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  1. 1.

    chopper

    baud/zuck 2020! the only ticket that sounds like adam west’s batman punching a guy!

  5. 5.

    dm

    Wow. Just think of the conflict of interest represented by the Facebook news feed…..

    Though I guess anti-troll/anti-fake-news technology research will be well funded for the next couple of years.

  7. 7.

    amk

    can’t even string a correct sentence together and fucking fournier was in charge of fucking AP bureau for how long?

  9. 9.

    efgoldman

    @M. Bouffant:

    Shoot me now.

    Much, mich better: Shoot Fournier and all the other assholes who are riding this train.
    Waste of perfectly good bullets, but we gotta’ do something.

  11. 11.

    amk

    speaking of next murkan prez

    A court in Austria has ordered that Facebook must remove postings seen as hate speech, in a ruling that is set to have international implications.

    The case was brought by the country’s Green Party after its leader was targeted by a false account.

    The court said postings not just in Austria but worldwide must be deleted. Facebook has not yet commented.

    The ruling is seen as a victory for campaigners who want to make social media platforms combat online trolling.

    /

    Internet giants including Facebook, Twitter and Google have all come under fire in many countries for failing to remove hate speech from their platforms promptly.

    Last month, German ministers approved plans to fine social media firms up to 50m euros ($53.3m; £42.7m) if they fail to remove hate speech and fake news quickly.

  12. 12.

    Turgidson

    The idea that Fournier actually wants anything to do with a “disruptor” is the funniest fucking thing I’ve read today. That insufferable dipshit was one of the most mindless, oblivious protectors of the status quo in the ACELA corridor, no matter how much he waxed idiotic about the “corrupt duopoly” with his BFF Matt Dowd.

    What a useless piece of shit.

  13. 13.

    piratedan

    so now that Yates and Clapper have testified, how hard will the mainstream media avoid pulling on the threads, if not outright denying the existence of the sweater if not debating whether sheep themselves are nothing more than an urban legend?

  15. 15.

    Mnemosyne

    @devore:

    Anybody but Hillary in 2020

    That’s what you assholes were saying last year, and now we have Trump. Congratulations — you got exactly what you wanted. Anything Trump does is now on you.

  17. 17.

    MomSense

    Nonononono. This sounds even worse than the horrendous no labels nonsense.

    Yesterday Pod Save America interviewed Gov. Inslee in front of a live audience. He would be a far superior candidate to Yuck.

    Today they released a live interview with Kamala Harris who has been on my short list for awhile now.

    I don’t have much appetite for 2020 yet. We have some important special elections to win and a House to flip first.

  19. 19.

    jl

    @chopper:

    ” baud/zuck 2020! the only ticket that sounds like adam west’s batman punching a guy! ”

    Bad news for Baud. We learned in 2016 that slogans and branding are very important. Baud has to settle for veep.

    Zuck! Baud!

    That’ll really play with Baud’s base, too.

  20. 20.

    sigaba

    I remember reading an interview with D.C. Fontana about the whole TNG Remmick/”Conspiracy” storyline with the lizard creatures invading people’s bodies — even today it’s a remarkably graphic and violent scene for syndicated TV.

    Fontana was like, “we all realized this shit is too hardcore,” so they revamped and decided to set up the Borg as the Big Bad instead.

  21. 21.

    laura

    If this nation was a plaything to amuse and excite the indolent wealthy arriviste, then sure, why not a zuckerberg…

    But this nation, and our ongoing experiment with democracy is not a plaything, and it sure as fuck is not a toy,.or a plaything and it’s not Mark Zuckerberg’s or Robert Mercer’s or Jared and Ivanka’s no matter how much Ron Fornier would like it to be.

  23. 23.

    Aleta

    I hate to say I half-believe this but …last summer I was joking that if HRC could pick a mate who people are pre-conditioned to like, like a Clooney…
    Anyway some days I think that in this age, someone who already fascinates the public and hypnotizes the media might be required for half the ticket. Able to share power w/ a decent liberal politician, but get attention visually, all the while raising millions by drinking a star*hucks while talking to reporters on the street in front of an ‘american’ brand car parked next to a big bank ATM.

  24. 24.

    jl

    I assume the post is a joke. In many ways Macron is a center-left type, not a progressive.

    On the other hand, I read he wants to bring some of the Nordic model to France, particularly to labor markets and associated Nordic social support services for workers and unemployed. So soon we can hear horrified Foxbots screaming that Macron wants to turn France into SWEDEN!!!!!. And also bigger push for green economy and renewable energy, wants to phase out nuclear power.

    He says he’ll pressure Germany to reduce export surplus and loosen fiscal constraints for more growth in rest of Eurozone. He’s not happy with TIPP and wants more negotiation to fix it, though I don’t know if he wants to change it in a good or a bad way. But seems to be wary of US agendas. I need to read more about that. If some has a link, let me know.

    Anyway, a lot of Macron’s policies don’t look centrist from a US point of view, or from a conventional Eurozone banker point of view.

    But he’ll be called one of the three or four ideological buzzwords that the US corporate media allows, since that is more profitable and easier than the work of actually reporting his platform.

  28. 28.

    Oatler.

    Even the tart with only “some” rat in it has actually got “quite a bit” of rat.

  29. 29.

    sigaba

    @Mnemosyne:

    That’s what you assholes were saying last year, and now we have Trump.

    We’re all where we are today because Cenk Uygur got ahold of a cursed monkey’s paw and wished for “anyone but Hillary.” He got his wish.

  35. 35.

    Mnemosyne

    @sigaba:

    Whoever did it needs to have their ass kicked.

    And, sadly, there actually is a real-life parallel: “pro-life” voters went for Trump because they want him to end abortion. As they have demonstrated in Texas, they are willing to kill mothers and infants to stop legal abortion. It’s pretty much the definition of “deal with the devil.”

  36. 36.

    Mike J

    I can’t believe that a thread with the title Our Failed Media isn’t about the NYT’s new “Say Something Nice” feature about Trump.

    Really. A feature dedicated to fluffing Trump.

  37. 37.

    Elizabelle

    @Mike J: I think the Fuck the Fucking New York Times is trolling us. It’s like they’re daring their non-Trump curious subscribers to peel off.

  38. 38.

    cckids

    OT, for all who showed interest in my Seattle cat-in-the-tree saga earlier today, we successfully got Panther (turned out to be her -not his- name) down tonight, at 8:00. She was up close to 40 feet by the end, meowing pitifully, since around 6 this morning, so a total of 14 hours. She spent a good 5 hours fending off two very aggressive crows that were easily her size; getting dive-bombed, harassed and pecked.

    Panther, treed & unhappy.

    Thanks to commenter H.E. Wolf, who found Canopy Cat Rescue for me. Shaun arrived, sized up the situation, explained everything he was doing & planning to me and to Panther’s owners, then used climbing ropes to ascend & charm her into his arms. (And then into a carry bag; she was less happy about that!) An extremely kind and capable guy; this was his FOURTH kitty rescue today. He does it all just on a donation basis, too! A very happy ending all around.

    And, for all the snarking about how cats will come down when they’re hungry; apparently not always. Especially when they’ve climbed one of the incredibly straight pines around here; their claws aren’t meant to climb straight down. The rescue guy has saved cats who’ve been treed for 15-16 days!!

    So, I thought I’d throw out a big thank you to him & his agency; it takes a truly big-hearted person to do so much work so carefully & lovingly, possibly for free. If anyone is looking for a super animal-related nonprofit to donate to, this one is great!

  39. 39.

    montanareddog

    @amk: In his defence, he was probably drunk-tweeting after watching his beloved Republican moderate senators getting bitch-slapped by Sally Yates.

  41. 41.

    Sab

    @cckids: Thanks for the update. My chunky ground cat broke his foot one time trying to get out of a tree he had no business climbing. We grounded him for life. That’s why we have windows, so that cats can look out.

  42. 42.

    barb 2

    I love happy endings. Cats and crows — my cat has been harassed by crows. Not anything he did — just because he is a cat.

  44. 44.

    satby

    @cckids: that’s a great rescue group, thanks for letting us know. I kicked in a donation, it doesn’t show but they do take PayPal.

  45. 45.

    Starfish

    @jl: There has been speculation on what Zuckerberg is going to do. He has been eating with normal midwestern families and touring auto plants and saying that now that he has a child he is going back to his Jewish roots when he was a really vocal Athiest before. He also has a clause in his contract where he can take two years off from being head of Facebook to run for office without losing his job.

  46. 46.

    David Fud

    Fine, give us Zuckerberg, but only if Sheryl Sandberg is there to run things. Let him fly around, make videos and outlandish investments, and let her do the work. Sounds about like every other woman in the world, so let’s start there if Zuck is going to be president.

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