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Social Notes Open Thread: Nazi Slapfight!

by Anne Laurie|  June 24, 20174:09 am| 39 Comments

This post is in: Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Assholes, Clown Shoes, I Can't Believe We're Still Talking About Fucking Nazis, Riveted By The Sociological Significance Of It All

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Richard Spencer and @Cernovich are calling each other losers https://t.co/GYJmQshS1j pic.twitter.com/YXO3lZaXP4

— Justin Green (@JGreenDC) June 23, 2017

Hey look, they're not wrong about everything. https://t.co/eC1fZWHoDV

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) June 23, 2017

DC readers: You may want to stay away from the tourist areas this Sunday. Per the Washington Post, “‘Alt-right’ and ‘alt-lite’? Conservatives plan dueling conservative rallies Sunday in D.C.” —

Dueling conservative rallies will be held Sunday in Washington after a split over the involvement of white nationalist Richard Spencer.

The “Freedom of Speech Rally” at the Lincoln Memorial originally included controversial conservative personalities and two people arrested this week after interrupting a production of “Julius Caesar” in New York.

But when some potential participants discovered that Spencer, known for his racial rhetoric, was on the bill, they withdrew and decided to hold a “Rally Against Political Violence” near the White House instead. Liberal protesters also plan to rally Sunday on the Mall to counter the conservative demonstrations.

The “Rally Against Political Violence” — headlined by Roger Stone, an adviser to President Trump during his campaign — is intended to condemn the attack on Republican congressmen during their June 14 baseball practice in Virginia and the “depictions of gruesome displays of brutality against sitting U.S. national leaders,” according to the event’s Facebook page. Stone didn’t respond to requests for comment.

Corey A. Stewart, a darling of the alt-right — a small, far-right movement that seeks a whites-only state — who narrowly lost in last week’s Virginia Republican gubernatorial primary, will also speak at the rally, his first major public appearance since his defeat. Stewart campaigned on unwavering loyalty to Trump, defending Virginia’s Confederate monuments and condemning what he called an “unhinged” left and the eventual GOP nominee Ed Gillespie, whom he blasted as a Washington insider and “cuckservative.”…

According to National Park Service permits for the two rallies, 400 people are expected to attend each event…

… including 150 undercover agents of various ‘national security’ orgs, and half as many self-styled ‘freelance journalists’. Looks like the Antifas are getting savvier, at least:

…Mike Stark, a member of the left-leaning D.C. United Against Hate, said his group also will be at the Lincoln Memorial. It has applied for a permit and is in contact with the Park Service, although the agency had not issued a permit as of Thursday afternoon….

Hoping to avoid any confrontation, the far-left D.C. Anti-Fascists Coalition will have a counterdemonstration of its own on Sunday — the “Really Really Free Speech Rally” — at D.C. police headquarters.

“We are the ones who materially have our actual speech impinged upon on a regular basis,” organizer Lacy MacAuley said. “It’s not a body of people who are white dudes.”…

The SPLC has much more granular detail, if you’re curious [trigger warning: ugly stupid people memes cited]:

… Although the alt-right presents itself as a new kind of white male nationalism rewired for the 21st century, it is proving in practice to have many of the same qualities as its old 20th-century forebears: Riddled with infighting and internecine quarrels, the product of a movement whose sociopathic agenda attracts similar personalities, ego-driven and contentious.

The infighting, which first erupted last week between far-right Oath Keepers and white nationalist alt-righters, deepened this week when two factions — outright white nationalists and committed racists on one hand, and alt-righters (dismissed as the “alt-light”) who disavow them and their politics while embracing the movement agenda — squared off on social media over a series of “free speech” events aimed at provoking left-wing counter-protests and, potentially violence…

Seriously, though — these goobs are getting hopped up on their own rhetoric, encouraging each other to FIGHT BACK!!!1!!, and it’s not always going to end quietly when they insist on whipping their neuroses out in public.

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  1. 1.

    Amir Khalid

    June 24, 2017 at 4:23 am

    Splitters!

    Also, too: First!

  2. 2.

    Karmus

    June 24, 2017 at 4:31 am

    Can’t we all just get along? If even our hate won’t unite us, what’s left?

    What, oh, what could it be?

  3. 3.

    Damien

    June 24, 2017 at 4:54 am

    Honestly, let’s figure out how to get them all in a room to talk it out.

    Then let’s lock the doors and burn that motherfucker down.

  4. 4.

    Elizabelle

    June 24, 2017 at 4:59 am

    @Amir Khalid: How goes the guitar search? Now you’ve got me interested in getting a beginner guitar set.

  5. 5.

    Amir Khalid

    June 24, 2017 at 5:07 am

    @Elizabelle:
    I’ve found a few online vendors, now it’s just a matter of picking one and working up the nerve to use my debit card. Probably sometime after the Eid holidays.

  6. 6.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 24, 2017 at 5:16 am

    OT, reading about the LA teen killed by a stray bullet:

    Officers were responding to a call about “loud music” early Thursday morning when a pit bull charged at the deputies and bit one of them, according to authorities in California. A 17-year-old, identified by family members as Armando Garcia-Muro, initially restrained the dog, but the animal got loose, prompting two deputies to fire from about 5ft away, police said.

    Garcia-Muro was hit in the chest during the gunfire and later died at hospital, according to the sheriff’s office, which said it appeared a “skip round” had struck the teenager.
    …..
    The death of Garcia-Muro, who lived in the city of Palmdale and would have been entering his senior year in the fall, was an “extremely unfortunate incident”, according to sheriff’s officials, who said five deputies were present and two of them fired around six to eight rounds.

    I won’t go into the absolute stupidity displayed in this incident (firing a weapon when there are people in the line of fire??????) but take note of the highlighted part and then read this:

    In a press release, the sheriff’s office labeled Garcia-Muro a “suspect” even though he was not accused of any criminal activity. Authorities also claimed that deputies had responded “at least four times” to the address for “loud music and gang activity” in the past two months.

    They didn’t mean to shoot him but if they had wanted too, they would have been totally in the right to have done so. See? It’s all OK, only bad people get accidentally shot by cops.

  7. 7.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 24, 2017 at 5:19 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    working up the nerve to use my debit card.

    Heh.

  8. 8.

    Quaker in a Basement

    June 24, 2017 at 5:25 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Good post. Thank you.

  9. 9.

    raven

    June 24, 2017 at 5:28 am

    @Amir Khalid: If you get a chance to watch the new Jim Jarmusch film, “Paterson”, do. There is a nice guitar purchase twist in it.

  10. 10.

    Elizabelle

    June 24, 2017 at 5:58 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: And the dog survived. It will be euthanized, but…

    One of the officers was injured by a bullet fragment.

    They need to retrain these cops.

  11. 11.

    Morzer

    June 24, 2017 at 6:09 am

    So the real Illinois Nazis hate the fake Illinois Nazis too.

  12. 12.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 24, 2017 at 6:15 am

    @Elizabelle: I have said many times (to gun owners in discussions concerning carry laws) that we all know someone who should not be allowed to carry a gun. Sadly, some of them are cops.

  13. 13.

    JPL

    June 24, 2017 at 6:25 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I just watched the Philando Castile video released by the police. Accidental shootings of black people are going to continue, until they hire and train more qualified people.

  14. 14.

    Lalophobia

    June 24, 2017 at 6:34 am

    OT but hey, I didn’t notice the pie filter’s built in now. Neat.

  15. 15.

    mai naem mobile

    June 24, 2017 at 6:34 am

    I watched a few minutes of Fox and Friends this AM. Abby Huntsman is the bimbo on Weekend Fox and Friends BTW. They have finally decided that,yes,there was Russian meddling and its all Obama’s fault. OBama was scared and leading from behind and not setting the agenda. Also some Nebraska was caught on tape saying Steve Scalise should have died so all dangerous rhetoric is from.the left. I had to switch channels.

  16. 16.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 24, 2017 at 6:37 am

    Got my backpack all packed(2 cameras, 3 additional lens, Surface Pro, and other stuff), now I’m just waiting for some batteries to charge. In 12 hours it’s off to the desert.

  17. 17.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 24, 2017 at 6:41 am

    @mai naem mobile: I guess they have erased all the old Bill O’Reilly tapes then.

  18. 18.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 24, 2017 at 6:42 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Wouldn’t you?

  19. 19.

    p.a.

    June 24, 2017 at 6:45 am

    @mai naem mobile:

    Also some Nebraska was caught on tape saying Steve Scalise should have died so all dangerous rhetoric is from.the left.

    If you watch so I don’t have to: have they gone back so far as talking points about being mean to Bork and Ditto Thomas?

  20. 20.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 24, 2017 at 6:47 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Nah, if I was FOX I’d be loud and proud of our ranting racist idiot Uncle Bill-O. That’s what gets eyeballs.

    Enjoy your desert retreat.

  21. 21.

    mai naem mobile

    June 24, 2017 at 7:02 am

    @p.a.: I can only handle small doses of Fox unless they’re Fox tears to savor. Only caught a few minutes and it was longer than I normally do because I wasn’t hundred percent sure it was Abby Huntsman. She looked different. Her hair or her eyes. I wonder if Fox viewers know her daddy was an ambassador for the evil leading from behind Obama???

  22. 22.

    efgoldman

    June 24, 2017 at 8:00 am

    Per the Washington Post, “‘Alt-right’ and ‘alt-lite’? Conservatives plan dueling conservative rallies Sunday in D.C.” —

    Yup, tourists and natives need to stay away
    Why, they’ll probably have a crowd of dozens.
    On second thought, go and openly mock the assholes.

  23. 23.

    coozledad

    June 24, 2017 at 8:14 am

    @Morzer: Two little Hitlers will fight it out until…

  24. 24.

    rikyrah

    June 24, 2017 at 8:31 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:
    The desert?
    Be safe

  25. 25.

    Laura

    June 24, 2017 at 9:11 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: I hope you are taking way more water and other liquids than you could possibly need.
    Also, I’d advise against bare-footin’.
    Can’t wait to see what catches your eye.

  26. 26.

    cmorenc

    June 24, 2017 at 9:34 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    I’ve found a few online vendors, now it’s just a matter of picking one and working up the nerve to use my debit card. Probably sometime after the Eid holidays.

    I assume you’ve gone to some music/guitar stores and played around with the potential candidate guitars you are considering. That’s the only reliable way to test two critical things: which guitar(s) in your price range sound best to your ear, and which have the best playability for your fingers. (BTW: this is the procedure strongly suggested by the best acoustic guitar-maker, Martin, but it also applies to lower-end guitars as well). Two good brick-and-mortar chain musical instrument dealers, Sam Ash and Guitar Center, welcome folks to come in and play their guitars, and this is true of any guitar merchant you should consider dealing with.

    A guitar that isn’t pleasing to your ears or doesn’t have good playability according to your hands and tastes is a guitar that will wind up gathering dust in a corner. A guitar that does have those qualities is one you’ll be drawn to playing at every available moment.

  27. 27.

    r€nato

    June 24, 2017 at 10:04 am

    here a cuck, there a cuck, everywhere a cuck cuck…

  28. 28.

    Honus

    June 24, 2017 at 10:10 am

    KKK is coming to Charlottesville on July 8, and then Spencer and his nitwits are scheduled for August 12. The poster says 12pm; not sure if that is a mistake, since they had the midnight tiki torch rally last month and 12 pm is noon. The poster is here:

    splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/06/21/competing-alt-right-free-speech-rallies-reveal-infighting-over-wh…

    The Nazi eagles are a nice touch, but the best thing is that the civil war soldiers are wearing union uniforms, including kepi forage caps. Confederate soldiers typically wore slouch hats. These guys are ardently stupid.

    The Proud Boys have also been filming videos in downtown C’ville. They do some cosplay in an alley where they pretend to mug each other, I guess to show how tough they are. (I couldn’t make myself listen to the sound). As a resident for the past 45 years, I can tell you that the idea that Charlottesville, especially the downtown pedestrian mall, has mean streets is pretty comical.

  29. 29.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 24, 2017 at 10:13 am

    Roger Stone is a mobile sack of dogshit. Self-promoter extraordinaire. Fucking Nazi.

  30. 30.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 24, 2017 at 10:14 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: “Fuck it, we’ll do it live!”

  31. 31.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 24, 2017 at 10:15 am

    @p.a.: Yes. I’ve seen Bork discussed on twitter by “sane” Rethuglicans.

    Wipe them out. All of them.

  32. 32.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 24, 2017 at 10:17 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Yet asshole Berniebot cum alt-right asshole in Portland was an obvious member of a Neo-Nazi gang in Portland and not on the gang watch list because…you guessed it…not blah or mezkin.

  33. 33.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 24, 2017 at 10:19 am

    @JPL: Training them costs money they can’t get because we can’t raise taxes to provide professional services because reasons.

  34. 34.

    sdhays

    June 24, 2017 at 10:22 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: Dogshit is more nutritious…

  35. 35.

    Librarian

    June 24, 2017 at 11:13 am

    The battle of the twits.

  36. 36.

    Paul Begala's Pink Tie

    June 24, 2017 at 11:31 am

    @cmorenc: also, once you purchase a guitar, take it to a luthier to have it setup. He or she will string it, adjust the truss rod & bridge height, etc.

  37. 37.

    Shana

    June 24, 2017 at 1:27 pm

    @efgoldman: The article says the two rallies expect a total of 400 people.

  38. 38.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?

    June 24, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    @Shana: Hardly a huge turnout, like the Women’s Marches from earlier in the year

  39. 39.

    Matt

    June 25, 2017 at 8:52 am

    “Dueling conservative rallies”? Is there a Kickstarter to buy them more ammunition?

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