Politico has published the transcript of the President’s remarks this afternoon from his impromptu question and answer with the press. I’d like to highlight this part before we get to the whole thing (emphasis mine):
REPORTER: Senator McCain defined them as the same group.
TRUMP: Okay, what about the alt-left that came charging at us – excuse me – what about the alt-left that came charging at the, as you say, the alt right? Do they have any semblance of guilt?
(Update at 6:2o PM EDT):
Politico has now updated their transcript, without further comment, notation, or explanation so that the section above now reads as:
REPORTER: Senator McCain defined them as the same group.
TRUMP: Okay, what about the alt-left that came charging at ’em – excuse me – what about the alt-left that came charging at the, as you say, the alt right? Do they have any semblance of guilt?
If they post an explanation, and I’m around, I’ll post it.
ETA at 6:10 PM EDT
Literally the easiest thing to do for an American politician or leader is to denounce NAZIs. The whole justification for American leadership in the global system is that we finally got our butts in gear in 1941 and defeated the purest, most unadulterated evil movement, NAZIism, during World War II. This us such a gimme it isn’t even the equivalent of a 3 inch put. The President’s inability to do this simple thing, while standing next to two two Jewish Americans (Gary Cohen and Stephen Mnuchin) and an Asian American (Elaine Chao) speaks volumes about him. The fact that none of those three didn’t resign immediately, even if they waited till they were all off camera so as not to make a scene, also speaks volumes about them.
The whole transcript after the jump updated at 6:20 PM EDT to reflect the revisions that Politico made to their transcript:
Full text: Trump’s comments on white supremacists, ‘alt-left’ in Charlottesville
The following is a transcript of President Donald Trump’s remarks at a news conference on infrastructure at Trump Tower on Aug. 15 and the Q&A with the media that followed.
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Hello, everybody. Great to be back in New York with all of our friends and some great friends outside the building, I must tell you. I want to thank all of our distinguished guests who are with us today, including the members of our cabinet: Treasury secretary Stephen Mnuchin and OMB Director Mick Mulvaney and the Transportation Secretary who is doing a fabulous job, Elaine Chao. Thank you all for doing a really incredible and creative job on what we’re going to be discussing today, which is infrastructure. We’ve just had a great set of briefings upstairs on our infrastructure agenda. My administration is working every day to deliver the world class infrastructure that our people deserve and frankly our country deserves. That’s why I just signed a new Executive Order to dramatically reform the nation’s badly broken infrastructure permitting process.
Just blocks away is the Empire State Building. It took 11 months to build the Empire State Building. But today it can take as long as a decade and much more than that. Many, many stories where it takes 20 and 25 years just to get approvals to start construction of a fairly routine highway. Highway builders must get up to 16 different approvals involving nine different federal agencies governed by 29 different statutes. One agency alone can stall a project for many, many years and even decades. Not only does this cost our economy billions of dollars, but it also denies our citizens the safe and modern infrastructure they deserve. This overregulated permitting process is a massive, self-inflicted wound on our country.
It’s disgraceful. Denying our people much needed investments in their community, and I just want to show you this, because it was just shown to me. I think I’m going to show it to the media – both real and fake media by the way. This is what it takes to get something approved today. Elaine, you see that? So this is what it takes, permitting process flow chart. That’s a flow chart. So that can go out to about 20 years, this shows about ten. But that can go out to about 20 years to get something approved. This is for a highway. I have seen a highway recently in a certain state – I won’t mention it’s name, it is 17 years. I could have built it for $4 million, $5 million without the permitting process. It costs hundreds of millions of dollars, but it took 17 years to get it approved and many, many, many, many pages of environmental impact studies. This is what we will bring it down to. This is less than two years. This is going to happen quickly, that’s what I’m signing today. This will be less than two years for a highway, so it’s going to be quick, it’s going to be a very streamlined process, and by the way, if it doesn’t meet environmental safeguards, we are not going to approve it – very simple. We’re not going to approve it. So this is – maybe this one will say, let’s throw the other one away. Would anybody like it from the media? Would anybody like that long, beautiful chart, you can have it.
So my Executive Order also requires agencies to work together efficiently by requiring one lead agency for each major infrastructure project. It also holds agencies accountable if they fail to streamline their review process, so each agency is accountable. We’re going to get infrastructure built quickly, inexpensively, relatively speaking and the permitting process will go very, very quickly. No longer will we tolerate one job killing delay after another. No longer will we accept a broken system that benefits consultants and lobbyists at the expense of hard working Americans. Now, I knew the process very well – probably better than anybody. I had to get permits for this building and many of the buildings I built. All of the buildings I built in Manhattan and many other places, and I will tell you that the consultants are rich people. They go around making it very difficult. They lobby congress, they lobby state government, city governments to make it very difficult so that you have to hire consultants and that you have to take years and pay them a fortune, so we’re streamlining the process, and we won’t be having so much of that anymore. No longer will we allow the infrastructure of our magnificent country to crumble and decay, while protecting the environment we will build gleaming new roads, bridges, railways, waterways, tunnels and highways.
We will rebuild our country with American workers, American iron, American aluminum, American steel. We will create millions of new jobs and make millions of American dreams come true. Our infrastructure will again be the best in the world. We used to have the greatest infrastructure anywhere in the world, and today, we are like a third-world country. We are literally like a third-world country. Our infrastructure will again be the best, and we will restore the pride in our communities, our nation. And all over the United States, we will be proud again, so I want to thank everybody for being here. God bless you, God bless the United States. If you have any questions, Mick, you could come up here, please. Come on up. Mick Mulvaney. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
REPORTER: Why are the CEOs leaving your manufacturing council?
TRUMP: Because they are not taking their job seriously as it pertains to this country. We want jobs, manufacturing in this country. If you look at some of those people that you are talking about, they are outside of the country. They are having a lot of their product made outside. If you look at Merck as an example, take a look where – excuse me, excuse me – take a look at where their product is made. It is made outside of our country. We want products made in the country, now I have to tell you, some of the folks that will leave, they’re leaving out of embarrassment, because they made their products outside, and I have been lecturing them, including the gentleman that you are referring to, about you have to bring it back to this country. You can’t do it necessarily in Ireland and all of these other places. You have to bring this work back to this country. That’s what I want. I want manufacturing to be back into the United States so that American workers can benefit.
REPORTER: Why did you wait so long to denounce neo-Nazis?
TRUMP: I didn’t wait long. I didn’t wait long. I didn’t wait long. I wanted to make sure, unlike most politicians, that what I said was correct, not make a quick statement. The statement I made on Saturday, the first statement, was a fine statement, but you don’t make statements that direct unless you know the fact. And it takes a little while to get the facts. You still don’t know the facts. And it is a very, very important process to me. It is a very important statement. So I don’t want to go quickly and just make a statement for the sake of making a political statement. I want to know the facts. If you go back to my statement, in fact I brought it. I brought it.
As I said on remember this, Saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence. It has no place in America. And then I went on from there. Now here is the thing. Excuse me, excuse me. Take it nice and easy. Here is the thing, when I make a statement, I like to be correct. I want the facts. This event just happened. A lot of the event didn’t happen yet as we were speaking. This event just happened. Before I make a statement, I need the facts, so I don’t want to rush into a statement. So making the statement when I made it was excellent. In fact, the young woman who I hear is a fantastic young woman and it was on NBC, her mother wrote me and said through I guess Twitter, social media, the nicest things, and I very much appreciated that. I hear she was a fine, really actually an incredible young woman, but her mother on Twitter, thanked me for what I said. Honestly, if the press were not fake and if it was honest, the press would have said what I said was very nice. – excuse me – unlike you and unlike the media, before I make a statement, I like to know the facts.
REPORTERS YELLING INDISTINCTLY
TRUMP: They didn’t, they didn’t. They don’t.
REPORTERS CONTINUE YELLING INDISTINCTLY
TRUMP: How about, how about, how about a couple of infrastructure questions.
REPORTER: Was that terrorism?
TRUMP: Say it, what?
REPORTER: The CEO of Walmart said you missed a critical opportunity to help bring the country together. Did you?
TRUMP: Not at all. I think the country — look, you take a look. I’ve created over a million jobs since I have been president. The country is booming, the stock market is setting record, we have the highest employment numbers we’ve ever had in the history of our country. We are doing record business. We have the highest levels of enthusiasm, so the head of Walmart, who I know, who’s a very nice guy, was making a political statement. I mean, I would do it the same way, you know why? Because I want to make sure when I make a statement that the statement is correct. And there was no way – no way – of making a correct statement that early. I had to see the facts, unlike a lot of reporters, unlike a lot of reporter.
I didn’t know David Duke was there. I wanted to see the facts. And the facts, as they started coming out, were very well-stated. In fact, everybody said his statement was beautiful. If he would have made it sooner, that would have been good. I couldn’t have made it sooner, because I didn’t know all of the facts. Frankly, people still don’t know all of the facts. It was very important – excuse me, excuse me. It was very important to me to get the facts out and correctly. Because if I would have made a fast statement and the first statement was made without knowing much other than what we were seeing. The second statement was made after it with knowledge, with great knowledge. There are still things – excuse me. There are still things that people don’t know. I want to make a statement with knowledge, I wanted to know the facts, okay.
REPORTER: Two questions: was this terrorism? And can you tell us how you are feeling about your Chief Strategist Steve Bannon?
TRUMP: I think the driver of the car is a disgrace to himself, his family and this country. And that is – you can call it terrorism, you can call it murder. You can call it whatever you want. I would just call it as the fastest one to come up with a good verdict. That’s what I’d call it. And there is a question. Is it murder? Is it terrorism? Then you get into legal semantics. The driver of the car is a murderer, and what he did was a horrible, horrible, inexcusable thing.
REPORTER: Can you tell us how you are feeling about your chief strategist, Mr. Bannon? Can you talk about that?
REPORTER: Steve Bannon —
TRUMP: I never spoke to Mr. Bannon about it.
REPORTER: Can you tell us broadly about – do you still have confidence in Steve?
TRUMP: Well, we’ll see. And look, look, I like Mr. Bannon. He is a friend of mine, but Mr. Bannon came on very late. You know that. I went through 17 senators, governors and I won all the primaries. Mr. Bannon came on very much later than that, and I like him. He is a good man. He is not a racist – I can tell you that. He is a good person, he actually gets very unfair press in that regard. We’ll see what happens with Mr. Bannon. He’s a good person, and I think the press treats him frankly very unfairly.
REPORTER: They have called on you to defend your national security adviser H.R. McMaster against these attacks.
TRUMP: I did that before. Senator McCain? Senator McCain. You mean the one that voted against Obamacare? Who is Senator McCain? You mean senator McCain who voted against us getting good health care?
REPORTER: Senator McCain said that the alt-right is behind these attacks, and he linked that same group to those that perpetrated the attack in Charlottesville.
TRUMP: Well, I don’t know. I can’t tell you. I’m sure Senator McCain must know what he is talking about, but when you say the alt-right, define alt-right to me. You define it. Go ahead. Define it for me, come on, let’s go.
REPORTER: Senator McCain defined them as the same group.
TRUMP: Okay, what about the alt-left that came charging at ’em – excuse me – what about the alt-left that came charging at the, as you say, the alt right? Do they have any semblance of guilt?
REPORTERS YELL INDISTINCTLY
TRUMP: What about this? What about the fact that they came charging – they came charging with clubs in their hands swinging clubs? Do they have any problem? I think they do.
REPORTERS YELL INDISTINCTLY
TRUMP: As far as I’m concerned, that was a horrible, horrible day. Wait a minute, I’m not finished. I’m not finished, fake news. That was a horrible day.
REPORTERS YELL INDISTINCTLY
TRUMP: I will tell you something. I watched those very closely, much more closely than you people watched it. And you had, you had a group on one side that was bad. And you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. And nobody wants to say that, but I’ll say it right now. You had a group – you had a group on the other side that came charging in without a permit, and they were very, very violent.
REPORTER: Do you think what you call the alt left is the same as neo-Nazis?
TRUMP: Those people – all of those people, excuse me – I’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups, but not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch.
REPORTER: Well, white nationalists –
TRUMP: Those people were also there, because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue Robert E. Lee. So – excuse me – and you take a look at some of the groups and you see, and you’d know it if you were honest reporters, which in many cases you’re not. Many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. So this week, it’s Robert E. Lee, I noticed that Stonewall Jackson’s coming down. I wonder, is it George Washington next week? And is it Thomas Jefferson the week after. You know, you really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop?
REPORTERS YELL INDISTINCTLY
TRUMP: But, they were there to protest – excuse me – you take a look the night before, they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. Infrastructure question. Go ahead.
REPORTER: Does the statue of Robert E. Lee stay up?
TRUMP: I would say that’s up to a local town, community or the federal government, depending on where it is located.
REPORTER: Are you against the Confederacy?
REPORTER: On race relations in America, do you think things have gotten worse or better since you took office with regard to race relationships?
TRUMP: I think they’ve gotten better or the same – look – they have been frayed for a long time, and you can ask President Obama about that, because he’d make speeches about it. I believe that the fact that I brought in, it will be soon, millions of jobs, you see where companies are moving back into our country. I think that’s going to have a tremendous positive impact on race relations. We have companies coming back into our country. We have two car companies that just announced. We have Foxconn in Wisconsin just announced. We have many companies, I’d say, pouring back into the country. I think that’s going to have a huge, positive impact on race relations. You know why? It is jobs. What people want now, they want jobs. They want great jobs with good pay. And when they have that, you watch how race relations will be. And I’ll tell you, we’re spending a lot of money on the inner cities – we are fixing the inner cities – we are doing far more than anybody has done with respect to the inner cities. It is a priority for me, and it’s very important.
REPORTER: Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?
TRUMP: I am not putting anybody on a moral plane, what I’m saying is this: you had a group on one side and a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs and it was vicious and horrible and it was a horrible thing to watch, but there is another side. There was a group on this side, you can call them the left. You’ve just called them the left, that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.
REPORTER: You said there was hatred and violence on both sides?
TRUMP: I do think there is blame – yes, I think there is blame on both sides. You look at, you look at both sides. I think there’s blame on both sides, and I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And, and, and, and if you reported it accurately, you would say.
REPORTER: The neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville.
TRUMP: Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.
REPORTER: George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same.
TRUMP: Oh no, George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down – excuse me. Are we going to take down, are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him? Okay, good. Are we going to take down his statue? He was a major slave owner. Are we going to take down his statue? You know what? It’s fine, you’re changing history, you’re changing culture, and you had people – and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally – but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats – you had a lot of bad people in the other group too.
REPORTER: I just didn’t understand what you were saying. You were saying the press has treated white nationalists unfairly?
TRUMP: No, no. There were people in that rally, and I looked the night before. If you look, they were people protesting very quietly, the taking down the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day, it looked like they had some rough, bad people, neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call ‘em. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest, because you know, I don’t know if you know, but they had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit. So I only tell you this: there are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country, a horrible moment. But there are two sides to the country. Does anybody have a final – does anybody have a final question? You have an infrastructure question.
REPORTER: What makes you think you can get an infrastructure bill? You didn’t get healthcare, you didn’t get tax –
TRUMP: Well, let me tell you. We came very close with health care. Unfortunately, John McCain decided to vote against it at the last minute. You’ll have to ask him why he did that. We came very close to health care. We will end up getting health care. But we’ll get the infrastructure, and actually, infrastructure’s something I think we’ll have bipartisan support on. I actually think – I actually think Democrats will go along with the infrastructure.
REPORTER: Mr. President, have you spoken to the family of the victim of the car attack?
TRUMP: No. I will be reaching out, I’ll be reaching out.
REPORTER: When will you be reaching out?
TRUMP: I thought that the statement put out, the mother’s statement I thought was a beautiful statement. I’ll tell you – it was something that I really appreciated. I thought it was terrific. And really under the kind of stress that she’s under and the heartache she’s under, I thought putting out that statement to me was really something I won’t forget. Thank you all very much. Thank you.
REPORTER: Do you plan to go to Charlottesville, Mr. President?
TRUMP: Did you know I own a house? It’s in Charlottesville, oh boy. It’s in Charlottesville, you’ll see.
REPORTER: Is that the winery or something?
TRUMP: It’s a, it’s a, it is the winery.REPORTERS YELL INDISTINCTLY.TRUMP: I mean, I know a lot about Charlottesville. Charlottesville is a great place that’s been very badly hurt over the last couple of days. I own – I own actually one of the largest wineries in the United States. It’s in charlottesville.
REPORTER: What do you think needs to overcome the racial divides?
TRUMP: Well, I really think jobs are going to have a big impact. If we continue to create jobs – over a million – substantially more than a million, and you see just the other day, the car companies come in with Foxconn, I think if we continue to create jobs at levels that I’m creating jobs, I think that’s going to have a tremendous impact – positive impact – on race relations.
REPORTER: And what you said today, how do you think that will impact?
TRUMP: Because the people are going to be working and making a lot of money, much more than they ever thought possible. That’s going to happen. And the other thing, very important, I believe wages will start going up. They haven’t gone up for a long time. I believe wages now, because the economy is doing so well, with respect to employment and unemployment, I believe wages will start to go up. I think that’ll have a tremendously positive impact on race relations. Thank you.
Ian
“Charging at *us*…”
Really says it all right there.
jl
California sends its congrats to Trump.
Spectacular 1913 Train Collision
youtube.com/watch?v=yUc3wd4It8g
Adam L Silverman
@Ian: You’d like to think his tongue got ahead of his brain, but I think that would be facts not in evidence.
dmsilev
Heh.
scott (the other one)
Jesus. GOD.
To misquote Dennis Green, “He is who we thought he was.”
Zach
I’m still 99% sure Trump will eventually give denounce Nazis and the Klan and that this will be drowned out by the debt ceiling and other political debates in the next 2 months.
Hillary called him out for what he was a year ago and he’s done nothing about escalating racist violence since his election… skeptical this will change anything and that it won’t be forgotten. The median American doesn’t care about racism and will be satisfied with some perfunctory denunciation.
chopper
@Ian:
quite the freudian slip there, mr. accuse-the-other-guy. mr. sir accuse, orange-man.
lamh36
@Ian: some conflict on that…I see folk saying he said “at ’em”, but either way STILL bullshit
debbie
i want to hear a reporter yell back, “No, YOU’RE the fake news!” I know they want to really bad.
Baud
I think this development is so incredible.
Adam L Silverman
I’ll just leave these here. The video is disturbing content, so you’ve all been warned, but I want to make sure we’ve got this saved somewhere at the site:
Marcopolo
Not my president. And it’s been clear who Trump identified with since, oh, I’d say forever. Go all the way back to the tenant discrimination lawsuit he & his father lost in the 70s. We have a racist white supremacist President.
On a positive note, I am so glad St Louis went ahead and dismantled our Confederate monument in July. That looks like a well dodged bullet now.
dmsilev
l’m detecting a certain lack of respect for the dignity of his office. On both sides.
Shalimar
Dear diary,
Today I discovered that people who stand up to Nazis are even worse than Nazis. Which raises the age-old question: If I had the ability to travel back in time and kill babies FDR and Churchill in their cribs, would I?
debbie
@chopper:
I particularly loved his talking about waiting a couple days until he was sure. As if he’d waited to call Muslims terrorists or supported Obama’s waiting until he was sure.
I hope the bots are very, very busy with their gifs.
scott (the other one)
…what the fuck is he trying to say right there? I’m serious. Is he being facetious? Is he accidentally calling the ACA good health care? Did he mean the recent skinny repeal bill?
SiubhanDuinne
Can “REPORTERS YELL INDISTINCTLY” be a new rotating tag, please?
Mnemosyne
In case anyone needs the video to prove it: yes, the Civil War was about slavery. Anyone who told you otherwise lied to you.
Mary G
@Ian: That is where I had to stop reading, fearing an apoplexy, as they used to say:
US! He just admitted to being a Nazi! How can people tolerate that? I am off to order one of those Impeach the Motherfucker hats.
lamh36
NEWSFLASH: MEDIA….GENERAL JOHN KELLY IS A TRUMP BELIEVER!!! Stop expecting him to change a damn thing.
Sandia Blanca
He is so despicable.
germy
“Okay, what about the alt-left that came charging at us.”
“Us,” President Donald Trump said today, referring to the Nazis, 3-percenters, self-described fascists, and KKK affiliated white supremacists at this weekend’s Charlottesville rally, where a woman was murdered by a Trump supporter.
A moment later, Trump corrected his Freudian slip to “them.” But really, come on, you know he meant “us.”
A detail most of us missed in the wacky, unscripted Donald Trump press conference earlier today.
FlipYrWhig
@scott (the other one): He thinks the bill was good, because he thinks it would be better than Obamacare, because he is stupid.
FlipYrWhig
@Adam L Silverman: They’ve been fantasizing about driving over protesters with cars since the height of BLM.
debbie
@Adam L Silverman:
North Dakota tried to legalize running over protestors. And it’s not the only state to do so.
LurkerNoLonger
When I read the headline of this post I thought, “Hey, Barack Obama said something?” Trump is just pretending to be President and failing miserably at it.
eataTREE
His tongue did not get ahead of his brain, folks. He didn’t misspeak. This is the real deal. It turns out Trump really does believe in something besides “I should get richer”: he believes in white supremacy.
Lynn Dee
@Ian:
I don’t believe he actually said “us.” Politico no longer says that (if they ever did). Rather, they have it as “charging at ’em –”
I’ve listened to a couple clips, and it does sound like “em,” not “us.”
jl
I’ve said for a long time that the two very important, stable, bone-deep components of Trump’s identity are all-purpose bigotry (and a kind of reflexive and mindless racism is just a part of that pervasive bigotry), and a swindling. He doesn’t have the mental or emotional resources to hide those two things.
He can only very rarely talk about foreign policy without wandering to how the US can get its hands on another country’s stuff and grab it. He can’t talk about race or cultural issues at all without blurting out something that only an ignorant die-hard bigot would say.
Keith P.
I’m still in awe that Trump got up on camera and said “Today, it’s Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson. What it tomorrow? Thomas Jefferson and George Washington?” Fucking seriously? (and I was born and raised in Alabama)
SiubhanDuinne
“Fake news” long ago turned into a Tourette’s kind of tic for him, didn’t it? Some people use “um” or “like” or “you know” as fillers; he uses “fake news.”
Sad!
Adam L Silverman
@Shalimar: Literally the easiest thing to do for an American politician or some other leader is to denounce NAZIs. The whole justification for American leadership in the global system is that we finally got our butts in gear in 1941 and defeated the purest, most unadulterated evil movement, NAZIism, during World War II. This us such a gimme it isn’t even the equivalent of a 3 inch put. The President’s inability to do this simple thing, while standing next two two Jewish Americans (Gary Cohen and Stephen Mnuchin) and an Asian American (Elaine Chao) speaks volumes about him. The fact that none of those three people didn’t resign immediately, even if they waited till they were all off camera so as not to make a scene, also speaks volumes about them.
Shalimar
He actually said he owns the largest winery in the country. Is it even in the top 100?
Also, whatever happened to the legal bullshit that Eric owns it?
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
What the fuck is the “alt-left”? Anti-fascists? They didn’t “charge” into a crowd of white nationalists with a car, did they?
lamh36
I just got home from work to the breaking news about the news conference.
President Orange Menace, is a disgusting PIECE OF SHIT!!! And the ENTIRE ELECTED REPUBLICAN PARTY …those who voted for him, and supported him, and refuse to take a damn stand…all of them…
“Hilary is the same as Trump” they said. “Both sides are warmongers” they said. “What’s the point of voting” they said. “Bernie or bust” they said. Now we got this organe muthaphuka..DEFENDING RACIST with some “both sides” bullshit.
To all of those folks: media.giphy.com/media/9fCF8UH1LhzPi/giphy.gif
Joseph Nobles
Another audio of the interview doesn’t sound like “at us – excuse me” but “at ’em – excuse me.”
twitter.com/pbump/status/897574076704849921
Adam L Silverman
@FlipYrWhig: I read a post about it on some blog over the weekend.
Marcopolo
Also too, Trump’s comment that Friday night there were “people protesting very quietly” against taking down the statue. So sorry, the people I saw protesting on Friday night were unlawfully (no permit) marching through the UVA campus with torches lit shouting Nazi slogans along with “they won’t replace us, Jews won’t replace us.” he is such an a$$hole.
FlipYrWhig
@SiubhanDuinne: I think it was supposed to be an insult, like, “I’m not finished, Mr. Fake News over there.”
Keith P.
@SiubhanDuinne: Acosta should bring a high pitched noisemaker that he can set off any time Trump says “Fake news”. Eventually, Trump *should* learn…alternative would be a shock collar, ala Cliff Claven from Cheers, but that’s going to be tough to get through the Secret Service (maybe you just ask them to put it on him while he sleeps)
schrodingers_cat
Rhetoric such as the President’s is what causes rivers of blood to flow. The genie of hatred once released is difficult to contain. India and Pakistan are still paying the price, seventy years later for the incendiary rhetoric that unleashed the violence following independence and the partition of British India.
Mike in NC
That was painful to read. A rambling, incoherent, dishonest mess. Lies about creating jobs, lies about excess regulations, even lies about the victim. If Trump’s mouth is open, he’s lying his ugly face off.
All that was missing was “No Nazi. No Nazi. You’re the Nazi!”
Cheryl Rofer
Gator90
@Adam L Silverman: I sometimes bridle at attempts to hold Jews to a higher standard, but any Jew who would continue to work with this man or otherwise support him … I can’t even. Just can’t.
Adam L Silverman
@debbie: I wrote a post about this on Sunday.
trollhattan
@Ian:
There are tells and there are YELLS. This is the latter and I imagine David Duke and that Spencer dude are having an extra scoop of ice cream tonight in celebration.
Adam L Silverman
@Lynn Dee: Yep, they’ve changed it without a comment. I’ll update up top. Thanks!
A Ghost to Most
@Mnemosyne: One need only read the Letters of Secession of the various traitor states to confirm that. But facts are slippery to those folks.
schrodingers_cat
@Gator90: True for any immigrant who is a beneficiary or whose parents were the beneficiaries of the civil rights legislation (Immigration act in particular) of the 1960s. I am looking at you Haley, Pai, etc.
trollhattan
@Cheryl Rofer:
Truly? Make Zombie Roger Ailes ANGRY!
bluehill
Another example of the what a slippery slope looks like. Another reason why I think most repubs in Congress will not stand up to the President until something catastrophic happens. They have already condoned so many other unconstitutional, sexist or racist comments and actions that it’s easier to accept each additional affront to be consistent with their past actions than to accept and explain their past behavior.
Every time I tell myself not to be shocked I am again. Jaw-dropping to watch the self-professed champions of liberty move further towards fascism or authoritarianism or whatever is the opposite of democracy. Obama derangement syndrome has done a number on these guys.
SiubhanDuinne
Poor Eric.
p.a.
@Mnemosyne: also too:
their own words
JPL
During the march on Friday they said “blood and soil” What does that mean, because I sure don’t want to use google.
lamh36
debbie
Another one bites the dust.
twitter.com/cnbc/status/897576478648528897
lamh36
This muthaphucka compared George Washington and Thomas Jefferson to Confederacy leaders…I can certainly tell ya some history vis a vis Washington & Jefferson and slavery…BUT to equate the founders of the country, with Robert E Lee and other leaders of the confederacy….I’m just surprised the mofo didn’t mention MLKJr.
68.media.tumblr.com/c036c01f2ab0049352ab3f7adae20427/tumblr_inline_mk2gmghYDy1qz4rgp.gif
SiubhanDuinne
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
Young Barron set that up as a command on his daddy’s keyboard.
lamh36
@tbogg
Stephen Miller’s dick is so hard right now, he’ll probably have to kill more than his usual 3 hookers tonight to find relief.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
Holy fuck…
Adam L Silverman
@Keith P.: Yep, surprised me as a native central Floridian. Speaking of which, BettyC is late for the shift change…
LurkerNoLonger
Who talks like this? It’s like a kid dressing up in his father’s suit and tie and talking to himself in a mirror. Playing at being an adult.
Mart
@FlipYrWhig: Buddy in Texas has always maintained he is developmentally delayed, but uses another term for it. This before the TV show. Would explain a lot.
Lynn Dee
@Adam L Silverman:
Folks on twitter all seem to have heard it as “us” too. I hope this doesn’t turn into one of those awful rightwing, fueled-by-Fox exposes!
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: Fake news!
A Ghost to Most
@Cheryl Rofer: Murdoch cutting bait and trying to save the Rs?
SiubhanDuinne
@debbie:
Kay will be relieved. She was annoyed in one of the morning threads that Trumka hadn’t yet resigned.
trollhattan
@SiubhanDuinne:
Being familiar with Gallo’s operation I’d love to see any Virginia winery anywhere near “one of the largest” in the U.S. He really can’t help himself.
Lynn Dee
@lamh36:
OMG, that is hilarious.
I’m thinking Criminal Minds needs to do that one. Not sure SVU would do it full justice.
Adam L Silverman
@Gator90: It isn’t even a common standard. I once walked away from, as in resigned without a clear follow on position, a six figure job because among my boss’s toxic behavior was racism, including anti-Semitism (despite him being Jewish and married to an Israeli), homophobia, and anti-immigrant xenophobia. He was also a drunk, was fixing, and wanted me to fix, student grades, and running a pay for graduate masters programs for his buddies.
Cheryl Rofer
dmsilev
@JPL: Wikipedia has an article on the subject:
SiubhanDuinne
@JPL:
You are my friend, so I Googled it for you. Blut und Boden, jawohl?
Yarrow
This whole display was shocking and I can’t believe he can still shock me with anything he does.
Cacti
Have Bernie or Liz Warren checked in yet to say Charlottesville was about jobs?
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Cacti: Leave Warren out of this
Cheryl Rofer
@Adam L Silverman:
jl
Change in wording doesn’t make much difference, and I think for a simple reason. Trump’s version of events simply didn’t happen this weekend. He is not talking about a fight between antifa goons and Trumpsters in, say, Oakland, where both sides go berserk and start punching, throwing things and burning stuff up. Trump’s version didn’t happen and he can’t admit it. And everyone can see that. There are plenty of pics, for example, of the small group of counter protesters at the illegal evening Tiki torch parade passively surrounding the statue of Jefferson and getting roughed up. No counter-protester drove a car into a crowd and killed somebody. Didn’t happen. Trump says it did. Everyone can see that Trump is wrong and won’t admit it.
Ian G.
Maybe, if we’re lucky, white supremacism has been like heroin addiction for this country for centuries, and what we’re going through now is the attempt to kick it cold turkey, and all the unpleasant effects that entails. I’d like to hope we come out on the other side of Shitgibbon and Dickie Spencer a better country.
lamh36
Adam L Silverman
@JPL: It’s a NAZI slogan from the early 1930s. It refers to one’s citizenship being a connection/tie between their blood (ethno-national descent) and the land they live on.
A Ghost to Most
When you’ve lost Nicole Wallace …
Shell
Yes, innocently protesting, with their semi-automatic rifles.
Aimai
@Cacti: stupid jerk–Warren is no Bernie and she has never pandered to the racist white working class. Of course she denounced this.
delk
Hopefully it is your name that is ruining that building on the Chicago River.
Yarrow
Kind of unrelated, but also not, it’s obvious Obama is in Trump’s head. We saw something about how the European diplomats say he wants to undo everything Obama did and anything Obama did he wants to do the opposite. It’s really clear this is true. He mentions President Obama or compares himself to him all the time. He did it again today. There was no reason for him to mention President Obama’s speeches on race, but he just had to bring them up.
President Obama just owns Trump. It’s darkly funny but also terrifying.
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36:
Yet…
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Cheryl Rofer:
This could be what ultimately sinks his presidency. Unfortunately, because a white woman was killed by a white supremacist goon in a fairly affluent city, many people (media included) know it can happen anywhere and Trump’s not categorically condemning the group responsible because he deep down he really believes in that shit. That’s angering and scaring lots of people. Like the Russia scandal, I don’t think this is going away anytime soon.
trollhattan
@lamh36:
Have to admit, the election focused and sharpened Colbert and his writers to the point he’s perhaps Trump’s most consistent and effective critic.
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: Hey, it’s before the 10 PM hour. Take that kind of thing to a subscription only service…//
Villago Delenda Est
Anyone who collaborates with the Nazi chief executive (Cohen, Mnuchin, Chao) should be treated as you treat any other Nazi.
A Ghost to Most
@Yarrow: Obama is living large, as he richly deserves, and keeping a place in Rump’s head for free.
Kay
It’s excruciating to watch his cabinet stand there at his hotels like mute props. God almighty. Why don’t they have enough self-respect to refuse these jobs? He treats them like Trump Family employees. Do they watch these events after they appear in them? This is the high point of their careers?
lamh36
Toobin on CNN, maybe it is working, cause we also said Trump couldn’t win and Trump was the same person then and a large number of folks voted for him and against HRC and I guess Obama
Toobin is tired AF just like us. Basically Jeff T is like this is EXACTLY who they voted for…so maybe the country out there that voted for him IS fine w/him defending White Nationalist…
And ya know what, Toobin is right…
DesertFriar
And here in Southern New Mexico, the Dona Ana Country GOP Chairperson quits over remarks on facebook Sunday.
krwg.org/post/dona-ana-county-gop-chairman-quits-after-controversial-post
Roman Jimenez wrote on the party’s Facebook page Sunday that the protesters were responsible for creating a divide between races and genders and were “getting exactly what they asked for”: a segregated society of groups.
“The white ones have been taught to hate their color, the women are taught to hate men, black and minorities want to kill whites and police,” Jimenez wrote in the post. “They then have the audacity to call conservatives racist.”
Jimenez later told an Albuquerque TV station that the post was taken out of context and he regretted it was misconstrued.
Baud
@A Ghost to Most: Obama needs to throw a huge house party just to stick the shiv in deeper.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@delk:
George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, while flawed people, did more than just own slaves or fight for slavery’s continuance against their own country. Duh.
TS
He wants violence – at home and abroad. Someone has told him war is the way to be the “good guy”.
Cacti
@Aimai:
Sounds an awful lot like the “economic anxiety” argument for supporting an overt bigot.
Kay
Oh, please. Stop making excuses. This is who you back and this is what you are. They must be amazingly stupid people if they’re “stunned” that Trump is a mean-spirited, bigoted jerk with no self control and no discipline.
Everyone else knows. They’re literally the last people to figure it out.
Shalimar
Maybe this will all turn out to be a positive thing. I have been exposed to Fox News for 20 years and Limbaugh for 25, and never been able to tell much difference between those and the ideology of actual neo-nazis. Trump is trying to differentiate betwewn acceptable rightwing hate groups and unacceptable rightwing hate groups, but he is failing miserably because it is clear he sees all of them as his supporters.
Let them own this. Let them all try to explain how their beliefs are different from actual nazis. They deserve this.
Adam L Silverman
@Lynn Dee: It is what it is and it will be what it will be. Since they changed the transcript I figure the right thing to do was update up top.
Kathleen
@Cacti: Trump already covered that. He said jobs would cure racism or something.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@TS: As long as Trump and the entire admin is on the front lines, I’m ok with that
SiubhanDuinne
@Kay:
Kay, did you see that Trumka resigned that Presidential Manufacturers’ Commission or whatever it’s called? I know you were a bit frustrated this morning that he hadn’t made a statement.
Cheryl Rofer
@DesertFriar: Excellent.
A Ghost to Most
@Baud:
Wouldn’t that list of American A-listers just frost the pumpkin.
Adam L Silverman
@A Ghost to Most: Murdoch trying to convince British regulators and the House of Commons to 1) allow him to purchase the rest of Sky and 2) not stripping him of the licenses to operate the media companies he currently owns because they’re disgusted with him.
lamh36
Jeffrey Toobin again is the cynic in all of us…I don’t believe anything that comes out of Trump’s mouth. Toobin, says like us all, this is EXACTLY the same Trump that he always was…and NO ONE will be surprised that this is WHO he is. His voters KNEW he bragged about assaulting women, he wink/wink nod/nod to White Surpemacist.
THIS IS THE REAL DONALD TRUMP, not the one who sends out “reasonable” sounding tweets or statements…he a sexual assault braggard and he considers Neo Nazis and White Supremacist…not so bad.
Oh, and he REALLY hates John McCain.
Baud
@Kay: Trump officials are like babies with no object permanence.
Adam L Silverman
@Cacti: Bernie will issue a statement once Nina Turner gives him permission to do so.
Baud
@lamh36: I’m no McCain fan, but he’s got nothing to lose at this point.
Kathleen
@Kay: Well, @maggieNYT tweeted that they had the hardest jobs today. She’s so solicitous of the powerful and the evil. I’m sure the families of people who were killed or injured over the weekend had it much easier than Maggie’s friends.
Adam L Silverman
@Cheryl Rofer: I was kidding.
patrick II
@Keith P.:
I heard Trump say that. So in his mind George Washington and Robert E. Lee are equivalent.
JPL
@Adam L Silverman: Thank you. A friend who lost relatives in Poland during the holocaust asked me if I knew. Some history is lost.
dmsilev
@Kay: I assume that they’re stunned not that Trump believes what he believes but that he’s so stupidly self-destructing to say so aloud in public.
Adam L Silverman
@A Ghost to Most: He lost her during the primaries.
Adam L Silverman
@Shell: All tacticool rifles matter!//
jl
@Adam L Silverman: Sanders and Warren both have multiple tweets about Charottesville and Trump’s response, and I think they are very clear that they oppose Trump’s BS. Look, I have to very very swallow hard when I give Sessions credit for saying and doing the right thing (right now, we have to watch for follow through like a hawk) on the Nazi riots and prosecution the domestic terrorist. There are times when some feuds have to take lower priority for at least the time being.
A Ghost to Most
@Adam L Silverman: Yeah, that Sky thing looks doubtful in the current environment to me, but you may know otherwise. If Murdoch isn’t weighing turning on Rump, he’s a fool.
Adam L Silverman
@Shalimar: Murdoch’s elder sons are much more liberal, especially socially liberal, than their father.
AnotherBruce
@A Ghost to Most: There’s a lot of space there.
Cheryl Rofer
@Adam L Silverman: I know
debbie
I know he thinks he is Master of Twitter, but I think it will be Twitter that destroys Trump.
bemused
@FlipYrWhig:
Probably the same type people that fantasize about running over libtards on bikes or actually do it.
Adam L Silverman
@JPL: It was originally part of the romantic, for lack of a better term, philosophical period in Germany and German speaking areas that started in the late 19th century. It is related to the bund and eros movement, which became a hallmark of first German socialism, then NAZIism, and interestingly enough was carried to Mandatory Palestine before the NAZIs ever came to power, or were even really organized, by German Jewish and German speaking Jewish settlers in Palestine who were socialists.
SiubhanDuinne
@Villago Delenda Est:
It really stunned me to watch Elaine Chao stand there next to him, smiling prettily, and gazing at him like some Latter-Day Nancy Reagan. Especially given the way Trump has publicly raked her husband over the coals in the past few weeks. You’d think mere self-respect would…. Oh, never mind.
MisterForkbeard
@Kay: I like that their defense was literally “We didn’t think Trump would tell you what he actually thinks.”
But you know, he’s totally qualified and is the bestest president evar!
Baud
@jl: Agree.
bemused
@Cheryl Rofer:
Seriously?! Oh boy, Trump not going to have a good evening watching his fav channel.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
I’ve never been so proud of any president as I am of Czar Manbaby. I mean, he just really explained it all so movingly, so cogently, so eloquently, you know? How this guy doesn’t have an approval rating of at least 150-175% is beyond me.
Adam L Silverman
@jl: I’ve seen both of them and they were appropriate. But it doesn’t matter what Senator Sanders does. What matters is what his outside group does. Which he no longer really controls because he put Turner in charge. She’s not interested in sharing power with him or anyone else. She is interested in pulling everything down on everyone’s heads.
A Ghost to Most
@Adam L Silverman: She’s a shill for Rs, but on her msnbc show, she’s cut him considerable slack, to the point of enraged vulgar remote dives on my part.
Last year? I can’t remember last month. Everyday is a new firehose of treachery and stupid and greed.
Baud
@Adam L Silverman: Is that based on the donuts incident?
Adam L Silverman
@A Ghost to Most: Almost all of Murdoch’s behavior around the sexual harassment and assault accusations against Fox News personnel is intended to protect his attempt to get his purchase of Sky past the British authorities. Murdoch only carries about money and the access and power it buys. It’s why he runs a news portal for the PRC, which while fundamentally conservative at this point in the ruling party’s existence is still a Maoist party.
MisterForkbeard
@bemused: No, no. Fox will be back to supporting Trump and attacking Obama and leftists as the real cause of this by the time Hannity and Tucker Carlson roll around. By the time of Fox and Friends tomorrow morning, it’ll be amazing how the leftists faked nazism to make Trump look bad.
germy
@SiubhanDuinne:
How much respect can she have for the turtle? She’s his beard.
Adam L Silverman
@A Ghost to Most: I’m not sure we’ve watched the same shows and appearances. She’s been hard on him consistently and doesn’t cut him any slack. And yes, she is a Republican campaign specialist and former Bush 43 White House spokesperson.
Adam L Silverman
@Baud: It is based on her behavior for the past 18 months to 2 years.
germy
Baud
@Adam L Silverman: Thanks. I haven’t followed her that closely.
germy
germy
debbie
@MisterForkbeard:
That’s why they’re always saying to ignore what he says and pay attention to what he does. As if that would make things better!
Baud
@debbie:
That’s good advice since what he says is usually a lie.
Adam L Silverman
@Baud: She has decided that the system has to be burned down. That the Democratic Party is no different than the Republican Party and that folks that are center left to liberal aren’t really any different than conservatives. Only the true progressives have the correct ideas and the right of the argument. And if the Democratic Party doesn’t bend to her vision then she will destroy it. She is a true believer. A true radical. And if she gets her way she will destroy everything in the name of her definition of purity.
JWR
WTF? I mean, Nazis were screaming “you (Jews?) will not replace us”, but they were screaming it very quietly? I guess he had that TV muted so he could listen to Fox on one of his other sets.
MisterForkbeard
@germy: I think they had to, right? Legally speaking, or they’d be in trouble for promoting her brand and products the same way Kellyanne Conway was earlier this year.
So… hooray for minimal competence?
Baud
@Adam L Silverman:
“Listen, and understand! That Turner is out there! She can’t be bargained with. She can’t be reasoned with. She doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And she absolutely will not stop… ever, until you are dead!”
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@Cheryl Rofer:
Cool. What do the big dogs say though, Hannity and co.?
Adam L Silverman
@Baud: Pretty much.
Archon
People in power are gonna have to make some tough decisions regarding Trump because this can’t last another 3 1/2 years. Trump’s press conference today is creating the conditions for major civil unrest.
Baud
@Archon: Pence is ready for his close up.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@Cacti: Warren is making exactly the same point that Hillary was making in her “basket of deplorables” comments (not all Trump voters s/b lumped together with the deplorables, some are just misinformed or suckers, etc.)
So no, Elizabeth Warren is not out there trying to minimize the horror of Charlottesville. You’re the one trying to make this about intra-Party politics. Cut it out, prickly!
Gravenstone
@SiubhanDuinne: Money and power work well to help one ignore one’s withered conscience.
bemused
@Kay:
I do not believe that WH aides weren’t worried sick that he would go rogue. If I have just been waiting for him to go on a rant, they surely must have been on tenterhooks. It’s what he does. He can’t be bottled up for very long, couple days at most so they have to know he was going to blow.
oldgold
Charles Krauthammer said on Fox: “What Trump said today was a moral disgrace”
Link
Elie
@schrodingers_cat:
You hit the nail right on– violence is a genie that is very hard to get back into the bottle once loose. He seems to want it loose…. Notice how he keeps playing with the edges of disaster on this issue. He can’t stop picking the fragile scab — he wants us, this country, to bleed…
Trump is a very sick and very destructive and vindictive man. He must be watched carefully but even that may not be enough. I worry about him signing off on the debt ceiling — just to fuck this country — especially is his poll numbers keep heading south. We are dealing with a dangerous person who is largely uncontrollable.
Adam L Silverman
This is going to leave a mark. From the 37th Commandant of the US Marine Corps:
mai naem mobile
Don’t know if anybody mentioned this but Dolt45 said he owned one of the largest wineries in the cpintry. He didn’t say my family or my son hens aid ‘I’.
.
bemused
@MisterForkbeard:
No doubt. It’s just kind of stunning that one Fox panel actually went there even for a moment.
cynn
He’s flashing gang signs.
MisterForkbeard
@Adam L Silverman: If they’re trying to make the point that Trump isn’t up to the moral caliber of a marine, I think they succeeded wildly.
But then, I don’t think that was really in question.
@bemused: Yep. Hannity’s already at it. Has Huckabee onboard to talk about how the media is distorting Trump in order to attack him, because they’re all liberals and hate America.
Steeplejack
Just had a chance to watch Trump’s press conference in its entirety. Vis-à-vis the discussion here yesterday about whether Trump is throwing a “white power” hand sign or just manifesting a physical/oratorical tic (example here, not from today), the visuals today make me lean more to the latter. His right hand was spraying it almost continually, and it didn’t seem to be tied to any cues in his speech—except, of course, in the sense that almost everything he said was a giant dog whistle to the racist and white supremacists.
But if you look at Trump’s speeches and rallies from the campaign last year, he uses that same gesture a lot, regardless of the topic. It seems to be sort of a “let me emphasize this little moment” thing, when it has any apparent significance at all.
SiubhanDuinne
@mai naem mobile:
Yeah, I did a while ago: @SiubhanDuinne
Conflict of interest? What conflict of interest?
Roger Moore
@lamh36:
McCain shivved him proper, and Trump is never going to forgive or forget. Well, he might forget after the Alzheimer’s gets worse.
cynn
He’s throwing gang signs. Not black.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@Adam L Silverman: Seems like he’s shaming former marine Kelly for not resigning.
bemused
@MisterForkbeard:
Of course it would Hannity on the job before end of the day.
zhena gogolia
@lamh36:
Why is she in a nun’s outfit?
Adam L Silverman
Adam L Silverman
lamh36
Commandant of Marine Corps
Adam L Silverman
@MisterForkbeard: @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: The Commandant has sent a message. It remains to be seen if it was received. It has more than one intended recipient, specifically the former Marine NCO who took over the Vanguard America group that was part of the event on Saturday.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@mai naem mobile: The Daily Show looked into this last year. Neither he or his family own the winery, rather they license his name for the label.
jl
@Adam L Silverman: I don’t know much about Turner either. If she is a nut, and she nuts out and causes problems because BS put her charge of his organization, that is on BS.. But there was talk on the thread suggesting that Warren and Sanders were the equivalent of Trump in pandering to white bigots and that is what I was objecting to.
@Adam L Silverman: Do you think that tweet was just a subtle demonstration against Trump? Or that he sensed that Trump’s behavior could cause problems with his people that he felt that he needed to get out in front of? Since I assume that the Marine Commandant is competent leader, unlike the president.
Chyron HR
@Roger Moore:
Hey, many nice people who lived good lives suffer from Alzheimer’s through no fault of their own.
The POTUS has tertiary syphilis.
Mary G
Every word that comes out of his mouth is a lie:
JPL
@Adam L Silverman: What do you think about what lamh @ 174 posted
frosty
Good lord, The EC elected Tommy Flanagan!!
Yeah, flying Japanese sand tigers, that’s the ticket!
mai naem mobile
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: I didn’t know that. My point was just that he said he had turned all his businesses over to his sons.
Adam L Silverman
@JPL: Check out my comments 160 and 175.
Adam L Silverman
@jl: Tracking on Sanders and Warren, no worries.
As for the USMC Commandant, this is what I wrote in comment 175:
MisterForkbeard
@jl: I belonged to Our Revolution for awhile because I thought it was fine to bring out Dems and primary insufficiently left Dems so long as we were respectful about it.
I terminated my membership and sent them a letter once I looked into it and discovered Turner’s involvement. She’s horrible – the kind of person who kept attacking Hillary even in September/October of last year. I also had some BernieBro friends who were on a ‘campaign’ call in early August, where Turner was talking about how it wasn’t over yet because Hillary was going to have to resign as the candidate, or so they told me.
I can’t think of a more corrosive person that’s still in Democratic politics.
zhena gogolia
@Archon:
Yes.
Captain C
@Kay: If they haven’t figured it out by now, their IQ has to be well below room temperature. Perhaps even below their shoe size.
Or perhaps they’ve got a good grift going, and just need another couple months before they can quit and retire in luxury.
Matt McIrvin
@Adam L Silverman: Oh, there’s plenty of competition. Somebody broke a panel of the Boston Holocaust Memorial too.
JPL
@Adam L Silverman: I was hoping that it was meant for Trump, even though he is the asshole in chief.
Baud
@MisterForkbeard: Wow.
Recall
@Cacti:
You know the woman who was killed was a Sanders supporter, right?
MisterForkbeard
@Baud: Yeah. I can’t confirm that ‘campaign call’ thing, but I heard it from at least two people.
Even if it’s not true, she’s said enough objectionable things that no one should touch her with a 10 ft pole.
Adam L Silverman
I’m taking my dogs for a walk, getting cleaned up, and going for tacos because it is Tuesday. Back later.
Baud
@MisterForkbeard: I would not waste my donuts on her.
jl
@Adam L Silverman: ” the former Marine NCO who took over the Vanguard America group that was part of the event on Saturday. ” OK, thanks. I missed that comment. That explains a lot about the tweet.
@MisterForkbeard: Thanks for info on Turner. I thought about joining that group after the primary. But I couldn’t find enough info on their site that explained to me adequately what its mission was, exactly what it was doing and how it was related to Sanders. So I never joined or sent any money.
Adam L Silverman
@JPL: Many intended recipients.
SiubhanDuinne
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
One of these things is NOT FUCKING LIKE the other.
Adam L Silverman
@jl: He did a stint as a recruiter. I guarantee that right now USMC’s recruiting command is going through everyone he recruited to revet them for white supremacist ties. Moreover, based on his real last name, he may come from a family with a long and distinguished history of service. I hope it isn’t the case, but if it is several of his cousins that I’ve worked with (one’s a general officer, the other is a colonel) have my sympathy for the negative scrutiny this is going to bring them.
theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/14/charlottesville-attack-vanguard-america-james-fields-dillon-hopper…
SiubhanDuinne
@mai naem mobile:
Yet another lie. But we knew that.
Roger Moore
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
And, of course, it isn’t even the largest winery in Virginia, at least not by volume. It’s completely dwarfed by the big California vineyards.
Chet
This part (which I’ve repunctuated) jumped out at me:
It’s hard to read from the transcript, because he is flitting from the topic of David Duke to the topic of how good his statement yesterday was.
Literally nobody said that. He said last week that the Boy Scouts told him his speech was the greatest speech ever given to them. In the real world, they apologized for it. I seem to recall him saying the same thing about the French on his last trip there. It baffles me to see him invent these adulations.
a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)
@A Ghost to Most: James and Lachlan not wanting to lose value from the rest of the Fox networks.
TenguPhule
@schrodingers_cat:
I am not happy to have predicted this months ago. Not happy at all.
I would have preferred to have been the crazy conspiracy person.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman:
Its always after dark somewhere.
Jeffro
@TenguPhule:
Join the crowd, TP.
Unfortunately, he’s not even halfway done yet. Or should I say, halfway down. I doubt we’ll make it to Halloween before he’ll be calling for “his” people to rise up and use whatever means they feel are necessary to – get this – resist this attempted takeover of the government by anti-American traitors.
On the bright side, just about everyone outside 1600 Pennsylvania Ave appears to be openly ignoring him, and possibly a few folks on the inside as well.
Ladyraxterinok
@JPL: Probably already answered. It is the English translation of the Nazi slogan Blut und Boden. It signaled that the only true Germans were those who historically were German by blood/genetic heritage and could show that their genetic family were born on German soil.
a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)
@jl: I think Sessions wants to carry out his agenda of disenfranchisement via voter suppression quietly and under cover of “improving” elections and “fighting voting fraud”, and the little weasel knows he can’t do that if the American people in general sit up and start connecting the dots. So having the bigot-boys start feeling their oats and drawing attention is the last thing he wants. He’s not revolted; he’s not reaching for unity; he’s irritated that they are making his grand design harder to achieve. This is work that requires stealth on his part and public apathy and indifference. A public freaked out about OMG!! Actual Nazis™ will complicate his machinations.
TenguPhule
@Jeffro:
Unfortunately, this doesn’t apply to other countries.
Factoring in geo-political opponents to this domestic shitstorm and you have a recipe for things to go absolutely pear-shaped.
NorthLeft12
@DesertFriar:
That is probably as close to an apology that you will get from this guy. What a maroon.
Citizen Scientist
And we get this bs on Twitter:
NMgal
@DesertFriar: Hmmm. Has La Tejana made any statement?
JerryRich
@Villago Delenda Est: Transportation Secretary Chao will regret the adoring look she gave to He, Trump for the rest of her life.
jl
@a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio): I agree that Sessions needs to be watched like a hawk, on every single issue, and on this response to the tragedy this weekend to make sure he follows through on his good statements he’s made on it.
Murmeltier
Are Tiki torches a thing with white supremacists? Our neighbor has some in her yard. She has made comments that make it pretty clear that she’s very biased against non-whites. I try to avoid chatting with her. Arghh!!
I can no longer see Tiki torches as kitschy party accessories. Damn them!!