"Anyone else care to smart mouth me?" pic.twitter.com/LR38iJ2oF6
— Schooley (@Rschooley) July 22, 2017
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Ancestral war cry: Confusion to our enemies!
The Trump-minions look pretty confused right now…
It's a bit weird when Trump gets a new professional liar and reporters are like WOW VERY SMOOTH SMOOTHNESS.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) July 21, 2017
The day after news breaks that the President wants to fire Meuller and pardon himself, EVERY SINGLE QUESTION is about palace intrigue.
— BetterThanEzraKlein (@Yeggo) July 21, 2017
I'd say the chances of Reince departing in the next month tripled with that answer. Humiliating.
— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) July 21, 2017
Out: nothingburgers
In: Nuremburgers pic.twitter.com/pHa86jEgfH
— Kelsey D. Atherton (@AthertonKD) July 21, 2017
Things are great in the Trump White House, why do you ask? pic.twitter.com/cOib52eU85
— Schooley (@Rschooley) July 21, 2017
Lord of all the flies!
Meanwhile…
While all agree the U. S. President has the complete power to pardon, why think of that when only crime so far is LEAKS against us.FAKE NEWS
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 22, 2017
"so far" as Kinsley gaffe? reminiscent of Conway saying no evidence of collusion "yet" https://t.co/4242suegWw
— Brendan Nyhan (@BrendanNyhan) July 22, 2017
I hope Sean Spicer is drinking a Bloody Mary right now, reading these tweets, and DMing Scaramucci, "the ball is in your court, buddy." https://t.co/GuggIsI1Gt
— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) July 22, 2017
Omnes Omnibus
Scaramucci tweets? Try this.
ETA: Read the comments.
El Caganer
Yes, but he’s lord of all the best flies, very bigly and classy! They said, the FAKE NEWS said, your flies all have tiny wings! They’ve got the biggest wings! SAD!
jl
I saw a pic of Scaramucci and thought two things. First, a pre-depraved young Jack Nicholson, but that is probably very unfair to Jack Nicholson. Probably I am mentally confusing him with one of Nicholson’s less savory characters. The Shining?
Or, as I typed last night, a young Joker right before he went psycho and started smearing himself with clown make-up.
So, I think it will go ultra-Spicey soon, except uglier. Maybe we should expect the ‘toast’ scene from Five Easy Pieces, or full on Joker at the communications office. That is assuming the communications office continues to ‘communicate’ in any way a normal person would understand.
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
I didn’t realize you could respond to a five-year-old tweet.
jl
@Omnes Omnibus: Hilarious responses.
debbie
Lord of the Flies was my favorite book in high school.
I heard that back in the early times of the administration, Trump had yelled at Spicer because of his poor clothing choices (talk about lack of self-awareness). Sarah’s fashion choices are no better, from the press conference clips I’ve seen. Will he bully her into better clothing? Will he muse out loud that she’s a 5 or maybe even a 4?
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: I can’t decide whether the Carpool Karaoke with Michielle Obama was my favorite, or this one:
Another Scott
@WaterGirl: rofl. :-)
Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
Omnes Omnibus
@WaterGirl: The Mueller one was my favorite.
Felonius Monk
@debbie:
Only after SNL really starts making fun of her and the way she dresses.
eemom
Focusing on Bohemian Rhapsody is a good way of dealing, in my zen opinion.
Brachiator
@Omnes Omnibus:
This is hilarious. I’m at a cafe eating a late lunch, and trying hard to cut back my laughter.
NotMax
If that wretched congeries constitutes a palace, I’ll opt for a hovel.
Another Scott
Totally OT, but I crack up every time I see this SlingTV ad (0:30).
“No.”
rofl.
Cheers,
Scott.
sukabi
@WaterGirl: for the WINNNNNN! lol
Patricia Kayden
@jl: You’re hilarious!! Scaramucci is a decent youngish White conservative male. Why else would he want to work for Trump?
dexwood
@Felonius Monk:
Given the downward direction of Traitor Trump’s reign, she might not be there when SNL returns to the air in late September or early October. Not to worry, many other targets to mock.
Brachiator
@debbie:
The Internets, and rock and roll, never forgets.
— Admiral Horatio Nelson
WaterGirl
Okay, just one more:
Patricia Kayden
@Omnes Omnibus: The funniest ones for me were the “quotes” by Jesus Christ and Nelson Mandela. Scaramucci seems to be another Rightwing poser. He must think we’re all thick headed like his President,
K-to-the-Jane
@Omnes Omnibus: Jesus Christ (aka Captain and Tennile): that’s the shit right there. Hee hee hee hee…
WaterGirl
@Patricia Kayden: Is he single? Maybe he thought that would be a great quote for pickup up babes.
Omnes Omnibus
I went to see Valerian in 3-D this afternoon. Visually stunning. As far as the rest goes, it is a Luc Besson movie. If you like his stuff, you will probably like it. If not, then you won’t.
Quinerly
@Omnes Omnibus: “Everybody was Kung Fu fighting”….love the comments! Thanks for the post.
Felonius Monk
@Another Scott: Any ad or movie that has Danny Trejo in it is fun to watch.
Patricia Kayden
@WaterGirl: Lol!! Well it certainly backfired on him in an hilarious fashion.
Omnes Omnibus
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard. -John Stuart Mill
WaterGirl
@Patricia Kayden: Where did I read that he had taken down a tweet praising Hillary Clinton? Donnie wouldn’t like that.
Baud
Oh, are we playing fake internet quotes….
My anaconda don’t want none
Unless you’ve got buns, hon — Abraham Lincoln
Felonius Monk
The Mooch is an arrogant asshole. Those two qualities (arrogance and assholishness) will result in his nuts being in Trump’s vice grip within six months. Get out the popcorn, the show is about to start.
Bex
If you like pina coladas and getting caught in the rain,
If you like
making love at midnight in the dunes of the cape,
I’m the love that you looked for
write to me and escape
–Vladimir Putin
Roger Moore
@Omnes Omnibus:
I thought that was John Maynard Keynes.
Jeffro
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m dyin’…
Anyway, Trumpov’s a human dumpster fire…the only folks he draws to him are lesser fires, less odiferous dumpsters.
Would not shock me to see Mueller drop a few charges on key players as early as next week. That way, when Trumpov reacts (whatever form that takes) it’s just that, a reaction. But we’ll see.
bemused
And who is the hugest leaker in the WH? Thinking, thinking…
WaterGirl
@Bex: Good one! Is that yours, or was that tweeted in response to the Mooch.
SFAW
@Omnes Omnibus:
But was the science accurate/correct????? Or were there key errors in things like the Gravitational Constant, or whether the time-travel assumptions were valid???
Anyway, glad you (I think) enjoyed it, sounds like the “10 Worst” blurb I mentioned earlier was probably not justified.
hueyplong
In a 69 my humpty nose will tickle your rear
— Reinhold Niebuhr
Just One More Canuck
If you wanna be my lover, you gotta get with my friends
Make it last forever, friendship never ends. – Field Marshal Bernard Law Montgomery (Military Spice)
Bex
@WaterGirl I’m not on Twitter, so it’s all mine.
J R in WV
@eemom:
Fat Bottomed Girls…?!!
Mohagan
@WaterGirl: That one, FTW!!
mai naem mobile
Scaradouche looks like mafia. He just needs a double breasted suit.
SiubhanDuinne
I really hate being lookist, but SHS makes it so fucking hard.
Omnes Omnibus
@hueyplong:
I’m a fucking lawyer. How the fuck would I know? It fucked up neither US law nor Earthly military tactics. It was a great popcorn movie. My only real complaint was that the dude sitting next to me was wearing a “smart” watch that would flash occasionally and cause him to check his phone – asshole.
jl
Oh, but the prestige and the glory
Another human interest story
You are that
Jane Austen
Patricia Kayden
@SiubhanDuinne: She’s ugly on the inside. Outer beauty would make no difference.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
That’s funny.
Patricia Kayden
@WaterGirl: He has also donated $$& to Obama and Clinton and I’ve seen a video of him criticizing candidate Trump.
MomSense
@Omnes Omnibus:
Hahaha!!!
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
Looks like Spicey is intent on pretending the last 6 months were all just some terrible nightmare (though downthread it’s pointed out it was never on his Twitter bio).
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
In tears of mirth here.
Seriously, sobbing and hiccuping. So much glee.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@Patricia Kayden: We can only hope this is an inside job.
Chet Murthy
@SiubhanDuinne: It’s tough not to notice that she’s (at least her face) is not symmetrical. As in: very much not so. And yeah, hate being lookist, but it’s there. And then (of course) there’s her cruella de ville impression.
SWMBO
I think Sarah Huckabee Sanders gets her fashion sense from Herb Tarlek. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iyTTX6Wlf1Y
Also like Melissa McCarthy’s Spicey, why isn’t she wearing Ivanka’s clothing line and hawking her merchandise? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iyTTX6Wlf1Y
SiubhanDuinne
@WaterGirl:
Heh.
mai naem mobile
@SiubhanDuinne: it’s not just the looks. It’s the whole package. She doesn’t have a sense of humor. She’s not a good liar. She’s not good at her job. She wouldn’t even do a good job if she was working for early second term Obama.
TriassicSands
@debbie:
Now, you’re scaring me.
Hmm. I guess that’s better than Atlas Shrugged.
Mnemosyne
@SiubhanDuinne:
If have a friend who resembles SHS physically, but is an actual nice person and not someone whose soul is dead, so my friend is quite pretty at the same weight and with the same hairstyle.
mai naem mobile
@SWMBO: I think SHS gets her style advice from Mama’s Family. I know that’s really really mean.
O. Felix Culpa
@Omnes Omnibus:
Oh yes. My sides hurt. Tears run from laughter.
Did Scary Monkey really tweet the original? I can see that communications from this guy are going to be the best. The very best.
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: I wonder if anyone has turned that look into a meme on the internet?
bemused
@mai naem mobile:
Also Don Jr and Eric with slicked back shiny hair look like mobsters or hedgefunders, wall streeters.
Baud
@mai naem mobile: I remember that show. Good call.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: That was in reference to yesterday’s food fight about getting the science wrong in a film.
debbie
@TriassicSands:
It was a dark time.
jl
Because I’m easy come, easy go, little high, little low
Any way the wind blows doesn’t really matter to me, to me
George Washington
SiubhanDuinne
@Chet Murthy:
Yes, her mouth tilts down on one side and her eye on that side tilts up. Whereas, contrariwise, the opposite is true on the other side of her face.
(But also — I swear I don’t mean this to sound like “advice to Hillary,” which was so fucking annoying and offensive last year — but seriously, if SHS could just smile occasionally or look even a little bit interested and engaged, she would make a much stronger, more positive impression.)
lurker dean
not a surprise, but looks like the GOP is all-in on looking the other way if mueller is fired.
Mark Murray @mmurraypolitics
Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX) to @mitchellreports: If Mueller were fired, you’d see a tremendous backlash, incl from House Republicans
Ned Price @nedprice
Rep. McCaul walked this statement back only a few hours later during an @AspenSecurity session. Almost like someone got to him.
https://twitter.com/nedprice/status/888901832432644098
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@Omnes Omnibus:
Well, he’s off to a rollicking good start!
jl
@SiubhanDuinne: Trump makes a ‘looks’ exception for ladies who will get his business done, by hook or crook. He sees them as a kind of third gender. Seriously. I came to that conclusion during the campaign when reading interviews with women who have done well working in his organization.
jl
Here is a real Twain quote. Seems like some kind of oracle. I’m trying to figure out what it foretells.
Tell the truth or trump—but get the trick.
Omnes Omnibus
@WaterGirl: I know that. Science errors tend to pass by me unnoticed though; types of errors that could bother me tend not to occur in movies set 800 years in future.
O. Felix Culpa
I want to hold your hand.
~Macron
Mnemosyne
@TriassicSands:
That’s a potentially interesting thread for some weekend night: what was the best book you were forced to read for school?
I actually really liked The Scarlet Letter. Even in-class discussions couldn’t ruin it for me.
Omnes Omnibus
@O. Felix Culpa: Ha!
WaterGirl
@Patricia Kayden: Why is it that the inner ugliness of republican women shows on their faces more than the inner ugliness of the men?
WaterGirl
@O. Felix Culpa: Good one!
Baud
@WaterGirl: Their men are pretty ugly.
Baud
@O. Felix Culpa: Win.
Omnes Omnibus
@WaterGirl: In the men, it tends to show up as creepiness.
schrodingers_cat
Husband kitteh’s neighbor from India and her husband were visiting this morning. The two of them became citizens about a couple of years ago. They are a chemist and a pharmacist respectively. They were telling us horror stories of their Trumpian neighbors in Connecticut. The ex-neighbor was driving herself crazy by checking T’s tweets, during breakfast.
BTW I just filled out my voter registration application.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Not in the same way, though. I never saw hate on Spicey’s face, for instance.
SFAW
@Omnes Omnibus:
WaterGirl @ 64 has it right (re: the catalyst for my comment).
I sometimes wonder if, when people hear “science fiction,” they think that it’s only “fiction” because the characters are made up, but everything else must conform to our reality. Yes, my life is dull.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: That’s it. Interesting phenomenon.
schrodingers_cat
@SFAW: Laws of physics are not going to change in 800 years.
jl
@WaterGirl: ” Why is it that the inner ugliness of republican women shows on their faces more than the inner ugliness of the men? ”
Huh, what? No way. Most of the Trumpster and GOP congress nutcase men’s faces scream ‘run fast as you can away from this shit!’ to me. But I am a man, so maybe I read other men’s faces in a different way than women do.
Edit: I see guys like that in real life, my hand reflexively heads south to see if my wallet is still there.
raven
HVAC update. It still don’t work.
SiubhanDuinne
@WaterGirl:
It’s surely only a matter of time. (I’m not skilled at making memes, or I’d get things started.)
Chet Murthy
@WaterGirl: Gottta demur. Chimperor. Darth Cheney. Putinfluffer. Ghouliani. Bannonazi. Yertle. I could go on, but shit, they’re all uglier than sin, ain’t they? That said,when any human snarls in their rage and hate, it’s not a pretty sight, is it?
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@SFAW:
Well, it was no Interstellar….
;-)
jl
@Baud: You need to do better in your 2020 run or you risk becoming the Mike Huckabee of Harold Stassens.
WaterGirl
@jl: I think Omnes has hit on something. There’s an ugliness that shines through in the women, and a creepiness that shines through with the men. The “run away” feeling is from the creepiness.
Trump himself, he is hideous. Sorry, that’s what I think.
lollipopguild
@Mnemosyne: I was forced to read” A Tale of Two Cities” and really ended up liking it. Not so much for so much else that I was forced to read.
Mnemosyne
@WaterGirl:
I’m pretty sure that’s already a meme and she was not actually standing in front of a wall of skulls when the original photo was taken.
jl
@Chet Murthy: They are walking examples of the old saying, at fifteen you have the face you were born with, after fifty you have the face you deserve.
frosty
@SFAW: That’s sort of true. The science has to have internal consistency, and if possible be something that could be extrapolated from what we know now. FTL drive and time travel obviously fAil the latter, but if it hangs together in the story, it’s acceptable. And all the author really needs is a name for it: warp drive, inertialess drive, flux capacitor, etc.
Central Planning
@Omnes Omnibus:
That’s also called the charging port.
frosty
@schrodingers_cat: Tell that to Newton. :-)
lollipopguild
@jl: He is playing the card game Bridge.
SFAW
@schrodingers_cat:
And the Sun still revolves around the Earth.
In other words: the laws of physics might not change, but our understanding of them may change.
[Yes, I realize the Sun/Earth thing is not really a physic-laws thing.]
WaterGirl
@Chet Murthy: Ugly, yes, but I don’t see the hate in the men as much as the women. You’ve got me on Darth Chaeny, there’s visible hate there. And Trump.
Ghouliani, Bannonazi and Yertle – very high creep factor there. Trump kids and spouse – major creep factor there, regardless of gender. Ugh. shudder
Major Major Major Major
@WaterGirl: Hey WG, what were you and SD going on about re: the pie filter last thread? Ticket’s up here if you wanted to add notes.
frosty
@raven: Shit. Sorry to hear that. I hate it when stuff breaks that I don’t know how to fix. Which is most everything these days. Used to fix my car, I don’t even look under the hood any more.
WaterGirl
@Mnemosyne: Laughing. I was thinking of regular people posing with that face. But you’re right that photo itself is a meme.
schrodingers_cat
@frosty: Newton’s Laws are still valid, they just need to be corrected for extremely large planet sized objects and extremely small, atom sized objects.
Newton was wrong about light but Newtonian mechanics works just fine for most RL applications not on the galactic or quantum scale.
Another Scott
@schrodingers_cat: Vote early, vote often!
;-)
Good for you. It’s important!
Cheers,
Scott.
WaterGirl
@raven: I was afraid of that.
NotMax
Remnants of what was Hurricane Fernanda moving in and gonna be with us until Tuesday, so they say.
@jl
It’s as if a concerted effort is underway to seek out people who score in the lowest decile when it comes to social skills.
Mnemosyne
@lollipopguild:
I somehow managed to get through school without ever being assigned to read Dickens. I’m still not quite sure how. Somehow, I never ended up with a teacher who assigned it.
It helped that I was always in the advanced English classes where the teachers allowed us to be more self-directed. I still bless the teacher who introduced me to P.G. Wodehouse.
Omnes Omnibus
@WaterGirl:
Don’t worry, I won’t let it go to my head.
schrodingers_cat
@Mnemosyne: Not even David Copperfield?
Mnemosyne
@WaterGirl:
Hey, I’ve overlooked completely blatant things in photos myself, so I had to check and made sure the skulls had registered for you. ?
raven
@WaterGirl: Yea, I wasn’t convinced when he left that it was fixed. I’m thinking we have to replace it, it’s over 20 years old.
jl
@lollipopguild: I contributed ‘Tell the truth or TRJMP’ to the new rotating headers. If it is not chosen I expect all good BJ commenters to support me in my lawsuit!
Edit: I knew it referred to Bridge. I suffered enough people trying to teach me that game. The first part just seemed a little too relevant to the current mess.
lollipopguild
@Mnemosyne: I had to read “The Great Gatsby” in 7th grade and Hated it.
frosty
@schrodingers_cat: True, but Newton didn’t know that. If you dropped him into the present (using the flux capacitor, of course) he’d think the laws of physics had gotten very weird. Or maybe not and he’d catch on that he was dealing with a small subset of all possible conditions. I hear he was a pretty smart dude after all.
Mnemosyne
@schrodingers_cat:
No. It’s really kind of weird. The Dickens I’ve read was all on my own time.
I also missed reading The Great Gatsby in high school. I read it on my own as an adult.
WaterGirl
@Major Major Major Major: Just trying some stuff. I thought maybe adding someone by # instead of typing the name might fix the Chris chris problem, but it didn’t. I opened GitHub in a window, i’ll just have to try to remember my password.:-)
Omnes Omnibus
@lollipopguild: Too young.
Chet Murthy
@Mnemosyne: Esp. Bannonazi. Lordy, the moral degradation inside that husk ….
Another Scott
@raven: Bummer.
I assume you’ve gone through checklists like this since you’ve tried to replace the capacitor a couple of times. Maybe it’s the contactor relay?
Good luck getting it figured out!
Cheers,
Scott.
NotMax
@Mnemosyne
The Rise of Silas Lapham, Sister Carrie and Rappaccini’s Daughter.
lollipopguild
@jl: I am with you! To the Barricades!
frosty
@Mnemosyne: I loathed Great Expectations, dunno why they though teenagers should read it. Anything else by Dickens would be more appropriate.
Trying to remember what they made us read…
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@jl:
I’d say it’s not gender-specific…
Trey Gowdy, Gohmert, Fiorina, Palin… they’re inner Hexenbiests comes out pretty clearly regardless of sex.
Mnemosyne
@lollipopguild:
G decided to give that old high school chestnut A Separate Peace a chance as an adult. Nope. It still sucked.
I was forced to read that shitty book twice but no Gatsby.
And I was shocked to read Wuthering Heights as an adult and discover that Heathcliff is the villain! He fears that Cathy’s ghost is going to murder him, and for good reason.
WaterGirl
@raven: Yep, not big surprise but it sucks to have lost the time today. And I bet it’s hot as hell, which sucks.
One thing i learned when this happened to me is that they really do respond to calls in order. A lot of people don’t think to phone on the weekend, so if you haven’t already called all 3 places back, you could think about doing that tonight in the hopes of being a bit higher on the list than if you wait until Monday.
jl
@frosty: Had to read Great Expectations in HS. Yuck. Got an abridged version of David Copperfield, that was better. Wish they had done it the other way.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@frosty:
Oh, I loved GE. Different tastes, I suppose.
Major Major Major Major
@WaterGirl: Yeah, it saves the names case-sensitive but doesn’t seem to read them that way, or something, I don’t know, I’m tired and I didn’t do it!
@Mnemosyne:
I didn’t learn until I was like 30 that A Separate Peace is actually not supposed to be queerer than a three-dollar bill.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne: Thanks for the spoiler alert. It is on one of my shelves but I have never read it.
Mnemosyne
@frosty:
I read Great Expectations as an adult and liked it. Teenagers are too young to understand the tragedy of Miss Havisham’s actions, which ensured that the person who should have loved her like a mother never would.
lollipopguild
@frosty: It was the literary equivilent of eating your vegetables. “Here Read this! It’s GOOD for you!”
raven
@Another Scott: Yea, I did all that and THEN called the pro. I’ll call the weekend service number in the morning but I’m not going to pay another for another weekend call. We agonized about this when the built our addition our general and HVAC contractor felt the system was ok but it was over 4 years ago. I think we stretched it pretty well and it’s going to have to be done at some point.
artem1s
@schrodingers_cat:
Um, Newtonian physics vs, Einsteinian physics. QED, actual physics won’t change, but human understanding of the ‘laws of physics’ will almost certainly change in the next 800 years. or at least, the FSM help us, they better change
Enhanced Voting Techniques
It’s Trump, but reading the full list of them it sounds like he had a melt down this morning on Twitter. What way to start the day; get up, get out of bed and start screaming at the world. ROFL
Villago Delenda Est
The cretinous stupidity of the Village continues, even when they’re being lied to constantly.
And Rinse is totally hosed. A Chief of Staff who doesn’t control the flow of information to the President is as useless as tits on a boar hog.
BTW, got back from Valerian haven’t read the thread for other comments on it, but it’s fine eye candy. Just don’t think too much about the plot.
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major:
Maybe not 30, but it took me a while to realize that the reverse was true with Bridehead Revisited.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus:
Spoiler alerts are generally considered unnecessary for classics of the western canon older than 150 years.
raven
@Major Major Major Major: adjust your snarkometer
artem1s
I kinda want to hope that Spicey and Boehner are somewhere sharing a whiskey and a Marlboro in some dark, smokey bar.
Jeanne
@SiubhanDuinne: Same here, but she just looks so very, very dumb. Like those slack-jawed, slatternly girls in high school whose best outcome was domestic violence victim.
Yes, I feel bad writing that.
Mnemosyne
@Major Major Major Major:
I think that’s a case of the author’s subconscious jumping up to bite him because, yeah, the repressed homosexuality is just aching to burst out in that book.
@Omnes Omnibus:
You made me laugh so loud I scared the cats. ?
Major Major Major Major
@raven: This is the internet, you’d be amazed what people think constitutes (or doesn’t constitute) a spoiler.
NotMax
@Mnemosyne
Besides the ones mentioned above which enjoyed at the time also recall being forced to plow through The Marble Faun and thinking “I’d probably like this better if I were 40.”
Yarrow
Maybe this was discussed in a previous thread, but wow.
Apparently Hope Hicks was the only person in the NYT interview with Trump. Wonder if she’s Trump’s side piece.
WaterGirl
@raven: When I got mine there were substantial tax credits if you got a unit that had a seer rating of over a certain number. I don’t know if that’s still in effect, but it might be worth checking out.
My power and heating bill lowered substantially after I got the new system.
GxB
@SiubhanDuinne: Seen elsewhere online “It’s like the four quarters of her face are experiencing completely different emotions simultaneously…”
WaterGirl
@Yarrow: Wowser!
sir: “Other top aides, including Reince Priebus and Steve Bannon, also had no clue.” Reince isn’t a top aide, he’s the fucking chief of staff. No wonder he went nuts.
Mike J
@West of the Rockies (been a while): All the Dickens and other stuff other people were forced to read I had to pick up on the streets by myself. I like ’em though.
My HS English teacher was a published Faulkner scholar, so each spring we’d go to Yoknapatawpha (Memphis is only 1.5 hrs from Oxford). Most people don’t wind up freaked out by As I lay Dying until college, but we got all his biggest hits in HS.
lollipopguild
@Yarrow: Can you see her and trump doing it on top of his desk in the Oval Office?
Mnemosyne
@Yarrow:
I heard, like, 2 minutes of a reporter being interviewed on NPR this morning where she said the Oval Office is like Grand Central Station — pretty much anyone in the White House can just walk in and interrupt whatever is going on in there whenever they want.
I changed the channel when they asked about Trumpsky’s “ideology,” though. He doesn’t fucking have one. Haven’t you morons figured that out yet?
mai naem mobile
@raven: you might want to get one of those portable ac units to make it through. I think they’re around $300 at home depot. I don’t know how you’re handling the heat and humidity. We’ve had our ac go out a few times over the years and it’s absolutely miserable.
NotMax
@Mike J
Faulkner is an acquired distaste.
SFAW
@Yarrow:
Only when Princess Iv ain’t “available.”
SiubhanDuinne
@GxB:
Perfect!
schrodingers_cat
@NotMax: His books are so depressing, and his portrayal of women is problematic.
Villago Delenda Est
@Major Major Major Major: When I was standing in line for Titanic I blurted out that the ship hits an iceberg half way through the movie.
An acquaintance also in line nearby immediately rose to the offered bait and protested vehmently!
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: The person at whom the joke was aimed got it.
debbie
@raven:
How do machines know how to quit when they’re most needed? The boiler in my apartment building literally always died in February.
Mnemosyne
@Mike J:
I’m assuming you skipped Sanctuary, unless your teacher managed to sneak it under the parents’ radar.
SFAW
@lollipopguild:
He has faith that Hope will have some charity.
Patricia Kayden
@West of the Rockies (been a while): The movie version I watched was so depressing though. Can’t watch it again. Every year I watch “Our Mutual Friend” two part series which is based on a Dickens’ novel.
debbie
@Mnemosyne:
I went back and reread Catcher in the Rye a couple years ago and hated it. So much whining. It ended my project of reading many of the books that had really mattered to me.
Yarrow
@WaterGirl: Yep. I give Priebus less than a month before he’s gone.
@lollipopguild: The little I’ve heard about Hope Hicks leads me to think she’d do whatever Trump wants. Yuck.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: And congratulations to you and her.
Tenar Arha
@Villago Delenda Est: Agreed. Visually beautiful, great intro. I really wanted to see more with the people from Mul, & I would have loved if Bubble the refugee could team up with Laureline. Unfortunately the central plot was formulaic, & the ending was meh
I’d still recommend a matinee in the theater for the looks though.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mike J:
You poor bastard.
SFAW
@lollipopguild:
And since FYWP won’t let me edit my previous comment:
One can only hope that Hope Hicks is this year’s Megan Marshack.
TriassicSands
@Mnemosyne:
The book I liked best — though it was a book I chose for a book report, not an assigned book I was forced to read — was “The Moon And Sixpence” by W. Somerset Maugham. The life of Paul Gauguin inspired the story.
It’s strange. As I think about it now, “The Moon in Sixpence” was written in 1919, which seems truly ancient, but that was 45 years before I read it and if you subtract 45 years from today it would yield a book written in 1972.
Of the books I was “forced” to read — assigned would be a better word since I was a avid reader — “Ethan Frome” is the one that comes most readily to mind. Thinking about it now, I did like “A Tale of Two Cities.” But not “Great Expectations.”
I re-read “The Scarlet Letter” not that long ago. I enjoyed it. (I rarely read fiction anymore, but I try to get in a few good novels each year.)
(I read “Atlas Shrugged” in high school and thought “John Galt” was a long-winded blowhard. I read the complete Rand library — the non-fiction stuff, too — and thought she was full of it. I’ve never changed that opinion.)
Omnes Omnibus
@Tenar Arha: The plot of Raiders of the Lost Ark was formulaic as well. My thought is that Besson did it intentionally; sometimes one doesn’t want to think too much and one just wants to go alone for the ride.
schrodingers_cat
@artem1s: see # 105.
Gelfling 545
@lollipopguild: Not a good book for grade 7. Now, grade 9 students tend to love it.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@Mike J:
Faulkner does very little for me (As I Lay Dying, The Sound and the Fury). I don’t think I will choose another work by him. Bleak and tedious, IMO.
schrodingers_cat
@TriassicSands: I have read one Ayn Rand book, Anthem. That was enough. Its also one of her shortest works.
Mnemosyne
@Patricia Kayden:
GE is kind of an odd book because it turns out that the main (narrating) character is peripheral to the actual tragedy that unfolds, while he ends up pretty much okay and happily married. That may be a hard thing to get across in a movie.
@debbie:
I’ve had pretty decent luck re-reading books that were important to me, but Catcher in the Rye is another of those books I never had to read in high school. I’ve read some other Salinger, but not that one.
But, then, I’ve always been more of a pop culture fan, so I never really read all that many “deep” books. ?
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@artem1s:
Their eyes meet over the ash tray, Spicy’s hand finds Boehner’s thigh, Sinatra plays on the jukebox….
SFAW
@Omnes Omnibus:
How so?
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
Did anybody else see Scaramucci’s little show yesterday? I saw a little of it later last night. He said, among other horseshit:
Is this guy for real? He can’t be for real. “I myself have seen Donald Tяump strike Babe Ruth out on three pitches! I saw him make an unassisted quadruple play!” Is this some kind of batshit crazy performance art? Nobody can be that big an asskisser. Right? Please tell me nobody would debase himself the way this guy is.
frosty
@debbie: AC quits in the summer and boilers quit in the winter because that’s when the machinery gets stressed the most, running longer or at higher settings than usual. Sucks.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@NotMax:
The father of one of my professors at university reportedly tracked down a very drunk Faulkner to tell him he’d won the Nobel Prize for literature… Faulkner remained silent for long seconds before looking up in a haze and asking, “Does it pay?”
SFAW
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
Nobody outside of the Rethuglican Party, at least.
TriassicSands
@SiubhanDuinne:
When I saw the photo above, I thought about commenting, but I decided against it, because I don’t generally like to talk about people’s looks. My only comment would be she has a really unpleasant face — that may be because I know what is stored in her brain, but for a person who is not ugly, much less deformed, she is very hard for me to look at. It’s probably psychological.
I guess I’d rather look at her than listen to her — ‘cuz then what’s in the head comes out and that is truly ugly.
O. Felix Culpa
Well, I’ve enjoyed this literary discussion. I’m off to read another chapter or two of Tony Hillerman’s Dance Hall of the Dead before going to bed. My younger self aspired to be a Phd in German literature (talk about turgid!), but escaped before too much damage was done. Now I’m reading through the Leaphorn and Chee books especially for the local color.
NotMax
@Patricia Kayden
Seek out the two-parter made of Martin Chuzzlewit. Pete Postlethwaite’s performance as Tigg is stellar.
@schrodingers_cat
That’s what was meant by acquired distaste – the more you read, the less you like.
Another Scott
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.): You don’t remember his physician?
There seems to be a pattern there, but I can’t quite put my finger on it…
Cheers,
Scott.
Sab
@schrodingers_cat: Yay! I asked you that on an earlier dead thread.
O. Felix Culpa
@schrodingers_cat: Speaking of literary references, I loved your quote in the doomsday thread.
Brachiator
@lollipopguild:
Maybe a common theme, I know a lot of people who rankled at being forced to read from the approved list canon. It made them hate books that they might have enjoyed, given other circumstances.
I just plain loved to read. First read Great Expectations when I was 8 or 9, and it is still my favorite novel. But it also led me to dive into Dickens and other works, and provided me with a defense against dull, unimaginative teachers who made literature seem like eating cold vegetables.
But this is why stuff like the Harry Potter books make me smile. Kids discovered the novels, not teachers or librarians. And kids who supposedly hated reading dug into these books like medieval scholars rediscovering Greek tragedies and comedies.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@O. Felix Culpa:
Ah, yes, The Trials of Young Werther… blech.
Mnemosyne
@TriassicSands:
The only Maugham I’ve read was Of Human Bondage and, again, I read it as an adult. I wanted to punch the whiny asshole of a narrator. If the woman doesn’t want to date you, then leave her the fuck alone! Don’t harass her until she deigns to give you a pity fuck and then whine about how she ruined your life!
It was also weird that the baby is never referred to by name even though it doesn’t die until it’s, like, three years old. It’s always just “Baby.”
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
@TriassicSands: She looks to me like somebody who’s dead inside. She’s sold her soul, so there’s just nothing left to live for. And she knows it. Deep down, somewhere inside her she’d much rather not acknowledge, she knows what a hollow waste her whole life is. That’s how she comes across to me, at least.
Omnes Omnibus
@SFAW: Aaaaarrrggghhhh!!!!!!
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
The long running (and popular, in the same way that Asterix and Tintin are) source material is formulaic, by design.
TriassicSands
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
What is this bozo talking about? The key is the area between the foul line and the basket, so if he’s standing “in the key” he isn’t making foul shots.
I’d rather someone say about my president “He’s the most cooperative person I’ve ever met.” Trump’s the kind of person who is only competitive when he can fix the game. And cooperative? Never.
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: That is my point. Thank you.
WaterGirl
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.): I think Donnie likes him because he seems to mimic Donnie’s speech patterns. He says “okay” a lot just like Trump does, and he seems to use an excessive amount of modifiers, just like Trump does. I bet this is intentional, because Trump loves Trump so he will love the guy that reminds him of himself.
edit: and Trump loves to be fawned over. I really get the feeling that this is a schtick this guy is doing to please Trump. Ugh. Who could debase themselves like that?
Sab
@debbie: Catcher in the Rye is a book for teenaged boys. My husband loved and still loves it. When I read it in high school I thought “what a whiny twerp” and 35 years later I still think that. I love a lot of Salinger’s other books.
Villago Delenda Est
@NotMax: By that standard, MCU stuff is formulaic, but it’s so well executed that you don’t mind. Raiders shared that.
TriassicSands
@Mnemosyne:
When I was younger and reading a lot of fiction, if I read a book by an author and liked it, I would proceed to read one book after another. “Of Human Bondage” was my second Maugham book and I didn’t care for it.
I’ve gone back and re-read books I really liked and often the second reading is disappointing. Have you ever read any John Barth?
O. Felix Culpa
@West of the Rockies (been a while):
There was a sort of update, Die Neuen Leiden des Jungen W., written in the 1970s and set in the DDR. Long time since I read it, but as I recall “The New Trials” had the disillusioned angsty young man feel of Catcher in the Rye. Which I never liked, even as an adolescent.
ETA: I see I have used three different forms of punctuation – and non-punctuation – for book titles. I’ve joined the Rebellion!
Yarrow
@TriassicSands: Sarah Huckabee Sanders is ugly on the inside, which is evident in many ways from the outside.
Amir Khalid
@Baud:
Remember smart watches? Their main selling point was that they could tell you that your phone was ringing. For some reason, the public decided it could get by without that.
TriassicSands
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
I can see that.
TriassicSands
@schrodingers_cat:
I don’t know why I read so much; it isn’t that I found it compelling philosophically. It was probably where I was and when. Her philosophy, such as it is, always struck me as selfish and cruel — she would approve of the former.
TriassicSands
@Yarrow:
She has a lot of company in the Trump Cartel with the same internal ugliness. I suppose it is re-enforcing to be around nothing but people who are just like that.
Sab
@West of the Rockies (been a while): I think if you learned to talk in the South Faulkner’s prose sings. Otherwise, apparently it’s tedious.
Mnemosyne
@TriassicSands:
Never read any Barth. Perhaps unfairly, I’ve always lumped him in with people like John Updike who write about an upper-class East Coast milieu that I’m just not interested in.
workworkwork
@SFAW: We saw it today as well, mainly because I like Luc Besson.
It was gorgeous to look at, but the story was pure Besson. (As anyone who saw “Lucy” or “Fifth Element” will recognize.)
My main problem (no spoiler) was that the leads looked too young. I found out that the actor who played Valerian was thirty. He looked thirteen.
workworkwork
@Baud: My smartwatch has a ‘theater mode’ that silences any alerts and you can only see the face by tapping it. I also hit ‘do not disturb’.
You’re welcome.
Omnes Omnibus
@Amir Khalid: We were in a 3-D cinema with barcalounger-type seats. He took his shoes off and put his feet up.
Brachiator
@Mnemosyne: I read The Razor’s Edge after seeing the Bill Murray film adaptation. Later I made a point of seeing the 1946 film version of the novel. Liked all three in different ways. I’ve heard that the negative response to the Murray remake led him to avoid making movies for a time.
Omnes Omnibus
@workworkwork: I also like Besson. The male lead basically told people that he was 30ish very early in the movie. I saw him as that age. It may help that I got seriously carded into my 30s.
Omnes Omnibus
@TriassicSands: I have tried several times, but I have never been able to do more than 50 pages of Atlas Shrugged.
Omnes Omnibus
@workworkwork: My watches tell time with an analog dial.
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
Gnomon, coordinate.
;)
Ruckus
@GxB:
And she doesn’t understand any of them.
TriassicSands
@Mnemosyne:
Try The Sotweed Factor. My good friend would recommend Giles Goat-boy. I’ve read 100 pages of GGB several times but never gotten farther.
The Sotweed Factor is one book I read a second time without loss of appreciation. I lost interest in Barth after about 1980. Barth can write. He can do just about anything in fiction. But for me The Sotweed Factor was truly memorable.
From Wikipedia:
That may not be your cup of tea, but it doesn’t sound much like Updike, does it? It’s probably your age, meaning what he was writing when you became aware of him might well have been what you wanted to avoid. But The Sotweed Factor was published in 1960.
frosty
@TriassicSands: My English major brother got me to read Sotweed Factor and I liked it. He also got me into Pynchon to the point I read Gravitys Rainbow five times. Haven’t been back to it in decades. I expect it would hold up better than Catcher in the Rye.
workworkwork
@Omnes Omnibus:
Okay, Grandpa.
In my defense, my watch helps remind me to take my insulin at the right times during the day, as well as other stuff, like controlling the thermostat and giving me travel directions without having to look at my phone.
It also tells time.
As my brain gets older and dumber, I need smarter gadgets to take up the slack. But I’m still considerate at the theater.
Mnemosyne
@Brachiator:
The Murray version of the film is not bad except that Catherine Hicks is horrendously miscast as the man-eating vamp. She just can’t pull it off.
ETA: For perspective, Hicks plays the same role that Gene Tierney plays in the 1946 version. Hicks and Theresa Russell should have switched roles, because Russell could pull off heartless but attractive.
Omnes Omnibus
@workworkwork: Blow me. As far as the rest, maybe you shouldn’t go to movies at a time that you know you need to take medication.
TriassicSands
@frosty:
Did you read Giles Goat-boy? I keep thinking about going back to it, but I can’t imagine why I would be able to get through it now, when five or six previous tries came up empty. I guess I’m looking for encouragement.
SWMBO
Many many years ago in January, we went to see The King and I with Yul Brenner. He just got to A Puzzlement and some guy a few rows ahead of us had his (Christmas gift?) watch start playing The Yellow of Texas. In a loud tinny watch kind of way. He hadn’t had the watch long enough to know how to shut it off. Or mute it. Or anything. He wound up with it in his armpit. Brenner was on stage waiting for the bullshit to stop. He finally looked up with one eyebrow cocked as if to say ,”mind if I get on with my part?”
Tenar Arha
@Omnes Omnibus: True. It was complete popcorn, and I enjoyed most of it. Just felt the end was a let down. **spoiler alert** ( if you don’t want to be)
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The romantic subplot felt unnecessary and more than a little creepy. There’s been about 20 years between the Fifth Element and Valerian. I would have preferred buddy cops or if necessary the same levels of banter with an underlying sexual attraction like in Lucy, rather than that mess; it kind of pulled me out of the picture. And IMHO, I think Bubble was great and I wanted more of her.
SWMBO
For those who like Hideo Miyazaki’s film, tomorrow they are showing Kiki’s Delivery Service. It is a Fathom screening and shows at 12:55 Sunday. This is the dubbed version. The subtitled version is Monday evening at 7:00.
pappenheimer
I don’t remember the required reading I did in high school, but I do remember devouring Mary Renault’s historical novels out of my teacher’s personal library, starting with The King Must Die, along with Frazier’s Golden Bough. She got a funny look in her eye when I’d finished The Persian Boy and asked about The Charioteers.
Omnes Omnibus
@Tenar Arha: Spoiler response:
I saw it a different way. He was making assumptions. “I am pretty boy soldier/hero, you will sleep with me because that how it works.” And she said “No. No mistresses, no going back to that one because it ‘doesn’t count’.” Besson is French. He is going against a standard cultural tradition.
Tenar Arha
@Omnes Omnibus: Yeah, agree. Definitely suspect that work culture has not changed as much there as here.
Omnes Omnibus
@Omnes Omnibus: Besson always does strong women. Any take that does not acknowledge that is silly.
Tenar Arha
@Omnes Omnibus: Oh yeah. True too. I much preferred the women in this movie.
SFAW
@Omnes Omnibus:
I was actually asking a serious question. To me, Raiders was a throwback to the weekly movie-theater serials (NOTE: this view is heavily influenced by my father’s assessment; he used to watch them when he was a kid). Does that make it formulaic? I don’t know. But I didn’t watch it expecting any great insights about the human condition, unlike Interstellar.
[In case it wasn’t obvious: my “Interstellar” comment was only thrown in there because of yesterday’s Judean People’s Front/People’s Front of Judea argument about it. But the rest of my comment was serious. Stupid perhaps, but serious/sincere.]
Omnes Omnibus
@SFAW: I did not see Interstellar
GregB
@WaterGirl:
Have you seen Mitch McConnell?
He looks like his soul is leaking out of his sphincter and it is taking his skin with it.
swbarnes2
@O. Felix Culpa:
“Sorrows of Young Werther” was the “Twilight” of its day.
Team Albert!
SFAW
@Omnes Omnibus:
If you had, you could have participated in yesterday’s religious wars over it. Aren’t you sorry you missed it?
SFAW
@swbarnes2:
I thought Goethe was big on lemurs, not vampires and werewolves?
SFAW
@GregB:
Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence!
frosty
@TriassicSands: I probably did but I don’t remember any of it.
Robert Sneddon
@schrodingers_cat: No, Newton’s Laws are wrong. The real-world effects of what they predict aren’t wrong by very much and the errors don’t show up clearly until their effects are examined very closely or in specific circumstances (very large objects, very small objects, very high speeds). For all practical purposes like driving a car the errors are insignificant, but they’re always there. Just because some measurement is a trillionth out doesn’t mean that size error doesn’t exist.
It’s entirely possible Einstein’s General and Special Relativity theories are wrong too but they’ve been shown to be less wrong than Newton was after experiment and observation.
Science! Always wrong, getting less wrong every day.
J R in WV
@Jeanne:
Thank you women for going there before me, so I can agree with you. She isn’t even well spoken, which would make up for other failings… and she does nothing to try to address her shortcomings. How did she wind up with so much responsibility when she so obviously can’t cope with it?