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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Everything is dust in the wind

Everything is dust in the wind

by DougJ|  April 10, 201710:50 pm| 76 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Election 2018

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Cray, if true.

> @BryanLowry3 reports: A GOP circulating in the district shows Estes up only 1 https://t.co/vqIhkkwIK6

— Alex Roarty (@Alex_Roarty) April 11, 2017

Knowing nothing else, I'd say a good result for Dems in KS-04 would be losing by 20 or less. This type of result would be tidal wavesque. https://t.co/JkpfcK7Cex

— (((Harry Enten))) (@ForecasterEnten) April 11, 2017

Trump won this district by 27 points.

Thanks to everybody who kicked in — we raised $2500 for Democrat James Thompson in this race. It’ll be exciting to see what happens tomorrow. There are no moral victories in politics, but a closish race tomorrow should scare the fuck out of Congressional Republicans and convince them to shelve at least parts of their destructive agenda.

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  1. 1.

    rikyrah

    April 10, 2017 at 10:54 pm

    Good luck to the candidate

  2. 2.

    Yarrow

    April 10, 2017 at 10:58 pm

    I hope the Democrat candidate James Thompson wins. If we can’t have that, then I hope it’s very, very close. Last week was crappy and today didn’t help. It’s time for something to change.

  3. 3.

    efgoldman

    April 10, 2017 at 10:58 pm

    a closish race tomorrow should scare the fuck out of Congressional Republicans and convince them to shelve at least parts of their destructive agenda.

    Or, because they are nihilists, cause at least some of the kkkrazy kkkaukus to double down and push even harder to immiserate their constituents and everybody else.

    ETA: Of course I hope the Dem wins, but I’m not optimistic. It’s Kansas, after all. Something’s the matter with it.

  4. 4.

    Ruckus

    April 10, 2017 at 10:59 pm

    should scare the fuck out of Congressional Republicans and convince them to shelve at least parts of their destructive agenda.

    I’m having a difficult time squaring this circle.
    They are on a roll and they won’t stop until they are defeated, the earth is salted where they are buried so they can’t arise from the dead and people are ashamed to call themselves republicans or even say the word out loud.

  5. 5.

    danielx

    April 10, 2017 at 11:01 pm

    Knock on wood…I’ve no doubt it will be good for Kansans, and anything that sends chills down the backs and bodily wastes running down the legs of congressional Rs is all good.

    OT on another question: is it a misdemeanor or felony when someone piles dirty dishes in the sink ON TOP OF two really excellent knives, a three inch paring knife and six inch utility blade?

  6. 6.

    mapaghimagsik

    April 10, 2017 at 11:01 pm

    Could this just be grifting on the part of the GOP?

  7. 7.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 10, 2017 at 11:03 pm

    @danielx:

    OT on another question: is it a misdemeanor or felony when someone piles dirty dishes in the sink ON TOP OF two really excellent knives, a three inch paring knife and six inch utility blade?

    Don’t tell me, let me guess. You’re asking for a friend, right?

  8. 8.

    Marcopolo

    April 10, 2017 at 11:05 pm

    Good luck to us! And for all the blogfolk who live in and around St. Louis, tonight at the local Indivisible meeting I found out Senator McCaskill has scheduled a town hall meeting for this Wednesday at the Jefferson College Fine Arts Theater building in Hillsboro. Doors open at 8 am with a 9 am start time. Hope some folks can make it there.

  9. 9.

    Bess

    April 10, 2017 at 11:07 pm

    @danielx:

    Capital offense….

  10. 10.

    Doug!

    April 10, 2017 at 11:07 pm

    @mapaghimagsik:

    I think so, yes, but I figure it means the reality isn’t more than ten points or so different than that.

  11. 11.

    Achrachno

    April 10, 2017 at 11:11 pm

    @danielx: It’s fine. No harm done. What are sinks for if not to pile up dishes needing work?

  12. 12.

    Another Scott

    April 10, 2017 at 11:14 pm

    I got a nice e-mail from Thompson today, thanking him me for my contribution. He seemed genuinely grateful.

    Make it happen, Kansans. Fingers crossed.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  13. 13.

    danielx

    April 10, 2017 at 11:16 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    No, definitely me and all me. I am contemplating the appropriate punishment for the guilty party(s) since they have been warned previously. I backed off the flogging and maiming ideas.

    @Achrachno:

    I got no problem with dishes, it’s setting them in on top of my good knives that I don’t even run through the dishwasher.

  14. 14.

    Smiling Mortician

    April 10, 2017 at 11:16 pm

    @Ruckus: Ayup.

  15. 15.

    kdaug

    April 10, 2017 at 11:18 pm

    Same old song

  16. 16.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 10, 2017 at 11:24 pm

    @danielx: Knives get washed separately. They just do.

  17. 17.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 10, 2017 at 11:24 pm

    @danielx:

    I guess I would want to know what those two really fine knives were doing kicking around in the sink like that in the first place.

  18. 18.

    jnfr

    April 10, 2017 at 11:30 pm

    Siubhan is right. Those knives need their own cleaning space.

  19. 19.

    Yarrow

    April 10, 2017 at 11:32 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Yes. That would be my question. Good knives should be set to the side of the sink to be washed separately. Lesser knives can be set in the sink. Good knives should be washed immediately after they’re done being used, dried and put away.

  20. 20.

    CaseyL

    April 10, 2017 at 11:33 pm

    @danielx: Did you get them out before they rusted?

    I’m with @SiubhanDuinne, though. What were they doing in the sink?

    I still have a set of custom kitchen knives, a gift from my ex (a really, really good sword- and knife-maker) when I moved out, into a house I’d bought. (Amicable split, and we were close friends for many years afterward.) They hardly ever get near the sink. I clean them right after use, dry immediately, and put them back in the rack. I’ve had them nearly 20 years, and have taken them back to him once for serious cleaning and a little regrinding to freshen the edge.

    One useful punishment would be to make the guilty party clean, polish, and re-sharpen the knives using just a whetstone.

  21. 21.

    joel hanes

    April 10, 2017 at 11:34 pm

    @danielx:

    No knife with a wooden handle belongs in a sink, ever, unless you’re holding it in your hand while washing it.

    Worse than running a well-seasoned cast-iron skillet through the dishwasher, but only a little worse.

  22. 22.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 10, 2017 at 11:34 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Knives get washed separately. They just do.

    Yup. Good kitchen knives because they’re sharp and can do damage.

    Bad/cheap kitchen knives because they’re dull and can do even worse damage.

    Table knives because allowing them to soak damages their handles.

    Also, it’s a Rule.

  23. 23.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 10, 2017 at 11:36 pm

    @joel hanes:

    running a well-seasoned cast-iron skillet through the dishwasher

    I’m not even a cook by any definition of the term, but that sent nasty chills up my spine.

  24. 24.

    SFAW

    April 10, 2017 at 11:39 pm

    There are no moral victories in politics

    Well, if Il Commendatore were to rise up, and drag The Turtle down to Il Inferno with him, I would call that a moral victory. Of course, The Turtle is a whiny-ass “tenor,” not a baritone, but still ….

  25. 25.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 10, 2017 at 11:39 pm

    @Another Scott:

    I got a nice e-mail from Thompson today, thanking him me for my contribution. He seemed genuinely grateful.

    I got one too. I wish him well in the election. Even a close vote, as others here have noted, would send a Message.

  26. 26.

    Suzanne

    April 10, 2017 at 11:41 pm

    While we are on the topic of kitchen stuff, I am starting to plan for replacing my kitchen cabinets. Blah. I am trying to decide if I should stick with IKEA or spend the money for real wood cabinets. I just want white, but I like good casework. I will be doing solid surface or quartz countertops, depending on what I can get from one of my vendors, price-wise.

  27. 27.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 10, 2017 at 11:44 pm

    @SFAW:

    Well, if Il Commendatore were to rise up, and drag The Turtle down to Il Inferno with him, I would call that a moral victory. Of course, The Turtle is a whiny-ass “tenor,” not a baritone, but still ….

    I don’t think that’s quite what the author of The Song of Songs had in mind when he wrote “The voice of the turtle is heard in our land”….

  28. 28.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 10, 2017 at 11:44 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: No, it is because they are mini-swords. :P

  29. 29.

    Aleta

    April 10, 2017 at 11:44 pm

    Trump and Vice President Mike Pence have recorded robocalls to urge voters in the Wichita area to vote for Estes.

  30. 30.

    germy

    April 10, 2017 at 11:45 pm

    Embattled Fox News host Bill O’Reilly on Monday laughed at disturbing footage of an United passenger being forcibly removed from a plane.

    O’Reilly played a video of the scene before chuckling to his correspondent.

    “I shouldn’t be laughing, but it’s just so bizarre,” O’Reilly admitted.

    Maybe we’re hearing a laugh, or is it a death rattle?

  31. 31.

    SFAW

    April 10, 2017 at 11:47 pm

    @Ruckus:

    They are on a roll and they won’t stop until they are defeated, the earth is salted where they are buried so they can’t arise from the dead and people are ashamed to call themselves republicans or even say the word out loud.

    The oath of all true patriots, vis-a-vis the Rethugs, should be “To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.” Yee-haw!

    Christ, I’m starting to sound like TenguPhule.

  32. 32.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 10, 2017 at 11:48 pm

    @Aleta: That may not work nearly as well as the Rethugs think it might.

  33. 33.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 10, 2017 at 11:49 pm

    @SFAW: While I approve of Enzo Ferrari, I am not sure he is that political.

  34. 34.

    SFAW

    April 10, 2017 at 11:53 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    While I approve of Enzo Ferrari, I am not sure he is that political.

    Don’t you have some brief you should be writing, or some Dep to read, or a new CheeseHead to buy?

    Enzo was old, but not as old as the real Commendatore, smartass.

  35. 35.

    StringOnAStick

    April 10, 2017 at 11:53 pm

    @Suzanne: Whatever you do, get good enough cabinets that the shelves are actual wood, not particle board. I didn’t find anything at IKEA that passed that test, and if you are going to invest in a solid surface too then put it on decent cabinets. Particle board will sag with time and heavy pans or dishes. We just did our kitchen and I was able to get decent cabinets through a local direct sales place for a reasonable amount more than IKEA. We really like the no-slam doors and auto closing drawers, and with cast iron pans we know the shelves won’t sag. I’d say the brand name but I’m afraid that might violate a blog rule, but a FP’er can give you my email address.

  36. 36.

    Mike J

    April 10, 2017 at 11:53 pm

    Ugh. Test on 90 pages of reading plus a three minute presentation on 2 specific pages.

    The Republican health care plan to change 1/6th of the US economy was less detailed than the first nights homework of a sailing instructors class.

  37. 37.

    SFAW

    April 10, 2017 at 11:56 pm

    @Mike J:

    The Republican health care plan to change 1/6th of the US economy was less detailed than the first nights homework of a sailing instructors class.

    And that was the one they DIDN’T dumb-down for Shitgibbon to be able to read it.

  38. 38.

    cckids

    April 10, 2017 at 11:57 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    running a well-seasoned cast-iron skillet through the dishwasher

    I’m not even a cook by any definition of the term, but that sent nasty chills up my spine.

    We had a babysitter do that once, to my decades-old seasoned pan. And not a helpful teenager, but a grown-ass woman. I struggled to overcome my need to just never hire her again. She was incredible with my kids, but STILL.

  39. 39.

    danielx

    April 10, 2017 at 11:57 pm

    They should not have been in the sink at all, since I hadn’t put them in the sink, but somebody thought it was a good idea put take them off the counter where I put them. No wooden handles, good Henckels, utility knife was about sixty bucks worth of german steel fifteen years ago and I have no doubt it would be more now. I wash them by hand, dry them by hand, touch up with sharpening steel by hand, all that, and some other member of the domestic corps decided to put them in the sink at the bottom and bury them under all these goddamn plates and such. It’s almost as bad as using steel utensils with a nonstick skillet.

    ETA: or running a cast iron skillet through the dishwasher. Older is definitely better when it comes to cast iron, btw. I inherited a perfectly seasoned WagnerWare skillet and there’s no comparison with Lodge, for example.

  40. 40.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 11, 2017 at 12:00 am

    @SFAW: NO ONE SHITS ON ENZO!

  41. 41.

    Aleta

    April 11, 2017 at 12:02 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: I hope they keep it up.

  42. 42.

    Yarrow

    April 11, 2017 at 12:02 am

    @danielx: Time for a household meeting and review of protocol.

  43. 43.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 11, 2017 at 12:04 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    No, it is because they are mini-swords.

    Well YEAH, of course, DUH, that goes without saying. ?

  44. 44.

    chopper

    April 11, 2017 at 12:07 am

    crazy? you call that crazy? that’s like, just check marks on a list, man.

  45. 45.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 11, 2017 at 12:08 am

    @Yarrow: The protocol is that we bring in the United Airlines protocol team to deal with you.

  46. 46.

    chopper

    April 11, 2017 at 12:08 am

    @Mike J:

    “Pirates like to say:
    A) wha?
    B) hey!
    C) fuck you!
    D) arrrrrrrr”

  47. 47.

    SFAW

    April 11, 2017 at 12:08 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    NO ONE SHITS ON ENZO!

    Oh, calm the fuck down, youngster. I wasn’t. I would be quite happy to own an Enzo, or a Boxer, or a 250 GTO, or pretty much anything from him/them.

    But get some goddamn culture, will you? You friggin’ Wolverines, with your bizarre rituals.

  48. 48.

    SFAW

    April 11, 2017 at 12:10 am

    @chopper:

    or
    E) All of the above

  49. 49.

    Mike J

    April 11, 2017 at 12:11 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Lewis did pretty well this weekend.

  50. 50.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 11, 2017 at 12:13 am

    @SFAW: Fuck it. i really want an Aston Martin. WASP that I am. It’s just that Enzo did beautifully too.

  51. 51.

    Mike J

    April 11, 2017 at 12:18 am

    @chopper: After it stopped hailing while we were sailing a very sensitive boat I’ve never been in it was kind of pretty.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9Fqz3SXgAANgp_.jpg:large

    I actually said to the 16 year old (who is going to teach at summer camp this year) “Double rainbow! What does it mean?!?!” he looked at me like I was crazy. Apparently completely unfamiliar with a meme from 2010.

  52. 52.

    catclub

    April 11, 2017 at 12:19 am

    but a closish race tomorrow should scare the fuck out of Congressional Republicans and convince them to shelve at least parts of their destructive agenda.

    Yeah, right. Like not winning a majority of voters convinced Trump to nominate Merrick Garland, our new Supreme court justice, to reach across the aisle in a gesture of comity.

  53. 53.

    SFAW

    April 11, 2017 at 12:20 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    No argument from me. All sorts of cars that I wish I could afford to own.

    My current project is saving up for a Trabant. It’ll go well with my Gremlin and my Anglia.

  54. 54.

    SFAW

    April 11, 2017 at 12:22 am

    @catclub:

    to reach across the aisle in a gesture of comity.

    Shitgibbon’s idea of “comity” is either

    A) Not saying “FUCK YOU!” (aloud) to the Dems (and America) when he nominates someone
    or
    B) Andrew Dice Clay

  55. 55.

    Mike J

    April 11, 2017 at 12:28 am

    @SFAW:

    My current project is saving up for a Trabant. It’ll go well with my Gremlin and my Anglia.

    Do you watch Hat Films? They just bought one.

  56. 56.

    efgoldman

    April 11, 2017 at 12:33 am

    @SFAW:

    It’ll go well with my Gremlin and my Anglia.

    You mean you don’t own a Pacer?

  57. 57.

    Suzanne

    April 11, 2017 at 12:34 am

    @StringOnAStick: It’s going to depend on the budget. I get a lot of trade discounts through work, but only on materials, not labor. Solid wood is for sure the best, though 9-ply plywood is good, too.

  58. 58.

    joel hanes

    April 11, 2017 at 12:39 am

    WagnerWare skillet

    nice

  59. 59.

    Kropadope

    April 11, 2017 at 12:43 am

    Well, since we’re mostly not talking about Kansas, I’d just love to throw in how much I love this cover of “As My Guitar Gently Weeps” as well as the movie it was produced for.

    Also really upped my Halo Wars game today.

  60. 60.

    SFAW

    April 11, 2017 at 12:46 am

    @Mike J:

    Do you watch Hat Films?

    Never heard of them before your link, and that’s 10 minutes of my life I’ll never get back.

  61. 61.

    SFAW

    April 11, 2017 at 12:48 am

    @efgoldman:

    You mean you don’t own a Pacer?

    Not yet. That’s on my list, too.

    I’m getting bumper stickers made: “My Other Car Is Just As Dorky”

  62. 62.

    MisterForkbeard

    April 11, 2017 at 12:59 am

    @SFAW: But what about the finest of cars: The Reliant Robin ?

  63. 63.

    Mike J

    April 11, 2017 at 1:01 am

    @SFAW: I hope you skipped forward to where they bought the car rather than just driving around in Turps’ Porsche.

    And yeah, watching people play video games isn’t for everyone, and then watching people who play video games online for other people to watch do things other than play video games really isn’t for everyone.

    And my first car was an AMC Matador. You know the fuel efficiency gauge Priuses have? The Matador, born in the seventies, had the same thing, but it was basically a relabeled tach. The car worked though, and was worth the $500 I paid for it.

  64. 64.

    joel hanes

    April 11, 2017 at 1:16 am

    The Subaru Brat was as bizarre as the Pacer, I always thought — the original, with the strapped-down carnival-ride seats in the open bed. With big handholds, because … whoa, hold my beer.

  65. 65.

    Gretchen

    April 11, 2017 at 2:59 am

    @danielx: I hate people piling dirty dishes in the sink at all. I’ve been trying to convince my husband for 40 years that it just makes more work. You pile in a bunch of not-so-dirty dishes, then you have to rinse off a greasy tomato-sauced dish, and it slimes the other 10 dishes that are already in the sink. If you’d piled them on the counter, you’d just have a dirty sink. But for some reason he thinks that a sinkful of slimed dishes is better than cleaner ones on the counter. Probably because I’m stuck cleaning up all the slimed ones. And if I cut myself on a knife at the bottom after cleaning the slimed ones? Felony.

  66. 66.

    Gretchen

    April 11, 2017 at 3:07 am

    @efgoldman:
    “ETA: Of course I hope the Dem wins, but I’m not optimistic. It’s Kansas, after all. Something’s the matter with it.”
    Kansas is about a year ahead of the rest of the country vis a vis the Resistance. I’ve lived here for almost 30 years, and the first 20-25 it was run by moderate good-government types of both parties. Remember Kathleen Sebelius was governor when Obama was elected. People didn’t pay attention because both parties were all about good roads, schools, and public services. They didn’t pay attention to the wingnuts until the roads, schools, and public services were affected, and now they’re pissed and demanding change.
    My Brooklyn daughter brought her New York boyfriend home to meet the family this weekend. I thought he’d be eager to get back to civilization, and he wished he’d had a little more time. He liked the space between houses, between parking spaces (he sometimes sits in his car for hours waiting for a space on the opposite side of the street when the sides switch), the wide roads, the uncrowned spaces. And he thought the barbeque was terrific. This was a really nice place to live until the wingnuts took over, and I’m hoping we’ll be able to take it back.

  67. 67.

    WaterGirl

    April 11, 2017 at 4:02 am

    I’m just going to vent here a minute. My brother-in-law’s best friend has been visiting them for a week. He’s pretty much a total pig but he has been a very good friend to my BIL.

    He’s one of the guys who used to send the photos of Barack Obama as a monkey, etc. He hated Barack Obama with a passion, hates the government, by the way, but he was happy to take his TSA paycheck. So my sister asks him how he likes retirement (he retired a few months ago) and his response was that he was happy to to have to be around all the niggers and sand niggers anymore. What a fucking pig. Can we just send these people to another planet?

    Apparently that little rant was his answer to almost any question she asked. She cannot wait for him to be out of her house. Personally, I wouldn’t stand for that talk in my house, even if he is her husband’s good friend from college. But maybe that’s why I’m not married and my sister is.

    Thanks for letting me rant.

  68. 68.

    Taylor

    April 11, 2017 at 4:23 am

    @WaterGirl: You understand that your BIL’s friend believes that the BIL thinks as he does, he’s just constrained by “political correctness.”

    And you know he’s wrong because?

    My wife wrote off her friend of 40 years after the Trump election.

  69. 69.

    WaterGirl

    April 11, 2017 at 4:51 am

    @Taylor: I can see why you would say that, but my BIL told his friend to stop sending him that crap by email, etc and my BIL voted for Barack Obama. But I agree that if you are still friends with someone like that, you are complicit.

    I think my sister’s skin is crawling, however.

  70. 70.

    Syphonblue

    April 11, 2017 at 5:34 am

    a closish race tomorrow should scare the fuck out of Congressional Republicans and convince them to shelve at least parts of their destructive agenda.

    Nah, it means they’ll fast track their voter suppression laws.

  71. 71.

    Raoul

    April 11, 2017 at 7:10 am

    It’s election day in KS. Hope there is a shockwave. And thanks for doing the ActBlue the other day. I did ask a couple times a few weeks ago for one, hopefully next time we can give earlier into a race like this (even tweeted DougJ abt it as well as several comments on previous threads about the GA race).

    If you add in my contribs to Thompson throughout the campaign, we BJers raised at least $2,800 for him. And I really appreciate all who gave, but wish we coulda given earlier for a bit more impact. C’est la vie, c’est la guerre.

    ETA: wow, y’all gave an average of close to $50 a pop to Thompson. Another anecdata that liberals/progressives are fired up to kick some GOP butt. Good!

  72. 72.

    SFAW

    April 11, 2017 at 7:30 am

    @Gretchen:

    I’ve been trying to convince my husband for 40 years that it just makes more work.

    He’s got your number.

    @Gretchen:

    They didn’t pay attention to the wingnuts until the roads, schools, and public services were affected, and now they’re pissed and demanding change.

    And yet, Brownback is still governor.

    Look, I want to believe that you’re right re: Kansas becoming normal again. But to paraphrase Mencken: no one has lost money underestimating the likelihood that non-left voters will vote against their own interests — as long as there’s someone they can can “punch down” on.

  73. 73.

    prob50

    April 11, 2017 at 11:49 am

    @germy:

    “I shouldn’t be laughing, but it’s just so bizarre,” O’Reilly admitted.

    O’Reilly sense of humor is on the same level as his sense of what is appropriate behavior. Offensive, Dumb, Sick, and Twisted. I still remember that asshole making fun of a then 13-year old Chelsea Clinton.

  74. 74.

    Boatboy_srq

    April 11, 2017 at 11:50 am

    @Ruckus: Same here. In a world where the GOTea calls 48% for their own a “mandate” and 54% for Dems “voter fraud” it will be difficult to dissuade them without a thorough shellacking.

  75. 75.

    catclub

    April 11, 2017 at 1:27 pm

    @Gretchen:

    They didn’t pay attention to the wingnuts until the roads, schools, and public services were affected

    except for paying attention by voting for said wingnuts for ten+ years.

  76. 76.

    Gretchen

    April 11, 2017 at 2:15 pm

    @SFAW: It was close last time, and I really believe it was stolen. Statistician Beth Clarkson has been trying to get voting machine tapes to analyze for years because she keeps seeing statistical anomolies in the totals, but with Kris Kobach in charge of elections, I’m not believing in free and fair elections until I see the evidence.

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