You wanted Trump, you got him, bitch.
Obviously I don’t like whistleblowers being prosecuted, but wikileaks and Assange morphed from whistleblower status long ago.
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You wanted Trump, you got him, bitch.
Obviously I don’t like whistleblowers being prosecuted, but wikileaks and Assange morphed from whistleblower status long ago.
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Wag
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lollipopguild
Karma!
trollhattan
Jesus, Bannon must really be out.
Howard Beale IV
And I see the ACLU is pissing and moaning that Assange should not be prosecuted because of the chilling effect that would be sending to “News Organizations”. Well, since we have seen how Mr. Assange was more than willing to be a fellow traveler in helping elect the Peach Pinochet and being Putin’s butt-boy, I’m all in favor of letting the chips fall where they may. Hopefully, with the Ecuadorian elections coming up soon they can have a change in government and throw his sorry ass out of the British embassy and let Sweden pick him up (that is, if the FSB doesn’t get to him first….)
JGabriel
No assistance to Donald Trump shall go unpunished.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
???????you rapist muppet
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Feels like the peripheral players are being rounded up – like a seine net scooping up the bait fish to get to the bigger fish. Lots of weird shit happening all of a sudden.
ETA: Our media is not capable of keeping up with any of this, except Rachel Maddow.
middlelee
I loathe Assange and Sessions equally. Let’s see, Sessions takes down Assange and then someone bigger takes down Sessions. That would work.
burnspbesq
@Howard Beale IV:
That was rwo weeks ago. The good guys lost.
burnspbesq
Fuckit.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-39640144
Jeffro
@JGabriel:
Sort of a corollary to “Trumpsubstantiation” (h/t Betty Cracker)…everything Trump touches turns to shit, so it stands to reason that anything that benefits Trump must be shit as well. Shit as in illegal, unethical, immoral, or all of the above.
Another Scott
I’ve never had a good feeling about Assange nor Wikileaks, myself. Assange’s history doesn’t inspire confidence, IMHO.
But nothing is going to happen to him unless Ecuador gives him up, and AFAIK, Sweden will get first dibs.
Cheers,
Scott.
Thoroughly Pizzled
Is this the murder-the-loose-ends part of the movie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z6MJIjCJ20
randy khan
Personally, I think it would be fine if he stood trial in Sweden first.
Howard Beale IV
@burnspbesq:
Rats. I wasn’t following that election that closely. Sorry to hear that.
hovercraft
Aww, poor baby, did he think Tangerine Mussolini was his friend, did he think he was special?
Lay down with vermin and you get rabies you vile mother fucker.
Yes I’m bitter and yes I believe whistleblowers should be protected, but this mofo is no whistleblower, he’s a misogynist, racist POS who has spent the last decade of his life sabotaging the democratic party whist coddling autocrats like Twitler and Putin. I hope between the Swedish and these charges he spends the rest of his life in jail. The harm he has done to the world is incalculable. Yes I know he is not the “reason” Hillary lost, but he was a big contributing factor. Asshole.
chopper
@Howard Beale IV:
I’m LOLing at the idea that Wikileaks is a “news organization”.
amk
Yet another proof everything twitler touches turns into shit.
Hope this rapist pos gets his due Karma.
amk
@Howard Beale IV:
News Organizationsfucking fifth columnist pigs endangering the whole world.the Conster, la Citoyenne
@hovercraft:
Wikilieaks is one of the reasons Wilmer and Jane got to keep grifting by feeding the resentment of the bros, loooong after Wilmer had a path to the nom. When was that trip on the private jet to Rome again? Oh. So, yeah, mission accomplished for Assange. He and Putin know their white male snowflake audience.
efgoldman
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
Assange… Chafffetz… Billo….
Maybe the world really DOES work the way it’s supposed to.
Maybe whoever said that indictments were coming sooner rather than later was right!
hovercraft
@chopper: @Howard Beale IV:
I have no problem with the ACLU kicking up a stink about this, that’s their job. I obviously disagree with them, but if I’m okay with them defending the KKK, I’m fine with this. I think they will lose, I hope they lose, but they should defend the indefensible even if it’s not popular, who knows when people I do like and support will need their protection from an overzealous government, especially with the despicable leprechaun in charge. I have two concerns, one that he’ll never get kicked out of the embassy, and two that given the incompetence of this administration, they fuck this up, just look at how inept they’ve been at trying to defend the Shitgibbons executive orders. Their arguments were amateurish, and definitely not ready for prime time.
Steve in the ATL
@middlelee:
And someone takes down that smug treasonous asshole Snowden too, right?
jmw
It’s one thing to say they are prepping charges but charges of what exactly? I think there were a lot of people motivated to find a crime for the State Department Cables and coaxing of Manning to leak them but they couldn’t come up with anything that would stick.
And I feel like that is the only well that is available given that if they try to use the DNC hack the administration may tar itself and I don’t think that Sessions even after ‘recusing’ himself will allow that.
Percysowner
@hovercraft: Exactly! The entire job of the ACLU is to defend our civil rights and very often that means taking on unpopular and even loathsome clients, because the law is often made on those hard cases not the cases with a 100% innocent person. You can’t suspend civil rights because the person being protected is wrong or even evil, because then it becomes far too easy to suspend them when the person is just maybe wrong but not evil and eventually you don’t have rights at all.
I haven’t seen what the ACLU is arguing, but they need to be as rigid on protecting our rights as the right wing is on demolishing them and that includes protecting scuzzballs like Assange.
Another Scott
@hovercraft: Yup, yup, yup.
Plus, we know that Donnie’s minions rarely speak from the same page, so who knows what’s really going to happen. Session and others may wan to have him arrested, but they really don’t have a say since he’s sitting in London…
Maybe Donnie will cause another international incident by demanding that Elizabeth arrest Assange when Donnie’s in London in October (if he’s still in office then).
Cheers,
Scott.
satby
@efgoldman: Spring cleaning was never this good before!
efgoldman
@hovercraft:
Well of course. Those weren’t real courts with real judges in real states. The AG said so.
I thought I heard something out of the corner of my ear today that a new action against the maladministration has been filed in the “Mexican judge’s” court – the same judge that was hearing the Fraud U case before it settled.
efgoldman
@Steve in the ATL:
Not unless he has to climb stairs to get to his apartment in Russia.
Wag
@hovercraft: This ?
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
Meanwhile, Griftwald is blaming ……… wait for it………
Trumpthe Democrats. (photo)#GriftersGottaGrift
LurkerNoLonger
Memo to Julian’s future fellow inmates: he likes it rough and nonconsensual. Fuck him in the Assange until he Wikileaks.
Pete Mack
Not convinced that the US has reasonable jurisdiction over Assange, little as I like the guy. US security law just doesn’t apply in Europe.
JGabriel
@Jeffro:
Yep. As intended.
Mnemosyne
@Percysowner:
The ACLU should defend everyone, but that doesn’t mean they should always win.
Steve in the ATL
@Pete Mack:
said no federal judge ever
Mnemosyne
@Pete Mack:
If they successfully extradite him to Sweden to face the rape charges he’s been dodging, that will make me just as happy.
JGabriel
@Another Scott:
Will they though? IIRC, Sweden only wanted him for questioning – they hadn’t brought charges yet the last time I checked. So will Sweden get first dibs, or the US – since the US has now actually brought charges?
burnspbesq
@Howard Beale IV:
I wasn’t either, until I read somewhere that the center-right challenger had pledged to kick Assange to the curb. Then I got real interested.
amk
OT.
Another Scott
@JGabriel: The Guardian link in my post says:
Those dates apparently are in 2010.
FWIW.
Cheers,
Scott.
burnspbesq
@Pete Mack:
Conspiracy, and aiding and abetting Manning, will do nicely.
cthulhu
If you want to understand Assange, one needs to read this long format (26k words) from his one-time ghost writer…
https://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n05/andrew-ohagan/ghosting
All his behavior is predictable from this sorta-biography. That he could be corrupted by the Russians is a no-brainer. He could have been as easily corrupted by someone more extreme (e.g., Amin, Pinochet, etc.) had the timing worked out.
Mnemosyne
The Kissinger-haters are going to be in a dilemma, because it looks like Kissinger is not a fan of Jared Kushner.
Personally, I’m happy for the enemy of my enemy to also be my enemy.
hovercraft
@efgoldman:
Yes, Judge Coriel has drawn the short straw or maybe the government has. They deported a DACA immigrant, and he is suing DHS.
From TPM
efgoldman
@Mnemosyne:
Kissinger is a troll and a war criminal, but there’s no doubt he knows the field of international relations as well as anyone alive. It must pain him deeply to see such ignorant fools and amateurs running things.
piratedan
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: fuck GG… I hope he ends up broke, loveless and without animal companionship.
Yarrow
@efgoldman:
I believe that might have been me. I said “soonish” and I remember you responding. I think things are happening now. Wonder who will be indicted first.
efgoldman
@hovercraft:
Poor Evil Leprechaun. First a not really judge in a not really state, full of, you know, dark people, enjoins the immigration EO; now a Mexican judge in another not really state full of people that speak a funny language is hearing this case.
What’s a racist piece of shit Attorney General to do?
efgoldman
@Yarrow:
Probably Cole.
the pause that depresses
@efgoldman: This. There was a time when a man was expected to actually know his shit before actively aiding and abetting dictators and strongmen. Now, no standards.
Dread
Huh. Maybe there is a benevolent deity out there after all. Albeit one with a very sick sense of humor for allow President Trump to happen in the first place.
The Dudeist
@middlelee: Unless they fear Assange will soon turn on them so they are into the idea of arresting him in order to shut him down.
hovercraft
@Mnemosyne:
I think Kissinger is a war criminal and a terrible human being, but if he can help dislodge the boy wonder let him knock himself out. While I have no love or respect for Kushner, getting him turfed will not improve matters with the Shitgibbon, he has demonstrated an uncanny ability to find the worst people in the world to staff his administration, so whomever he’d replace him with would be worse. The only reason I support his ouster is that he’s lining his and Lucretia’s as well as his FIL’s pockets.
When it comes to fighting this administration, I’m like the Allies in WWII, the treat is so great that I’m willing to work with the like of Stalin to defeat them, I don’t have to like them, we just have to row together for a while.
efgoldman
@Dread:
When we studied Greek mythology in middle school, the one thing that was apparent was that the gods didn’t/couldn’t control everything, and shit happened.
Major Major Major Major
Why on earth should foreign hackers be treated as whistleblowers, anyway?
WafflesTasteGood
I don’t understand the hand ringing you people are going on about. Assange is nothing. An errand boy. Going after him doesn’t accomplish anything for liberals. As the story suggests, this is just a political move. It has clearly worked on the easily fooled people around here. Keep in mind that it is our arch enemies who are making these decisions. The same people who were praising wikilieaks just before the election.
efgoldman
@Major Major Major Major:
Reasonable question.
You still over yonder?
divF
@Dread:
Don’t you know there ain’t no devil, there’s just god when he’s drunk.
Major Major Major Major
@efgoldman: yeah, just landed in Saigon.
efgoldman
@WafflesTasteGood:
The “people” who were praising WL was Citron Cheetoh, who doesn’t care about / understand / deal with / predict consequences.
He probably doesn’t remember telling Russia, in front of millions of people, to hack the emails. He’ll certainly deny it if anybody gets the chance to ask him.
Mnemosyne
@efgoldman:
I picture him thinking to himself, Goddamnit, at least Dick Nixon was competent!
Chris T.
@divF: Isn’t that kind of all the time? According to someone (Falwell?), Katrina was because of San Francisco. How could a god miss a target that big? Obviously answer: “drunk.”
(The Old Testament guy seems like a pretty standard Abusive Alcoholic Dad. Makes sense those who believe in an all-powerful god would come up with that, given the way reality is so random.)
hovercraft
@Major Major Major Major:
They shouldn’t.
@WafflesTasteGood:
Assange knew what he was doing, why shouldn’t he held accountable? Putin is never going to be held accountable, everyone knows that including Assange, and he knew it when he chose to be his pawn, everyone knows that it’s always the “little” guy who pays the price. Assange is not some kid who had no other choices, he wanted to do this for his own reasons, he’s a racist and a misogynist, he wants the West for white people just like Putin and Twitler. My eyes are wide open, just like his were.
efgoldman
Damn. These late hockey games are killing me!
feebog
I read today that the charges relate to Manning, not any Russian connection. The charge is that Wikileaks was directing Manning to what intelligence they wanted leaked. If so, that is espionage, not whistle blowing.
Yarrow
@Mnemosyne: You certainly get that sense if you follow Dick Nixon on twitter.
efgoldman
@hovercraft:
I’m pretty sure he didn’t do it just out of the :::ahem::: goodness of his heart, either. There’s got to an account in Switzerland, or the Canary Islands, or….
scav
@efgoldman: Turning on a dime (and picking it up) to flaunt contrary opinions or facts or eat an old ally as soon as convenient is pretty much SOP for administration orange. (especially so if they’re standing in any of the limelight or in the way of the self-made legend.) And that’s likely giving them the benefit of the doubt of having a coherent direction in the first place.
Chet Murthy
@efgoldman: That pic of Steve is prima facie evidence of a crime, eh? Poor Steve.
Major Major Major Major
@hovercraft: then what’s the ACLU all up in arms about.
MisterForkbeard
@WafflesTasteGood: If I had to guess, it’s just a move to make Trump look good and not in the pocket of Russia and its Wikileaks ally. Meanwhile, this is great for Assange as well, since he’s not in any current danger of being turfed out of the embassy but can fundraise and act like a huge victim. Putin will get to attack America as going after innocent journalists.
Basically, everyone in the Trump/Putin/Assange axis comes out ahead, but nothing actually happens to Assange.
efgoldman
@MisterForkbeard:
OTOH, each piece of this maladministration is disconnected from any other part. It’s entirely possible that neither the AG nor the WH had any idea this was coming, or approved it.
ETA: I mean, if they can lose a whole carrier battle group – which I’m sure the Navy can locate literally every second of every day – this is nothing.
Yarrow
I read somewhere today that the statute of limitations was going to expire for the Swedish rape charges so the timing of these charges by the US could be tied to that. Did anyone see anything about that?
Major Major Major Major
@MisterForkbeard: this is possible, but it’s basically at the limit of the level of intelligence and coordination I think this administration capable of.
Chet Murthy
I hate to rain on this parade, but we -are- talking about KKKeebler Elf here. Either Assange wasn’t involved with the election hack and Elf indicts OR Assange was involved, and ain’t NO WAY Elf indicts. And for my $$, Elf is in up to his neck, so this talk of indictments is just that: talk.
I detest ’em both as much as anybody. But I just don’t see KKKeebler Elf indicting a guy who has info on the Russkie hack. Just don’t see it.
MisterForkbeard
@efgoldman: @Major Major Major Major:
Both of you are entirely right. Let’s say instead that whether or not this was intended, I think this will ultimately work out well for Trump, Assange, and Putin (or any anti-american interests). Trump may even try to ham it up and basically pretend he’s sad but that Assange MUST be indicted, because he broke the law. There’s any number of media idiots who’d use this as another excuse to proclaim Trump “presidential”.
efgoldman
@Chet Murthy:
Unless it’s part of the public recusal, which seems likely.
ETA: Somebody has to be running a grand jury.
Major Major Major Major
Just saw a guy on a motorbike with a jacket that said
LOSER
SCHOOL
RUINED
MY
LIFE
divF
@Major Major Major Major:
I saw that and my first thought is “well, we see that a lot around here”.
Then I realized you are in Vietnam.
Mnemosyne
@hovercraft:
To be fair, Assange never thought the leopards would turn around and eat his face. ?
Though, sadly, I have to agree with the majority here — this is probably just some posturing by Trump to, like, totally prove he’s not controlled by Russia and which will work out to Trump, Putin, and Assange’s mutual benefit. White supremacists gotta stick together.
Major Major Major Major
@divF: we just drove past the colonial presidential palace, then the seat of government for south Vietnam, now the independence palace, an icon of the reunification after the glorious people’s communist victory. It’s flying the hammer and sickle, and is a convention center that’s been rented out for an annual shareholder’s meeting.
Mnemosyne
I just glanced at that picture of Assange again and now I’m wondering if one of my favorite authors used Assange as the physical model for the villain of one of her recent books. If so, well played.
(The villain is a greedy asshole who hates the Welsh for white supremacist reasons and tries to blackmail the heroine into stealing money from blind paupers and giving it to him.)
ByRookorbyCrook
Maybe this is to keep Assange in his hidey hole at the embassy. The Ecuadoran government was hemming and hawing about his staying on the couch in the embassy around the election. Maybe this ‘indictment’ is to give an extended stay pass for Julian. Ecuador will not boot him out if he is facing espionage charges in the US.
divF
@Major Major Major Major:
All of my knowledge of
SaigonHo Chi Minh City comes from reading Robert Stone’s Dog Soldiers. He described one building as a “Third Republic drollery, Babar the Elephant colonial”. Is there any of that architecture left ?ETA: I think what he meant was Baron Hausmann’s Paris, which is really Second Empire.
Duke's Archives
So, 2018 should be fun dancing around the fact that the left got played. My sympathies.
Major Major Major Major
@divF: some. A lot of it was destroyed of course. I did just get here though. But north along the lake in old Hanoi, it was very very French.
jmw
@Major Major Major Major:
I suggest the fish market if only to see what percentage of your party can actually make it into the market.
Shalimar
@cthulhu: If Assange has been actively working for Russia, he has to absolutely despise them by now based on O’Hagan’s account of Assange’s paranoia. This gets more interesting all the time. At some point, it seems possible Assange could turn on Putin and Putin could turn on Trump.
patroclus
I don’t like Assange, but I’d like to read the indictment, if any, before I reach a judgment on whether he broke any U.S. laws. Generally speaking, I don’t support politicizing the justice system – that’s something autocrats and despots do. In and of itself, publishing information is not necessarily criminal. What – exactly – is the U.S. government alleging?
Mnemosyne
@patroclus:
Some of us are suspicious that this is the Trump version of politicizing the justice system, namely creating an indictment so Assange can continue to sponge off the Ecuadoreans without actually planning to try and prosecute him.
Duke's Archives
Dear John,
I hope Steve is just that close to not making himself felt. Those big cats don’t mess around.
hidflect
mike in dc
Maybe it is just for show, but in that spirit I’d love to see a story to the effect of “Federal investigators are also seeking to privately interview Mr. Greenwald and consider him a person of interest in the investigation…”
Elizabelle
I don’t think the Trump admin is skilled enough to play this out as they like, if they even have a strategy, and there is likely a lot of pressure from external forces. (Internal as well; Trump cannot replace every career professional, and we may have some who want to see this thug neutralized and punished. His actions turned out to be profoundly undemocratic and introduced a level of risk that modern democracies perhaps cannot withstand.)
How much do France or Germany want to see Russia interfering in their elections? Assange has done a world of bad, and he’s an awful man. Would love to see him — and Greenwald — in extreme legal peril.
And Assange’s ass bounced out of the Ecuadorean Embassy.
Elizabelle
OT, for Ms. Schrodinger’s Cat:
Robert Costa, Republican whisperer formerly of the National Review, will be the new host of PBS’s Washington Week in Review. Replacing the late Gwen Ifill.
Costa will retain his day job, GOPsplaining for the Washington Post (although, must say, he does seem more solid than anyone on the political desk at the Fuck the Fucking New York TImes.)
GOP colonization of public television continues. Go PBS. In the model of Politico, which has ruined CNN and anything else its opportunists touch.
joel hanes
@LurkerNoLonger:
Prison rape “jokes” are not funny.
patrick II
@efgoldman:
As much as anything, this makes me think that he colluded with Russia. Not because of the public statement itself, but I don’t think he can stop from saying what he is thinking, and by saying it out loud in front of his adoring fans and hearing their cheers, he justified to himself something he had already said in secret and was thinking about. If it sells, it must be alright.
Patricia Kayden
Glen Greenwald must be pissed!
Patricia Kayden
@mike in dc: Lol!! Now, that would be karma.
Mary G
Beauregard fired all the US Attorneys and hasn’t hired new ones yet, has he? So who’s going to do all this prosecuting?
Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!)
@efgoldman:
Or he isn’t getting a ruble, just the promise of a few specks of polonium in his jar of Vegemitwe should he ever decide not to do the Kremlin’s bidding.
Kathleen
@Steve in the ATL: But Pierce thinks he’s a hero.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mary G: Acting US Attorneys, career folk.
Betty Cracker
@LurkerNoLonger: Assange is vile, but so is this comment.
@MisterForkbeard: Sadly, that’s probably exactly how this shakes out: a PR coup all around.
@Major Major Major Major: Wonderful symbolism!
TenguPhule
Three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead.
Assange has loose lips.
Putin wants them closed.
AxelFoley
@middlelee:
I’d be happy with that.
AxelFoley
@Steve in the ATL:
I’d be happy with this, too. And I’d love for Greenwald to fall also.
ET
So will Assange get possession and Wukileaks release what that have on Trump?
J R in WV
@Major Major Major Major:
The Glorious People’s Communist Victory Hall is hosting an annual shareholder’s meeting? That’s so Glorious!!! And so Communist!!!!
The world is so weird!
AxelFoley
@Major Major Major Major:
Thank you.
J R in WV
I can’t but wonder what it’s like living in the Ecuadoran Embassy in London as a not-very-welcome guest? Is it like being restricted to ship-board duty after at Captain’s Mast?
Or is it more like a federal minimum-security detention center, without the view of the woods? And smaller?
How big is the Ecuadoran Embassy? How big is Julian’s
cellroom/office? Does he have a bed, a couch, a flatscreen TV and high-speed internet with no restrictions? Tube8-dot-com porn? A fridge with juice smoothies?Or just a tiny space with a couch?
Just so many questions about the accommodations! I’m sure it’s better than a barrio in Quito, but should it be?
What’s the diet like? Can he order take out from local businesses? Where dies his money come from? Is there an ATM in the office space of the Embassy? So many questions.
Is it more like a vacation, or like prison, already, since he can’t move about freely?
Betty Cracker
@J R in WV: Don’t know the answer to any of those questions save where his money comes from: the WL Twitter feed is a non-stop fundraising platform, and I’m sure there are plenty of credulous ninnies who donate to keep Assange in takeout and clean underoos. There’s probably a significant overlap with The Intercept readership.
ETA: Assange himself likens his stay at the embassy to Mandela’s time on Robben Island, so perhaps the shameless creep is uncomfortable.
different-church-lady
@WafflesTasteGood: Your newsletter: I would like to subscibe to it.
Joey Maloney
Look, if Shitgibbon really wants Assange, you know exactly what would happen. He’d give some of his private security goons command of a handful of SpecOps guys who would travel to London and run some spectacularly ill-conceived smash-and-grab on the embassy. A bunch of our soldiers would be killed along with various civilian personnel, perhaps including the Ecuadorian ambassador to St. James’ Court, with property damage in the millions. Assange, of course, would survive without a scratch and uncaptured.
Shitgibbon would go on tv and blame the Democrats.
Denali
The world is a complicated arena. I supported Assange when he showed the world the war crimes that were committed in Iraq through Wikileaks. But blowback – he lost his funding. I didn’t realize he turned to Russia for financial support. I was turned off when he interefered with the election because he is not a citizen of this country. I am also put off by the piling on here at Balloon Juice. We are appalled when someone strikes a women in the Bay area, and we laugh when someone sucker punches Richard Spencer. I am not saying Richard Spencer is a good guy; it is just that it is too easy to slide into group thinking.
Betty Cracker
@Denali: Where’s the evidence that Assange lost funding after publishing Manning’s cache? For transparency fanatics, WikiLeaks keeps their financial info curiously locked up. But common sense tells me money flowed into their coffers at an unprecedented rate after the Manning papers put that organization on the map. The rape charge dampened liberal enthusiasm (and curtailed donations) for Assange, then playing footsie with Russia dampened it even further.
As for the “piling on here at Balloon Juice,” I’m all for it. Assange is a sleazebag who helped a hostile, autocratic foreign power hijack our democracy. That warrants a little piling on in my book. As for Richard Spencer, I don’t advocate violence toward him, but I’ll shed no tears when someone gives him five in the snot-locker, and I don’t need “group-think” to tell me there are victims of violence who are more deserving of my sympathy than a Nazi scumbag.
msdc
@divF: The Third Republic was when France built its colonial empire, including French Indochina, so Stone’s reference is on the money.
manyakitty
@Elizabelle: FWIW, I’ve been reading Costa for a while, and his reporting is consistently clear and honest. I’ll take that over a supplicating, both-siderist host any day.
Elizabelle
@manyakitty: Good to hear. Truly.
liberal
@burnspbesq: Yeah, leave it to a neolib like yourself to think the ex-bankster is “the good guy”.
liberal
@Howard Beale IV: Another pro-bankster neolib?
liberal
@efgoldman: Not so clear. He supported the invasion of Iraq, right? What kind of IR genius would do that?
liberal
@hovercraft:
I agree with the sentiment, but the analogy isn’t all that good. In WWII, the bad guy we allied with (Stalin) did almost all the work in taking out Germany (5/6 th of Germany casualties were inflicted by the Red Army). Here, the good guys are going to have to do most of the work.
liberal
@Elizabelle: He might be a right-winger, but most of his stuff seems descriptive, not normative, and as a political reporter he seems pretty good. But maybe he’ll prove to be a right-wing hack anyway.
Cthulhu
@Shalimar: Ultimately Assange has loyalty only to his own fragile but inflated ego.
Like someone else we know.
LurkerNoLonger
@joel hanes: @Betty Cracker: Sorry. I let my love of wordplay and revenge get the better of me. I apologize.
Chris
@middlelee:
Would be nice if Assange hacked and released everything he can find on Sessions – let them knock each other off.
WafflesTasteGood
@efgoldman: Not just Cheeto Benito. The current directory of the CIA. So the actual guy who now says wikileaks is hostile and is supposedly going after Assange, was saying WikiLeaks was great just a few months ago.
This is just political cover to try make the tiny handed fascist look tough on Russia. You are all getting played.
NR
@burnspbesq:
So this is who you guys define as “the good guys?”
The Moar You Know
Russia brigade arrives just in time to fuck up the thread.
goblue72
@burnspbesq: Oh yeah, so horrible that the left-wing candidate beat the right-wing candidate in Ecuador. What matters is what that means about Assange and U.S. (a country so dirty in meddling in other countries internal affairs that Trump is EXACTLY the karma we fully and utterly deserve), not what that means for the entire country of Ecuador and its working people.
God, you’re such a tool.
goblue72
@NR: Burnsie is an Orange County Republican too embarrassed to register as one. Or too busy setting up offshore tax shelters for his corporate clients to bother.
NR
@The Moar You Know: Yeah, pointing out that you guys are cheering for a right-wing tool who will hurt millions of people is definitely fucking up the thread.
Ksmiami
@hovercraft: I’ll take a socialist over a fascist any day of the week
ChrisGrrr
@LurkerNoLonger: Classy reply.
Thank you.