He looks embarrassed! I know because that’s how I look after haircuts too. I go in as a hippie chick in search of a trim and come out looking like a goddamned real estate lady! And in Steve’s case, it’s involuntary.
Is there room for dog news, since Ms. Lily made it into Steve’s photo op?
Yesterday was an auspicious day in my dog’s life, after six months of trying, Ms. Maggie caught her first pigeon. She pounced and pinned the pigeon with her front paws. I yanked her off before she should kill it. She literally pranced all the way home.
my furry one Ocean hates her haircuts. Next time she needs one I have to make sure the vets tranq her and that they wear +6 leather armor on their arms.
10.
sukabi
So do you have to shave that püssŷ before you grab it John?
Drumpf has ruined EVERYTHING!
11.
LAO
@Betty Cracker: I think he looks regretful. Like why have you done this to me? But not angry about the haircut, just really disappointed in John.
12.
Yarrow
Lily! Love her so much. Steve looks embarrassed, but he’s ever so patient while Lily makes sure he’s still the same cat.
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AdamK
Doesn’t look like he’s exactly starving. Was Lily convinced it was still her little brother?
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Adam L Silverman
@Betty Cracker: Try asking for Pharma-Barbie next time…
15.
geg6
And you tell me that Lovey is fat.
Lily is a love and Steve actually looks not too scary there. Floofy even. In a nice way.
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germy
To me, it looks like Lily is whispering in Steve’s ear.
Something something tonight’s the night we get Cole something something sounds like a plan.
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ruemara
Steve is wearing a velvet suit. And a Lily sighting!
I’ve been working on video edits (round 7 – these people simply are unaware of the copy they wrote & approved of) and my trip to Philthydelphia. Is there nightlife around the Convention Center? Should I avoid it? I don’t smoke or drink, really. And I’m considering heading to the Rodin Museum or revisitng the Barnes Foundation on my one free day.
Not cat related, but I stumbled upon this story about the internment of Americans of Japanese descent who were imprisoned in WW2. Some neighbors stepped up to help.
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germy
Shaving Steve down to a military buzz may seem humiliating, but thing of all the fur he won’t be coughing up.
22.
hovercraft
I don’t know what’s wrong with you Front Pagers claiming huge things are tiny, ahem, one of you claimed to be quite dainty recently, but I digress, that’s 25 ponds of feline magnificence, Steve looks beautiful, and he knows it.
@LAO:
Ha, Maggie should be proud, but those City pigeons are very sow and arrogant, they think that they own the City and so kudos on her first catch and release, but till she catches one out in “real America” she’s still an amateur.
I don’t know what’s wrong with you Front Pagers claiming huge things are tiny, ahem, one of you claimed to be quite dainty recently…
Photographs add 10 pounds!
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JPL
@LAO: Well my dog catches field mice, and then tosses them in the area. I discovered a few mice near my backdoor, and assumed a cat had climbed the fence. Then I caught him in the act.
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lurker dean
damn, 25 pounds is big. our 17 pounder seems big, i can’t imagine adding another 50% to her.
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germy
@JPL: A few years back a mouse got into our house. I found him lying flat on his back. My cat sat staring intently at him, but she didn’t touch him. I picked him up by his tail and dropped him outside and he ran away. He had been playing dead for our cat, who apparently lacked the kill instinct. She had the hunting instinct, but she wouldn’t finish the job.
While street-preaching in Hong Kong, Angela Cummings pulled out an Easter Bunny and began screaming about anyone who took the symbols of the holiday seriously.
How many people do Easter Egg hunts? Are you aware that Easter bunnies don’t even hatch eggs? How stupid is that? But, yet, this mall has chocolate eggs all over it! And you’re doing like this to me [makes universal “crazy” gesture] like I’m crazy! Bunnies. Don’t. Poop. Eggs. And I’m crazy?!VIDEO
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trollhattan
Media Matters has a Trump Golf Tracker going. To date: 14 Trump golf dates versus [drumroll] 0 for Obama on the same date. They also have some fun batting around the Daily Caller for their golfing Obama fixation.
@JPL: Quite frankly, I don’t know who was more surprised; me, Maggie or the bird. I expect, that since she is part beagle and terrier (of the pitbull persuasion), she’d be a decent hunter if she didn’t live in NYC.
He doesn’t look chubby; he looks seriously overweight. I currently have two cats — one is at her perfect weight and always has been. She’s a self-regulating eater and has never had a weight problem. The other cat has an autoimmune disease and is taking prednisone (a corticosteroid) for life. Since she started taking prednisone she has put on a lot of weight (a common side effect of long-term steroid use), but she doesn’t look as overweight as Steve looks.
Please, John, put Steve on a diet. You seem to have a problem with having obese felines and I’m guessing it isn’t all their fault. Having Steve lose weight will be good for him and his old age will likely be longer, healthier, and happier.
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Barbara
@hovercraft: Around 10 years ago a very frustrated minister decided to merge the pagan and Christian elements of Easter by conducting a mock crucifixion of someone dress up as the Easter bunny. Other than permanently confusing the children in the audience, he managed to outrage a lot of their parents.
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lurker dean
@ruemara: the convention center is right next to chinatown which, generally speaking, is alive at night. i’m not that familiar with the other kinds of nightlife in that area (except for knowing that the tracadero theater is right there also), but walk a couple of blocks south to chestnut street and there are plenty of bars and restaurants. walk a few blocks east and you’ll be in old city with lots of nightlife. west of the convention center is mostly the business area, and north of it is a highway and industrial spaces being reno’d into condos. the convention center is also next to reading terminal market, a good place for lunch.
the barnes foundation is pretty great, though the big museum is also quite good also.
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Waldo
Poor Steve. Looks like his head’s been inexpertly photoshopped onto the body of a walrus. Sad.
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laura
Big Kiki is Big!
Also, too, I can see why you’d miss Lily.
Steve looks mortified that you took his picture without his fur on. Revenge will be served cold at 3 am. I would sleep with one eye open, if I was you. He is pretty pudgy wudgy.
@ruemara: I visited the Rodin Museum in Paris (Rodin’s house) and the Rodin in Philadelphia has been on my list of must see museums for a while. I have mixed feelings about the Barnes Collection. I am sure the art is great but the controversy over its relocation was truly ugly.
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Jim, Foolish Literalist
@hovercraft: Christian Preacher Yells at Crowd for Embracing Easter Symbols: “Bunnies Don’t Poop Eggs!”
and so have I ever prayed to the Easter platypus
(Has Doc Silverman addressed the air craft carrier cock up?
WASHINGTON — As worries deepened last week about whether North Korea would conduct a missile test, the White House declared that ordering an American aircraft carrier into the Sea of Japan would send a powerful deterrent signal and give President Trump more options in responding to the North’s provocative behavior.
The problem was, the carrier, the Carl Vinson, and the four other warships in its strike force were at that very moment sailing in the opposite direction, to take part in joint exercises with the Australian Navy in the Indian Ocean, 3,500 miles southwest of the Korean Peninsula.
If it’s a walk back, I’m glad of it, but will Fareed Zakaria unpresidential his man DT now?)
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manyakitty
FWIW, we have three cats, all around 8 1/2-9 years old. Manya (of nym) maintains a reasonably constant 8+ lbs. Heisenberg and Schrodinger are littermates, and from appearances, have the same father, too, (but who knows?). Schrodinger is a comfortable 12-13 lbs, but Heisenberg won’t drop under 16, no matter what we do. They don’t free feed, I developed a meal time ritual that involves him completing 11 “jumping jacks” before he eats (22 total), while the other two have first shot at the more calorically dense dry food. I run them around with toys and the laser mousie most evenings. Some cats are just floofy.
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hovercraft
@LAO: The crazies chicken sure are coming home to roost.
Trump supporter asks a federal court to hold the president liable for any damages stemming from a lawsuit filed by protesters who attended a Kentucky campaign stop.
By Kenneth P. Vogel
04/17/17 06:18 PM EDT
……….Matthew Heimbach claims in his federal court filing that he “acted pursuant to the directives and requests of Donald J. Trump and Donald J. Trump for President” and that, if he’s found liable for damages, “any liability must be shifted to one or both of them.”…………
If you’ve seen the Barnes, you probably don’t need to see it again unless there’s something you really loved. The Philadelphia Art Museum is one of the country’s best, and several years ago they opened up a new building around the corner (a gorgeous former insurance company headquarters) where they do some interesting stuff that doesn’t fit in the main building. Also hard to go wrong with Rodin.
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lurker dean
@Barbara: i appreciate the controversy but i have to say that the foundation did a great job of replicating the salon-like presentation of the art in a manner the dr. would approve of. if it wasn’t in philly.
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Wallis Lane
@schrodingers_cat: Also popular is the Downward Facing Bread Loaf.
IMO, the “cock-up” re the Carl Vinson group (and its supposed Kim-cowing “mission”) was more to be laid at the feet of the White House and the media (I know, what a shocker!). The Navy, apparently, was just sending the ships where they were going to be going anyway: the Administration was, as usual, just shooting its mouth off for “tough”-talk PR, and the media (sadly, as usual) just jumped on the rah-rah bandwagon without checking into the facts. Imagine my surprise….
…………..The measure, dubbed the “Blue Lives Matter Law,” makes it an aggravating circumstance for someone to knowingly assault an off-duty law-enforcement officer out of malice because of the officer’s employment. It also creates a new felony charge for attempting to take an off-duty officer’s gun, handcuffs or other weapon.
It’s already a higher-level crime to assault an on-duty police officer……………
“This is a bill that is searching for a problem when there is not one,” he said.
Under existing law, aggravated-assault charges can be leveled if the defendant knowingly committed the crime against a peace officer, constable, firefighter, paramedic, health-care practitioner, teacher, prosecutor, judicial officer or public defender.
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Barbara
@lurker dean: I don’t have a firm opinion and I honestly don’t know whether the foundation really tried to keep the art where it was supposed to stay, on the campus of a historically black college. I know that it was easier to raise money for a location in Philadelphia and many more people see it now than before.
@manyakitty: Except for we have seen the pictures of Steve when Cole first got him. He’s not naturally this fat. Cole got him this way period.
@TriassicSands: I’m thrilled for someone else to pick up the flag on the overfeeding of his cats. I’ve tried for years and gave up long ago. He did start to trim down Steve for a while and it was obvious as he started looking a bit healthier but he’s definitely back to full weight now. You’ll not find much support in these comboxes for Steve being fat, to put it plainly. You’ll get a lots of excuse making and you’ll start to realize why veterinarians have so many cats clients that are obese and the futility of the battle.
I have a cat that naturally trends to the “floofy”. It just takes a bit more work and not making excuses to keep his weight healthy which is why I roll my eyes at those that give the list of all they do and their cat is just naturally fat.
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manyakitty
@RoonieRoo: I’m open to suggestions. He gets regular vet care, and they know how I work with him. We ALL want Heisenberg to lose weight, but here we are.
The art was never on the college campus – it was in a house on the other side of the river from the center of the city. (I think the address may technically have been in Philadelphia, as it was off City Line Avenue aka Route 1. It was Barnes’s own house, IIRC. The college had control of the board that ran the museum and the art school. (All of this was a big middle finger to the Philadelphia establishment, by the way.)
One consequence of the location, which was in a residential neighborhood, was that they had to restrict admission. Also, I think the hours were limited so that the art students could spend time there without nasty visitors poking about. Regardless, it was a tough ticket. My wife and I went once, and it was a pain to get in.
The basic problem was that Barnes didn’t leave enough money to run the museum and art school in perpetuity (though he tried), and so they needed to do something. I’m not really sure the court did the right thing, but at least it insisted on maintaining his original arrangement in the new space, and the move has made the art accessible to a lot more people, which is a good thing.
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glory b
@hovercraft: Don’t all states have similar laws enhancing penalties for attacks against those kind of folks (Pennsylvania includes public transit operators I believe)?
We also have three cats who all eat the same thing with two at normal weights and one who’s a little overweight. It’s a little fraught with the overweight one because she has a medium-serious heart murmur, so we need to keep her weight in the normal range, but we also have to be careful with exercise.
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RoonieRoo
@manyakitty: Let me tell you about my fatty. He got to the point where he couldn’t clean his own bottom. I was in serious denial and kept telling my vet I knew how much he was eating, etc. Yeah, I was lying to myself.
After I watched him struggling to clean his own butt I had the full weight of the guilt hit me like a ton of bricks. So, I started measuring to a fine detail exactly how much food he was getting every day. I raw feed and I had to figure out the kilo calories on that but commercial food would be easy since it’s on the bag, usually. I would ask your vet if he can give you a good number to start with and feed him exactly that. I had to feed my fatty in a room by himself until all the other cats were done. It was a bit maddening and required some shifting of our life for a while but it was worth it.
I got a baby scale and I weighed him every couple of days. You have to be careful with cats that they lose the weight slowly and consistently or you can end up with fatty liver issues. Your vet can tell you how much weight your cat can safely lose a week. I had to cut back food further than I originally thought twice when I started this but I finally found the exact amount of food that would give me the right weekly weight loss.
I went from a cat that couldn’t bath his own butt and wouldn’t play very much at all to a cat that demands play every single day. Now, you are playing with your cat and he’s wanting to play which means you are starting in a waaaaaaaay better place than I started so it won’t take you as long as it took us.
But the answer I learned in my journey with Milo is that it really and truly all comes down to calories. No other answer. So if your kitty isn’t budging from that 16 lbs, it really is the calories are still too high for him. It sucks when they look at you with the “Seriously, that is all I get???” look.
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manyakitty
@RoonieRoo: As far as Steve goes, that’s between Cole and his vet.
I’ve seen plenty of people chronically overfeed their cats, give them garbage food, etc. Please try being less judgmental of people who actually are aware, and try to control portions, add exercise, and so forth.
Same as our cats. We found the three of them in a circle staring at a mouse. Husband somehow got the mouse into a box, put it on the deck, and it scampered away.
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manyakitty
@RoonieRoo: Sure, that’s reasonable. I know about the calorie thing, too. They eat grain free, so that has more calories than “regular” cat food, at least for the dry. I tried some raw diets and they rejected that stuff outright. Right now, the three of them split 1/3 c dry food and a 5 oz. can of wet food, twice a day. Manya gets the best shot at the dry, and by the time Heisenberg is done with his exercises (jumping to tag the wet food spoon), it’s mostly gone. H gets two bites of wet, Schrodinger gets one, and the rest goes into the bowl, along with a can of water. Right now, they also get one lysine treat every morning, too.I haven’t free-fed them since they were kittens. Again, this is all happening under (loose) veterinary supervision. That said, I might try cutting back a little on the dry food, but that ultimately cuts into Manya’s diet, and she’s already a good weight.
@Mnemosyne: So far, we’ve been lucky that Heisenberg’s heart is strong and he’s not tending toward diabetes (yet).
I am so tired of the cat weight police. My slim cat died of cancer at 10 years old. My fat cat (fed exactly the same as the other two) is still going strong at 15. tfu, tfu, tfu, ne sglazit’
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RoonieRoo
@manyakitty: I understand you aren’t itching for a fight. And you, unfortunately, just walked into my big red button that makes me crazy. You really are the exception out there that you are working on the issue. I will work on my instant assumption about commenters.
But, here is my excuse making but for occasionally be a jerk, I’m done with not being judgmental about it in general. These animals are entirely at our mercy for caring for them. I have three veterinarians in my family and I am deep in the dog training world. I get to see the results of people overfeeding their dogs every stinking day.
Due to this I probably will continue to be judgmental because I am constantly having this conversation over and over and over with the exact same people who continue to overfeed their animals and refuse to make changes. I’m also a support system for all my training friends and vets that are having this ad nauseum conversation with the exact same clients year after year.
And since I totally walked the fat pet road myself and realized how wrong I was, I’m probably a bit more judgmental to people that won’t listen.
@glory b:
Most states including Arizona already have harsher penalties for attacking police officers, that was the point the democrats were making, this is gratuitous, just to make a political point that the GOP supports the police unlike those dems who support BLM. If there was a serious need for the law that would be one thing, but they can’t even point at any stats to justify this.
ETA: You are correct that these laws usually include DA’s, bus drivers, etc. but this newly enhanced law is only about the police, which is why it’s been dubbed the “Blue Lives Matter Law”.
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manyakitty
@zhena gogolia: Sorry about the slim baby, but I’m glad the floofy one is happy and healthy! I think, as with people, animals have different body types, and while there’s definitely room for improvement, a high quality diet and plenty of exercise goes a long way.
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RoonieRoo
@zhena gogolia: I’m tired of people that can’t recognize that their obese cat making it to 15 or 18 is just luck or good genetics on the part of the cat. I guess all those life long smokers that lived to 80 are proof that smoking isn’t really unhealthy.
I had no problem keeping cats slim when they went outside during the day. But only one of them made it past age 10 — three disappeared in broad daylight, probably coyotes. This group of three have been indoors, and they get bored with toys in about 5 minutes, so I’m not sure how they’re supposed to get exercise. The two girls never got fat, but Masha developed mast-cell cancer. Slim Sasha and fat Louis are still with us, both hyperthyroid (she developed it a few years before he did) but responding well to medication.
And he would have been dead before age 2 if I hadn’t trapped him and cared for him lovingly all these years. So your guilt-tripping is having no effect.
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lurker dean
@Barbara: interesting, i did some followup and didn’t realize that dr. barnes had provided that lincoln univ would nominate most of the trustees for the foundation.
“Barnes made very specific provisions for what would happen to the collection after his death, giving Lincoln University (the historically black college where Julian Bond’s father, Horace, was then president) the power to nominate most of the trustees to run the foundation.”
though barnes’ reasons may have been less than pure:
“”It was partly because Barnes wanted to put his finger in the eye of people in Philadelphia – ‘Take that! I’m going to put these black people in charge of it!'” Bond said.”
@zhena gogolia: Yeah, all three of mine are fully indoor cats, so their exercise opportunities are limited. That said, we have three floors, counting the basement, so they often move around more than I do.
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RoonieRoo
@manyakitty: Thank you. Sorry I get so riled up on this topic. I honestly don’t think I would get this crazy if I hadn’t gone through what I did with my fatty cat and, before that, my skinny but very diabetic cat. He is how I ended up moving to raw feeding.
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dww44
@Roger Moore: I agree, given that he’d make 2 1/2 of my 15 plus year old tuxedo female.
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RoonieRoo
@zhena gogolia: I’m not trying to guilt trip you. I’m just trying to point out that you are wrong about cat obesity not being a problem for the cats health.
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manyakitty
@RoonieRoo: It makes sense. We love our critters and want them all to be as healthy and happy as possible. Common goals, my friend.
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manyakitty
@manyakitty: This year’s calendar picture of Heisenberg (Nov) doesn’t really show his floof. I’ll try harder next time. ;-)
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lurker dean
@lurker dean: actually, the article notes that barnes venerated the black community and disliked elitists. bond’s characterization made barnes’ motives sound less noble, not anything that barnes said.
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RoonieRoo
@manyakitty: Now can we figure out how to get these 20 lbs off me?
@RoonieRoo: Me too. I know what I have to do but it’s hard to want to, and I need a rain suit of some sort to do the walking I wanted to be doing by now because I live near Seattle.
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RoonieRoo
@opiejeanne: I was doing about 3 miles of walking every day….and then I had a week where I didn’t. Now I’m struggling to get that motivation back and I just keep finding it easy to find everything else in the world to do instead.
Yeah, there are so many and they’re making your like miserable, aren’t they? I second RoonieRoo’s response to you:
I’m tired of people that can’t recognize that their obese cat making it to 15 or 18 is just luck or good genetics on the part of the cat. I guess all those life long smokers that lived to 80 are proof that smoking isn’t really unhealthy.
RoonieRoo sounds informed, genuinely concerned, and thoughtful.
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Bart
Nearly a hundred reactions and not a single person has noticed Thurston is in the picture as well. Look at Lily’s tail, people!
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Ohio Mom
@ruemara: My vote is for Philadelphia’s Magic Gardens but I am a sucker for outsider art.
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Shana
@laura: Loved Art of the Steal. Also managed to make it to the original Barnes building several years ago with Art Historian daughter during the spring break college tour. Good times.
@randy khan: AIRC, the building was built for the collection and was never Barnes’ house.
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Manyakitty
@RoonieRoo: And…I just fed the monsters. Apparently, I already reduced their dry food from 1/3 c to 1/4 c.
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mak
@randy khan: Actually, the old Barnes Foundation was located essentially on a college campus, but not Lincoln U.. It was on the Merion Station side of City Line Ave., next door to an old mansion-turned-dorm, Sullivan Hall, IIRC, basically surrounded by the Saint Joe’s campus.
I lived just down the lane (Lapsley Lane) in another one of the old houses that had been converted to student housing. My friends and I wandered over there frequently when it was open, and were always surprised how accessible (and usually empty) the place was. The Masterpiece-per-square-inch ratio was staggering, to the point where first-time visitors were often heard to comment that the paintings had to be forgeries, since there was simply no way that all of these paintings could belong in this (albeit lovely) building next door the site of our frequent keggers.
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Manyakitty
@TriassicSands: My earlier comment stands on its own. Is Steve fat? Maybe, but what do I know?
I asked for advice about MY cat, and engaged in what passes for a civil discussion around this joint.
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The Pale Scot
I haven’t had the time to lurk lately, what was the resolution of Lilly, The Midnight Dumper?
a very frustrated minister decided to merge the pagan and Christian elements of Easter by conducting a mock crucifixion of someone dress up as the Easter bunny
MY God How do I google that, all I’m getting is Spicer porn
Around 10 years ago a very frustrated minister decided to merge the pagan and Christian elements of Easter by conducting a mock crucifixion of someone dress up as the Easter bunny.
Like The Pale Scot at #106, I just HAD to look into this. I found something from 2004; I don’t know if it is the same thing you recall, but it offers a bonus – whips!
GLASSPORT, Pa. (AP) — First, the Passion of the Christ. Now, the torment of the Easter Bunny?
It may not have been as gruesome as Mel Gibson’s movie, but many parents and children got upset when a church trying to teach about Jesus’ crucifixion performed an Easter show with actors whipping the Easter bunny and breaking eggs.
Melissa Salzmann, who brought her 4-year-old son J.T., said the program was inappropriate for young children. “He was crying and asking me why the bunny was being whipped,” Salzmann said.
Patty Bickerton, the youth minister at Glassport Assembly of God, said the performance wasn’t meant to be offensive. Bickerton portrayed the Easter rabbit and said she tried to act with a tone of irreverence.
“The program was for all ages, not just the kids. We wanted to convey that Easter is not just about the Easter bunny, it is about Jesus Christ,” Bickerton said.
Now there’s some folks who took Easter seriously! (Sorry kids…)
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trollhattan
Heh, ginormous cat now merely very large. :-)
And no groomer hospitalizations?
Roger Moore
He doesn’t look tiny to me; he looks pretty chubby.
ArchTeryx
Steve actually looks happy here…whiskers forward, ears relaxed, tail curled, usually means a pretty contented kitty.
Florida Frog
The shoulders on that cat!
Thoroughly Pizzled
@Florida Frog: You could land a 747 on ’em!
Betty Cracker
He looks embarrassed! I know because that’s how I look after haircuts too. I go in as a hippie chick in search of a trim and come out looking like a goddamned real estate lady! And in Steve’s case, it’s involuntary.
TaMara (HFG)
He is just magnificent.
LAO
Is there room for dog news, since Ms. Lily made it into Steve’s photo op?
Yesterday was an auspicious day in my dog’s life, after six months of trying, Ms. Maggie caught her first pigeon. She pounced and pinned the pigeon with her front paws. I yanked her off before she should kill it. She literally pranced all the way home.
PaulW
my furry one Ocean hates her haircuts. Next time she needs one I have to make sure the vets tranq her and that they wear +6 leather armor on their arms.
sukabi
So do you have to shave that püssŷ before you grab it John?
Drumpf has ruined EVERYTHING!
LAO
@Betty Cracker: I think he looks regretful. Like why have you done this to me? But not angry about the haircut, just really disappointed in John.
Yarrow
Lily! Love her so much. Steve looks embarrassed, but he’s ever so patient while Lily makes sure he’s still the same cat.
AdamK
Doesn’t look like he’s exactly starving. Was Lily convinced it was still her little brother?
Adam L Silverman
@Betty Cracker: Try asking for Pharma-Barbie next time…
geg6
And you tell me that Lovey is fat.
Lily is a love and Steve actually looks not too scary there. Floofy even. In a nice way.
germy
To me, it looks like Lily is whispering in Steve’s ear.
Something something tonight’s the night we get Cole something something sounds like a plan.
ruemara
Steve is wearing a velvet suit. And a Lily sighting!
I’ve been working on video edits (round 7 – these people simply are unaware of the copy they wrote & approved of) and my trip to Philthydelphia. Is there nightlife around the Convention Center? Should I avoid it? I don’t smoke or drink, really. And I’m considering heading to the Rodin Museum or revisitng the Barnes Foundation on my one free day.
brendancalling
I am a big fan of the lion haircut for longhair cats. Steve looks GREAT!
rikyrah
Steve almost looks…not scary.
Humboldtblue
Not cat related, but I stumbled upon this story about the internment of Americans of Japanese descent who were imprisoned in WW2. Some neighbors stepped up to help.
germy
Shaving Steve down to a military buzz may seem humiliating, but thing of all the fur he won’t be coughing up.
hovercraft
I don’t know what’s wrong with you Front Pagers claiming huge things are tiny, ahem, one of you claimed to be quite dainty recently, but I digress, that’s 25 ponds of feline magnificence, Steve looks beautiful, and he knows it.
@LAO:
Ha, Maggie should be proud, but those City pigeons are very sow and arrogant, they think that they own the City and so kudos on her first catch and release, but till she catches one out in “real America” she’s still an amateur.
Yarrow
@geg6:
She even has a dog tag in the shape of the heart. We know who John loves best.
The Moar You Know
That is one unhappy cat!
germy
Many years ago we had a longhair cat. My father took him in for a shaving and then we couldn’t find him.
Long story short, he was at the airport with a tambourine, chanting “Hare Krishna, Hare Hare”
JPL
What a handsome cat.
MomSense
@hovercraft:
Photographs add 10 pounds!
JPL
@LAO: Well my dog catches field mice, and then tosses them in the area. I discovered a few mice near my backdoor, and assumed a cat had climbed the fence. Then I caught him in the act.
lurker dean
damn, 25 pounds is big. our 17 pounder seems big, i can’t imagine adding another 50% to her.
germy
@JPL: A few years back a mouse got into our house. I found him lying flat on his back. My cat sat staring intently at him, but she didn’t touch him. I picked him up by his tail and dropped him outside and he ran away. He had been playing dead for our cat, who apparently lacked the kill instinct. She had the hunting instinct, but she wouldn’t finish the job.
hovercraft
Not cat related but it does mention bunnies ;- )
Christian Preacher Yells at Crowd for Embracing Easter Symbols: “Bunnies Don’t Poop Eggs!”
While street-preaching in Hong Kong, Angela Cummings pulled out an Easter Bunny and began screaming about anyone who took the symbols of the holiday seriously.
How many people do Easter Egg hunts? Are you aware that Easter bunnies don’t even hatch eggs? How stupid is that? But, yet, this mall has chocolate eggs all over it! And you’re doing like this to me [makes universal “crazy” gesture] like I’m crazy! Bunnies. Don’t. Poop. Eggs. And I’m crazy?! VIDEO
trollhattan
Media Matters has a Trump Golf Tracker going. To date: 14 Trump golf dates versus [drumroll] 0 for Obama on the same date. They also have some fun batting around the Daily Caller for their golfing Obama fixation.
hovercraft
Why ? People why?
‘Goat Yoga’ a hit on New Hampshire farm’
They just started and they’re already fully booked till June.
LAO
@JPL: Quite frankly, I don’t know who was more surprised; me, Maggie or the bird. I expect, that since she is part beagle and terrier (of the pitbull persuasion), she’d be a decent hunter if she didn’t live in NYC.
TriassicSands
@Roger Moore:
I’m going to be the contrarian here.
He doesn’t look chubby; he looks seriously overweight. I currently have two cats — one is at her perfect weight and always has been. She’s a self-regulating eater and has never had a weight problem. The other cat has an autoimmune disease and is taking prednisone (a corticosteroid) for life. Since she started taking prednisone she has put on a lot of weight (a common side effect of long-term steroid use), but she doesn’t look as overweight as Steve looks.
Please, John, put Steve on a diet. You seem to have a problem with having obese felines and I’m guessing it isn’t all their fault. Having Steve lose weight will be good for him and his old age will likely be longer, healthier, and happier.
Barbara
@hovercraft: Around 10 years ago a very frustrated minister decided to merge the pagan and Christian elements of Easter by conducting a mock crucifixion of someone dress up as the Easter bunny. Other than permanently confusing the children in the audience, he managed to outrage a lot of their parents.
lurker dean
@ruemara: the convention center is right next to chinatown which, generally speaking, is alive at night. i’m not that familiar with the other kinds of nightlife in that area (except for knowing that the tracadero theater is right there also), but walk a couple of blocks south to chestnut street and there are plenty of bars and restaurants. walk a few blocks east and you’ll be in old city with lots of nightlife. west of the convention center is mostly the business area, and north of it is a highway and industrial spaces being reno’d into condos. the convention center is also next to reading terminal market, a good place for lunch.
the barnes foundation is pretty great, though the big museum is also quite good also.
Waldo
Poor Steve. Looks like his head’s been inexpertly photoshopped onto the body of a walrus. Sad.
laura
Big Kiki is Big!
Also, too, I can see why you’d miss Lily.
schrodingers_cat
Steve looks mortified that you took his picture without his fur on. Revenge will be served cold at 3 am. I would sleep with one eye open, if I was you. He is pretty pudgy wudgy.
LAO
O/T — For those that are interested (in a train wreck kind of way) this guy is live tweeting the Alex Jones Custody Proceeding.
schrodingers_cat
@hovercraft: My cats do Yoga all the time, their favorite is the corpse pose.
laura
@ruemara: Barnes Foundation!!!
Art of the Steal was an eye opener.
Mnemosyne
@hovercraft:
Baby goats are cute.
That’s about it.
Barbara
@ruemara: I visited the Rodin Museum in Paris (Rodin’s house) and the Rodin in Philadelphia has been on my list of must see museums for a while. I have mixed feelings about the Barnes Collection. I am sure the art is great but the controversy over its relocation was truly ugly.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
and so have I ever prayed to the Easter platypus
(Has Doc Silverman addressed the air craft carrier cock up?
If it’s a walk back, I’m glad of it, but will Fareed Zakaria unpresidential his man DT now?)
manyakitty
FWIW, we have three cats, all around 8 1/2-9 years old. Manya (of nym) maintains a reasonably constant 8+ lbs. Heisenberg and Schrodinger are littermates, and from appearances, have the same father, too, (but who knows?). Schrodinger is a comfortable 12-13 lbs, but Heisenberg won’t drop under 16, no matter what we do. They don’t free feed, I developed a meal time ritual that involves him completing 11 “jumping jacks” before he eats (22 total), while the other two have first shot at the more calorically dense dry food. I run them around with toys and the laser mousie most evenings. Some cats are just floofy.
hovercraft
@LAO: The crazies chicken sure are coming home to roost.
White nationalist claims Trump directed rally violence
Trump supporter asks a federal court to hold the president liable for any damages stemming from a lawsuit filed by protesters who attended a Kentucky campaign stop.
By Kenneth P. Vogel
04/17/17 06:18 PM EDT
……….Matthew Heimbach claims in his federal court filing that he “acted pursuant to the directives and requests of Donald J. Trump and Donald J. Trump for President” and that, if he’s found liable for damages, “any liability must be shifted to one or both of them.”…………
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
@hovercraft: Hey, if it works, and everybody consents, why not?
randy khan
@ruemara:
If you’ve seen the Barnes, you probably don’t need to see it again unless there’s something you really loved. The Philadelphia Art Museum is one of the country’s best, and several years ago they opened up a new building around the corner (a gorgeous former insurance company headquarters) where they do some interesting stuff that doesn’t fit in the main building. Also hard to go wrong with Rodin.
lurker dean
@Barbara: i appreciate the controversy but i have to say that the foundation did a great job of replicating the salon-like presentation of the art in a manner the dr. would approve of. if it wasn’t in philly.
Wallis Lane
@schrodingers_cat: Also popular is the Downward Facing Bread Loaf.
hovercraft
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Never, Bush’s air carrier landing was never repudiated, they all just pretended that they never swooned over it.
LAO
@hovercraft: Didn’t he promise to pay any legal fees incurred by his supporters. So just another example of how Trump supporters got suckered. LOL.
trollhattan
@schrodingers_cat:
I have a dog who does dog pose. Amazing, right? He’s very flexible.
Jay C
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
IMO, the “cock-up” re the Carl Vinson group (and its supposed Kim-cowing “mission”) was more to be laid at the feet of the White House and the media (I know, what a shocker!). The Navy, apparently, was just sending the ships where they were going to be going anyway: the Administration was, as usual, just shooting its mouth off for “tough”-talk PR, and the media (sadly, as usual) just jumped on the rah-rah bandwagon without checking into the facts. Imagine my surprise….
Ruemara
@hovercraft: goats are adorable.
@randy khan: danke. A very cultural day awaits, post booth setup.
hovercraft
Ducey signs ‘Blue Lives Matter’ bill that toughens penalty for assaulting off-duty police
…………..The measure, dubbed the “Blue Lives Matter Law,” makes it an aggravating circumstance for someone to knowingly assault an off-duty law-enforcement officer out of malice because of the officer’s employment. It also creates a new felony charge for attempting to take an off-duty officer’s gun, handcuffs or other weapon.
It’s already a higher-level crime to assault an on-duty police officer……………
“This is a bill that is searching for a problem when there is not one,” he said.
Under existing law, aggravated-assault charges can be leveled if the defendant knowingly committed the crime against a peace officer, constable, firefighter, paramedic, health-care practitioner, teacher, prosecutor, judicial officer or public defender.
Barbara
@lurker dean: I don’t have a firm opinion and I honestly don’t know whether the foundation really tried to keep the art where it was supposed to stay, on the campus of a historically black college. I know that it was easier to raise money for a location in Philadelphia and many more people see it now than before.
MomSense
@hovercraft:
Yoga for Yankees
RoonieRoo
@manyakitty: Except for we have seen the pictures of Steve when Cole first got him. He’s not naturally this fat. Cole got him this way period.
@TriassicSands: I’m thrilled for someone else to pick up the flag on the overfeeding of his cats. I’ve tried for years and gave up long ago. He did start to trim down Steve for a while and it was obvious as he started looking a bit healthier but he’s definitely back to full weight now. You’ll not find much support in these comboxes for Steve being fat, to put it plainly. You’ll get a lots of excuse making and you’ll start to realize why veterinarians have so many cats clients that are obese and the futility of the battle.
I have a cat that naturally trends to the “floofy”. It just takes a bit more work and not making excuses to keep his weight healthy which is why I roll my eyes at those that give the list of all they do and their cat is just naturally fat.
manyakitty
@RoonieRoo: I’m open to suggestions. He gets regular vet care, and they know how I work with him. We ALL want Heisenberg to lose weight, but here we are.
randy khan
@Barbara:
The art was never on the college campus – it was in a house on the other side of the river from the center of the city. (I think the address may technically have been in Philadelphia, as it was off City Line Avenue aka Route 1. It was Barnes’s own house, IIRC. The college had control of the board that ran the museum and the art school. (All of this was a big middle finger to the Philadelphia establishment, by the way.)
One consequence of the location, which was in a residential neighborhood, was that they had to restrict admission. Also, I think the hours were limited so that the art students could spend time there without nasty visitors poking about. Regardless, it was a tough ticket. My wife and I went once, and it was a pain to get in.
The basic problem was that Barnes didn’t leave enough money to run the museum and art school in perpetuity (though he tried), and so they needed to do something. I’m not really sure the court did the right thing, but at least it insisted on maintaining his original arrangement in the new space, and the move has made the art accessible to a lot more people, which is a good thing.
glory b
@hovercraft: Don’t all states have similar laws enhancing penalties for attacks against those kind of folks (Pennsylvania includes public transit operators I believe)?
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
I would try to go to the Mutter Museum, but I can be morbid sometimes.
schrodingers_cat
@trollhattan: My kittehs love to lie on the yoga mat. When I get it out of the closet, they are there in a flash. Then they proceed to curl up on it.
Mnemosyne
@manyakitty:
We also have three cats who all eat the same thing with two at normal weights and one who’s a little overweight. It’s a little fraught with the overweight one because she has a medium-serious heart murmur, so we need to keep her weight in the normal range, but we also have to be careful with exercise.
RoonieRoo
@manyakitty: Let me tell you about my fatty. He got to the point where he couldn’t clean his own bottom. I was in serious denial and kept telling my vet I knew how much he was eating, etc. Yeah, I was lying to myself.
After I watched him struggling to clean his own butt I had the full weight of the guilt hit me like a ton of bricks. So, I started measuring to a fine detail exactly how much food he was getting every day. I raw feed and I had to figure out the kilo calories on that but commercial food would be easy since it’s on the bag, usually. I would ask your vet if he can give you a good number to start with and feed him exactly that. I had to feed my fatty in a room by himself until all the other cats were done. It was a bit maddening and required some shifting of our life for a while but it was worth it.
I got a baby scale and I weighed him every couple of days. You have to be careful with cats that they lose the weight slowly and consistently or you can end up with fatty liver issues. Your vet can tell you how much weight your cat can safely lose a week. I had to cut back food further than I originally thought twice when I started this but I finally found the exact amount of food that would give me the right weekly weight loss.
I went from a cat that couldn’t bath his own butt and wouldn’t play very much at all to a cat that demands play every single day. Now, you are playing with your cat and he’s wanting to play which means you are starting in a waaaaaaaay better place than I started so it won’t take you as long as it took us.
But the answer I learned in my journey with Milo is that it really and truly all comes down to calories. No other answer. So if your kitty isn’t budging from that 16 lbs, it really is the calories are still too high for him. It sucks when they look at you with the “Seriously, that is all I get???” look.
manyakitty
@RoonieRoo: As far as Steve goes, that’s between Cole and his vet.
I’ve seen plenty of people chronically overfeed their cats, give them garbage food, etc. Please try being less judgmental of people who actually are aware, and try to control portions, add exercise, and so forth.
Not itching for a fight here, promise.
zhena gogolia
@germy:
Same as our cats. We found the three of them in a circle staring at a mouse. Husband somehow got the mouse into a box, put it on the deck, and it scampered away.
manyakitty
@RoonieRoo: Sure, that’s reasonable. I know about the calorie thing, too. They eat grain free, so that has more calories than “regular” cat food, at least for the dry. I tried some raw diets and they rejected that stuff outright. Right now, the three of them split 1/3 c dry food and a 5 oz. can of wet food, twice a day. Manya gets the best shot at the dry, and by the time Heisenberg is done with his exercises (jumping to tag the wet food spoon), it’s mostly gone. H gets two bites of wet, Schrodinger gets one, and the rest goes into the bowl, along with a can of water. Right now, they also get one lysine treat every morning, too.I haven’t free-fed them since they were kittens. Again, this is all happening under (loose) veterinary supervision. That said, I might try cutting back a little on the dry food, but that ultimately cuts into Manya’s diet, and she’s already a good weight.
@Mnemosyne: So far, we’ve been lucky that Heisenberg’s heart is strong and he’s not tending toward diabetes (yet).
zhena gogolia
@manyakitty:
I am so tired of the cat weight police. My slim cat died of cancer at 10 years old. My fat cat (fed exactly the same as the other two) is still going strong at 15. tfu, tfu, tfu, ne sglazit’
RoonieRoo
@manyakitty: I understand you aren’t itching for a fight. And you, unfortunately, just walked into my big red button that makes me crazy. You really are the exception out there that you are working on the issue. I will work on my instant assumption about commenters.
But, here is my excuse making but for occasionally be a jerk, I’m done with not being judgmental about it in general. These animals are entirely at our mercy for caring for them. I have three veterinarians in my family and I am deep in the dog training world. I get to see the results of people overfeeding their dogs every stinking day.
Due to this I probably will continue to be judgmental because I am constantly having this conversation over and over and over with the exact same people who continue to overfeed their animals and refuse to make changes. I’m also a support system for all my training friends and vets that are having this ad nauseum conversation with the exact same clients year after year.
And since I totally walked the fat pet road myself and realized how wrong I was, I’m probably a bit more judgmental to people that won’t listen.
zhena gogolia
@manyakitty:
You’re supposed to starve the cat and make his life miserable. Then you can be happy.
hovercraft
@MomSense:
Funny ;- )
@glory b:
Most states including Arizona already have harsher penalties for attacking police officers, that was the point the democrats were making, this is gratuitous, just to make a political point that the GOP supports the police unlike those dems who support BLM. If there was a serious need for the law that would be one thing, but they can’t even point at any stats to justify this.
ETA: You are correct that these laws usually include DA’s, bus drivers, etc. but this newly enhanced law is only about the police, which is why it’s been dubbed the “Blue Lives Matter Law”.
manyakitty
@zhena gogolia: Sorry about the slim baby, but I’m glad the floofy one is happy and healthy! I think, as with people, animals have different body types, and while there’s definitely room for improvement, a high quality diet and plenty of exercise goes a long way.
RoonieRoo
@zhena gogolia: I’m tired of people that can’t recognize that their obese cat making it to 15 or 18 is just luck or good genetics on the part of the cat. I guess all those life long smokers that lived to 80 are proof that smoking isn’t really unhealthy.
manyakitty
@RoonieRoo:
This x 1000. I get it, and appreciate your perspective.
Also, too, the commenters here are generally more likely to be aware of this stuff than the population at-large.
zhena gogolia
@manyakitty:
I had no problem keeping cats slim when they went outside during the day. But only one of them made it past age 10 — three disappeared in broad daylight, probably coyotes. This group of three have been indoors, and they get bored with toys in about 5 minutes, so I’m not sure how they’re supposed to get exercise. The two girls never got fat, but Masha developed mast-cell cancer. Slim Sasha and fat Louis are still with us, both hyperthyroid (she developed it a few years before he did) but responding well to medication.
zhena gogolia
@RoonieRoo:
And he would have been dead before age 2 if I hadn’t trapped him and cared for him lovingly all these years. So your guilt-tripping is having no effect.
lurker dean
@Barbara: interesting, i did some followup and didn’t realize that dr. barnes had provided that lincoln univ would nominate most of the trustees for the foundation.
“Barnes made very specific provisions for what would happen to the collection after his death, giving Lincoln University (the historically black college where Julian Bond’s father, Horace, was then president) the power to nominate most of the trustees to run the foundation.”
though barnes’ reasons may have been less than pure:
“”It was partly because Barnes wanted to put his finger in the eye of people in Philadelphia – ‘Take that! I’m going to put these black people in charge of it!'” Bond said.”
http://www.barnesfoundation.org/about/press/coverage/cbs-051312
manyakitty
@zhena gogolia: Yeah, all three of mine are fully indoor cats, so their exercise opportunities are limited. That said, we have three floors, counting the basement, so they often move around more than I do.
RoonieRoo
@manyakitty: Thank you. Sorry I get so riled up on this topic. I honestly don’t think I would get this crazy if I hadn’t gone through what I did with my fatty cat and, before that, my skinny but very diabetic cat. He is how I ended up moving to raw feeding.
dww44
@Roger Moore: I agree, given that he’d make 2 1/2 of my 15 plus year old tuxedo female.
RoonieRoo
@zhena gogolia: I’m not trying to guilt trip you. I’m just trying to point out that you are wrong about cat obesity not being a problem for the cats health.
manyakitty
@RoonieRoo: It makes sense. We love our critters and want them all to be as healthy and happy as possible. Common goals, my friend.
manyakitty
@manyakitty: This year’s calendar picture of Heisenberg (Nov) doesn’t really show his floof. I’ll try harder next time. ;-)
lurker dean
@lurker dean: actually, the article notes that barnes venerated the black community and disliked elitists. bond’s characterization made barnes’ motives sound less noble, not anything that barnes said.
RoonieRoo
@manyakitty: Now can we figure out how to get these 20 lbs off me?
ET
Now Steve looks “sturdy” and not HUGE!
opiejeanne
@RoonieRoo: Me too. I know what I have to do but it’s hard to want to, and I need a rain suit of some sort to do the walking I wanted to be doing by now because I live near Seattle.
RoonieRoo
@opiejeanne: I was doing about 3 miles of walking every day….and then I had a week where I didn’t. Now I’m struggling to get that motivation back and I just keep finding it easy to find everything else in the world to do instead.
Manyakitty
@RoonieRoo: Ha! Me too!!!
ThresherK
“Tiny without his hair”?
Knowing he’s been given a close shave, that there’s maybe 1/4″ of fur, makes him look very solid.
TriassicSands
@manyakitty:
If that were true then: 1) Cole wouldn’t post it here and 2) the majority of commenters wouldn’t encourage Cole (or is enable a better word?).
@zhena gogolia:
Yeah, there are so many and they’re making your like miserable, aren’t they? I second RoonieRoo’s response to you:
RoonieRoo sounds informed, genuinely concerned, and thoughtful.
Bart
Nearly a hundred reactions and not a single person has noticed Thurston is in the picture as well. Look at Lily’s tail, people!
Ohio Mom
@ruemara: My vote is for Philadelphia’s Magic Gardens but I am a sucker for outsider art.
Shana
@laura: Loved Art of the Steal. Also managed to make it to the original Barnes building several years ago with Art Historian daughter during the spring break college tour. Good times.
@randy khan: AIRC, the building was built for the collection and was never Barnes’ house.
Manyakitty
@RoonieRoo: And…I just fed the monsters. Apparently, I already reduced their dry food from 1/3 c to 1/4 c.
mak
@randy khan: Actually, the old Barnes Foundation was located essentially on a college campus, but not Lincoln U.. It was on the Merion Station side of City Line Ave., next door to an old mansion-turned-dorm, Sullivan Hall, IIRC, basically surrounded by the Saint Joe’s campus.
I lived just down the lane (Lapsley Lane) in another one of the old houses that had been converted to student housing. My friends and I wandered over there frequently when it was open, and were always surprised how accessible (and usually empty) the place was. The Masterpiece-per-square-inch ratio was staggering, to the point where first-time visitors were often heard to comment that the paintings had to be forgeries, since there was simply no way that all of these paintings could belong in this (albeit lovely) building next door the site of our frequent keggers.
Manyakitty
@TriassicSands: My earlier comment stands on its own. Is Steve fat? Maybe, but what do I know?
I asked for advice about MY cat, and engaged in what passes for a civil discussion around this joint.
The Pale Scot
I haven’t had the time to lurk lately, what was the resolution of Lilly, The Midnight Dumper?
The Pale Scot
@hovercraft: Huaaa…..
Fuckin’ prods ( I don’t include mainline churches in that epithet, they’re godless pagans, but they are not nutjobs)
Taking away the vote from people like this would solve a lot of problems
Edit for grammar
Miss Bianca
@Barbara: Ima just gonna leave this right here: Ten medieval rabbits who hate Easter and want to kill you.
The Pale Scot
@hovercraft: I had that beat in a comment about Equine Reiki Masters almost two years ago
https://balloon-juice.com/2015/07/11/late-night-open-thread-worth-a-try/#comment-5400190
Edit. sorry for the attitude, haven’t had a beer yet
The Pale Scot
@Barbara:
MY God How do I google that, all I’m getting is Spicer porn
sharl
@Barbara:
Like The Pale Scot at #106, I just HAD to look into this. I found something from 2004; I don’t know if it is the same thing you recall, but it offers a bonus – whips!
Now there’s some folks who took Easter seriously! (Sorry kids…)