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You are here: Home / Politics / Activist Judges! / Open Thread: Malevolent Leprechaun Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III Opens His Latest War on Justice

Open Thread: Malevolent Leprechaun Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III Opens His Latest War on Justice

by Anne Laurie|  April 20, 20176:03 pm| 216 Comments

This post is in: Activist Judges!, Dolt 45, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Trump Crime Cartel

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This is an extraordinary attack on a federal judge's right to do his job by a sitting AG. Completely inappropriate. https://t.co/X6ENGaHNM0 pic.twitter.com/WH1spvZZLx

— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) April 20, 2017

Sessions was talking to a Deep Wingnut radio host (Mark Levin), and may have forgotten that he has a wider audience these days. Per CNN:

…In the interview on Tuesday, Sessions also added that judges shouldn’t “psychoanalyze” Trump when he was asked about potential judges Trump would appoint.

“I think our President, having seen some of these really weird interpretations of the executive orders that he’s put out, I think he’s more understanding now that we need judges who follow the law, not make law,” Sessions said.

“The judges don’t get to psychoanalyze the President to see if the order he issues is lawful. It’s either lawful or it’s not. I think that it will be real important for America to have judges in the model of Judge (Neil) Gorsuch and (the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin) Scalia, people who serve under the law, under the Constitution, not above it, and they are faithful to the law. They honor it and don’t try to remake it as they’d like it to be.”

Some little island! Hawaii — where a certain former President, not to mention hordes of other inadequately-pale individuals, come from. And have allowed themselves to become entirely too UPPITY!

Let’s hope the investigations into Russian interference with the 2016 election remove this evil little man from a position of power before he can reap the delights of destroying more peoples’ lives.

Apart from [headdesk]-ing, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

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  1. 1.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 6:08 pm

    AG just picking fights with the judges left and left.

    Somehow, I don’t see this ending well for any decisions he’s going to get when they rule on any cases he brings up.

  2. 2.

    germy

    April 20, 2017 at 6:08 pm

    Motown songwriter Sylvia Moy, the storied recording studio’s first female producer who penned or collaborated on several hits, including Stevie Wonder’s “My Cherie Amour” and Marvin Gaye’s “It Takes Two,” has died in suburban Detroit. She was 78.

    Moy died Saturday at a hospital in Dearborn from complications from pneumonia, her brother, Melvin Moy, told The Associated Press on Thursday.

    Sylvia Moy started her career as a singer, but she knew she had the ability to write songs and produce at the hit-making Detroit recording studio — something her brother said was atypical at the time.

    Motown founder Berry Gordy gave Moy her first shot, but with a catch: She had to come up with something for a young Stevie Wonder.

    “He was in puberty and his voice had changed,” Melvin Moy said. “Other producers couldn’t find something that fit.”

    But Sylvia Moy found something. She and Wonder worked on different chord progressions until they found a vibe they both thought could be developed.

    “Then she worked on the lyrics and the melodies, and bam! It was a hit,” her brother said.

    That hit was “Uptight (Everything’s Alright),” which peaked at No. 3 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart in 1966, after its release in late 1965.

    Inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 2006, Moy was Motown’s first female producer and “pioneered some really, really unique things for women,” said Motown arranger and musician Paul Riser.

  3. 3.

    serge

    April 20, 2017 at 6:08 pm

    Fuck Sessions. Utterly moronic little troll.

  4. 4.

    Raoul

    April 20, 2017 at 6:10 pm

    Sorry to go very rudely OT.
    eta: Julian is on the agenda tonight:

    @jimsciutto
    BREAKING: US authorities have prepared charges to seek the arrest of @WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, US officials tell CNN
    6:02 PM – 20 Apr 2017

  5. 5.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 6:11 pm

    It’s either lawful or it’s not.

    Obviously it wasn’t lawful.

  6. 6.

    debbie

    April 20, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    Did Sessions miss the announcement of Hawaii’s statehood almost 60 years ago?

  7. 7.

    jl

    April 20, 2017 at 6:15 pm

    Are we ready for a war scare with Hawaii?
    Wait for an announcement from Trump or one his flunkies that we won’t put up with their nonsense anymore, our patience will soon run out, and our armada is heading towards Hawaii right now! They won’t be so uppity when the Pacific fleet shows up and their door, boy, i sure do tell ya!

  8. 8.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 6:15 pm

    @debbie: Apparently he believes Pearl Harbor is somewhere in California.

  9. 9.

    bystander

    April 20, 2017 at 6:16 pm

    Just read someone refer to Chaffetz’ departure as self-draining the swamp.

  10. 10.

    jl

    April 20, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    @bystander: that’s like dredging out the mud a the bottom without removing the water first. Quite a feat. And, very obviously, Drumpf did it. I’m so tired of winning now.

  11. 11.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    @jl:

    They won’t be so uppity when the Pacific fleet shows up

    I can’t wait till someone breaks it to him that we’re armed with nuclear submarines and Raptor Fighters. And that we have thousands of well trained and well armed army and marine troops defending us.

    Perhaps we should start dictating the terms of his surrender to us now.

  12. 12.

    germy

    April 20, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    Fox Host Tells Colleague She Is Giving America An Erection
    In The Wake Of Bill O’Reilly’s Ouster, Male Co-Hosts Sexually Harass Coworker On Air

    BOB BECKEL (CO-HOST): Instead of cutting every fact I’ve got and just saying, and laughing it off, because it’s — you know, it’s four to one as it is. You might want to take some facts you don’t like, because a lot of them have do with —

    ERIC BOLLING (CO-HOST): Alright, give us one. Just give us one.

    KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE (CO-HOST): All right, look at this — waah, waah, crybaby. Call your camp counselor.

    DANA PERINO (CO-HOST): Poor Bob, no.

    BECKEL: Call your dressmaker, I mean —

    GUILFOYLE: And give him a raise, that’s what I’m saying. That’s what I’m saying.

    GREG GUTFELD (CO-HOST): You are giving America a raise.

    GUILFOYLE: Oh my god.

    mediamatters.org/video/2017/04/19/fox-host-tells-colleague-she-giving-america-erection/216110

  13. 13.

    jl

    April 20, 2017 at 6:19 pm

    @TenguPhule: Same difference. Both states are out of control. Seriously out of control, as we all know.

  14. 14.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 6:19 pm

    @Raoul: Assange: They’ll never take me alive!

  15. 15.

    Mnemosyne

    April 20, 2017 at 6:21 pm

    @Raoul:

    Hmm. I guess Vlad has decided that Julian has outlived his usefulness.

  16. 16.

    Raoul

    April 20, 2017 at 6:21 pm

    @Mnemosyne: And if Vlad is involved, then TenguPhule’s joke may be all to apt. There’s a long, gruesome trail of people no longer useful to Putin.

  17. 17.

    jl

    April 20, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    @TenguPhule: Tell your governor to explain Hawaii’s history to Drumpf at the upcoming state visit. Drumpf will announce to the rest of us that it much more complicated than anyone could have ever suspected. Then you can just write the terms of the treaty and probably Drumpf will sign it.

  18. 18.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    Poor John. He had to wizz in front of a little old lady on the road. (check his twitter)

    /Cue the jokes he will never live down

  19. 19.

    Mike in NC

    April 20, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    Mike Pence to be dispatched to Hawaii, where he will declare to the media, “I’m really impressed how many of these people speak our language!”

  20. 20.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    @jl: Article 1: Nubile Southern Girls will be delivered as tribute to Hawaii to learn the ancient art of Hula. The original topless version before the Christians came.

  21. 21.

    germy

    April 20, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    outlived his usefulness.

    Why am I reminded of this scene from Casablanca?
    youtube.com/watch?v=86x4im8TQWY
    “Rick! Hide me!”

  22. 22.

    Raoul

    April 20, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    In other news, Snowbilly Grifter wore an off-the-shoulder Irish lace curtain to the Oval Office, and right wingers didn’t pitch a fit about dignity of the office or anything.

  23. 23.

    Karen S.

    April 20, 2017 at 6:31 pm

    @debbie:
    There’s this curious notion among people who think like Sessions that Hawaii, despite it being a U.S. state, is too exotic to be truly American. Maybe it’s not all that curious, now that I think about it. It’s just bigotry and aggressively malevolent ignorance.

  24. 24.

    StringOnAStick

    April 20, 2017 at 6:32 pm

    @Raoul: I just did some looking about what happened with the Ecuadoran presidential election and it still seems to be up in the air with recounting ballots but about to wrap up. However, it was my understanding a month or so ago that all the leading candidates had said they’d turn Assange out of the embassy he’s been hiding in. It would seem that Julian’s London hosts have about had enough. So, when we demand the Brits arrest and then extradite him, he’ll be up on federal charges, no? Time to demand Sessions recuse himself from this one too.

  25. 25.

    Corner Stone

    April 20, 2017 at 6:33 pm

    @Raoul:

    Snowbilly Grifter wore an off-the-shoulder Irish lace curtain to the Oval Office, and right wingers didn’t pitch a fit

    They were too busy pitching a tent. A very tiny, little tent.

  26. 26.

    debbie

    April 20, 2017 at 6:33 pm

    @Raoul:

    Photo here. No class.

  27. 27.

    geg6

    April 20, 2017 at 6:34 pm

    @Raoul:

    And she was there with Mr. Grow Your Own and Mr. Draft Dodger/Child Rapist. These people are disgusting.

  28. 28.

    Gravenstone

    April 20, 2017 at 6:35 pm

    @Raoul: Nor did they complain about the hats sported by Rock and Nugent – in the Oval Office no less.

  29. 29.

    Raoul

    April 20, 2017 at 6:36 pm

    @Karen S.: Hawaii is less than 25% white, so it should be treated shittily like we do Puerto Rico, I suspect is how these terrible people think.

    (And, no, I don’t think we should treat P.R. the way we do. In fact, if the citizens of P.R. still want statehood, I think it should be granted. We could merge N & S Dakota so we’d stay at 50 states and 100 Senators. Which, I know, ain’t gonna happen).

  30. 30.

    Goku

    April 20, 2017 at 6:36 pm

    “I think our President, having seen some of these really weird interpretations of the executive orders that he’s put out, I think he’s more understanding now that we need judges who follow the law, not make law,” Sessions said.

    Judicial Activism! Unless that judge is a RWNJ, then its totally okay…

  31. 31.

    geg6

    April 20, 2017 at 6:37 pm

    @debbie:

    And they just had to have a photo making rude gestures at Hillary’s FLOTUS portrait. What little, little men they are. As for her, who gives a fuck about her anyway? Even the wingnuts I know dismiss her.

  32. 32.

    Shalimar

    April 20, 2017 at 6:37 pm

    If Sessions weren’t so racist, he would be on the federal bench himself for the last 30+ years making similar decisions to block the implementation of obamacare.

  33. 33.

    LurkerNoLonger

    April 20, 2017 at 6:37 pm

    Jeff is mad because he believes someone from Hawaii stole his Lucky Charms.

  34. 34.

    MisterForkbeard

    April 20, 2017 at 6:37 pm

    @Raoul: I’m super interested in what those charges are. Knowingly laundering stolen information? Intentionally disrupting the election? Or more mundane “Exposing state secrets” stuff?

    I’m mostly curious as to what the Trump Admin is going to hit him with.

  35. 35.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    Speaking of people talking out of their ass…..

    As far as Iran is concerned, I think they are doing a tremendous disservice to an agreement that was signed,” Trump said. “It was a terrible agreement, it shouldn’t have been signed, it shouldn’t have been negotiated the way it was negotiated. I’m all for agreements, but that was a bad one, as bad as I’ve ever seen negotiated.”

    “Iran has not lived up to the spirit of the agreement, and they have to do that, they have to do that,”

    He’s going to start a war with Iran because the voices in his head are telling him that Iran complying with the agreement means they’re not actually complying with the agreement, Somehow.

    We are so screwed.

  36. 36.

    dmsilev

    April 20, 2017 at 6:39 pm

    @TenguPhule: “Was it over when the Confederates attacked Pearl Harbor?”

  37. 37.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 6:40 pm

    @Karen S.: Probably because we’re the only state where white people are the minority.

  38. 38.

    Goku

    April 20, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    Let’s hope the investigations into Russian interference with the 2016 election remove this evil little man from a position of power before he can reap the delights of destroying more peoples’ lives.

    Why stop there? He needs to be removed from this universe, so he can be sent to one where crackers like him are given extensive body cavity searches and then later thrown in a Guantanamo Bay equivalent.

    Radical White Terrorist!

  39. 39.

    Raoul

    April 20, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    Jeffy Sessions via @Goku:

    our President, having seen some of these really weird interpretations of the executive orders that he’s put out

    Maybe having the E.O.s drafted by competent people and reviewed by several cabinet depts & legal counsel before signing them might help? Just spitballing here, IANAL.

  40. 40.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    @Goku:

    Why stop there?

    It upsets people here when further details are provided.

  41. 41.

    GregB

    April 20, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    The Degenerate Confederate.

    I mean, fuck this guy.

  42. 42.

    SatanicPanic

    April 20, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    @TenguPhule: The agreement is bad and they haven’t lived up to it! WTF

  43. 43.

    Patricia Kayden

    April 20, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    Sessions just keeps getting worse and worse. I’m waiting for him to break out his KKK hood and completely forget that he’s supposed to pretend not to be racist in public.

  44. 44.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    @dmsilev: “Never forget when England bombed the USS Maine!”

  45. 45.

    lamh36

    April 20, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    Ugh…Palin, Nugent and Kid Rock…straight trash…

    Anyway, here’s a better use of a WH visit, even if it is with Cheeto as Prez.

    This was lovely

    Yardbarker: Jacoby Brissett honors Barack Obama during White House visit

    …I am writing you this letter to say thank you. I want to thank you for what you have done for this country — outside of politics. honestly, I don’t know enough about politics to judge what was good or bad, but I want you to know that when you said “Yes We Can” — a young man dreaming a dream from rough circumstances in Florida heard you. When you were elected President for the first time I was 16 and I watched you make the never-imaginable, attainable and I heard your cry to inspire hope. I used those words as motivation and saw your achievement as an opportunity and permission to work make dreams come true too. You were the President of the United States — the highest office in the world. You broke a barrier and a stereotype proving not every minority has to use a ball to make a way…

    One day, when I meet you, I will shake your hand and say thank you to your face but until then this kid is going to continue to dream until I can’t anymore. Thank you for blazing a trail, but for more than that, for leaving a paved road behind you for others to climb on…

  46. 46.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    @SatanicPanic: Keep in mind, this is after Sessions just reported to Congress that Iran was in compliance with the deal. Literally the day before.

  47. 47.

    mdblanche

    April 20, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    @Raoul: Boy did he bet on the wrong horse.

  48. 48.

    GregB

    April 20, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    This lying back of excrement doesn’t know a single thing contained in the agreement.

    Next week he will be saying that no one knew such agreements are difficult to negotiate.

  49. 49.

    trollhattan

    April 20, 2017 at 6:45 pm

    @debbie:
    The flag was SO SYMMETRICAL with 49 stars, damnit.

  50. 50.

    chopper

    April 20, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    @Raoul:

    (points) HA HA!

  51. 51.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 20, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    @SatanicPanic:

    The agreement is bad and they haven’t lived up to it!

    The food is terrible, and such small portions!

  52. 52.

    NotMax

    April 20, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    Would someone take five minutes to explain to the Attorney General the difference between a law and an executive order?

    Pretty please?

  53. 53.

    mdblanche

    April 20, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    How do you say “I never thought the leopard would eat MY face” in French?

    But further north, in the poorer and more multicultural suburb of Pont-de-Flandre, it’s a different picture.

    “The FN supporters you spoke to, were they white?” house DJ Kiddy Smiles asks us, “Yes? I’m not surprised.”

  54. 54.

    SatanicPanic

    April 20, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Right? That’s exactly what my brain went to when I read that.

  55. 55.

    Goku

    April 20, 2017 at 6:50 pm

    @Raoul:

    Julian: Donald! Vlad! I thought you two were my friends! How could you do me like this?

    Vlad: I has got what I wanted. Comrade Trump now in power and US will no longer stand in my way right, Donaldsky?

    Donald: Sure thing Vladdy boy! Nuking North Korea is something you’d want right?

    Vlad: W-what? No, you fool that will start WW3! Call off attack!

    Donald: Whoops, too late! China’s declared war on us and are going to nuke us. You know, that’s really something who could have known nuking North Korea would start the apocalypse? You learn something new everyday, right Vlad?

    [gunshot]

  56. 56.

    hedgehog the occasional commenter

    April 20, 2017 at 6:51 pm

    @debbie: /headdesk/ Just when I think I can’t even anymore, they come up with something else–

  57. 57.

    NotMax

    April 20, 2017 at 6:51 pm

    @trolhattan

    Cute, but there was no flag with 49 stars.

  58. 58.

    lamh36

    April 20, 2017 at 6:52 pm

    Like someone said, seems Putin has no use for Assange anymore…

    BTW, anyone heard from Eddie S lately

  59. 59.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 20, 2017 at 6:52 pm

    @lamh36:

    That is a beautiful letter. So clearly from the heart.

    The excerpt you posted gives the gist, but it is well worth clicking to read the entire tweet, most definitely including the P.S.

  60. 60.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 20, 2017 at 6:54 pm

    @NotMax:

    Sorry, you are rarely wrong but this time you are.

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_flag_49_stars.svg

  61. 61.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    April 20, 2017 at 6:58 pm

     

  62. 62.

    lamh36

    April 20, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    Jim Harbaugh Praises Kaepernick in Piece for Time 100, Applauds ‘Courage He Has Demonstrated’

    via @mediaite

  63. 63.

    hovercraft

    April 20, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    @debbie:

    Did Sessions miss the announcement of Hawaii’s statehood almost 60 years ago?

    It’s hard to see out from under the hood, the eye holes are pretty small, so maybe.

  64. 64.

    TriassicSands

    April 20, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    Beauregard couldn’t find Hawaii on a globe or a map — he’d be lucky if he could find the Pacific Ocean — and his staff has informed him that the people who live there are not all or mostly of pure white stock, therefore the island in question could not legitimately be considered a part of the United White States of America, and that means a judicial decision coming from such a questionable source can not be considered valid. Ergo, Trump can and should ignore the decision.

    When will the great United White States of America realize they have to stop kowtowing to judges whose legitimacy is negated by their lack of racial purity? And even if the judge in question happens to be white, he or she was put there by people lacking racial purity and thus they lack the backing of the Constitution of White America.

  65. 65.

    Goku

    April 20, 2017 at 7:01 pm

    @germy: High school never does end for some people, does it?

  66. 66.

    lamh36

    April 20, 2017 at 7:01 pm

    @thehill
    Justice Department defends Sessions’s remark: “Hawaii is in fact an island in the Pacific” hill.cm/cGbcdZq

  67. 67.

    Fair Economist

    April 20, 2017 at 7:01 pm

    @StringOnAStick:

    owever, it was my understanding a month or so ago that all the leading candidates had said they’d turn Assange out of the embassy he’s been hiding in

    No, Moreno (the socialist) said Assange could stay, and he seems to have won. Given that, a request from the US for extradition is largely Kabuki theatre, although the Swedish charge hits the statute of limitations shortly IIRC and that would make it relevant.

  68. 68.

    Goku

    April 20, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    @lamh36: That is some bullshit sophistry, dressed up as Real Konservative Kommon Sense

  69. 69.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 7:04 pm

    @lamh36: Still got it wrong. We’re several islands in the pacific.

  70. 70.

    germy

    April 20, 2017 at 7:05 pm

    @Fair Economist:

    This is going to make for a classic of the “Disappointed Trump Supporter” genre.

    LOLGOP

  71. 71.

    lamh36

    April 20, 2017 at 7:06 pm

    @JakeSherman
    CHAFFETZ tells me he’s already begun looking for jobs, and is interested in being on a board, or getting a TV gig

    @JakeSherman
    CHAFFETZ on a scandal coming: No. “I’ve been given more enemas by more people over the last eight years than you can possibly imagine.”
    twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/855174321362391042

    Uh…ewww…

  72. 72.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 7:08 pm

    “I’ve been given more enemas by more people over the last eight years than you can possibly imagine.”

    So he’s the uke to Mcconnell’s seme?

    /google it at your own risk

  73. 73.

    mdblanche

    April 20, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    @lamh36: Ugh, this is going to be the most nauseating sex scandal ever.

  74. 74.

    Goku

    April 20, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    @TenguPhule: Mcconnel-sempai, notice me!

  75. 75.

    Ian

    April 20, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    This reminds me of how Cookie Roberts criticized Obama for vacationing in Hawaii. “Why could he visit a place more American?”

    As I’m sure 99% of you know, Hawaii was an independent kingdom (several, actually) we annexed so that the Dole Corporation could grow sugar, banana, and pineapple. If you enjoy any of those things, know they are as American as apple pie and the subjugation of the native peoples.

    The notion that a sitting judge presiding in a U.S. state is unsuited to hear a case is about the least ‘American’ thing about all of this.

  76. 76.

    lamh36

    April 20, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    @owillis 14m14 minutes ago
    More
    per last RT pretty amazing. obama admin didnt prosecute wikileaks, trump seems he’s about to, so greenwald blames… democrats

  77. 77.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    @TenguPhule: Sane Americans: Fine, that works too.

  78. 78.

    weaselone

    April 20, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    @lamh36:

    The ruling was on Oahu, not the Big Island. Hawaii the state is composed of multiple islands. Either way, this statement by the justice department is incorrect.

  79. 79.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    @lamh36: Too soon to mention drone strikes?

    /not intended to be an actual call for drone strikes. FFS.

  80. 80.

    hovercraft

    April 20, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    @Karen S.:
    Maybe it’s not all that curious, now that I think about it.

    It’s way past the point of no return, time to let it go.

    From Wikipedia
    Racial composition 1970 1990 2000 2010 est. 2015
    White 38.8% 33.4% 24.3% 24.7% 26.7%
    Asian 57.7% 61.8% 41.6% 38.6% 37.3%
    Native Hawaiian and
    other Pacific Islander* 9.4% 10.0% 9.9%
    Black 1.0% 2.5% 1.8% 1.6% 2.6%
    Native American and Alaskan Native
    0.1% 0.5% 0.3% 0.3% 0.5%
    Other race 2.4% 1.9% 1.2% 1.2% —
    Two or more races – – 21.4% 23.6% 23.0%

    I’m sure it will get messed up when I post, sorry.
    *The was Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander was included in the Asian number the first two years of the chart.

  81. 81.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 20, 2017 at 7:15 pm

    @lamh36: as with certain others, the first thing to remember about Greenie is, he’s an asshole. Like the scorpion, it is his nature.

  82. 82.

    Ian

    April 20, 2017 at 7:15 pm

    @StringOnAStick:
    Sweden first. Tis the rule of law and all.

  83. 83.

    Uncle Cosmo

    April 20, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    @NotMax: Not so. Check out this page for the explanation:

    The flag remained unchanged until 1818. That year, President Monroe signed a bill mandating 13 stripes for the original Thirteen Colonies, and a number of stars reflecting the the number of states. That law also stipulated that, whenever a new state was admitted, the flag would change the following Fourth of July.

    Alaska was admitted to the Union on January 3, 1959. According to the 1818 law, the 49-star flag became official 6 months later, on July 4, 1959. Just a month after that, on August 21, Hawaii was admitted as well. However, the flag would not officially change for almost a year.

    This Wiki entry notes that “Both the 49- and 50-star flags were each flown for the first time ever at Fort McHenry on Independence Day one year apart, 1959 and 1960 respectively.”

  84. 84.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    @different-church-lady: I’m surprised nobody used “Those terms are acceptable” yet.

  85. 85.

    hovercraft

    April 20, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    “Iran has not lived up to the spirit of the agreement, and they have to do that, they have to do that,”

    These people really need to get on the same page, Tillerson just said they are living up to the terms of the agreement, yes he complained about the agreement, but said they are fulfilling all their obligations. Ans they wonder why the Koreans are saying that they are basically going to have to ignore what the shitgibbon and his minions say.

  86. 86.

    Ian

    April 20, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    @Raoul:
    The fetishization of the 50 states and the American flag at exactly that is new. We changed our flag many times up to 1959, but now it is too sacred to add another state? I call bs. I also say DC should get a star and senators.

  87. 87.

    Jack the Second

    April 20, 2017 at 7:19 pm

    @Raoul: I believe it’s called a cutout man.

  88. 88.

    TS

    April 20, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    @lamh36: They do self project – obviously what he was thinking every day as he attacked Sec Clinton.

  89. 89.

    Timurid

    April 20, 2017 at 7:21 pm

    Hawaii is my pick to produce the first serious* secessionist movement if/when the Trump train really gets rolling.

    *Not just a bunch of Russian-funded boutique radicals; i.e. #Calexit

  90. 90.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 7:21 pm

    @hovercraft: Its even worse then that. Spirit of the agreement means whatever the hell Trump wants it to mean at that particular moment and is subject to change at any time.

  91. 91.

    Mnemosyne

    April 20, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    @lamh36:

    Of course he does. GG can never accept white supremacists being in the wrong, which is why he still loves Dr. Ron Paul.

  92. 92.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 20, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    @hovercraft: as ObamaBro Jon Favreau has said on multiple occasions, the key is gently ask trump to explain his position. “How are they not living up to the spirit of the agreement, sir?”

    Of course, most of the public seems immune to his word-saladry at this point, and he’s learned he can buy off “The Shows” and most anti-trump Rs with a few missiles, or almost any kind of show of military force, even if it demonstrates confusion and competence at the highest levels. That carrier thing is still gnawing at my brain

  93. 93.

    TopClimber

    April 20, 2017 at 7:23 pm

    I am sure that any decision from a federal court located in New York City that Sessions does not like, he will blast for coming from a judge sitting on an island in the Atlantic. He is even-handed that way.

  94. 94.

    weaselone

    April 20, 2017 at 7:24 pm

    @Ian:

    Puerto Rico as well if they want it. I also think that if Guam and the Northern Marianas petition as a single state they should be admitted even though the combined population is only a little over 200K.

  95. 95.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    April 20, 2017 at 7:26 pm

    @lamh36:

    Greenwald lurves him some white supremacists, all the way back to his less-than-hinged and incompetent defense of murderous asshole Gluteus Maximus.

  96. 96.

    Uncle Cosmo

    April 20, 2017 at 7:26 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: I will add that

    Replicas of the Star Spangled Banner Flag (15 stars, 15 stripes) are flown [continuously] at two sites in Baltimore, Maryland: Fort McHenry National Monument and Historic Shrine and Flag House Square.

    I believe these are the only two locations where that flag is specifically authorized to fly.

  97. 97.

    mai naem mobile

    April 20, 2017 at 7:27 pm

    How come they never say this foreign not part of the US stuff about Alaska which is not part of the mainland US?

  98. 98.

    MoxieM

    April 20, 2017 at 7:27 pm

    @Ian: And yet, weirdly, the Dole family who went to the islands as Christian missionaries (oh, yeah, great) left from a hotbed of abolitionism, Hallowell ME, whose residents included not only Elijah Lovejoy who hailed from nearby, but also one Rev. Daniel Dole. Can’t make it up.

  99. 99.

    lamh36

    April 20, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    Geek girl SQUEEEEL!!!

    Fox has officially ordered 10 more episodes of #TheXFiles! share.ew.com/mLFdmNY

  100. 100.

    ruemara

    April 20, 2017 at 7:30 pm

    @mdblanche: How fucking typical. Last time I was called a n1**er to my face was a lesbian friend insulting me. I’ve endured non-stop Obama critique on gay rights from another, who also hated HRC and was scathing regarding POC not supporting Bernie. And is still Bernie or bust levels of stupid. Once they get minimal breathing room, they revert to norms of privilege and become so fucking selfish. Not surprised in the least. Crazy. I just want to yell at them that you don’t give fascists power, ever. They’ll revert to norm too.

    @lamh36: Obama remains black. Yes, I believe that is a huge factor in Greenwald & Snowden’s concerns.

  101. 101.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 20, 2017 at 7:33 pm

    @ruemara: They sound like great “friends.”

    Edited.

  102. 102.

    japa21

    April 20, 2017 at 7:35 pm

    A goodly number of those people who don’t consider Hawai’i a real state live in “states” that still don’t consider themselves part of the United States and still believe that they are only considered part of the US under duress. And to some degree I have a hard time considering them part of the US when a majority of the people living in them don’t agree with basic American principles.

  103. 103.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 20, 2017 at 7:36 pm

    @ruemara: Trump remains orange. Doesn’t that make them both POC?

  104. 104.

    ruemara

    April 20, 2017 at 7:37 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’ve let it and them go. To be fair, her mate was horrified and embarrassed that her GF’s fetishization of me had turned into hate because, yo, I ain’t gay. And if Tilda isn’t returning my phone calls, I’m not going to go gay for you. You’d have to be a phenomenal woman to tip my scale or Keanu Reeves testing out drag.

    @Omnes Omnibus: Natural color. We don’t include the dipdyed set. #nodolezalization

  105. 105.

    Gravenstone

    April 20, 2017 at 7:37 pm

    @lamh36: And Jeff Sessions is in fact a racist scumbag. Doesn’t change the equation about how Sessions doesn’t have clue one about what he’s talking about.

  106. 106.

    Lizzy L

    April 20, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    @TenguPhule: Exactly this. I could almost feel sorry for Tillerson, who has to craft his speeches and his responses to questions in a fashion that will not contradict the boss’s 3 am whackjob tweets, and is working without a staff, because the boss can’t be arsed to give him one.

    Except there’s no way I could feel sorry for Tillerson. I am just grateful that he isn’t Rudy Giuliani.

  107. 107.

    lamh36

    April 20, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    @BuzzFeedNews
    Husband of New York judge calls speculation about her death “unwarranted and irresponsible”

    With questions and confusion lingering around the death last week of Judge Sheila Abdus-Salaam, her family has begun to push back on reports that the 65-year-old died of an apparent suicide.

    “Despite the ongoing investigation, some media outlets and others have conjectured that Sheila was the victim of a ‘probable suicide.’ These reports have frequently included unsubstantiated comments concerning my wife’s possible mental and emotional state of mind at the time of her death,” her husband, Reverend Gregory A. Jacobs, said in a statement published online.

    “Those of us who loved Sheila and knew her well do not believe that these unfounded conclusions have any basis in reality. And in the absence of any conclusive evidence, we believe such speculations to be unwarranted and irresponsible,” the statement says…

    My conspiracy theory…TPTB in NYC would rather this be a suicide than an anti-Muslim/anti-Black hate crime. I mean it could just as well be random crime, but still…

  108. 108.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    @lamh36:

    I mean it could just as well be random crime

    And I suppose those Russians are just naturally throwing themselves out of buildings.

  109. 109.

    ruemara

    April 20, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    @lamh36: I’m fully in tinfoil hat territory here, but I don’t think it was random. I hope that there isn’t another crazy accident taking out another black judge or muslim judge (or both), but I’m not comfortable enough to believe in random. I’m just not.

  110. 110.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    @mai naem mobile: Gold, Oil, White majority.

  111. 111.

    Patricia Kayden

    April 20, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    @Raoul: Trash acting like trash. No surprise there.

  112. 112.

    Timurid

    April 20, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    @ruemara:

    Although if it is terrorism, it would be odd for the perps to disguise their intent.

  113. 113.

    ruemara

    April 20, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    @Timurid: Not if it’s our embedded neonazi cops. Of which we seem to have collected an infestation in America.

  114. 114.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 7:49 pm

    @Timurid: Murdering a judge risks being killed while resisting arrest. Even for a white dude.

  115. 115.

    NotMax

    April 20, 2017 at 7:52 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo

    Also authorized to fly nonstop on the Moon.

    @Uncle Cosmo

    Memory may be playing tricks, but recall our scout troop holding ceremonies to burn the 48 star flags at the school when they were replaced by the 50 star version. No recollection of any interim with 49 stars.

    As it was the Cub Scouts, would have been in 1959 (my last year with them).

  116. 116.

    Mnemosyne

    April 20, 2017 at 7:56 pm

    @ruemara:

    I think it’s fully possible that it was a hate crime but that the murderer didn’t know who she was except a Black woman.

    Though I also think of the bizarre murder of actress/director Adrienne Shelly, whose murderer tried to make it look like she’d committed suicide. People trying to cover up a crime can do pretty weird things.

  117. 117.

    Kathleen

    April 20, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    @ruemara: I always thought it was the only factor. NSA has been around since 1952. Doing spy type stuff. Suddenly, when we elect President Black Guy, NSA is problem that requires theft of documents, “reporting” (which consisted of sensationalizing and misrepresenting what documents said and providing no context), and “leaking” information at critical junctures before PBO met with European officials. And of course the mainslime media lapped it all up and furrowed its collective brow and intoned that yes PBO was enemy of the people, weak, ineffective, blah blah blah. Plus James Risen (reporter, Vichy Times) claiming Obama admin greatest enemy of press freedom and it’s Obama’s fault if Trump abuses his power.

    politico.com/blogs/media/2015/02/risen-obama-administration-is-greatest-enemy-of-press-freedom-20270…

    This to me was the first overt shot at a process designed to undermine Obama/Democrats. Snowald, St. Wilmer, and Rethug rodent procreators and Mainslime Media are part of a continuum.

  118. 118.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    April 20, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    Fine by me….

  119. 119.

    Kathleen

    April 20, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    @ruemara: I’m not either.

  120. 120.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 20, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    @NotMax:

    No recollection of any interim with 49 stars.

    It didn’t last long. Per my link at #59, the 49-star flag flew from July 4, 1959 to July 3, 1960. That said, I’m sure there were a great many places, institutions, scout troops, etc. that never bothered to invest in the 49er, knowing that a 50-star flag was coming along in a year. So your recollection is probably correct — it was just the previous flag being burnt.

    (Sorry, missed that Uncle Cosmo at #82 had said much the same.)

  121. 121.

    lamh36

    April 20, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    @ruemara: Right…it’s one thing to rough up some random Black female…but if said female turns out to be a bigwig like a judge…I’d imagine you’d do whatever you could to cover up everything.

    speculation of course…

  122. 122.

    hovercraft

    April 20, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    @lamh36:

    This was lovely

    Yardbarker: Jacoby Brissett honors Barack Obama during White House visit

    …I am writing you this letter to say thank you. I want to thank you for what you have done for this country — outside of politics……….You broke a barrier and a stereotype proving not every minority has to use a ball to make a way…

    One day, when I meet you, I will shake your hand and say thank you to your face but until then this kid is going to continue to dream until I can’t anymore. Thank you for blazing a trail, but for more than that, for leaving a paved road behind you for others to climb on…

    That’s so beautiful.
    Can you imagine, no I’m not going to go there, I’ll just add my thanks to Jacoby’s and leave it at that.
    Really Thanks Obama!

  123. 123.

    Mnemosyne

    April 20, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    @ruemara:

    Also, too, if I were writing the mystery/spy novel of this, Judge Abdus-Salaam would have just been assigned to a Russian mobster case that has ties to Putin. But that’s my fiction writer’s brain at work.

  124. 124.

    Honus

    April 20, 2017 at 8:09 pm

    @Karen S.: exactly. And practiced most ardently by people from states that committed treason against the US, and now are subsidized by the blue states and same government they despise. Alabama is the fourth most dependent state on the federal funds.

  125. 125.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    April 20, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: President Obama weighed in on that 8 years ago about another orange person.

  126. 126.

    Karen S.

    April 20, 2017 at 8:22 pm

    @Honus: Sigh. I really hate bigots.

  127. 127.

    lamh36

    April 20, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    I’m surprised it too them so long to latch on to this…

    @GOP
    Bernie Sanders mentions DNC Chair Tom Perez. Crowd boos. Bernie doesn’t defend him. #Unity

  128. 128.

    Raoul

    April 20, 2017 at 8:25 pm

    @lamh36: “Washington, D.C. is indeed a swamp in Maryland.”

    @TenguPhule: Correction, several wet and unpleasant depressions in Maryland.

  129. 129.

    Kay

    April 20, 2017 at 8:28 pm

    The Tax Cuts will Pay for Itself is back.

    We haven’t heard that since George W Bush. Boy, this Trump fellow is really revolutionary. Very innovative. The same huge tax cuts with no way to pay for them they’ve been doing since Reagan.

  130. 130.

    Teddys Person

    April 20, 2017 at 8:31 pm

    @lamh36: Thanks for posting this lovely tribute (she types through very damp eyes). My favorite part: “leaving a paved road behind you for others to climb on…”

    So very un-Republican, where the motto is “pull up the ladder behind you.”

  131. 131.

    Raoul

    April 20, 2017 at 8:31 pm

    @Ian: Oh, I think staying at 50 is silly. But I also think having two Dakotas is silly, there should be one Dakota. We should probably also have Montdahoe. Or Wytana. (WyIdaHoe?) And create N. California and S. California.

    But, we won’t.

  132. 132.

    Suzanne

    April 20, 2017 at 8:31 pm

    @lamh36: Bernie is really pissing me off. Lord. I will never understand the left’s propensity to piss on each other rather than our real enemies.

  133. 133.

    Duke's Archives

    April 20, 2017 at 8:32 pm

    This ‘waking up with that feeling in the pit of your stomach’ is getting old.

  134. 134.

    Raoul

    April 20, 2017 at 8:36 pm

    @mai naem mobile:

    How come they never say this foreign not part of the US stuff about Alaska which is not part of the mainland US?

    Lots of rugged people in flannel with guns. Oh, I mean rugged white people. If you are Inuit, we’ll trample you for oil and gas leases. So, yeah, energy exploitation too. And precious metals.

    Pineapples and beach vacations can be foreign without upsetting the windbreaker and fanny pack set.

  135. 135.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 20, 2017 at 8:36 pm

    @Suzanne: he’s a petty little narcissist. and an asshole

  136. 136.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    @Kay:

    The Tax Cuts will Pay for Itself is back.

    That 70s show again?

    Karl Rove really needs to DIAF for inflicting this neverending stream of bullshit on us all.

    /c’mon, acceptable target, don’t take away one of life’s small joys from me!

  137. 137.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 20, 2017 at 8:39 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Which is a strong argument to lump GG in with Jefferson FUCKING Beauregard FUCKING Sessions the FUCKING Third and “Dr.” David Duke in the KKK.

  138. 138.

    Gravenstone

    April 20, 2017 at 8:41 pm

    @lamh36: Gee, weren’t there a collection of purity ponies last night telling everyone that the “booing” was no big deal, that you couldn’t even hear it on the tape? Matters not at all from a propaganda standpoint. Good job, Bernie. You fucking imbecile.

  139. 139.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    April 20, 2017 at 8:41 pm

    @Raoul: There are immense problems with separating California into parts, the main one is water.

  140. 140.

    Mnemosyne

    April 20, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    @Timurid:

    I’m still hoping for the United States of Cascadia: Hawaii, California, Oregon, and Washington. Nevada can come, too.

  141. 141.

    Frankensteinbeck

    April 20, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    Hey! Greenwald told me that Democrats only criticize him for liking Ron Paul because we don’t want to admit we like killing babies. Yes, that was his argument.

    @ruemara:
    I’m not sure why, but I love this rant. Maybe it’s the idea of Keanu taking off a wig and going “…I’m actually a man.” and the woman going “OH THANK GOD.”

  142. 142.

    ThresherK

    April 20, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    “Deep Wingnut radio host (Mark Levin)” v. “wider audience”.

    The radio part of the RW pukefunnel is where what little restraint they have of their ids is removed.

    Especially ignored by the nitely nooze is how much more semi-palatable and somewhat cleaned up the TV shows of Hannity, et al, are.

  143. 143.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 20, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    @TenguPhule: Flayed alive. More suitable for such a pig.

  144. 144.

    El Caganer

    April 20, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    The Gnazi Gnome promises a full 4 years of entertainment…well, I mean, as long as you don’t actually live here…

  145. 145.

    lamh36

    April 20, 2017 at 8:48 pm

    @GillianA
    You ready for more of this @davidduchovny? ? #TheXFiles

    YES!

  146. 146.

    Chyron HR

    April 20, 2017 at 8:48 pm

    @lamh36:

    I’ll give the bros this much–if Perez thinks the job of the DNC chair is to give tongue-baths to an evil old man who hates the Democratic party, he sure fucking WASN’T the right guy for the job.

  147. 147.

    Thru the Looking Glass...

    April 20, 2017 at 8:48 pm

    CBS Evening News, West Coast version…

    Talking about Ann Coulter’s upcoming appearance at UC… back on again…

    Very whiny College Republican complaining that ‘conservative voices’ just aren’t welcome on campus… he’s the one who invited Coulter… hard to consider her a ‘serious Conservative voice’… predictable, yes… serious, not…

    Chancellor Dirks blaming recent violence on Black Bloc, who were indeed involved… no mention of NEO-NAZIS coming to Berkeley, who were most definitely also responsible… just the left…

    Dishonest… irresponsible…

    FUCK YOU, CBS…

  148. 148.

    Mnemosyne

    April 20, 2017 at 8:49 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    Greenwald told me that Democrats only criticize him for liking Ron Paul because we don’t want to admit we like killing babies.

    Yeah, look how well voting for “isolationist” Trump is working out for babies in Syria and Yemen!

    I assume GG wasn’t talking about abortion like Sully does. If so, both of those gay men can STFU about something that doesn’t fucking concern them at all.

  149. 149.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    Yeah, look how well voting for “isolationist” Trump is working out for babies in Syria and Yemen!

    Be fair.

    Trump hasn’t ordered attacks on babies in Syria. Yet.

  150. 150.

    debbie

    April 20, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    @lamh36:

    Trump won’t prosecute Wikileaks, no matter what he says. Julian is in Vlad’s pocket and we know where Trump is vis a vis Vlad.

  151. 151.

    Thru the Looking Glass...

    April 20, 2017 at 8:54 pm

    @debbie: Cranial insertion?

  152. 152.

    debbie

    April 20, 2017 at 8:56 pm

    @Thru the Looking Glass…:
    Wrong end.

  153. 153.

    Major Major Major Major

    April 20, 2017 at 8:56 pm

    @Suzanne: I realized this morning (my morning, an hour ago) that he may actually really not understand it isn’t all about him. A politician with even an ounce of sense would be able to moderate their own glorification for a second.

  154. 154.

    Thru the Looking Glass...

    April 20, 2017 at 8:57 pm

    @debbie: I trust you realize what a cranial insertion (on Trump’s part) refers to?

    Let’s just say, Trump could probably peek out Vlad’s mouth w/ just a little more effort…

  155. 155.

    Suzanne

    April 20, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Absolutely. It is 100% a cult of personality and not about good governance.

    I am, however, not sure what to do about that.

  156. 156.

    Thru the Looking Glass...

    April 20, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    Now CBS LOCAL news isn’t mentioning NEO-NAZIS involved in last Saturday’s mass stupidity…

    Chicken-shit college GOP certainly not acknowledging the alt-right either…

    Whattabunch of phonies…

  157. 157.

    debbie

    April 20, 2017 at 9:04 pm

    @Thru the Looking Glass…:

    Okay, now I understand. It has been a very long day.

  158. 158.

    Thru the Looking Glass...

    April 20, 2017 at 9:07 pm

    @debbie: S’okay…

    I believe the full saying is, “Had his head so far up his own rear end, he could almost peek out his own mouth…’

  159. 159.

    psycholinguist

    April 20, 2017 at 9:10 pm

    Jeff Sessions, failed district court nominee from the former confederate state of alabama, blah blah blah. Hey, he DID fail in that nomination, its TRUE.

  160. 160.

    Steve in the ATL

    April 20, 2017 at 9:14 pm

    Betty Cracker doesn’t usually check in this late, but I know a few other Gators do.

    Can we all agree that Tim Tebow is totally gay? Is there any real question about that?

  161. 161.

    Goku

    April 20, 2017 at 9:15 pm

    @Thru the Looking Glass…: That would be impolite. Shrill!

    /German Press, 1930s

  162. 162.

    Major Major Major Major

    April 20, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    @Suzanne: if Sanders can’t be brought to defend the head of the party committee when he’s booed by Sanders’ own supporters he should be let go.

  163. 163.

    TenguPhule

    April 20, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: He could be just exploring all his options on the wide ends.

  164. 164.

    lamh36

    April 20, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    Lordt…this is so true.

    Dude is def easy on the eyes, but his doesn’t have half of his dad’s acting chops (which, IMHO his dad’s acting chops are ok, not Tom Hanks/Denzel/MerylS EPIC, just ok), he is BORING to watch…

    It’s Time to Give Up on Scott Eastwood

  165. 165.

    Suzanne

    April 20, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Yes.

    The problem I see is that I don’t know how we move forward as a party when our coalition is so fragile. I truly don’t comprehend the portion of the left that would rather lose every election than make any sort of compromises.

  166. 166.

    weaselone

    April 20, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    So apparently, Mary McCord, the Department of Justice’s acting Assistant Attorney General for National Security is stepping down next month. Anyone know how this will affect the investigation into Russia’s interference in the election?

  167. 167.

    Steve in the ATL

    April 20, 2017 at 9:25 pm

    @lamh36: after the last election, isn’t it time to give up on white men in general?

    No offense to, you know, me, and my fellow white men–some of us voted the right way!

  168. 168.

    Major Major Major Major

    April 20, 2017 at 9:25 pm

    @Suzanne: Perez is trying, obviously, but certain people just won’t take yes for an answer. I really hope it’s true that there are very few of them, but damn they’re loud and maybe it’s time some of their fellow travelers tried to shut them up.

    @Steve in the ATL:
    Even Al Franken?
    #notallwhitemen

  169. 169.

    Steve in the ATL

    April 20, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: I will defer to you and lamh36 as to how sexxxy Al Franken is!

  170. 170.

    lamh36

    April 20, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    Paul Begala for the win!

    @RawStory
    ‘White-trash Mount Rushmore’: CNN pundit @PaulBegala slams Sarah Palin, Ted Nugent, Kid Rock pic

  171. 171.

    Major Major Major Major

    April 20, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: well I didn’t know we were talking about sexiness.

  172. 172.

    weaselone

    April 20, 2017 at 9:31 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    This is who Bernie is. He wants to gripe about politics to those who will listen and not get his hands dirty with any real work or soil his mind by digging too deeply into any issue. It’s why he got kicked out of the hippie community for talking politics and failing to do any of the actual work. It’s why Clinton was actually more knowledgable about his signature issues of Wall Street and income inequality.

  173. 173.

    Steve in the ATL

    April 20, 2017 at 9:31 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: dude, get with the program. Are you high on drugs over there?

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    lamh36

    April 20, 2017 at 9:32 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: LOL…seriously though…have you seen young Scott in ANY of his movies?

    Off the to of ur head…name a movie he was in that you remember him being in…lol

    As for sexy Al Franken…um…there is always someone who finds someone else sexy…so there are def folks out there to want some sexy time w/Al…I just happen to NOT be one of them…lol

  175. 175.

    Major Major Major Major

    April 20, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    @weaselone: I knew all that, I just figured he had an ounce of self awareness, enough to know that he’ll get further by being a team player, policy-wise yes but also as a celebrity!

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    SiubhanDuinne

    April 20, 2017 at 9:38 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    FWIW, I find Franken very sexy. But I have always had a faiblesse for intellectual Jewish guys.

  177. 177.

    weaselone

    April 20, 2017 at 9:40 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    He’s 80 years old. That’s probably way too much to expect. I’m just hoping he clings to life for another 4 years because I really don’t feel like having him added to the Clinton kill list or dealing with conspiracy theories pinning his death on the Democratic Party.

  178. 178.

    Thru the Looking Glass...

    April 20, 2017 at 9:41 pm

    @Goku: But… but… innit the point?

  179. 179.

    Peale

    April 20, 2017 at 9:42 pm

    @TenguPhule: but the spirit of the law! It’s like giving a ticket to someone going 65 mph on the freeway because the officer knew they wanted to go faster.

  180. 180.

    GregB

    April 20, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    @weaselone:

    Jared Kushner will ve handed this portfolio too.

    All good.

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    Peale

    April 20, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    @lamh36: speaking of white trash…

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    Goku

    April 20, 2017 at 9:47 pm

    @weaselone: I wish he were that old, but alas he’s only 74. Honestly, I think that’s unavoidable with a certain segment of Wilmer supporters

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    weaselone

    April 20, 2017 at 9:48 pm

    @Goku: Huh. For some reason I always think he’s older than 74.

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    Mnemosyne

    April 20, 2017 at 9:52 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    G and I went to see the Broadway show of An American in Paris and at intermission I said, “Why can’t the sarcastic Jewish guy ever get the girl?”

    The dancing in the show was gorgeous (very ballet-based) but the plot was showing its age a bit, even with a few updates. Pressuring a girl until she reluctantly agrees to meet with you is creepy these days.

  185. 185.

    Major Major Major Major

    April 20, 2017 at 9:54 pm

    @weaselone: as long as we’re being ghoulish, I’d rather he didn’t last until 2020.

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    Goku

    April 20, 2017 at 9:58 pm

    @weaselone: Easy mistake. He looks at least 90

  187. 187.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 20, 2017 at 10:02 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    “Why can’t the sarcastic Jewish guy ever get the girl?”

    Inorite? And vice versa.

    I’m not familiar with the B’way An American in Paris. Is it pretty much the Gene Kelly-Leslie Caron filmic version?

  188. 188.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 20, 2017 at 10:06 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Ever seen a Woody Allen movie?

  189. 189.

    debbie

    April 20, 2017 at 10:10 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    “Why can’t the sarcastic Jewish guy ever get the girl?”

    Because they can’t stop running their mouths.

  190. 190.

    debbie

    April 20, 2017 at 10:13 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Woody ended up with the girl because he wrote, directed, produced, and was otherwise in charge. His movie is his fantasy.

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    Omnes Omnibus

    April 20, 2017 at 10:17 pm

    @debbie: Nevertheless, the sarcastic Jewish guy got the girl. My only point.

  192. 192.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 20, 2017 at 10:20 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I have, yes, but my preference would be for a sarcastic intellectual Jewish guy who is not also a sexual creep. That’s probably just me.

  193. 193.

    lamh36

    April 20, 2017 at 10:20 pm

    The internet is perplexed about the budgets on “House Hunters”

    huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-internet-is-perplexed-about-the-budgets-on-house-hunters_us_58f8e2c5e4b…

    I certainly do when I watch…

  194. 194.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 20, 2017 at 10:25 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Roman Polanski?

  195. 195.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 20, 2017 at 10:25 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: or SPOILER ALERT! When Harry Met Sally?

    Defending Your Life?

  196. 196.

    Major Major Major Major

    April 20, 2017 at 10:26 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: in the movies Allen isn’t a creep.

  197. 197.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 20, 2017 at 10:28 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: True as well.

  198. 198.

    debbie

    April 20, 2017 at 10:29 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    You found it believable that Mariel Hemingway would fall for a middle-aged schlub?

  199. 199.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 20, 2017 at 10:30 pm

    @debbie: You are moving the goalposts.

  200. 200.

    Major Major Major Major

    April 20, 2017 at 10:32 pm

    @debbie: @Omnes Omnibus: the original metric was indeed that the movie exist.

  201. 201.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 20, 2017 at 10:32 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Roman Polanski?

    Indeed. Also Gérard Depardieu.

    @Major Major Major Major:

    in the movies Allen isn’t a creep.

    That is true. He is a fairly talented actor, and a truly brilliant writer and director, and I admire him lavishly in those roles. But the discussion is whether I’m attracted to him sexually, and the answer is NO, and that is largely because of what I know about his private life.

  202. 202.

    Steve in the ATL

    April 20, 2017 at 10:36 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Fielding Mellish wasn’t a stone fox? You are losing all credibility here.

  203. 203.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 20, 2017 at 10:36 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Is Depardieu Jewish or sarcastic?

  204. 204.

    debbie

    April 20, 2017 at 10:42 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Yes, I did go a little off-track. Apologies.

  205. 205.

    Robert Speed

    April 20, 2017 at 10:42 pm

    I guess Pearl harbor is just slack water port filled with drunk and stoned sailors.

  206. 206.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 20, 2017 at 10:50 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    You are losing all credibility here.

    How so? I am saying who I am/am not attracted to. How do you or anyone else gainsay my personal preferences?

  207. 207.

    JoeyJoeJoe Junior Shabadoo

    April 20, 2017 at 10:50 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    There’s also Jay Sherman from The Critic.

  208. 208.

    Achrachno

    April 20, 2017 at 10:51 pm

    @Raoul: Throw in Wyoming with the Dakotas and it’d be a good deal. I think PR would still have more citizens though.

  209. 209.

    LeonS

    April 20, 2017 at 10:52 pm

    Gee, wasn’t Hawaii important in some war or another? Gem port or something like that?

  210. 210.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 20, 2017 at 10:54 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Is Depardieu Jewish or sarcastic?

    Not Jewish AFAIK, and my apologies for moving the goalposts. I started thinking more broadly of actors I will not support because of their personal behavior.

    And before you ask, no, I am not 100% consistent.

  211. 211.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 20, 2017 at 10:57 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I was just trying to be consistent. I was given a category.

  212. 212.

    Suzanne

    April 20, 2017 at 11:04 pm

    I have netiboarded myself four times this evening. So much snot.

  213. 213.

    trollhattan

    April 20, 2017 at 11:15 pm

    @lamh36:
    Oh hell yes! The reboot episode with Murray from Flight of the Conchords as the man-lizard was letter-perfect. Plus, I’d crawl over broken glass for Gillian Anderson. Just sayin’.

  214. 214.

    Captain C

    April 20, 2017 at 11:42 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Drunk.

  215. 215.

    Mnemosyne

    April 21, 2017 at 12:21 am

    @Suzanne:

    It’s possible that you’ve also caught that nasty cold virus that’s been making its way across the country. My nose was a goddamned spigot for three solid weeks, and the cough literally almost killed me when I suddenly had to cough with a bite of food in my mouth and it got stuck in my throat.

  216. 216.

    Bostonian

    April 21, 2017 at 5:13 am

    Am I the only one who immediately heard Anita O’Day in his head?

    He’s on an island
    in the Pacific
    And everything about him
    is terrific.
    Harvard JD, lovely family, and
    judicial stay on The Ban…

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