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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Late Night Open Thread: You Poor Naive Child…

Late Night Open Thread: You Poor Naive Child…

by Anne Laurie|  June 14, 20172:15 am| 34 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Russiagate, All we want is life beyond the thunderdome, Bring On The Meteor, Security Theatre

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(Ted Rall’s website)
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Back when kree8iv baby names were still a celebrity novelty, the joke was that a kid named ‘Chastity’ or ‘Purity’ was gonna end up on a stripper pole. Possibly the elder Winners should’ve picked a less Trickster-God-tempting name for their little girl…

Yikes: ABC reporting alleges Winner may have leaked to The Intercept because she wanted Greenwald to stop doubting Russian interference. https://t.co/ztTHUywmev

— Matt McDermott (@mattmfm) June 13, 2017

An Intercept podcast appears to have motivated Reality Winner to, allegedly, leak an NSA report on Russian hacking. https://t.co/PtjcQ3LZyi pic.twitter.com/JEsrUpM05I

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So Greenwald & the Intercepters bang on about no evidence. Winner shows them, gets jail. Wonder how soon Greenwald washes his hands of this.

— J Wood (@mxyzplx) June 13, 2017

Sure, he’ll always have the Jacobin broflakes to defend him, but when Ted Rall gives Greenwald the hairy eyeball… truly, these are apocalyptic times.

I think about young people who will come to understand what a president is and does under Trump and it makes me dizzy and sick and sad.

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  1. 1.

    NotMax

    June 14, 2017 at 2:34 am

    Never much cared for his writing but he’s now shot way up on the reputation chart for me.

    Horror author Stephen King says his frequent criticism of President Donald Trump has gotten him blocked on Twitter.

    The author of “Firestarter” and “It” tweeted Tuesday the Republican president has blocked him on the social media website. He says, “I may have to kill myself.”

    …He called Trump “an impulsive, bad-tempered idiot.” Source

    (Repeated from below.)

  2. 2.

    Aleta

    June 14, 2017 at 2:41 am

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    Topher Spiro Retweeted Charles Ramcharan
    Charles Ramcharan @mokojumbee
    I’m worried that people are just exhausted of all this.

    Topher Spiro‏ @TopherSpiro. Jun 12
    @PeterSullivan4 reports tonight that *20,000* comments were submitted! But will Sen. Hatch make them public???
    Topher Spiro @TopherSpiro
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  3. 3.

    Calouste

    June 14, 2017 at 2:55 am

    Terry Pratchett uses the joke about a girl called Chastity becoming a, as he calls it, lady of negotiable affections, in one of his books. She also has a few sisters with similar virtuous names and less than virtuous lives, and some brothers on the straight and narrow with names like Cruelty and Bestiality.

  4. 4.

    sukabi

    June 14, 2017 at 3:00 am

    @NotMax: Drumpf also blocked VoteVets on the tweeter today..

  5. 5.

    SC54HI

    June 14, 2017 at 3:08 am

    Griftwald’s explanation is that, despite being a co-founding editor of The Intercept, he wasn’t actually the editor when Winner sent the materials to them: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/874708705065009152

    ETA: apologies for not being able to embed links!

  6. 6.

    Peter

    June 14, 2017 at 3:15 am

    @SC54HI: What a bunch of mealy-mouthed bullshit. Fuck Greenwald.

  7. 7.

    Morzer

    June 14, 2017 at 3:34 am

    @SC54HI:

    How many footnotes did his multi-volume explanation require?

  8. 8.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 14, 2017 at 3:38 am

    Some obscure castle in Germany scanned from a 110 slide taken in 1979.

  9. 9.

    EBT

    June 14, 2017 at 3:59 am

    Well, four days of writing yielded 2500 words, and a nice screenshot of the flow for it.

  10. 10.

    SC54HI

    June 14, 2017 at 4:05 am

    @Peter: Yep. Par for the course, I’d say.

  11. 11.

    SC54HI

    June 14, 2017 at 4:08 am

    @Morzer:
    Probably not that many. GG says that people who don’t buy this “explanation” are too dumb to comprehend it.

  12. 12.

    opiejeanne

    June 14, 2017 at 4:08 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Isn’t that Neuschwanstein? I think it is old Mad King Ludwig’s digs.

  13. 13.

    opiejeanne

    June 14, 2017 at 4:11 am

    Is it somehow surprising that Ted Rall is dissing GG? I don’t know that much about him.

  14. 14.

    Adam

    June 14, 2017 at 4:22 am

    @opiejeanne:

    Ted Rall is an OG Alt-left crank (and 9/11 truther). If even he’s calling Greenwald out, just wow. . . .

  15. 15.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 14, 2017 at 4:23 am

    @opiejeanne:

    Isn’t that Neuschwanstein?

    Yup, I said obscure in my most snarky voice. ?

    I think it is old Mad King Ludwig’s digs.

    Yes, again; one of his many palaces. He built quite a few.

    ETA: He was a builder, much like the descendant of one of his subjects claims to be.

  16. 16.

    Boussinesque

    June 14, 2017 at 4:25 am

    @opiejeanne: A quick look at the linked website turned up this gem of a quote:

    Then there’s the DNC emails posted by WikiLeaks. As I’ve noted before, WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange said he didn’t get them from Russia. Also at WikiLeaks, Craig Murray says they were handed to him by a pro-Bernie DNC staffer. So it was a leak, not a hack. Anyway, even if Russia gave them to WikiLeaks — which looks doubtful — we should thank Team Putin for revealing just how venal and corrupt the DNC was when they decided to cheat Bernie Sanders out of the nomination.

    Telling the truth about lying DNC scoundrels who belong in prison is “meddling”?

    If so, I’ll take more meddling, please.

    So yeah, unreconstructed “Dems are the worst EVAH! And Julian Assange is totally worth taking at his word!” douchecanoe.

  17. 17.

    Morzer

    June 14, 2017 at 4:33 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Oddly enough, Madame Morzer has just finished a jigsaw puzzle of that mighty edifice. Lots of white and blue and apparently undoable – and yet, three hours later she emerges triumphant. Complex and subtle critters, those wimmins, and far too clever for simple souls like me. I occasionally think about agitating for democracy in our household, but, after all, an efficient and relatively gentle tyranny has something to be said for it.

  18. 18.

    Boussinesque

    June 14, 2017 at 4:34 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Nice picture!
    Unfortunately, the closest I’ve ever gotten to anything similar was playing “The Castles of Mad King Ludwig” board game…

  19. 19.

    EBT

    June 14, 2017 at 4:35 am

    @Boussinesque: Gabriel Knight 2 for myself. Lot of very nice stage recreations of like five rooms of it.

  20. 20.

    Betty Cracker

    June 14, 2017 at 4:40 am

    I utterly despise Rall, but it is almost worth being reminded of his existence to learn that he’s attacking Greenwald as a tool of the Deep State.

  21. 21.

    Morzer

    June 14, 2017 at 4:42 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    One of those situations where rooting for injuries is almost a pleasure.

  22. 22.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 14, 2017 at 4:50 am

    @Boussinesque: Thanks, lets just say that I did some work on that picture. The sky was blown out on the slide so I darkened it and applied a blue filter. We got to see two of his palaces: Neuschwanstein, obviously, and Herrenchiemsee southeast of Munich.

  23. 23.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 14, 2017 at 4:51 am

    @Morzer: I believe you have decided wisely.

  24. 24.

    Morzer

    June 14, 2017 at 4:53 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    I have always been loyal to the Empress!

  25. 25.

    different-church-lady

    June 14, 2017 at 6:16 am

    @Morzer: I’m not rooting for injuries in this case. I’m rooting for the failure of the league.

  26. 26.

    Dr. Ronnie James, D.O.

    June 14, 2017 at 7:16 am

    “Back when kree8iv baby names were still a celebrity novelty…”

    Lest you think Apple Martin* has it bad, at our kids’ daycare they put up a sign welcoming new kids on their first day. One morning ~2 years ago, we walk up and see:

    “Welcome
    ISIS”

    Top that, celebrities!

    * (a mere one letter from “Apple Martini”. Yikes.)

  27. 27.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 14, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    @opiejeanne:

    I think it is old Mad King Ludwig’s operatic stage set.

    FTFY, & I believe you are correct.

  28. 28.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 14, 2017 at 12:17 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Somewhat surprised you didn’t make it to Hohenschwangau, which is MKL’s only halfway-sane edifice; it’s not far from Neuschwanstein & tours out of Muenchen usually include both. Na ja, mir ist’s egal.

  29. 29.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 14, 2017 at 12:20 pm

    @different-church-lady: Not that Persimmon Punchmyface would have any experience with that sort of thing, oh nooooooo….

  30. 30.

    opiejeanne

    June 14, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    @Adam: Thanks. I did not know that about him. Wow.

  31. 31.

    opiejeanne

    June 14, 2017 at 1:02 pm

    @Boussinesque: Jesus Christ on a pogo stick!

  32. 32.

    workworkwork

    June 14, 2017 at 1:52 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: His dad’s place across the road looks like a split-level townhouse by comparison.

    (We went there as part of a school trip back in high school.)

  33. 33.

    Woodrowfan

    June 14, 2017 at 3:25 pm

    they’re not in bed with the SA, they’re in bed with the Russians!

  34. 34.

    J R in WV

    June 14, 2017 at 4:37 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Is that one of Mad King Ludwig’s palaces? Looks more palace than war-like castle, the only castle I’ve ever toured was all arrow-slits with a cannonball embedded in the stone wall.

    @Dr. Ronnie James, D.O.:

    But remember Isis was a famous goddess in mythology before ISIS was the nym for a terroristic rape and murder club.

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