Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”

Too often we hand the biggest microphones to the cynics and the critics who delight in declaring failure.

Putting aside our relentless self-interest because the moral imperative is crystal clear.

Let’s delete this post and never speak of this again.

Eh, that’s media spin. biden’s health is fine and he’s doing a good job.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.

Proof that we need a blogger ethics panel.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the GOP

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

Insiders who complain to politico: please report to the white house office of shut the fuck up.

I’d try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires

Come on, man.

You cannot shame the shameless.

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.

“But what about the lurkers?”

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

Second rate reporter says what?

Consistently wrong since 2002

I like you, you’re my kind of trouble.

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  1. 1.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Will Heaven‏Verified account @ WillHeaven 24m24 minutes ago
    Another cab driver: man crashed into people then there was stabbing attack. London Bridge.

    Passerby says 15-20 people have been run over. “Westminster bridge all over again”. Another says 7 or 8.

  6. 6.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    MSNBC live coverage: Lots of sirens and police lights, most people walking very calmly away from the site, a few jogging, one guy drinking out of a can as he walks, another with one hand in his pocket, texting with the other

  7. 7.

    satby

    I hope it just turns out to be a tragic, horrible accident and not some demented terrorist attack. And how fucked up is it to have to hope for that?

  8. 8.

    JPL

    cbsnews.com has good coverage for those who don’t have cable, and want to stream the news.

  9. 9.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Here’s a tweet from the London Metropolitan Police, 15-20 minutes ago.

    We are aware of reports on social media. We will release facts when we can – our info must be accurate #LondonBridge

    “Our info must be accurate.” Can you imagine?

  13. 13.

    trollhattan

    “Lucky” is the wrong word but a BBC reporter happened to witness it.

    BBC reporter Holly Jones, who was on the bridge at the time of the incident, said the van was driven by a man and was “probably travelling at about 50 miles an hour”.

    About five people were being treated for injuries after the vehicle mounted the pavement and hit them, she said. She said the van, which was travelling from the direction of central London, headed towards the south side of the river.

    Ms Jones later reported seeing a man being arrested by police. She said he was handcuffed and had his shirt off.

    Will opine going 50 makes it seem intentional.

  16. 16.

    JMG

    It could well be terrorism. But it was also Saturday night in a city famous for binge drinking, so it could also be DUI.

  17. 17.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @D58826: I had to turn off the TV, but they were starting to report the knife attacks were at a separate but nearby location. If that’s true, sounds like a two-person (at least) coordinated attack.

  21. 21.

    Gravenstone

    @efgoldman: Welcome to the new “normal”. Much easier to weaponize a vehicle. And bridges afford a very constrained target environment – very little opportunity to evade someone intent on mayhem.

  24. 24.

    efgoldman

    @goblue72:

    Back when the Libyans & Palestinians were the terrorists du jour, it was all about hijacking

    Oh, hell. Before that.
    “Take this plane to Cuba” got to be a meme.

  26. 26.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @efgoldman:

    Oh, hell. Before that.
    “Take this plane to Cuba” got to be a meme.

    I’m so old, I remember when the term “skyjacking” was coined (1961 AFAICT).

  28. 28.

    randy khan

    It’s terrible regardless of whether it was a drunk binge driver or someone intentionally trying to hurt people. It’s strange to be hoping for the former.

  30. 30.

    Aleta

    David Beard @dabeard
    Challenger to immigrant-baiting Iowa Republican Steve King drops out, citing death threats. Kim Weaver’s statement: (link: https://www.facebook.com/KimWeaverIA/)

    . “Over the last several weeks, I have been evaluating personal circumstances along with the political climate regarding this campaign. After much deliberation, I have determined that the best decision for me is to withdraw my candidacy for the US House race in Iowa’s 4th Congressional District.
    One consideration has been raised again by recent events at my home. Beginning during my 2016 campaign, I have received very alarming acts of intimidation, including death threats. While some may say enduring threats are just a part of running for office, my personal safety has increasingly become a concern.
    …
    Although I’m stepping down as a candidate, I still passionately support the defeat of Steve King. I will remain a part of the effort for a future candidate in this district, as well as help to elect a Democratic Governor and other Democrats across Iowa.
    In this effort, the funds we raised will be distributed within the district to continue to oppose Steve King.
    We’ve started a significant movement in this district, and it’s important to see that progress continue. I’ve said from the beginning that this isn’t about me–it’s about unseating Steve King and gaining real representation for the 4th District of Iowa.

    I humbly ask for your support and understanding during this difficult time, as well as your continued support with the effort to unseat Steve King.”

  31. 31.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @randy khan: The news media, in its endless efforts to do its real job, attract eyeballs that can be monetized, will hype this shit as much as possible.

  32. 32.

    Brachiator

    @goblue72:

    . This stuff seems to go in copycat waves. Back when the Libyans & Palestinians were the terrorists du jour, it was all about hijacking – airplanes and the occasional cruise ship.

    Apparently, ISIS and Al Quada are encouraging opportunistic improvised attacks using whatever is on hand. Intelligence and police work make it tougher for groups to get together and plan an attack. A so-called lone wolf attack is one of the remaining options available.

  34. 34.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Apparently the Trumpet is tweeting about the wonderfulness of his travel ban, in light of the London Bridge incidents. Have not seen them myself, just a glimpse of a CNN headline.

  35. 35.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @SiubhanDuinne: Hair Furor is confused about where London is, thinks he knows what happens and who did it

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @ realDonaldTrump
    We need to be smart, vigilant and tough. We need the courts to give us back our rights. We need the Travel Ban as an extra level of safety!

  37. 37.

    Another Scott

    @SiubhanDuinne: “We need the courts to give us back our rights. We need the Travel Ban as an extra level of safety!”

    By “give us back our rights” he means “let me – The Great Donald – do whatever I want”, of course.

    Funny how the “temporary” 90 – 120 day ban was need until “we know what the hell is going on”, but he’s still fighting/arguing/whining about it months later.

    Have you figured out “what the hell is going on” yet, Donnie? No? Why not? It’s been 133 days, Donnie…

    Clowns. Dangerous, incompetent clowns…

    Grrr…

    Of course he’s twittering about the tragedy in London, turning it into more butthurt that he’s suffered. It’s what he does.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  38. 38.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    This wouldn’t be happening if the US president used the words “radical islamic terrorism”.

    oh wait….

  39. 39.

    Pat

    Bollards could be used in every city street to prevent cars from running onto sidewalks to target pedestrians. U turns on bridges can also be prevented with better use of traffick controls. Why allow terrorists the opportunity to do the greatest harms in the first place. Second to defensive driving is defensive pedestrian-ing. None of our cities are organized to prevent hazards, by terrorists, or wayward drivers.

  40. 40.

    Another Scott

    @Pat: And if you put them on all the bridges, then you need to put them on the sidewalks leading up to the bridges. And pretty soon you have them on every important sidewalk in the country…

    And the money spent on bollards is money that isn’t spent on things that would make a bigger difference in the quality of life for more people.

    We shouldn’t forget that this was carried out by 3 people (though apparently 12 others were arrested).

    There’s only so much that can be done to protect crowds of people. Even something like turning every bridge into pedestrian-only traffic would just shift the target elsewhere while introducing other costs and issues. There will always be “soft targets”. If a country over-reacts in hardening the “last target” it just means that less thought is given to others which might be more disruptive.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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