Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Their boy Ron is an empty plastic cup that will never know pudding.

The National Guard is not Batman.

Dear elected officials: Trump is temporary, dishonor is forever.

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

They think we are photo bombing their nice little lives.

Stamping your little feets and demanding that they see how important you are? Not working anymore.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

The unpunished coup was a training exercise.

Republicans choose power over democracy, every day.

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

75% of people clapping liked the show!

Why is it so hard for them to condemn hate?

I might just take the rest of the day off and do even more nothing than usual.

We know you aren’t a Democrat but since you seem confused let me help you.

We will not go back.

Giving in to doom is how we fail to fight for ourselves & one another.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

Marge, god is saying you’re stupid.

Sometimes the world just tells you your cat is here.

People identifying as christian while ignoring christ and his teachings is a strange thing indeed.

Quote tweet friends, screenshot enemies.

Is trump is trying to break black America over his knee? signs point to ‘yes’.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

He really is that stupid.

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So much going on with the Senate Health Care Bill Tax Cut Bill that I don’t want you all to miss this:

The framed copy of Time Magazine was hung up in at least five of President Trump’s clubs, from South Florida to Scotland. Filling the entire cover was a photo of Donald Trump.

“Donald Trump: The ‘Apprentice’ is a television smash!” the big headline said. Above the Time nameplate, there was another headline in all caps: “TRUMP IS HITTING ON ALL FRONTS . . . EVEN TV!”

This cover — dated March 1, 2009 — looks like an impressive memento from Trump’s pre-presidential career. To club members eating lunch, or golfers waiting for a pro-shop purchase, it seemed to be a signal that Trump had always been a man who mattered. Even when he was just a reality-TV star, Trump was the kind of star who got a cover story in Time.

But that wasn’t true.

The Time cover is a fake.

There was no March 1, 2009, issue of Time Magazine. And there was no issue at all in 2009 that had Trump on the cover.

In fact,the cover on display at Trump’s clubs, observed recently by a reporter visiting one of the properties, contains several small but telling mistakes. Its red border is skinnier than that of a genuine Time cover, and, unlike the real thing, there is no thin white border next to the red. The Trump cover’s secondary headlines are stacked on the right side — on a real Time cover, they would go across the top.

And it has two exclamation points. Time headlines don’t yell.

“I can confirm that this is not a real TIME cover,” Kerri Chyka, a spokeswoman for Time Inc., wrote in an email to The Washington Post.

Time has responded:

This fucking guy.

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  3. 3.

    nightranger

    Nothing surprises me about the douchebag-in-chief anymore.

    I hope someone makes a “Putins Cock Holster” Time cover.

    What is really pissing me off now is the fact the media has normalized his constant half retarded idiotic behaviour. To the point where they just ignore it now and continue to pretend that this guy is actually remotely qualified for the job on some level.

  4. 4.

    SiubhanDuinne

    I love David Fahrenthold’s incisive articles, even when WaPo assigns him stories like this.

    And even something as seemingly trivial as fake TIME Magazine covers contributes to the steady drip-drip-drip.

  6. 6.

    scav

    Amazing how he can continue to shrink and reveal himself as smaller and smaller and smaller (in everything except sense of entitlement and sheer volume of noise emitted).

  7. 7.

    Smiling Mortician

    Also, read the whole thing. The quotes from the employee at the golf club in Scotland are delightful.

  10. 10.

    Jerzy Russian

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Fucker lies about EVERYTHING.

    To be fair, if he said “I lie all of the time” it would not be a lie, although knowing him he would find a way to lie about that too.

  11. 11.

    Boussinesque

    Even the ego-fluffing is all fake…I guess when you don’t have any real accomplishments to feel good about, lying is the way to go. Anyone with a real sense of pride in themselves and their work would find this kind of thing insulting. That he doesn’t speaks volumes (not that it’s telling us anything we don’t already know).

    Or, as JC more eloquently put it, this fucking guy.

  13. 13.

    kindness

    Maybe he has an overly developed ego in order to placate the demons in his head regarding his tiny tiny penis?

  15. 15.

    Mart

    Urban dictionary on this fucking guy, “A statement expressed in a pissed off tone to a person whose action(s) has caused great anger due to his idiotic attempt at gaining attention.”

  16. 16.

    zhena gogolia

    @schrodingers_cat:

    You might have even forgiven the NYT if you’d seen their full-page “Trump’s lies” article in the Sunday Review. I was impressed. Tiny print covering an entire page.

  24. 24.

    Hungry Joe

    In the novel “The Death of Vishnu” (2001), author Manil Suri describes a civil servant in Bombay who lies about everything. Everything. Suri has a hilarious line — wish I had the book in front of me — about how the guy even even lies about what he has brought to the office for lunch, then has to go onto the roof of the building and eat by himself so that he won’t be found out. With people like Trump it’s as if the truth were difficult to enunciate and the lie is just a simple shortcut, a way to save energy. Add sociopathy and narcissism, and you get fake Time covers.

  25. 25.

    Chyron HR

    DONALD: Did you see here, Time Magazine says that I’m a “television smash!”
    RON HOWARD: They had not said that. The magazine cover was the work of “Lil’ Celebs”, a company that printed vanity magazine covers for the parents of young children.

  26. 26.

    Mezz

    So what’s the Twitter hashtag?? (Btw I hate Twitter though I subscribe and loathe every advert. that uses “hashtag” our crappy product. This though seems potentially amusing.)

    But there seems like an amazing amount of Mischief could be had at That Man’s expense by the Internet.

  27. 27.

    Baud

    FTA

    “But it was just a guess. I don’t actually have a Scooby,” the employee added, using an expression that means, “I don’t have a clue.”

    I don’t know where that originated, but I like it.

  29. 29.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    Shocking to think the Chancellor of Trump University would engage is such fraudulent behavior.

  30. 30.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Jerzy Russian:

    To be fair, if he said “I lie all of the time” it would not be a lie, although knowing him he would find a way to lie about that too.

    I was told there would be no logic problems.

  34. 34.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Baud:

    “But it was just a guess. I don’t actually have a Scooby,” the employee added, using an expression that means, “I don’t have a clue.”

    I don’t know where that originated, but I like it.

    Rhyming slang. Scooby-Do=clue. Down the rub=pub. Trouble and strife=wife. Apparently the Scots as well as Cockneys use it.

  35. 35.

    gratuitous

    It’s like staring into a bottomless pit, trying to suss out just how needy a man Donald Trump is. Is he looking for validation? Constant reassurance? Does he cease to exist if the camera isn’t on him under the brightest spotlight?

    I know that if Trump ever comments on these ersatz magazine covers, he’ll try to pass it off as just a joke, wasn’t meant to be taken seriously, the work of an overzealous underling, he didn’t know it was fake, and why is everyone so bent out of shape about it?

  44. 44.

    Gvg

    Apparently he was only on one time cover for real in 1989 until he “went into politics” and the person who actually has been on more time covers by far, is Nixon.
    I have seen at least one article where his office wall was covered by framed magazine covers with him on it and what I noticed was that he had two copies of some issues scattered around to make the wall look more full. I thought it was sort of pathetic. I think the same article pointed out that he had covers and boasted about being on covers where the story was actually very unflattering but he didn’t care. I can’t even understand that.
    If he was actually fooled himself by this fake, he must not have actually have opened the magazine cover.

  45. 45.

    trollhattan

    @gratuitous:

    It’s like staring into a bottomless pit, trying to suss out just how needy a man Donald Trump is. Is he looking for validation? Constant reassurance? Does he cease to exist if the camera isn’t on him under the brightest spotlight?

    Suspect his life peaked in the ’70s, sniffing coke off of supermodel asses at Studio 54 and he’s been trying to achieve that mojo ever since. i.e., peaked forty years ago and knows it despite the general unself-awareness.

  48. 48.

    FlipYrWhig

    @trollhattan: I was watching that ESPN thing about the Celtics-Lakers rivalry and it struck me that Trump for most of his life was trying very hard to emulate “Dr.” Jerry Buss, aging-but-not-prepared-to-admit-it real estate playboy.

  50. 50.

    Aleta

    Trump’s lucky to be living in this internet age. Now that it knows he craves magazine covers, he’ll be showered with them.

  56. 56.

    trollhattan

    @FlipYrWhig:
    Now that’s good stuff.
    Trump: “You there, sports superstar, you want to be near me and absorb and benefit from my golden glow.”
    Sports star: “Jesus, I’m so glad you don’t own this team, or any team, so I don’t have to hang with you. [aloud] Uh, I got a flight.”

  58. 58.

    Aleta

    The cover reminds me of those baseball cards of a kid in a Little League outfit holding a bat, with Major League batting statistics printed on the side. Living the fantasy.

  59. 59.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Shakespearean in his ineptitude, self-importance, and hubris.

    Yes, or Greek drama.

    Operatic, for sure (as I’ve mused previously).

    *******

    Speaking of opera, if you can, do try to see the Met Opera encore presentation of Verdi’s Macbeth tomorrow evening. Should begin at 7:00 p.m. your local time, but check https://www.fathomevents.com for theatres/times near you.

    I saw this production a couple of seasons ago in a live Saturday matinee. It is just an incredible performance, especially Anna Netrebko as Lady Macbeth. Well worth a couple of hours of your time and $12-15 bucks/ticket, depending on where you live. I’m going with friends and very much looking forward to seeing it again.

  63. 63.

    nightranger

    It’s amazing to me that there are so many people out there that are still apparently taken in by all his fakery and constant BS. Even after all this time and all the proven lies and contradictions.

    The RNC should be selling their Trump supporter database to car salesmen and get rich quick scam artists. A match made in heaven.

  64. 64.

    efgoldman

    @Boussinesque:

    I guess when you don’t have any real accomplishments to feel good about, lying is the way to go.

    Oh, he has an accomplishment: He hasn’t pissed away all of Fred’s money.

    Yet.

  66. 66.

    efgoldman

    @The Dangerman:

    His Presidential Library is going to be “interesting”, no doubt.

    Given his well-earned reputation, he might have trouble hiring contractors to build it. They’ll demand ca$h up front, he won’t pay it.

  68. 68.

    The Dangerman

    @nightranger:

    Even after all this time and all the proven lies and contradictions.

    AKA Fox News viewers, if they watch anything at all. I used to watch Hannity a little bit, just to see what thee other side was thinking, but he’s become unhinged and unwatchable. They have all chugged the kool-aid.

  69. 69.

    Patricia Kayden

    @ruemara: Which means that Trump would do it. His degree of pettiness is HUGE.

    @nightranger: Trump is racist so he’ll always have a base among the millions of racists in this country. It’s only when his foolishness actually hurts them that they may start to sing a different song.

  70. 70.

    Gin & Tonic

    @nightranger: Well, I said routing, not router. But, ok, router. Like this. Or this. But you, Mr. Internet Expert, are surely aware of that due to your decades of BGP traffic engineering experience.

  71. 71.

    debbie

    @eclare:

    Colbert just came back from Russia. He plans on a whole week’s worth of stuff about Russia. I hope Putin’s getting a bit nervous.

  75. 75.

    different-church-lady

    In my fantasy future, people 100 years from see clips of Trump as president and automatically assume they’re fake. And someone has to explain to them, “No, that actually DID happen, hard as it is to believe.”

  76. 76.

    Thoughtful David

    Saw a pic of the meeting after the deathcare vote was delayed that they had between senators and Trump at the White House. Heller, Collins, and Murkowski flanking the shitgibbon. I sure hope their Democratic opponents grabbed copies of the photo. Whether deathcare passes or not, a candidate could run the photo and say “Here’s Senator Collins discussing with Trump how to gut your health insurance and bankrupt you.”

    Along those lines, does anybody have a good photo of Ed Gillespie (R-Crazy Eyes), wingnut for governor in VA, at a Trump rally? I have one with a big Trump sign right behind him, but it’s poor quality.

  77. 77.

    Ben from Virginia

    @nightranger:

    What does it say about the Democrats that they were unable to stop him?
    Great piece
     from Jacobin that has some answers–based on a new book about the Podesta Emails and Goldman Sachs speeches.

    People saw Hillary as an out of touch elitist in hock to hedge funds and financial interests, while Trump campaigned as “one of you”.

    Is it really a surprise he swept the Rust Belt?

    Shouting “RACISTS!” instead might make you feel better, but it’s a one-way ticket to a Trump second term.

  80. 80.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @smedley the uncertain:

    Yeah, saw a big article about that a day or two ago. It sounds utterly pathetic.

    But admit, do, that Ham is perfect to head up everything about the Trump Library and Archives.

    (Excuse me, just need to go throw up a little after typing those last four words.)

  81. 81.

    Ben from Virginia

    @Thoughtful David:

    How’d running on nothing but TRUMP SUCKS! work for Hillary? We need a positive message that moves beyond “Anti-Trump + identity politics” while getting into bed with Wall Street and Silicon Valley.

  82. 82.

    JMG

    TV is never going to say Trump is the hateful clown act he is. It can’t. TV news audience is almost totally crabby old white people frightened and angry they’re gonna die soon. Telling them their last act was to be morons is too much. Jeff Zucker of CNN would rather be executed for treason than tell his audience they’re stupid, nasty marks and that the reason their grandchildren don’t call is because they know their grandparents suck.

  85. 85.

    Ben from Virginia

    @JMG:

    You know, back in the ’80s and ’90s Seniors were the most pro-Democratic demographic….just a reminder!

  91. 91.

    Ben from Virginia

    @Chyron HR:

    This is the kind of stuff I’m talking about when I say identity politics (specifically, what’s wrong with its present-day iteration).

  92. 92.

    DesertFriar

    @Jerzy Russian:

    To be fair, if he said “I lie all of the time” it would not be a lie, although knowing him he would find a way to lie about that too.

    The interesting thing with this is that if Trump did say “I lie all the time” that statement would be a lie. But everything he says still could be 100% false.

  93. 93.

    SatanicPanic

    @Ben from Virginia: why do you waste your time? No one’s going to listen to you when you lecture people about how they should stop caring about their identity to appease some white people.

  97. 97.

    Ben from Virginia

    @different-church-lady:

    The results of this election were due to a failure of the Democratic Party and its candidate on multiple levels–including liberals within said party being more interested in indulging their own self-satisfied narcissism for over a decade rather than try to understand and win over WWC voters.

  99. 99.

    Ruckus

    @Gvg:

    he must not have actually have opened the magazine cover.

    If he opened it, he’d have to read it to even be exposed to the article and then he’d have to understand it. He saw the cover, he’s one for four. For drumpf that’s a pretty high score. Except he probably has someone whose job it is, to find any magazines with his picture on the cover. So I’m betting

    zero for four.

  100. 100.

    Ben from Virginia

    @Thoughtful David:

    “She won”

    Wow, denial much? Who is POTUS right now?

    The Dems have been wiped out to such a degree over the last eight years that the GOP is a few statehouses a way from being able to pass constitutional amendments. Just let that sink in.

  106. 106.

    SatanicPanic

    @Ben from Virginia:

    The Dems have been wiped out to such a degree over the last eight years that the GOP is a few statehouses a way from being able to pass constitutional amendments. Just let that sink in.

    This is highly unlikely. They’re barely able to get anything done in Congress, but they’re going to start passing Constitutional Amendments that require 2/3rds of states’ approval? Right. There’s a reason there’s only been 27 in 240 years. This might scare some ignorant leftists, but it’s not going to be very effective elsewhere.

  107. 107.

    different-church-lady

    @Ben from Virginia: And, apparently, what they failed to do is sufficiently compete in the race for leveraging the WWC’s worse instincts.

    The only fucking way to “win over” these voters is to pander to their fears more than the competition. In which case the GOP will continue to win, because they will always be more convincing at that.

    They knew he was a bullshitter. They knew he was a sexual molester. They knew he wouldn’t bring them jobs. AND THEY STILL VOTED FOR HIM.

    Just what are the actual fuckin’ mechanics of this “understanding?” Show your work.

  108. 108.

    a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)

    @Ben from Virginia: And most of them are now dead, as that was 25 years ago and more. We understand demographic shift here. Do you?

    Try harder, little concern troll. Or maybe we’ll all just have pie instead.

  110. 110.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    Dude, Democrats have been trying to help white workers for, literally, more than 100 years. I don’t know what more Democrats can do for them. Five day workweeks? An end to hiring children? Social Security? Medicare? Lily Ledbetter? About 673,980 other things I can’t even think of offhand? All thanks to Democrats. Seriously, there is one party that has worked its ass off for years to help white workers, and over the last 30 years or so, white workers have rewarded this party–the Democratic Party, by the by, if you’re having trouble working out which one I’m talking about–by dumping their asses from power every other chance they’ve had. It seems to me that sooner or later, it should be up to white workers to take yes for an answer. I don’t know what else Democrats could do, other than fuck over Black people or something. But that isn’t happening. And if that’s what it takes to get white workers to vote for Democrats, then Democrats are going to ahave to keep on keeping on doing whatever they can for white workers without any thanks from them. Luckily for white workers, there is a party that assiduously looks out for their interests, even if they don’t have the sense to look out for their own interests.

  111. 111.

    Ben from Virginia

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    Bill Clinton had zero problems winning enough white voters to win the Rustbelt convincingly. Obama did it narrowly, but still enough to carry the Upper Midwest so easily it was referred to as a “Blue Wall”.

    As recently as 2000 Al Gore won the “coal country” of West Virginia and eastern Kentucky convincingly! He and John Jerry won Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

    Michael Dukakis actually won West Virginia, Iowa, and was more competitive in Ohio than Hillary Clinton was this year.

    White people who voted for Obama twice all of a sudden became Klansmen after 2012? Is that what you’re trying to say?

  112. 112.

    Roger Moore

    Public Service Announcement:

    Do not feed the motherfucking troll! This blog should not devolve into an endless discussion of pie.

    End Public Service Announcement

  115. 115.

    Ruckus

    @Gin & Tonic:
    Maybe it’s just the normal level of trolls. Dumb as a box of rocks, racist as David Duke, physically over 18 so they can vote……….What’s not to like?

  116. 116.

    Mom Says I'm Handsome

    Am I the first to identify the post title from Ween? FRIST!

    Also, fuck the troll.

  117. 117.

    different-church-lady

    @Ben from Virginia:

    As recently as 2000 Al Gore won the “coal country” of West Virginia and eastern Kentucky convincingly!

    I, for one, really enjoyed his Presidency.

  118. 118.

    Ben from Virginia

    Why don’t you actually read the words of Obama-Obama-Trump voters rather than screaming WAAH THEY’RE ALL RACIST!

    Greenberg’s study of Macomb became a canonical text for Democrats attempting to recover from a decade of pummeling. Bill Clinton hired him in 1992, and in his presidential campaign he spoke directly to the racial anxieties revealed in the focus groups. Clinton distanced himself from the welfare state, which he damned as bloated and inefficient. He promised to pour money into the middle class itself, through tax cuts and spending on education and health care. “Let’s forget about race and be one nation again,” he told an audience in Macomb. “I’ll help you build the middle class back.”

    The strategy that Bill Clinton pursued worked, eroding the Republican advantage in the county. Then Barack Obama won Macomb in 2008, the first of his two victories there. Greenberg declared that Macomb had become “normal and uninteresting.” In a New York Times op-ed, he vowed to walk away from his great subject: “Good riddance, my Macomb barometer.”

    That was a wishful farewell. Not only did Trump reclaim Macomb for the Republicans—trouncing Clinton by 12 percentage points there—but he turned the Democratic establishment back to Greenberg’s central question about working-class whites: Did racism put many of them beyond reach? When Greenberg traveled to Michigan in February, to conduct his first focus groups in Macomb in nearly a decade, he was genuinely unsure of what he might find. Trump’s naked appeals to racism were far more intense than anything he had ever witnessed. The scenes from Trump’s rallies created a plausible impression that the president had activated long-suppressed feelings of hatred. To probe their disaffection, Greenberg pulled together voters who, for the most part, had defected from Obama to Trump, who had gone from voting for the first African American president to siding with his racist successor. I joined him as an observer.

    Go read the whole thing.

  123. 123.

    Ruckus

    @Roger Moore:
    If everyone pied them, they’d have no responses and at some point they’d leave. Even as dumb as they are, after a while no responses would have some level of recognition of their uselessness.

  124. 124.

    Ben from Virginia

    @different-church-lady:

    Wow that was a fast read! Who needs to read the words of swing voters when you can just write them off as a bunch of cross-burning wahoos who will never be so enlightened as you are.

  126. 126.

    different-church-lady

    @Ben from Virginia: An Obama-Obama-Trump voter is politically incoherent. There is no other way to put it.

    Please explain how to get through to someone politically incoherent without leaving reality behind.

  127. 127.

    Ben from Virginia

    @different-church-lady:

    RTFA I linked!

    This lack of empathy from some people on the left towards Midwestern, WWC voters is one big reason why we keep getting our asses kicked.

  129. 129.

    Citizen_X

    @different-church-lady: And that of Michael Dukakis!

    Oh, and I distinctly remember the same arguments in 2000, that Gore was a corporate sellout, but now he’s apparently a hero of the (white) working class. I wonder what could be so different about Obama and Hillary?

  132. 132.

    different-church-lady

    @Ben from Virginia: How does this “empathy” manifest itself. Show your work.

    I suspect thou doth protest too much when it comes to “identity politics”. Perhaps it’s only the identity you find troublesome?

  133. 133.

    Ben from Virginia

    @Citizen_X:

    Why don’t you look at the counties Gore won vs. those Hillary won to start?

    You’ll notice I said Obama did not have a problem winning a good chunk of the WWC (especially if you exclude coal country which probably can’t be won back much because of GW.)

  136. 136.

    Ben from Virginia

    @different-church-lady:

    Since you won’t RTFA…

    The focus groups were designed to probe for weakness in Trumpism, to test lines of attack that might neutralize his appeal. Once Greenberg has earned a room’s trust, he introduces new ideas to it. His moderator asked the subjects whether it worried them that Trump had stocked his administration with Wall Street chieftains. That piece of news, it seemed, hadn’t traveled widely in Macomb, and it consistently rattled the groups. “It’s going to be a lot of the same old garbage,” one man groused. Concerns about Trump’s temperament did nothing to dislodge the participants’ support—the connection these voters felt with Trump was personal and deep<—but the fact that he might align with traditional Republicans annoyed them to no end. (The groups reacted angrily when shown photos of Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. People described them as “shifty” and “for the upper class.”) What many Macomb voters value about Trump is that he represents an unaligned force in American politics. That’s the very quality that in earlier election cycles led them to Obama.

    Emphasis mine.

  138. 138.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @different-church-lady: Let’s say the WWC voters aren’t primarily motivated by racism/sexism. They sure as hell weren’t turned off by it either. They were willing to accept it as part of the package they were voting for.

  139. 139.

    divF

    Hey, the pie filter works !

    ETA: Now let’s see how well it works on driving the troll away.
    ETA2: This is a little like the old Unix “fortune” program.

  144. 144.

    Ben from Virginia

    @different-church-lady:

    No, try again.

    Let me spell it out for you: stop attacking Trump’s temperment and start attacking him just like how Obama attacked Mitt Romney–out-of-touch establishment Republican plutocrat who wants to screw you over, tied at the hip to Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and Wall Street.

    I humbly submit that it may be slightly more effective than shouting RACIST! at WWC swing voters.

  145. 145.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?

    @Ben from Virginia: Unless a lot of those people die.

    Edit: Also, can you please fuck off? And why can’t we attack his temperament AND tie him to asswipes like Mitch the Snitch and Blue Eyes?

  150. 150.

    Ben from Virginia

    @different-church-lady:

    Who needs to understand the results of a focus group with said voters when you can just indulge in more liberal smugness, assured of your OWN very high moral superiority to all of those people in nasty places like the Detroit suburbs.

    Ironically the contempt certain people show here towards the WWC really isn’t all that different from the sneering contempt conservatives show towards African-Americans.

  151. 151.

    TenguPhule

    @ruemara:

    This is the dumbest thing a grown assed wealthy man could possibly have faked.

    You just had to fucking say that.

    Trump: “Hold my fucking beer!”

  153. 153.

    Boussinesque

    @Iowa Old Lady: No fear, it’s a class I’m taking. Big Data: Overview, Tools, and Use Cases. Giving our final group presentations in an hour or so. Class has been a bit of a disorganized mess, due to the professor missing 3 sessions for travel/family emergencies. Also hasn’t been so great about getting actual feedback on our work into our hands in time to actually make use of it. Interesting, despite the flaws, but not a class I’d recommend to anyone else, at least in the present incarnation.

  157. 157.

    Mnemosyne

    @Ben from Virginia:

    Actually, schnookums, the article doesn’t say what you claim it does. I know, we’re all shocked.

    Here’s a pull quote:

    To win the Democratic presidential nomination, it helps to secure the African American vote. But another path to victory involves rallying white voters with a populist bent. This can create an uncomfortable dynamic in presidential primaries, where race vies with class to become the defining concern of the party. Politicians rarely vocalize the tension. But the socialism of Bernie Sanders—which hindered his efforts to explain the centrality of race to American life—made this split less subterranean than usual.

    Bernie made white voters aware that he was the Great White Hope, and that voting for him meant those voters had to reject women and minorities as allies.

    That’s why they voted for Trump — because Bernie energized them into thinking of themselves primarily as white voters. So when Bernie’s candidacy flamed out, they chose the candidate that most resembled Bernie: Donald Trump.

  158. 158.

    different-church-lady

    @Ben from Virginia: I do believe the problem you’re having here is one of identity politics: you feel the need to defend the WWC from “attacks” even in the face of their own political hypocrisy.

    Please explain the following: people who don’t want a “out-of-touch establishment Republican plutocrat who wants to screw you over” voted for a billionaire who vowed to take away their health care protections and bragged about not paying taxes.

    But clearly a bunch of nobodies on the internet correctly observing that racism was a huge motivating factor is much more the problem. Yes. Indeed.

  159. 159.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?

    @Ben from Virginia: Its kinda hard to NOT show contempt for idiots who fell for Donald fucking Trump and Russian propaganda. They’re ultimately responsible for the people he kills with his policies and actions as presidency, whether they want to acknowledge that or not.

  162. 162.

    Seth Owen

    @Ben from Virginia: Are you saying they AREN’T morons and racists?

    I admit it might not be politic to point it out too much, but really, they are, for the most part, demonstrably stupid and bigoted. I will also note that they were outvoted by 10 million votes.

    I’m not sure how we go about converting stupid, bigoted people. A populist economic message may help a bit, at least with the bigots, who sometimes choose to vote their economic interests, (“Tell ’em we’re voting for the n****r”) but I’m not sure about the stupid ones.

  163. 163.

    TenguPhule

    @different-church-lady:

    In my fantasy future, people 100 years from see clips of Trump as president and automatically assume they’re fake.

    In my fantasy future, all pictures and recordings of Trump and his family have been officially destroyed and any attempt to correct that state of affairs is punishable by Death. There were never any Trumps and we have a lack of bodies to prove it!

  164. 164.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?

    @Mnemosyne:

    That’s why they voted for Trump — because Bernie energized them into thinking of themselves primarily as white voters

    And that really disgusts me, now that you bring it up. I mean how pathetic does a person have to be to make their race/ethnicity so central to their identity? That’s what creeps me out the most about the alt-right

  166. 166.

    Mnemosyne

    @Ben from Virginia:

    People in the Detroit suburbs told one of my friends to his face that they were voting for Trump because they hated Black Lives Matter. They said it in those words.

    But, no, they’re not racists. I’m sure they have totally non-racist reasons for hating Black Lives Matter.

  168. 168.

    Ben from Virginia

    @different-church-lady:

    He didn’t vow to take their healthcare away. He said he’d “cover everybody”. Now that he’s very clearly breaking that promise, what are you going to do? Point it out to them? Or just shout that they’re dumbass racists in Wahooville who we don’t need, and even if we do, much better to lose and keep our purity intact than go down in the mud to talk to THOSE PEOPLE. Right?

  169. 169.

    Boussinesque

    @Iowa Old Lady: Our weeks of preparation for this presentation were met with “before we get into the presentations, let me go over what I’m expecting, structure wise…” when we walked in the door today. My mental response was “Well, that information would have been useful to have waaaaay back at the beginning, so you’re getting what you’re getting. Not my problem anymore.”

  172. 172.

    Ben from Virginia

    @? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?:

    I mean how pathetic does a person have to be to make their race/ethnicity so central to their identity?

    This is different from much of the identity politics/SJW left how, exactly? They constantly make race/ethnicity the center of their worldview.

  176. 176.

    Ben from Virginia

    @Mnemosyne:
    But, no, they’re not racists. I’m sure they have totally non-racist reasons for hating Black Lives Matter.

    If you don’t, you’re incredibly out of touch. There are factions of BLM which are both utterly contemptible and electoral poison.

  177. 177.

    TenguPhule

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    don’t know what else Democrats could do, other than fuck over Black people or something.

    Obviously its time to take a page from the Republican playbook and punish white Republicans for the crime of being Republicans.

    White can be the new black when it comes to being abused by police and the law.

    A couple decades of that treatment and the white vote will be forever ours.

  178. 178.

    different-church-lady

    @Ben from Virginia: I take it your logic is that because the Democratic Party addresses the concerns of minorities that means by definition they’re excluding the concerns of the majority?

    You’ve used the word “narcissism” repeatedly. Please explain how addressing the concerns of minorities amounts to narcissism.

  181. 181.

    TenguPhule

    @different-church-lady: I can’t think of a better punishment then to erase Trump from history. He lives for attention. I want him to become a fucking forgotten ghost.

    If you can top that, please feel free.

  182. 182.

    Ben from Virginia

    I’ll just end by pointing out that making the Republicans the White Party and Democrats the POC Party is exactly what what white supremacists want.

    When you have someone running for DNC Chair who says her job is to have white people “shut up”, you’re doing Steve Sailer’s work for him. They’d love nothing better than to see all white people run out of the Democratic Party. That’s their fucking wet dream because it would mean they’ll be in power for the next seventy years.

  183. 183.

    efgoldman

    @Ben from Virginia:

    How’d running on nothing but TRUMP SUCKS! work for Hillary?

    How’s posting on nothing but slagging HRC working for you, troll?

    Nine months since the fucking election, and assholes like you have nothing else to post about?

  185. 185.

    different-church-lady

    @? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?:

    I mean how pathetic does a person have to be to make their race/ethnicity so central to their identity?

    Well, that rather depends on the race/ethnicity, doesn’t it? I mean, if every freakin’ moment of the day you’re made to feel “other” due to your race, it kind of inevitable it’s going to become pretty central to your identity.

    Try spending a few months alone in country where you don’t speak the language and being an Anglophone is going to become pretty central to your identity. (ETA: but until then you probably never put much thought into it.)

    It ain’t the race that’s the problem in this situation: it’s the “other-ing”.

  186. 186.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?

    @Ben from Virginia: That’s a mighty broad brush, there. I was just commenting on white supremacist losers; you know our real enemies? Talking about institutional racism and other such issues is not the same as using your skin color as some kind of emotional prop

  188. 188.

    Mnemosyne

    @Ben from Virginia:

    This is different from much of the identity politics/SJW left how, exactly? They constantly make race/ethnicity the center of their worldview.

    Yes, I can’t imagine why the population that is constantly being harassed, discriminated against, and even killed because of their race makes such a big deal about race. It’s such a mystery! You don’t see color! Why is everyone getting pissed at you because you only hire white people? You don’t see race!

    By the way: you’re a fucking racist. No wonder you have nothing but empathy for the rich white assholes who voted for Trump but couldn’t care less about a black kid getting shot dead by the cops.

  189. 189.

    Roger Moore

    @Ruckus:

    If everyone pied them, they’d have no responses and at some point they’d leave.

    And until people stop feeding the troll, the blog gets very annoying to those of us who do. I don’t want to read posts where half the discussion is about pie.

  190. 190.

    Boussinesque

    @TenguPhule: any world where teenagers have full command of reality-warping critters with hideously destructive powers is not one I want to hang out in for any length of time, lest reality reassert itself wrt human behavior.

  191. 191.

    TenguPhule

    @Ben from Virginia:

    I’ll just end by pointing out that making the Republicans the White Party and Democrats the POC Party is exactly what what white supremacists want.

    Makes the battle lines a lot easier, certainly. Much easier to figure out which whites are good when they’re the only ones you personally recognize.

  192. 192.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?

    @different-church-lady: I get what you’re saying. Was talking more about crybabies who have a persecution complex; usually those apart of a majority who still feel persecuted. They use their race as a way to feel better about themselves

  194. 194.

    TenguPhule

    @Boussinesque:

    any world where teenagers have full command of reality-warping critters with hideously destructive powers is not one I want to hang out in for any length of time, lest reality reassert itself wrt human behavior.

    Instead we are in a reality where creepy old men with command over hideously destructive weapons are asserting the worst of human behavior.

    At this point, the teenagers don’t look so bad from here.

  199. 199.

    Ben from Virginia

    @TenguPhule:

    I hope you enjoy living in either a dictatorship or 1990s Yugoslavia, then, because those are the two end games for the explicit racialization of politics in multiethnic countries. Once we get the White Party, Black Party, Hispanic Party etc. that’s game over for the US as a unified, democratic-state in the long-term.

  200. 200.

    different-church-lady

    @Baud: Damn, dude, it’s like you no appreciation for the entertaining beauty of the Socratic Method.

  202. 202.

    Ben from Virginia

    Let’s have explicitly ethnic political parties, because it worked so well for Austria-Hungary and Yugoslavia! What could go wrong?

    JFC….

  203. 203.

    Mnemosyne

    @Ben from Virginia:

    Here’s the thing, Bechamel:

    If white Americans weren’t racist, Sailer’s tactics wouldn’t work. They only work because white Americans are racist and don’t want to have to grow up and realize that they’re racists who need to accept that other people have a right to live.

    Sailer’s tactics only work if you accept his frame. For those of us smart enough to realize he’s a stupid asshole, his framing doesn’t work.

    If the problem with this country is white people, then we need to fix white people. Trying to get everyone else to cater to them even more will work about as well as enabling your drunk daddy did. He didn’t stop beating your mom just because she said it was all her fault, and the solution wasn’t for her to be even more submissive to the abuse.

  205. 205.

    Boussinesque

    @TenguPhule: that’s fair. On the other hand, I do substitute teaching for K-8 occasionally, so I have a little more direct experience feeding my skepticism re: the behavior of kids.

  206. 206.

    TenguPhule

    @Ben from Virginia:

    that’s game over for the US as a unified, democratic-state in the long-term.

    Obviously you haven’t been paying attention to Nov 8, 2000 or 2016. That ship has long since sailed, my friend.

    Now you just get to decide which side you’re really on.

  209. 209.

    jl

    @? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?:

    ” using your skin color as some kind of emotional prop ”

    White genocide snowflakes and Trumpsters come to mind with that phrase.
    My personal gut reaction is that sometimes people like Roland Martin come close to sounding like that, if taken out of context.

    But a big difference is that there are real race/ethnic specific policy issues underlying a lot of racial/ethnic minority commentary.
    I don’t see one for whites. Sure, middle and working class whites have gotten hammered with growing wealth and income inequality, macro and trade policy that that targets workers, and the effect of crony capitalist and monopoly rent capitalism that seems to run the country recently. But those issues are not specific to them. Everyone below ‘millionaire’ has been hurt by them.

  211. 211.

    TenguPhule

    @Boussinesque: I still remember how much teenagers can be dicks and assholes, I experienced it enough myself.

    Still better then Trump as ruler of the most deadly military force on earth.

  212. 212.

    Ben from Virginia

    And don’t think in a country with explicitly race-based politics that a coalition between African-Americans, Hispanics, and Asians is going to last very long, either–after they got rid of the Habsburgs, the Czech nationalists, Hungarian nationalists,
    Yugoslav nationalists and Romanian nationalists didn’t have much time for one another anymore–bellum omnium contra omnes.

  213. 213.

    Mnemosyne

    @Ben from Virginia:

    Once we get the White Party, Black Party, Hispanic Party etc. that’s game over for the US as a unified, democratic-state in the long-term.

    Of course, there’s zero chance of that happening, because non-whites are sticking together. It’s only white people who are insisting that they have their own parties and that any non-whites in charge be driven out. Did you think non-white Democrats were blind as to why Donna Brazile became the focus of white male rage?

    White people aren’t going to join the Democrats because they prefer to identify as white people and join the White People’s Party. They will not join the Democrats until the non-whites are driven out of it.

  217. 217.

    TenguPhule

    @Ben from Virginia:

    And don’t think in a country with explicitly race-based politics that a coalition between African-Americans, Hispanics, and Asians is going to last very long,

    Why? We have a common enemy we can all focus on. That kind of thing can keep us going for as long as it takes.

  218. 218.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?

    @Ben from Virginia: Who the fuck is suggesting this? The GOP is the White People’s party already. The Democrats are a big tent party that includes many ethnicities, including whites. We’re for competent, evidence-based policies that work for everyone. We’re against the oligarch’s taking advantage of the system. You talk complete nonsense

  219. 219.

    Ben from Virginia

    @Mnemosyne:

    Just like the Yugoslavs stuck together after they ousted the Austrians! Once you let the ethnonationalist genie out of the bottle there’s no putting him back in.

  227. 227.

    Ben from Virginia

    @TenguPhule:

    It took literally thirty days for the Croat and Hungarian nationalists to start fighting a literal, all-out war against each other in 1848 as soon as they got out from under control of the Austrians.

  231. 231.

    Mnemosyne

    @Ben from Virginia:

    You may want to read up on American history — the history of the United States — if you’re suddenly shocked to discover that white people all flock to the political party that explicitly sells itself as the whites-only party.

  233. 233.

    TenguPhule

    @Ben from Virginia: Asians, Hispanics and Blacks in America don’t have the baggage against each other that the nationalists you keep referring to did. Would you like to try a little harder to make a coherent argument?

  239. 239.

    Ben from Virginia

    @TenguPhule:

    Also, I too remember when Koreans joined the blacks of South Central LA in a show of solidarity in 1992, joining against the white–oh wait that never fucking happened, Korean shop owners started shooting black rioters as soon as the cops lost control. Nevermind.

  240. 240.

    Mike J

    Hey M^4, next time you’re futzing with the pie script, can you add a counter? I’d love to see a line below the filter ui that says something like, “You’ve pied 112 out of 231 comments on this thread.”

  241. 241.

    Mnemosyne

    @Ben from Virginia:

    Again, perhaps you should spend a few minutes reading up on American history. Start with Andrew Jackson and work your way forward. I think you’re in for a bit of a shock, to say the least.

  242. 242.

    Ben from Virginia

    @TenguPhule:
    Asians, Hispanics and Blacks in America don’t have the baggage against each other that the nationalists you keep referring to did.

    Yeah George Zimmerman didn’t have any baggage against blacks. ROFL!

    Also nothing says “solidarity” like the relationship between Asian-American convenience store owners in the inner city and their African-American cousins.

    As I said, let the ethnonationalist genie out of the bottle in a multi-ethnic and it ends in three ways (1) dictatorship (2) civil war (sometimes with the added “bonus” of genocide) (3) partition.

  243. 243.

    TenguPhule

    @Ben from Virginia:

    Korean shop owners started shooting black rioters as soon as the cops lost control.

    I’m sure at some point you’ll eventually figure out why.

  244. 244.

    jl

    Most people vote on issues that they feel are important to them personally.
    The vast majority of African-American voters switched to Democrat after the Republicans decided to use the Southern Strategy and race as a wedge issue. If by some strange turn of history, the policy stance of the parties switched, I think the vast majority of African-American voters would switch back.

    A minority, and one growing ever smaller, of white bigots considers race ethnicity and national origin, and religion, per se, important enough to join a party or a movement based mostly on those issues. They make a hell of a lot of noise though. The only real racial identity politics today is practiced by an ever dwindling number of white bigots.

    My personal opinion is that Hillary Clinton reluctance to go really aggressive on specific policy issues hurt her with minority voters in 2016. Any racial identity politics she practiced, which compared to the Trumpsters and GOP uses, was pretty weak tea, did not help her make a big turnout with those groups (though hard to say given the increase in voter suppression used against minorities, which is another real policy issue as opposed to identity politics)

  246. 246.

    TenguPhule

    @Ben from Virginia:

    Yeah George Zimmerman didn’t have any baggage against blacks. ROFL!

    Honorary White Republicans are a time honored tradition of the party. They have token blacks too.

  248. 248.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?

    @jl: I understand. Racism isn’t only limited to White Americans

  249. 249.

    Mnemosyne

    @Ben from Virginia:

    Man, there’s nothing I love more than a guy who was in diapers in 1992 trying to tell me what really happened, because I can’t trust my lying eyes.

  253. 253.

    jl

    @? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?:

    ” I understand. Racism isn’t only limited to White Americans ”

    that wasn’t my point. I was trying to amplify what I thought was your point. See my subsequent comment, which explains in more detail.

    Edit: to be specific, Roland Martin ‘sounding like that, if taken out of context’, doesn’t mean that he really is devoted to racial identity politics. I’m not a big Roland Martin fan, and I disagree with how he frames many issues, but I don’t think he is practicing racial identity politics.

  255. 255.

    Mnemosyne

    @debbie:

    Well, I do have to go grocery shopping, so I’m on my way out. I’m just amused that the WATB ran from me earlier today.

  257. 257.

    Ben from Virginia

    @different-church-lady:

    The Ottoman Empire was a multiethnic empire that was explicitly NOT based on nationality. You don’t get the Armenian genocide without the Turks deciding that from now on it was going to be a Turkish polity.

  258. 258.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?

    @TenguPhule: My parents, otherwise normal Democrats, love those videos where black people confirm their biases about those baggy pants and showing respect. Those Uncle Toms only do it for the attention of being contrarian

  260. 260.

    Baud

    Hey, Major. Can you create a script that creates a new auto open thread based on time/number of comments?

  261. 261.

    SatanicPanic

    Turns out the white guy from WV urging us to give up identity politics is racist. I’m SO shocked

  262. 262.

    Underpaid Propagandist

    Y’all just allowed “Ben from Virginia” to kidneystone your thread.

  263. 263.

    zhena gogolia

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Last night he equated those of us concerned about Russian interference with our election with the people who created the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion.” Great stuff.

  265. 265.

    Ben from Virginia

    On Nov. 8, hundreds of black and Latino students got into two separate battles in the streets around Wilmer Amina Carter High School in Rialto. Two days later, another interracial fight broke out on campus, and four days after that a huge battle erupted in the lunchroom, leaving 57 of the hundreds of students involved injured. At around the same time, more than 20 police officers broke up a series of street fights between black and Latino students outside Fremont High School in Oakland that involved as many as 150 participants and bystanders. In San Jacinto, a riot at San Jacinto High School between black and Hispanic students resulted in three arrests, six suspensions and the lockdown of 1,700 students. Some 500 students were involved in the fight, and police reported some arriving parents added fuel to the fire by shouting racial slurs and urging their children to keep up the battle. Similar racial conflicts hit Crenshaw, Manual Arts and Jordan high schools in Los Angeles.

    But clearly, we need MOAR ETHNONATIONALISM!

  267. 267.

    NeenerNeener

    @chris: Yeah, I’m seeing similar issues in whatever Apple OS I’m using right now, in Firefox. B from V doesn’t always share his fascinating insights about pie, sometimes he shares his views about Democrats.

  269. 269.

    Mnemosyne

    @Ben from Virginia:

    And you don’t get a Roseville without white Americans deciding they want an exclusively white polity.

    Oh, but we were supposed to be coming up with examples where white Americans are the victims, not the perpetrators. My bad.

  272. 272.

    Feathers

    When I saw this my first thought was that Trumpus probably didn’t “lie” and create the cover himself. He was probably throwing a shitstorm of a tantrum so somebody told him “Hey, calm down, you’re on the cover of Time magazine!” “Really?” says baby-man and calms right down, “Are YOU on the cover of fucking Time magazine, are you loser?” He struts around the room while the person who thought up the idea runs to get somebody to photoshop up a Time cover and get a framed copy to them – stat!

    Does anybody think this went down any other way?

    Actually, I can see another scenario. Somebody is giving Trump some news he doesn’t want to hear so he just starts rambling about how he’s on the cover of Time magazine this week. “They sent me a framed cover, didn’t they?” Motions to underling who runs to call props to get a framed cover fast.

    It’s turtles all the way down. And the turtles are lies.

  273. 273.

    jl

    The vast majority of high school student grow up. A few don’t.
    Just a truism I thought would be of interest to the BJ commentariate.

  274. 274.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?

    @jl: Oh, sorry, mistook your comment for someone else’s. My point was about the Trumpets using their whiteness as some kind of crutch to make themselves feel better. Having someone else to blame (black people stealing “their” women and some such) instead of blaming themselves or rich Republican billionaires for fucking them over

  281. 281.

    Ruckus

    @Roger Moore:
    I get that, I really do. But my blood pressure and the concept of having a real stroke (tried on a mini one, didn’t particularly like it) makes me think pie is a better alternative. YMMV.

  287. 287.

    TriassicSands

    Very late arriving…

    I think Trump should be allowed to continue to display the fake covers — if he’ll agree to one “minor” addition. In letters the same size and color as the word “TIME,” the word “BOMB” should be added just below the word “TIME.”

    TIME
    BOMB

    Fixed.

  288. 288.

    Mike J

    @Major Major Major Major: BTW, This comment is on firefox on linux mint, pie filter works fine for originals and replies. The extremely remote possibility that the guy above was having a platform dependent problem is ruled out.

  289. 289.

    Ben from Virginia

    @? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?:

    There are several commentators here who believe white people are evil and should go DIAF so it doesn’t matter if they all go vote Republican anyway–it will hasten the glorious day of explcitly racialized political parties. Which has always worked out so well in every country it’s been tried!

  290. 290.

    different-church-lady

    @jl: Funny thought occurred to me today… Cultural Revolution? Students. Islamic Republic? Students.

    Draw your own conclusions. I didn’t…

  291. 291.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?

    @Omnes Omnibus: Its fun poking holes in their logic by asking simple, straightforward questions. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

  296. 296.

    raven

    I can settle this bullshit. Rachel just had a Farmer’s Only Dot Com commercial featuring and African American woman. Racism is dead.

  301. 301.

    Ruckus

    @TenguPhule:

    At this point, the teenagers don’t look so bad from here.

    No shit.
    However. The hold my beer and watch this credo is much stronger in the younger set and usually doesn’t end all that well. Sometimes hilarious, sometimes horrifying, still usually doesn’t end how the “planner” thought it would. OTOH old farts seem sometimes to have a bit too much of a positive view of themselves and think they have a clue how the world works, and set out to prove to everyone, not just their friends that they are right, damn it. Similar results, just on a larger scale.

  302. 302.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?

    @Ben from Virginia: Some white people are evil and do deserve to die. Because so many people in this country are intellectually lazy and apathetic, we’re in a place where we could see the end of true democracy in our lifetimes. A quasi-fascist one-party state ruled by and for oligarchs like the Kochs has a good chance of coming to pass because of bigoted idiots. All of us are reponsible for the world we live in. Trump voters (and GOP) helped make it worse

  304. 304.

    Feathers

    @Ben from Virginia: Not “white people.” Just you.

    Some people just have the stench of how much they hate their parents coming through in every string of words they try to put together.

  305. 305.

    TenguPhule

    @different-church-lady: No, I just have an appreciation for how much bleach it takes to remove the scum of the earth. Cheaper to use a really big magnifying glass with solar assistance.

  307. 307.

    TenguPhule

    @Ruckus:

    The hold my beer and watch this credo is much stronger in the younger set and usually doesn’t end all that well.

    This also tends to be self-correcting.

    What’s the old deathpeddler’s excuse?

  315. 315.

    Gravenstone

    Oh bless you Alain, M^4, and Cleek for making the internal pie filter apply to replies as well.

  318. 318.

    Ruckus

    @different-church-lady:
    I’ve learned the art of absolutely never accomplishing anything meaningful in my life.
    It’s taken me decades to get there, now I’m just trying to see how long I can go without breaking my record.

  321. 321.

    Ruckus

    @TenguPhule:
    Couldn’t find anyone to hold their beer when they were young? Because they were assholes then and haven’t changed?

  322. 322.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Junior G-Man) ? ?

    @Omnes Omnibus: Whatever you do don’t look at the comments. Chock full of fascists gibbering about capitalism and multiculuralism

  330. 330.

    J R in WV

    @Ben from Virginia:

    Hi Ben,

    How do you feel about pie? Because that’s the only thing you’ll be talking about here, soon, if you keep up at this rate.

    Take care,
    JR

    PS: One of my favorites is Pecan Pie, with a big side of vanilla ice cream, which cuts the richness of a proper pecan pie. Also, I use maple syrup instead of corn syrup for the filling the pecans float on.

    Think about it, all pie all the time!!

  335. 335.

    chris

    @Major Major Major Major: My guess? Next time I reboot it’ll work but right now I have a bunch of open tabs, you know how it is. If I really thought I needed to pie someone I’d probably just skip the thread.

  336. 336.

    J R in WV

    @Mike J:

    Hey M^4, next time you’re futzing with the pie script, can you add a counter? I’d love to see a line below the filter ui that says something like, “You’ve pied 112 out of 231 comments on this thread.”

    This is a great idea. I would like to be able to add comments to the pie database, personally, because I do like a good pie. And I make a good pie. So I can type good pie comments, too. I am impressed with the wide variety of piey commentary, though!!

  337. 337.

    J R in WV

    @chris:

    I’m running Firefox on Ubuntu 14.04 and my pie filter works great!!

    Who knew there was so much to say about pie!!!

  340. 340.

    joel hanes

    @chris:

    Pie filter not working.

    I had to re-pie the perp but then it worked perfectly again.

    Strawberry-rhubarb with a slightly-too-crisp crimped lattice crust for me, please, or tart cherry

  341. 341.

    joel hanes

    @divF:

    the old Unix “fortune” program

    % fortune
    You are in a maze of twisty little programs, all different.

    % fortune
    Beware the festive dog that shall sport upon the roadway, and avoid the grease mud, for there lurks the skid demon.

  342. 342.

    No One You Know

    @J R in WV: Wow. Pie flavors/ingredients/options by comment. That is BRILLIANT.

    I wonder about the efficacy of cutting a rich pecan pie with vanilla ice cream…vanilla ice cream seems to be rich. Is vanilla sherbet a go, with or without sprinkles?

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