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You are here: Home / “We’re not Nazis, We’re the Fucking Klan” – A One Act Play

“We’re not Nazis, We’re the Fucking Klan” – A One Act Play

by John Cole|  June 11, 20177:00 pm| 116 Comments

This post is in: Clown Shoes, I Can't Believe We're Still Talking About Fucking Nazis

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holy shit: altright nazi loser who thinks frog memes put trump in office vs the nazis who actually put him in office pic.twitter.com/eiiB1JIvOP

— Sam ? Kriss (@sam_kriss) June 11, 2017

It’s all about ethics in bigotry, bro.

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  1. 1.

    dr. bloor

    June 11, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    And not a meteor in sight.

  2. 2.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?

    June 11, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    A distinction without a difference, in the end

  3. 3.

    sdhays

    June 11, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    Wait…what? Was it the thing about Israel that set them off?

  4. 4.

    MomSense

    June 11, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    @dr. bloor:

    I’d settle for a deep sinkhole right about now.

  5. 5.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 11, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    Just came back from watching Wonder Woman. Great movie. Always fun to watch a woman beating down Nazis.

  6. 6.

    NotMax

    June 11, 2017 at 7:27 pm

    The banality of evil, indeed.

    @MomSense

    Ask and ye shall receive.

    Maybe a test run by Mother Nature for the big one?    ;)

  7. 7.

    m0nty

    June 11, 2017 at 7:33 pm

    Looks like they need safe spaces from each other.

  8. 8.

    Iowa Old Lady

    June 11, 2017 at 7:35 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Isn’t is a fun movie? I was surprised by how much I liked it.

  9. 9.

    MomSense

    June 11, 2017 at 7:37 pm

    @NotMax:

    Oh my! Have we been hoping for the wrong disaster all these years. Everybody grab your colanders and concentrate on sinkholes!

  10. 10.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 11, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: To be honest, it was much better than I expected. I’m glad it has done so well.

  11. 11.

    Suzanne

    June 11, 2017 at 7:43 pm

    I signed Lord Dampnut’s birthday card. I absolutely, positively do not encourage anyone else to do the same.

  12. 12.

    Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)

    June 11, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: I rather liked it too (I saw it on its premiere night), but the effects were the weakest part of the movie.

  13. 13.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 11, 2017 at 7:49 pm

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Actually, the weakest part for me would have been any over the top romance between Wonder Woman and Chris Pines’ character. Glad that didn’t happen. I hate action films with added on forced romances. When the two main characters from Jurassic World stopped amid all that dinosaur chaos to kiss, my eyes nearly rolled out of my head. Ridiculous.

  14. 14.

    BBA

    June 11, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Wrong war. Those were Imperial Germans, not Nazis!

    …I’m mansplaining, aren’t I. I’ll fuck off now.

  15. 15.

    KP

    June 11, 2017 at 7:51 pm

    We’re not shit. We are vomit, sir!

  16. 16.

    waspuppet

    June 11, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    “What about the meme?”

    WHAT ABOUT THE MEME

  17. 17.

    Central Planning

    June 11, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Always fun to watch a woman beating down Nazis.

    I’m not a history pedant, but weren’t Nazis WW2? Sure, Germany was one of the Axis powers in WW1, but I don’t believe they were Nazis, even though they might have been showing some of that nationalism.

    But your point is still well taken – it was great to see a woman doing some serious ass-kicking. All of us (wife and 5 kids (4 boys and a girl)) loved it.

  18. 18.

    NoraLenderbee

    June 11, 2017 at 7:56 pm

    @Suzanne: What kind of birthday greetings do you send to an orange asswipe?

  19. 19.

    Smiling Mortician

    June 11, 2017 at 7:57 pm

    @Suzanne: OK, I totally won’t.

  20. 20.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    June 11, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    As a kid in Ohio I remember the Klan did not want anything to do with Neo-nazps, then again many of those Klansmen were WWII veterans, which have mostly died off.

  21. 21.

    Keith P.

    June 11, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    OK, I’ve officially given up on Trump voters seeing any kind of light. They were interviewing a bunch of supporters in Tangier Island, VA, which is sinking under climate change or something. They need funding for whatnot, but they hope Trump will give it to them LOL.
    Anyway, they asked the guy at the end what he likes about Trump. “The wall. Build the wall. I want a wall around Tangiers.” The guy lives on a fucking island and he wants Trump to build a wall around it.

  22. 22.

    Hungry Joe

    June 11, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    @NoraLenderbee: Ah, the eternal question …

  23. 23.

    Smiling Mortician

    June 11, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    @NoraLenderbee: I suggested that he delete his account.

    Er, I mean, I would have, if I’d sent him a message from a nonexistent email address and zip code. Which of course I didn’t do.

  24. 24.

    Thoughtful David

    June 11, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    Cognitive Dissonance Example #346,887,341,008
    So, about five months ago a single guy moved into the rental house across the street. White, age 40 to 45. I introduced myself, we’ve chatted occasionally, never about politics. Seems nice enough.
    When we first met, got around to asking him where he worked.
    He doesn’t; he’s on permanent disability. Said he was a fireman, but has arthritis. Said he has been on disability for 15 years.

    Now go back and calculate: that means he’s been on disability since he was roughly 30.

    So, on Saturday I noticed his car is suddenly sporting teabagger license plates. (Here in Virginia we have a Gadsden flag license plate design highly favored by the teabaggers.)

    Let that soak in for a moment.

    One thing I’d really love to do is give these assholes exactly what they want for others, good and hard.

  25. 25.

    Central Planning

    June 11, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    @BBA: Is it mansplaining if we didn’t know you’re a man?

  26. 26.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 11, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    @BBA: @Central Planning: Okay. I just assumed bad Germans = WW2. Got it. Thanks.

  27. 27.

    BBA

    June 11, 2017 at 8:12 pm

    @Central Planning: what, you’re saying women can’t mansplain now? That’s sexist. :P

  28. 28.

    Central Planning

    June 11, 2017 at 8:14 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: I hope I didn’t come across as an ass, I wasn’t trying to. History has never been my strong suit, and I truly don’t know the origins of the Nazi party or how far back they could be traced. In fact, wikipedia says the Nazi party was active from 1920-1945, so I suspect there’s a good chance the seeds of Nazi-ism started in WW1 (again, not even close to a history buff here)

  29. 29.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 11, 2017 at 8:15 pm

    @Suzanne: First time I’m hearing that it is Trump’s Birthday. I’ve seen many well wishes for Sasha Obama though as she just celebrated her Sweet 16th. She’s grown up to be such a gorgeous young woman. She and Malia will always be my favorite First Daughters.

  30. 30.

    Doug R

    June 11, 2017 at 8:15 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: It’s still beating up bad Germans. Not really any difference.
    POSSIBLE SPOILER
    “She’s taking all the fire! Let’s go!” She doesn’t do it ALL, she takes the lead and lets them help. So cool.

  31. 31.

    Central Planning

    June 11, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    @BBA: Lol, apologies. To quote Nigel Tufnel: What’s wrong with being sexy?

  32. 32.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 11, 2017 at 8:19 pm

    @Central Planning: I didn’t take your comment to be critical. Just assumed that the movie was dealing with WW2. My bad.

  33. 33.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 11, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    @Central Planning: Germany led the Central Powers in The Great War (1914-18). The term “Axis” was coined by the non-Cheeto Benito (Mussolini) in 1936 after Italy signed a treaty with Nazi Germany, claiming that European relations would now turn around “the Rome-Berlin Axis” . (Eventually it would be applied to the Tripartite Pact signed by the Japanese as well in September 1940.) /pedant & proud

  34. 34.

    Iowa Old Lady

    June 11, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Given the title of this thread, your comments fit!

  35. 35.

    frosty

    June 11, 2017 at 8:21 pm

    @Central Planning:

    Germany was one of the Axis powers in WW1

    Actually … they were the Central Powers: Germany, Austria-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, and Bulgaria. Opposed by the Triple Entente: Britain, France, and the Russian Empire.

    /WW history pedant/

    ETA: Curse you Uncle Cosmo! I type too slow.

  36. 36.

    Suzanne

    June 11, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    @NoraLenderbee: I might have said, “Happy birthday—you’re old. Please retire already, and I’ll get you a present. A gold present.”

    And I might have signed it, “Love, Libtard Snowflake Cuck”.

  37. 37.

    Baud

    June 11, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    Not clicking on the video. Not in the mood to watch fools.

  38. 38.

    Central Planning

    June 11, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: I’m a pedant lover, in the platonic sense.

  39. 39.

    frosty

    June 11, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    @Central Planning:

    I suspect there’s a good chance the seeds of Nazi-ism started in WW1

    I’ll go out on a limb and say the NSDAP (Nazi) party didn’t exist during WWI. One of the things that drove them to power was the alt-fact that the Jews had stabbed Germany in the back on the home front and caused the defeat because they totally could have won, you know.

  40. 40.

    Suzanne

    June 11, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    @Suzanne: I may also have made some assertions regarding purported senility.

  41. 41.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 11, 2017 at 8:25 pm

    @Thoughtful David: Cognitive dissonance, my arse. Your neighbor deserves every penny that he sucks out of the gummint that you pay taxes to support, owing to (unless I very badly miss my guess) the melanin deficiency in his epidermis. /down snarkel

  42. 42.

    Suzanne

    June 11, 2017 at 8:26 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Sasha is turning into such a lovely young woman. My girls really enjoyed seeing the pictures of her at her party. She and Malia are just awesome.

  43. 43.

    Central Planning

    June 11, 2017 at 8:26 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: @frosty: So the Axis powers were WW2, right? That seems to be what my quick google search just told me.

  44. 44.

    PaulWartenberg

    June 11, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Um, World War I was pre-Nazi.

  45. 45.

    LesGS

    June 11, 2017 at 8:30 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: I haven’t seen the movie yet, so I don’t know if this is a theme in it, but WW I is a better example of a senseless war than WW II. Sort of dick-waving by various imperial European powers. There were even dysfunctional family issues tied up in it, given the rulers of England, Germany, and Russia were all closely related to one another. :/

  46. 46.

    PaulWartenberg

    June 11, 2017 at 8:31 pm

    @NoraLenderbee:

    Dear trump:
    For your birthday would you do everyone on the planet a favor and F-CKING RESIGN.
    Hug Hug Kiss Kiss.

  47. 47.

    dmsilev

    June 11, 2017 at 8:34 pm

    @Central Planning:

    so I suspect there’s a good chance the seeds of Nazi-ism started in WW1 (again, not even close to a history buff here)

    The seeds of Nazism were started by Germany’s defeat in WWI. A big part of it was something known as the “dolchstoßlegende”, the stabbed-in-the-back-myth. This was the belief that Germany would have won the war, but was stabbed in the back by a bunch of Evil People.

  48. 48.

    frosty

    June 11, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    @Central Planning: Yep, Axis was WWII.

  49. 49.

    dmsilev

    June 11, 2017 at 8:38 pm

    @LesGS: To the movie’s credit, that was a theme. Without giving away the plot twists, the problem was the warmongers, who were present on both sides.

    (wow, sometimes “both sides do it” does actually apply….)

  50. 50.

    Woodrowfan

    June 11, 2017 at 8:39 pm

    @Central Planning: the bad guys in Wonder Woman are going to kill millions with poison gas so it’s close enough….

  51. 51.

    Woodrowfan

    June 11, 2017 at 8:41 pm

    @Central Planning: Google “Freikorps”. The seeds were there and starting to sprout before the Versailles Treaty was even finished.

  52. 52.

    Chyron HR

    June 11, 2017 at 8:45 pm

    “These are good memes!”

    The Cohen Brothers have done it again! ****1/2

  53. 53.

    raven

    June 11, 2017 at 8:45 pm

    @dmsilev: We have plenty of that goin on.

  54. 54.

    efgoldman

    June 11, 2017 at 8:50 pm

    @PaulWartenberg:

    For your birthday would you do everyone on the planet a favor and F-CKING RESIGN.

    “Hope the fuck it’s your last one”

  55. 55.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?

    June 11, 2017 at 8:54 pm

    @Suzanne:

    Dear Lord Shortfingers,

    I just wanted to wish you a happy birthday!

    P.S. Comey would make a better President then you.

    Fuck off

    That was my birthday message to the Loser in Chief

  56. 56.

    Suzanne

    June 11, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?: I think mine said something like, “Happy birthday, you senile ass. Please resign.”

  57. 57.

    Bobby Thomson

    June 11, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Always fun to watch a woman beating down Nazis.

    Never mind. Others have been there.

  58. 58.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    June 11, 2017 at 9:05 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: It’s always fun to watch anyone beating up Nazis…women, archaeologists, jaded heartbroken night club owners, GIs…the list goes on.

  59. 59.

    Bobby Thomson

    June 11, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    @frosty: There is foreshadowing of WWII by the main villain, if you read between the lines.

  60. 60.

    satby

    June 11, 2017 at 9:07 pm

    @Smiling Mortician: Nobody Youknow from [email protected] in zip 41213 just sent a birthday “fuck off”.

    Some people aren’t even humans.

  61. 61.

    D58826

    June 11, 2017 at 9:11 pm

    We seem to have reached peak Clinton derangement syndrome. Our esteemed host is arguing on twitter with some guy over the fact that prison labor was used in the Arkansas governor’s mansion in the 1970s and that proves the Clinton’s are worse than Hitler/Stalin/Mao/PolPot and Castro combined.

  62. 62.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    June 11, 2017 at 9:11 pm

    @Thoughtful David: one of the Trump supporters the local NPR affiliate interviewed at the inauguration was a 100 percent disabled veteran (he stated himself on air that he was on 100 percent disability)…who rode his motorcycle all the way from Oklahoma to be there. How can a guy capable of riding a motorcycle that far be 100% disabled? I mean I don’t begrudge him veterans benefits but he’s obviously reasonably OK physically. And I’m sure he’d tell us all about how everyone else is scamming the system.

  63. 63.

    rikyrah

    June 11, 2017 at 9:12 pm

    Holly Mosher‏ @FilmsForChange

    “No open primaries for Democratic Party equals voter suppression and racism with young independent voters” @NomikiKonst #PPLSummit

  64. 64.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 11, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: don’t know much about motorcycles but they can do some pretty impressive adaptations to cars for the disabled. I can imagine a three wheeler with all hand controls?

  65. 65.

    efgoldman

    June 11, 2017 at 9:15 pm

    @satby:

    Some people aren’t even humans.

    Trumplethinskin deserves exactly as much respect as he shows to the American people.
    Also he’ll never read the damned things because he can’t. It’s a way (they hope) to put more donors on the lists.

  66. 66.

    rikyrah

    June 11, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    Daniel Dale‏Verified account @ddale8

    Fantastic journalism: Tribune proves Chicago property tax system is wildly skewed for the rich and against the poor:

    https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/873968565833039872?

  67. 67.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 11, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: Disabilities can take all shapes and forms. A 100% disability means that the person is unable to hold down a full time job due to the disability. A head injury that affected the guy’s memory but left him physically strong is one possibility.

  68. 68.

    rikyrah

    June 11, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    Adam Khan‏ @Khanoisseur

    Adam Khan Retweeted Mehdi Hasan

    So a string of business deals Trump, Kushner were pushing in Qatar fell apart and apparently contributed to their hostility to Qatar…

  69. 69.

    Brachiator

    June 11, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Just came back from watching Wonder Woman. Great movie. Always fun to watch a woman beating down Nazis

    World War One. The Hub. Baby proto-Nazis, at best.

    .When the two main characters from Jurassic World stopped amid all that dinosaur chaos to kiss, my eyes nearly rolled out of my head. Ridiculous.

    Wait. The killer dinosaurs kissed in Jurassic World? Actually, yeah, I know what you mean. I liked the relationship between Sam Neil and Laura Dern far more than the duo in the latest film. There was no particular reason to go for the safe and conventional romance, especially since it is not what people came to see.

  70. 70.

    Baud

    June 11, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    @D58826:
    @rikyrah:

    Performance art.

  71. 71.

    Baud

    June 11, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    @rikyrah: Makes sense.

  72. 72.

    rikyrah

    June 11, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    Adam Khan‏ @Khanoisseur

    During a pitch, Trump gets smacked down by Qatari sheikh–we all know how he likes to serve his revenge

    https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur/status/874040514349330432

  73. 73.

    Thoughtful David

    June 11, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: Yup. This guy seems to get around just fine, too.

    It’s just the whole “I need this but fvck everyone else” thing going on.

  74. 74.

    rikyrah

    June 11, 2017 at 9:21 pm

    Sen Dianne Feinstein‏Verified account @SenFeinstein

    (1/3) I was on @CNNSOTU to talk about Comey and Trump. The Judiciary Committee must be more active on obstruction of justice issues.
    …
    (2/3) This falls squarely in the Judiciary Committee’s jurisdiction. Time to use our authority to get to the bottom of this.
    …
    (3/3) Attorney General Sessions should appear in public before the Judiciary Committee, the oversight committee for the Justice Department.

  75. 75.

    rikyrah

    June 11, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    Armando‏ @armandodkos

    suspect that what Bernie delegates on Dem “Unity” Commission are angling for is all open primaries and in states that don’t, open caucuses/1
    …
    This is a serious threat to POC in the Democratic Party if true. Wth is @TomPerez up to? Is he going along with this bs? /2
    …
    We need transparency on this now. What’s the story on this @TomPerez ? We have a right to know. /3
    …
    It’s the most important power the DNC has and we have no idea what you are up to @TomPerez ! Tell us what’s going on! Now! /4

  76. 76.

    ET

    June 11, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    This is good. For Great Britain. Not only do they not have to put up with him but they don’t have to worry about an international incident when he fails the protocol test when meeting the queen. I can just see him shoving her to the side for some perceived slight or some other boorish behavior.

  77. 77.

    Baud

    June 11, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    @rikyrah: Interesting. I always thought Armando was a Wilmerite.

  78. 78.

    rikyrah

    June 11, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    What Do We Make of Trump’s Strange Behavior?

    by BooMan
    Sun Jun 11th, 2017 at 09:18:27 AM EST

    I read a lot so sometimes I’ll forget where I saw something. The other day I noticed someone make the observation that one reason it’s hard to get good electoral reform is that the winners of elections are always fairly satisfied with the outcome regardless of any abnormalities or problems that may have occurred. And I suppose, in a case like Donald Trump’s, there may be an element of worry that acknowledging any flaws in the presidential election could damage his legitimacy and undercut the magnitude of his accomplishment. He’s obviously sensitive about the subject as we all witnessed when he went to ridiculous lengths to lie about the size of his inaugural crowds. His repeated insistence that Russian interference is a hoax or fake news designed by Democrats to make excuses for their loss is another indication.

    What I’m saying here is that some of Trump’s stunning lack of interest in getting to the bottom of the Russia question could theoretically be chalked up to psychological and political factors that would influence any winning candidate and party.

    I try to keep this in mind as a sort of innocent explanation because the overall impression is far less understandable. I think we’re all familiar with the plot device in which a spouse comes under suspicion in the death of their loved one because they aren’t showing a normal or appropriate level of emotion. If we used that analogy in this case, Trump would be the husband who didn’t call 911 when he found his lifeless wife lying on the floor. He’d be the one who tried to stop others from calling the cops. He’d be the one who denied that she’d been murdered at all, hired one of the prime suspects to work for him, and tried to use his influence with the mayor to shut down the investigation. He’d say strangely positive things about the prime suspects and have some exculpatory story about a 400 lb. intruder that no one has ever seen. His lawyer would have extensive ties to people who had a motive to kill his wife. His son-in-law would have met privately with them and tried to conceal that fact. And when interviewed by investigators, he never once would express the slightest concern that his wife was dead or any interest in seeing her killers brought to justice.

    A crime has been committed against our country, but Trump was the beneficiary of that crime and is pleased with the outcome. He has no remorse about it. He doesn’t want it investigated.

    So, what are the chances that this can all be explained as normal? Is it really different from how any candidate would feel if their election was called into question?

    Everything Trump does arouses more suspicion. He doesn’t make the slightest effort to look innocent. There’s no right way to act when your wife is murdered, and sometimes people will act in abnormal ways that make them look guilty even when they are not. They might even say, “I’m so glad that she’s dead and that I just bought this giant life insurance policy. I’m rich!!”

    Anything can happen.

    That we have a President Trump is proof that anything can happen.

  79. 79.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 11, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    @Baud: well, he is blaming a a long term and active Democrat for something Wilmer and his cultists are doing, so….

  80. 80.

    Adam L Silverman

    June 11, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    @D58826: What about Attila the Hun? Still not as bad as Attila though, right?

  81. 81.

    Baud

    June 11, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: True enough. But he also seems to be opposing open primaries. It’s a complicated world.

  82. 82.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 11, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    @D58826:

    Clinton’s are worse than Hitler/Stalin/Mao/PolPot and Castro combined.

    But not worse than Jimmy Carter?

  83. 83.

    Adam L Silverman

    June 11, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    @rikyrah:

    independent voters

    I don’t think this means what she thinks it means.

  84. 84.

    rikyrah

    June 11, 2017 at 9:30 pm

    Armando‏ @armandodkos

    Armando Retweeted Jeet Heer

    I really do think we’re owed an explanation why Macron’s landslide win doesn’t have the Deeper Meaning of Corbyn’s close loss.

  85. 85.

    OldDave

    June 11, 2017 at 9:33 pm

    @satby:

    Some people aren’t even humans.

    John Prine: Some Humans Ain’t Human.

  86. 86.

    Baud

    June 11, 2017 at 9:34 pm

    @rikyrah: Jeez. How much does Tom Perez have to answer for?

  87. 87.

    Corner Stone

    June 11, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    @Baud: He’s really not doing a very good job.

  88. 88.

    Baud

    June 11, 2017 at 9:36 pm

    @Corner Stone: It’s a little early to judge, no?

  89. 89.

    efgoldman

    June 11, 2017 at 9:37 pm

    @Baud:

    How much does Tom Perez have to answer for?

    Global warming
    Vesuvius destroys Pompeii
    Hurricane Katrina
    The great flood
    Stalin
    Hitler
    The dust bowl
    The great depression
    James Dean’s death
    Mantovani

    More that I can’t remember right now

  90. 90.

    NoraLenderbee

    June 11, 2017 at 9:37 pm

    Thanks for all the suggestions for birthday greetings. I would never, ever tell the Orange Asswipe that the whole world is laughing at him.

  91. 91.

    Corner Stone

    June 11, 2017 at 9:41 pm

    @Baud: Nope. Someone tell me how we’re going to twist the Trump loser stink over every CD race in 2018.

  92. 92.

    Jay Noble

    June 11, 2017 at 9:41 pm

    @ET: Let’s see . . . The Queen just impetuously says “Here Donald, let me just go ahead and Knight you. Kneel. Oh dear. I do hope that blood stain on the carpet comes out. You Americans do have a way to replace him don’t you?”

    Oh and the Queen is probably packing and knows how to use her weapon.

    Oh matbe she can she sic the Corgi’s on him?

  93. 93.

    Baud

    June 11, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    @Corner Stone: He’s been at the job for 3 months. 2018 elections are 18 months away. Way too early to announce a grand strategy.

  94. 94.

    Corner Stone

    June 11, 2017 at 9:46 pm

    @Baud: Ok, fine. And beyond the Unity Tour motherfucking debacle. Anything else?
    If we’re so smug to say Trump can’t hide behind being “new” to the job any longer, I somehow don’t feel too confident about saying a very accomplished pol needs more time to sprout his fucking wings.

  95. 95.

    Baud

    June 11, 2017 at 9:48 pm

    @Corner Stone: The Bernie thing was a bust. The attempted comparison to Trump’s failings is weak sauce.

  96. 96.

    Adam L Silverman

    June 11, 2017 at 9:51 pm

    @Baud: The policy should be simple: The official position of the DNC is that a Democratic candidate will compete in every election, at every level. The strategy should be equally simple:
    To achieve the strategic objective of running a Democratic candidate in every election at every level the DNC will work with its state and local affiliates to:
    1) Identify one or more candidates that are appropriate, as in a good fit, for the position to be contested and the electorate/district among whom the election will be contested.
    2) Whenever possible, as in it will not cause a mismatch of candidate and district, candidates should come from the key and core constituencies within the Democratic Party.
    3) Identify appropriate monetary and staff resources to support these candidates.
    4) Provide the appropriate monetary and staff resources to support these candidates.

    That is it.

  97. 97.

    Corner Stone

    June 11, 2017 at 9:53 pm

    @Baud: Ok, ok. Let’s regroup after AHCA is passed and Dodd-Frank repeal is signed. Maybe June of 2018 or so?

  98. 98.

    Baud

    June 11, 2017 at 9:53 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Fine here. But you understand that ## 1 and 2 would be interpreted as the Establishment stacking the deck?

  99. 99.

    Doug R

    June 11, 2017 at 9:55 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Rigged! /snark>

  100. 100.

    Baud

    June 11, 2017 at 9:55 pm

    @Corner Stone: So Tom Perez is responsible for what the GOP does? You are doing the same thing that the Bros did during the DNC race and elevating the position of DNC chair to some sort of demigod status.

  101. 101.

    Adam L Silverman

    June 11, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    @Baud: The nutcases freaking out on social media or who show up to county and state party committee meetings and don’t understand the rules are unable to understand, as well as unwilling, that having a party means having an establishment. Even if significant portions of recruiting appropriate candidates is pushed down to the state and county levels. These folks can’t seem to get it through there heads that young and independent isn’t just another way of saying registered Democrat. They are uninterested in actually helping. They are interested in having their every whim catered to.

  102. 102.

    Baud

    June 11, 2017 at 10:00 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I understand. But they have a sitting senator in their corner and a media willing to give him and them air time.

  103. 103.

    Adam L Silverman

    June 11, 2017 at 10:08 pm

    @Baud: I am aware.

  104. 104.

    rikyrah

    June 11, 2017 at 10:08 pm

    LOLGOP‏ @LOLGOP

    LOLGOP Retweeted Families USA

    My guess? Hide the bill. Doom the sick. Uninsure tens of millions.

    Then watch as their tax breaks for billionaires help buy them reelection

  105. 105.

    Corner Stone

    June 11, 2017 at 10:15 pm

    @Baud: Stop yanking my chain, friend. We know what Trump and the GOP are about. We knew before the election and we sure as fuck know 3 months into Tom Perez’s tenure.
    He’s not a God. But for God’s fucking sake we can’t wait any longer to get a unified message out there. And no, I am not saying we don’t “have” a message. I am saying we need to start shoving it down people’s throats in soundbyte form. And that sure as fuck is the job of the DNC Chairman. Raise money and get vocal about the party.
    TP doesn’t pick all the candidates but that job is about two fucking things. Money and messaging.

  106. 106.

    TenguPhule

    June 11, 2017 at 10:15 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:Wonder Woman is set in WW I !!!
    /Pedant

  107. 107.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 11, 2017 at 10:21 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    I am saying we need to start shoving it down people’s throats

    There ya go, a typical Democrat; trying to shove stuff down folk’s throats.

  108. 108.

    sukabi

    June 11, 2017 at 10:35 pm

    @Keith P.: fucking moats, how do they work?

  109. 109.

    sukabi

    June 11, 2017 at 10:47 pm

    @D58826: Hmmmm, I’m of the opinion that using foreign labor at slave wages and in sweatshop conditions to personally enrich yourself would put yourself right up there with the worst of the worst. Being prison labor is part of the whole “If you can’t do the time don’t do the crime” bargain criminals make.

  110. 110.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    June 11, 2017 at 11:02 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: .

    Always fun to watch a woman beating down Nazis.

    Oh god,….WWI Nazis invading a Greek Island, I mean Greece was a neutral in WWI and Germany like it that way and were the frap is the British Royal Navy, with that whole Gallopolii thing going on at the same time, you know? Is there any end of the Derp of Hollywood? I suppose I might be petulant, I suppose I might know to much about history (which is apparently a guy thing now) but saying it’s okay screw the facts if it sounds cool is why we have a comically inept con man as president.

    Anyway, let Lindy and the Great War team tell it as it really happened

    https://youtu.be/qaeTv0GzjIc

    So there.

  111. 111.

    Peale

    June 11, 2017 at 11:08 pm

    @Jay Noble: offer him a lordship. We haven’t gone so far down the rabbit hole that serving in the House of Lords with a foreign title granted by a monarch would be passed over as unrepublican?

  112. 112.

    Peale

    June 11, 2017 at 11:12 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: why do you insist that that island is Greek? It’s hidden by a force shield. It could be anywhere. With all that fog outside the protected zone, I’m guessing it’s in the black sea

  113. 113.

    Wilson Heath

    June 12, 2017 at 12:21 am

    @Suzanne:

    I signed Lord Dampnut’s birthday card. I absolutely, positively do not encourage anyone else to do the same.

    I happened to hear from a friend that they will take your birthday greetings even if the email address is from a non-US domain. No mischief to be had in that, though. No sir ee Bob.

  114. 114.

    pappenheimer

    June 12, 2017 at 1:42 am

    Amazons of the Black Sea, besides being a great title for a cheesy movie, might be pretty close to right – the Sarmatians, who did bury women with weapons and battle armor, occupied an area to the north of the Black Sea.They were known to the Ancient Greeks but weren’t Greek. Check your Herodotus.

  115. 115.

    Bobby Thomson

    June 12, 2017 at 2:52 am

    The location of Themyscira is deliberately left vague. A spoiler-heavy discussion in the comments over here.

  116. 116.

    Origuy

    June 12, 2017 at 3:41 am

    @pappenheimer:

    Check your Herodotus.

    I check my Herodutus every morning in the shower. No lumps yet.

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