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You are here: Home / Foreign Affairs / Something Is Happening At Buckingham Palace

Something Is Happening At Buckingham Palace

by Cheryl Rofer|  May 3, 201711:55 pm| 120 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs

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Just a few Twitter rumors for now, but it looks serious.

QUEEN Elizabeth II’s entire staff from across the United Kingdom has been summoned to an emergency meeting at Buckingham Palace in London today, according to reports.
Servants will be addressed by the Royal Household’s most senior officer Lord Chamberlain and Her Majesty’s Private Secretary Sir Christopher Geidt in just hours.

The only specific I’ve seen is that Prince Philip has died, but those tweets say that needs to be confirmed.

The Guardian had a long article in March on what will happen when Queen Elizabeth dies.

The United States doesn’t currently have an ambassador to the Court of St. James’s, rather a career foreign service officer is the chargé d’affaires.

I guess the twentieth century is finally ending.

 

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  1. 1.

    lamh36

    May 4, 2017 at 12:03 am

    If true RIP. 95 is a long life…good or bad…

  2. 2.

    Mike in NC

    May 4, 2017 at 12:04 am

    Not going to quote The Clash here…

  3. 3.

    Oatler.

    May 4, 2017 at 12:05 am

    Heads will roll!
    The ravens have fled the Tower!

  4. 4.

    Davebo

    May 4, 2017 at 12:05 am

    Thanks for the tip. Just had dinner with 3 Brits (and a Austrian and a Romanian) and clued them in.

  5. 5.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 4, 2017 at 12:09 am

    @Mike in NC: The Clash?

  6. 6.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 4, 2017 at 12:10 am

    The Deputy Chief of Mission/Charge de Affairs is not just a career foreign service officer. He or she is a Senior Foreign Service Officer, which is the pay grade and rank equivalent of a general officer/flag officer, and is an ambassador in his or her own right. So while it would be nice, let alone appropriate and proper to actually have a Senate confirmed ambassador that has presented credentials to the Court of St. James and had them accepted, the current leadership of Embassy London is a career diplomat who is an ambassador.

  7. 7.

    Sab

    May 4, 2017 at 12:11 am

    So sorry for the Queen. I am adamantly not a monarchist, but she has been a very decent human being for her entire life and I am very sorry for her loss.

  8. 8.

    Yarrow

    May 4, 2017 at 12:12 am

    I hope it’s nothing, but doesn’t seem likely. Apparently protocol dictates palace announcements at 8:00 a.m. their time. We’ll have to wait.

  9. 9.

    efgoldman

    May 4, 2017 at 12:14 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    the current leadership of Embassy London is a career diplomat who is an ambassador.

    And certainly well more qualified than anybody Mango Malignancy would appoint

  10. 10.

    Major Major Major Major

    May 4, 2017 at 12:17 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: it’s an old punk band, you’ve probably never heard of them.

  11. 11.

    Cheryl Rofer

    May 4, 2017 at 12:17 am

    @Adam L Silverman: I agree that a chargé is a capable person who can handle things well for the US, likely better than Joe the Plumber or equivalent Trump nominee. (Has Trump nominated an ambassador to the Court of St. James’s?) But they are not ambassadors in the formal sense.

  12. 12.

    Lizzy L

    May 4, 2017 at 12:18 am

    New Zealand media says that Buckingham Palace has told them that neither the Queen nor Prince Philip has died. (Breanna Barraclough on Twitter.)

  13. 13.

    Bitter Scribe

    May 4, 2017 at 12:18 am

    I can’t help feeling just a little sorry for Prince Charles. The poor bastard is 68 years old and has spent more time waiting for his parent to die than any Prince of Wales in British history. His efforts to be relevant and say meaningful things about contemporary life have met with consistent ridicule. And his life hasn’t been any bed of roses, according to a recent bio. In an act of borderline child abuse, he was sent far from home to a horrible boarding school in Scotland where he was ostracized and often beaten up. The sainted Princess Diana also abused him, mentally and often physically. When he does get to be king, I hope he enjoys it, for whatever time he has left.

  14. 14.

    Yarrow

    May 4, 2017 at 12:19 am

    @Major Major Major Major: LOL! That made me laugh.

    @Lizzy L: Oh! I hope that’s true and that everyone is okay.

  15. 15.

    rikyrah

    May 4, 2017 at 12:21 am

    Awe.??

  16. 16.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 4, 2017 at 12:21 am

    @efgoldman: US Ambassador to the Court of St. James, depending on administration (and GOP or Democratic often isn’t indicative), bounces back and forth between a career diplomat as ambassador and the appointment of a major donor or political benefactor. When it is the latter, as is the case everywhere that the ambassadorial appointment is political rather than career foreign service, the Deputy Chief of Mission is always a Senior Foreign Service Officer career diplomat who has earned ambassadorial rank. In Israel it is even more complicated. The US Ambassador to Israel is almost always, regardless of administration or Party, a political appointee – often a major Jewish American benefactor of the President. That ambassador always has a Senior Foreign Service Officer career diplomat of ambassadorial rank as the Deputy Chief of Mission at US Embassy Tel Aviv. At the Consul General (CONGEN) in Jerusalem, which is both the oldest American diplomatic outpost/embassy (it was the embassy to the Ottoman sultanate) and the diplomatic outpost between the US and the Palestinians, the Consul General is always a career Senior Foreign Service Officer with ambassadorial rank.

  17. 17.

    Chris

    May 4, 2017 at 12:22 am

    @Sab:

    I too am staunchly anti monarchist, but honestly, Britain isn’t a monarchy. It’s a parliamentary democracy with a state sponsored mascot family. And if the mascot is what it takes to give the traditionalist conservatives warm fuzzy feelings and accept the system, well, let’s just let the baby have the bottle.

    And, as you say, she’s been pretty awesome for a whole century. RIP if he really has passed.

  18. 18.

    efgoldman

    May 4, 2017 at 12:23 am

    @Bitter Scribe:

    When he does get to be king

    Which is never. His affair with Camilla and his divorce bumped him out of the line of succession

  19. 19.

    amk

    May 4, 2017 at 12:24 am

    Nothing yet on beebs. Even if it is true, not a great loss. He was an asshole.

  20. 20.

    hitchhiker

    May 4, 2017 at 12:26 am

    Remember that time the Beatles played for the Queen and John Lennon got cheeky?

    Lovely moment.

  21. 21.

    Major Major Major Major

    May 4, 2017 at 12:27 am

    This is all a plot by Trump and Bannon to distract the world while congress sets fire to the safety net and loots the treasury tomorrow.

  22. 22.

    Mike J

    May 4, 2017 at 12:28 am

    @amk: BBC won’t break embargo on a death in the royal family.

  23. 23.

    PhoenixRising

    May 4, 2017 at 12:29 am

    @efgoldman: winner winner chicken dinner!

    DCMs all over this troubled world are better off just doing the job without having to fend off stupidity from the political appointees Orange Julius Caesar would cough up.

    As to the 20th: Yup, that is one dead parrot. Tomorrow we fight the plutocrats again, my friends.

  24. 24.

    Bitter Scribe

    May 4, 2017 at 12:31 am

    @efgoldman: His affair with Camilla and his divorce bumped him out of the line of succession

    I don’t know where you’re getting that. The only way he won’t be king is if he dies before Mum.

  25. 25.

    Anya

    May 4, 2017 at 12:32 am

    @Lizzy L: Maybe the Queen will abdicate and Charles will be king.

    @Bitter Scribe: I am on Prince Charles side. I don’t actually care about his personal life. He’s a staunch envirmentalist, he’s a tireless supporter of lots of worthwile charities, among them Muslim charities and I often agree with him on architects. If he was handsome he would’ve had a different relationship with the media.

  26. 26.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 4, 2017 at 12:33 am

    @Cheryl Rofer: As far as I know there is no Ambassador-designate to the Court of St. James. And I’m not arguing your point that we don’t have a formally nominated, Senate confirmed, and accepted by Her Majesty’s government ambassador in London. I was simply providing the inside context that we have a career diplomat with earned civilian equivalent rank and grade to a general officer/flag officer who also has earned rank and title of ambassador running the embassy. In fact running every US embassy right now. So while it is a major issue that the President has only nominated a handful of ambassadors and none, as far as I know, have been confirmed, we have actual by rank and title ambassadors running our embassies. In simple terms: the people currently acting as the formal, recognized ambassadors are themselves ambassadors.

  27. 27.

    Ric Drywall

    May 4, 2017 at 12:35 am

    Court of St. James’s, not Court of St. James (Cheryl got it right)

  28. 28.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    May 4, 2017 at 12:35 am

    @efgoldman:

    Which is never. His affair with Camilla and his divorce bumped him out of the line of succession

    It’s not 1936 anymore, he’ll be king when his mother passes.

  29. 29.

    Bitter Scribe

    May 4, 2017 at 12:35 am

    Something I read about Queen Elizabeth that really moved me:

    A physician who had done a lot of volunteer work in Syria was being honored and was seated at dinner next to the Queen. This man, as you might imagine, had seen indescribable horrors. The Queen asked him what things were like in Syria, and he found himself literally unable to say anything.

    The Queen understood and called for a pair of her Corgi dogs to be brought over. She and the doctor petted them under the table and she said, “There, isn’t that better than talking?”

  30. 30.

    Chris

    May 4, 2017 at 12:41 am

    @Bitter Scribe:

    Having lived through the blitz, I imagine she knows better than most what it’s like.

  31. 31.

    mdblanche

    May 4, 2017 at 12:42 am

    @Anya: I can’t see the Queen ever abdicating; too many bad memories of when her uncle Edward did that. She especially wouldn’t do that now since the UK is in the middle of an election.

  32. 32.

    Calouste

    May 4, 2017 at 12:46 am

    I think the Queen is just calling in her staff to tell them not to let that annoying May woman in next time she calls. The only thing she ever wants to talk is “Bridgett”, she is such a bore. Whatever happened to that David who used to visit each week? He was such a nice polite young man, and so fond of animals, specially pigs.

  33. 33.

    Emma

    May 4, 2017 at 12:49 am

    @efgoldman: what are you talking about? He is the Prince of Wales. By definition he will be the next king.

  34. 34.

    mai naem mobile

    May 4, 2017 at 12:50 am

    I never understood what Elizabeth saw in Philip. He wasn’t a hunk and he comes across as a bit of a racist sexist prick. I’m guessing there must have been some kind of political advantage to the union or there wasn’t another suitable royal available for her at that time .

  35. 35.

    trollhattan

    May 4, 2017 at 12:50 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    ‘ex ‘istols. Kidz these days.

    I see nary a peep anywhere, but they do play things close to the vest and besides, they’re out of practice.

  36. 36.

    Betsy

    May 4, 2017 at 12:51 am

    Why should she abdicate!? She’s a perfectly good queen and it’s the height of misogyny and ageism to suggest that she just roll over so a younger man can have the job.

    If her health or mental acuity become an issue then it would be reasonable. Until then, give a damn matriarch her due.

  37. 37.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    May 4, 2017 at 12:52 am

    @Calouste:

    Whatever happened to that David who used to visit each week? He was such a nice polite young man, and so fond of animals, specially pigs.

    ROTFLMAO.

  38. 38.

    efgoldman

    May 4, 2017 at 12:52 am

    @Bitter Scribe:

    The Queen understood and called for a pair of her Corgi dogs to be brought over. She and the doctor petted them under the table and she said, “There, isn’t that better than talking?”

    It would have been really, really easy for the royals to be assholes. That Elizabeth has been as unfailingly gracious as she has, for as long as she has, is a lot more than just noblesse oblige

  39. 39.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    May 4, 2017 at 12:53 am

    @Betsy: Maybe she doesn’t want to have to host the Shitgibbon.

  40. 40.

    Yarrow

    May 4, 2017 at 12:54 am

    @mdblanche: And even if she did decide to abdicate now, she certainly wouldn’t gather her advisers at 3:00 a.m. to let them know.

  41. 41.

    Betsy

    May 4, 2017 at 12:55 am

    @Betsy: PS She makes a damn sight more sense than silly Prince Charles.

  42. 42.

    Betsy

    May 4, 2017 at 12:57 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Revolting as that would be to endure, she’s no coward, nor has she ever shrunk from her duty. I think one sure thing we can acknowledge about this queen, she is supremely dutiful.

  43. 43.

    sab

    May 4, 2017 at 12:58 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Twerp

  44. 44.

    James Powell

    May 4, 2017 at 1:00 am

    @efgoldman:

    Charles is still heir apparent. Wikipedia says so.

  45. 45.

    Dee

    May 4, 2017 at 1:09 am

    @Yarrow:
    exactly

  46. 46.

    Cookie monster

    May 4, 2017 at 1:13 am

    @mai naem mobile: I don’t especially disagree with your assessment of his character, but Philip was very much the choice of the then Princess Elizabeth, and considered quite a controversial one at the time – though technically a prince, he was without much but a title and an RN rank. She had plenty of other suitors considered better choices by the Govt. of the time.

  47. 47.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    May 4, 2017 at 1:14 am

    @Betsy: I understand, and thought the snark was obvious.

  48. 48.

    NotMax

    May 4, 2017 at 1:22 am

    Cut a deal to turn Buckingham Palace into a Trump hotel?

    Liz finally discovered that she and Philip are cousins* and is demanding a divorce?

    *In truth, they are.

  49. 49.

    Raven Onthill

    May 4, 2017 at 1:25 am

    Maybe she’s going to veto Brexit. :-P

  50. 50.

    Betsy

    May 4, 2017 at 1:34 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: it was obvious; my reply was quite sideways to your humorous remark

  51. 51.

    Betsy

    May 4, 2017 at 1:36 am

    @Raven Onthill: kinda like the electoral college saved the Republic from Trump. Oh well

  52. 52.

    Mnemosyne

    May 4, 2017 at 1:36 am

    @efgoldman:

    Charles will be king, but the agreement is that Camilla will never be queen. That’s enforceable even after Queen Elizabeth’s death because the Archbishop of Canterbury would have to agree to Camilla’s coronation and she doesn’t get to be a queen without one.

  53. 53.

    Suzanne

    May 4, 2017 at 1:38 am

    I very much admire QEII, and if this is true, I hope she hangs in there okay. Prince Charles is a douche with the bad taste of an old man who hates CHAAAAAANGE, and feh. Wills and Harry, and their significant others and children, are much better.

  54. 54.

    Mnemosyne

    May 4, 2017 at 1:42 am

    Okay, I had to look it up — Camilla’s current title is Duchess of Cornwall, because she agreed not to be the Princess of Wales. When Charles inherits, he will be King and she will become Princess Consort, similar to Prince Philip’s title.

    The next Queen of England (and next Princess of Wales) is Kate Middleton, but it’s gonna be a while before she gets there.

  55. 55.

    Amir Khalid

    May 4, 2017 at 1:44 am

    @Calouste:
    Not that, surely. That weekly briefing is on both their work schedules. Plus, Her Majesty doesn’t just sit dumbly through the briefing, nor hold back on what are said to be very knowledgeable comments, questions and suggestions. Remember, she’s been taking these briefings since before Theresa May was born.

  56. 56.

    Anne Laurie

    May 4, 2017 at 1:44 am

    Morbid humor: What if it turns out the Queen and her consort are fine, but Charles has died… Sixty-plus years of being ‘The Emergency Backup’ hasn’t exactly been a low-stress life, poor dumb bastid. He’d’ve been happier making a career in the Army, and he could’ve married Camilla while they were both young.

    We’ll know in a couple of hours, regardless.

  57. 57.

    Mnemosyne

    May 4, 2017 at 1:45 am

    @Anne Laurie:

    I’m starting to wonder that myself.

  58. 58.

    Mary G

    May 4, 2017 at 1:48 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: That was my first thought. Twitler has been demanding to ride through the streets of London with her in the gilded horse-drawn carriage and that is a huge expense and hassle. Obama, of course, took his usual car.

  59. 59.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    May 4, 2017 at 1:50 am

    @Mary G: He also demanded to golf at her(not the government’s) private golf course.

  60. 60.

    SC54HI

    May 4, 2017 at 1:51 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    we have a career diplomat with earned civilian equivalent rank and grade to a general officer/flag officer who also has earned rank and title of ambassador running the embassy. In fact running every US embassy right now.

    Better them than some asshat tRump appointee.

  61. 61.

    Anne Laurie

    May 4, 2017 at 1:52 am

    @mai naem mobile:

    I never understood what Elizabeth saw in Philip.

    Best I can understand it, Phil the Greek was one of those sexy bad boys that proper young ladies fall for — although comparing their romance to Grease would probably fall under the treason statutes. As royal marriages go, it doesn’t seem to have been too bad, so more points to young Lilibet for chosing well.

  62. 62.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 4, 2017 at 1:53 am

    @Anne Laurie:

    According to FB sources, confirmed that Prince Philip has died.

    R.I.P.

  63. 63.

    Amir Khalid

    May 4, 2017 at 1:58 am

    @Anne Laurie:
    Charles was Royal Navy, like his dad and his mum’s dad.

  64. 64.

    columbusqueen

    May 4, 2017 at 1:58 am

    @mai naem mobile: Then you haven’t seen photos of Philip in his salad days–he was a hunk, a blond viking type who was tres swoon-worthy.

  65. 65.

    ??‍? Martin

    May 4, 2017 at 2:03 am

    I think the queen has decided this colonial excursion of ours has gone on long enough. “Look, we’re out of the EU and the US is clearly too drunk to go on, let’s just annex them and put things back as they were.”

  66. 66.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 4, 2017 at 2:05 am

    @Anne Laurie: There is absolutely no reporting on this at any of the British news sites. Nor on their twitter feeds. Nothing, nada.

  67. 67.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 4, 2017 at 2:11 am

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    And no sooner are they citing absolute confirmation than announcements go up from the Palace stating that both The Queen and her husband are alive and well.

  68. 68.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 4, 2017 at 2:13 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: Again: there is nothing being reported even about an emergency meeting at the BBC, The Guardian, The Times of London, The Independent, their twitter feeds, or any other British news source. I’m not saying something may not be going on. I’m not saying this emergency meeting at the palace isn’t actually happening. But I find it highly strange that none of the major UK news sources/outlets is reporting anything.

  69. 69.

    piratedan

    May 4, 2017 at 2:14 am

    @Adam L Silverman: well MI-5 does have the ability to put the kibosh on the press depending upon the nature of the “emergency” (supposedly)

  70. 70.

    fuckwit

    May 4, 2017 at 2:15 am

    @??‍? Martin: Except they’ve clearly been on the piss as well.

  71. 71.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 4, 2017 at 2:16 am

    @efgoldman:

    Which is never. His affair with Camilla and his divorce bumped him out of the line of succession

    Sorry, this is just plain flat-out untrue.

  72. 72.

    fuckwit

    May 4, 2017 at 2:16 am

    @Adam L Silverman: It’s Russian dezinformatsiya.

  73. 73.

    Amir Khalid

    May 4, 2017 at 2:19 am

    @Adam L Silverman:
    I’m sure that this is just a general staff meeting. They’re rare at the Palace, but they do happen.

  74. 74.

    CarolDuhart2

    May 4, 2017 at 2:19 am

    I read the “London Bridge” article at the Guardian. There is a strict protocol for this: and no one is going to break the protocol.

    Palaces these days don’t do 3am anymore. Something has happened that is very grave indeed. Anything else can wait until the morning for meetings, since the actual work of state is now done elsewhere, and there is no need for instant response.

    I suspect it’s either the Queen or Philip. In any case, a peaceful passing. (anything else would have been picked up by other press-like it was for Diana)

  75. 75.

    CarolDuhart2

    May 4, 2017 at 2:22 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: No longer true after Edward VIII. The Church of England changed the rules regarding divorce, so Charles can now succeed Elizabeth.

  76. 76.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 4, 2017 at 2:24 am

    @Anne Laurie:

    Once the denial about Philip came through, I started wondering that myself. Certainly not unheard of for a 68-year-old man to take suddenly ill. Although, as with every senior Royal, there would be protocols in place. Never heard of this kind of flurried “emergency meeting” before.

  77. 77.

    CarolDuhart2

    May 4, 2017 at 2:28 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: It’s been so long since a truly big royal has died (not counting Diana) that we really don’t know how a sudden end would be handled that wasn’t accidental. The King’s death (1952) and the previous monarch’s (1937) was hardly unexpected, so no emergency meetings.

  78. 78.

    Anne Laurie

    May 4, 2017 at 2:28 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Charles was Royal Navy, like his dad and his mum’s dad.

    Oops. Bet Camilla would’ve settled, though — I can see her as a modern version of Admiral Wentworth’s wife in Jane Austen’s Persuasion, a ‘square, solid, well-built woman’ who ‘by dint of putting out her hand, kept her husband from tipping the carriage into the ditch, or running afoul of a cart… actions, Anne suspected, not unrepresentative of their marriage.’ [from memory]

  79. 79.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 4, 2017 at 2:29 am

    @fuckwit: Doubtful. More likely someone heard something wrong, mentioned it to someone else, and it got picked up by the reporter from the Australian news organization Cheryl referenced at the top of the post.

  80. 80.

    SFBayAreaGal

    May 4, 2017 at 2:33 am

    CNN is now reporting about meeting at the palace

  81. 81.

    Anne Laurie

    May 4, 2017 at 2:33 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: I think you two are arguing about the difference between ‘literally’ (Charles could insist Camilla be called Queen) and ‘seriously’ (he won’t, should the day ever come, because it’s been settled that she can be Consort, like his old man was).

  82. 82.

    Mnemosyne

    May 4, 2017 at 2:34 am

    @CarolDuhart2:

    Not to mention that he and Camilla married after Diana died, so even in the eyes of the church, he was a widower when he married a second time.

    But Camilla’s first husband is still alive and was alive at the time of her marriage to Charles, which is one of several reasons why she agreed never to be crowned queen consort.

  83. 83.

    Mnemosyne

    May 4, 2017 at 2:36 am

    @Anne Laurie:

    Camilla can’t be queen unless the Archbishop of Canturbury agrees to coronate her, and I doubt he would. That doesn’t mean that Charles won’t be king, though.

  84. 84.

    SFBayAreaGal

    May 4, 2017 at 2:36 am

    Of course this was reported by someone on Twitter:

    Ro Pi
    Twitter › TheRAP1966

    I’m hearing very strong and credible rumours that nobody has the faintest idea why the #BuckinghamPalace meeting has been called

  85. 85.

    Mustang Bobby

    May 4, 2017 at 2:50 am

    At 2:48 a.m. EDT the BBC website had nothing about anything at Buckingham Palace. Their lead story is that Macron won the French presidential debate.

  86. 86.

    opiejeanne

    May 4, 2017 at 2:56 am

    Well, in 5 minutes it will be 8am in London, if I haven’t screwed up my calculations. We should know shortly.

  87. 87.

    Raven Onthill

    May 4, 2017 at 2:59 am

    “[somewhere inside Buckingham Palace] ‘Everything’s fine. I just wanted to fuck Trump out of some attention today.'” — shauna on Twitter

  88. 88.

    Adam L Silverman

    May 4, 2017 at 3:05 am

    @opiejeanne: Now we know:

    There'll be a staff meeting at Buckingham Palace this morning. It's not to do with the health of either the Queen or Prince Philip.

    — Peter Hunt (@BBCPeterHunt) May 4, 2017

  89. 89.

    Mike J

    May 4, 2017 at 3:13 am

    Betty has decided Brexit is bullshit and is packing up the whole Saxe-Coburg-Gotha clan to move home to Germany.

  90. 90.

    Amir Khalid

    May 4, 2017 at 3:18 am

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Aha! I was right!

  91. 91.

    Elizabelle

    May 4, 2017 at 3:24 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Drama addict:

    But it does not say anything about Charles’ health. (And who cares about Camilla?)

    @Amir Khalid: Good morning, sir.

  92. 92.

    eemom

    May 4, 2017 at 3:28 am

    Why the fuck do we in this godforsaken mess of a country, and especially here on a liberal website — where we rightfully make fun of things like trump tower — care so much about kings and queens and princes who, whether “good people” or not, have lived obscenely privileged lives in palaces because they’re….”royal”? Someone riddle me that one plz.

  93. 93.

    Amir Khalid

    May 4, 2017 at 3:37 am

    @Elizabelle:
    It’s afternoon over here. But good morning to you, too.

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    Anne Laurie

    May 4, 2017 at 3:38 am

    Palace meeting’s been moved from 8am to 10am, per the BBC — any left-coaster waiting for news might as well go to bed now.

    (If I were a real reporter I’d probably have to hold the Early Morning Open Thread open, I guess.)

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    Amir Khalid

    May 4, 2017 at 3:43 am

    @eemom:
    Like it or not, the British Royal Family are global celebrities.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 4, 2017 at 3:45 am

    @Anne Laurie: Morbid humor: What if it turns out the Queen and her consort are fine, but Charles has died… Sixty-plus years of being ‘The Emergency Backup’ hasn’t exactly been a low-stress life,

    Craig Ferguson used to do a hilarious (to me) imitation of a creepy Charles saying “Drink your juice, Mother…”. Maybe it’s been “Drink your juice, Charles…” all this time.

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    MomSense

    May 4, 2017 at 4:01 am

    After meeting with May she probably came to the conclusion that her people and their bumbling public servants had gone terribly astray. Hoping she has some little known constitutional safery switch she can use to stop the Brexit madness.

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    Keith G

    May 4, 2017 at 4:07 am

    Top of the hour BBC Radio 4 reports the meeting but says it is not about the health of the Monarch or Prince Philip.

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    Elizabelle

    May 4, 2017 at 4:11 am

    @Amir Khalid: Happy afternoon to you and young Bianca. Tea time for you, coffee time for me.

  100. 100.

    piratedan

    May 4, 2017 at 4:14 am

    hell… for all we know the Brits may drop the other shoe regarding Trump and the Russians….

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 4, 2017 at 4:28 am

    @MomSense: There were rumors that she was pro-Brexit, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there are people in her orbit who leak right-leaning rumors to advance their own agenda. Phillip, for example, probably thinks Churchill was half a commie.

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    Sloane Ranger

    May 4, 2017 at 4:30 am

    My best guess is it’s​ about some internal reorganisation. Worse case scenario is redundancies, best case an announcement that the Queen and Phillip will no longer be visiting certain properties which will be opened to the public for longer.

  103. 103.

    Amir Khalid

    May 4, 2017 at 4:30 am

    @Elizabelle:
    Bianca is 13 years old — no youngster, alas. But she says thank you kindly.

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    Keith P.

    May 4, 2017 at 4:33 am

    @Lizzy L: Once all the staff gathers, Prince Phillip is going to run in yelling ‘CANNON-BALL!!!!”

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    Robert Sneddon

    May 4, 2017 at 4:53 am

    @eemom: Why the fuck do we in this godforsaken mess of a country, and especially here on a liberal website — where we rightfully make fun of things like trump tower — care so much about Presidents and Senators and congressmen who, whether “good people” or not, have lived obscenely privileged lives in palaces because they’re….”elected”? Someone riddle me that one plz.

  106. 106.

    Joey Maloney

    May 4, 2017 at 4:57 am

    It’s probably best that the USA’s senior diplomat is career FS and not whatever clownishly vomitous piece of refuse the Trump admin will eventually hork up into the position.

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    ThresherK

    May 4, 2017 at 5:00 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Now all I can think of is the glowing glass of poisoned milk in the Hitchcock’s Suspicion.

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    Bruce K

    May 4, 2017 at 5:04 am

    @MomSense: I think that technically, the Crown can withhold royal assent to bills that have passed through Parliament – royal assent in the UK is basically the equivalent of the President signing a Congressional bill into law, except that in the UK it’s less a check-and-balance thing and more of a formality.

    So, technically, the Crown gets a veto; realistically, the Crown gets one veto, so it’d take something extraordinary to precipitate that. (Scottish author Charlie Stross pointed out that even territories leaving the British Empire and declaring their independence didn’t rise to that level.)

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    Elaine

    May 4, 2017 at 5:10 am

    I have just this minute read that the meeting was to announce that Prince Phillip will no longer carry out official duties from later this year.

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    Elizabelle

    May 4, 2017 at 5:15 am

    The Guardian put up a story about 45 minutes or so ago.
    Royal sources scotch Prince Philip rumour ahead of emergency meeting

    News that Buckingham Palace had summoned royal household staff for an emergency meeting prompted a flurry of speculation overnight about the health of the Queen and Prince Philip.

    Royal sources said there was “no cause for alarm” about the couple’s health but gave no further indication as to the reason for the meeting. They said such all-staff meetings did occur occasionally.

    The BBC reported that the meeting was being held at 10am on Thursday.

    The Sun briefly published on its website – and then swiftly removed – an article about the Duke of Edinburgh’s death, titled “Prince Philip dead at 95, how did the Duke of Edinburgh die, etc etc”.

    The Daily Mail reported shortly after midnight that staff from the Queen’s residences across the UK had been ordered to London by senior palace aides for the emergency meeting on Thursday morning.

    An unnamed source told the paper: “Although meetings involving the entire royal household are occasionally called, the way this has been done at the 11th hour is highly unusual and suggests that there is something major to be disseminated.”

    The Queen, the world’s longest-reigning living monarch, celebrated her 91st birthday last month. Philip turns 96 next month.

    The Queen met Theresa May on Wednesday to formally agree to the dissolution of parliament before June’s election, while Philip opened a new stand at Lord’s cricket ground in central London.

    The Mail reported that the royal staff would be addressed by the lord chamberlain, the most senior officer of the royal household, and the Queen’s private secretary, Sir Christopher Geidt.

    Does kinda sound like a reorganization, as sloane ranger suggested.

    Continuing to rumour-monger, though, could also be staff plan for dealing with recent terminal diagnosis for one of the olds. Or of another Royal family member.

    But could be something else entirely. Would be cool to know if “emergency meeting” means once every two years, or 1-2 times a year or what ….

  111. 111.

    SiubhanDuinne

    May 4, 2017 at 5:16 am

    Not sure if this thread still has a pulse* but reposting from upstairs:

    BBC just reported that the Duke of Edinburgh (Prince PHILIP) will stop doing official engagements effective this coming autumn “with the full support of The Queen.” The Queen will continue to make visits and undertake official engagements. Details coming later in the hour, but apparently that’s what all the excitement was about.

    Good. Glad it isn’t anything more dire.

    *******

    *(Maybe a thready pulse.)

  112. 112.

    Origuy

    May 4, 2017 at 5:17 am

    Here’s the announcement, from the BBC.

    The Duke of Edinburgh is retiring from royal duties this autumn, Buckingham Palace has announced.
    The decision was made by Prince Philip himself and is supported by the Queen, a palace spokesman said.
    Prince Philip turns 96 next month.

    As Cole said on Twitter, a 95 year old man retiring is not breaking news.

  113. 113.

    Elizabelle

    May 4, 2017 at 5:23 am

    FWIW, here’s the Guardian’s long article, earlier this year, on plans in place for QE2s’s demise.

    ‘London Bridge is down’: the secret plan for the days after the Queen’s death
    She is venerated around the world. She has outlasted 12 US presidents. She stands for stability and order. But her kingdom is in turmoil, and her subjects are in denial that her reign will ever end. That’s why the palace has a plan.

    I hope Liz outlasts Trump. I hope we all do.

  114. 114.

    Anya

    May 4, 2017 at 6:33 am

    @Betsy: There’s no misogyny and ageism intended. Maybe the queen is stepping aside so that her son can be king or maybe she’s tired of all the bs that comes with being a queen. People retire all the damn time. It has nothing to do with ageism or misogyny to speculate.

  115. 115.

    Cheryl Rofer

    May 4, 2017 at 7:53 am

    This appears to be the announcement.

    The Duke of Edinburgh is retiring from royal duties this autumn, Buckingham Palace has announced.
    The decision was made by Prince Philip himself and is supported by the Queen, a palace spokesman said.
    The duke, who turns 96 next month, will attend previously scheduled engagements between now and August but will not accept new invitations.
    The Queen “will continue to carry out a full programme of official engagements”, the palace said.

    And (I’m right up there with the long-time BJ pedants) it’s Court of St. James’s. It’s short for St. James’s Palace, which is the diplomatic center for the UK. Hence the odd possessive.

    I’ll stick to my point on chargés and ambassadors too. A chargé acts in place of an ambassador but is not an ambassador. Wikipedia has an explanation that is the same as what I understand. I’ll take Adam’s word for their equivalency to military general officers. The Foreign Service is arranged that way, and those rank equivalences are, I believe, formal. The Public Health Service also has a military-like rank setup.

    I have a friend who has been both a chargé and an ambassador. She differentiates the two, as do other friends who have been or are in the Foreign Service. All this is a bit much for someone who has spent her professional life in an organization that has one job title for professionals, so it’s been impressed on me.

  116. 116.

    Hunter

    May 4, 2017 at 9:05 am

    “I guess the twentieth century is finally ending.”

    If you look at the history of the past few hundred years, it seems to take about 15-18 years before a new century kicks in: WWI ended the 19th century; Napoleon’s defeat at Waterloo ended the 18th century; the accession of Louis XIV ended the seventeenth century; and on down the line.

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    Stan

    May 4, 2017 at 10:20 am

    @Bitter Scribe:

    I can’t help feeling just a little sorry for Prince Charles.

    I can. He’s a twit, just like all the rest of them.

    I will give them all credit for one thing only: their military service. Even Queen Elizabeth was an Army driver in WW2, and they stayed in London during the german bombing campaign.

    But the idea that royalty exists still….that’s crazy. Charlie should get a f*cking job.

  118. 118.

    JGabriel

    May 4, 2017 at 11:16 am

    Stan:

    Charlie should get a f*cking job.

    The man is 68. Let him retire if he wants.

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    Donalbain

    May 4, 2017 at 11:33 am

    @efgoldman: Charles is next in line. Divorce didn’t change that.

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    Robert Sneddon

    May 4, 2017 at 1:06 pm

    @JGabriel: He has a job, as a Royal carrying out assorted duties including those of representing Her Majesty at various functions. He can’t retire from those duties, he’s too young and still quite fit, fitter than a lot of other folks his age. His real work starts when he takes over from his mom. Myself, I think the Royals have access to secret life-extension technologies as they (the female line at least) do tend to last a long time. Liz is 96 and her mother was over a hundred when she died, so Charlie might have still have some time to wait.

    He has had other jobs in his life including being a Naval officer and becoming Master and Commander of one of his mom’s ships (HMS Bronington) for a couple of years before he left the Armed Forces to take up his job in the family business.

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