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Primary Rancor-Free Open Thread

by Betty Cracker|  June 9, 20171:29 pm| 186 Comments

This post is in: Domestic Politics, Nature, Open Threads

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Instead of rehashing the 2016 Democratic Party primary for the millionth goddamned time or arguing counterfactuals based on an election outcome in another country, how about looking at this lovely giant swallowtail butterfly that briefly graced a bamboo tree in my yard?

Open thread, except for the aforementioned topics, which can be engaged downstairs. C’mon, man. There’s plenty of other stuff to talk about. Weekend plans? Cooking? Pets? Irritating bosses? Read any good books lately? Anything except you-know-what. Don’t make me come down there!

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  1. 1.

    clay

    June 9, 2017 at 1:35 pm

    How about this: Who would win in a drinking contest, Hillary or Bernie?

  2. 2.

    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    June 9, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    I’m making a chicken pot pie to go with the Warriors game tonight.

    Actually, because I have a horrible case of the don’ wannas, I’m sitting in front of a tennis match thinking about chicken pot pie.

  3. 3.

    zhena gogolia

    June 9, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    @clay:

    HRC hands down!

  4. 4.

    O. Felix Culpa

    June 9, 2017 at 1:37 pm

    Um, I just watered my plants and my pollinator garden is coming along nicely. Some tomato plants are thriving and others are failing for reasons unknown. I’m avoiding unpacking and putting my shit away.

    I’m also avoiding the Forbidden Topics.

    That wasn’t so hard. :)

  5. 5.

    JCJ

    June 9, 2017 at 1:37 pm

    Just checking b-j to see what is going on. Is there a shit-show in a thread I should avoid?

  6. 6.

    Camembert

    June 9, 2017 at 1:38 pm

    John Hodgman nails it:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/hodgman/status/872837698029047808

  7. 7.

    Jeffro

    June 9, 2017 at 1:38 pm

    Am I allowed to note that the “have-it-both-ways” race has begun, with Lil’ Marco leading the pack?

    (If not, that’s fine…it’s a beautiful night for a Nats game. We could talk about that =)

  8. 8.

    Mike in DC

    June 9, 2017 at 1:39 pm

    Jordan Peele is producing a tv series set in the 1930s, with people of color as protagonists. “Lovecraft Country” is just that, set in the world of Boston brahmins and unspeakable (and unpronounceable) horrors…plus the standard horrors of the time for brown folks. Sounds like an awesome show idea.

  9. 9.

    donnah

    June 9, 2017 at 1:39 pm

    Lovely butterfly! We seldom see the large butterflies now that I remember from my childhood. We used to see many more of them; luna moths, monarchs, tiger swallowtails…but not so much anymore. I can also remember big army-green grasshoppers that were as big as an adult’s thumb, and I never see those anymore.

    Anyhoo, thanks for a bright spot in the day! I will be sweltering in my kitchen this weekend, dyeing wool for rug hooking. It’s a back-breaking, sweaty job, but it has to be done!

    I hope everyone has a good weekend!

  10. 10.

    rikyrah

    June 9, 2017 at 1:40 pm

    Did Rubio trade the integrity of U.S. for a Cuba-policy shift from Trump?
    BY FABIOLA SANTIAGO

    It may be hard to fathom outside of Miami, but the faraway island of Cuba and Cuban-American politics could have played a role in Thursday’s historic hearing of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election.

    Did the influential Republican senator from Miami on the committee, Marco Rubio, trade the integrity of this country for the pledge of a U.S. policy shift on Cuba from President Donald Trump? The optics — and the timing of a yet unscheduled visit by Trump to Miami to announce a rollback advocated by Rubio of President Barack Obama’s engagement policy — certainly make it seem that way.

    Before Rubio’s intervention, the testimony by former FBI director James Comey had grown impressively damning to President Trump in the same manner a steady, thoughtful, and detail-oriented prosecutor builds a case.

    Comey testified that, in a series of uncomfortable conversations before Trump fired him, the president had given him high praise and demanded loyalty. Trump made it known to him that he wanted the criminal investigation into National Security Adviser Michael Flynn dropped and the “cloud” of the investigation into Trump’s campaign ties to Russian interference “lifted,” Comey said.

    There’s no understating the moment — it was grave.

    Obstruction of justice easily came to mind — but then, it was Rubio’s turn to ask Comey questions.

    Or, more like it, to turn Comey’s testimony around and ask rhetorical questions that inserted doubt into Comey’s candid revelations. Rubio shifted the attention from Trump to leaks to the media. As for information, Rubio seemed most interested in getting Comey to publicly admit that President Trump “was not personally under investigation” than in obtaining any new evidence for the Senate investigation.

    It was as if Rubio — who has become a fixture at the White House and has voted to confirm all of Trump’s controversial appointments — was acting as Trump’s defense attorney instead of as member of a bipartisan committee investigating crucial national security issues.

  11. 11.

    grillo

    June 9, 2017 at 1:40 pm

    Is that all rancors or just the one that Jabba kept in the pit?

  12. 12.

    currants

    June 9, 2017 at 1:40 pm

    Here’s a travel question: I just got a phone that’s calls and texts only (no data nowhere nohow) for travel. It’s an unlocked GSM Dual SIM Blu Tank II. Here’s my dumb question: I can’t figure out how to get it open to put the battery in (much less the SIM card). Any tips–is there a particular (VERY THIN) tool I need?

  13. 13.

    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    June 9, 2017 at 1:42 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa: All of my tomato plants are going crazy, and some have set fruit. I’ve never seen such lush tomato growth here in San Francisco. On the other hand, my hops, cornflowers, ranunculus, and sweet peas all came up, started to grow nicely, and then withered and shriveled away – without any blooms for the latter two. They’re all in different containers/beds. I’m flummoxed (and disappointed). What could be wrong? I’ve grown all successfully for years.

  14. 14.

    cope

    June 9, 2017 at 1:43 pm

    Plans for the weekend? Play with my new camera targeting tonight’s Strawberry Moon, bake a strawberry/rhubarb pie for my niece, make smashburgers for dinner, run a carload of trash to the county transfer station, try out my new Bevfridge beer bottle cooler in the pool, watch some more of “Long Strange Trip” on Amazon Prime, clean the side of our house visible from the street (nasty letter from the HOA), try to stay away from any sources of “news” likely to raise my BP and just in general slide into my new-found vocation of being retired. Oh yeah, still reading Sean Carroll’s new book “The Big Picture” and a book called “How the Irish Saved CIvilization” not to mention the men’s national world cup qualifier against El Tri on Sunday.

    I’m sure I’m missing some stuff but that’s a pretty full plate as it is.

  15. 15.

    rikyrah

    June 9, 2017 at 1:44 pm

    Uh huh
    Uh huh

    but but but…it was gonna be CRIMINALS…remember?

    The Trump administration has moved to reopen hundreds of deportation cases closed under Obama
    Reuters
    Mica Rosenberg and Reade Levinson, Reuters

    (Reuters) – In September 2014, Gilberto Velasquez, a 38-year-old house painter from El Salvador, received life-changing news: The US government had decided to shelve its deportation action against him.

    The move was part of a policy change initiated by then-President Barack Obama in 2011 to pull back from deporting immigrants who had formed deep ties in the United States and whom the government considered no threat to public safety. Instead, the administration would prioritize undocumented immigrants who had committed serious crimes.

    Last month, things changed again for the painter, who has lived in the United States illegally since 2005 and has a US-born child. He received news that the government wanted to put his deportation case back on the court calendar, citing another shift in priorities, this time by President Donald Trump.

    The Trump administration has moved to reopen the cases of hundreds of undocumented immigrants who, like Velasquez, had been given a reprieve from deportation, according to government data and court documents reviewed by Reuters and interviews with immigration lawyers.

    Trump signaled in January that he planned to dramatically widen the net of undocumented immigrants targeted for deportation, but his administration has not publicized its efforts to reopen immigration cases.

  16. 16.

    maurinsky

    June 9, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    I’m getting a pedicure with my daughter tonight; tomorrow I’m going to roadie for a benefit concert for the ACLU and Planned Parenthood, and Sunday I send my kiddo off to Michigan for her summer job. Then it will be just me and my husband, alone in the house. Finally, we can walk around naked again.

  17. 17.

    LAO

    June 9, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    Any Drag Race fans, here? Any guesses on the final 3 tonight? I’m going with Sasha, Shea and Peppermint. I think Shea is going to win, but I like how weird Sasha is.

  18. 18.

    maurinsky

    June 9, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    I also have to move some leeks around in my garden and start piling dirt around them.

  19. 19.

    Bess

    June 9, 2017 at 1:46 pm

    “come down there” ????

    You’re the one at the ass-end of the country.

    There’s nothing more below you but a little bit of Texas.

  20. 20.

    Brachiator

    June 9, 2017 at 1:47 pm

    If you haven’t seen it yet, this would be a good weekend to see “Wonder Woman,” a fun movie. Theaters won’t be as crowded as during the opening weekend, and a good turnout just might push domestic gross to $200 million.

    I’m having some fun with Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind, by Yuval Noah Harari, a look at what we’ve been up to over the past 70,000 years or so.

    A fair description from an Amazon reviewer:

    Harari focusses on the three great revolutions of human history: Cognitive, Agricultural, and Scientific. He asks how “An Animal of No Significance” managed to become the dominant life form, and whether that animal’s learning to produce his own food and then to further harness the natural world to his will through science were boons or setbacks, both for that animal and for the rest of the biosphere.

    And if you missed it, the science stories of the recent discoveries that may push the emergence of homo sapiens back another 100,000 years are really fascinating.

    The remains of five early Homo sapiens have been unearthed at a site in northwest Africa. At around 300,000 years old, the fossils are a whopping 100,000 years older than the previous record, pushing back the origin of our species by a significant margin. And because the fossils were uncovered in Morocco—far from the supposed origin point of our species—the discovery is also resetting our notions of where and how modern humans evolved.

    As always, don’t tell the creationists about any of this, because they get upset over anything that disputes the idea that the Earth is more than 6,000 years old.

  21. 21.

    LAO

    June 9, 2017 at 1:47 pm

    Another question, this time general — how stupid would it be for me to buy a new couch (puppy is currently 14 months old)? How long must I wait, she’s very destructive but not to furniture (yet?)?

  22. 22.

    rikyrah

    June 9, 2017 at 1:47 pm

    @JCJ:

    Is there a shit-show in a thread I should avoid?

    NR’s trolling behind is back.

  23. 23.

    jl

    June 9, 2017 at 1:47 pm

    Other than stewing about how Hillary is a corporate stooge and the devil and Bernie is a Russian spy and the devil, I am happy and the weather is beautiful here on the Left Coast.

  24. 24.

    trollhattan

    June 9, 2017 at 1:48 pm

    @zhena gogolia:
    Angela Merkel in a runaway. Wilmer’s choice of bile martinis would DQ him.

  25. 25.

    SatanicPanic

    June 9, 2017 at 1:48 pm

    Get drunk, go surfing, probably surfing first.

  26. 26.

    Waratah

    June 9, 2017 at 1:49 pm

    My beautiful tomatoes and vegetable garden was shredded last night by hail. Will the tomatoes put out again?

  27. 27.

    Chris

    June 9, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    @rikyrah:

    but but but…it was gonna be CRIMINALS…remember?

    You gotta love it; Trump was saying that we should be very very scared about the tons of rapists and drug dealers coming over the border and someone should really do something about it, which is exactly what Obama was doing in the first place. He comes in, and his first action is to change priorities so that we’re no longer focusing on rapists and drug dealers, just anyone who crossed.

    This is what passes for “keeping us safe” on the right.

    (Of course, the previous “he kept us safe!” president was the guy on whose watch the worst terrorist attack in the nation’s history got through, so no surprise there).

  28. 28.

    different-church-lady

    June 9, 2017 at 1:52 pm

    @trollhattan: I wouldn’t bet against her in a bar fight.

  29. 29.

    O. Felix Culpa

    June 9, 2017 at 1:53 pm

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: I’m equally flummoxed. I have container plants that I’ve grown successfully for years, that are planted under the same conditions, and some are thriving while others just up and croaked. I don’t see any obvious signs of infestation or disease, so I don’t know what’s going on either.

  30. 30.

    Johannes

    June 9, 2017 at 1:54 pm

    I’m reading the new translation of The Red Sphinx, Alexandre Dumas’s late novel, which follows the action of The Three Musketeers by weeks, but has as its hero Cardinal Richelieu.

    Even late Dumas is good Dumas. The comedy is great, a character could have been written for 1970s Oliver Reed, and Richelieu is a boss.

  31. 31.

    dexwood

    June 9, 2017 at 1:54 pm

    My pets can sometimes be irritating bosses. What, I have to feed you again? What do you mean I must open the door for you?

    Dinner with friends this evening. Special screening of The Big Lebowski tomorrow evening with Jeff Bridges and T Bone Burnett present to speak and answer questions. These tickets are a really hot item I scored two months ago.

  32. 32.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes

    June 9, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    You get to a dinner party where there are two tables for five, one empty chair at each.

    The first table has Bernie, Dennis Kucinich, Ralph Nader and Bill Clinton already seated. Table two is occupied by Hillary Clinton, Rush Limbaugh, Donald Trump and Mark Halperin.

    Which table do you sit at?

  33. 33.

    Chris

    June 9, 2017 at 1:56 pm

    @grillo:

    An African rancor, but not a European rancor, that’s my point.

  34. 34.

    gratuitous

    June 9, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    I’m reading Vincent LoBrutto’s biography of Stanley Kubrick. If you’re a photography buff sort of person, and particularly if you remember a time when cameras contained this substance called “film,” I recommend it to your attention. It’s also a good book for folks who enjoy Kubrick’s movies, though it was published in 1997, before Kubrick’s death and before he made the baffling “Eyes Wide Shut,” which I’m still trying to get to like.

    Humorous anecdote: After Kubrick had moved to England (where he had to brook less studio interference), he developed a troublesome tooth. He didn’t trust English dentists, and his assistant arranged to have his New York dentist flown over to Old Blighty. They had to set up a dentist office in the American embassy for the dentist to legally treat Kubrick on what would technically be American soil.

  35. 35.

    O. Felix Culpa

    June 9, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes: With Hillary. Because she’s awesome and we could play drinking games together. Plus point and make fun at the rest of the guys.

    Wait – is this a trick question?

  36. 36.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes

    June 9, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    @LAO:

    Mind bogglingly stupid until the pup is at least 4.

  37. 37.

    amk

    June 9, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes: you would not be invited to both tables.

  38. 38.

    raven

    June 9, 2017 at 1:59 pm

    The guy across the street is being evicted right now. I feel so bad for his little girl.

  39. 39.

    KithKanan

    June 9, 2017 at 1:59 pm

    @currants: This video might help?

  40. 40.

    germy

    June 9, 2017 at 2:00 pm

    On 5 October 1888 Sir Arthur Sullivan attended a “Phonographic Dinner” given by George Gouraud at his London home, after which the guests were invited to record messages for Thomas Edison, inventor of the phonograph, furthering Edison’s idea that his new machine would become a replacement for written mail.

    Sir Arthur Sullivan’s message begins at 0:13, after an introduction by Edmund Yates. This is what he said:

    Dear Mr. Edison,

    If my friend Edmund Yates has been a little incoherent, it is in consequence of the excellent dinner, and good wine which he has drunk. Therefore, I beg you would excuse him. He has his lucid intervals. For myself, I can only say that I am astonished and somewhat terrified at the results of this evening’s experiment – astonished at the wonderful power you have developed, and terrified at the thought that so much hideous and bad music may be put on record forever. But all the same, I think it is the most wonderful thing that I have ever experienced, and I congratulate you with all my heart on this wonderful discovery.

    Arthur Sullivan

  41. 41.

    HeleninEire

    June 9, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    Books I’m reading? Just finished David Sedaris’ “Theft by Finding” Very good. Just started a Stephen King short story collection. Can’t remember the name of the book (he has a number of short story collections). But the first story was titled “Autopsy Room Four” Scared the shit out of me. Which I guess was King’s point.

  42. 42.

    amk

    June 9, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    who is more stupid, twitler or his lawyer?

  43. 43.

    Immanentize

    June 9, 2017 at 2:03 pm

    @raven: So sorry, Raven. It must be hard to have tried but not succeeded over there. Good luck to the sweet little urchin.

  44. 44.

    Yoda Dog

    June 9, 2017 at 2:03 pm

    @Waratah: after a bottle of malbec and some mood music, sure.. (looks around warily..) or so I’ve heard…

  45. 45.

    LAO

    June 9, 2017 at 2:03 pm

    @amk: Don’t make me to choose. Both?

    ETA: to add a word that I left out since without it, my answer made less sense than I usually do.

  46. 46.

    Miss Bianca

    June 9, 2017 at 2:04 pm

    Aw, pretty…and in honor of your photo…The Swallowtail Jig!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZxAVUsuE4Y

    With a side dish of “The Butterfly”, as played by the inimitable Kevin Burke.

  47. 47.

    NR

    June 9, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    @rikyrah: I love that fact-based discussions are considered “trolling” around here.

  48. 48.

    eclare

    June 9, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    @LAO: I have a nine year old dog who is still destructive…

  49. 49.

    Yoda Dog

    June 9, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    @HeleninEire: Good luck with your interview!

  50. 50.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes

    June 9, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    @amk:

    Kasowitz is no Bruce Cutler, that’s for sure.

  51. 51.

    germy

    June 9, 2017 at 2:06 pm

    Reading “Fraud” by David Rakoff.

  52. 52.

    O. Felix Culpa

    June 9, 2017 at 2:06 pm

    Troll. Don’t feed. Etc.

  53. 53.

    HeleninEire

    June 9, 2017 at 2:06 pm

    @Yoda Dog: Thanks

  54. 54.

    LAO

    June 9, 2017 at 2:06 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes: Bruce Cutler’s reputation never matched his actual skill level. In other words, Bruce Cutler is no Bruce Cutler.

  55. 55.

    hueyplong

    June 9, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    @Brachiator: I am also reading Sapiens.

  56. 56.

    delk

    June 9, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    What a difference a day makes!
    Yesterday I met with a whole slew of doctors and completely changed up my drug regimen. With just one day I feel remarkably better. Hopefully with a little bit of fine tuning I’ll feel human again. The last couple of months I have felt like I have been hit by a bus.

  57. 57.

    efgoldman

    June 9, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    BOSTON AREA JUICERS! COME DOWN TO FANEUIL HALL TOMORROW and join me for the Boston Festival of Bands.

    Going to the Pride March? Come down to Faneuil Hall afterwards. We’ll be there all day with a new concert band every hour from 1100am to 500pm (event ends at 600pm)

    The hall is upstairs above the shops. Stairway in the entrance directly across from Quincy Market. Elevator entrance on the left side of the building.

    Come listen and say hello.

  58. 58.

    Keith P.

    June 9, 2017 at 2:08 pm

    Ooh, President Trump will be taking TWO American questions at a press conference. Does Trump have the balls to have them come from Jeff Gannon and Jeff Guckert? I bet the questions suck.

  59. 59.

    jl

    June 9, 2017 at 2:08 pm

    A short video in honor of the AHCA

    Monty Python – Motor Insurance sketch
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO2R_DDZPCM

  60. 60.

    germy

    June 9, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    Glenne Headly, star of films like Dick Tracy, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels and Mr. Holland’s Opus, died Thursday night at the age of 63.

    R.I.P.

  61. 61.

    hovercraft

    June 9, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    Office Of Special Counsel: Trump’s Social Media Director Violated Hatch Act

    President Donald Trump’s official social media director was found to have violated the Hatch Act on Friday, for invoking his White House position while engaging in a political attack, the Office of Special Counsel wrote Friday.

    In a tweet on April 1, White House Social Media Director Dan Scavino urged the constituents of Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) to vote him out of office.

    Dan Scavino Jr.
    ✔
    @DanScavino

    [email protected] is bringing auto plants & jobs back to Michigan. @justinamash is a big liability.#TrumpTrain, defeat him in primary.
    12:33 PM – 1 Apr 2017

    1,581 1,581 Retweets
    3,257

    …………..The Office of Special Counsel agreed: Scavino, it said, “violated the Hatch Act.”

    “Specifically, you alleged on April 1, 2017, Mr. Scavino, while invoking his official position at the White House posted a tweet calling for the defeat of Representative Justin Amash in a primary election,” chief of the Hatch Act Unit, Ana Galindo-Marrone, wrote to CREW.

    Galindo-Marrone added that Scavino had been warned, and that her office would consider such activity in the future “willful and knowing violation of the law.”

    Can someone please explain to these assholes that the Federal Government is not their personal vengeance/ATM machine.

  62. 62.

    amk

    June 9, 2017 at 2:10 pm

    when even pox news polls sez this …

  63. 63.

    Miss Bianca

    June 9, 2017 at 2:10 pm

    @LAO: at least another year. Maybe five. ; )

  64. 64.

    Immanentize

    June 9, 2017 at 2:10 pm

    @efgoldman: I think I will come! I thought after last year you vowed never to do this again? I am glad I either miss-remembered or you changed your mind.

  65. 65.

    Miss Bianca

    June 9, 2017 at 2:11 pm

    @Johannes: Ooh! Never heard of “The Red Sphinx”, and I’m saying this as a Dumas fan for whom “The Three Musketeers” is a desert-island read! Which new translation is this?

  66. 66.

    Citizen_X

    June 9, 2017 at 2:11 pm

    @Mike in DC: Oh, that’s awesome! Good way to flip HPL’s bigotry, and still keep his fervid horror and imagination.

  67. 67.

    trollhattan

    June 9, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    @LAO: Depends partly on breed and the individual dog but I’d say two years is the minimum and can go up from there. An active but housebound dog, maybe never.

    p.s. We have a 13 MO pup and it’s definitely not time for furniture shopping.

  68. 68.

    O. Felix Culpa

    June 9, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    @germy: Oh no. I remember seeing her, John Malkovich, and Gary Sinise at the Steppenwolf Theater, back when the world was young. A lot of talent in that troupe.

  69. 69.

    raven

    June 9, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    @Immanentize: I hope she isn’t there right now, they have cops and a pest control truck.

  70. 70.

    Immanentize

    June 9, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    @LAO: @Miss Bianca:
    Depends on what direction she is destructive? Sometimes pets just pick a particular object of attack and leave other stuff alone. My cat is all about the rugs, but leaves every bit of furniture alone. But my friend’s dog. Pluto, chews wood even if it is a chair leg or kitchen island. But the couches are fine.

  71. 71.

    ruemara

    June 9, 2017 at 2:14 pm

    @rikyrah: Mike Gruenwald did a series of tweets of people he met and talked to during the primaries about who they would vote for and I recall two laughing latino guys in their 20’s saying both side were the same so they were voting for Trump for lulz since it didn’t matter and he was funnier.

    I sincerely hope they lose friends and family, like all the people they’ve put in danger.

  72. 72.

    grrljock

    June 9, 2017 at 2:14 pm

    We went to see “Wonder Woman” on Wednesday, as I consider it my semi-radical lesbian duty to contribute to its box office receipts. Went with summer superhero expectations, came a way liking it, but wishing we could just stay on Themyscira and sign up to General Antiope’s training program. Grateful for Patty Jenkins’ female gaze direction, Gal Gadot’s charm, and Chris Pine’s ease at being the sidekick (this particular Chris must be doing something right with his part in this movie and Ava DuVernay’s “Wrinkle in Time”), Go see it y’all!

  73. 73.

    germy

    June 9, 2017 at 2:14 pm

    @Citizen_X: Lovecraft Country is a great novel by Matt Ruff. I’m glad Jordan Peele is adapting it.

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    Immanentize

    June 9, 2017 at 2:15 pm

    @raven: That is really sad. And evictions in Georgia are notoriously “thorough.” Is there any way to stay in tune with the kid? Not necessarily in touch — just tracking?

  75. 75.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 9, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    I don’t know this outfit, and I think the odds are still at best even, but here’s some good cheer

    Democrat Jon Ossoff leads Republican Karen Handel by seven points among registered voters in an Atlanta Journal-Constitution poll released on Friday.
    Ossoff earned 51 percent support and Handel earned 44 percent support in the poll, conducted by Abt Associates.

  76. 76.

    LAO

    June 9, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    @Immanentize: How’s your wife feeling? How are you doing? I hope all is progressing well with her chemo.

    In professional news that you’d appreciate, my law partner convinced the 2d Circuit to reverse and remand a drug and murder conviction because the district court improperly admitted hearsay evidence. (To suggest he wasn’t stunned, would be an understatement).

    To all those who maybe concerned — I’m quite confident that the defendant will be convicted again at re-trial, only this time maybe the government won’t cheat.

  77. 77.

    Elizabelle

    June 9, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    @raven: What an awful situation for that little kid. Can you maintain any kind of relationship with her, or steer her to a good mentor.

    It’s awful to see little kids with promise and have the adults in their life squander it.

    What does mrs. raven think?

  78. 78.

    Chris

    June 9, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    @ruemara:

    The one time I got cussed out while canvassing for the Dems, it was by an immigrant who, based on appearance and thick accent, is most definitely on Trump’s watch list by now. (Being cussed out for being a public nuisance would be one thing, but it was specifically because, as he proudly said, “we are Republicans!”) I kind of feel the same way about him.

  79. 79.

    hovercraft

    June 9, 2017 at 2:17 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes:

    Table two is occupied by Hillary Clinton, Rush Limbaugh, Donald Trump and Mark Halperin.

    Which table do you sit at?

    Table two, girls need to stick together, and I spent many a miserable dinner being politely obnoxious when my Dada was an ambassador and they forced me to attend the snooze fests. Hillary and I could take turns skewering Twitler and he’d never even know that he was being insulted. I’d need shots before hand of course. Rush is like Twitler, a coward and he starts stuttering when engaged by someone he can’t hang up on, Halpern would be my biggest challenge, not stabbing him with my fork would require all my self control.

  80. 80.

    Immanentize

    June 9, 2017 at 2:17 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: If he wins, I intend to laugh my Ossoff.

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    Tenar Arha

    June 9, 2017 at 2:17 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes: A decade and a half or more ago I’d probably pick Bill’s table, but now I’d sit next to Hillary, ask her if she had some good Mae West type stories to share, and ignore those other guys when they wondered what we we laughing at.

  82. 82.

    ruemara

    June 9, 2017 at 2:18 pm

    @LAO: How To Behave So Your Dog Behaves or Perfect Puppy in 7 Days. There’s ways to redirect the destruction. Tethering, toys, especially food toys, extra playtime, crate training. You can have the sofa, it just takes a little work.

  83. 83.

    HeleninEire

    June 9, 2017 at 2:18 pm

    @germy: When I need a really good cry I open up a bottle of Sauvignon Blanc and fire up Mr. Holland’s Opus.

    Stop judging me, y’all.

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    jl

    June 9, 2017 at 2:18 pm

    @Keith P.:
    ” President Trump will be taking TWO American questions at a press conference. ”

    Please tell us how total your vindication was yesterday when former FBI director Comey swore that you were, are, and will be, innocent of everything forever. Thank you in advance.

    Please tell how the unconstitutional schmuck Comey is a total liar and scummy fink for ratting you out by revealing classified confidential secret society Trump conversations (c) and he is now illegal, your Excellency and my beloved Commander in Chief.of all real Americans.

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    hovercraft

    June 9, 2017 at 2:18 pm

    @amk:
    Twitler, because he’s the moron paying the other moron fifteen hundred dollars an hour.

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    Major Major Major Major

    June 9, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    Weekend plans? Cooking? Pets? Irritating bosses? Read any good books lately?

    This weekend I’m going to work on my book and my comic, and try out some new Chinese recipes from the book we got. Don’t know which yet, something with meat and nuts, fish if we’re ambitious.

    The character whose passage I’m working on right now in my book is just feeing the liberation of not having an irritating boss for the first time in his young life, his sushi apprenticeship having just ended. The main character in my comic will be getting an irritating boss soon.

    And of course my cat is fuzzy.

    Man, you really accidentally listed all my weekend plans.

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    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 9, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    @hovercraft: has the retainer check has cleared?

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    LAO

    June 9, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    Thanks for all the couch advice — I’m going to wait. She part beagle, part pit bull and although she is not destructive of furniture, she is a natural born destroyer of everything else. (her toys, shoes, dog beds, blankets, pillows, all things paper and hard plastic)

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    amk

    June 9, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    @hovercraft: There you go.

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    ruemara

    June 9, 2017 at 2:21 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes: Dude. Only HRC is worth braving the company.

    @raven: I’m sorry, Raven. Losing your home is never easy. It’s worse for a kid. It might be nice to tell her to shoot you an email if she needs an adult to talk to.

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    Miss Bianca

    June 9, 2017 at 2:21 pm

    @Immanentize: Luna the Wonder Husky was a terror about almost anything that caught her fancy if she was left alone in the house and bored (and don’t speak to me about crates – she managed to *escape* her crate and run riot, shredding her blankie-pillow and chewing the couch, the one time I was injudicious enough to leave her crated alone in the house – now the crate is a purely ceremonial hidey-hole and never shut on her), but with particular emphasis on…my shoes. I don’t have one pair of unchewed sandals left, and the dress-blacks I got from the army surplus store for my step-dancing shoes are…altered in interesting ways. She’s five now. :)

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    O. Felix Culpa

    June 9, 2017 at 2:21 pm

    @hovercraft: Paying? Since when does Twitler pay the help?

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    Omnes Omnibus

    June 9, 2017 at 2:21 pm

    @HeleninEire:

    Stop Judging me, y’all.

    No.

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    Immanentize

    June 9, 2017 at 2:22 pm

    @LAO:

    (To suggest he wasn’t stunned, would be an understatement).

    I read that and I’m stunned — for an 803 violation? It must have been one critical piece of hearsay! I tell my evidence students that hearsay objection have to be fought out and won at trial because they almost never win on appeal. Here is the exception that proves the rule. Congrats to your partner.

    On the other front — thanks for asking. She is in the middle of her cycle, so she is exhausted but not debilitated — still working mostly from home. Two more three week cycles (starting next Friday) and then another PET scan. The chemo is so brutal, but maybe working some. Oof.

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    LurkerNoLonger

    June 9, 2017 at 2:23 pm

    @jl: Question one: “Your presidency has the momentum of a runaway freight train. Why are you so popular?”

    Question two: “I love you.”

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    LAO

    June 9, 2017 at 2:25 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    now the crate is a purely ceremonial hidey-hole and never shut on her

    LOL — in my home, the crate (which Maggie never voluntarily entered) is the place where I put things I don’t want her to chew. Nothing, but nothing, will voluntarily get her into her crate.

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    hovercraft

    June 9, 2017 at 2:25 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    He’s his long term lawyer, apparently he actually pays him and Steve “Says Who” Cohen, the rest not so much.
    The other night Rachel told the story of him hiring a lawyer to defend him against some contractors who sued him for non payment, who then had to turn around and sue him for not paying them, based on the case, you’d think they would’ve demanded payment up front.

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    Immanentize

    June 9, 2017 at 2:25 pm

    @Miss Bianca: I love Huskies — especially Wonder Huskies! I went to Northeastern U. (Montessori Law School) so I am a version of a Husky myself. Shoes are just another leather chew toy to some….

  99. 99.

    jacy

    June 9, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    I’ve had this odd and very unsettling feeling for the last week, and finally figured out what it is — I think it’s contentment. It’s lovely here — not too hot yet, and not raining. Threw out some old junk and put together a list of projects to do to improve the homestead. One kid is off on his first big adventure in Chicago, and the youngest is finishing up a week at cooking camp in New Orleans where he had a blast, and now promises to make me chocolate mousse next week. And my daughter has an interview for a teaching job at a school she’s been waiting to get into, which would make a huge difference in her life, so if anybody has any good thoughts to spare, toss them her way!

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    Ruckus

    June 9, 2017 at 2:26 pm

    @JCJ:
    Probably late to this:
    All of them Katie.

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    hovercraft

    June 9, 2017 at 2:27 pm

    @Immanentize:
    Best of luck to you and your wife, sending positive thoughts your way.

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    Starfish

    June 9, 2017 at 2:28 pm

    @currants: It’s usually something that looks like a guitar pick but maybe slightly more sturdy. You can usually find “how to” videos on youtube for your phone and how to tear it apart.

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    LAO

    June 9, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    @Immanentize: My fingers remained crossed — hopefully these next few weeks won’t be so terrible for her.

    The decision was published on the 6th on the Circuit’s website — it’s basically a 41 page decision on what is and what isn’t harmless error; because even though the evidence against the defendant was overwhelming — the hearsay was too toxic for the Court to ignore.

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    efgoldman

    June 9, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    @Immanentize:

    I thought after last year you vowed never to do this again?

    Someday we plan to move to the DC area to be near our kids. At that point I will give it up. OTOH, we’ve been associated with MetWinds (the sponsoring band) for ~40 years, so we’ll see. (in the days before they could afford fancy printed programs, I did live announcing for every concert).

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    Johannes

    June 9, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    @Miss Bianca: It’s a 2016 translation by Lawrence Ellsworth that takes a little known late novel, and adds the novella that wraps its story up. More here.

    I’m a fan of all of Dumas (OK, except Cinq-Mars, which I haven’t read) but especially of the Musketeer Cycle or D’Artagnan Romances as they’re sometimes called. This is a fun from-the-other-side look at the semi-baddies of the earlier novel (Richelieu, Louis XIII).

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    Ruckus

    June 9, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    @Brachiator:

    As always, don’t tell the creationists about any of this, because they get upset over anything that disputes the idea that the Earth is more than 6,000 years old.

    That sounds like a very, very good reason to tell them.

  107. 107.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 9, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    @currants: Looks like the link at #39 answers the call (so to speak)…but I’m curious as to why you’d want what is essentially a dumb phone with a second SIM slot. No use for a GPS or translation software or chapter-by-chapter on-demand downloads of travel guides or e-mail or browsing or games or anything else?

    (FWIW I hope you have better luck with the Tank II than I’ve had with my “smart” BLU Studio X Plus, which I obtained because it had 2 SIM slots but has been a fustercluck of ipecac proportions.)

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    Miss Bianca

    June 9, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    @LAO: Oh, that is funny! Luna will crate herself when she is feeling threatened – like when I want to give her blowy-outy coat a good brushing, for example! – but her latest spots for crashing are in front of the upstairs couch (the DVD-watching spot), and lately, curled up by the toilet in the upstairs bathroom. That’s her new sleeping spot – she’ll start in the crate, but now invariably by the time I get up for my first nightly pee, there’s a Husky Bagel in the bathroom.

    @Immanentize: Huskies are the best. Thanks for the update on Mrs. Immanetize.

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    raven

    June 9, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    @Immanentize: I can’t imagine they are going to be able to find somewhere to lie in our school district. He’s become a pariah with many of the teachers and parents because of his actions. Lots of people have tried to help but, in the end, bailed out. It’s unhappy all around.

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    Ruckus

    June 9, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    @Johannes:
    Welcome to climate change? Even subtle changes can effect some plants, weather patterns, over all temperature changes of small amounts, pollution changes from climate change……….

  111. 111.

    JeanneT

    June 9, 2017 at 2:35 pm

    LOL — in my home, the crate (which Maggie never voluntarily entered) is the place where I put things I don’t want her to chew. Nothing, but nothing, will voluntarily get her into her crate.

    If you ever want to change that, check out the video Crate Games by Susan Garrett (I bought mine from Dogwise.com). I used her basic techniques with some of my private dog training students and it was AMAZING how fast most dogs decided that their crates were fabulous places.

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    trollhattan

    June 9, 2017 at 2:35 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    TBH more than a Democratic House seat pickup I’d love to see the vile Handel repudiated and her political career spiked. Fingers crossed.

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    Johannes

    June 9, 2017 at 2:37 pm

    @Ruckus: But surely not the novels of Dumas?

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    rikyrah

    June 9, 2017 at 2:37 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes:

    the table with Hillary.

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    Ruckus

    June 9, 2017 at 2:37 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes:
    Table 2. I’d get to ignore dumpf and useless mouths and have a nice conversation with Hillary. And if they wouldn’t take the ignore hint I could tell them to fuck off.

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    LAO

    June 9, 2017 at 2:39 pm

    @JeanneT: A serious response — I was working with a trainer, it was her opinion that something very traumatic had happened to Maggie prior to her rescue and adoption because her reaction to the crate was very over the top. We did get her settle there, and I used it for 6 months when I wasn’t home. But once I grew more confident in her and was able to gate an appropriate space, I started leaving her out of the crate. She has been much better behaved (TILL YESTERDAY) and she has always preferred under the couch as her safe space.

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    Betty Cracker

    June 9, 2017 at 2:41 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes:

    I would sit at Hillary’s table and order Limbaugh, Trump and Halperin to swap seats with Bernie, Bill and Dennis. They would not refuse me.

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    AliceBlue

    June 9, 2017 at 2:42 pm

    I’ve read a number of good books so far this year, but if I had to recommend just one, it would be “The Blood of Emmett Till” by Timothy Tyson.

    HeleninEire–the collection you’re reading is “Everything’s Eventual” and you’re in for some treats, especially “The Road Virus Heads North” and “Riding the Bullet” (my favorite).

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    raven

    June 9, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    @raven: live

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    Ruckus

    June 9, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    @delk:
    I’ve had that. The medicine may help something but the side effects can be so annoying that you’d rather have the original issue back. I had one that on the second day after stopping it, it was like someone turned the lights back on. It brightened up noticeably, everything wasn’t some shade of gray. Yeah the pain is back but life is still better.

  121. 121.

    Brachiator

    June 9, 2017 at 2:51 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes:

    You get to a dinner party where there are two tables for five, one empty chair at each.

    The first table has Bernie, Dennis Kucinich, Ralph Nader and Bill Clinton already seated. Table two is occupied by Hillary Clinton, Rush Limbaugh, Donald Trump and Mark Halperin.

    Which table do you sit at?

    Is this a trick question? First table. It would be far more fun. The only person worth talking to at the second table would be HRC.

  122. 122.

    Bruce K

    June 9, 2017 at 2:52 pm

    @currants: I checked for the manual for that phone on Teh Intarweebs (copyright John Scalzi) and it says the cover’s just supposed to slide off. You may have to push down to undo a catch or two; I don’t know.

    (My search terms were “Blu Tank II manual”; I’d post the link, but I’m afraid of the auto-moderator.)

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    bemused

    June 9, 2017 at 2:53 pm

    We bought new garden hoses and I was appalled when I hosed water into a pail. The water was sudzing and smelled odd, like rubber. Even running water for a long time, it still didn’t look or smell “right”.
    So I learned there are hoses made that are “drinking water safe”. I’ve just started asking friends if they are aware of this because we weren’t. We went back to our old hoses because we fill our dogs water pail with hose and grow vegetables. I don’t even want to water my flowers and shrubs with the new hoses. I have no idea what brand of hoses we should look into for safe water yet but the new hoses just freaked me out.

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    Ruckus

    June 9, 2017 at 2:55 pm

    @hovercraft:
    That lawyer is a moron. Working for drumpf for only $1500/hr? That hardly sounds like enough. Four or five times that, with a no return retainer of $250,000. To take the first call. Maybe And that’s pushing the lower limit. Hard.

  125. 125.

    Miss Bianca

    June 9, 2017 at 2:57 pm

    Speaking of reading…I am in the middle of William Shatner’s new collection, “Spirit of the Horse”, which is essentially a bunch of fact and fiction pieces about horses thru’ the ages, interspersed with his own tales about horses he’s known and loved. Since my attention span for reading appears to have become distressingly limited all of a sudden (not sure whether this is a function of age or general bizzyness or both), a book full of short pieces is right up my alley right now.

    Anyway, as someone obsessed with both horses and politics, I thought this observation of Shatner’s was interesting, upon the relation between horsemanship and leadership, and how the decline of the former, in his opinion, has led to a decline in the quality of the latter:

    What we see today are a lot of leaders who incite survival instincts rather than cooperation, with the result that people are becoming more aggressive and flighty rather than building or relying on the strength of the herd. We’re losing that capacity of the individual to lead. We’re losing that because people are not trained to ride anymore. We have people who have not served an apprenticeship commanding in the field, who have only sat at a desk their whole lives, and as a result we’re devolving. We’re actually becoming more frightened and more aggressive, and inciting more fear and aggression in others, rather than overriding our basic survival instincts – which is the entire purpose of a “civilization”, just as a herd: to provide mutual protection and empathy, to become elevated to a higher level of awareness and wisdom and what I would call evolution.

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    satby

    June 9, 2017 at 2:58 pm

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: been having the don’t wannas for the last three days. But I did manage laundry and mowing the grass today.

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    trollhattan

    June 9, 2017 at 2:58 pm

    @bemused:
    Learned of this when we got a camper van and needed a hose to fill the water tank. RV places sell such hoses, which have non-reactive and I suppose food-grade linings.

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    Gravenstone

    June 9, 2017 at 3:00 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes: Slowly and carefully strangle anyone not Clinton, then sit wherever I damn please.

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    Ruckus

    June 9, 2017 at 3:01 pm

    @Betty Cracker:
    LOL
    Somehow I believe you!

  130. 130.

    satby

    June 9, 2017 at 3:04 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes:

    Which table do you sit at

    Neither, I commit seppuku.

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    cope

    June 9, 2017 at 3:06 pm

    @bemused: I bought a “drinking safe” water hose from the auto supply department in (shudders) Walmart for the athletic training room at the high school where I used to teach and coach.

  132. 132.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 9, 2017 at 3:07 pm

    Two festivals here in Bawlmer this weekend: the Honfest (think Hairspray) on the Avenue in Hampden, & St. Nicholas’ Greek Orthodox Church festival in the southeastern corner of the city. The former for ambiance, the latter for vittles & dancing.

  133. 133.

    Mike in NC

    June 9, 2017 at 3:08 pm

    Last night we watched “War Machine” on Netflix. Good black comedy about our endless nation-building effort in Afghanistan, starring Bad Pitt as a narcissistic four star general.

  134. 134.

    Ruckus

    June 9, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    @Miss Bianca:
    That’s a great thing he wrote.
    As a culture we are trying to learn to blend in in all the wrong ways. Rather than open up the concept of belonging, we are closing down the width of acceptance.

  135. 135.

    Major Major Major Major

    June 9, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    @Gravenstone: Might take a while for Limbaugh, you’d need one of them Jabba slave chains.

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    MomSense

    June 9, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    @LAO:

    Do you supervise puppy every minute and crate puppy when you are not there? If yes and yes then yes.

    If no and no then definitely no.

    I speak from experience.

  137. 137.

    Karen

    June 9, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    Yesterday, I finally potted up all my tomato seedlings and set them out in yard; we had frost the other morning and am hoping that was the end of it. I lost the first batch to freeze, am not sure if some of berry bushes will come back or if they have been killed. Renting so doing garden in pots, the only two things doing good are bearded iris and wild strawberries.

  138. 138.

    Mnemosyne

    June 9, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes:

    I sit with Hillary so the assholes get pissed that they have to talk to two women at the same table.

    And then I proceed to fling food at them throughout the entire meal while Hillary high-fives me.

  139. 139.

    MomSense

    June 9, 2017 at 3:14 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes:

    Do I have throwing knives?

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    SgrAstar

    June 9, 2017 at 3:14 pm

    I just finished the Liu Cixin’s riveting trilogy about alien contact, The Three Body Problem. Thought provoking and unnerving. Also too, Hugo Award winner. Dark Forest hypothesis…brrrrrr.

  141. 141.

    LAO

    June 9, 2017 at 3:16 pm

    @MomSense: I have been talked out of a new couch for now.

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    trollhattan

    June 9, 2017 at 3:17 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes:
    Is Mrs. Kucinich there? ’cause I’m sitting next to her.

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    LAO

    June 9, 2017 at 3:18 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    To date, this is my favorite response.

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    Karen

    June 9, 2017 at 3:21 pm

    @Brachiator: I still like the theory that this is/was a prison planet that undesirables were banished to; since every that supports humans appears to be about same age.
    someone suggested that “Seven Daughters of Eve” actually supports that theory; I don’t remember where I heard or read that, have continued to learn since college back in early 70’s and my first hard drive, filing cabinets are all in storage shed the one in back of mind

  145. 145.

    efgoldman

    June 9, 2017 at 3:24 pm

    @hovercraft:

    He’s his long term lawyer, apparently he actually pays him and Steve “Says Who” Cohen, the rest not so much.

    He’s strictly civil litigation the Hair Furor way, right? He might find criminal defense against the federal government another thing altogether.

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    Quinerly

    June 9, 2017 at 3:24 pm

    Still pissed with Poco. Still repairing basement damage. Now that has evolved in cleaning out the basement. Took a break from the dust to spray black wrought iron chairs. Listening to Mark Knopfler (very wise man!❤) and trying to stay away from all things politics. Kicked my broken two year old pressure washer. That helped…me not it.

  147. 147.

    Karen

    June 9, 2017 at 3:25 pm

    @gratuitous: I still hate “Eyes Wide Shut” but that might be biased by my opinion of Cruise

  148. 148.

    Quinerly

    June 9, 2017 at 3:25 pm

    @efgoldman:
    I think he has also handled all of Trump’s divorces.

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    Mnemosyne

    June 9, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    @Brachiator:

    The fact that they found them with evidence of tools and fire use shouldn’t necessarily change where humans first emerged since that’s decent evidence that they were already pretty advanced and could well have migrated there.

    There have apparently been some anomalous human fossils found in California that put the original dates of the land-bridge theory in doubt because they’re older than when scientists were estimating humans first came across the land-bridge from Asia.

  150. 150.

    Karen

    June 9, 2017 at 3:29 pm

    @HeleninEire: did you read the interview with King? he said that the horror in Oval Office is worse than anything he could have imagine, because this is real life and not fiction

  151. 151.

    Miss Bianca

    June 9, 2017 at 3:34 pm

    @Johannes: thanks for the info, I will add it to my list!

    @Ruckus: the other great quote by Shatner I’m digging right now, because it just so sums up the “Why We Do This” for the non-horse-mad:

    The natural reaction of non-horse people, when I talk about some of the horse-riding accidents I’ve had, is, “Bill, why would any sane, reasonable person want to pursue this?” And they have a point. If i’m injured, acting is not something I can easily pursue from a hospital bed. But when you love something – anything – sanity and practicality are not always your guiding principles

  152. 152.

    MomSense

    June 9, 2017 at 3:34 pm

    @Quinerly:

    Sorry about Poco. Do you crate him when you are gone?

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    Karen

    June 9, 2017 at 3:36 pm

    @LAO: I have my pit bull trained to only attack her rope, when I got my first dog at age of 12 my dad sent both of us to training. I have never had any problems with puppies, rehomed, rescued dogs, or just new; but it takes work housebreaking puppy is easy compared to getting through the chewing stage. I can say one thing, dogs are so much easier than children.

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    bemused

    June 9, 2017 at 3:37 pm

    @trollhattan:
    @cope:

    Thx for the info. My husband bought 2 sets of hoses from Home Depot and 2 from Menards. Two for house front tap and other two for back of house. (We have a big yard.) One pair did say drinking water safe on label but it didn’t look much different coming out of the not safe for drinking hoses. I think I need to do some research to find out what brands are actually as safe as the companies claim.

  155. 155.

    PaulWartenberg

    June 9, 2017 at 3:39 pm

    An old friend from high school has an extra U2 ticket for Tampa because her family’s unable to go. She is letting me buy it for face value (plus fees).

    I’ve taken care of a few things writing-wise that is clearing up my cluttered mind, I hope this means I can move forward on more writing.

    If you’re playing Pokemon Go, starting June 13th they will host a special event that will spawn more Fire/Ice Pokemon… which may mean an uptick in Charmanders!

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    MomSense

    June 9, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    @PaulWartenberg:

    Cha cha charmander!

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    gratuitous

    June 9, 2017 at 3:54 pm

    @Karen: One of the things I liked about Eyes Wide Shut is that Kubrick got Cruise to play someone who isn’t 100% sure about everything he says, thinks, and does. But LoBrutto’s biography definitely has me wanting to watch my 2001 and Paths of Glory DVDs again.

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    rikyrah

    June 9, 2017 at 3:55 pm

    @gratuitous:

    not a Kubrick fan.

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    hovercraft

    June 9, 2017 at 3:56 pm

    @efgoldman:

    He’s strictly civil litigation the Hair Furor way, right? He might find criminal defense against the federal government another thing altogether.

    Yup, he was the superstar that won that case in front of that biased Mexican Judge Curiel, he did great with that one, his client only had to pay out 25 million. He’s a superstar, as his error ridden statement yesterday shows.

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    Brachiator

    June 9, 2017 at 3:57 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    The fact that they found them with evidence of tools and fire use shouldn’t necessarily change where humans first emerged since that’s decent evidence that they were already pretty advanced and could well have migrated there.

    Well, these finds, along with discoveries in South Africa, certainly complicates the idea that early modern humans “originated” in East Africa. It also complicates ideas about how long it might have taken early modern humans to radiate all over Africa. These discoveries also make it easy to imagine that a group of humans might have moved from North Africa into Europe earlier than scientists currently think.

    But this stuff is exciting because it suggests that more and more sites need to be considered for the search of human fossils. I love it that my original books on human evolution have more and more chapters that are totally out of date and need to be re-written.

    There have apparently been some anomalous human fossils found in California that put the original dates of the land-bridge theory in doubt because they’re older than when scientists were estimating humans first came across the land-bridge from Asia.

    Very true. Of course the dates of these migrations are hundreds of thousands of years later than the finds now being evaluated.

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    DougJ

    June 9, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    Corbyn proves Bernie would have won

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    Mnemosyne

    June 9, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    @gratuitous:

    I am not a Cruise fan, but he was able to take those lessons and be a better actor in films like Minority Report and Edge of Tomorrow.

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    Mnemosyne

    June 9, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    @DougJ:

    Do you have it in music video form?

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    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    June 9, 2017 at 4:02 pm

    @PaulWartenberg: Does that mean you get to see The Lumineers open? I would love to see them!

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    Origuy

    June 9, 2017 at 4:10 pm

    A friend of mine reviewed a new book on American history. Autumn of the Black Snake by William Hoagland is about a war you’ve probably never heard of. George Washington sent General “Mad” Anthony Wayne to fight a combined force of Native Americans over the Ohio Territory.
    I haven’t read it yet, but it’s on my list.

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    Karen

    June 9, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    @gratuitous: haven’t been in mood for biographies, with all the shit in news (no tv, wasn’t worth the cost of satellite or cable when have internet) have been rereading paranormal romances. I have Noah Chomsky’s latest and a couple on wish list with B&N but there is only so much a person can handle.
    Will put book suggested on wish list; live in middle of nowhere when it comes to books.

  167. 167.

    Karen

    June 9, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    @Brachiator: when I was still living in WI there was small story about well digging company that found “primitive” toys 125 feet down. It was considered a hoax, since that would have put the toys in area before the last ice age in midwest.

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    Karen

    June 9, 2017 at 4:25 pm

    @gratuitous: my first camera came with light meter and book on F stop settings

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    Karen

    June 9, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    @Brachiator: oh, did you see the piece the other day; they found Roman sword and other tools in north america that “prove” that Roman’s explored new world at same time they were conquering British Isle?

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    germy

    June 9, 2017 at 4:39 pm

    @DougJ: Corbyn proves Bernie would have won

    Joy Reid‏Verified account @JoyAnnReid 6h6 hours ago

    The problem with retroactively applying the UK election to the US election is that it’s more likely that absent a Trump win, the Tories win.

  171. 171.

    Karen

    June 9, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    For anyone have gardening problems this year, I remembered something my great grandmother told me that weather, soil and water help nourish plants they are also sensitive to emotions of people. She firmly and strongly believed that, and if the past 60 years of growing plants have taught me anything it is that she was correct.
    what makes it even better? scientists have now “proven” that trees talk to each other, that plants are all connected in some way

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    Brachiator

    June 9, 2017 at 4:49 pm

    @Karen:

    oh, did you see the piece the other day; they found Roman sword and other tools in north america that “prove” that Roman’s explored new world at same time they were conquering British Isle?

    No, I didn’t know about this. Doesn’t sound like much in the way of organized colonization, but I would not surprise me.

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    germy

    June 9, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    @Brachiator: The roman sword theory has some folks skeptical.
    http://www.andywhiteanthropology.com/blog/blade-anomalies-99-bust-the-myth-of-the-roman-sword-from-nova-scotia

  174. 174.

    Karen

    June 9, 2017 at 5:10 pm

    @Waratah: tomatoes put out? okay, done laughing and rolling on floor; you have enough time to start over; plants want to finish life cycle. You can either try trimming back all the damaged or starting over. If you start over I suggest heirlooms, they are more forgiving and seem to recover when others won’t

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    Karen

    June 9, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    @germy: http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/roman-sword-discovered-oak-island-radically-suggests-ancient-mariners-020663

  176. 176.

    Karen

    June 9, 2017 at 5:13 pm

    @Brachiator: have you read “1421, the year China Discovered American”

  177. 177.

    Brachiator

    June 9, 2017 at 5:25 pm

    @Karen:

    have you read “1421, the year China Discovered America”

    Read reviews, but not the book itself. I should probably throw it on my “to read” list.

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    Origuy

    June 9, 2017 at 5:27 pm

    @Karen: OMG, the amount of bogus archaeology on that site! Did Wozizname Discover the Ark of the Covenant in Ohio?
    And here’s a collection of responses to Gavin Mezies and 1421: http://www.1421exposed.com/

  179. 179.

    Camembert

    June 9, 2017 at 5:46 pm

    @Brachiator: It’s been fairly well established that a few folks made it back and forth reasonably regularly. Basque fishing grounds outside Newfoundland, Roman and Chinese coins in South America, some linguistic clues here and there. The big issue is that it was just a little too far and a little too not worth trading regularly until the combination of specific Euro navigation tech and Spanish rapaciousness lead to long-term conquest and settlement.

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    Karen

    June 9, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    @Origuy: @Origuy: it is like anything else, you have got to pay attention to the gems and throw away the garbage. I have found a few good things, but I totally remember what I was taught that everyone who publishes does so in their own best interests. dogs, alive; some publish shit and some actually have a clue. I didn’t believe the theory of pyramids in North America, then I saw the findings of lake fished in. The local fish “club” sprang for money to have lake bottom mapped after claims of “Atlantis In American” we knew based on fishing there was something in middle of lake. So Rock Lake WIsconsin has a pyramid, but that has been a lake since the end of last ice age.
    So I have always tried to have an open mind about anything doing with archeology. There are too many questions and not enough answers, my problem is knowing there should be answers. We know only so much, every time a place is conquered the victors rewrite history. I have doubted since I was a child and was told that the ark landed in Turkey and the highest mountain was in Himalayas

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    BruceFromOhio

    June 9, 2017 at 9:04 pm

    Drinking beer the brew crew crafted five weeks ago and bottled last week. Burping from mondo awesome ribs from the corner rib shop. Surfing for happenings in St. Louis on Sunday, and I think I scored: a Mississippi River cruise on Sunday afternoon sponsored by a local craft brewery, featuring local pickers. I do believe I have found my diversion. And probably more ribs and beer from the local instance of the Flying Saucer. Our way of governing may be vertically fornicated, but Gaia-dammit, I’m going down drinking and eating.

  182. 182.

    BruceFromOhio

    June 9, 2017 at 9:08 pm

    @DougJ: Cats in a handbag, you are such a dick sometimes.

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    BruceFromOhio

    June 9, 2017 at 9:11 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Edge of Tomorrow is like a sci-fi version of Groundhog Day. And Cruise played it with humility, which could not have been easy. Also had a great Bill Paxton role as the drill sergeant, Gaia rest his bones.

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    Nancy

    June 10, 2017 at 7:11 am

    @maurinsky: One of the great parts of empty nesthood. Sad friends facing college and summer camp for the first time are always a bit shocked when I tell them.

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    rmthunter

    June 10, 2017 at 10:48 am

    Nice butterfly. Haven’t seen many here in Chicago — yet. They’ll show up.

    As for the rest, we’re promised a Florida-style heat wave over the next week or so — highs in the lower 90s through Wednesday, then “moderating” to the upper 80s. I’ll be spending a lot of time in the park — along with most of the rest of the city. We still have things blooming — peonies and roses, mostly, but the Siberian and Japanese irises are going strong, and of course, the wildflowers around the wildlife sanctuaries.

    And it’s cooler near the lake.

  186. 186.

    J R in WV

    June 10, 2017 at 11:57 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo fka Edmund Dantes:

    Leave, Now!!!

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