Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

He seems like a smart guy, but JFC, what a dick!

“I was told there would be no fact checking.”

When we show up, we win.

We are aware of all internet traditions.

Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity

The current Supreme Court is a dangerous, rogue court.

Why is it so hard for them to condemn hate?

We will not go back.

Let’s not be the monsters we hate.

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

The Supreme Court cannot be allowed to become the ultimate, unaccountable arbiter of everything.

The media handbook says “controversial” is the most negative description that can be used for a Republican.

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

When you’re a Republican, they let you do it.

Jack be nimble, jack be quick, hurry up and indict this prick.

Since we are repeating ourselves, let me just say fuck that.

If a good thing happens for a bad reason, it’s still a good thing.

Stop using mental illness to avoid talking about armed white supremacy.

It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.

She burned that motherfucker down, and I am so here for it. Thank you, Caroline Kennedy.

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

The snowflake in chief appeared visibly frustrated when questioned by a reporter about egg prices.

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

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  2. 2.

    MattM

    Over 50 is less of a longshot than it looked like this morning.

    And the bar set by his doubters–outperforming Clinton’s 46ish percent–seems likely to be cleared.

  3. 3.

    Sarah in Brooklyn

    Looks like more of a longshot as the results come in. Feels like it’s taking forever!

  4. 4.

    patroclus

    I think I’m gonna ramp up The Band singing “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” and hear about Virgil Cain and the Danville Train. Should it be Levon w/ that Arkansas accent or Joan Baez??

  5. 5.

    JPL

    Debby Downer is hoping he tops forty percent. North Fulton hasn’t reported and turnout among old white guys in pickups and cadillacs was big.

  6. 6.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Most of this is reposted from downstairs.

    With 20% of precincts reporting, Ossoff is at 57% of the total vote.

    Spent the entire day poll-watching at four different locations, one of which I went to twice. And then towards the end of the afternoon someone from the GA Dem boiler room called and asked me if I would go to a voting location that had problems this morning and opened late (thus, were under court order to stay open late) and would I report back on any remaining issues. Which I did, of course, but man am I exhausted.

    Sure hope Ossoff can pull out the 50%+1 today, if for no other reason than that I don’t want to go through another super-long day of poll-watching in two months for a runoff election (because electoral outcomes are, naturally, all about me and how tired I am). Seriously, there’s an incredible amount of interest in this race — one location where I spent several hours had both network and local TV, an AP photographer, and probably others I didn’t catch.

    The fact that Trump is tweeting so insanely about this race tells me he is VERRRRY worried

  8. 8.

    p.a.

    This is good news for John McCain, correct?
    If these results hold it’s because of outside agitators. Busloads of illegal voters. North Korean pro-Democrat hacking. Fake news. Obamaphone voters. The Chicago machine. Community organizers. (((Cosmopolitans)))

  10. 10.

    patroclus

    32% in – Ossoff slips to 54%. Sad to say, this looks to be heading towards a run-off. Handel second; Gray 3rd.

  16. 16.

    lamh36

    I sincerely hope the party is getting more out of this tour than just this bullshit…smh…they look ridiculous…

    They are not even on the same wavelength…BS seems to dislike the Dem party almost as much as he disliked Repubs.

    @ljoywilliams
    I don’t understand what the F**K is going on. Bernie Sanders was just directly asked if he’s a democrat and he said NO.
    @ljoywilliams
    We already knew this, but why the HELL is he on freaking tour to reform a party he doesn’t even claim in public??????
    L. Joy Williams ✔ @ljoywilliams
    Black women bustin’ our individual and collective asses for the party and I ain’t seen no grand gestures for that loyalty, yet…
    @ljoywilliams
    the party built a whole damn tour around someone that don’t even claim us in public.

    Her entire twitter TL rant is worth a read.

    https://twitter.com/ljoywilliams/status/854497321354240002

  20. 20.

    planetjanet

    I am doing my happy dance! We had a special election here tonight as well for Clerk of the Court. Democrat Jacqueline Smith won 55 to 45. Our county is a bellwether for Virginia. Most of our local officials are Republican. We worked hard to get out the vote, especially absentee voting. I volunteered a few weeks ago to hand out sample ballots at the DMV and vote absentee. Everyone’s work paid off.

  21. 21.

    patroclus

    @Lizzy L: Yeah, and Danko on guitar (and they need to turn Robbie’s mic off). Joan Baez didn’t even record the correct lyrics – she just based it on hearing the Band’s version (but she does have an amazing voice)..

  22. 22.

    PaulWartenberg

    to me, it’s amazing how much of an overall lead Ossoff has over all the candidates, but that’s merely an illusion based on there being 4 different Republican candidates vying for those votes. Still, for Ossoff to have that much support over any one Republican is a good sign: it’s telling that the top-vote Republican isn’t breaking 20 percent at the moment.

  26. 26.

    frosty

    @patroclus: Levon. Joan butchered the critical lyrics that gave the song a sense of history, time, and place..

    Til Stoneman’s cavalry came vs.
    Til so much cavalry came

    and

    I took the train to Richmond that fell vs.
    By May the tenth, Richmond had fell,

    QED

  28. 28.

    Corner Stone

    And of course we have Rick Wilson on his twit feed not only calling Chelsea Clinton “fetch” but also giving an A+ rating to a tweet some other R asshole made where he photoshopped the Vanity Fair cover to suggest Chelsea was a robotic sexbot ala Westworld.

  34. 34.

    tobie

    @planetjanet: You have every reason to do a happy dance. VA is turning blue, and I love that Democratic voters are turning out for local elections. Thanks for working on this one!

  36. 36.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Sarah in Brooklyn: The type of machines they use require them to pull the memory cards and transport them via car to the central counting/processing location. Have you been in metro Atlanta traffic lately?

    Also, this seems incredibly insecure and an easy way to have opportunities to tamper with things.

  38. 38.

    efgoldman

    AP hasn’t updated in some time. Still showing only 67 precincts reporting. NYT is more up to date (and more depressing).

  44. 44.

    trollhattan

    @tobie:
    VA has the dignity of being the sole state from the Confederacy to vote for Clinton. I award everyone a medal.

  45. 45.

    Adam L Silverman

    @lamh36: I’m watching the interview with Perez and Sanders now – I had DVRed it. You and the person you’re referencing are absolutely correct.

  49. 49.

    amk

    @lamh36: He is a leech. Given the thugs’ majority in the senate, his vote is not so ‘valuable’ any more. Time for dems to stop mollycoddling him.

  55. 55.

    Quinerly

    @rikyrah: @lamh36: According to “Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign,” Saint Bernie called HRC’s “I’m With Her” slogan “phony.” Her campaign gave him a script for some commercials that they wanted him to cut for her. He followed most of the script but refused to say “I’m with her” at the end. The commercials never aired, but pieces of them were used on line. I so loathe that man. Fuck Bernie Sanders. To my dying day, I will blame him for Trump’s election…even more so than I blame Comey. I won’t be convinced otherwise.

  56. 56.

    efgoldman

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Wilmer is like a family friend that you refer to as ‘Uncle Wilmer’ that comes over and tells you how to run your house.

    Except we stopped inviting him a longtime ago. Next step is to move and not tell him where.

  57. 57.

    patroclus

    @amk: Doesn’t seem likely now – back when he was at 71%, there was a good chance. If those 35 voters hadn’t have voted for Independent Andre Pollard, though, it was doable (sigh).

  58. 58.

    Adam L Silverman

    @amk: Cobb has 73% reporting. Fulton and Dekalb, where he’s likely to do better than Cobb, are at 16% and 67% respectively.

  60. 60.

    Stacy

    @planetjanet: so glad to hear that she won! Here in VA10 and we’re trying to oust Rep. Comstock. She’s very good at hiding out from her constituents and then taking pictures that make her seem oh-so-moderate. Of course she’s a tea partier in sheep’s clothing.

  63. 63.

    tobie

    @lamh36: I heard Perez was on Chris Hayes show with the Independent Senator from VT this evening. Maybe we should start an email campaign to his show letting him know we’d like to hear more from Democrats and less from Independents–especially Independents who’ve accomplished nothing and berate Democrats who’ve accomplished a lot. Anyone have the email address for the show?

  66. 66.

    JPL

    @Adam L Silverman: His weakness is North Fulton where I live and Roswell, Alpharetta and John’s Creek are out.

    I just got word that some council numbers are coming in, so the 6th should be reported soon.

  69. 69.

    JPL

    Good news for me. The council seat is a runoff and I will no longer try to get out the vote in my location. Good for me because where I live is still Trump country. ugh

  70. 70.

    patroclus

    @amk: Chicago (a huge Cubbie fan). Born and raised in Tejas, from a county that voted against secession and for Sam Houston.

  71. 71.

    Adam L Silverman

    @JPL: Thanks for the info. Haven’t lived there in 25 years, so I have no idea what has and hasn’t changed.

  72. 72.

    Another Scott

    @planetjanet: Fabulous news! I hadn’t known about the race until I saw lowkell’s post at BlueVirginia:

    Let’s start with an election that’s actually happening tomorrow, between Jacqueline Smith (D) and Jackson Miller (R) for Clerk of the Circuit Court in Prince William County. My question on this one is simple: why haven’t Democrats given Smith enough money to match Miller, or at least come close? I mean, PW County only went for Obama twice and Clinton by a big margin…

    Jackson Miller (R): $157,806 plus $77,500 in “last-minute money”
    Jacqueline Smith (D): $35,535 and no “last-minute money.”

    Congratulations on the well deserved win, and thanks for all your work!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  73. 73.

    SFAW

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Fulton and Dekalb, where he’s likely to do better than Cobb, are at 16% and 67% respectively.

    The FTFNYT has DeKalb at 95 percent reporting, as of 5 or 10 minutes ago. Ossoff did slightly better than Hillary there. In Fulton, he’s currently running at about 55 percent, but I have no idea if the precincts reporting (so far) are primarily blue, primarily red, or what. The general had Shitgibbon beating Hillary by 48.9 to 46.4.

    ETA: And I don’t know enough about it to parse JPL’s comment re: North Fulton et al.

  74. 74.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Adam L Silverman:

    It has turned into a sour joke. Fire melts a chunk of I-85. Chunk of I-20 buckles. Buford Highway catches on fire. A tanker overturns on the I-75/I-85 “downtown connector” spilling hazardous chemicals. A truckload of foam tomahawks spills at I-75/I-285 en route to the new Braves Stadium. I’m sure there are more events I’m forgetting.

  75. 75.

    Elizabelle

    @SiubhanDuinne: Good work, Mme Duinne. May you be watching the results with a glass of red, and may they be good.

    Some good news in NoVA: longtime and fairly moderate suburban Republican delegate Dave Albo surprised everyone by retiring suddenly; decided not to contest this fall as district is pretty safely turning blue (went 57% for Hillary). WaPost suggests this might have been the first Trump effect in Virginia, although state legislature is appallingly gerrymandered for GOP.

    Until this week, the Virginia House of Delegates district held by Del. David B. Albo for 23 years seemed like a lock in November for Republicans working to hold their solid majority in Richmond amid what Democrats hope will be a voter backlash against President Trump.

    But Albo (R-Fairfax) surprised his party by announcing Wednesday that he won’t seek a 12th term — a move that has Republicans scrambling for a replacement in a vulnerable Fairfax County district where Democrats are ready to pounce.

    “It’s going to be really difficult for Republicans to retain that district,” said Quentin Kidd, director of Christopher Newport University’s Wason Center for Public Policy.

    “There is going to be a lot of headwind coming out of Trump’s White House,” Kidd said. “In the two and a half decades I’ve been watching Virginia politics, I haven’t seen Democrats as energized or organized for General Assembly races as I’m seeing them get now.”

    Albo said he decided against seeking reelection for financial reasons. Taking time off from his work as a criminal defense lawyer in Northern Virginia for as many as 100 days per year to attend to business in Richmond eats into his ability to earn money for retirement and for his 11-year-old son’s college fund, Albo, 54, said in an interview.

    “It’s been a struggle,” he said. “I’m not saying I’m going to be thrown out of my house or anything. But I’ve got to make money to properly care for my family.”

    Since he took office in 1994, Albo’s 42nd District — stretching from West Springfield southeast to Mason Neck — has become increasingly Democratic.

    Hillary Clinton won 57 percent of the vote there in last year’s presidential election. President Barack Obama, Gov. Terry McAuliffe and Sen. Mark R. Warner, all Democrats, also won their contests in the 42nd. Former Republican governor Robert F. McDonnell took 54 percent of the vote there in 2009.

    … Whether Albo’s departure will affect the 66-34 Republican majority in the House of Delegates [gag!] is uncertain.

    But Democrats smell blood in the water.

    House Democratic leader David J. Toscano (Charlottesville) characterized Albo’s decision to step down as part of “a rising tide of . . . resistance” in Virginia.

    “Delegate Albo is now the eighth Republican incumbent in the House of Delegates to announce that he will either retire or seek other office,” Toscano said in a statement, which also called Albo “a wonderful friend” who has made “substantial contributions” during his legislative career.

    “Meanwhile, we have 77 Democrats running in 49 districts currently held by Republicans, including all 17 that Hillary Clinton won,” the statement said. “This news speaks both to the strength of our candidates and the rising tide of the resistance.”

    Albo conceded that his district is now vulnerable. He has yet to meet with anyone interested in stepping in, he said.

    “It’s going to be a hard seat for Republicans to win, to be honest with you,” he said. “But the right Republican could win. If someone is a more community-minded Republican like I tried to be, I think that’s the right formula.”

    … The two Democrats vying to compete for Albo’s seat in their party’s June 13 primary say Albo’s departure improves their chances in November.

    Tilly Blanding, 66, a retired Fairfax County social worker, has been campaigning to oust Albo — among other things, highlighting his unwillingness to fight for Medicaid expansion in Virginia and calling him weak on women’s rights.

    She vowed to stick to her message with the powerful incumbent out of the picture.

    “I’m not going to work any less hard,” Blanding said.

    Kathy Tran, a former U.S. Labor Department deputy administrator, praised Albo and said she’s the best candidate to fill his shoes — albeit with a progressive bent.

    “I think he’s been someone who cares very deeply about this community,” said Tran, 38. “We’ve been given the opportunity for people in this district to vote for someone who has the same progressive values they share and who will stand up for them.”

    Tran said she entered the race believing it could be a close election.

    “But now it’s really competitive,” she said. “I’m really excited to be in the race.”

    I know Tilly personally — she was amazing during 2012 for Obama — our former OFA organizer is running her campaign; delighted to hear she’s running; and Kathy, whom I don’t know, literally lives in my former neighborhood. Heard that the ladies on my block are very excited about supporting her and have done some house parties. So it’s all good.

  77. 77.

    Steeplejack

    @lamh36:

    I sincerely hope the party is getting more out of this tour than just this bullshit…smh…they look ridiculous…

    What you said. Perez came across as very lame on whichever MSNBC show he was on last night. Tonight he was no better with Chris Hayes, plus he was sitting next to Bernie, who was spouting the usual “burn down the Democratic Party to save it” stuff. (Some of that was clips of Bernie, but still.)

    This is not a good product launch. “It totally sucks and we need to completely change it, but let’s do a road show to talk that up.”

  79. 79.

    SFAW

    @JPL:

    I live in Roswell.

    Maybe the aliens (i.e., the UFO-type) registered as Ds, and voted for Ossoff?

    Oh, you’re in the worng Roswell. Never mind.

  82. 82.

    Elie

    @Quinerly:

    Those of us involved in re-building our local organizations cannot afford to dis Bernie openly — in our rural area, we need all the Democrats/progressives on our side and here in WA state, Bernie was very important in rural northwest WA. So we have to keep redirecting everyone to look at the bigger picture and keep nice smiles in place.

    Bernie’s followers have some of the same cultish outlook that the Trumpists have. There is no logic or rationality that reaches the deep emotions they hold. Its all we can do to keep them more or less on the topic because in two seconds we are back re-litigating how Hillary and the DNC screwed Bernie. That is not a detour that we can afford to take but trust me, we will be handling these folks with kid gloves and soft tones from now on until we can groom some sort of replacement. These are white men (mostly) and some women and they truly have the look of and sometimes sound like a cult. They are not thinking about the same things as we are. They are wounded and looking for revenge of some sort. That energy has to be redirected to something positive that will benefit us or they will get lost again “counting coup” on those of us they think betrayed Saint Bernie. This instead of figuring out our messaging and picking candidates to run against the red horkers …

  83. 83.

    Miss Bianca

    @planetjanet: thumbs up! “Inch, by inch, row by row, gonna make this garden grow…”

    @Elie: Ugh, this is all too true out here, too. I am so FUCKING SICK of Wilmer Whitenuss, I could scream. On my FB feed tonight is a guy I remember from college, talking about how Democrats everywhere just love the notion of Bernie telling us how corrupt we are. I can’t help pushing back, just because I’m a contrarian asshole. I guess I just have to say to these folks, at some point: “You know what? You’re crapping on POC, black women in particular, when you talk this kind of shit. Fuck y’all.”

    They absolutely will not get where I’m coming from, at all.

  86. 86.

    planetjanet

    @David Anderson: Thanks to everyone for the kudos. The entire state helped us win this local race. I also had people calling me from out of state doing GOTV. It was always fun to tell them I had already voted for Jackie absentee and to keep up the calls. Blue Virginia says we were outspent 7 to 1. Our opponent was a current Delegate. He may have been running for this office, because his own re-election did not look good. Hope this link works:

  87. 87.

    JPL

    The council returns are really late. Where I was today Hillary lost by ten to fifteen percent, so that means a runoff for Jon. Roswell had both a council runoff and the 6th turnout race. I for one, hope that turnout is lower here. Ossoff needs to improve the DeKalb numbers in order to win next time, though.

  88. 88.

    Quinerly

    @Elie:
    Not in the mood for a lecture on fucking BS and his followers. I stated my feelings and info about an excerpt from a book that “The Hill” highlighted today. Fuck Bernie Sanders and his obnoxious followers.

  89. 89.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @patroclus:

    50% in – Ossoff at 50%.

    Now 51% in – Ossoff at 51%.

    Wait, so when 100% of the precincts are in, Ossoff will be at 100%? I like this statistics stuff you younguns keep talking about.

    (Full disclosure: I am not a mathematician.)

  93. 93.

    divF

    @SiubhanDuinne: This is reminiscent of the standard joke about trying to rush a project by increasing the staffing: if it takes a woman nine months to bear a child, can’t you put three women on it and cut the time down to three months ?

  97. 97.

    Elie

    @Miss Bianca:

    I get you, totally. Again, we NEED them and they make up a significant proportion of the local “party” leaders in the rural and northwestern areas, so there is no escape. Again, the MO is to keep them focused on what we need to be doing cause otherwise, if the conversation lags, we are back in Hillary/DNC wars. As I was saying, NO LOGIC PENETRATES — no facts (other than what they already believe). They have to be outflanked and I worry that they will always be this way as long as Bernie is on the national scene in some way. Sheesh. Bad enough Trump won but now we have this dude up in our grill for the foreseeable future, draining energy to come up with a comprehensive plan for the future that isn’t all about hating the billyonaires and destroying the banking system..

  100. 100.

    efgoldman

    @Elie:

    That energy has to be redirected to something positive that will benefit us or they will get lost again “counting coup” on those of us they think betrayed Saint Bernie.

    Serious question. Are they worth the effort? They likely aren’t going to vote for any Democrat unless it’s one Saint Wilmer publicly kisses on the forehead after the Democrat kisses his ass. The best thing might be for them to get discouraged and stay home – and it really hurts to say that.

  103. 103.

    JPL

    @SiubhanDuinne: Not really. Some sprinkles and light rain in a few areas. DeKalb had downpours and I wonder if that suppressed Ossoff vote there. He did better than Hillary but by a slim margin.

  105. 105.

    Yarrow

    @Steeplejack:

    Perez came across as very lame on whichever MSNBC show he was on last night. Tonight he was no better with Chris Hayes, plus he was sitting next to Bernie, who was spouting the usual “burn down the Democratic Party to save it” stuff. (Some of that was clips of Bernie, but still.)

    This is not a good product launch. “It totally sucks and we need to completely change it, but let’s do a road show to talk that up.”

    GAH. I was hoping Perez would be better than that. Maybe we should have a letter writing campaign that pushes Perez to campaign with better Dems like Maxine Waters, as someone suggested above.

    I also hope B’s Russian connections get brought up during the hearings and indictments and that damps down some of the enthusiasm for him.

  107. 107.

    Steve in the ATL

    @JPL:

    His weakness is North Fulton where I live and Roswell, Alpharetta and Johns Creek are out.

    I can confirm that Ossoff received at least three votes in Johns Creek. Hopefully the wife, daughter, and I were not the only ones here voting for him!

    I’m also enjoying the results with a glass of red. Shiraz, just to mix things up a bit.

  108. 108.

    bemused senior

    Wilmer may be kin to Lieberman. They don’t have the same message but the personality is very similar.

  110. 110.

    Elie

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Listen, the luxury of “having it with Bernie”, comes from not worrying about whether you can bring enough of the progressives together in our legislative district to elect critical positions in the state legislature and yes, school boards. You are way too smart to not know how important that is and how sometimes we have to swallow some shit to” keep the thing togetha” to get our thing done. I frankly cannot stand Bernie, but I sure do see that the WA state legislature needs a few more Democrats and it aint gonna be easy out here in a red district without bringing ALL the Dems along.

  111. 111.

    Ruckus

    @efgoldman:
    Seems like we are still inviting him. And it pisses me off.
    @lamh36:

    BS seems to dislike the Dem party almost as much as he disliked Repubs.

    He is a crazy old man with the beginnings of a few not unreasonable ideas. But he hates anyone who doesn’t agree with him 100%. So yes, that would insure that he’d dislike Dems and Rethugs about equally. Which he continues to prove every time he opens his mouth. And the DNC seems to be enthralled with him. So the Democratic candidate who won the popular vote gets nothing and the person who worked endlessly trying to cause her to lose gets air time courtesy of the DNC. Is there something fundamentally wrong with Perez and Ellison?

  113. 113.

    SFAW

    Does Fulton County have automobiles? And roads? Asking because their reporting percentage has been stuck at 16 percent for the last 40-plus minutes.

    Yeah, I know, I know: it’s those danged memory cards that they have to transport to FSB Headquarters — they sprouted legs and were playing “catch me” with the elections officials transporting them. Or maybe they were all grabbed by a flock of ospreys on the hunt?

    Just getting a little tired of having to wait three days to get the results.

  114. 114.

    planetjanet

    @Another Scott: Clerk of the Court may sound like a small office, but it is important. The previous Clerk, who passed away suddenly, had attempted to refuse to issue marriage licenses for same sex couples for a time. These local offices can make an impact.

  115. 115.

    Elie

    @efgoldman:

    I wouldn’t say that they are “worth it” — but numbers wise, we NEED them. So yes, they are worth it. Please understand, they represent a sizable group up here in the hinterlands. Hillary was boss down in the Seattle and suburbs, but up here, Bernie ran the table. She won our area so enough Bernie folks did vote for her and Hilz won WA state, but her loss has resurrected all this old shit that we have no way past. Our hopefully good local candidates will hopefully change the conversation, but we don’t have them to talk about yet, and our legislative district org is new and trying to get on its feet, so we need everybody…

  116. 116.

    Quinerly

    @schrodingers_cat:
    I said the same thing prior to 2012 election when the asshole was waiving his arms around calling for Pres Obama to be primaried. “Who is this ill kept freak?” I never trusted him and quite frankly can see more charm in Trump years ago than ever in BS. That all talk, talk, talk story about the commune years ago sums up BS. Everyone else doing the work and BS just sitting around running his mouth.

  117. 117.

    JPL

    @Steve in the ATL: I was waiting for you to weigh in. I was at one of the larger polling places and turnout was crazy. I knew that wasn’t good news.
    It still hasn’t reported.

  118. 118.

    Anya

    @Quinerly: Me too. I cannot stand him. I am directing most of my undiminished anger towards him. I remember feeling desolate and incredulous the day after the election. And thinking that we all just have to get up tomorrow and live our lives, but not knowing how. I swear, the first person who came to my mind was BS, followed by Comey. My anger towards him has not lessened.

  121. 121.

    patroclus

    This is glacially slow! Don’t those Georgians know that we’re waiting on them just to do some counting! It’s like waiting for the Falcons to score in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl!

  122. 122.

    JPL

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: You can pull up a District 6 map. North Fulton is a large chunk of it and continues into DeKalb and some Cobb. The NYTimes was correct that Cobb is no longer the force it was because of demographic changes. I can’t believe that my area still supports the asshole.

  123. 123.

    Yarrow

    @Elie: I get this. I think there are some targeted uses for B.S. Maybe Perez should take him on a tour of places he won–like your area in WA. Maybe do one national news show with him. Use him where he was popular. Just don’t let him dominate the discussion. There’s no reason he needs to go on a national tour. Bring in local Dems. Bring out other Dems who could use the national exposure. Mix it up.

  124. 124.

    Steve in the ATL

    @JPL: when we voted on Friday, the line skewed old and white, which is of course bad for sane people. One old white women was even highlighting passages in a paperback book of gospels while standing in the two hour line.

  125. 125.

    SFAW

    @efgoldman:

    Everybody’s reporting looks stuck at 53% counted.

    If only Buddy were still around — he’d have them at 110 percent in no time flat.

    (Yeah, I realize — well, at least I think it was the case — election fraud was not a Cianci thing. )

  126. 126.

    BlueDWarrior

    @patroclus: As a Saints fan, I will register my eternal delight at that 4th Quarter performance. Yes I know it resulted in Tom Terrific winning another SB, but in the end the success of the Patriots aren’t terribly germane to my fandom.

  128. 128.

    Lizzy L

    CNN is reporting that with 72% of the vote counted, Ossof has 50.4% of it. Even if he doesn’t stay above 50%, he’s made a hella good showing.

  129. 129.

    themann1086

    We’ve got 99 precincts but returns from none

    ETA as I publish this more precincts come in. Ruined a great joke.

  130. 130.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @patroclus:

    It’s like waiting for the Falcons to score in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl!

    Okay, that’s just gratuitously cruel.

  131. 131.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Lizzy L: I’ve had enough of moral victories. If there is a runoff, Karen fucking Handel will be the heavy favorite. She would be perfect for the trump kakistocracy.

  132. 132.

    JPL

    @Steve in the ATL: I’m getting reports from a gathering for the council member I supported. The results are slow. What I can figure out is that there are about 25,000 votes in Roswell still out.

  133. 133.

    Ruckus

    @Miss Bianca:
    Thing is they are crapping on themselves as well. BS has zero chance to do any of the crap he wants/wanted to do. Zero. He doesn’t even seem to understand who writes the laws that he wants to sign. And he “works” there.
    He’s worse than the crazy uncle you have to watch at family dinners so he doesn’t wander off with any of the kids. He’s your dad, who could leave you with an operating business that you’ve actually run for him for the last 20 yrs but he’s such a fucking lunatic these days that he sold all the machines that were used to make the product you sell. For 5 cents on the dollar. And then bragged about all the money he made doing it.

  136. 136.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Lizzy L:

    Even if he doesn’t stay above 50%, he’s made a hella good showing.

    Thank you. Yes. In a field of 17 candidates, FFS.

  141. 141.

    amk

    fuck fulton. meanwhile,

    BREAKING: Trump administration certifies Iran complying with nuclear deal, extends sanctions relief but says review underway.— The Associated Press (@AP) April 19, 2017

    @AP Every time I see the words BREAKING, Nuclear, and Trump, I damn near shit my pants????— Justin Williams (@eheisback) April 19, 2017

  142. 142.

    patroclus

    @Steve in the ATL: After what she did to the Komen Foundation, she deserves to be beaten badly. (Needless to say, still at 53% in – just like an hour ago.)

    OT – I DVR’d the Coen Bro’s “A Serious Man” yesterday and am watching it now. It’s a riot!

  143. 143.

    Yarrow

    If there’s a runoff that’s June 20. I’m expecting the FBI indictments to have dropped by then. Tom Price may well be caught up in that. Trump and his family and cabal certainly will. It’ll be interesting to see if that has any effect on the runoff. Hope a runoff isn’t needed, though.

  144. 144.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Elie: True, I have the advantage of living in the Soviet of Track Town, but still the rural areas keep electing Rethugs who WILL fuck them over in favor of their cronies.

  145. 145.

    Mnemosyne

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Karen Handel tanked the Susan G Komen Foundation by trying to cut off mammogram funding to Planned Parenthood.

    There will be commercials talking about how Handel doesn’t care about other women dying of breast cancer and just wants to make money off her dead sister. It ain’t gonna be pretty.

  146. 146.

    patroclus

    54% in – Ossoff still at 50%.

    (One precinct every hour, at this rate we’ll know by Sunday).

  147. 147.

    Anya

    @Steve in the ATL: I’ve been reading that if there was a run off, Dems were hoping that she’ll be the GOP candidate. She’s beatable because of her scandals and she’s generally a weak candidate.

  148. 148.

    Elie

    @Yarrow:

    Believe me, I was not arguing for him to have some national presence. I was just speaking to indulging our local Bernie cultists — Nope on the national thing. I agree.

  149. 149.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Origuy:

    All the previous election cycles I have worked have been in Gwinnett County (which wasn’t a factor in today’s voting, as it lies outside the 6th). But I’m spoiled. Gwinnett has probably the most open, transparent, honest voting process in all of metro Atlanta, which probably means in all of the state of Georgia. Fulton is probably the worst, in my limited experience.

  150. 150.

    JPL

    @patroclus: Roswell is starting to come in. One of the large precincts that I was at is starting to report. I know this, cuz of the council race and they are able to get the info. No idea how Jon did, but it sure didn’t look good when I was there. The candidate that I supported for council did outstanding though.
    I promise that I will not get out the vote on June 20th though.

  152. 152.

    weaselone

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Thank you. Yes. In a field of 17 candidates, FFS.

    The problem is that beside Ossoff, Dems and independents combine for slightly less than 1% of the total vote. It’s certain that all or nearly all of the Republicans will rally to the Republican candidate in the runoff. If he doesn’t crack 50% here, there’s a good chance he doesn’t crack it in the runoff either.

  153. 153.

    JPL

    @Yarrow: There were lots of Ossoff sign wavers where I was at, and I mentioned that I thought Handel would be easier to beat. We like our white hair repub guys here, and I also mentioned that Trump had to do something stupid. She felt better after the second statement, cuz she figured that would happen.

  156. 156.

    patroclus

    @JPL: Roswell is SO cool – great space alien museum! But you’re probably talking about Georgia…

  157. 157.

    Ruckus

    @Mnemosyne:
    That’s not very nice, that picture of Bert and Ernie. Equating them to BS. Low fucking blow.
    I dealt with someone with dementia for 20 yrs. It ain’t pretty. It’s why I say that drumpf is to me showing signs of dementia. But I don’t think BS is. What he is, is a fucking burned out hippy who is just chock full of his own bullshit.

  158. 158.

    Yarrow

    @Elie: Politics is local, as you’ve pointed out. In your area you may have to indulge the B.S. crowd. In other areas they may be more easily absorbed into Dem politics.

    He’s got Russian connections that will come out. Campaign manager as well as tech manager. Also the Russians used disinformation and “fake news” targeting the far left on Facebook, etc., as well as fake B-bots on Twitter to talk him up well after his sell-by date and to take advantage and increase divisions in the Dem party.

    I think that sort of thing will come out once the indictments are issued and hearings start. I hope it shakes up some of the B.S. fans. Not all will believe it, but some may.

  159. 159.

    Lizzy L

    @Steve in the ATL: Oh, I’m with you there. I’m not rejoicing in a moral victory, I’m thinking about the run-off and about 2018. If Ossoff doesn’t win outright, I hope he keeps it close. And scares the shit out of the Rs.

  160. 160.

    Mnemosyne

    @Ruckus:

    Aw, come on:

    “I think it is actually helpful–sometimes I forget how many jigawatts I need to power the Delorean. But then I see Uncle Bernie and it comes back to me.” – Jennifer

    ETA: I think they’re just saying he has the hair of a dementia patient, not that he has dementia.

  162. 162.

    SFAW

    BREAKING!!! MUST CREDIT DRUDGE!!!!!
    FULTON COUNTY STILL AT 16 PERCENT OF PRECINCTS REPORTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  163. 163.

    Elie

    @Mnemosyne:

    Ugh…. It is VERY hard. Its the deaf as a post illogic of their going on and on and on about how Bernie was deprived of fundraiser lists, and that their “views” were not respected by the Democrats..

    Trust me — its all I can do to just be quiet. I just hope its worth it and we can bring some sort of approach together and some decent candidates…

  164. 164.

    Bupalos

    @weaselone: I don’t know Georgia politics but that’s pretty unlikely to be true. Every campaign has some percentage that is in it for the candidate and the candidate alone….think friends, family, acquaintances. And in a primate campaign sometimes enemies are made that stick. No telling what happens in the runoff, it will be different dynamics altogether.

  175. 175.

    efgoldman

    @SFAW:

    election fraud was not a Cianci thing.

    Nope. State conviction for assault (whacked his ex-wife’s boyfriend upside the head with a piece of firewood); federal was for old fashioned graft (I forget what the official charge was).

  177. 177.

    Elie

    @Yarrow:

    I could give a fuck about Bernie. I want to get back on the grid for our leg district, the State and then ultimately nationally. I am happy if we can make him a non factor — however. I do not want 2 seconds of attention paid to him even in the event that he is caught with the Russians, which they would just twist to make the Dems not better than Trump. I just want him to stop being a factor and to disappear. He is 74 and hopefully will slow down some soon…

  178. 178.

    amk

    The first 100 days of Trump: Tomi loses her show, Milo's book is cancelled, O’Reilly is off the air and Alex Jones apologizes for Pizzagate.— T. Becket Adams (@BecketAdams) April 19, 2017

    Also, the IRS stripped Richard Spencer's non-profit of its tax-exempt status.— T. Becket Adams (@BecketAdams) April 19, 2017

    small mercies.

  179. 179.

    Mnemosyne

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The tricky part is that all of that stuff is also symptomatic of ADHD, which other people have suspected for years he has (there’s a reason a spoiled, pampered rich kid like Trump ended up in military school — it was a common “solution” in the 1950s for ADHD boys).

    I’m assuming he kept calling Paul Ryan “Ron Paul” by mistake and not “Ron Ryan”?

  180. 180.

    efgoldman

    @Ruckus:

    Thing is they are crapping on themselves as well. BS has zero chance to do any of the crap he wants/wanted to do. Zero.

    As i said from about a month into the primaries: the Wilmerbots haven’t the first fucking idea how elections and politics work.
    It carried right thru to the convention and their idiot embrace of idiot Jill Stein.
    They still don’t have the first fucking idea.
    Whatever else happens, even if he’s not in the home drooling all over himself by then, he will not come as close to the nomination in 2020 as he did last year – which wasn’t close. in the end, either. .

  181. 181.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Mnemosyne: I think, based on the published description of his parents and their behavior, including towards him, that he was somewhere between emotionally neglected to emotionally abused.

  182. 182.

    Ruckus

    @Mnemosyne:
    OK, that’s just crazy talk!
    It is true the physical resemblance is there. But still, Bert and Ernie sound a lot smarter and have accomplished a lot more in their much shorter life times than he has.

  183. 183.

    Elie

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Yes maybe but tell me what hat has to do with getting people elected in local and state races? Ok — we definitely need fundraiser lists appropriate to our local and state candidates, but what does re-litigating past grievances do besides fighting each other — again?

  185. 185.

    JPL

    Well I have good news.. As many know the mayor of Roswell is a bigot and has campaigned openly against the person I wanted for council. He didn’t get his wish. Wahoo!

    Mayor Wood was quoted in the New Yorker questioning Ossoff’s name.

  186. 186.

    Mnemosyne

    @Adam L Silverman:

    That, too. Kids with disabilities (including learning disabilities like ADHD) are frequently the targets of parental abuse or neglect, and Trump’s dad sounds like a right asshole.

    There’s also a good chance he’s dyslexic — it’s so often comorbid with ADHD that my ADHD doctor was a little surprised I don’t have it.

  187. 187.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    @amk:

    Somehow I’m especially pleased that Milo and Tomi, photogenic rage-pigs, have gotten slapped down. I hope it hurts, that it lasts and humbles them.

  188. 188.

    patroclus

    Words of wisdom from an elderly Jewish rabbi: “When the truth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies, don’t you want somebody to love, don’t you need somebody to love, wouldn’t you love somebody to love, you better find somebody to love.” (from A Serious Man).

  191. 191.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @Elie:

    what does re-litigating past grievances do besides fighting each other — again?

    Nothing, but that’s on them. I think you’re right trying to deal with them and focus their energies in the short term, but at some point you just have to assume they’re lost causes if they continue making everything about Wilmer.

  193. 193.

    JPL

    I’ve been so conflicted because supporting a local candidate and getting out the vote in a conservative district, sucks.
    just saying.
    Fulton should be released fairly quickly because the council race is already decided, although not reported on the AJC or secretary of state site.

  200. 200.

    Ruckus

    @efgoldman:
    I was willing to give him a shot, in the primary. But he lost that. And then he not only didn’t get on board, he tried to hijack the election and still make it about HIM. And he’s still doing the same crap, even with dumpf’s maladministration in place. He’s a clueless old fuck who shouldn’t be getting one second of what limited democratic air time there is.

    And I do understand not having Hillary on the road, while she won the pop vote, she did lose the election. And I do not blame her in any way for that, sure her campaign may have made some missteps along the way (Coulda, woulda, shoulda) but she ran a good campaign.

  202. 202.

    Elizabelle

    @efgoldman: OK. What tired him out so much?

    Anyhoo, best to you, Mrs. efg, and the grandbaby and family. I should nap myself; it’s O Dark Hundred here; just could not sleep.

    Ane whatever the outcome, props to Jon Ossoff for running such a good campaign. I hope he triumphs.

  203. 203.

    amk

    From our onsite reporter: Fulton County is having technical difficulties. They are on the phone with tech support.I'm not joking.— Drew McCoy (@_Drew_McCoy_) April 19, 2017

    yup. the ratfucking is on.

  205. 205.

    Ruckus

    @Mnemosyne:

    Trump’s dad sounds like a right asshole.

    The fruit didn’t fall far from that tree. IOW yes he was a first class asshole. In my book an Asshole Deluxe, gold plated division.

  209. 209.

    JPL

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: The other person running for council already conceded. They are adding up precincts which means the results are in, at least in Roswell. They need an old fashion adding machine.
    Tomorrow I’m going to look at the polling sites and see how Handel did in my area.

  212. 212.

    patroclus

    I wonder what % of the precincts in Fulton are reporting – I sure wish I could find a site that would tell me…

  218. 218.

    Yarrow

    @Adam L Silverman: Thanks. Not sure why you linked me specifically, but it’s interesting. I’ve read a couple of people whose specialty is brain issues or dementia and they all say similar things. It’s pretty scary for us as a country.

  219. 219.

    patroclus

    @Lizzy L: And Jorma (something or another) – another A Serious Man reference. That Coen Bros movie is one of the best dark comedies I’ve seen – just hilarious!

  222. 222.

    efgoldman

    @Ruckus:

    I do understand not having Hillary on the road

    But there are dozens of dynamic DEMOCRATIC senators and congresscritters who could’ve traveled with Perez. Or if any one of them couldn’t have committed the time, they could have tag teamed it.

  224. 224.

    patroclus

    @Lizzy L: Yeah, I know – I’ve seen him in concert here in Chi-town. But in the movie, the rabbi doesn’t even try to pronounce his name and the Bar Mitzvah boy just smiles.

  226. 226.

    dww44

    @Adam L Silverman: I’ve been complaining about our voting machines here for years. We have to get more Democrats elected to the state legislature and into state wide office to have any hope of them ditching the out of date and very hackable with no paper trail Diebold voting machines.

  227. 227.

    Yarrow

    @Adam L Silverman: No worries! I thought you might have meant someone mentioning dementia. It’s still interesting. I like reading the experts’ take on it. A lot can be determined from watching him over time.

  228. 228.

    mai naem mobile

    I think Sanders just likes the attention . Think about it, he’s from Vermont where getting a crowd of a couple of thousand people is a big deal. Hes not from an important purple state, not a big powerful blue state like NY,not an important primary state like NH. I didn’t really have a strong opinion on Sanders until it became obvious he wasn’t going to win and didn’t drop out,and at some event Jane Sanders tried to say something at the podium and he basically waved off the podium. That really turned me off him. He just came across like a sexist old fart.

  230. 230.

    dww44

    @JPL: Re the slow results I would NOT put anything past Secretary of State Brian Kemp. Withholding results from the more likely GOP leaning precincts would be something he’d do. After all, he dismissed complaints about the integrity of the voting machines and early on pooh-poohed the very idea of a strong Democratic showing in the 6th.

  232. 232.

    cynthia ackerman

    @Adam L Silverman:

    That’s pretty intetesting.

    The video with him autographing hats handed to him by individuals and tossing the signed hats to assembled masses is pretty f-ing odd, too.

  233. 233.

    Ruckus

    @efgoldman:
    Absolutely. We aren’t short of decent people. Why do we have to put up with an asshole trying his damndest to fuck us over?

  234. 234.

    Ruckus

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Checked it out.
    My very non professional opinion seems to be right on the money.
    Both my parents and one grandmother had dementia while living with us. Mom was not afflicted for a long a time like my dad, gram also only about 4-5 yrs. Different reasons and some different affects because of that, but in many ways a lot of similarities.

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