#Juneteenth isn't just an obscure black holiday. It should be a national celebration.
Here is why Juneteenth is important for America. pic.twitter.com/wlii6MnBZK
— The Root (@TheRoot) June 19, 2017
And making June 19th a national holiday sounds like a great idea — in this era of White Revanchist Backlash more than ever!
The current administrators behind the Oval Office sent out a (blessedly anodyne) statement, but I like the last guy’s proclamation better:
… Juneteenth is a time to recommit ourselves to the work that remains undone. We remember that even in the darkest hours, there is cause to hope for tomorrow’s light. Today, no matter our race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation, we recommit ourselves to working to free modern-day slaves around the world and to honoring in our own time the efforts of those who fought so hard to steer our country truer to our highest ideals.
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Apart from that, what’s on the agenda for the evening?
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Join me and @ColorOfChange as we #CelebrateJuneteenth & petition for #Juneteenth to be a National Holiday https://t.co/ridKypL2jQ pic.twitter.com/gvcJ8xoWdn
— TheDevil's Sidechick (@FeministaJones) June 17, 2017
Baud
Happy Holidays! #WarOnJuneteenth
ThresherK
That statement sounds like it came from a greeting card. However, considering Trump’s note in that museum last week, who here really wants him “celebrating” and “commemorating” Juneteenth?
I think it’d be mere words. Cheap, meaningless words his DOJ has been undermining since day one. But as I’m a white suburbanite, others here have more authority to be angry at him than I.
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The thunder has boomed and the skies have opened up here in CT. No matter the water temp in the town pool, it’s a washout.
(And the rain’s not gonna make the pool any warmer tomorrow.)
NCSteve
Dear God. When I read something like that statement from the last actual president, I flash back to the moment when I realized Trump was going to win and literally had to run to the bathroom and vomit.
Even when you know what happened, and know what we don’t know that we ought to know about what happened, it is still inconceivable that we went from that to this. We’re just so broken. Even leaving aside the part where we have a puppet regime installed by a hostile foreign power that has an economy smaller than Italy’s, we’re just so broken.
lamh36
Maybe I’m being too petty, or too Black, but let me get this straight…the Trump co statement on Juneteenth, spent 3/5 of it’s content on the white General reading the proclamation…compared to the PBO co statement that spent 100% of it’s statement focused on ya know the people it DIRECTLY affected…THE FREED SLAVES…
Because of course…
JPL
Happy Day I never heard about Juneteenth until I moved to Texas in the eighties. At that time, I’m not sure how many other states celebrated. My children were in elementary school, and studied about it. Of course, Texas has changed a lot since then.
Baud
@lamh36: I saw what you did there.
WaterGirl
I am worn out from feeling outrage at nearly everything I see reported in the news. I am about to spontaneously combust bust, must somehow find the magic potion of strength and hope in order to keep fighting.
JPL
@WaterGirl: omg.. Last night I fell asleep during Grantchester, but did see My mother and other strangers on PBS. Anyway, my dreams were about James Norton promoting Trump, and My mother and other strangers about Trump’s speeches. I live in GA’s district six, so that could explain some of it. Today I stayed away from the TV.
lamh36
@JPL: I don’t think any other state does. I’m from Louisiana and we learned about it some adjacent cities to Texas have descendants so they may commemorate it. Mostly I think it’s Texas
Baud
This has been another episode of Both Sides Are The Same. Tune in tomorrow when we explore another facet of our politics in which the two sides couldn’t be more diametrically different, even though most people won’t admit it.
lamh36
WaterGirl
@JPL: When Grantchester isn’t safe to watch, you know it’s bad!
Please tell me there is no good reason to think that James Norton would be promoting Trump. It’s so discouraging when I find that actors I like are worse than idiots.
Chet
I had trouble remembering which “teenth” of June was Juneteenth, until I figured out a nice mnemonic today: June and nine both end in -ne. You’re welcome!
JPL
@lamh36: I think that was when my lily white, toe head son asked me what color he was?
He was in first grade. Of course, it was at the supper table because we only ask deep questions at the supper table. Anyway, he explained he didn’t understand because no one is truly black or white. He’s the same way all these decades later. It might have been the same year that he said I just want to tell you I didn’t climb on Mrs. L’s roof at the supper table.
lamh36
Saw this morning there was another report on Carrie Fischers autopsy. I won’t link to it here, but just had to ask, when did it become the norm that folks autopsy report is released for public consumption? So no HIPAA laws violation once you die?
Baud
@lamh36: Don’t think so. It’s a public record of a government official.
JPL
@WaterGirl: It was a nightmare. I haven’t had one that good since the freedom girls.
If you saw Happy Valley though, you know he makes a hell of a villain, but not a Trump one.
as far as I know
lamh36
@Baud: Carrie Fisher was a government official…
lamh36
Um hmm…yet MSM fixed their mouths say that PBO admin was not transparent…if the PBO admin had done this…MSM would be up in arms
trollhattan
@WaterGirl:
Speaking of spontaneous combustion, it’s the climate, always changing, people!
Yesterday we blew through a 75-year old record to hit 106. In more typical years I don’t have to use the A/C until July. Punishment for all the rain, I guess.
WaterGirl
@JPL: I think I tried to watch Happy Valley but it didn’t take. Was that he show that raven liked so well? I might have given it more of a chance if i had known who James Norton was back then.
debbie
@lamh36:
Autopsies are often in the news. Guess there’s no privacy for the dead.
Over the weekend, it was reported that she suffered from sleep apnea, then today, it was all about the drugs in her system. If all that stuff had been in my system, I wouldn’t have been able to even get on the plane.
raven
@WaterGirl: yup
WaterGirl
@Baud: Is the
doctorattorney in?Just wondering what recourse I might have because the evil abusive CEO is playing games with my final 1,500.00 payment and my two reimbursements. Talking about holding them for 30 days, because, I don’t know, because she appears to think she can and that it’s okay to fuck with people’s livelihood.
Baud
@lamh36: A princess…
I was referring to the Medical Examiner.
Jim, Foolish Literalist,
The Rough Beast retweeted this from one of the sons he has a fifty percent chance of correctly identifying by sight
WaterGirl
@raven: Hey, I haven’t seen you here in real time lately. What’s going on with your foot? Just started cramping for no good reason? Has anything helped?
JPL
@WaterGirl: It’s pretty violent and BBC got a lot of flak because of it. It’s normally not my type, but truthfully during the Trump era, I find it easier to watch than Call the Midwifes. Sad but true. The interesting thing about Norton though, he was the perfect villain, and then to see him Grantchester, it was jarring. It took a few episodes of Grantchester to adapt. If you haven’t watched Grantchester, stream that.
lamh36
Sooo…who saw last night’s American Gods season finale?
I don’t think I’m giving any spoilers here, but just in case…SPOILER ALERT
I watched the first broadcast of the finale, and I watched the repeat broadcast just so I could see the Mr Nancy, Bilquis, and Easter scenes again.
I saw a screen clip from this ep of the Bilquis backstory, so I was expecting the 70s bit, but the entire backstory was gorgeous and as per usual, Mr Nancy’s narration was on pointe.
I hadn’t seen the entire blip of Easter, but mahn, that final scene was breathtaking, from Wednesday FINALLY proclaiming his name, to “Easter” letting out her old god glory out!!!
Love…love…loved it.
One of the best new show season finale I’ve seen in a while.
Oh, and I even didn’t mind Laura in this…also too…I didn’t expect it, but damn if Pablo S. isn’t HAWT as hell as Sweeney!!!
I have not read the books, but for anyone who has…was Shadow Moon as “naive” in the book as he comes across on the tv series?
Baud
@WaterGirl: You were an independent contractor, right? If so, probably not more than a breach of contract claim. Not sure if you are entitled to put a lien on their property for unpaid amounts.
Jim, Foolish Literalist,
@Baud: a general!
(or so I gather. The last Star Wars I saw had Alec Guiness in it)
Steeplejack
@trollhattan:
Could you reveal the minor detail of what location you’re talking about?
Tenar Arha
Democrats are withholding unanimous consent tonight and talking against AHCA. Kamala Harris is on CSPAN2 right now.
raven
@WaterGirl: Nothing, slow mag didn’t work. My BIL died yesterday so I’m waiting on the arrangements before I make plans to go to LA.
Baud
@raven: I’m sorry. Condolences.
WaterGirl
@JPL: I am watching Grantchester. Was really looking forward to season 3 and then I saw something in the previews that made me hesitant to watch last night – can’t any show just have a happy ending anymore?
My DVR was 98% full when I quit at the nonprofit so there are nearly a million series I could catch up on, but it’s hard to find anything that doesn’t end the season with someone dying or some terrible thing happening. I finally decided on Scandal because none of the characters are good enough people that I would feel bad when something terrible happens to them.
I think that after working 60-75 hours a week for the past 6 months that reality is hitting me now that I actually have enough time to do more than work and eat and sleep, and I’ve ended up a bit down in the dumps for the past several days. It’s overwhelming to see all the devastation that the Trump administration has brought, and continues to bring.
Baud
@Tenar Arha: Good.
raven
@Baud: It was time.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Yep, an independent contractor.
lamh36
Oooh…Face Off was on one of the cable nets last month…I’ve been meaning to re-watch it…
Face/Off Is 20 Years Old
It’s bold. It’s absurd. It’s about, literally, the swapping of face-skin. It might be one of the best action movies of all time.
WaterGirl
@raven: I’m sorry for your loss raven, and for the whole family. The last few days sounded horrendous, and it’s good that he doesn’t have to suffer any more. And no one has to watch him suffer. I watched a good friend go through that with his wife for 2 dreadfully long years with brain cancer, and for him I think it was a relief when it was finally over.
Baud
@WaterGirl: Don’t really know then. If you were an employee, there would probably be a state agency you could complain to.
JPL
@WaterGirl: I watched it again today, and it was good. The problem I had with Call the Midwife, was I found it depressing, but that was due to what is going on around us. There’s a fine line between touching and depressing. If you really want to see the depths of James Norton’s acting, watch Happy Valley. It’s amazing that it is the same actor.
zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl:
I’m pretty sure James Norton is not a Trumpanzee.
SiubhanDuinne
I’m one of the whitest people you’ll ever meet, and I’ve thought for years that the entire country should celebrate Juneteenth, preferably as a Federal holiday but at the very least as a national cultural observance.
lamh36
Al Roker and Tamron Hall should be getting together for the past 2 weeks LTBAO
debbie
@raven:
Sorry about your brother-in-law. Eat bananas and cantaloupe. Potassium works for cramps.
zhena gogolia
@Baud:
Wasn’t she a general at the time of her death? That’s what Vanity Fair tells me.
Yoda Dog
@lamh36: lol… that movie is terrible and I loved it. I was just a kid when it came out. But I saw it recently and chuckled all the way through it. It’s campy and fun.
Cheers.
Matt McIrvin
@lamh36: I remember that when we saw “Face/Off”, it was in a movie theater that had the sound volume turned up so loud that it was causing massive, ear-shredding distortion in the theater’s speaker system. I might have found the movie good for absurdist laffs had it not been so literally painful to sit through.
zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl:
Well, Grantchester is a murder-mystery series, so people tend to die every week! But I’m as sensitive as they come, and I don’t think you’d be too upset by last night’s episode. I loved it. I love the acting team of Norton and Green, and Norton has great chemistry with Morven Christie.
JPL
@lamh36: Nice
Cheryl from Maryland
@lamh36: I did, and I loved it. In fact, I have been so keen on the entire series. I bought Neil Gaiman’s book when it first came out, but how the show runners have amplified and stretched and enhanced the original for long form TV is just AMAZING. The back story of Bilquis made me weep. I have been pro-Odin since I was a child (I did drawings of him with Hugin and Munin when I was in elementary school, which my confused mother kept), so this last episode was so much Odin and I was so there. However, Pablo Schreiber as Mad Sweeney is killing it, and I’m now confused as to who is my favorite.
zhena gogolia
@lamh36:
lol maybe she should change the name of her show to that (America’s funniest home videos)
zhena gogolia
Where’s Mnemosyne? I wondered if she’d heard Lea Salonga’s wonderful version of “Burn.”
Baud
@lamh36: Good.
lamh36
@Yoda Dog: IKR…it allowed both actors to camp it up as both bad/good guys…
gene108
@lamh36:
Saw it when it came out. I was on college.
Really caught me by surprise at how literal the title was.
lamh36
Ugh…Georgia…please go out there and VOTE AGAINST THIS BISH!!!
JPL
@zhena gogolia: haha.. I started it by stating that I fell asleep during the episode, and in my dreams Norton was talking about Trump.
Uncle Cosmo
@trollhattan: Aaaaaand where are you, exactly?
(Pet Peeve: No list of BJ contributors with their geographic home locations. Other than a few obvious ones, mostly FPers, your weather reports mean fuck-all to me without at least a vague notion of where you’re posting from.
(Better yet, forget the list–rquire every poster to enter their current location & add that to the line with their nym.) (ETA: Start with a requirement that everyone enter a default location to appear in the nym line, with the option of editing it in the comment form before saving the comment.)
JPL
@lamh36: She’s an asshole… I don’t mean to offend you, but locally she supported a candidate for council, who was all about giving builders what they wanted. Now ask me what I really think about her. lol
She might have lost some conservative votes locally because of her stance. I hope so anyway
SiubhanDuinne
@Steeplejack:
Why so harsh? Could be anywhere.
Quinerly
Where’s Mnem? OT…have a link for her if she hasn’t seen it: http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-93885878/
lamh36
@Cheryl from Maryland: I have not read the book. But I do admit, the show makes me want to give it a go.
It’s not my genre of choice, but I could def see reading it on a long vacation trip or plane ride…
stinger
@raven: My sincerest condolences.
Kathleen
@lamh36: While perusing the Googlzzz today I noticed James Risen from the FTFNYT who said in 2014 that PBO was the worstest plague evah on free/transparent media wrote another epistle in December 2016 blaming Obama for the way Trump was handling the press. I won’t even post links.
And that concludes another episode of “FTFNYT”. Tune in tomorrow when we hear:
Anonymous FTFNYT Reporter: Did you see the armed guards in black uniforms that Trump sent over lock the editorial board in the conference room?
Risen: I blame Obama.
MoDo: You mean Obami?
Risen & MoDo: Ha Ha Ha
SiubhanDuinne
@raven:
Please let us know once your plans are in place. Are you just going to in-and-out, or are you going to carve out time for a meet up with some of the Angelinos while you’re there?
amygdala
@Baud: I think you’re right about this. The doctor who pronounces a patient dead calls the medical examiner (ME), who has the option of performing an autopsy under a particular set of rules, such as proven or suspected homicide, evidence that drugs contributed to the death, and various others. If the ME opts to perform an autopsy, family consent isn’t necessary, and I think in most places the report is a matter of public record, like many court records are. I’d be surprised if Carrie Fisher’s death weren’t an ME case.
If the ME declines the case, then the pronouncing doc should go to the next of kin and ask if they’d like to provide consent for an autopsy. If they do, it would be performed at the hospital by one of their pathologists. This doesn’t happen much any more. Autopsy rates have been falling for a long time. It’s unfortunate, because it’s a lost opportunity to pick up learn things that could save someone else’s life.
Baud
The Supreme Court today. Notice who they omitted.
Quinerly
@WaterGirl:
Summed up my feelings exactly.I’m hoping I’m just on overload. Fear that I’m becoming bitter…a lot of hate going on right now
Kathleen
@raven: My condolences, Raven, to you and your family.
WaterGirl
@zhena gogolia:
I love that!
lamh36
@JPL: I really hate getting invested in local stuff like this…cause I know, alot of the times, as much money and calls as one makes…it’s really all about getting out local voters on our side to overcome the GOP sides…
I’m an optimistic pessimist…so I expect the worse, but hope for the best…that’s what I’m trying to do in this case.
I just REALLY, REALLY want Ossoff to win against this witch
Quinerly
@raven:
So sorry. Condolences.
WaterGirl
@zhena gogolia: They can kill as many people as they like, just not the characters I care about! :-)
Yes yes yes yes yes.
SiubhanDuinne
@lamh36:
I would SO LOVE to vote against her. I can’t, I live maybe half a mile from the eastern boundary of the 6th District. But, as I have done now for about half a dozen election cycles (federal, state, and local), I’m doing Voter Protection (aka poll-watching) all day tomorrow.
Quinerly
@zhena gogolia:
Everyone is looking for her?. Just left her a link.
Cheryl from Maryland
@lamh36: I wouldn’t read the book if you are into the TV show. In fact, while I love Neil Gaiman, I find the TV version much better than the book. Shadow has more presence in the show, not to mention Laura, Mad Sweeney, Mr. Nancy (oh so fine Sunday night), in fact, everyone. If you want to read something of Mr. Gaiman’s, read Good Omens (written with Sir Terry Pratchett). While it has been considered for TV for decades!, it is a rollicking good read.
Tenar Arha
SO I got curious and did some page one googling. Only 1 or arguably 2 of our 4 (non fox) local news stations look like they ever mentioned Juneteenth. Then there’s the AHCA, and IIRC in my brief check there’s only 1 station that’s covered what the Senate is planning during this current week.
Does calling news stations and asking them why they aren’t reporting on this daily help?
Quinerly
54% of rural Americans approve of what Trump is doing. WAPO/ Kaiser Survey
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: That election would be an awesome one to vote in. Not only do you get to vote FOR someone you want to win but you also get to vote AGAINST someone you loathe. What a great day to vote.
trollhattan
@Steeplejack: Sacramento Valley, but it’s basically affecting the whole southwest. Am informed heat tourists flock to Death Valley during these events, which has me scratching my noggin at the very thought.
SiubhanDuinne
@Tenar Arha:
Don’t know whether it would help, but it sure couldn’t hurt.
Baud
Meanwhile in South Carolina (WSJ)
WaterGirl
@Quinerly: I read that and thought “then 54% of rural Americans can eat shit and die.” Lovely thought, huh?
I do not want to turn into a bitter, angry person, but with all the hate and madness around us it appears that I will have to put some serious effort into not becoming like the people who have been spreading all the hate. Or maybe I’m just having a couple of rough weeks, hoping for that!
Baud
@Quinerly: That’s much lower than I would have expected.
SiubhanDuinne
@WaterGirl:
Can you move here and establish residency before 7:00 p.m. tomorrow evening?
lamh36
@WaterGirl: yes…it’s always good to have both options…lol
Spanky
@amygdala: Right. There’s a long history of public announcements by the coroner.
Larry Turbo
@lamh36: honestly we need to pack all this away after obama the negro league bunting alll of it. blacks have refused to progress with other progressives in fact they are still engaging in massive displays of their bigotry against queers and others. they aren’t at all equal partners in shouldering the load yet they always show up for cookies obama understood how blacks can get abraisive and how dems can lose by placating their whims. sometimes it’s what you earn and blacks need tough love from progressivess. they have been behaving unacceptable especially for their aspirations to be the base of the party. they attack unions and yet with blacks you don’t get any money like with unions forcing an unholy alliance with wall st in order to tolerate blacks and their non-existent fundraising. they do a lot of talk, they refuse to adapt and they make the dems worse off compensating for what they have destroyed.blacks need to apologize to queers for bill cosby. i mean you know blacks are hooting and hollering about how he got away with raping a queer, it’s like oj all over again
i guess i am just not in the juneteenth spirit this year
JPL
@lamh36: Actually it does. A lot of folks are pro life, and my feeling is that you can’t be pro life and support ACHA. Even though it is local stuff, words like that matter. The idea that once a child is born, they are on their on is repulsive, and the folks I work with know that. Handel’s candidate lost, btw. I think if or when Ossoff loses, it is because of the negative ads against him. The RNC and Pacs have dumped lots of money into this race, and the ads are disgusting.
Spanky
@Uncle Cosmo:
Right!
You go first.
Tenar Arha
@lamh36:I read that years ago, so nothing is fresh enough for me to compare anymore. Plus my favorite older Gaiman novel is Neverwhere so…
Anyway, I don’t remember if I said this here before, but I missed the premiere, so I first saw Orlando Jones doing his Anansi monologue at the beginning of episode 2. “Angry is good! Angry gets shit done.” is everything. That performance grabbed me and made me watch the whole series. Oh, and Gillian Anderson as David Bowie guaranteed I’d continue. Last, I’ve been watching Ian McShane since he played Disraeli.
daverave
@trollhattan:
Turned my AC on for the first time yesterday aussi…. but it’s a dry heat, amirite??!?
lamh36
Oooh…where is Adam S…
I see GG and his Russia-bots bros like Assange are trying to come for Joy Ann Reid…
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: I’m gonna have to go with ‘no’ on that one. Where is Barack’s time travel machine when i needs it?
WaterGirl
@lamh36: Hey, I see that our guy is coming back for another season!
JPL
@JPL: Also to continue my rant, suibhanduinne mentioned on her facebook, someone mentioned about Ossoff busing in folks. I call bullshit on that. The only thing, I have seen is that can you house pro Handel folks from Alabama.
The first election, an Ossoff supporter was approached and asked if she was bused in. She was a local teacher, and I know this because I was there supporting a local candidate. It’s a good sound bite though.
Quinerly
@Baud:
I don’t know what to think or expect anymore.
Baud
@lamh36: I am not authorized to view those tweets.
Baud
@Quinerly: Same here.
amygdala
@Spanky: Heh. I should have mentioned that autopsies done at the hospital with family consent (as opposed to those done by the ME), are reported in the patient’s medical record just as a lab text or X-ray report would be. And also subject to HIPAA, I believe.
zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl:
I didn’t invent it! I read it on BJ!
zhena gogolia
@lamh36:
Me too, but I don’t have much hope.
TenguPhule
@lamh36:
The grave of the Onion is restless.
ET
If he actually wrote that I will eat my favorite pair of shoes. Buckle and all.
Quinerly
@Baud:
In other news, I had totally forgotten how good that Malibu Coconut Rum is…on ice, with lime and muddled mint. Never drink on Mondays….but I told myself muddling mint would be relaxing…plus something I could control.
lamh36
@Tenar Arha: Haven’t read the book, I don’t really know, but from all accounts of folks I trust who have read the book…the casting is SPOT on for every God and un-God character…the casting folks deserve ALOT of praise here.
The cinematography and direction, is nothing less than you kinda expect from someone like Bryan Fuller, if you’ve seen Pushing Daisies or Hannibal…then you know his aesthetic is gorgeous.
The acting and delivery by Orlando Jones, Ian McShane, Pablo Schreiber, Yetide Badaki (Bilquis), Emily Browning (Laura) and even the naivety of Shadow Moon played by Ricky Whittle is all soo good.
I mean…I’d be hard pressed to find a weak casting choice in the bunch, from the big gods to the ‘lesser” gods…
Baud
@Quinerly: My first drunken experience was on Malibu rum!
TenguPhule
@Tenar Arha: Gaiman has a talent for writing really disturbing characters. And some of the situations they end up in are worse.
lamh36
@WaterGirl: Yes…2018 maybe be a good year… February: Black Panther. Luther starts filming early next year, so by Fall next year…new Luther… and November…fingers crossed…Dems win big?
TenguPhule
@Baud:
Baud, you’re terrible at being a politician. Stick to comedy.
Baud
@TenguPhule:
What gave it away?
JPL
@Baud: What is Malibu rum?
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
Huh. Mine was Bourbon and Coke. That was 60 years ago, and I’ve never touched either Bourbon or Coca-Cola since then.
Baud
@JPL:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malibu_(rum)
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne: Yep. Haven’t had the rum since then either.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Tell us more!
Baud
@Baud: I don’t remember!
lamh36
Quinerly
@Baud:
My first ugly, hangover drunk…really my only…third year of college…frat party and rum and Cokes. Never had one since. In fact never had any liquor mixed with Coke since. Very rarely rum at all but someone left this Malibu stuff here a week ago. It looked lonely in the freezer. Never vodka. Beer, red wine, or gin and tonics for me. Rye whiskey straight in the winter.?
lamh36
Ugh…Alan Grayson is trash
TenguPhule
@Baud: When you accepted a bribe you actually stayed bought.
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
It’s a good thing I don’t like Bourbon, because if I liked it I’d drink it, and I hate it.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Not a big fan of rum, I prefer gin.
WaterGirl
@lamh36: I would even give up Luther for a win,. and that’s saying a lot! :-)
Steeplejack
@raven:
Sorry to hear about your BIL. My condolences to your sister and the family.
schrodingers_cat
@lamh36: Is he still a Congressman?
germy
I was impressed with the CBS Evening News tonight doing a segment on Harriet Tubman. They even interviewed some of her living descendants.
I didn’t expect to see the segment on a broadcast news show. ABC News was too busy showing two-headed dolphins or something.
lamh36
Baud
@TenguPhule: Guilty. I’m in the pocket of Big Pet.
JPL
@Baud: It has definitely been around longer than me.. lol
schrodingers_cat
@raven: May he RIP. How is your sister coping? {{{ }}}
TenguPhule
@Quinerly:
What kind of crazy person sticks alcohol in the freezer?
SiubhanDuinne
@schrodingers_cat:
Love rum. My two favourite hot-weather drinks are (dark) rum and orange juice, and (light) rum and tonic. I enjoy the taste of gin, but my system won’t tolerate it.
TenguPhule
@Baud:
Tunch had a trust fund?
TenguPhule
@SiubhanDuinne: Comrade! Rum is one of those things that goes well with almost anything.
SiubhanDuinne
@TenguPhule:
I have had a bottle of vodka in the freezer for as long as I can remember. Stays super cold but because it has a much lower freezing point than water it doesn’t harden or even get granular. Perfect for a summer refreshment.
Quinerly
@SiubhanDuinne:
You sound like me. Coke is evil. My evil experience was rum and Coke….1980. Felt that I was going to be sick in a political theory class the next morning. Ran out of class. The professor called to check on me later at the dorm. I was so embarrassed…I was such a nerd.
Baud
@TenguPhule: A superPAC.
Quinerly
@SiubhanDuinne:
I keep gin in the freezer. It’s perfect.
Major Major Major Major
@schrodingers_cat: remember when he was a progressive hero because he said that mean thing about republicans one time?
Gin & Tonic
@schrodingers_cat: As do all right-thinking people.
JPL
@TenguPhule: It doesn’t freeze.. I had an abundance of cherry tomatoes once, and froze them with vodka . You can take them out of the freezer and serve them on a toothpick with salt. It was quite good.
lamh36
Steeplejack
Jesus, Chris Hayes is having Bernie Sanders on as a guest yet again. Time to go sort my spork collection and wait for Rachel.
SiubhanDuinne
@Quinerly:
Well…knowing what I know now about the sugar content of Coke, that nasty sophomore-in-high-school experience probably saved me from a lifetime of obesity and/or diabetes (diabesity?)
If I’m ever going to drink whisky (very rarely these days), it’ll be scotch.
Baud
@Steeplejack: Oh man, what did we do wrong this time?
SiubhanDuinne
@Steeplejack:
Couldn’t you alphebetize your socks for a change?
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Everything.
Flanders' other neighbor
@Baud: @WaterGirl:
Review employee vs contractor on IRS.gov and see if it’s possible they should not pay you as a contractor. Then suggest to the ceo the state labor board might get a call if you’re not fully paid. Costs them a lot to be forced to reclassify a worker. Could cost you a reference so be careful, of course. Labor boards usually side with the worker, but maybe you truly are a contractor and it won’t work.
Quinerly
@TenguPhule:
I keep all my light liquors in the freezer. Don’t drink vodka but keep it there with the various kinds of gins for friends. Light liquors are perfect in the freezer. Also keep a bottle of cheap whiskey there too…for egg nog in the winter.
WaterGirl
@JPL: Hmm, I wonder if I should try that with some of the sour cherries from my tree?
edit: my popsicles that were 2/3 peach and 1/3 sour cherry were stupendous!
SiubhanDuinne
@TenguPhule:
It does! I seem to remember pouring dark rum over vanilla bean ice cream once, and enjoying the hell out of it.
JPL
@lamh36: Since I have worked locally, I try to be nonpartisan. I also know there are districts near by that he should not have sign wavers, because it’s more likely to encourage the asshole’s folks to turn in and vote. Hopefully the dems have also told him that. I’m tempted to check out a few places near me that went overwhelmingly republican tomorrow.
Mike J
@Quinerly: Vodka is good in the freezer because ideally it doesn’t taste like anything. Gin is full of floral aromatics that you want near room temp so you don’t kill the taste/aroma.
Iowa Old Lady
@lamh36: Hey! None of that identity politics stuff!
Quinerly
@SiubhanDuinne:
Love Sazeracs in the winter made with rye. It’s supposed to be the first American cocktail…from NOLA. Speaking of classic cocktails…ever had a French 75? Gin and champagne. Yum!
JPL
@WaterGirl: It was frozen bloody mary’s and quite good. A great appetizer. I still don’t know about Baud’s rum thing though.
Baud is Baud though
TenguPhule
@SiubhanDuinne: @Quinerly: @JPL: I know it doesn’t normally freeze, but other then wine, beer and certain liquors with perishable ingredients (like Baileys) in the fridge, I’ve never heard of anyone using their freezer to store hard drinks before. Couldn’t do it here, no room with all the food in it.
Steeplejack
@SiubhanDuinne:
The entire content of his message is his local goddamn weather. If he doesn’t say where that is, it’s nothing more than “Southwest is hot,” herp-de-derp.
TenguPhule
@SiubhanDuinne: Did you add a warm gooey fudge brownie to it? If not, be sure to do so soon.
ThresherK
@Steeplejack: Bernie has approached “his own mug in the break room ” status. Like Maverick McMaverick on MTP. Is that ever a good thing?
schrodingers_cat
@JPL: I made some watermelon granita last year spiked with Merlot and a dash of hot salsa from Chipotle . It was so good!
TenguPhule
@Baud:
You forgot to sacrifice the chickens again.
Jim, Foolish Literalist,
@Steeplejack: Bless his heart, Hayes desperately wants this to be a country where Wilmerism is a viable political movement.
Quinerly
@Mike J:
I have one high dollar gin that stays on the shelf, but the cheaper varieties…Amsterdam and Boodles (my go to gin) stay in the freezer. It’s been that way for at least 20 years…old habits die hard.?
TenguPhule
@Quinerly: But where do you keep the ice cream?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Steeplejack: Bless his heart, Hayes desperately wants this to be a country where Wilmerism is a viable political movement.
I was just coming back to post this
SiubhanDuinne
@Steeplejack:
Oh, I know. But it could so easily be from Georgia, or (if my New England friends’ FB posts are reliable) anywhere in the Northeastern U.S.
But I do agree, if people are going to post anything with local content, weather or an obscure political contest or whatever, it would be nice of them to remind the Jackaltariat where they’re from.
Quinerly
@TenguPhule:
Don’t eat that stuff. Didn’t you know it’s bad for you and hard on your system.?
SiubhanDuinne
@TenguPhule:
What’s wrong with you? Have you never heard of a second freezer in the garage?
TenguPhule
Remember that recent fire in the UK? Guess what the council in charge of it had in reserve. 274,000,000 pounds. Which was used to offer TAX CUTS to the highest tier tax payers.
I can’t even.
SiubhanDuinne
@TenguPhule:
Next time, I promise.
Quinerly
@TenguPhule:
Get a refrig with a two drawer freezer. That’s what I did.? I have a very fun kitchen.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
in a not-unrelated note, Joy Reid makes some twitter friends
“cynically instrumentalized”… I wonder if that’s hot off the speaker’s dais at the recent WilmerCon
SiubhanDuinne
@TenguPhule:
Sick beyond any words.
TenguPhule
@SiubhanDuinne:
I thought that one is for the frozen pizzas, turkeys, hams, sausages, frozen vegetables, fish, instant dumplings and french onion soup.
Tenar Arha
@TenguPhule: That opening scene in The Graveyard Book is amazing. And terrifying to read (as an adult). I used to recommend the novel only to 10 and up kids who were fans of scary ghost stories and horror.
Patricia Kayden
@Baud: lol!! You always bring the jokes.
Republican administrations shouldn’t bother pretending to commemorate Juneteenth given how pro-Confederacy they’ve become.
Major Major Major Major
@TenguPhule: I assumed you kept corpses in it.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
When Hayes is good…
this seems like years ago, it was less than two months, I believe
Quinerly
@TenguPhule:
Tell me more about these instant dumplings you speak of.
TenguPhule
@Tenar Arha: That was a classic Gaiman alright. What made it even more creepy was all the stuff implied to be happening but never gone into in great detail in the world building. So many things creeping in the night. The audio version especially was nightmare fuel awesome.
Chyron HR
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I sure hope you neoliberals are proud that you PUSHED Trump to do da bad things durrr.
TenguPhule
@Quinerly: Costco Chicken and Pork Gyoza.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major: Only what I plan on eating. We’re not quite that desperate yet.
Major Major Major Major
@TenguPhule: Trader Joe’s makes them too.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major: We have no Trader Joe’s in Hawaii. As you might imagine, we’re a little bitter over this.
SiubhanDuinne
@TenguPhule:
Primary Freezer: Booze and ice cream
Secondary Freezer: Foods with at least a modicum of actual nutritional value
I like your style, TenguPhule.
Quinerly
@TenguPhule:
Speaking of chickens, America has a chicken snuggling problem: http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-93516386/
frosty
@Baud:
My thought exactly. 54% of rural voters is it?
Steeplejack
@Baud:
Actually, he turned out to be okay this time. I couldn’t rouse myself from the cushy chair and ended up watching it. Bernie raged about the secret Republican cabal that is cooking up its version of the AHCA and managed to avoid blaming all or part of the crisis on the Democrats. He added that the house version of the AHCA was the worst piece of legislation he has ever seen in his life.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
OT: Is tonight the season finale of Better Call Saul? anybody know?
Jeffro
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
They are “deteriorating faster than they can lower their standards” (h/t Anne Lamott)
Tax cuts uber alles!!!
TenguPhule
@Quinerly:
Okay, you got me to laugh.
Baud
@Steeplejack: Good news. This would be a good time for him to ask McConnell to look out of his window.
SiubhanDuinne
@Major Major Major Major:
@TenguPhule:
Chacun à son goût.
Quinerly
@Major Major Major Major:
Oh, those dumplings! Love the pork ones…steam them, boil them, fry them…I don’t consider them “instant” though. They are just frozen dumplings. They, along with TJ’s veggie fried rice keep the booze company in the bottom freezer drawer
Quinerly
@TenguPhule:
?
TenguPhule
@SiubhanDuinne: We are utterly reliant on imports for our food. Even a light blockade would have us resorting to desperate measures after a few months.
frosty
@SiubhanDuinne: @Quinerly: For me, the worst ever drunk was tequila chased with beer. It took me a year before i could smell a lemon without feeling queasy. Three years later a buddy bought me a shot and it came up as fast as it went down. 10 years later my wife made me a margarita and I took one sip and couldn’t finish it.
TenguPhule
@Quinerly:
If you don’t have to make them from scratch, they’re instant.
SiubhanDuinne
@frosty:
Half of 54% is….?
Quinerly
@TenguPhule:
Well, you don’t have to get snippy. Find a chicken to snuggle.
Omnes Omnibus
@frosty: I had a bad experience with G&Ts during my freshman year. It was a year before I could try one again.
SiubhanDuinne
@TenguPhule:
Hawai’ian Oy!
TenguPhule
@Quinerly: That’s pedantic, damnit!
Quinerly
@frosty:
Hmmmm. Did someone say, “tequila?” I got a true story for you: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj2700em-JQ
Iowa Old Lady
For some reason, BJ is the only site I can get to tonight. Everything else refuses to come up. What does this mean?
TenguPhule
@Iowa Old Lady:
You’ve been a very naughty girl?
/Snark
WaterGirl
@Flanders’ other neighbor: Well, she did put some stupid stuff in writing toward the end, stuff like their work week starts on Sunday so she wouldn’t pay me for work done on the Saturday, I wrote back and said that as a contractor, it was my prerogative when my work week started, she wrote back to say that it is her prerogative what she would pay for, etc. So I think she has probably left herself vulnerable.
Thanks for the suggestion, I will go look at the website.
frosty
@Quinerly:
Right! Just pass that ice cream over here and we’ll make sure it won’t do you any harm.
Quinerly
@Iowa Old Lady:
It means you need to read all the comments about booze (I blame Baud!) and tell us a drinking story! Also, chicken snuggling is bad. Don’t do it!
SiubhanDuinne
@frosty:
Sounds as though just about everybody with a really bad “first drunk” experience is, or has been, leery of revisiting any of the ingredients in that initial awful concoction. Someone should do a proper academic survey.
Falling-Down, Knee-Walking, Commode-Hugging Shitfaced, 1950-1966: A Statistical Analysis.
WaterGirl
@Flanders’ other neighbor: P.S. I did the math last week – she would probably owe about 9,000 for the employee portion of payroll taxes, and ti would save me that 9k in what I will owe come next April.
Quinerly
@frosty:
I don’t have any in my freezer to pass. Too much booze, fried rice, and “instant dumplings.”
Baud
@Quinerly:
sniff. I feel like I’m the president already.
WaterGirl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: YES!
WaterGirl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Followed by a Talking Saul – where some of the actors talk about the show.
TenguPhule
@Baud: Your LDL levels say otherwise.
Quinerly
@SiubhanDuinne:
I think we need a musical interlude to prepare for the study: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIrJkNE4Jk
TenguPhule
@Quinerly:
College, 2 large bottles of sake bought by a friend and a drinking challenge.
Laughing and pissing. Thankfully not at the same time.
Gin & Tonic
@Quinerly: My advice, take it or leave it. Do not drink tequila in a bar named “Speedy’s.”
Iowa Old Lady
@TenguPhule: @Quinerly: This is the second time I tried to respond, but it appears BJ is dying on me too. Perhaps I should contact my internet provider.
frosty
@SiubhanDuinne: Excellent thesis suggestion! And to be honest, mine wasn’t a “first drunk” experience, or even a first porcelain convenience experience. Just the worst one. It also involved falling down a flight of 14 concrete stairs, riding my bike back to my apartment in the middle of the night, and dumping it at least twice, once in the middle of the road.
WaterGirl
Drinking stories:
When my beloved cocker spaniel died after being hit by a car when I was 21, my friends thought it was a good idea to take me out to get me drunk. Thirteen (count ’em, 13) 7-and-7s later, I was home puking my guts out and had the dry heaves for 2 days. Even when I tended bar, I could not tolerate the smell of anything in that family.
I worked at the pizza place when I was also 21 and I was dating the manager and we were all at a party drinking shots of tequila when I (apparently not-so-quietly) whispered in his ear some version of ‘tonight’s the night’ because I had gotten on the pill and this was the first night that we were safe and then everyone I worked with knew everything. oops. oh, well. I still drink tequila, though I prefer it in margaritas.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@TenguPhule: I find Gaiman’s prose vastly overrated. I agree with a friend who described American Gods as “mythological tourism.”
raven
Fucking amateurs.
frosty
@Quinerly: You misunderstood. I was encouraging TP to pass HIS ice cream to US. I’m sure we could find a way to keep him safe from it.
TenguPhule
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym: The Graveyard book and Neverwhere are vastly different kettles of fish to American Gods.
Quinerly
@WaterGirl:
See 208….tequila!
TenguPhule
@frosty:
You can have it when you pry it from my cold sugary & creamy fingers.
Quinerly
@frosty:
Ok. That’s better. Just make sure he hasn’t been cuddling a chicken before he passes it.
SiubhanDuinne
@Iowa Old Lady:
BJ per se hasn’t died on me, but all day today after a few minutes my iPad has been cutting out on me and just going to black. Could be solitaire or a word game, FTFNYT or WaPo, email, Facebook, BJ or other blogs, my photo library, Kindle app, doesn’t matter. They all work just fine for a few and then cut out. So annoying.
Steve in the ATL
@Baud:
US DOL. They don’t mess around.
JMG
My first experience with tequila wasn’t until I was 24, and this young woman I liked had me to her house for dinner, and being a Southern California girl, made a pitcher of margaritas. Then another one. We wound up driving from her house in Swampscott (Boston North Shore suburb) to Logan Airport to see if the clergyperson in charge of the chapel did weddings. At 3 a.m., he didn’t, not being there. Just as well in the long run.
Another Scott
@amygdala:
I’m not sure that’s true any more. There has been such a backlog of autopsies in many places due to all the opiod/opiate ODs that “normal” autopsies can take weeks/months…
Cheers,
Scott.
frosty
@raven:
Yep. I pulled up before I hit the bottom that put my brother and sister on the wagon.
raven
@frosty: Been on it for 26 years.
WaterGirl
@Steve in the ATL: So if she doesn’t pay me, you think I could go to the Dept of Labor, even though I am paid as a contractor?
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@zhena gogolia: Are you the person I was talking with about key changes in Hamilton? If so, have you seen the YouTube series How Hamilton Works?
frosty
@raven: Congrats.
trollhattan
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Yes, this is the finale and I’m not kidding when adding am wearing my LWYRUP tshirt as I type this.
I had to ‘splain it to a nice lady a couple weeks back while walking the dog, but if you haven’t seen either show….
Quinerly
@raven:
Congrats!
lamh36
Uh huh… talk is cheap…
raven
@frosty: You also can’t blame shit on drinking. One of my good buddies who got sober 10 years before I do says that he never has that really deep laugh that he used to. One of the only times I had any urge was when I was at a conference in Madison and sat out behind the union on the picnic tables over looking the lake. There were a couple tables full of people just laughing an carrying on. There was a brief twinge but it passed.
raven
@Quinerly: It’s just normal, nothing more.
trollhattan
@Quinerly:
Ah Boodles–the go-to gin for a long while when Trader Joe’s had it for $9.99. Bombay Sapphire was a good stand-in and then a friend turned me on to Hendricks. (Pro tip: Costco carries it in weirdly large 1.75L bottles) It’s G&T season and skeeters are everywhere but my lime tree doesn’t produce for another two months. White linens in the meantime.
Barbara
@raven: On this I happily lay claim to being an amateur. I have never had more than four glasses of anything on any day of my life.
WaterGirl
You know, I thought I had left the trauma behind me (trauma of the huge tree falling on my house 4 years ago) but it suddenly got dark a few minutes ago and strong winds came up and just like that my breathing sped up and I felt flushed.
I immediately get up to get my kitties off the screened-in porch but by the time I got to the door they were running inside. The sky is is now bright again but with a disturbing yellow tint. I just pulled my vehicle up under the carport just in case something crazy happens. Breathing is back to normal so maybe I was right and I have left most of the trauma behind.
John Weiss
@ThresherK: You need no steenkin’ authority. You don’t need a badge.
Kay
Where are all the transparency advocates who were so vocal and diligent during Obama’s two terms and Clinton’s campaign?
They’re writing a law that will impact tens of millions of people and 1/6 of the US economy and they’re doing it completely in the dark. It pulls lower income access to healthcare. It takes away at least 6 k in value from people who make 15k a year in wages and redistributes that to the top 1%.
Surely this is more vital an issue than Clinton campaign emails. You would think some news agency would use all those profits they’re pulling in off of Donald Trump’s hijinks and sue for access to information. They’re just not interested in what’s in the national health care rewrite? That’s secret now?
SFBayAreaGal
@WaterGirl: If you like Bones, their series finale was great.
frosty
@raven: I can see that the social aspect of quitting could be tough, but my brother just hangs out with his club soda and lime. Like you said, just normal, nothing more.
Jeffro
@lamh36: why don’t they all boycott, and then spend their precious airtime noting how historically OFF THE RAILS this administration is? No more debating (or hell, even READING) bills in the Senate, of all places…no more CBO scores…no more press conferences…no more agencies and departments that even try to fulfill their purpose…no more filling government positions…no more backing NATO…no more opposing totalitarian dictators and making human rights a priority…no more honoring our treaties and agreements…
…come on, cable news, we know you’re not up for a complex message so lemme boil it down for you: it’s the JOKER ADMINISTRATION. These clowns just want to watch the world burn.
Omnes Omnibus
@raven: Have the ice cream; it’s really good – made on campus.
Steeplejack
@WaterGirl:
I don’t understand why the starting day of the work week makes a difference. If you did work on Saturday, does it matter if it was day 6 or day 7 of the week? You should still get paid for it, right?
TenguPhule
@Kay:
Counting the money in their pockets. IOIYAR.
Steve in the ATL
@Uncle Cosmo:
Great idea!
raven
From Pete Hammil’s “A Drinking Life”
TenguPhule
@Jeffro:
Worse, they’re not that clever.
Steve in the ATL
@WaterGirl: no, if you’re a contractor it’s just a breach of contract case. Sorry!
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: You seem to be in Boston all the time.
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: It was years ago. The thing that sucked was that, normally, the conference was help at the Union Hotel (or some campus place like that) but it was under renovation and we had to stay at some place 15 miles from campus and get bused back and forth. It was incredibly hot and the rides were school buses with no AC.
ArchTeryx
And I go to bed thanking God for the job, because otherwise I’d be writing my suicide note about now. I didn’t intend to go down the way the GOP death squad wanted me gone, and I am still looking nervously over the gunwales of my lifeboat. If they tank the economy, wreck my state gov. job and/or the employer healthcare market, AND destroy Medicaid, my lifeboat could go down as surely as the ship is going down.
Not taking anything for granted at this point. I’m not safe. Nobody is any more.
Kay
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Assange must be really upset that Trump is just a standard Republican, except more incompetent and corrupt and less transparent. Heck, if they wanted these policies they coulda had Jeb Bush or John Kasich who would at least have followed applicable laws.
Betty Cracker
Our own Tom Levenson is schooling some climate change skeptics on Twitter.
Corner Stone
@Uncle Cosmo: Who gives a shit?
Jeffro
@Kay: It’s a little late, but we clearly need to rebrand the whole thing as “MitchCare”
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: so often that my wife was wearing a Red Sox shirt at Lake Oconee this weekend!
ETA: which is in Georgia
Barbara
@ArchTeryx: I keep meaning to tell you how pleased I was to hear that you are now working at a job that gives you peace of mind on health coverage.
WaterGirl
@Steeplejack: I absolutely agree with you!! But that’s not why she’s not paying. She finally agreed that she would pay me for that.
She’s just holding the 1,500 she owes because she’s a control freak and I’m sure she’s pissed that I left and because she wants to fuck with me and apparently feels like she can. I am beyond pissed.
First she said I would get the money a week ago Friday. Then she wrote to say that without a bookkeeper it was going to take them awhile ti figure out how to write checks. I suggested they could be hand-written and entered into the bookkeeping system at a later date. Then she wrote to say that their new temporary bookkeeper had a list of checks to write but she was sure I would get my checks within 30 days. She’s just fucking with me.
They have 700,000 of grant money that needs to be spent before June 30, so they sure as hell are writing checks. I truly loathe this woman. She’s the one who – when I objected to the yelling and slamming of doors – said that she was the CEO, it was her building, and those are her doors, and she will slam them when she pleases.
What a piece of work. I’ll say one thing for her though, that gig paid for my new porch.
edit: corrected mismatch of subject verb tense.
Corner Stone
@Steve in the ATL:
Pro-tip: that’s not why she is wearing that shirt.
ArchTeryx
@Barbara: It’s only a very loose peace of mind, because a) Hundreds of thousands are still going to die when Medicaid goes away completely, as McConnell wants to do, and b) I’m first hired, which means I’m first fired if the economy completely goes south, and without the Medicaid backstop, this could all turn pear-shaped in a hurry.
Mike J
@Kay:Don’t get overconfident, but hope isn’t lost:
The theory is that Yertle wants it over with, and will call a vote even if he doesn’t have the numbers.
TenguPhule
@Mike J:
And who are the magical three who will defect?
Iowa Old Lady
@ArchTeryx: Nonetheless, we’re happy for you. :-)
Gelfling 545
@JPL: It’s a big deal here in Buffalo. Enormous celebration in MLK Park.
raven
@Steve in the ATL: I used to put in at Swords and Redlands and kill the paper mouths. That was before the fucking runoff from the goddamn golf course fucked up the fishing.
Mike J
@TenguPhule:
Quinerly
@trollhattan:
Throw about 5 drops of Peychaud’s Bitters in that G&T (plus extra lime) and you got yourself a “St. Charles”….an old school NOLA classic cocktail. Great summer drink!
WaterGirl
@ArchTeryx: I guess their problem with ‘uncertainty’ starts and ends with businesses or when the markets feel the uncertainty. Sociopaths, all of them.
What people do with power is very telling, and history will not be kind to them. Of course, that won’t help the people whose lives will be devastated if they get what they want. I cannot believe their wives (spouses) aren’t leaving them and their children haven’t stopped speaking to them.
ArchTeryx
@Iowa Old Lady: They’re wondering why the hell a PhD is tearing into a boring, bog-standard secretary job like his life depended on it. Because very soon, it will. They don’t need to know that little detail, but they know I have active Crohn’s; they’re not stupid, and know without healthcare I die horribly.
They deal with people with all manner of mental and physical infirmities. They know how perilous the lives of the poor are. It just boggles them that one of the people in such desperate straits is a white dude with a PhD.
Phylllis
@WaterGirl:
Well this is some bulls*t, because unless they were just awarded the funds a month ago, it means they haven’t been fulfilling the terms of the grant the way they said they would. Bet a program person for the foundation or agency would be interested to know about this.
TenguPhule
@Mike J: Word was that collin and murkowski are already factored into Mitch the Shit’s count. I’m afraid its another Football, Charlie Brown.
WaterGirl
@Phylllis: You are so right. This is a huge temptation for me, especially because I have a very good relationship with the folks at one of the granting agencies and I have had previous email correspondence with the group that gave them the 1.2 million dollar grant.
I am struggling with the ethics of involving the granting organizations.
bupalos
@SiubhanDuinne: That is simply impossible. June 19th can’t be an American holiday and has to remain a quaintly unspecific “black” fake-holiday because America’s horrid infatuation with the idea of “race” didn’t end or come close to ending or even have a significant transformation on that day or in that era, and practically hasn’t since, not in the decisive sense. You can’t even tell right now where that datapoint lies on the graph. Was it at the beginning, middle, end? Who knows. One is tempted to say that was the beginning, and this is the end. Which is horrible, and means the beginning was the beginning of…not much. An amelioration of evil, a sublimation of it to a level where it could persist and be denied.
I’m mostly reticent to celebrate because it’s supposed to be an end. An end of what? An end to the total, 100% legal consensus that it’s OK to flay me alive because the shade of my skin or my mother’s skin or my mother’s skin was a little darker than the norther euro ideal? Great. I mean, better than what went before, but it feels a little wrong to celebrate it, especially now. Like how, even now- knowing how critical it was and how everything turned out- we don’t really “celebrate” the British escape from dunkirk or the day Einstein left Germany.
If June 19th was conceived of as a beginning, the moment “white” America took one big step on the hundred mile journey to not being completely ignorant, and self-destructively hypocritical (a journey that 150 years later isn’t all that much closer to being complete) then I could be onboard. But that’s really not what it is, and when you step back and lok at it, that “journey” doesn’t actually have a lot of important steps. Take how ever many stutter-steps you want, the issue is the one great leap. June 19th as the day “America technically entered a new legal arrangement with its blacks” isn’t much. That formulation is as much a symptom of a continuing disease as a celebration. June 19th as the day America started to realize who it was, realized what it had been doing to itself, realized what a deluded, empty lie we stumbled into and lay in thrall to, for how long, and how it hollowed out its soul and made all American lives worse and made many literally unbearable. THAT would be a day to celebrate.
SiubhanDuinne
O/T, just saw that Spicer is apparently OUT as Press Secy (possibly going to be WH Communications Director?)
Has anyone else seen this, preferably from a reliable source?
Phylllis
@WaterGirl: Get your money, then make the call.
Brachiator
@lamh36:
Missed the fun discussion. Crazy John Woo directed film, directed with a lot of fun flourishes. John Travolta and Nick Cage were game and played the crazy premise to the hilt.
WaterGirl
@Phylllis: What would I say on the call?
Brachiator
@SiubhanDuinne:
I am waiting for Trump’s Twitter message.
Sab
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:That Dock Currie comment is amazingly nonsensical. Word-salad with six-syllable words are still word-salad.
Phylllis
@WaterGirl: That it would be in their interest to send a program officer to do a monitoring visit, to include reviewing a timeline of expenditures and program activities.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@WaterGirl: Thanks, WG
SiubhanDuinne
@Brachiator:
Sorry, I’ll talk louder. Has anyone else seen this, preferably from a reliable source?
Patricia Kayden
@raven: My condolences to your BIL’s loved ones.
WaterGirl
@Phylllis: Thank you! I saved your comment from #295 for future reference.
It has also occurred to me that I could write to the 1.2 million grant person, letting her know that I am no longer with the nonprofit but that I know continuity is important, so I will make myself available if they have any questions.
debbie
@Steve in the ATL:
Couldn’t she take the CEO to small claims?
WaterGirl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: It hasn’t been renewed yet, but from what I heard on the most recent Talking Saul I can’t imagine that it won’t be renewed.
Quinerly
@SiubhanDuinne:
WAPO reporting it.
Patricia Kayden
@lamh36: To be honest, any media that took part in the farce of a press conference which could not be televised or recorded is useless and should shut down.
Why the MSM is playing along with Trump’s charade is beyond me since he keeps insulting them by calling them “fake news” anyways.
Quinerly
I’m a bit shocked that atty Abbe Lowell would represent Kushner. Looks like he’s considering it.
WaterGirl
@Patricia Kayden:
Absolutely! Have they forgotten that their whole existence is to REPORT on what happens, and that if they aren’t allowed to do that, then they need to get the hell out and report on the fact that they aren’t being allowed to report?
They are a big part of the problem. I know everyone knows that already, but still, it took all the restraint I could muster not to shout that in all caps.
Quinerly
Oh my! An old friend, Ed Dowd (atty from St. Louis) is on LOD.
WaterGirl
@Quinerly: I can’t believe anyone would have anything to do with these slime buckets. Not working for them, advising them, representing them.
Did they learn nothing in grade school????? The cooties are catching.
Patricia Kayden
@Kay: Republicans really feel empowered to get away with nonsense like this. It’s a shame that Americans don’t hold them accountable for their actions and keep rewarding them with votes. Unfortunately they can do anything they want now that they’re in control of Congress.
efgoldman
@Quinerly:
Why? Doesn’t she like money?
zhena gogolia
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:
I’m not sure I said anything about the key changes, but I do want to look at what you posted some time when I’m not about to go to bed!
Brachiator
@SiubhanDuinne:
Melissa McCarthy?
Davebo
@SiubhanDuinne:
It’s on the front page of the CNN site.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/19/politics/sean-spicer-may-be-leaving-the-white-house-podium/index.html
Steeplejack
Ossoff is going to be on Lawrence O’Donnell’s show tonight. (It’s on now, but he hasn’t appeared yet.)
trollhattan
@Quinerly:
Thanks! Noted and flagged. We’ve gathered a pretty good bitters collection–who knew it was a thing? Grapefruit bitters and celery bitters are favs.
BlueDWarrior
@Patricia Kayden: because we don’t have liberal ownership that would recognize things for what they are with the administration. The best we could hope for is individual reporters trying to shame other individual reporters into pulling out until the admin gets their life together, but fat lot of that happening beyond the big boys with some institutional history to preserve.
Mike J
@TenguPhule: It’s not another football unless they’re asking you to do something you don’t want to do. We want to beat it. It’s not over yet. Let’s go beat it.
zhena gogolia
@Mike J:
Yeah. I wish I weren’t preaching to the choir with my own senators. But then I’m glad that’s the case.
zhena gogolia
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:
That looks fascinating! Bookmarked it and will try to remember to return when I’m awake!
Quinerly
@trollhattan:
Peychaud’s is an old NOLA one. I think originally made in a drugstore/apothecary. Most liquor stores carry it. Oddly the ABC stores in NC don’t. I travel from St. Louis to NC with a bottle. Great summer addition to G&T.
Quinerly
@efgoldman:
Well, actually Abbe Lowell is a he. Rather famous atty. He has plenty of money. Been around many, many years.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbe_Lowell
Frankensteinbeck
@TenguPhule:
Gaimen is a short story writer. It’s a problem I’ve had to fight, myself. I do it by treating a book as a short story built out of short stories. Gaimen does it by packing as many extra short stories as he can into a book, usually as origin story style flashbacks. American Gods is particularly bad about that, while Graveyard Book is fairly single-topic. I love Graveyard Book and Coraline.
MoxieM
@ArchTeryx: … they don’t even wonder when you’re female (in my experience). Female = support staff, regardless of the number of initials after your name. They just assume you fucked up your life somehow. Which may or may not be true (in addition to chronic health stuff.) Moreover, if you do have all those advanced degrees, it can even count against you, and you do hear people telling you to take it off the resumé, more than once. Yeah, to hell with those 10 years or so. Pointless!
Flanders' other neighbor
@WaterGirl:
That’s right. And it’s a big deal these days. Check the state labor board for similar information. Two sides to every story and all that, but I hate when people play games as an employer.
amygdala
@Another Scott: MEs were busy even before the opioid epidemic. I was referring to autopsies not involving the ME, and was sloppily unclear. We didn’t get that many of those when I was in training, but we got some, and it was instructive. Now, docs tend not to even ask, even in teaching hospitals. We’ve lost an important feedback mechanism as a result.