Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The rest of the comments were smacking Boebert like she was a piñata.

America is going up in flames. The NYTimes fawns over MAGA celebrities. No longer a real newspaper.

There are no moderate republicans – only extremists and cowards.

Someone should tell Republicans that violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, or possibly the first.

Republicans do not pay their debts.

“I was told there would be no fact checking.”

“But what about the lurkers?”

Today’s gop: why go just far enough when too far is right there?

“Just close your eyes and kiss the girl and go where the tilt-a-whirl takes you.” ~OzarkHillbilly

Republicans in disarray!

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

T R E 4 5 O N

Shut up, hissy kitty!

The words do not have to be perfect.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty. ~Thomas Jefferson

When I was faster i was always behind.

I would try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

Following reporting rules is only for the little people, apparently.

If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!

Hot air and ill-informed banter

DeSantis transforming Florida into 1930s Germany with gators and theme parks.

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

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dumb·show
ˈdəmˌSHō/ noun: dumbshow; noun: dumb-show; noun: dumb show; plural noun: dumb shows
gestures used to convey a meaning or message without speech; mime.
“they demonstrated in dumbshow how the tea should be made”
a piece of dramatic mime.
plural noun: dumbshows; plural noun: dumb-shows
“there were gags, spoofs, and dumbshows”

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  1. 1.

    bago

    What part of the title “President of the United States” is not to be taken seriously?

  2. 2.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I think this dumb show is as much for trump as for his marks. It’s all like sitting in the driver’s seat of the truck making vroom-vroom noises
    I had MNSBC on this morning in the run up to this pantomime, and the ‘bots mentioned that there was a piano playing. Last week before he announced he was pulling out of the Paris accords, I think it was reported that they had a jazz combo playing. I don’t know if it’s actually unprecedented, maybe Obama did it, maybe Truman did it, but it don’t seem right.

  5. 5.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    also, when I saw this today in Cole twitter feed, I laughed, because they’re down-scaling The Brand. Then I was mad, because they’re profiteering

    Trump Organization to Go Budget Friendly With ‘American Idea’ Hotel Chain
    The new hotels will have no overt connection to Mr. Trump — his name will not appear anywhere, Mr. Danziger said.

    It’s a licensing scam, partnerships with already existing hotels and small regional chains, so only the people doing business with them will know they’re giving business to the president’s family.
    also, the NYT article (hold on to your wigs and keys) reads like a PR firm’s press release.

    Mr. Burchfield has granted approval for the Trumps to proceed with Chawla Hotels as a partner, Mr. Danziger said.
    …
    Eventually, Mr. Trump met Suresh Chawla during a campaign visit last summer in Jackson, Miss. Mr. Chawla told The Mississippi Business Journal that Mr. Trump had encouraged him to “think grand” with one of his projects.
    In his letter to the editor, Mr. Chawla wrote that he did not support Mr. Trump’s campaign, and he later revealed that early on he preferred Mrs. Clinton or Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida. But he eventually donated a total of $50,000 to Mr. Trump’s campaign and party.
    …
    Months later, the Trumps contacted Mr. Chawla about possibly becoming partners with him and his brother, Dinesh Chawla. When Mr. Danziger heard the family’s story, he called Mr. Chawla and briefed him on the new brand, he said.

  6. 6.

    Major Major Major Major

    “The media obsesses over every period, dot.” — Sarah Huckabee Sanders

    Trump admin: “See this hand? This is the hand that’s going to try and distract you. Over here, where I’m gesturing at the beautiful assistant strapped to the mechanism of death? That’s so that you don’t watch my other hand, right over there, which I’m using to loosen the ropes. See, it’s like you don’t even notice me loosening the ropes. And voila! The damsel survives!”
    MEDIA: Trump Admin Miraculously Saves Damsel; Rabid Dems in Disarray Blast Media for ‘Handgate’; Next on MSNBC, Bernie Sanders Discusses How Democrats Shouldn’t Wear Clean Pants to the Magic Show

  7. 7.

    Mike in NC

    He likes to scribble his name on fake EOs just like kindergarteners like to finger paint.

  8. 8.

    Mnemosyne

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    But he eventually donated a total of $50,000 to Mr. Trump’s campaign and party.
    …
    Months later, the Trumps contacted Mr. Chawla about possibly becoming partners with him and his brother, Dinesh Chawla. When Mr. Danziger heard the family’s story, he called Mr. Chawla and briefed him on the new brand, he said.

    I’m kind of glad Kay isn’t around tonight to see this, because I think she’d burst a blood vessel. This is pretty much the definition of political corruption and “pay for play” right here, and no one seems to give a shit.

  10. 10.

    Peej

    Holy Cwap! I just looked at the offshore wagering odds for the Ossoff/Handel contest and Ossoff is currently the favorite at -170 to Handel +130 (This means to win $100, you have to risk $170 on Ossoff — for Handel, you win $130 by risking $100). I would’ve thought Handel would be a slight favorite, just based on demographics alone. I live in Los Angeles, but grew up near the 6th district and have family there, and I just can’t believe the likely D votes from around the perimeter of I-285 would be enough to overcome the pseudoevangelicals in Roswell, Alpharetta and Johns Creek.

  11. 11.

    NotMax

    Paragraph which caught the eye re: proposed FAA privatization (emphasis added):

    Along with privatizing air traffic control, the president’s proposal would give this new non-profit entity control of a $36 billion modernization program for airports. The governing board would assume all of the FAA’s assets pertaining to air traffic control, a transfer of tens of billions of dollars. It also would be authorized to establish fees on passengers to pay for airport and system upgrades. Source

    Another, different eye catcher.

    Montenegro became the 29th member of NATO on Monday and was praised by the United States for sticking to its path of joining the Western military alliance in spite of Russian pressure.

    Even as Montenegrin Prime Minister Dusko Markovic was in Washington for a State Department ceremony to mark the accession, Russia warned of retaliation against Montenegro’s “hostile course” and condemned the country’s “anti-Russian hysteria.”
    [snip]
    “In the light of the hostile course chosen by the Montenegrin authorities, the Russian side reserves the right to take retaliatory measures on a reciprocal basis. In politics, just as in physics, for every action there is an opposite reaction,” the [Russian Foreign] ministry said in a statement. Source

  12. 12.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    I really don’t know how much longer they can keep this show going. And it is a show. The whole fucking party is committed to this dumbass show called, I guess, “How Fucking Much Longer Can We All Get Away With This Game of Make Believe That This Pitiful Fucking Loser Knows What the Fuck He’s Doing?” It’s a long title, it’s a mouthful, but this is their show, God damn it, and they waited eight long-ass years to put it on, so none of them are going to walk out on their roles until the theater burns down or something.

    I just can’t see this ending well for anybody in this excuse for a political party. I can’t understand why they aren’t running for the doors yet. I really can’t. I mean, yeah, Steve King and Looey Göehmert are too fucking dumb to know that this show is not only not making it to Broadway, it’s failing in places like Surprise, Nebraska and Pinhook, Missouri and Upper Peanut, Pennsylvania. But I’d have thought that people like, I don’t know, the speaker of the House of Representatives would have enough understanding of what his own interests are to try to untether himself from this clot of clowns. I guess not.

  14. 14.

    Adam L Silverman

    @NotMax: Apparently the association for private pilots is not amused with the idea as they are expecting to get chewed up by fees and upgrades to their planes to be able to navigate the new systems.

  15. 15.

    Mnemosyne

    @Peej:

    I would not discount the probable effects of voter tampering and voter suppression. The offshore gaming guys are assuming a fair fight, not a fixed one.

  16. 16.

    efgoldman

    @NotMax:

    Along with privatizing air traffic control, the president’s proposal would give this new non-profit entity control of a $36 billion modernization program for airports

    Tester, senior Democrat on the appropriate committee, already said it’s dead. dead. dead.

  25. 25.

    NotMax

    Unexpected statistic hidden within an otherwise humdrum piece.

    …The Department of Transportation notes that just 28% of 16-year-olds had driver’s licenses in 2010, with just 45% of 17-year-olds claiming the same. That’s plummeted from 50% and 66% respectively in 1978. While the number of 16-year-olds with driver’s licenses peaked at 1.72 million in 2009, it dropped to 1.08 million by 2014. Source

  28. 28.

    efgoldman

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Fucking Millennials are killing the driver’s license now.

    I don’t keep up with census trends. Is it possible there are just fewer kids? Or more of them live in Metro areas with transportation options?

  29. 29.

    Mnemosyne

    @efgoldman:

    IIRC, it’s because most states have “graduated” driver’s licenses where you have a ton of restrictions on drivers under 18, so a lot of kids just wait until after they turn 18 to get their license.

    Most high schools don’t offer drivers’ ed classes anymore, so they’re going to have to pay for private classes anyway.

  31. 31.

    Major Major Major Major

    @efgoldman:

    28% of 16-year-olds had driver’s licenses in 2010, with just 45% of 17-year-olds claiming the same. That’s plummeted from 50% and 66% respectively in 1978

    Would not have much to do with whether or not (I don’t know) there’s fewer kids. I’m sure more live in urban areas but not that much more. Maybe they don’t have money, also Uber can be cheaper than a car, especially once you factor in teenage insurance premiums, for certain use levels.

  32. 32.

    Adam L Silverman

    @efgoldman: And given the way things work around here I’ll have it again and again and again as needed.

    Also, since I’ve been not feeling 100% I’ve forgotten to explain that the Saudi arms deal isn’t actually a Saudi arms deal. It’s more like a Saudi arms aspirational discussion. Just like everything else, there’s no there there.

  33. 33.

    NotMax

    @Adam L. Silverman

    First increment approved today. What does it include? Anti-missile radar.

    The Pentagon said Saudi Arabia intended to use the radars to support its border security by locating the source of incoming artillery, rockets and mortars and defending against them.

    The radars were a part of a $662 million State Department approval which included ammunition, trucks and technical support.

    A separate $750 million “blanket order training program” contract, included flight training, professional military education, and English language training, the agency said. The contractor was not disclosed by the Pentagon in the notice. Source

    Is keeping the contractor anonymous anywhere near the usual?

  35. 35.

    efgoldman

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Uber can be cheaper than a car, especially once you factor in teenage insurance premiums

    My daughter got a speeding ticket, coming home late at night from a babysitting job, local four lane road, no traffic.
    I didn’t find out until I got the $200 surcharge on my next insurance bill.
    20-ish years ago. No Uber. Local cab at that hour was likely to take an hour or more – there was just one, late at night, if the driver was awake and near the phone.

  36. 36.

    Mary G

    @Adam L Silverman: I loved this Brookings column about the $110 billion Saudi arms deal being fake news:

    I’ve spoken to contacts in the defense business and on the Hill, and all of them say the same thing: There is no $110 billion deal. Instead, there are a bunch of letters of interest or intent, but not contracts. Many are offers that the defense industry thinks the Saudis will be interested in someday. So far nothing has been notified to the Senate for review. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency, the arms sales wing of the Pentagon, calls them “intended sales.” None of the deals identified so far are new, all began in the Obama administration.

    So Jared Kushner is as big a fraud as his FIL. Sad!

    Do they really think that the American people are that dumb?

  37. 37.

    Bobby Thomson

    @Mnemosyne: there’s also the matter of cars not being cheap and employment for teens being not as abundant and parents being not as able to spoil their kids by paying for the car.

  39. 39.

    efgoldman

    @Gian:

    they can’t pay car insurance, car loan, and student loans

    High school kids don’t have student loans; and they don’t have to own a car. I’d think they’d want a license just for ID purposes.

  40. 40.

    Adam L Silverman

    @NotMax: So this is a small slice and it still has to clear Congress, though that is usually pro forma provided the Leahy Amendment and other reviews were done correctly at DSCA. That said almost everything approved today was initially proposed for sale sometime between 2015 and 2016. In fact almost everything in the announced package was proposed and/or negotiated for between 2015 and 2016. It takes that long for these types of things to happen.

    As for keeping the contractor anonymous – I don’t know. It may simply be that they haven’t put out a bid for a contractor at this point. Or there is already a set of contractors on omnibus contracts as primes to do this already. My understanding is that Booz had the PME contract. Or they did through 2015-2016.

  41. 41.

    trollhattan

    @efgoldman:
    Our city just approved a downtown apartment building with far fewer parking spots than zoning previously required. Being carless, doing Zipcar, Uber, cyclig instead is an Official Thing. The upside is higher density than normal, a good thing with the 2% vacancy rate.

  42. 42.

    Montanareddog

    Trump isn’t signing a bill. He’s signing a list of “principles” on air traffic control. It’s a faux bill signing ceremony

    And the reality (shit) show tropes just keep on coming.

  43. 43.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Mary G: That is an excellent column and Reidel is spot on.

    As for the American public not knowing the difference? If you hadn’t read that column or I hadn’t mentioned something in a comment would you have known? The vast majority of Americans don’t know or understand, let alone want to know or understand how the local school board works. This might as well be stuff written in Ugaritic or Martian.

  44. 44.

    cthulhu

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Fucking Millennials are killing the driver’s license now.

    They also aren’t buying cars as much either.

    As for the driving thing, it is probably also the cost of insurance in some cases. Just got a quote for adding my 16-year-old son to our policy and it would effectively double our high LA premiums – and that’s a pretty good quote from doing some comparison shopping. The rate drops nearly 30% if he waits until 17 and even more at 18 and/or if he is in college.

    Regardless, certainly among his peers, it just isn’t seen as being as important as it once was to get a license and car as soon as possible.

  45. 45.

    efgoldman

    @Mary G:

    So Jared Kushner is as big a fraud as his FIL. Sad!

    Is this a surprise?
    We are now at the point where, if someone comes out of the WH, stands in front of the microphones, and says the sun is shining, you should look for total darkness any second.
    They need to study the pros, especially the late Ron Ziegler:

    “This is the operative statement. The others are inoperative.”

    ”I would feel that most of the conversations that took place in those areas of the White House that did have the recording system would, in almost their entirety, be in existence, but the special prosecutor, the court, and, I think, the American people are sufficiently familiar with the recording system to know where the recording devices existed, and to know the situation in terms of the recording process, but I feel, although the process has not been undertaken yet in preparation of the material to abide by the court decision, really, what the answer to that question is.”

  47. 47.

    efgoldman

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I don’t know. It may simply be that they haven’t put out a bid for a contractor at this point.

    I wonder if the acquisition/procurement/contract folks in the Pentagon are among the desks that are still empty.

  48. 48.

    Adam L Silverman

    @efgoldman: The political appointment ones are. While there are some beachhead team folks, my guess is that those folks don’t have acquisitions and procurement backgrounds. So you’ve got some SESes and some civil servants and some uniformed personnel keeping the lights on. This is going to bite someone in the tuchas big time in regards to the next defense authorization bill.

  49. 49.

    cthulhu

    @NotMax:

    Cue Paul Lynde.

    Always entertaining. And according to wikipedia relating to that particular gig:

    In a 2013 radio interview, Dick Van Dyke recalled the wrap party for Bye Bye Birdie in 1962. A series of men gave short speeches, each one praising Ann-Margret and predicting success and stardom for the young actress. When it was Lynde’s turn to speak, he began, “Well, I guess I’m the only one here who doesn’t want to f— Ann-Margret.”

  50. 50.

    Mel

    @efgoldman: I wonder if it’s because so many families have had to cut down to one car or no car b/c of financial constraints, and / or can’t afford to buy a secind car or afford to add a teen to their insurance policies. That’s been the case for several friends and neighbors whose kiddos have recently turned 16. Since there’s no vehicle for the kiddos to drive, the parents are holding off on the expense of the driver’s ed classes and the driver’s license and the (sometimes shockingly pricey!) addition of a teenaged driver to the adult’s insurance policy.

    One set of parents is going to pay for the driver’s ed, etc. as part of their teen’s graduation gift in a couple of years. Another Dad is using the money that would have been been required for driving school/ license/ testing fees to pay for an SAT prep course for his son this fall.

  51. 51.

    mouse tolliver

    @efgoldman:

    We are now at the point where, if someone comes out of the WH, stands in front of the microphones, and says the sun is shining, you should look for total darkness any second.

    On day one, Trump literally did this. He said the rain stopped and the sun came out while he was being sworn in. Even though the entire world could see that this was a lie.

  52. 52.

    Ruckus

    @bago:

    What part of the title “President of the United States” is not to be taken seriously?

    The part where the orange dumbass’s name appears. It should be taken seriously, but humans are not capable of stretching the laws of reality that far. We are capable of becoming angry, saddened and alarmed, massively concerned for our health and country that the combination of the shit weasel’s name and that phrase can be uttered by anyone though.

  54. 54.

    Ruckus

    @cthulhu:
    Kids have a way to talk to friends without a mode of transportation, that not all that long ago didn’t exist. And they don’t have to hang out at specific locations away from adults to do so either. And that’s on top of all the other reasons people have mentioned.

  56. 56.

    Anne Laurie

    @Mel:

    I wonder if it’s because so many families have had to cut down to one car or no car b/c of financial constraints, and / or can’t afford to buy a secind car or afford to add a teen to their insurance policies.

    Follow the money, as always.

    One further tile in the mosaic: Smartphones. In our day, kids had to be in the same room to interact in groups. Now, “everybody” jokes/complains that kids prefer to text or snapchat even when they’re within arms’ reach — cue the pic of kids lined up on a sofa, each engrossed in their separate phone. Presumably some teenagers with part-time-job money weigh the cost of getting & insuring a car versus a better data plan on a newer phone. Advantage: phone.

    I also remember, back in college, fellow nerds who said their parents “made” them take drivers ed classes & get their licenses, mostly so the parents could stop being chauffeurs, but also because they were convinced that their kid would end up stranded somewhere & not be able to reach them. Today’s parents have their cell phones at hand 24/7, too… kid misses the last bus, or the party gets out of hand, and Mom can summoned. (And that’s assuming her safety instructions weren’t “here’s the number for my Uber account, don’t be afraid to use it if you need a ride home.”)

    ETA: Aaand I see Ruckus/BillinGlendale beat me to it!

  58. 58.

    sukabi

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.): think Ryan is in it up to his eyeballs…at first by keeping quiet and then by???has anyone checked his campaign funds or super Pacs for large donations from some obscure off shore accts…if not $$$ then some pervy habits someone has documented. With the gop it’s either $ or s€x…and now they’ve added treason to their bag of tricks.

  60. 60.

    Mary G

    @sukabi: Ryan’s not nearly as pretty these days. He looks haggard, with bags under the blue eyes and puffier in general. Something is gnawing at him and it’s a joy to see.

  61. 61.

    Amir Khalid

    @Mary G:
    A few days ago, I was speculating that the deals had been cut before Trump even left DC. Now I’ve just learned there were in fact no deals, just a wish list from the Saudis. I guess I should have remembered the Trump admin peeps — especially the President himself and his relatives — are full of bluster and bullshit.

  63. 63.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    CHRIS HAYES: I think it was Art of the Deal, one of his memoirs where it was just like look busy. He tells the story about how he brings in a bunch of dump trucks when he`s got someone visiting a building site to literally just move dirt around to look busy, like that is his approach.

  65. 65.

    opiejeanne

    @sukabi: I saw a side-by-side comparison of Kellyanne Polls before and after Trump, and it was like those before and after pictures of meth users, and just about as bad.

  66. 66.

    Marcopolo

    @Ruckus: My anecdata backs this up. I am friends w/ three couples who have kids between the ages of 15-19. None, I repeat, none of the kids (5 in toto) have drivers licenses because 1) they can stay in touch via their phones; and 2) the intertoobz provide them with all kinds of distractions that folks my age typically had to leave the house to access. It is kind do amazing when one of them says the need to leave a get together early to take their 17 or 18 year old kid some where. My generation would have died from embarrassment to be so dependent on the ‘rents. Also too, I also suspect this behavior trend is showing up in the statistics showing kids today ain’t sexing it up like their parents did.

  67. 67.

    akryan

    The actual president of the United States is pretending to be the actual president of the United States and there are a bunch of smiling sychophants standing by and congratulating him for it. That is just about the saddest thing I’ve ever seen.

  68. 68.

    akryan

    OT, but something that has always bothered me here is that the comments are listed first to last instead of the other way around. sometimes there are hundreds of comments to get through until I get to the most recent one. It’d be better to have the latest comment listed first so you can jump right in to the latest part of the conversation. It’s your site so you can run it however you want but that’s my two cents.

  69. 69.

    Bess

    @Mike J:

    These days one can do in their own bedroom what we used to need a car to do.

    And there are a lot fewer safe, private places to park one’s car if they’re in the mood to do some of that stuff.

  71. 71.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @akryan: Most blog comment sections I’ve run across do it the same way as is done here, earliest first.

    ETA: Also since we don’t have threaded comments, having them in this order makes sense since sometimes folk are replying to an earlier comment.

  72. 72.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    @opiejeanne:

    “I spoke for thirty-five minutes on three network Sunday shows … you know what got picked? The fact that I said ‘alternative facts.’ Not the fact that I ripped a new one to some of those hosts…

    Every single day, we turn the other cheek. If you’re part of Team Trump, you walk around with these gaping, seeping wounds every single day, and… and that’s fine. I believe in a full and fair press, I’m here every Sunday morning, I haven’t slept in months.”

    gaping, seeping wounds? What a snowflake.

    She said that on February 2nd.

  74. 74.

    Mary G

    British GQ has their own version of Charlie Pierce, who is not keen on Twitler’s attacks on London’s mayor:

    Where you and your ilk seek to divide and ban – the very thing, you monstrous pea-brain, that causes terrorism in the first place, that sees young boys growing up angry, that sees young men on the internet taught to hate – Sadiq rising to be London’s mayor sends a message, not just to London, but to the world.

    Sadiq speaks to London’s inclusiveness. We’re not perfect, no city is. But we try. He speaks to our resolve. And though he’s mentioned it so much at this stage to be something of a running joke, he reflects the idea in London that anyone can be anything, no matter your background, or connections. That, yes kids, it really is true: a bus-driver’s son can become the mayor.

    You, I guess, having been born with a silver pitchfork in your mouth, wouldn’t know anything about that either.

  76. 76.

    Applejinx

    @Mary G: Ha! Good. I hated how happy he looked. That guy is embedded deep in the scandals and I’m convinced he’s been completely privy to all the Russia crap, and assumed he was going to be President somehow. Don’t quite know how that was supposed to work, but every day was Christmas Morning for Paul Ryan… for a while.

  77. 77.

    Applejinx

    Oh, and since my first reaction was covered by basically everybody downthread of where I caught it:

    Not being able to do major culturally expected things because you don’t have the money for it, nobody in your family is liquid enough to help you do it, and even if they did nobody expects you’re going to be able to pay them back for it—thus causing a death spiral where these culturally expected things have to jack up their prices because they’re no longer doing the volume they used to be able to count on, worsening the problem—is called economic insecurity.

    I guess it has to be expressed in 50s terms, of kids not getting their first cars and drivers licenses, to be understood here.

  79. 79.

    sukabi

    @opiejeanne: she’s another one…the pre Drumpf and post Drumpf “looks” aren’t doing her any favors… She’s aged an easy 20 years in the last year and looks like she’s an old used up junkie.

    She’s a cautionary tale…mainlining hate, not good for the soul.

  80. 80.

    Kay

    Last month, President Trump visited Saudi Arabia and his administration announced that he had concluded a $110 billion arms deal with the kingdom. Only problem is that there is no deal. It’s fake news.
    I’ve spoken to contacts in the defense business and on the Hill, and all of them say the same thing: There is no $110 billion deal. Instead, there are a bunch of letters of interest or intent, but not contracts. Many are offers that the defense industry thinks the Saudis will be interested in someday. So far nothing has been notified to the Senate for review. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency, the arms sales wing of the Pentagon, calls them “intended sales.” None of the deals identified so far are new, all began in the Obama administration.

    Just assume everything that comes out of Trump or that White House is a lie. I think Sessions is leaking that Trump is mad at Sessions because Sessions wants to appear independent as attorney general. More bullshit.

    This is what they do all day- concoct elaborate lies. They spent all day yesterday (and probably most of the weekend) setting up a fake bill signing. If you were wondering what it is they do at work since they have no actual achievements (and I was) this is what they work on.

    Trump voters get a lot of attention as the cause of this but this is a much bigger problem than uninformed voters. Jeff Sessions is a career politician and he’s educated- all of these Trump hires are educated. The things they lack they wouldn’t get in college. The lying and cheating wouldn’t be fixed with a graduate degree.

  83. 83.

    different-church-lady

    Yeah, well this is real funny for us until they manage to leverage white fear and hatred to electoral victory again.

    We know what’s going to happen to Trump. We still have figured out what to do about the voters.

  86. 86.

    different-church-lady

    @akryan: That’s what the “to the bottom” button in the lower right part of the window is for.

  87. 87.

    different-church-lady

    Can you still buy a drivable car for $500 anymore? Is the cost of entry just too much for kids out of school?

  88. 88.

    different-church-lady

    @NotMax:

    The idea, imperfect though it may be, is to read the comments.

    In that case he really should be asking for an escape button.

  91. 91.

    satby

    @Applejinx: not being able to do “culturally expected things”?

    Driving cars at 16 is a fifties thing?

    Jeeesus, you’re such a grievance collector. For the record, my millennial son got his license after he was 18 because he just didn’t feel the need for it earlier, and I made him get it because my job required me to become a road warrior and I wanted him to be able to get somewhere (and drive his younger brother if needed). Chicago has excellent and convienient public transportation. AND because part of the whole coming of age thing in the 50s and 60s included paying for gas and insurance as part of your driving privileges, so of course I expected that my kids would also know they had the same obligation. It wasn’t just handed to kids as a freebie in an era when most families only had 1 car.

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    satby

    @different-church-lady: I sold my last car to a college kid for $650 just about a year ago. Insurance is high for younger drivers, but there’s discounts for safe driving and driver’s ed that brings it down. And in this area, jobs are available, so a kid with a job could pay insurance and gas. During downturns it probably is harder, but then during recessions it’s harder for a lot of adults too.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    GOP strategists say Republicans plan to make 2018 a referendum on the media.

    What office is the media running for?

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    @Kay:

    There is no $110 billion deal. Instead, there are a bunch of letters of interest or intent, but not contracts.

    ROFL no wonder Trump went bankrupt so many times.

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