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Omnes Omnibus
Glittery eyes too.
lamh36
Evening BJ.
Alright now…Bodyguard musical was pretty good! Had to try my hardest NOT to sing along LOUDLY! Ms Deborah Cox sounded fabulous and the actress who played her sister sang beautifully. If you loved the movie and you love Whitney Houston’s music…It really was great. they the 6 most iconic songs from the movie and 6 or so of Whitney’s greatest hits…and incorporated them all throughout the musical. Def recommend it
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
More Star Anna: Alone In This Together. I love her.
lamh36
So..I think I asked design advice before, but in case I forgot…here are the chairs I got…this is the chocolate sofa I want…does it work? maybe with accent pillows for sofa to match the chairs? Remember the sofa will likely look a bit darker under my apt lights. I was thinking …like maybe the same blue (or close to it) of the chairs for the sofa, and maybe pillows for chairs close to color of sofa
https://twitter.com/psddluva4evah/status/850882020800696321
sukabi
Ready for more military drama?
sukabi
@lamh36: sure get some accent pillows that have a design pattern that has the same shade of blue and some lighter blues of the same blue family…and it will look great.
Edit…especially if the pillows have a tiny bit of the sofa brown
Shana
@lamh36: Absolutely they work together. They’re both relatively simple lines. You could try to find a color that works with both fabrics to make into pillows for both the sofa and the chairs, or do something for the sofa that incorporates the color of the chairs and something for the chairs that includes the brown of the sofa (or a brown that may be lighter, just keep it the same kind of brown). I’d try to find a pattern that includes both the turquoise and the brown and use the same fabric for both.
I don’t know what your sewing skills are, but even if they’re basic you should be able to do it. Let me know if you need instructions. I’m heading off to bed soon, but I’ll try to check this thread tomorrow morning in case you want help.
efgoldman
@lamh36: Sit on it for a while first! Make sure it’s comfy and fits you, and that it’s easy to sit down on and get up from (a problem with some couches for shorter or :::ahem::: wider people). Doesn’t make a damned bit of difference what it looks like if it doesn’t fit YOU!
raven
Just watched it, good stuff
JPL
@sukabi: This is from CNN
He doesn’t like low poll numbers.. just sayin
schrodingers_cat
@lamh36: It will work. I think a red sofa or a cream sofa would work even better. Are you going to add an area rug?
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: Who had Toshiro Mifune’s part?
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodingers_cat:
It would really tie the room together.
demz taters
More Star Anna: https://youtu.be/6fxpU6GGNig
efgoldman
@Omnes Omnibus:
So would colored string
JPL
@Adam L Silverman: Since you are the expert, what is Trump doing?
efgoldman
@JPL:
Probably searching for his phone.
schrodingers_cat
@Omnes Omnibus: Are you teasing me? An area rug on the beige carpet will really brighten up the room.
Omnes Omnibus
@demz taters: Indie cred overload.
lamh36
@Shana: sewing skills…0 to none…I mean I can stitch a small tear, but I cant’ promise it would be an even uniform stitch…lol
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodingers_cat: Reference.
lamh36
@efgoldman: I actually already saw the sofa in the showroom…seat tested and everything, but the color in the showroom was red. My sis is looking at the showroom near her home which I think has the sofa in chocolate in the storeroom. So I commandeered her help (as the older sister I have that authority) so she’s going head out take a pic of the chocolate sofa for me there and also check out some accent pillows (her BF works at the local furniture store I like)
Mary G
@lamh36: I love blue and brown together. Pillows are cheap enough that you can change them when you get tired and it will look like a whole new room.
Adam L Silverman
@JPL: When the North Koreans hull the Vinson he’s going to like his even lower poll numbers even less. The dirty not so little secret of our carrier fleet is that the carriers themselves have become, thanks to technological innovations, even bigger floating targets than they’ve historically been. No one is dumb or crazy enough to try to engage a Carrier Air Group in air combat, we have unquestioned air superiority/dominance. So everyone has instead poured money into missile technology that are very difficult to defeat.
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/america-insists-on-a-13-billion-aircraft-carrier-thats-1793233401
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-10-22/aircraft-carriers-are-the-navy-s-sitting-ducks
http://lexingtoninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/aircraft-carrier-invulnerability.pdf
In other cases, from what we can gather, they’ve developed asymmetrical and/or irregular tactics to use small boat vehicular borne IEDs (VBIEDs) to hull a carrier. (slide 6):
http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/mccaffrey-nbc-iran-nukes-and-oil-january-122012.pdf
Adam L Silverman
@JPL: Trump played Toshiro Mifun’s scruffy samurai?
JPL
@Adam L Silverman: uhoh..
efgoldman
@Adam L Silverman:
Surely the admirals and other flag officers know that, too.
lamh36
@schrodingers_cat: someone suggested cream or orange, but I’m not much a fan of light colored furniture, and orange or red, just isn’t in my wheelhouse…too bright for the home mood I like…I may though be persuaded into a light gray/charcoal gray???
And yes, I would like an area rug and either a coffee table or ottoman set to go in the center of the living room, and a table between the two chairs and the sofa…but I’m NOT set on the tables just yet
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: One would hope.
lamh36
@Adam L Silverman: Unfortunately he didn’t make it into the musical…
Of course ya know I had to google him…right…lol
efgoldman
@lamh36:
If your niece is going to spend any time with you, light color is a very bad choice.
Juice Box
I l@lamh36: I like the blue and brown together. I would be tempted to add some orange pillows or blue/orange or chocolate/orange. I have dogs and do not care for light colored furniture, either….
schrodingers_cat
@lamh36: Charcoal gray would be great, red and cream accent pillows. What about a lighter shade of blue?
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: Remember the clip of the Japanese samurai film from the movie that Kevin Costner is watching? That’s a clip of Mifune from the Kurosawa film Yojimbo. Yojimbo means bouncer, but based on the lead character’s actions in the film, is often rendered in English as bodyguard. And the character is supposed to be loosely based on Musashi.
lamh36
@efgoldman: def true…Maddie isn’t much good for light colors either…lol.
Zoe did come to visit today, after the sister and I came back from the musical. She came inside…looked around the place…checked out the bedroom, got on the bed but I think it was too high for her too…so she wanted down…lol.
Went back to the living room…surveyed the living room and then she left…lol. Much better than the other apartment, she never liked walking to the back master bedroom…but now the new apt with just a door separating living room from the bedroom, I think she’ll like much better. And yes, she needs dark furniture…
lamh36
@Juice Box: ooh…blue/orange chocolate/orange…I think I like those colors…I def plan to play a bit with the pillows this time around. The sofa comes with chocolate accent pillows, that I thought I might use for the chairs…and then a “patterned” throw to replace the sofa pillows…
Mike in NC
I’m old enough to remember the Reagan era and the urgent need to build a 600 ship navy. Not much thought was ever given to the mission, however. It just looked good on paper.
Adam L Silverman
@Mike in NC: First question should always be: what’s the strategic objective? Then to what effect? Then is it feasible, acceptable, and suitable?
lamh36
@Adam L Silverman: Wait one minute Adam Silverman…you actually remember seeing The Bodyguard…that’s it, you are now my FAV front pager…
If you tell me you also saw Dirty Dancing and didn’t hate it, you DEF become my fav FP of all time…lol
As for the musical, it change up the “date night” a bit, kept the more “emotional” bits, but the place and date particulars were slightly diff than the musical
Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: I always thought it was “Yo, Jimbo!”
efgoldman
@Mike in NC:
Mittster tried to sell ot, too.
Lizzy L
I really don’t like to think about what message the NKs will take from the Carl Vinson coming into their strike zone. Here, target this. It’s big… I have to think they will do nothing except make loud threatening noises. I know it’s not unusual for aircraft carriers to enter that region, but I don’t know what to make of the timing, after Syria. I hate being this fucking edgy.
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: I saw it. I’m not a big Kevin Costner fan, but I think I got dragged to the movie when it was released in Scotland, which is where I was living when it came out.
I also saw Dirty Dancing. I far prefer Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse. I also far prefer Roadhouse.
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: Nope, that’s general how you get the server’s attention at the BBQ place.
Omnes Omnibus
@lamh36: Everyone has seen both of those movies and no one puts Baby in a corner.
Brachiator
@Adam L Silverman:
Is this similar to the situation in the World War I years, where technological innovation quickly rendered battle ships and dreadnoughts obsolete as soon as they were built?
J R in WV
@lamh36:
We’ve been to the resort where much of Dirty Dancing was made. Mountain Lake in VA, old fashioned place.
Irony Abounds
Star Anna sounds great, I’ll have to check out more of her music. I also recommend Amy Macdonald. Her new album is great, and her Scottish accent is to die for.
lamh36
@Adam L Silverman: ha…I prefer Patrick Swayze in ANYTHING…RIP Patrick Swayze
Dirty Dancing is probably, who am I kidding, IS my fav movie. I was like 11 or 12 when I saw it…just the type of movie a pre-teen girl would love…it made a long lasting impression and Swayze was a BIG part of that…lol
In fact, when Patrick Swayze died, I swear the number of friend and faily who called/text/posted online to see how I was taking it…was embarrassingly funny
Omnes Omnibus
@Brachiator: Or the invention of the the Dreadnought which made everything else obsolete and essentially created the pre-WWI arms race.
Brachiator
@lamh36:
I just recently heard about the Dirty Dancing remake, to be shown on ABC May 17, I think. Some fans of the original want to put this baby in a corner.
lamh36
I Dirty Dancing love it so much I’m likely even gonna hate watch this ABC remake…which looks so bleh from the pics..
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/06/entertainment/dirty-dancing-remake/
ETA: @Brachiator: Jinx…lol. Great minds think alike!
Jean
@J R in WV: I’ve been to Mountain Lake too. It’s quite pretty and I enjoyed hiking around there.
RobertDSC-iPad Mini
@Adam L Silverman:
And none of the CVN’s escort ships can stop small boats off the DPRK coast? I could see small boat tactics working in the Strait of Hormuz, but not anywhere off the coast of DPRK.
efgoldman
@RobertDSC-iPad Mini:
It only takes one out of a swarm.
Adam L Silverman
@Brachiator: Sort of. What’s happened, as the Foxtrot Alpha article clearly articulates, is that Russia and China have worked hard to develop missile technology to defeat US countermeasures to protect carriers in order to be able to sink one. This makes sense. If you can’t develop parity to counter the weapon system as its designed – to provide a large, mobile platform to project force via the Carrier Air Group, then develop weaponry to take out the platform itself. And this tech, both the legacy missiles that have been updated and refitted, as well as the contemporary generation tech, is intended to be over the horizon. The issue here, of course, is who has this tech been sold too?
As for the asymmetrical threat: this is the opposite end of the spectrum. Iran doesn’t have the resources, or because of other requirements they feel the need to spend the resources on, they’ve developed an asymmetric and irregular approach to dealing with the US. We know, because it leaked into the news back in 2008, that the Iranian plan if the US rolled across the border from Iraq, was to basically empty out all the urban areas, break the population up, assign them to military elements composed of a combination of special (Republican Guard and the even more elite Quds Force) and conventional military personnel to form guerrilla cadres, which would pull back into the rural, mountainous areas and conduct an irregular and unconventional warfare defense against the invaders. As GEN McCaffrey’s briefing delineates, this irregular and asymmetric approach extends to the Iranian navy’s potential offensive options in the Persian Gulf. McCaffrey is asserting that in a confined Sea Line of Commerce and Communication (SLOCC), it is possible to breach a carrier group’s perimeter and defenses using small boat VBIEDs to attack and possibly sink a carrier. This is the low tech flip side to what the Russians and the Chinese have done.
All of this feeds to a larger issue: the US military acquisitions process, and the decision making for it, is based on a lot of things. The first are legacy, entrenched interests. Within the military itself, within industry, and within local, state, and national politics. This locks us into the acquisitions equivalent of a bureaucratic Iron Triangle that often has us procuring equipment that really doesn’t fit the contemporary operating environment while at the same time trying to get ahead of the curve on what might/will be needed in the future operating environment.
Adam L Silverman
@Brachiator: @Omnes Omnibus:
Adam L Silverman
@RobertDSC-iPad Mini: That’s a major difference. In the tight confines of Strait of Hormuz and the still confined, but larger Persian Gulf that would work. In the Sea of Japan or Korea Bay it is a different story. The question is whether they’ve either stolen the plans and tried to build one of the PRC anti-carrier missiles as a deterrent or they’ve bought them under the table.
efgoldman
@Adam L Silverman:
Didn’t the Argentines sink or cripple a major British Navy asset with basic, old (for then) missile technology in the Falklands war?
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: They sank 6. Five British Naval vessels and once British equivalent of the Merchant Marine. The first was sunk with exocet missiles.
http://historylists.org/other/list-of-6-british-ships-sunk-during-the-falklands-war.html
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: WTF?
Villago Delenda Est
@efgoldman: Delusion is strong with naval types. The classic story of this is the Japanese wargaming of the Battle of Midway in which the Japanese officers playing the Americans sank most of the Japanese aircraft carriers, and the Admirals in charge (not including Yamamoto, who knew better and was out of favor for knowing better) decided that this was “unrealistic”, refloated the carriers, and went on to successfully invade Midway Island.
Unfortunately, in real life you cannot refloat carriers by fiat.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: From Jeff Wayne’s musical version of The War of the Worlds narrated by Sir Richard Burton. Whenever I see dreadnought I think of this bit. BTW whoever he got to sing the female lead parts in the original recordings has one of the sexiest voices I’ve ever heard.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: The Exocet was not out-dated in 1982
Lyrebird
@lamh36:
Another reason to love your family, that’s awesome. I was very taken with Dirty Dancing when I saw it as a teenager, but less so seeing it again as a 30-something. But what do I know, my favorite movies run more to “The Incredibles” and “Shrek” (just the first one) and if we’re really gonna talk fairy tales, “My Big Fat Greek Wedding.”
My turn to be pedantic though- @Omnes Omnibus: I’ve never seen the Bodyguard or Roadhouse.
Omnes Omnibus
@Lyrebird: Weirdo.
Adam L Silverman
@Villago Delenda Est: It’s not just the Japenese.
https://warontherocks.com/2015/11/millennium-challenge-the-real-story-of-a-corrupted-military-exercise-and-its-legacy/
Much more good stuff at the link Zenko did a real good job with his book on what happened.
Villago Delenda Est
@Adam L Silverman: The Sheffield, IIRC, was not heavily armored in the modern fashion and thus fairly easy prey for an Exocet.
Adam L Silverman
@Villago Delenda Est: Would make sense.
Lyrebird
@Omnes Omnibus: Weirdo? Fer sher. Logged on quickly, not gonna read through that previous thread about effing popular people.
I won’t repeat my (weird and nerdy) jokes here about what “normal” means because a) they’re all bad statistics jokes and b) for all I know one of my former students is reading here & could identify me through them…
Brachiator
@Adam L Silverman: Lots to digest here. I’m saving this and some earlier comments here to read later.
The public perception, based on reactions I’ve heard over the past few days, is that no nation has done anything or could do anything to stop the mighty US military. This is sadly unrealistic.
As an aside, I read somewhere that the new US ship, the Zumwalt? only requires a crew of 150.
efgoldman
@Adam L Silverman:
Power Point was their first problem.
More seriously, this is the same mindset that rigged the tests and/or results of anti-missile systems to make sure they appeared to work. isn’t it?
Villago Delenda Est
@Adam L Silverman: I’ve heard some of the more senior officers are none too happy with the modern PowerPoint staff presentation. Too much glam, not enough guts.
Adam L Silverman
@Brachiator: The Zumwalt is an interesting lady. The real problem with it is that no one thought to actually do proper budgetary calculations for its most important weapons system. Also, we are only likely to build a handful of them…
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a23738/uss-zumwalt-ammo-too-expensive/
Lyrebird
@Omnes Omnibus: Thanks, fwiw that one is more powerful for me than what Mistermix highlighted.
Shannon McNally might be too folky for some but I love her voice.
Peace all
Yarrow
@Adam L Silverman: So we’re going to be bombing Syria and get into some kind of mess with North Korea? That sounds smart.
RobertDSC-Mac Mini
@Adam L Silverman:
I can imagine a cruise missile strike, yes. This goes back to your point about not knowing enough about the internal goings-on of the DPRK.
But a small boat attack isn’t something I can imagine. Yankee Station was 100 miles off the coast of Vietnam. I can’t see a carrier group closer than that to the DPRK.
efgoldman
@Brachiator:
As a whole, no.
Given who’s “in charge”, and all the levels of absent planners, strategizers, and logistics organizers, I expect any major operation now would make 2003-05 in Iraq look like one of the greatest successes of all time.
Bombing an empty airfield for show may lead eventually to getting a lot of people killed for nothing.
Again.
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: @Villago Delenda Est: When used properly, as in a couple of bullet points per slide to hang the actual briefing on, with maybe a picture or a chart or a graphic, it is a useful tool. When everything possible is crammed onto the slide in itty bitty 6 point font, not so much.
The larger problem is that the US military constantly tells itself it is a learning organization. It isn’t. I have far more experience in dealing with the Army, but I can tell you without any doubt that the Conventional Army is not a learning organization. Honestly, I’m not even sure what a learning organization is.
efgoldman
@Adam L Silverman:
The average grade school?
Brachiator
@Adam L Silverman: I had to laugh as soon as I got to this part.
Railguns are depicted in the SF series “The Expanse.” Interesting extrapolation of current/new tech to science fiction.
ETA The Zumwalt woes could be called “The Expense.”
Adam L Silverman
@Yarrow: There was a singular report from a news service I’d never seen before linked to by The Jester that there had been an attack at the Dara Crossing on the Jordanian border with Syria earlier today and that Jordanian armor and US SOF had responded. I’ve seen no other reports or confirmation.
What we’re going to see is a lot of testing and probing, which we’ve already seen. The DPRK has already issued a statement indicating that the (futile) attack in Syria on Thursday night proves them right to have developed a nuclear deterrent. Everyone else will now follow suit. The Russians are trolling the President over the attack. They put a surveillance drone over the airfield shortly after the attack to show there was almost no significant damage. And what was damaged was confined to the perimeter.
https://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/850433158659047425
And more footage from Friday of Syrian SU 22s taking off without problem from the air base:
The only thing worse than doing nothing is doing something pointless and ineffective. And that’s what the President chose so as to not upset the Russians. The Russians and Syrians today doubled down in their attacks on Idlib and Latamenah using incendiary ordnance.
We have deterred nothing. We have impressed no one. We have no strategy. I’m not even sure we have tactics at this point. We have a dead Soldier in Afghanistan KIA today. We have 91 other countries relying on us as part of a Coalition in Iraq and Syria and a good chunk of NATO in Afghanistan. And I cannot, in any way, shape, or form coherently explain what the US is doing. Or why.
Adam L Silverman
@RobertDSC-Mac Mini: I would be very surprised by one in the Sea of Japan or Bay of Korea.
Steve in the ATL
@efgoldman:
Who knew that a meaningless saying from little league baseball could be meaningful in national security matters?
amk
Nut in west. Nut in east. World in between.
Adam L Silverman
@Brachiator: @efgoldman: In a conventional interstate war? The US has superiority across the board. In the type of warfare that we have seen since 2001 and will see for the foreseeable future? US SOF has superiority. US Conventional Forces have mixed results. And we never have enough SOF including the hard core snake eaters. And after the past 16 years no one in the right mind is going to try to fight the US in a conventional interstate war. The smart strategist would only attempt asymmetric and irregular warfare against the US. That’s what makes the Iranian Quds Force so dangerous: they have the best strategist from any country in the Middle East as their commander.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/09/30/the-shadow-commander
And I highly recommend you read that article when you have the time.
Gravenstone
@Omnes Omnibus: I have seen neither of those movies, and have no compelling interest in ever doing so. Some universal statements are anything but.
Adam L Silverman
@Brachiator: Complete breakdown of the acquisitions process. Absolutely unacceptable.
Calouste
@Adam L Silverman: That singer is Julie Covington, who also did the original of Don’t cry for me Argentina. And I agree with your assessment of her voice.
Villago Delenda Est
@Adam L Silverman: That’s pretty much the way I learned to do it when I was on 9ID (MTZ) staff back in the years of and following the High Tech Test Bed period. You still had to have solid staff work for the briefing, and I always as G1 Plans made the caveat that my available references dated from WWII (for casualty estimates), not anything from the contemporary era of the 80’s, which would have been far more lethal, and even moreso today. I imagine that they’ve updated the FMs and so forth with data from the first and second Gulf Wars, you’d know better than I on that count.
TriassicSands
@efgoldman:
Well, not exactly “for nothing.” Killing lots of people will enhance the Trump brand, which will increase his profits and since that is the main reason for his being where he is (that and revenge on those who ridiculed him at the Correspondents’ Dinner) you could say that killing a lot of people is in the service of the highest calling of this president.
Sane people agree it’s for nothing. But sane people are not running the show.
Adam L Silverman
@Calouste: Yep. I just listened to The Spirit of Man. Absolutely amazing voice.
Adam L Silverman
@Villago Delenda Est: Field Manuals are now called Army Doctrinal Publications. Or Army Doctrinal Reference Publications. So we’ve updated some stuff. The CAC Commander that ordered the nomenclature change is one of my least favorite general officers.
Villago Delenda Est
@Adam L Silverman: Incendiaries are so much more humane than chemical weapons. Truly we have advanced the cause of the little babies who are far too dangerous to be allowed in this country as refugees.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: dude, are you just being difficult, or wasd Toshiro Mifune actually in that movie? Cause if so, I, uh…will have to view it stat. (And if not, World’s Most Gullible Person sez, ‘Curse you, Red Baron!’)
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus: true fact – I was in a band full of Lebowski freaks called Nice Marmot. And our motto was , by God, “they really tie the room together.” Still got the t-shirt.
Origuy
@Adam L Silverman:
I can’t think about Roadhouse now without thinking about Ron White’s classic routine, I Got Thrown Out of a Bar in New York City.
Ramalama
@raven: I watched twice in a row Almodovar’s film “Talk to Her” – just couldn’t leave the movie theatre. “All About My Mother” was moving and strange and complete, as well.
Ramalama
Also – this Star Anna song is incredible. I am in that ‘high curmudgeon’ phase of my life where seeking out new music takes effort. And in the past, I put in great amounts of effort. Thanks for the video.
Shana
@lamh36: Oh well…