Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

There is no compromise when it comes to body autonomy. You either have it or you don’t.

A lot of Dems talk about what the media tells them to talk about. Not helpful.

Their freedom requires your slavery.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

If you’re looking for someone who’s young and athletic, go watch a fucking movie.

People are complicated. Love is not.

The arc of the moral universe doesn’t bend itself. it’s up to us.

Tide comes in. Tide goes out. You can’t explain that.

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

The rest of the comments were smacking Boebert like she was a piñata.

I desperately hope that, yet again, I am wrong.

Be a traveling stable for those who can’t find room at the inn.

GOP baffled that ‘we don’t care if you die’ is not a winning slogan.

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

Not so fun when the rabbit gets the gun, is it?

Ah, the different things are different argument.

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

The current Supreme Court is a rogue court. Very dangerous.

T R E 4 5 O N

If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

Cole is on a roll !

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

You are here: Home / Anderson On Health Insurance / Recapping the revised Senate bill

Recapping the revised Senate bill

by | 87 Comments

This post is in: ,

The Senate released their revised bill.

The biggest and only important news is that there is fundamentally nothing different with Medicaid. It is still being destroyed. It won’t be destroyed as quickly in Louisiana in this version as it would have in the previous versions, but Medicaid will see a 25% reduction in federal funding by 2025 and 35% reduction in annual federal funding by 2036.

Everything else is a detail. There is an Alaska pay-off for more state stabilization funds. There is a provision for Florida.

There is the Cruz amendment.

Regarding the Cruz amendment, I just can’t deal with it. It is not exasperation, it is an incomprehension as to how this amendment actually works on any level without a fractured market. Maybe that is the entire point of the amendment.

Fundamentally things were tweaked around the edges of a bill that will produce incredible suffering without altering that basic fact.

Reader Interactions

87Comments

  2. 2.

    JMG

    They want to destroy all health insurance, public, private, you name it, except their own. I don’t advocate this, because murder is very bad and shooting Congresspeople only makes people feel sorry for them, but the probabilities are that if you take health insurance away from over 20 million Americans, more than one will rage out about it and also be a major firearms owner.

  3. 3.

    Ohio Mom

    I imagine that when I call Portman’s office tomorrow, I’ll be told he’s studying it.

  4. 4.

    Brachiator

    What’s the stuff about provisions that push for catastrophic plans as a means of reducing costs of premiums?

  5. 5.

    jl

    @Salter Wobchak: No reason to make it easy for them.

    Moderate GOPers in Senate punked again, and a cave to reactionaries (Cruz amendment) is being dishonestly sold as a comprise fix.
    No change in destruction of Medicaid, and this was the issue that the moderate Senate GOPer said was the fatal problem.
    Cruze sops to moderates are fraudulently funded.
    McConnell is trying to push a corrupt dishonest deal, telling moderates that the slashed Medicaid funding will be fixed somehow in the future to cover their votes. Who is McConnell bald face lying to, the moderates or the reactionaries?

    And moderate GOPers who will vote for this corrupt mess are spineless punks or dishonest weasels and they need to hear it.
    Everyone needs to contact a Congress critter tomorrow.

  6. 6.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    @JMG: If tens of millions lose health insurance, including those who have employer-provided, I doubt there will be much sympathy for the GOP at that point. I hope McConnell is one of the ones killed. He’s a monster and would deserve it.

  7. 7.

    rikyrah

    Regarding the Cruz amendment, I just can’t deal with it. It is not exasperation, it is an incomprehension as to how this amendment actually works on any level without a fractured market. Maybe that is the entire point of the amendment.

    you rarely speak like this…I know now just how horrid it is.

  8. 8.

    jl

    @JMG: Whoever wrote the Cruz amendment is trying to do just that. Destroy meaningful health insurance for everyone except the very rich. It has provisions that damage both the individual, and small and medium employer market. And gives large and malicious employers an opening to screw their lower income employees. It’s poisonous.

  9. 9.

    Adam L Silverman

    @rikyrah: I had the same problem with Speaker Ryan’s Better Way write up on US foreign policy. It’s 14 pages long. I’ve read it at least a 1/2 dozen times since he released it last year. It makes no sense. It’s a bunch of talking points/bullet points stitched together. Some even contradict others. It’s why I never did a post about it/analyzing it.

  10. 10.

    David Anderson

    @rikyrah: I usually allow myself the conceit that even if I have fundamental moral differences and place significantly different value weights on processes and outcomes of a given policy, I can understand the fundamental mechanics of a policy proposal. I was in a wonderful Twitter canoe and several other conversations with very smart people trying to figure out how the hell this thing could work over the past two days and the best answer that I have seen is “Magic”

    And that is coming from people who have spent their entire lives thinking these things through and in one case is ideologically friendly to Cruz and Lee. Magic is the best answer that I have see on implementation.

  12. 12.

    Miss Bianca

    @Adam L Silverman: Wow.

    ETA: What in the name of living fuckwadness has this country come to? Does government stink so much in the nostrils of the conservative electorate that basic *competence* at it is a sign of the beast? Or what? These fucking people like Cruz and Ryan – how DARE they put forward such contemptuously feeble horseshit? It’s like “none of this makes any sense and it doesn’t HAVE to, nyah, nyah, suck it, public, cause my corporate masters told me government of, by, and for the people will not only perish from this earth, but it’s my obligation to kill it. For them.”

  13. 13.

    Adam L Silverman

    @David Anderson: And that’s not counting Cruz’s amendment using money that the main bill allocates for other things. So with his amendment it, at least, double dips. I’ve seen some write ups indicating it may actually be triple or quadruple dipping.

    Math is hard…

  14. 14.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Miss Bianca: Just thinking about it makes my head hurt. I’d seen some of his other policy proposals. So I was prepared for it not really being a policy proposal. But hoo boy! And whoa Nelly!

  15. 15.

    Another Scott

    Reuters has a quick summary (warning – has one of those annoying move-around video boxes):

    Critics said despite some changes to coax wavering senators, the revised bill’s core remains unchanged: restructuring and cutting the critical Medicaid social safety-net program, taking away insurance from millions of Americans and driving up healthcare costs for millions of the most vulnerable Americans, especially older people and the sick.

    The revamped bill contains a provision that appears to be aimed at winning over Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, a moderate who had opposed the original bill. It would funnel additional money to states that have higher insurance premiums – at least 75 percent above the national average. Alaska is the only state with premiums that high, Senate aides said.

    McConnell is evil, not stupid. He knows how to count. He must figure that this is enough to pass the bill.

    Though the tone in the Reuters piece is that the bill has many, many opponents, it’s going to be a battle to defeat this thing. We need to do what we can to prove McConnell wrong.

    Grrr.

    Keep fighting!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  16. 16.

    Omnes Omnibus

    When I call Ron Johnson I harp on how damaging Medicaid will hurt rural WI. When I call Tammy Baldwin, I say keep on keeping on and thank the staffers for their efforts as well. Also too, Mark Pocan is a good egg. Oddly, 2/3 of my Congressional representation is gay – I just note it because I think it is probably quite uncommon.

  18. 18.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    @Another Scott:

    The revamped bill contains a provision that appears to be aimed at winning over Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, a moderate who had opposed the original bill. It would funnel additional money to states that have higher insurance premiums – at least 75 percent above the national average. Alaska is the only state with premiums that high, Senate aides said.

    That’s the problem with this bill. All the changes are just bribes to get something passed without regard to how good it really is

  20. 20.

    David Anderson

    @pamelabrown53: A recalculation of the DSH payments so that is based on the total number of uninsured individuals instead of number of people covered by Medicaid. That tweak favors states that did not expand Medicaid.

  21. 21.

    pamelabrown53

    @Another Scott: @15.
    Agree that McConnell is evil, not stupid. It appears the “Florida provision” was included at Marco Rubio’s request. It includes exceptions to the spending caps for public health emergencies such as the mosquito born Zika virus. At least when the elderly are thrown out of nursing homes they can get some relief for their mosquito bites.

  24. 24.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Two things:

    1. Cruz does not understand insurance

    2. Cruz does not understand Christianity

  29. 29.

    efgoldman

    @Miss Bianca:

    “none of this makes any sense and it doesn’t HAVE to, nyah, nyah, suck it, public, cause my corporate masters told me….”

    @Adam L Silverman:

    So with his amendment it, at least, double dips. I’ve seen some write ups indicating it may actually be triple or quadruple dipping

    You may remember that Granny Starver’s first budget/tax plan, even before he was “speaker”, was full of mystery asterisks along the line of the old “and then a miracle happens” cartoon.
    This is more of the same bullshit.
    It’s like they think no-one ever finished fourth-grade arithmetic.

  44. 44.

    Another Scott

    Sen. Kaine has a good statement out today:

    Thursday, July 13, 2017

    WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senator Tim Kaine, a member of the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions (HELP) Committee, released the following statement on the release of the latest version of the Senate Republican health care bill:

    “I’m hearing from Virginians what other Senators are hearing from their constituents across the country: drop this horrible bill and instead work together on bipartisan fixes to the health care system. None of the versions of TrumpCare meet the President’s promises that no one will lose health insurance or pay more for coverage, and that Medicaid will be protected. This newest version of the bill includes a provision that would allow insurers to sell skimpy health plans that will mean even higher premiums for Americans with pre-existing conditions and would destabilize the existing ACA marketplace. I’ve traveled across Virginia talking to parents, kids, teachers, doctors, and nurses about the health care system and what we should do to make it better. Just this week, mothers in Northern Virginia shared their concerns with me about what the Republican bill would mean for their kids with complex medical conditions who rely on Medicaid to get the care they need. We should be listening to them, abandoning TrumpCare, and working together on solutions – like the bills many of us have put forward – that would lower costs and improve health care for all Americans.”

    Kaine has been a leading voice calling on Republicans to work across the aisle with Democrats on proposals to improve the health care system that could get bipartisan support, including the reinsurance bill he introduced earlier this month to help stabilize the individual health care marketplace and lower premiums, which would help families in Virginia and across the country.

    Something like this line of argument might have some sway, especially among older people who are Donnie’s base, though personally I’m a bit more vocal and strident than he is on this. But he knows Virginia better than I do…

    I wrote to Warner and Kaine just now. (Warner’s web site is very, very slow. I wonder if he’s suffereing a DDOS for his statements against Donnie about Russia or something.)

    Keep fighting, everyone.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  57. 57.

    Yarrow

    Is it possible that the Cruz amendment is being allowed to be made public so that McConnell can hang its awfulness around Cruz’s neck? No one likes Cruz and McConnell would probably be glad to take him down a peg with a failure that has his name on it.

  66. 66.

    Gian

    sorry to be off topic, but I saw tonight that Maddow referenced part of the Russian election interference plan involved exacerbating the Sanders-Clinton conflict, at least in part by posting anti-Clinton stories on pro-Sanders sites.

    no I don’t think this will cure the schism, but, to me at least, it’s food for thought.

  72. 72.

    Millard Filmore

    @Another Scott:

    (warning – has one of those annoying move-around video boxes)

    I’m waiting for the day when the close button on advertising boxes gets negative gravity.

  75. 75.

    frosty

    Thanks from me too. And like efg, Ben was my first too. I’m up to 3 now thanks to that More Progressive Than Thou asshole on one of the other threads tonight.

  77. 77.

    sukabi

    @Adam L Silverman: well you could have posted a link to his piece and analyzed it like this “Speaker Ryan’s proposal is a bunch of contradictory talking points and buzz words that don’t mean Jack shit. It’s not a policy proposal, it’s a steaming pile of elephant shit.”

    But that is probably more attention than it deserved.☺

  81. 81.

    Lizzy L

    From Vox:

    Senate Republicans included a provision that exempts members of Congress and their staff from part of their latest health care plan. This exemption could have the effect of ensuring that members of Congress have coverage for a wider array of benefits than other Americans who purchase their own coverage. A Senate Republican aide confirmed that the exemption existed but was unable to comment as to the specific effect it would have. The aide said it was included to ensure that the bill hewed to the chamber’s strict reconciliation rules that limit the policies this health bill can include. The exemption is similar to the one that existed in the House health bill. After Vox reported on its existence, the House voted to close the loophole — and the Senate aide expected their chamber to follow the same path.

    Isn’t that special…

  83. 83.

    Another Scott

    RollCall:

    House Speaker Paul D. Ryan said Thursday that if the Senate delivers a health care bill before the summer is over, he’d be open to joining Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell in keeping his chamber in during at least part of the August recess.

    The Wisconsin Republican said that if the Senate produced the legislation at the same time members prepare to fly home for a month, “we’re going to stay and finish health care.”

    They think they can win this BCRAP vote and ram it through the House, too. We have to keep fighting.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  85. 85.

    jl

    exempt themselves, huh?
    Everyone needs to contact the Senators, whether Dem or GOP and express outrage and disgust at what is going on.
    At this point whether we win or lose shouldn’t make any difference. They need to hear their constituents’ outrage and disgust.
    And after McConnell’s disgraceful dishonesty and cynicism, time to ask the GOPers who they can stay with a party run by crooks.

  86. 86.

    schrodingers_cat

    So what did Protocols of Zion* (Ben from Virginia) say now to get banned again?

    *He had said in one of his brilliant comments that’s what the preoccupation with all things Russia was like.

Comments are closed.

Trackbacks