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You are here: Home / Music / I hear you singing in the wire

I hear you singing in the wire

by DougJ|  August 8, 20178:46 pm| 193 Comments

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Glen Campbell RIP. Wichita Lineman, By the Time I Get to Phoenix, Gentle on My Mind, a lot of great songs he did.

Update. I didn’t know this:

After playing on many Beach Boys sessions, Mr. Campbell became a touring member of the band in late 1964, when its leader, Brian Wilson, decided to leave the road to concentrate on writing and recording. He remained a Beach Boy into the first few months of 1965.

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  1. 1.

    gbear

    August 8, 2017 at 8:50 pm

    And he was a great studio guitarist with The Wrecking Crew that performed on so many hit records in the 60’s.

  2. 2.

    A Ghost to Most

    August 8, 2017 at 8:52 pm

    Great talent. I was a fan in my yoot, before I grew to dislike Nashville country.

  3. 3.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 8:55 pm

    Beach Boys & Glen Campbell – Guess I´m Dumb

  4. 4.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 8:56 pm

    Glen Campbell, Session Man: Remember the Music Icon with These 10 Hits You Didn’t Know He Played On

  5. 5.

    ? Martin

    August 8, 2017 at 8:57 pm

    No front page on the passing of Haruo Nakajima? Certainly a greater cultural impact, and extremely topical given international events.

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    PhoenixRising

    August 8, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    Nanci Griffith’s homage to Glen Campbell, Last Train Home, is a fine obituary and salute to a real picker’s picker.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbZ_IY1sqwg

  7. 7.

    phein55

    August 8, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    The Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour:

    Ray Charles
    Linda Ronstadt
    The Beatles (!)
    The Monkees
    The Osmonds
    Lily Tomlin
    Waylon Jennings
    The Righteous Brothers
    The Smothers Brothers (of course!)
    Three Dog Night

    I don’t know who else. I remember watching with my Dad, who was a big Smothers Brothers fan, for whom Glen started out as the summer replacement, if I recall correctly.

  8. 8.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    @phein55: Cream

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY-aAYl259k

  9. 9.

    Mike J

    August 8, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    @gbear:

    And he was a great studio guitarist with The Wrecking Crew that performed on so many hit records in the 60’s.

    Carol Kaye at the beginning of Wichita Lineman MAKES that song.

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    Flanders' Other Neighbor

    August 8, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    I’m partial to the Johnny Cash version, personally.

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    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 9:03 pm

    I think Wichita Lineman is one of the most perfect pop songs ever. The lyrics, arrangement, production and Campbell’s poignant plaintive vocals are just beautiful. Brings back lots of memories, too. RIP Glenn Campbell. I always loved his voice.

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    NotMax

    August 8, 2017 at 9:03 pm

    At one time while in school used his syndicated TV show as an alarm clock.

    Would often set myself down for a very late afternoon siesta. After the local and network news – even with the TV volume on low – his ebullient opening exclamation of “Hi! I’m Glen Campbell” would instantly jolt me awake in time to still get to the dining hall for dinner.

  13. 13.

    A Ghost to Most

    August 8, 2017 at 9:03 pm

    @? Martin:

    Haruo Nakajima

    One man’s cultural icon
    Is another man’s WTF, I guess.
    Glen Campbell was an icon to me.

  14. 14.

    Doug!

    August 8, 2017 at 9:04 pm

    @Kathleen:

    I think Wichita Lineman is maybe the best radio song ever.

  15. 15.

    piratedan

    August 8, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    @? Martin:

    here ya go, best I can do…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GtTyC53kjU

  16. 16.

    germy

    August 8, 2017 at 9:08 pm

    Glen Campbell – William Tell Overture

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    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:08 pm

    This outa piss ya’ll off
    Cassandra Wilson – Wichita Lineman
    Beautiful version.

  18. 18.

    NotMax

    August 8, 2017 at 9:10 pm

    @Doug!

    Up, Up and Away (in My Beautiful Balloon).

    If radio didn’t already exist, it would have been invented to play that (again and again and again).

  19. 19.

    A Ghost to Most

    August 8, 2017 at 9:11 pm

    @Kathleen:
    My son and I both consider Van Morrison’s ‘Into The Mystic’ the best pop song, but Wichita was a great song.

  20. 20.

    OldDave

    August 8, 2017 at 9:12 pm

    Campbell’s signature song – Gentle on My Mind – was written by John Hartford. Here are the two of them.

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    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 9:12 pm

    @Doug!: I think Wichita Lineman and Jackie Wilson’s Higher and Higher are tied for #1.

  22. 22.

    frosty

    August 8, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    One of the football players in my high school got elected to the All-County team the year the song came out, so of course he went through the halls singing “I am a lineman for the County …”

  23. 23.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    Loved Glen Campbell. Didn’t love him at the RNC in 1980, though.

  24. 24.

    Schlemazel

    August 8, 2017 at 9:15 pm

    Inoffensive pop. I enjoyed his work well enough but he was a much better musician than his hits would indicate.

    I got interested in Brian WIlson’s insanity a few years back (though I have to say I HATE the Beach Boys) so I knew he fronted for them for 6 months. REally the guy was an unbelievable musical talent but I do not see him having the sort of legacy his skill should have left.

    His partnership with Jim Webb produced a lot of very listenable tunes

  25. 25.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 9:15 pm

    @OldDave:
    Love John Hartford! I guess I adapted to St. Louis pretty well. He’s much beloved here.

  26. 26.

    ? Martin

    August 8, 2017 at 9:15 pm

    @A Ghost to Most: You do a global survey of whether people have heard of Glen Campbell or Godzilla, and it won’t even be close.

    Not to take anything away from Glen Campbell, but kaiju and specifically Godzilla is one of the greatest Japanese cultural exports.

  27. 27.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    @A Ghost to Most:
    Into the Mystic….my favorite song of all time. I have written instructions that it is to be played at my funeral.

  28. 28.

    Barbara

    August 8, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    @Kathleen: I believe I was 8 years old when I first heard it and even at 8 that yearning covered a lot of ground to reach me in my little suburban house. Melissa by the Allman Brothers holds the same place in my heart. Just great songs both.

  29. 29.

    Schlemazel

    August 8, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    @? Martin:
    given the great cultural gifts Japan has to offer that is very sad

  30. 30.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    Thank you for this thread. Rachel Maddow is very intense. Not sure I can take her tonight.

    Need diversion.

  31. 31.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    @Barbara: Melissa….great song!??

  32. 32.

    A Ghost to Most

    August 8, 2017 at 9:21 pm

    @? Martin: Probably. But as a member of the target demo for Redneck Revolt, Glen Campbell was early soundtrack for me.

    Different strokes.

  33. 33.

    TenguPhule

    August 8, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    motherfuckers I’m fat I’m perfectly happy with my watermelon as is and all you skinny healthy people are telling me to eat it with salt

    John Cole is upset about being lectured on how to eat a watermelon.

  34. 34.

    TenguPhule

    August 8, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    @Schlemazel:

    given the great cultural gifts Japan has to offer that is very sad

    Giant rubber suit monsters crashing through cardboard city sets are one of those things that makes life worth living.

  35. 35.

    A Ghost to Most

    August 8, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    @Quinerly:
    Just writing about it made me put it on the stereo, and crank it.

    Eta. If I had a funeral, it would have been played

    If they have a wake, it must be played, along with some other songs.

  36. 36.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    @Barbara: I was in high school when Wichita Lineman hit. Allman Brothers and Melissa – yes! Love the Allman Brothers.

  37. 37.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:25 pm

    @Quinerly: Just be thankful there wasn’t an oil spill somewhere.

  38. 38.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2017 at 9:25 pm

    @TenguPhule: Does he put sugar on it?

  39. 39.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    @A Ghost to Most: I will have to check that out. I really like Van Morrison (fellow Irish person and all) and so versatile.

  40. 40.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    @Kathleen: That would be Sweet Melissa.

  41. 41.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    @Kathleen: Check Snow in San Anselmo

  42. 42.

    A Ghost to Most

    August 8, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    @Kathleen:
    Jessica! Another wake song.

    Also Little Martha

  43. 43.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    @raven:
    I’m settling down. She was a bit intense there in the beginning. What would Corner Stone say?

  44. 44.

    Caphilldcne

    August 8, 2017 at 9:30 pm

    When my dad was stationed in Germany we’d go to the in base grill and sing along to country tunes and I can still remember singing rhinestone cowboy. My first dose of adult disillusionment. Ghost riders in the sky was my fave tho.

  45. 45.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 9:30 pm

    @raven: Well I’m old as hell and can’t remember squat. Heading to St. Paul for my 50th high school reunion in September and it’s sobering.

  46. 46.

    Schlemazel

    August 8, 2017 at 9:33 pm

    @Kathleen:
    Governor here still a couple years away from 50. WHat school did you graduate from?

  47. 47.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    @Kathleen: Mine too, the 16th. I’m going even though I got my GED in Korea 5 months before the class graduated. When I was up there last year one of my buddies said “you are the last motherfucker we thought would have a doctorate”. Fuckin right dawg.

  48. 48.

    Mnemosyne

    August 8, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    Who the hell is telling him to eat watermelon with salt? You eat pineapple with salt to enhance the sweetness, not watermelon.

  49. 49.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    @Quinerly: It would be ok if you just dropped that line of conversation.

  50. 50.

    SFBayAreaGal

    August 8, 2017 at 9:36 pm

    @NotMax: 5th Dimension sang it.

  51. 51.

    MomSense

    August 8, 2017 at 9:36 pm

    @Quinerly:

    Love Into the Mystic.

  52. 52.

    A Ghost to Most

    August 8, 2017 at 9:37 pm

    @Kathleen:
    You might need to get in line to be old here.

    I’m so old I can remember when Steve Doocey wasn’t a slobbering fascist, and I think I’m well down the list

  53. 53.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 9:38 pm

    @raven: Thank you. That was amazing. I will have to become more acquainted with his music. Also enjoyed the comments, especially this one:

    Simon Ambrose Now that you mention it Simon, hard not to associate the symbolism of this wonderful song with that of the concluding lines of the great short story “The Dead” by that other magnificent Irish genius, James Joyce: “His soul swooned slowly as he heard the snow falling faintly through the universe and faintly falling, like the descent of their last end, upon all the living and the dead.”

    The song and the Joyce quotation gave me chills. I loved “The Dead”.

  54. 54.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 9:40 pm

    @A Ghost to Most:
    Seen Van twice…both times at NOLA Jazz and Heritage Festival. Great shows…first one was around 95 or 96. He was carrying way too much weight, hot NOLA spring heat, head to toe in black. Closing out the old Ray Ban stage…he struggled through the 90 min show but the encore was Into the Mystic. I had been drinking beer and eating all day in the sun. My boyfriend at the time and I ended up hanging right at the stage with some local chicks who had smuggled in a strong sangria (at 9 in the morning, it was 5 when we met them). Long story short, baked in the sun sangria will rock a gal’s gypsy soul.? Love me some Van. Checkout his country album from a few years ago….”Pay the Devil.” The duets album is great too. New album out in September.?

  55. 55.

    NotMax

    August 8, 2017 at 9:41 pm

    @TenguPhule

    A favorite scene from anime (~5:15 – 6:20).

    Nasty, nasty (and unforgettable) little kid.

  56. 56.

    MomSense

    August 8, 2017 at 9:41 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    Have you tried pepper pineapple? I sprinkle pineapple rings with fresh pepper and sauté both sides in a little butter in a non stick skillet. Put in a bowl with some really good vanilla ice cream and then drizzle the caramelized pineapple juice from the pan over the top of the ice cream.

  57. 57.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:41 pm

    @Kathleen: Hard Nose the Highway isn’t one of his most popular works but I’ve always like it. It may have to do with the fact that I saw him at the Lion’s Share in San Anselmo on my 1st honeymoon. People my like Into the Mystic bit THIS is my Van Morrison

    Mystic Eyes

  58. 58.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 8, 2017 at 9:42 pm

    @Kathleen:
    @raven:

    I had my 50th HS reunion in 2010. Unfortunately, the two or three people I really wanted to see ended up not coming that year. Hoping for better luck for the 60th in 2020.

  59. 59.

    NotMax

    August 8, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    @SFBayAreaGal

    Yes, they did. Was bringing it up as a response to “best radio song.”

  60. 60.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    van and jim morrison at the Whiskey, 1966.

  61. 61.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    @Schlemazel: St. Joseph’ Academy in St. Paul. All girls’ Catholic high school which closed in 1971. I believe it was the oldest private school in the state – the Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondelet founded the school in 1851. James Hill’s future wife was a graduate. The Sisters of St. Joseph now use the facility to do community service/social justice work. A St. Joseph nun (not from my school) was arrested in the early 90’s for protesting at Fort Benning SOA when she was in her 70’s. I’m not a practicing Catholic but I love those nuns.

  62. 62.

    Schlemazel

    August 8, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    @raven:
    High School fails a lot of very bright, talented people for a lot of reasons. The shame is more folks do not overcome being failed. Nice to hear you did. I had no idea you had a PhD. What is it in?

  63. 63.

    Shana

    August 8, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    @gbear: There’s a great documentary of The Wrecking Crew too. Very informative and fun.

  64. 64.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 8, 2017 at 9:45 pm

    @Quinerly:
    @raven:

    I think it’s funny.

  65. 65.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 9:45 pm

    @raven: Ha! Where did you go to high school?

  66. 66.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 9:46 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I think he tweeted that skinny people were telling him to use salt on his watermelon. It did not sit well with him.

  67. 67.

    NotMax

    August 8, 2017 at 9:46 pm

    @Mnemosyne

    No secret here that I despise the taste of salt. The sole exception is sprinkling a little on watermelon.

  68. 68.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 9:46 pm

    @NotMax: Love that song. Loved the Fifth Dimension.

  69. 69.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:47 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Yea, I mean I saw many of the people I wanted to at my friend’s memorial up there last September. There are about 50 people going to this and, while I recognize the names, I wasn’t really close with any of them. I was a bit of an oddball in that I hung out and even dated girls in the class of 66 and then went into the green machine that year. I just figure, what the hell, it probably won’t happen again and I do feel like I dug myself out of a really shitty situation there and I’m happy the way things turned out.

  70. 70.

    Felanius Kootea

    August 8, 2017 at 9:47 pm

    RIP. Heard and loved Cassandra Wilson’s cover of Wichita Lineman before I even knew about the original.

  71. 71.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:47 pm

    @Kathleen: Chicago burbs, Willowbrook in Villa Park.

  72. 72.

    Mnemosyne

    August 8, 2017 at 9:47 pm

    @MomSense:

    I have not, but it sounds interesting. I tend to steer away from black pepper-based dishes because G grew up in one of those Midwestern homes where the only spice his mom knew about was black pepper, so she used a lot of it.

  73. 73.

    A Ghost to Most

    August 8, 2017 at 9:48 pm

    @Quinerly:
    Thanks for the tips. Right now I have been absorbing Jason Isbell’s Nashville Sound, and hope to see him at Red Rocks in September. Amazing songwriter.

  74. 74.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 9:48 pm

    @A Ghost to Most: I’m so old I don’t remember remembering Steve Doocy. What was he prior to being a Fascist toady?

  75. 75.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:48 pm

    @Felanius Kootea: She’s awesome and catches grief for some of the songs she covers. Who else would cover the Monkees!!!!

  76. 76.

    NotMax

    August 8, 2017 at 9:49 pm

    @Kathleen

    The Dead is a perennial on the personal list of Xmas movies.

  77. 77.

    Schlemazel

    August 8, 2017 at 9:49 pm

    @Kathleen:
    Ah, St. Joes. Many are cold, few are frozen.

    The Mother Church is a mixed bag. When they were put upon they were very liberal and today some of that still survived.

    I went out with a girl who went to Murray, she told some horror stories about things she was told by the nuns there. “never go on a date to a restaurant with white table cloths because it reminds boys of bed sheets.” “Never wear patent leather shoes because boys will look for the reflections of your panties”

  78. 78.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    @NotMax: Oh, THAT Dead.

  79. 79.

    sharl

    August 8, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    Guess I’m Dumb (1965) – 3:20 (cut off abruptly at end, alas) – with Brian Wilson on keyboard.
    From Wikipedia, it was written by Brian Wilson and Russ Titelman for Campbell.

  80. 80.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:51 pm

    @Schlemazel: EdD in Adult Education. Actually my dissertation was a qualitative study of GED grads. Why they quit, why they went back and the sense they made of the process.

  81. 81.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 9:52 pm

    @raven: OK. I am going to have to much more familiar with Van Morrison.

  82. 82.

    Mnemosyne

    August 8, 2017 at 9:52 pm

    @Kathleen:

    I’m not getting what the connection is between skinny people and salted watermelon, but it’s been that kind of day. They’re doing major construction on the roof at my office and the smell of whatever sealant or other chemicals they were using gave me a mild migraine. Ugh.

  83. 83.

    Barbara

    August 8, 2017 at 9:53 pm

    @Quinerly: Van Morrison grew up as a Seventh Day Adventist in Northern Ireland and so was an outsider to both sides of the sectarian disputes in that land. His uncle or father had what was for that time a true rarity, a huge collection of American blues recordings. Before record stores all went out of existence I was wondering through and decided to buy a Van Morrison two set album called Hymns to the Silence. I could listen to that all day, every day. I used to play it when I worked late until they took my CD player away.

  84. 84.

    Schlemazel

    August 8, 2017 at 9:54 pm

    @raven:
    WOW! What a great topic for you! That is not only relevant to you but a topic that deserves attention. Nice work

  85. 85.

    Mike J

    August 8, 2017 at 9:54 pm

    @raven:

    Who else would cover the Monkees!!!!

    The Sex Pistols

  86. 86.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 9:54 pm

    @raven: Did you know you would be going into the service when you graduated? I cannot imagine what it would have been like to know I could be sent into that war.

    ETA And congratulations on your Doctorate.

  87. 87.

    Baud

    August 8, 2017 at 9:54 pm

    My mother put salt on watermelon. She said it made it taste sweeter.

  88. 88.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:55 pm

    @Kathleen: Truth be told I understand that he’s a real asshole. Doesn’t diminish his music but that’s the deal.

    Who can I turn to
    When no body needs me
    My heart wants to go
    So I must know
    Where my destiny leads me

  89. 89.

    q

    August 8, 2017 at 9:56 pm

    OMG…OT,

    @DrJillStein
    Urgent. Prevent WWIII. Flood the White House switchboard now: Negotiate don’t escalate with North Korea! 202-456-1414

    Sure maybe people will call, but still…but fuqqqqq you Jill!

  90. 90.

    Shana

    August 8, 2017 at 9:56 pm

    @Kathleen: I just went to my 40th. Really nice to see the small group of friends I actually wanted to see. Very interesting to see what everyone had done with their lives, even the ones I didn’t hang with. Although I had an unfortunate discussion with a woman who’s married to someone who is, or was, an exec at News Corp (Fox) who went on and on about how Murdoch remembered her name after only having met her once before. It took all I had to not go off on how much he’s debased civic society etc. over the years. And this was after I told her I’m a democratic precinct captain at home and have been for the last 10 years. Pleasantly surprised to have so many people talk about how awful Trump is and how much they’re doing to resist.

    For a little context, I grew up in a smallish midwestern community that was largely union factory workers – John Deere is headquartered in the area, International Harvester used to have a good sized factory. Nice to see that so many of the children of those workers are still democrats.

  91. 91.

    trollhattan

    August 8, 2017 at 9:56 pm

    @raven:
    “Mystic Eyes” is a nearly perfect pop song and one of the all-time great breakout songs, up there with “Break on Through” and “Precious.”

  92. 92.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    @Kathleen: I didn’t graduate, the judge gave me my choice between jail and the Army. I went in on my 17th birthday and went to Korea and then Vietnam. Now I have to go to bed!!!

  93. 93.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    @Barbara:
    I still listen to Hymns to the Silence. Great CDs. My once a month Sunday listening…especially in the winter. I think I have everything Van has done…vinyl in highschool and college…CDs later. And, yes, I still buy vinyl and CDs.?

  94. 94.

    raven

    August 8, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    @Shana: Peoria

  95. 95.

    trollhattan

    August 8, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    @Baud:
    Dad did too. Dad smoked.

  96. 96.

    Barbara

    August 8, 2017 at 9:58 pm

    @Baud: My husband tells me that salt on melon and sugar on tomatoes is true Southern and I tell him I’m not.

  97. 97.

    Schlemazel

    August 8, 2017 at 9:58 pm

    @Mike J:
    My youngest was in a semi-successful metal band. They used to cover “Come On Get Happy” By the Partridge Family. Many of these covers are meant to be ironic

  98. 98.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 9:59 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I’ve not kept in touch since the fall after graduation my parents moved to Cincinnati and I attended school in Portland, Oregon. I moved so much as a kid that I’ve not been good at all in cultivating connections. However, I’m very excited because I’m also going to see 2 of my second cousins whom I’ve not seen since the early 1960’s. One lives in Minneapolis and the other lives in Wyoming and she’s coming to visit her sister so we will be getting together.

  99. 99.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 9:59 pm

    @Baud:
    I put salt on watermelon. Old school Southern. Salt and pepper on cantaloupe.❤

  100. 100.

    Mike J

    August 8, 2017 at 10:00 pm

    @Schlemazel: Really?

  101. 101.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 8, 2017 at 10:00 pm

    @raven:

    To the extent I had friends in high school (I was a bit of a recluse and not by any stretch what you would call “popular”), I was just as likely to be close to people from the Class of ’59 or Class of ’61 as from my own Class of ’60. But I don’t get invited to their reunions, and am in touch with only one of them. (Have kept up friendships with several from my own cohort.)

    The way things turn out is … the way things turn out. Looking back at all the choices and decisions, it seems inevitable to be here, now.

  102. 102.

    Shana

    August 8, 2017 at 10:01 pm

    @raven: That sounds really interesting. Phds are sometimes so specialized that no one outside the area can understand what they’re about, but yours sounds good for a fairly well educated layperson.

  103. 103.

    OldDave

    August 8, 2017 at 10:01 pm

    @Quinerly: If you love John Hartford, take his advice on record care.

  104. 104.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 10:01 pm

    @NotMax: I need to see that. I also need to re-read The Dead.

  105. 105.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 10:01 pm

    @A Ghost to Most:
    That should be a fantastic show! ?

  106. 106.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 8, 2017 at 10:02 pm

    @Quinerly:

    Don’t particularly care for watermelon. I find it boring, but less so with salt. And always salt on cantaloupe, which I love. Have never used pepper on either, though.

  107. 107.

    Shana

    August 8, 2017 at 10:03 pm

    @raven: Nope, Rock Island – one of the Quad Cities. Not too far away though.

  108. 108.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 10:03 pm

    @raven:
    I guess you know how I worry. Well, probably not.?

  109. 109.

    Mnemosyne

    August 8, 2017 at 10:04 pm

    @Schlemazel:

    G knows a librarian who was in a band that was successful enough to get a record deal, but fell apart shortly afterwards. The guy took part of his money from the contract and went to library school at UCLA with it.

  110. 110.

    Schlemazel

    August 8, 2017 at 10:04 pm

    @Mike J:
    Yes, they were doing “I’ve got a lovely bunch of coconuts” but were not getting the reaction they wanted. I actually suggested ‘Get Happy’ since they were all too young to remember it. It was a big hit & they sold a bunch of CDs based on it

  111. 111.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 8, 2017 at 10:04 pm

    @Baud:

    My mother put salt on watermelon. She said it made it taste sweeter.

    Salt is ironic that way.

  112. 112.

    Yarrow

    August 8, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    I always liked “Rhinestone Cowboy.” And “Wichita Lineman” is a great, great song. RIP.

  113. 113.

    Schlemazel

    August 8, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    better use than hookers and blow

  114. 114.

    Bobby Thomson

    August 8, 2017 at 10:06 pm

    Also the cover of Southern Skies.

  115. 115.

    NotMax

    August 8, 2017 at 10:07 pm

    @Kathleen

    John Huston’s last film. He went out at the top of his game. Wikipedia:

    John Huston’s final film is an adaptation of the classic short story by James Joyce. This may have been one of Huston’s most personal films, due to his citizenship in Ireland and his passion for classic literature. Huston directed most of the film from a wheelchair, as he needed an oxygen tank to breathe during the last few months of his life. The film was nominated for two Academy Awards, and was praised by critics. Roger Ebert eventually placed it in his Great Movies list; a section of movies he claims to be some of the best ever made. Huston died nearly four months before the film’s release date. In the 1996 RTE documentary John Huston: An t-Éireannach, Anjelica said that “it was very important for my father to make that film.” She contends that Huston did not think that it was going to be his last film, but that it was his love letter to Ireland and the Irish.

  116. 116.

    A Ghost to Most

    August 8, 2017 at 10:07 pm

    @Kathleen:
    As far as I can remember with advanced CRS, he started in Buffalo as the clown guy on tv, then in DC, before going full fascist on the network that shall not be named. Family in WNY; lived in Maryland way too long.

  117. 117.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 10:08 pm

    @Schlemazel: Murray was on “my side of town”. I was the only one from Blessed Sacrament (East side of St Paul) to go across town to SJA (more west side of town). We got a little bid of that but only from a couple of the older nuns. I had some brilliant teachers, both nuns and lay people. When I look back at that era (1963 to 1967) I marvel at how lucky I was to be in an environment that encouraged me to develop all of my talents and my mind and prepare me for college. There were some very talented and bright young women in my class, 5 of whom went down to Mississippi the summer of 1966 to help in a school I believe. I thought my freshman year in college was easy compared to St. Joe’s to be honest. It was that rigorous. I treasure that time (though I rebelled sometimes!). It wasn’t all about getting married.

  118. 118.

    frosty

    August 8, 2017 at 10:09 pm

    My dad taught us to put salt on watermelon, so I thought it was a Long Island thing (Bellerose and Huntington Harbor).

  119. 119.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 10:09 pm

    @OldDave:
    He’s so great. So underappreciated. I regret never seeing him live. Same regrets re Townes.? Never had the opportunity re Hartford. Could have seen TVZ but turned down the tickets.

  120. 120.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 10:10 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I understand. I just skimmed the tweet and it was pretty funny.I hope you feel better!

  121. 121.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2017 at 10:11 pm

    @Quinerly:

    Could have seen TVZ but turned down the tickets.

    smh

  122. 122.

    SFBayAreaGal

    August 8, 2017 at 10:11 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I put salt on my watermelon and I love it.

  123. 123.

    A Ghost to Most

    August 8, 2017 at 10:11 pm

    @Kathleen:
    Glad to hear. Van Morrison is a deity in the pop and rock pantheon.

  124. 124.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 10:12 pm

    @frosty:
    Big in the south. Maybe no so much now but I remember church picnics, church homecomings in the 1960’s…everyone salted watermelon.

  125. 125.

    Mnemosyne

    August 8, 2017 at 10:12 pm

    This just popped into my head: when is the MSM going to start whining about “Trump fatigue” the way they complained about “Clinton fatigue”? God knows I’m sick of having to think about the fucker, and it’s only been 7 months since he was inaugurated.

    If I didn’t live in a midnight-blue part of CA where even the old white guys hate Trump, I probably would have had a nervous breakdown by now.

  126. 126.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 10:12 pm

    @raven: My dad was in radio so he met quite a few stars in his day so I didn’t have too many illusions about that growing up!

  127. 127.

    q

    August 8, 2017 at 10:13 pm

    reading an lurking on this tread mostly. Sorry, but the only Glen Campbell song I think I know is Rhinestone Cowboy.

  128. 128.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    August 8, 2017 at 10:13 pm

    @A Ghost to Most: Isn’t he though? We saw him on the Southeastern your and had 2d row pit seats bought 2 weeks before the show. On the tour behind Something More than Free the same venue was sold out within the week of sales opening. We were given balcony seats as a gift, so we saw that. Mr. Q got me Nashville Sound, but I admit I haven’t listened to it yet.

    I’m even more embarrassed that I don’t have Poor David’s Almnack, the new Dave Rawlings Machine album yet. We may go down to Louisville next week to see them again – well worth the drive.

    @Quinerly: Always salt on watermelon!

  129. 129.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 10:14 pm

    @Shana: I’ve kept in touch with two classmates, both of whom have remained staunch Democrats. Not sure about the other women so I guess I’ll find out!

  130. 130.

    Yarrow

    August 8, 2017 at 10:15 pm

    I recently stopped into a Whole Foods and they were offering samples a watermelon salad made with watermelon (duh), feta (which was fairly salty) and mint. It was yummy.

  131. 131.

    BruceFromOhio

    August 8, 2017 at 10:15 pm

    @Mike J: This is why I read this blog every day.

  132. 132.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 10:17 pm

    @NotMax: Thank you. The story about Houston is as powerful as the story itself.

  133. 133.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 10:18 pm

    @A Ghost to Most: What an awful little man he is. Figures he started as a clown.

  134. 134.

    SFBayAreaGal

    August 8, 2017 at 10:18 pm

    @Quinerly: I put salt on watermelon, cantaloupe, and tomatoes

  135. 135.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2017 at 10:18 pm

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho:

    Always salt on watermelon!

    Take it up with Cole.

  136. 136.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2017 at 10:20 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Or not.

  137. 137.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    August 8, 2017 at 10:20 pm

    @Quinerly: ZOMG! I wish I’d had that chance. Gillian Welch talked about moving to NAshville and how it was like seeing her record collection come to life – Townes, John Hartford, Guy Clark, they’d be out around town “and they came to your gigs.” I think it was her introduction speech for the Townes ACL HoF induction (which was long overdue, imo).

    @Omnes Omnibus: I know, right? Maybe way too many pschotropic drugs that day? No other explanation comes to mind, for an otherwise clearly sensible person, judging by comments here.

    @Kathleen: I haven’t forgotten you! I’ve been working in Dayton, so my energy is low.

  138. 138.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2017 at 10:21 pm

    @Kathleen: Sometimes I encourage discord.

  139. 139.

    SFBayAreaGal

    August 8, 2017 at 10:22 pm

    @Shana: My sisters and brother were born in Rock Island.

  140. 140.

    Barbara

    August 8, 2017 at 10:22 pm

    @Mnemosyne: The former lead singer of the Brooklyn Bridge later became insurance commissioner then governor of Missouri — Jay Angoff.

  141. 141.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    But as a tiny child in the 1960’s I got to see Hendrix open for the Monkees in Greensboro, NC. I was nuts about Mickey (all the other little girls in my class loved Davy) couldn’t wait for the show. Hendrix was a blur. I was 6. Still have the program. A prized possession.

  142. 142.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 8, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Or discourage accord.

  143. 143.

    lamh36

    August 8, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    reading an lurking on this tread mostly. Sorry, but the only Glen Campbell song I think I know is Rhinestone Cowboy

  144. 144.

    AnonPhenom

    August 8, 2017 at 10:24 pm

    @Shana:
    @gbear:
    @Mike J:
    The Wrecking Crew … a must see for fans of that era’s music.

  145. 145.

    OldDave

    August 8, 2017 at 10:24 pm

    @Quinerly:

    I regret never seeing him live. Same regrets re Townes.

    Sadly, regretfully, I never saw either, either. On the other hand, I’ve seen John Prine in concert several times, and Mark Knopfler twice (including at the Fabulous Fox), so I guess I can die happy.

  146. 146.

    A Ghost to Most

    August 8, 2017 at 10:25 pm

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho:
    I’ve been a big fan of Isbell since his drunken DBT days. His song writing, always impressive, got better when he sobered up.
    The Nashville Sound contains some excellent songs: ‘Tupelo’ is a favorite, and ‘White Mans’ World’ takes a LARGE swing at white privilege.

  147. 147.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2017 at 10:25 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I would never…

  148. 148.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 10:28 pm

    @OldDave:
    Prine…at least 5 or 6 times. Knopfler (who might be my very favorite musician) NEVER. I have to act my act together on that one.

  149. 149.

    AnonPhenom

    August 8, 2017 at 10:28 pm

    Movie trailer here

  150. 150.

    SFBayAreaGal

    August 8, 2017 at 10:28 pm

    My favorite song by Glen Campbell is By the Time I Get to Phoenix

  151. 151.

    Felanius Kootea

    August 8, 2017 at 10:30 pm

    @raven: I think she has a great sense of humor in re-imagining songs and talent of course.

  152. 152.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 8, 2017 at 10:30 pm

    @SFBayAreaGal:

    The Rock Island Line is a mighty good road
    The Rock Island Line is the road to ride
    The Rock Island Line is a mighty good road
    If you want to ride you gotta ride it like you find it
    Get your ticket at the station for the Rock Island Line

  153. 153.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2017 at 10:31 pm

    @lamh36: FWIW that is the only one that sticks in my head. I know the names of some of the other songs mentioned in the thread, but the title connects with nothing in my head. There is Galveston, though; you may have heard it too. Generally, country music isn’t my thing.

  154. 154.

    The Lodger

    August 8, 2017 at 10:32 pm

    @Yarrow: It also works with cotija, if you don’t have feta.

  155. 155.

    A Ghost to Most

    August 8, 2017 at 10:34 pm

    @Quinerly:
    A guy I work with saw John Prine at Red Rocks a couple weeks ago, and said he still put on a great, long show, with all his medical problems

  156. 156.

    Schlemazel

    August 8, 2017 at 10:35 pm

    @Kathleen:
    I had a very hard time justifying the two different Catholic Churches, one so nututining ang encouraging and one so stiffeling and prohibitive.

    St. Pats was a couple blocks from my house but most of the kids that went there went to St. Bernard’s rather than Hill. Hill was for the rich kids

  157. 157.

    A Ghost to Most

    August 8, 2017 at 10:36 pm

    @Quinerly:
    Agree about Knopfler; a true guitar deity.

  158. 158.

    Schlemazel

    August 8, 2017 at 10:38 pm

    @OldDave:
    Really would love to see Prine but am not aware of his ever having been by the tundra

  159. 159.

    Shana

    August 8, 2017 at 10:39 pm

    @SFBayAreaGal: Interesting. I rarely run into anyone who doesn’t confuse it with Rockford. I took a tour of the high school as part of the reunion. I’d been totally unaware that the high school had been built as a WPA project and had all these amazing art deco details. There’s a Little Theatre that’s a text book definition of the style – curved walls in the theatre itself, circular ticket booth, it should be used as a set for a movie set during the time period.

    I have to say, having graduated in 1977, I was so glad to get out of the community, that I didn’t enjoy the setting at the time, but appreciate my youth there now that I’m grown. The freedom of having grown up in the 60s and 70s in a community like that is something my children could never have experienced. I tend to express it as benign neglect, we knew our boundaries, knew to be home for meals, otherwise were free to roam at will. Other than places like the community where John Cole lives, I’m not sure how many of those places are left nowadays.

  160. 160.

    OldDave

    August 8, 2017 at 10:40 pm

    @Quinerly: Sorry you missed the April 2010 ‘Get Lucky’ concert at the Fox. SWMBO and I also saw his last concert in the US on Halloween 2015. I’ve heard nothing about an upcoming album or tour. :-(

  161. 161.

    catclub

    August 8, 2017 at 10:41 pm

    @NotMax: Not exactly Xmas, but if you like The dead, you might like Ikiru by Kurosawa.

  162. 162.

    bmaccnm

    August 8, 2017 at 10:42 pm

    @? Martin: Then why don’t you produce a tribute to the man instead of being a snob and a scold?

  163. 163.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2017 at 10:42 pm

    @Shana: Rockford is nowhere near the Mississippi. It is known.

  164. 164.

    OldDave

    August 8, 2017 at 10:43 pm

    @Schlemazel: Current John Prine tour dates.

  165. 165.

    Inventor

    August 8, 2017 at 10:43 pm

    He had a song named “Kids” about a dad explaining to his children that he and their mother were splitting up and he won’t be living with them any more.

    It came out at almost the same time my own father made that announcement. I’ve never been able to listen to that song all the way through.

  166. 166.

    Shana

    August 8, 2017 at 10:43 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: True, but if you don’t know the area, you think of one rather than the other.

  167. 167.

    lamh36

    August 8, 2017 at 10:43 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: doesn’t ring a bell either. Country is definitely NOT my thing either. the occasional “country pop” songs I’ve heard of course…ya know “country-lite”, but deep banjo twanging country music…NOPE

  168. 168.

    A Ghost to Most

    August 8, 2017 at 10:44 pm

    159 comments, and nary a mention of the troubles. Nice. R&R.

  169. 169.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 10:45 pm

    @A Ghost to Most:
    He’s in the St. Louis area about once a year. Don’t hold me to that.. but I think so…at one time much more. The last time I saw him was a bit ago in Arkansas. Friend in Eureka Springs is a big fan. Always a good show. Great interaction with the audience

  170. 170.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2017 at 10:49 pm

    @lamh36: I know the music of Memphis better than that of Nashville. I suspect you do too. OTOH, some of the people being mentioned in this thread (Townes van Zandt, for example) wrote songs that would have worked as old school country blues. Angst, heartbreak, and booze…

  171. 171.

    ChrisGrrr

    August 8, 2017 at 10:50 pm

    @raven: Great link. I’d forgotten about his work with the Wrecking Crew… and then some. Hoo baby.

    Tnx!

  172. 172.

    Schlemazel

    August 8, 2017 at 10:50 pm

    @OldDave:
    JFC! $62.50 to sit in the last row of the balcony! this is gong to be painful

  173. 173.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2017 at 10:51 pm

    @Schlemazel: But you can do it. YOLO!

  174. 174.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 10:54 pm

    @OldDave:
    Does Knopfler have anything new out? I haven’t checked. I think Amazon is supposed to alert me. If you haven’t checked it out, take a listen to Knopfler and Van on Van’s 2015 Duets album…”Irish Heartbeat.” It’s actually a great album…Georgie Fame, Natalie Cole, Mavis Staples (love me some Mavis…she really should have married Dylan), Joss Stone, Taj, Stevie Winwood, and others…..

  175. 175.

    Amaranthine RBG

    August 8, 2017 at 10:55 pm

    @Schlemazel:
    He was touring with Jason Isbel and Amanda Shires a while ago. Fantastic show – saw it in two different cities.

  176. 176.

    OldDave

    August 8, 2017 at 10:56 pm

    @Schlemazel: Could be worse – the 2015 Knopfler tickets were well over $100 each. Last Prine concert we attended was $63, but closer than the nosebleed. Good luck. As Omnes says, YOLO!

  177. 177.

    trollhattan

    August 8, 2017 at 10:56 pm

    @raven: @Felanius Kootea:
    Saw Cassandra two or three years ago and she was as engaging and quirky as you’d expect, an exceptional and unique talent. Her group was straight up the best jazz band I’ve seen, and I’ve seen a lot of great jazz bands. Jeez.

  178. 178.

    OldDave

    August 8, 2017 at 10:57 pm

    @Quinerly: Latest album was “Tracker”, which was 2015. Nervous tapping of fingers….
    And yes, I need to look into the Van Morrison Duets album.

  179. 179.

    Villago Delenda Est

    August 8, 2017 at 10:58 pm

    “I am a lineman for the Army….”

    The 36C version of “Wichita Lineman” starts with this…

  180. 180.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2017 at 11:02 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Sigs…. smh. Just make the gorram radios work. Sorry, I started the Hummer with the radio switched on. I still need to talk to battalion, damn it.

  181. 181.

    Schlemazel

    August 8, 2017 at 11:03 pm

    @A Ghost to Most:
    “the troubles”? SHit, I thought Ierland had calmed the fuck down

  182. 182.

    dm

    August 8, 2017 at 11:04 pm

    @phein55: Yes, Glen started as a summer replacement for “The Smothers Brothers”.

    Then “The Prisoner” (the surreal Patrick McGoohan marvel) was summer replacement for the Glen Campbell show.

  183. 183.

    Schlemazel

    August 8, 2017 at 11:04 pm

    @OldDave:
    Oh we are going but at 82.50 @. Have to do it before retirement & Little Friskies is the soup de jour

  184. 184.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 11:11 pm

    @OldDave:
    Yep, got that one. If you like Van, check out Pay the Devil from a few years back. Old school Country like “There Stands the Glass” and “My Bucket’s Got a Hole in It” plus an original or two of his own tucked in for a surprise ( I was like…”who did that, where I have I heard that?” obviously, new but flows so well with the entire album.) Well produced album from about 10 years ago.

  185. 185.

    StringOnAStick

    August 8, 2017 at 11:16 pm

    @Quinerly: John Hartford was so great in person. I was fortunate to see him a couple of times as the headliner at the Telluride Bluegrass festival in the mid 1970’s, when it was still a small festival. Such a talented and interesting guy. I recall seeing him perform Gentle on my Mind on Glen Campbell’s show; he was a lot more comfortable with a live audience than TV but his TV performance really stuck with me because of how honest it was.

    In other news, my husband was chased by a bear on a local trail early Monday morning on a cloudy quiet day. They surprised each other and he looked up and saw a bear running ywards him from just a few feet away. My husband had to turn around and threaten several times to get it to back off, including hitting it on the nose several times with the raincoat he had in his hand. It was a juvenile bear and eventually it went up the hillside making a crying noise and obviously was looking for mom. This on a trail at the edge of Denver and usually full of runners and riders but the weather kept everyone out that morning. There is a stream along the trail and the wild raspberries are ripe right now so maybe that had something to do with it. My husband got away with a slightly sprained ankle; could have been a lot worse. I know there are people on this site who know this area, this was on Apex trail, just so they know.

  186. 186.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 8, 2017 at 11:25 pm

    @dm: Plenty of commenters here are fond of The Prisoner, IIRC.

    Be seeing you.

  187. 187.

    Waratah

    August 8, 2017 at 11:26 pm

    @germy: thank you for finding this

  188. 188.

    Quinerly

    August 8, 2017 at 11:28 pm

    @StringOnAStick:
    Scary business with your husband. So glad he is ok. Ice on that ankle. Thanks for sharing the Hartford story.

  189. 189.

    J R in WV

    August 8, 2017 at 11:35 pm

    Had no idea John Hartford wrote that song. He was a wonderful person, I got to see him in a tiny amphitheatre in a city park in Huntington many years ago, probably 2 or 300 people tops. He was solo, as so often, and worked on a plywood sheet with sand to softshoe sounds with. There was a mike pointed nearly straight down on the plywood.

  190. 190.

    A Ghost to Most

    August 8, 2017 at 11:37 pm

    @StringOnAStick: What trail, if I may ask?
    Mountain lions over my way, but no bears reported nearby. I hope your husband mends soon.

  191. 191.

    J R in WV

    August 8, 2017 at 11:48 pm

    @J R in WV:

    Also, wonder if there’s any way to know all the famous albums he appeared on as anonymous guitar genius on? Glen Campbell, I mean. I got distracted by Stephen Colbert’s opening tonight, which had an amazing take on Kim and Trump. I recommend it.

    G’night all…

  192. 192.

    Ben Cisco

    August 9, 2017 at 1:29 am

    Late to the thread, but I wanted to share this cover of Wichita Lineman by Eric Essix.

  193. 193.

    low-tech cyclist

    August 9, 2017 at 9:46 am

    Another Glen Campbell fan checking into the thread a bit late. “Wichita Lineman” is of course a song for the ages, more than enough to justify his musical career if he’d never done anything else. But that was far from his only good song. “Galveston,” “By the Time I Get to Phoenix,” “Gentle on My Mind,” “Try a Little Kindness”…good stuff.

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