?

    5) Seriously, what the fuck?

  41. 41.

    humboldtblue

    Now, now, now, you goddamn smug-ass hate-filled loser Democrats need to reach out to people like this because that’s the only way to win elections. We need more really fucking gullible and stupid white people to support the evil liberal agenda so mocking these fucksticks is just making Trump smile because we all know that liberal policies — which remain extraordinarily popular — are the reason Trump won.

    Who the fuck needs clean water, access to affordable and effective health care, a decent wage and working conditions? You stupid libs keep insulting the salt of the earth real Americans who want to “Trump that bitch” and “jail that bitch” and until you join in you will be losers.

    Losers.

  42. 42.

    Another Scott

    Somebody put a flyer in our mailbox a couple of weeks ago offering to repaint our address number on the curb for $20. Along with that flyer was a small piece of paper saying that Pizzagate was real and that we should send $5 to some PO box to learn more about it and fight it…!!!11ONE

    They really are out there, and not afraid to let people know!

    :-/

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  44. 44.

    Corner Stone

    @Joyce H:

    Does anyone know how Pizzagate originated?

    Well, you see, there was one time where this dragon on an island smoked pot. Pretty much all the time. And that’s not all bad, you understand. But the problem is that Little Jackie Paper loved that rascal dragon. Let’s call him “Puff”. And man, they would get high as fuck and frolic all over the place. On sailboats, in autumn mists, all kinds of crazy shit.
    But then one day Jackie’s parents reported him missing. What they later found out was that Jackie Paper didn’t want to frolic with Puff any longer. But Puff was an international drug trafficker that also dabbled in child prostitution. And so when Jackie had told Puff he was through with all the frolicking in the land by the sea, Puff said, “Fuck that shit. You know too much.” And that magic dragon stashed Jackie Paper in his cave under a pizza parlor in NJ, called up his cartel buddies the Clintons and said, “Shipment ready. One with sausage for pickup asap.”
    And that’s how we got PizzaGate.

  48. 48.

    smintheus

    @Another Scott: I once drove to a small town in PA looking to buy a used truck. After parking on a side street, a neighbor came out to engage me in conversation, which quickly turned to this (verbatim):

    ‘So what do you do for a living?’

    ‘I teach history at X university.’

    ‘History?! Man, I love history. I’m really into conspiracy theories.’

    ‘Oh? Which ones?’

    ‘All of them.’

  49. 49.

    germy

    This-Gate, that-gate, everywhere a gate gate.

    The nuts have been traumatized ever since Nixon flashed his “victory” sign and made his final exit from the White House. They’ve been aching for some sort of payback since the ’70s.

    Gate! Gate! Gate!

  50. 50.

    Joyce H

    @debbie:

    No nuggets at all. Sheer tinfoil-hatted lunacy.

    Yeah, I realized after my post that it was really silly of me to be expecting a semi-rational chain of argument from the right these days. Maybe a few decades ago, they would feel compelled to come up with something that sounded potentially plausible, but not anymore.

    You know, one thing that seriously irked me about the whole birth certificate nonsense is that nobody even bothered to try to find or invent any evidence that Ann Dunham ever went to Kenya! You know that she was probably the topic of a lot of gossip back then – the white teenager who married the African guy; if she’d gone to Kenya people would have talked about it! Someone from her college days would have surfaced and said, oh yeah, I remember when Ann went to Kenya. But… nothing.

  51. 51.

    Baud

    @germy:

    The nuts have been traumatized ever since Nixon flashed his “victory” sign and made his final exit from the White House.

    Wait till we do it again with Trump.

  52. 52.

    Another Scott

    @smintheus: rofl. :-)

    You bought the truck, right?! Tell me you bought the truck! :-D The stories would write themselves. ;-)

    Thanks.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  53. 53.

    JPL

    @Joyce H: It’s all about the cheese. John Podesta talks about cheese, which is a code name for children. Also comet pizza has a strange slice of pizza as part of it’s name. Thereare other tells also, but none of them make sense.

    @Baud: Alex Jones afraid of a law suit, nah. He’s a tough guy with extra belly fat.

  55. 55.

    Joyce H

    @germy:

    This-Gate, that-gate, everywhere a gate gate.

    The nuts have been traumatized ever since Nixon flashed his “victory” sign and made his final exit from the White House. They’ve been aching for some sort of payback since the ’70s.

    Gate! Gate! Gate!

    I’ve been noticing in the past week that the news media seems to have decided that the current scandal is called “Trump-Russia”. Personally, I’m thrilled that they’re not tacking a -gate on the end of it. That indicates to me an acknowledgement that this is something big, a scandal that future scandals will be compared to. After all, nobody called Watergate “Watergate-Dome” – they knew that Teapot Dome was going to be completely eclipsed by this big new scandal.

    So – Trump-Russia. Say it loud, say it often.

  58. 58.

    bemused

    Trumpie said Democrats own ready to explode Obamacare. I loved the clip I saw, can’t remember where, of Nancy Pelosi presser yesterday after vote pulled saying with a big smile, oh yeah, we’ll own it and giggling.

  59. 59.

    humboldtblue

    @JPL:

    Don’t forget the toppings — sausage speaks for itself and the sauce of course is how you cloak your nefarious actions all the while the Canadian bacon is code for how they ship the kids to other countries through an underground network of operatives who are dressed as pizza delivery people.

    This pizzagate has layers, like Shrek, lots and lots of layers, almost like a lasagna but instead it’s a calzone where you can hide the fact that the Clintons have been running a child sex ring since 1996.

    You have to learn to read between the toppings, these are crafty and smart people.

  61. 61.

    different-church-lady

    Annnnnnd… I think this clears up any lingering questions from Betty’s thread immediately below.

  66. 66.

    Lizzy L

    I can’t even with these people.

    I try not to lose my shit at the level of just plain stupidity exhibited by — folks, but damn it’s hard. Makes me want to scream. TURN OFF THE TV! DO NOT TOUCH THAT RADIO! PUT DOWN THAT PHONE! NO, DON’T SEND MONEY TO THAT WEBSITE —- AARGH! TOO LATE!

    They are zombies.

  68. 68.

    Aleta

    @Joyce H: The little that I remember is that the owner of the pizza place used to be partners (life-type; not sure if they owned the business together too) with a man who was politically active for HRC (maybe a fundraiser or donor). Also, the pizza place held family nights with games for children. Therefore when you add up gay + HRC + children + hate + brain damage + talk radio + percolation of paranoia + (unknown) you arrive at … it still is hard to believe.

  69. 69.

    Barbara

    @Baud: Jones needs to retract the claims in those videos to have any real hope of avoiding a libel suit, and he didn’t do that just by removing them. I hope the restaurant owner files suit. It’s outrageous that Jones did this. And as to the guy who threatened its employees at gunpoint and these apparent idiotarians protesting on Capitol Hill (hard to know whether they are serious) anyone who henceforth tries to tell me that I am out of touch with the authentic real folk of the heartland is going to get smacked. Their view of urbanites is so overdetermined by outright lies that they think we are the kind of people who would collectively overlook child sex trafficking in a neighborhood pizza restaurant. We are such helicopter parents around here that we are more likely to harass a restaurant owner for getting his underage children to work the cash register.

  71. 71.

    MattF

    @Baud: Yeah, Jones was just kidding! And, fwiw, the gunman, that would-be savior of abused innocents, has pleaded gulity. So, according to classic cognitive dissonance theory, the fervor of believers should become ever more intense.

  72. 72.

    lollipopguild

    @Corner Stone: I love you. Best laugh I have had in some time. You need to work the Beatles and “Lucy in the sky with Diamonds” into your story.

  73. 73.

    Corner Stone

    @rikyrah:

    and_ steal an election in the bargain began at the Mayflower Hotel.

    Personally, I blame Omnes and his entire family for this debacle.

  74. 74.

    tobie

    @humboldtblue: We have done it for a long time, and it’s not like the Obama administration’s drone policy was not without incident. But this report stands out because, if I recall correctly, the Trump administration is supposedly crafting new guidelines to make it easier to use drones in densely populated areas. I don’t know how much the plan to relax rules is related to this strike but of course the massive casualties draw attention to military campaign we’re involved in unbeknownst to most of the public.

  75. 75.

    Ruckus

    @PsiFighter37:
    Have they gotten any smarter? Quite a few of my classmates (50 fucking yrs ago. Damn) did not. In fact I think that HS may have been the highlight of their achievements.

  77. 77.

    efgoldman

    @lollipopguild:

    Have these folks heard that martians have landed in New Jersey and are headed to New York City?

    RWNJ knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, believe anything they tell us flying monkeys have moved into the space formerly occupied by the flat earthers and moon landing fraudsters. They are equally risible, except these klowns have guns.

  80. 80.

    efgoldman

    @germy:

    It takes many decades to reach that level of ignorance

    Only a couple if there’s inbreeding involved.

  82. 82.

    Gin & Tonic

    @bemused:

    Trumpie said Democrats own ready to explode Obamacare.

    To be literal, he said that first it would implode, then it would explode.

    No, it doesn’t make any more sense when typed out here than when I heard him say it yesterday.

  84. 84.

    germy

    from the apology:

    In issuing this statement, we are not admitting that Mr. Alefantis, or his restaurants, have any legal claim. We do not believe they do. But we are issuing this statement because we think it is the right thing to do. It will be no surprise to you that we will fight for children across America.

    But the Pizzagate narrative, as least as concerning Mr. Alefantis and Comet Ping Pong, we have subsequently determined was based upon what we now believe was an incorrect narrative.

    Despite the fact that we were far from the genesis of this story, it is never easy to admit when your commentaries are based on inaccurate information, but we feel like we owe it to you the listeners, viewers and supporters to make that statement, and to give an apology to you and to Mr. Alefantis, when we do.

    We encourage you to hold us accountable. We improve when you do.

  85. 85.

    efgoldman

    @smintheus:

    Literally. Where is Sarah Palin?

    Hasn’t Caribou Barbie been raptured to the great grift in the sky yet? Not for lack of trying.

  86. 86.

    Corner Stone

    @tobie: Those are your only two choices. Bombs or troops. The bad guys aren’t going away. So it’s just about the tools we use to eliminate them.

  88. 88.

    Corner Stone

    @Gin & Tonic:

    No, it doesn’t make any more sense when typed out here than when I heard him say it yesterday.

    Yeah, but yesterday you were high AF*. How’s today looking, Tonto?

    *To be clear, what he said yesterday was also balls out loco and just stupid

  89. 89.

    Baud

    @tobie:

    Try to remember this the next time people ask, “Why do they hate us so much?” Who drops bombs in densely populated areas?

    I understand that argument with respect to drones used against terrorists, but I don’t know that it applies to the U.S. working with Iraqis to free Mosul from ISIS. I suppose the question turns on whether the people of Mosul consider that conflict a legitimate one.

  90. 90.

    Aleta

    Most troubling for Mr. Alefantis and staff has been the use of children’s images, pilfered from the restaurant’s social media pages and the personal accounts of friends who had “liked” Comet Ping Pong online. Those photos have been used across dozens of websites. Parents, who declined to talk publicly for fear of retribution, have hired lawyers to get the photos removed.

    Musicians who have performed at Comet Ping Pong have been pulled in, too. Amanda Kleinman, whose band, Heavy Breathing, has performed there several times, deleted her Twitter account after the abusive comments became overwhelming. Similar comments have flooded her YouTube music clips.

    “We are at a dangerous place in American culture where a good percentage of people aren’t distinguishing what is a real news source based on real reporting and fact-checking and only reinforcing pre-existing ideas they have,” Ms. Kleinman said.

    The frustration has been compounded by the lack of recourse for Mr. Alefantis, his friends and employees. Yelp blocked the comments sections of Comet Ping Pong’s review page after reports of abusive comments and fake news in reviews. YouTube said it prohibits threats, harassment and hate speech and has tools for flagging violations and filing complaints for the site to take further action, but has largely not blocked comments on these videos. Twitter declined to comment, and Facebook did not have any further comment.

    (NYT, November)

    ETA (NYT) After employees and Mr. Alefantis complained to Reddit about how Comet Ping Pong was being targeted on the site, the #pizzagate discussion thread posted a warning that revealing personal information about individuals was prohibited.

  95. 95.

    germy

    BALLSTON SPA, N.Y. >> Voter turnout Tuesday was nearly double that in 2015 as two Democrats were elected to the Ballston Spa Board of Trustees while an incumbent Republican judge retained his seat.

    Democrats Shawn Raymond and Noah Shaw defeated Republican incumbent Ronald Henry and GOP candidate Bruce Coutoure for two seats on the board. Michael Morrissey kept his village justice seat, staving off a challenge from Democrat Erika Tebbens.

    Tuesday’s election marked the first time in several years that candidates from both parties ran for seats on village government and for village justice. For many years, incumbents had run unopposed.

    Union Fire Co. and Eagle-Matt Lee Fire Co. served as polling places, with residents living north of Kaydeross Creek voting at Union and those living south of the creek placing their votes at Eagle-Matt Lee.

    The polls opened at 11 a.m. and closed at 9 p.m. Throughout the day, a small but steady trickle of people parked along the roads near the firehouses and wandered into the firehouses to place their votes. By 6:45 p.m., Eagle -Matt Lee had collected 396 votes, with Union polling station having collected 225.

    Approximately 5,000 people live in the village, with about 3,000 registered to vote. The last election cycle – in 2015 – saw all but one incumbent running unopposed and an overall voter turnout of 411.

    On Tuesday, Raymond, Shaw and Morrissey each collected more votes than the total number of ballots cast two years ago.

    When asked why they thought there was such improved turnout over recent years, Shaw attributed it to the increased level of engagement on the part of the voters. Raymond agreed, adding that he and his fellow candidates began their campaigns early and reached out to more people through house parties, meet and greets and knocking on doors. He also said he thought the use of social media had a big positive impact on the campaign.

    Raymond also noted the village demographic has become more diverse in recent years, both politically and generationally, something that he believes may have added to the win by two of the three Democratic candidates.

  97. 97.

    Gin & Tonic

    I’m pretty high today, too. But I heard that line from him enough times to know it wasn’t just the narcotics.

  98. 98.

    Barbara

    @germy:

    Re: Ballston Spa, NY: I was in that part of the world just last week. My daughter is in school around there and it would definitely be good news if Democrats started having more electoral success there locally.

  102. 102.

    Corner Stone

    @jeffreyw: Sorry, but we all know that Occam was the code name for the cutout between Puff and the Clintons. Don’t even try it bubs, we’re on to you.

  103. 103.

    randy khan

    @germy:

    The person responsible for the ubiquity of “-gate” probably was William Safire, former Nixon speechwriter and New York Times columnist. He started tacking it onto every scandal he could find that involved Democrats soon after he got the column. Other than that minor obsession, he actually was a pretty good columnist. He had great sources on national security/Russia/Israel, and sometimes broke news in his column. He’d have been appalled to have MoDo on the Op-Ed page.

    (Safire’s also the guy who wrote the statement Nixon would have had to read if the moon landing had gone bad in 1969. The text is available online, and kind of creepy in a what-if kind of way.)

  104. 104.

    Suffragete City elftx

    @Joyce H:
    There were DNC receipts showing payments to the Comet Pizza place. Can’t remember for sure if they were on Wikileaks or not, but there is a series of emails revolving around a handkerchief left on a counter top. (yes I know, not sure if granite); apparently belonging to Podesta which had a map or maps of pizza joints ( I think).
    If not mistaken, Mike Cernovich ran w this and there was at least one if not more subs on Reddit dedicated to solving the mystery of Hillary and her participation in child sex rings. I know there was more to it including artwork belonging to Podesta’s brother which of course “proved” all the theories.
    As well as pictures proving the basement of horrors existed..nope no basement.
    I have a friend who started to get caught up in it so on occasion I would check out some threads. Wild and crazy ain’t the half of it..reinforcing each others conspiracy seemed to play a large role.

  105. 105.

    Corner Stone

    @HinTN: But it doesn’t. There are people we have to kill. They must be eliminated. The only debate is as to what tools we employ to achieve this outcome.

  106. 106.

    tobie

    @Baud: My point in mentioning this is that it coincides with the announcement by the Trump administration that they’re rewriting the rules regarding drones to make it easier to use them. This incident reminds us of the dangers involved.

    @Corner Stone:

    Those are your only two choices. Bombs or troops.

    The third option is to learn from your mistakes, so you don’t end up bombing civilians. It took the Pentagon some time but eventually in 2016 they did concede that they accidentally bombed a hospital associated with Doctors without Borders in Syria based on intelligence provided by local forces. Learning how to evaluate intelligence provided by parties *to* a conflict *in* a conflict is important.

  110. 110.

    Corner Stone

    @tobie: How is that a third option? Your mission is still to bomb/eliminate the bad guys. The outcome is still going to be the same, with some level of variance depending on the tools employed.

  111. 111.

    Corner Stone

    @jeffreyw: Man, we all know what “pineapple” is code for in the Puff-to-Clinton child sex ring. Not fooling anybody.

  112. 112.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    @tobie: If you have some method of retaking heavily populated areas from desperate, suicide-prone militiamen that doesn’t involve the possibility of significant loss of life among civilians, I’m sure the Pentagon would love to hear from you.

  113. 113.

    DissidentFish

    Does anyone know how Pizzagate originated? I’m not saying that there’s anything to it, but what nugget of fact did they build this fantasy around?

    To read the documents and emails where “Pizzagate” started, you’d have to read Russian. It’s 100% a psyop from the FSB. Engineered to appeal to a set of particularly gullible and social-media devoted Americans with a very strong streak of homophobia and a tendency to conflate gay persons (Comet owner) with pedos, and educated people (Podestas) with gays. Simple rule for 2015-2017 — if it started on social media and those clickbait ads, was against Hillary, and was evil, it’s Russian lie.

  114. 114.

    Chet Murthy

    @Corner Stone: Unless one wants to practice depopulation (I’m staying away from the word “genocide” b/c that’s not what I mean) as a military tactic, it’s relevant to weigh the balance of tactical gain vs. the loss of civilian life and possible recruitment value to the enemy, right?

    I know that during PBHO’s time, it was a big deal to get this right, and lots of folks (including libs) second-guessed him (and rightly so) on these decisions and the calculus behind them.

  115. 115.

    tobie

    @Corner Stone: @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: I don’t work for the Pentagon. I am not a military strategist, and I can appreciate the difficulty of fighting an aerial war in any urban area. The job of the military is, among other things, to evaluate each and every operation to make sure it was effective and held civilian casualties to a minimum. I think the rank-and-file are probably doing this because it is standard operating procedure. If not, we are really becoming more like the Russians in Syrian which bombed densely populated areas with no attention to civilian casualties. I don’t want us to become like that. The fact that the current administration is trying to make it easier to use drones makes this whole episode noteworthy, at least for me.

  117. 117.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    @tobie: And there’s no evidence that what you want hasn’t been done. If you are fighting to retake a city, there will be instances where your munitions kill people you didn’t intend, probably in large numbers. It’s not a likelihood; it’s a certainty. That’s the nature of urban warfare.

    The only way to keep such incidents from happening at all is to just let Daesh keep Mosul.

  119. 119.

    D58826

    @Corner Stone: He is rattling on about the nightmare of Obamacare. Seems he didn’t see the big note in the sky.

    There was another tweet that I didn’t read but a moderate GOOPER is talking about talking to the D’s to see if they can get something productive done. Heck take him up on the offer to talk, see what he is will to deal on and how many votes he can deliver in the House and the Senate. Everyone agrees that there are things that have to be fixed in Obamacare. Heck even Obama said that he would support a different plan if it delivered universal coverage at affordable prices. So lets tell the GOOPERs to put up or shut up on begin ‘reasonable’ .

  121. 121.

    wonkie

    @germy: I dont think Trump knows how to make and keep money. He inherited vast amounts and has been through bankruptcy multiple times and has not managed to lose it all yet, though he might be hiding his tax returns due to be upside down with th eRussians.

  122. 122.

    tobie

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: This is the context for the raid from the Washington Post:
    “Airwars, a U.K.-based monitoring organization, has raised the alarm about what it says is a surge in recent weeks of reported deaths caused by U.S.-led airstrikes. The conduct of the air campaign is under especially close scrutiny in the early days of the Trump administration, which has promised to wage a more aggressive campaign against the Islamic State.
    President Trump has already asked military leaders to consider whether requirements on U.S. military operations against the group should be loosened.”

    More is at stake here than just, “Shit happens in war.” We’re changing our tactics in ways that might well cost more civilian lives. This would be something to be vigilant about under any administration but especially under Trump.

  124. 124.

    hueyplong

    Trump has demonstrated that he doesn’t care about American lives. Not difficult to guess what he thinks about the lives of demonized non-Americans. To him, “collateral damage” in the middle east is probably a goal.

  125. 125.

    Corner Stone

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    We don’t go back to the Mayflower.

    Well, no. Now that it has been outed as a haven for Russian spying activity I would not expect you or your family to go back there any longer as it’s burned, comrade.

  126. 126.

    zhena gogolia

    @wonkie:

    Dostoevsky always has these characters who have inherited and lost several fortunes before the story begins (I’m reading a story with one right now, The Eternal Husband). I used to think it was unbelievable.

  127. 127.

    EBT

    @Joyce H: Alex Jones wanted hits for his website, so he projected the sexually abused children in his own basement on to a property that he believed to be owned by someone who knows the Clintons.

  128. 128.

    Corner Stone

    @tobie: The job of the military is to locate, close with, and destroy the enemy. Whether through bombs, drones or troops you are asking a blunt force tool to handle a scalpel.

  129. 129.

    tobie

    @Corner Stone: Point taken: the military is a blunt-force instrument. That’s one reason why nations are reluctant to go to war. Are you comfortable with the Trump administration redefining the US drone policy and relaxing when and how “blunt force” tools can be used? That’s the question I’ve been asking.

  130. 130.

    D58826

    @tobie: And now Syria

    Trump Is Dragging Us Into Another War… And No One Is Talking About It
    While Americans have been focused on the ACA and Trump’s ties to Russia, Trump has been busy expanding the American troop presence inside Syria.

    article is by Sen. Chris Murphy. And that doesn’t include Yemen, N. Korea and the old standby Iran.

    Russia is off the list due to his being buddies with Vald and it seems the Kushner family has some big business ties with China so we will make nice with the Chinese as well.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-is-dragging-us-into-another-warand-no-one_us_58d5d3f5e4b0f633072b37db?ln16dodnfabutyb9&

  131. 131.

    D58826

    @tobie: I don’t think anyone is comfortable with Trump having his grubby little fingers on anything more potent that a cap pistol.

  132. 132.

    PIGL

    @Corner Stone: since when does the United States of America have A mandate from heaven to eliminate all of the worlds bad guys. If there were such a mandate why don’t you start at home?

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    clay

    @D58826: This can’t be right. I was assured by leftist purity squads that Hillary was the bloodthirsty warmonger who would bomb all of the brown people. And that Trump would at least keep us out of foreign entanglements.

    It really should’ve been obvious at the time, but in retrospect it’s crazy how many of the you-know-who bro arguments about Hillary were parroted from Vladimir Putin.

  134. 134.

    Corner Stone

    @tobie: No, no, no. We do not discuss the policy here. We are only allowed to argue between choice A or B. Now, again. Would you rather risk troops going in to execute this mission? Because these people need to be eliminated. That has been determined.

  135. 135.

    D58826

    @clay: Wasn’t there a report in the past week or so that Wikileaks/Putin were feeding the Sanders campaign info to cause/aggravate a split between the Clinton and Sanders camps. Hard to keep up with all the places that the Russians stuck their noses.

  136. 136.

    BC in Illinois

    @Joyce H:

    You know, one thing that seriously irked me about the whole birth certificate nonsense is that nobody even bothered to try to find or invent any evidence that Ann Dunham ever went to Kenya!

    This reminds me of the one response to the Birthers that I have remembered, stolen, and used.

    “I know for certain that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.”
    “Oh, really! And how do you know that?”
    “Because at a time like that, a child wants to be near his mother.”

  137. 137.

    jeffreyw

    @Corner Stone: Those cartons are greasy! Dawn cuts grease but the grease is not cut out, it just goes some where else. To the damn menu, just like we were talking about before you lost the thread.

  139. 139.

    bupalos

    @humboldtblue: Typically clueless, self-aggrandizing, angry, stupid, and self-defeating.

    Take a look at that picture. In particular, I call your attention to the ages of the 4 people in the foreground. That picture should break your heart, because it’s prima facia evidence of child abuse, and probably drug abuse, and it’s how this whole whirlygig keeps whirling. It doesn’t break your heart though, no, you’re tough. It just gets your dander up. At who? Who else, other liberals who are just too kind. Apparently all you see is the insufficiently outraged and overly kind and understanding liberals that are standing outside the frame but somehow always in your eyes. How you see them through the blood is the real mystery.

  142. 142.

    Gretchen

    Kansas legislature voted to expand Medicaid yesterday! The resistance got rid of the Brownback tools in November and voted some sane people in!

  143. 143.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @smintheus:

    ‘So what do you do for a living?’

    ‘I teach history at X university.’

    ‘History?! Man, I love history. I’m really into conspiracy theories.’

    ‘Oh? Which ones?’

    ‘All of them.’

    So, Katie, we’ve established that “Smintheus” is your BJ nym.

  148. 148.

    Mart

    Now that this thread is dead; John Belushi wants to know, how much for the little boy and girl?

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