It’s sad (no lie!) that the New England Cosplay Association had to cancel a long-scheduled public gathering because some nitwit college kid got a permit to let Nazi wannabes swarm Boston Common. But this is serious:
An army of feral clowns descending upon DC was really more a question of 'when' not 'if' in 2017. ???? pic.twitter.com/Y03Fn7vja0
— Local Milk Steak (@ZeddRebel) August 17, 2017
Also: good luck doxxing a dude in facepaint. Holy shit this might work.
— Christopher Sebela (@xtop) August 17, 2017
Facepainted, faygo-soaked folks w/ hatchets & magnet-based weapons lines the horizon. A "whoop whoop" is heard as they storm the nazi hordes
— Christopher Sebela (@xtop) August 17, 2017
Okay, it’s time to talk about the Juggalo March On Washington. This is a real thing that is happening on September 16th.
— Nate Igor Smith (@drivenbyboredom) August 15, 2017
Juggalos are marching on Washington because the FBI classified juggalos as a gang.
— Nate Igor Smith (@drivenbyboredom) August 15, 2017
However, this gang classification has serious as impact for juggalos who tend to be poor and undereducated already.
— Nate Igor Smith (@drivenbyboredom) August 15, 2017
People have been dishonorably discharged from the military for gang tattoos.
— Nate Igor Smith (@drivenbyboredom) August 15, 2017
Juggalos who get arrested for non-violent offenses are treated as gang members and added to gang lists.
— Nate Igor Smith (@drivenbyboredom) August 15, 2017
Liberal s should get on board because it is a civil rights issue and conservatives should get on board because it’s government overreach.
— Nate Igor Smith (@drivenbyboredom) August 15, 2017
THE YEAR IS 2017
JUGGALOS AND FURRIES TAKE A STRONGER POSITION AGAINST NEONAZISM THAN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES— ????@Furrydelphia AA (@JUNIUS_64) August 16, 2017
????????? pic.twitter.com/Nffzz5lUCQ
— Connor Wroe Southard (@ConnorSouthard) August 17, 2017
Y’know, I’d have trouble picking Insane Clown Posse songs out of a general metal sound-off, but if the Very Serious Pundits could get past their bourgeois prejudices, the classic Juggalo is exactly the type of disadvantaged, Appalachian-heritage ‘Working Class White’ that they slobber over so endlessly. And it would probably cause at least one cardiac incident if this were pointed out to a roomful of Media Village Idiots…
JCJ
Someone showed me a facebook thingie that was pretty good…
Dear God, If you want us to impeach Trump, just give us a sign. Like blot out the sun, anytime in the next week. Thanks, America
Patricia Kayden
Some beautiful scenes in Durham, North Carolina as hundreds of people turn themselves in for toppling the Confederate statue. This is how you protest.
George Spiggott
INSANE CLOWN POSSE vs. INSANE CLOWN POTUS
Dia
I think there was a thread below for how we’re coping. Blog entries like this are how I’m coping….
oatler.
“And on this Sunday’s Meet The Press, Juggalo spokesperson-…”
Quinerly
Abraham Lincoln statue in Chicago burned: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Abe-Lincoln-Statue-Burned-on-Chicagos-South-Side-440897443.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_CHBrand
Kent
Guess I’m getting old. I had to google “juggalo” to figure out WTF this thread is about.
Ruviana
Someone better warn Omnes about this post.
Another Scott
I’ve heard of ICP, and know that some people are obviously into them, but this just seems too weird.
Gangs? Really?
:-/
People have the right to peaceably assemble, have free associations, and all the rest, even if they have weird taste in music and like face paint and weird hand gestures. If they are being hassled for no reason, I hope my ACLU dues are helping to fight for them…
I’ve got to do some reading…
Cheers,
Scott.
Baud
I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t confused by modern culture.
SiubhanDuinne
@JCJ:
Ha! I’ve had that up on my FB for a couple of days. Can’t remember where I first saw it, but knew it required sharing.
Major Major Major Major
Poor cosplayers!
SiubhanDuinne
@Ruviana:
Was JUST going to suggest that AL put up a trigger warning for Omnes.
debbie
@Quinerly:
History might as well end. Thinking of future generations’ peace of mind.
??? Martin
Well, if Wade brings Trevor and Michael to the Juggalo march, shit will go down against the Nazis.
Baud
I’ll be honest, when I read the title, I thought this post was about David Anderson.
debbie
@Kent:
I’ve heard of them and I’ve heard their music (such as it is), but I can’t figure out if they’re pro- or anti-Trump or if they’re just plain clowns.
Roger Moore
So which is worse: pissing of the Juggalos or disrespecting Wu Tang Clan?
Ohio Mom
@Kent: That’s what I am about to do. Another example of how keeping up with the news is hard work these days.
RobertDSC-iPhone 6
@??? Martin:
Lol. Trevor is a foreigner! Just don’t ask him where from. He’s a bit sensitive aboot that.
Baud
This may be correct, but we were burned with Snowden, so I’m hesitant.
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
Nice customs curtsy to great kings, Baud.
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: If you can’t tell the difference between “stealing and leaking top-secret government documents” and “dressing up like a clown”…
Ruviana
@SiubhanDuinne: Great minds and all that! :)
Baud
@Major Major Major Major: I understand they are different things. I just don’t know which is worse.
p.a.
@Baud: i believe that’s one of the main purposes of modernism.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Quinerly:
“But Lincoln was a tyrant! Argle bargle habeas corpus!”
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
That photo in the last thread could certainly lead one to such a conclusion.
SiubhanDuinne
@Patricia Kayden:
Spartaci!!
Ohio Mom
Goku, hope of the universe, are you reading this thread?
Aren’t you in the Cleveland area? I just googled “Where to watch the eclipse in Cleveland,” and there are a number of places having viewing parties and giving out glasses — of course if you have obligations on Monday like work or school, that might not be possible.
Anyway, if you aren’t in Cleveland, google your town, and if that doesn’t work, take heart, a full eclipse is coming to Ohio in a mere seven years. Who knows, you might pick up a pair of glasses next Tuesday, really cheap — then you’ll be set for 2024.
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: If you can’t tell which is worse, Edward Snowden and the merry Greenwald gang or dressing up like a clown, maybe you shouldn’t be President.
TenguPhule
@Baud:
So were you lying then or now?
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major:
Why is this an either/or scenario?
Baud
@Major Major Major Major: Maybe I should be president and simply smite them all to avoid the issue.
Baud
@TenguPhule: Yes.
Patricia Kayden
Texas ordered to redraw part of its Congressional map before 2018 elections. Good.
Baud
@TenguPhule: Good point.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major: Do they really only dress up like clowns?
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Baud:
Snowden ended up being a stooge of the Russian Federation. The juggalos are a strange subculture that is being persecuted by the powers-that-be
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Ruviana: Omnes isn’t the only right thinking person around here, clowns are EVIL.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Patricia Kayden:
NC as well, I heard. Good. Maybe we can start to become a full democracy again instead of just a flawed one.
Baud
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Right. But the problem was that Snowden was initially pitched has being persecuted by the powers-that-be as well. How do I know what’s real, another than trusting you guys?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud:
And I affirm my support for Baud!2020!.
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
“Oh, would’st I could kick the habit
And give up smoting for good.”
— Allan Sherman, Sir Greenbaum’s Madrigal
TenguPhule
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
This is the same argument the libertarians make.
efgoldman
@Kent:
My kid, the journalist (36 y o) has been explaining it to people for two days
sukabi
The New Yorker’s next cover
The Economist and Time covers also follow a similar theme…
Sab
@Ohio Mom: I think he’s more near Youngstown.
SiubhanDuinne
@Ohio Mom:
I am feeling rather bleak about the eclipse at the moment. After early predictions that it would be clear and sunny on the day in the area I plan to be, the forecast is now for heavy rainstorms. Don’t yet have an hour-by-hour breakdown; if there’s even a remote chance that skies will clear during the crucial time, I’ll go ahead and hit the road early. But if it looks rainy and stormy throughout the region, I might as well save the gas. Probably won’t make a final decision until Sunday night.
Major Major Major Major
@TenguPhule: Dude, if the fans of a stupid band are being treated like a criminal gang, something is wrong. I don’t see what that has to do with libertarians.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Baud:
I don’t know. The negros could have been super secret communist agitaitors. Liberals supported them.
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: I’d like to think you can trust us.
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne: That’s why I decided not to make last-minute plans. It’s going to be a mess anyway in terms of traffic and people, and it would all be for naught if the weather were cloudy. But I have decided to make seeing an eclipse a priority in my life.
Baud
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: sometimes you just have to roll the dice.
@Major Major Major Major: I’d like to think that too.
joax
Juggalos are a fascinating subculture, hardly a gang.
Here’s a short vid from reason. Worth learning about and they are the perfect folks to march on Washing… along with everybody else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqWgpVoSh0s
Frankensteinbeck
When it was a meme, I listened to the ‘Fucking magnets, how do they work?’ song to learn what was going on. I actually fully approved of the song’s message and did not think it was silly. The point is that very few of us know how the things we use every day work, so we should see the world with wonder because we are surrounded by what might as well be magic.
Having learned how magnets actually do work in chemistry class, I’m still not sure I can remember well enough to say I understand. Something about partially filled electron energy shells allowing polarization.
As for Juggalos as a gang and persecution thereby, I am instinctively on their side, but I would not want to make a decision without knowing why they were qualified as a gang. I know pretty much nothing about this issue, and I hate making decisions without good information.
Baud
I can only assume that the Insane Clown Posse will be the Super Bowl halftime show in about 20 years.
Baud
@Frankensteinbeck:
Bullshit. No one understands magnets except Richard Feynman and he’s dead.
Mnemosyne
Juggalos beating up Nazis would be the BEST. DAY. EVER. And I would take back every mean thought I’ve ever had about Juggalos.
I can’t find the story now, but several years ago there were some animal rights activists in the U.K. who were dressed up like badgers to protest something and white supremacists showed up. The badger-dressed ladies immediately chased the Nazis away and I was so proud of them.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: I’ve completely given up on the prospect of ever seeing one. The best I’ll ever see was 80% a few years ago.
p.a.
@Major Major Major Major: trust but sanctify. uhhh amplify… uhhhh rectify… terrify; that must be it. given current conditions.
A Ghost to Not
Apparently, the resistance is a big circus tent.
/Imsoold
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA: If you can make it to the Midwest in seven years, you have a shot at seeing one.
Frankensteinbeck
@Mnemosyne:
I would rather there not be violence. I would much prefer if the Nazis ran away in pants-wetting terror of the Juggalos. On national television. While Trump complained about how scary clowns are.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Juggalos as a gang? WTF?
A Ghost to Not
@Mnemosyne:
Hah! Honey badger don’t care!
Arm The Homeless
@debbie:
Ohio Mom
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Did you see my comment above? If you are in Youngstown, google where to watch the eclipse in Youngstown. There are places giving out glasses.
@SiubhanDuinne: Earlier today (I’m pretty sure it was at Boing Boing) I saw an old ABC news clip from an eclipse from about twenty years ago. They were in Montana, where the totality was the longest, and it had been cloudy all day long. Until the eclipse and then the clouds parted. Maybe you will be as lucky.
Baud
@Arm The Homeless: Oh hey. Go Clowns Go!
CZanne
@debbie: … For the most part, they’re pretty anti-Trump. They tend to be extremely anti-authoritarian and anti-racist. They’re also deeply, deeply loyal to and generous with one another. I’ve heard them described (and I tend to agree) as the world’s most functional, organic anarcho-socialism, without a graduate degree in political science. They’re EXTREMELY weird — as in even goths and punks give them some side-eye — and they’ve turned their weird into solidarity. Think the Yippies and the Merry Pranksters, except with the internet and facepaint and far more organization and axes. I think they’d think a weekend kicking Nazi ass would be an excellent use of their time, and if they’re likely to take jail time for existing anyway, they might as well have a good reason for it.
My bet is on Juggalos.
bluehill
I wonder what the overlap is between those arguing for strict interpretation of the constitution and those arguing for a nuanced interpretation of confederate statements.
debbie
@Arm The Homeless:
Well, that answers that!
Baud
@bluehill: Ha! Excellent.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: The chances of me ever leaving CA again are slim to none.
debbie
@Baud:
I used to think, give me a flame thrower and an afternoon, and I could really clean up the world.
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I’m sad to hear that. At least you’re stuck in a beautiful state.
Baud
@debbie: I’m tempted to do that with my weeds.
Major Major Major Major
@?BillinGlendaleCA: but how will you photograph the majesty of other places?
A Ghost to Not
@Arm The Homeless: They seem nice.
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I assume it’s not a parole condition.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: It makes me sad as well, I love travel.
@Major Major Major Major: I won’t, I no longer have the means to do so.
Annie
@Kent:
Me too. But I am old. (61)
Sab
I store my off season shoes in shoeboxes in my closet. I guess I will have to sacrifice my boxes for the sake of my grandchildren’s eyes, unless someone can convince me that 5 1/2 floppies are actually safe. Cannot tell elementary school kids not to look at the sun. Have to give them a distraction. Like shoeboxes. Darn. Choice of stored shoes or blind grandkids isn’t much of a choice, but I do love some of those shoes.
NonyNony
@Arm The Homeless: I now simultaneously see why people think the Juggalos might mix it up with the Nazis and why the DOJ decided they needed to be classified as a gang…
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: No, I’m not constrained by the legal system.
Patricia Kayden
Off topic but NYT is reporting that a hacker in the Ukraine is cooperating in the FBI’s Russian investigation. Shoes continue to drop.
zhena gogolia
@Baud:
Magnetism, how does it work?
Major Major Major Major
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I’m sorry to hear that. Is it just that you don’t go far from home, or there’s something specific about California? Or we can talk about something else, like clowns.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Patricia Kayden:
I blame the eclipse.
Mike J
@Quinerly:
Try the Sun-Times:
Baud
It’s so weird. I can pull up the mobile site on my iPad, but I can’t pull it up on my android phone.
Mnemosyne
OMFG, you guys. The white snowflakes actually think that Trump is being treated worse than Obama was.
Seriously. Some distant relative on Facebook just made me look at something that fucking dumb.
Baud
@Mnemosyne:
To be fair, Trump deserves to be treated worse.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Major Major Major Major: I can go as far as my Prius will take me, so I guess I could go to northern Baja, but it’s generally not advisable to take your car into Mexico and I’d need to renew my passport. I guess the area near Vegas might be in range, but everything would have to be a day trip due to the girls.
cthulhu
The album with “Miracles” (the “magnets, how do they work” song) was ICP’s big reveal about being devout Christians. (Actually, go check out SNL’s parody song/video). It was probably the period they were at their highest level of general visibility (2009) but they have been around since 1989 and obviously have a significant long time fan base. I personally have never been impressed with their music though I do like some other rap so it is not just about the style. Regardless, the idea the Juggalos should be treated as a gang is ludicrous.
zhena gogolia
@zhena gogolia:
And of course, as an oldster, I got it slightly wrong . . . I only know about it second-hand from my students.
Arm The Homeless
@A Ghost to Not:
They’re a fun crowd
Baud
I don’t understand why Juicers haven’t been declared a gang yet.
Face
And here I thought ICP was an analytical technique for quantifying trace metals.
SiubhanDuinne
@Annie:
No you are not. (75)
(Edited for more punchy.)
Mnemosyne
@Sab:
Go buy some plastic shoeboxes and let your grandkids have the cardboard ones. Your cat(s?) can play with them once the kids are done.
eclare
@Baud: Cosign. Wow.
Mike J
@Baud:
There are two sides to this so called “eclipse” story, like everything in life.
Millard Filmore
@Sab:
There are places that will construct custom, exactly right sized, boxes for you. Save your grandkids.
Baud
@Mike J: More than two sides. Many sides.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: I understand magnets as does dmsilev and anyone who has taken solid state physics. What does Feynman have to do with magnetism.
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
Did you see a few threads down that Charles Pierce took the name Balloon Juice in vain?
Ohio Mom
@joax: Thanks, that video was helpful. I hope they remain safe, and win their case against the FBI, poor kids.
Roger Moore
@Baud:
Not a big enough rep in the
rightwrong places.Rob
@Face: That too…
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@SiubhanDuinne: I have plane tickets, hotel reservations, car rental… and predictions of overcast skies in SC. I’m going anyway. What can I do but go and hope for the best?
lamh36
Good for her for ignoring Chump’s calls. Now how soon before Chump attacks her like he did Mr & Mrs Khan?
@KatyTurNBC
Mother of Charlottesville Victim Heather Heyer Says She’s Received Death Threats, Ignored Trump Calls – NBC News
Major Major Major Major
@SiubhanDuinne: Whoa, what?
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne: no. Got a link?
dexwood
@Mnemosyne:
Not distant enough perhaps?
@Baud:
Amen.
Another Scott
@Mnemosyne: Did someone say badgers??
Cheers,
Scott.
lamh36
Someone on MSNBC making the point that while Chump is exploding above ground,, that Mike Pence is underground talking to Congressional Republicans and consoling them and telling them to keep overtly off Chump publicly so they get their legislative agenda passed.
Punchy
@SiubhanDuinne: I resemble that remark.
Baud
@lamh36: It’s worked so far.
Quinerly
@Mike J:
Well, that’s better. Thanks
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: my thoughts exactly.
karen marie
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: There’s always BBQ. Nom!
SiubhanDuinne
@lamh36:
Huh. I was just thinking (rehearsing the dialogue in my head) that my calls tomorrow to Rep. Rob Woodall, Sen. Johnny Isakson, and Sen David Perdue, would all be variations on the theme of “Why haven’t you denounced Trump’s expressed support for Nazis and White Supremacy?” They are all cowards. None of them, as far as I can tell from a quick Google scan, has said one word. Not. One. Word.
dexwood
@Quinerly:
Hey, Ms. Q. Local micro-beer time. Going to send a picture to you.
Frankensteinbeck
@lamh36:
Yes, that’s going SO well. As far as I know, Deathcare is the only thing they needed only 50 votes in the Senate for. They’ll have to replace a senator to even have a shot at that, and I doubt Manchin will join the suicide administration.
efgoldman
@lamh36:
Except they’re not doing that, effectively, either .
Sab
@Mnemosyne: Plastic doesn’t work in NE Ohio. Mildew.
Cats already have too many boxes. People live here too.
lamh36
LOL…your nightly funny courtesy of Funny or Die…
“When Harry Met Sally, 30 Years Later”
https://twitter.com/funnyordie/status/898333648704765953
NoraLenderbee
@Patricia Kayden: Do we have to go through Imelda’s entire fucking collection before we get rid of these pigs?
Major Major Major Major
@NoraLenderbee: ha!
Patricia Kayden
@lamh36: He better not. I assume she’ll eventually take his call. I hope she gives him a piece of her mind when she does and then slams down the phone.
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
Insane Clown Posse isn’t metal, it’s rap. Demented hilarious rap.
SiubhanDuinne
@Major Major Major Major:
@Baud:
Well, maybe not in vain. Maybe in tribute. I never can tell with Charlie P.
lamh36
Speaking of clowns…I may have mentioned before, but every time I see this particular trailer for the new IT movie, I swear my heart races, and I have to turn the tv or look away…I could NEVER watch the original film, and that was before all the technological advances in film since…so I already KNOW I am NOT gonna be anywhere near this film when it comes to theatres!!!
Here’s the trailer I seem to always see during commercial breaks: https://youtu.be/n0Lv_kiqQ20
Dev Null
Is there a gofundme where I can sponsor a Juggalo to go to DC to beat up on Nazis?
Patricia Kayden
@Mnemosyne: Trump deserves to be treated worse than Trump because he’s a worse human being. The MSM is finally starting to treat him with the derision he so richly deserves.
Why we had to wait so long for the media to wake up is beyond me. Trump hasn’t changed.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major:
I thought we all agreed they’re disturbing and evil.
lamh36
so Tim Scott, who’s no longer up for re-election, criticizing Trump directly.
Huh…so he finally found some balls…
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne:
That’s been true since the coup in January.
TenguPhule
@Baud:
Lack of a color scheme we all agree on.
lamh36
Pete Souza with another on pointe and just right pic of PBO!
https://twitter.com/USseriously/status/898321133291884548
TenguPhule
@NoraLenderbee:
Do you really want the answer to that?
Patricia Kayden
@lamh36: That’s how I feel about all those Annabelle trailers. Sick of seeing them.
TenguPhule
@debbie:
Just an afternoon?
Patricia Kayden
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: I can honestly say that I’ve never heard their music. I assume they’re not played on urban radio stations which sometimes play rap.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major:
The snowflake libertarians make the exact same argument, I said nothing about whether they were actually justified to do so.
I admit I am biased against clowns.
lamh36
Major Major Major Major
@TenguPhule: I still don’t see why we can’t just wear black.
debbie
@TenguPhule:
I move fast.
TenguPhule
@JCJ:
That joke about the rising flood and the fireman, the boat and the helicopter comes to mind.
TenguPhule
@Major Major Major Major:
We’d be arguing over the 50 shades of black and someone would pull out a banana.
lamh36
@lamh36: as I may have said on a previous thread… People of good will are tired of this bullshit…this may be a winning game with Chump’s base but for majority of folks…it’s NOT!!
Anne Laurie
@Frankensteinbeck:
I’m no expert, but the ‘gang’ determination (and shame on the Obama-era officials who made it) seems to have been based on AIEEE SCARY TRAILER TRASH WITH BAD TATTOOS & POOR-PEOPLE CRIMINAL RECORDS!!!! (drunk & disorderly, traffic violations, check kiting, petty vandalism). You might not want the average jugaloo for your neighbor, but if being a recreational substance abuser and negligent parent were a capital crime, most of my own kinfolk would’ve been wiped off the earth generations ago. I’d certainly rather be stuck in an elevator with a jugaloo than those clean-cut tiki-torch wielders at UVA…
ArchTeryx
This whole thing is starting to play out like the Warriors vs. the Punks scene in that hoary old street gang cult classic The Warriors. If the ICP fanboys want to kick some Nazi ass, more power to ’em.
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne: I think it may be another Prairie Home Companion-type play on our collective egos.
schrodingers_cat
@lamh36: Don’t you know that his base is all that matters. Everything is lost, this is the worst time in the history of forever and so on.
/gist of comments I have seen on Balloon Juice.
Mnemosyne
@Sab:
Blasphemy! Cats NEVER have too many boxes! ?
But you can also get canvas storage boxes. That should help prevent mildew.
ThresherK
@lamh36: Can’t we get a patriot (small p) to just run it over with their private, decommissioned tank?
Frankensteinbeck
@schrodingers_cat:
Heh. He won’t lose his base, but he’s pissing off a whole lot of people who used to not care about politics. I think voter motivation is going to be the key going forward, and if the special elections are any indicator, that motivation change is huge and vastly outweighs what polls are able to show about changing preferences.
schrodingers_cat
@Major Major Major Major: I look good in black, but no.
eclare
@lamh36: Thanks for the Pete Souza picture, epic trolling. And I can’t watch that trailer either, seems like there a few on right now that are incredibly creepy, and I always seem to find them.
lamh36
Damn…I missed this last night…
Ugh…Texas, .these fuqn’ police officers wilding the fuq out and aint’ getting in trouble for shit.
ThresherK
@TenguPhule: I have Archer’s wardrobe of black and slightly darker black in my t-neck collection.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
First they came for the Juggalos
Looks like I picked the wrong week to tour Confederate monuments.
TenguPhule
Pence likens Trump to one of his heroes: Teddy Roosevelt
First Washington and Jefferson, Now Teddy Roosevelt. Is there no president these fuckers will not defile?
TenguPhule
@schrodingers_cat:
Nazis. Fucking Nazis.
Anne Laurie
@Sab:
They make really nice hanging shoe organizers these days. Collecting pretty/expensive shoes is now a recognized recreational activity, so storing / displaying them has become a whole side industry!
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
That may be, but I am pretty positive that CPP hangs out here now and then. He knew what he was doing. DIDN’T YOU, CHARLIE??
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@Mnemosyne: Nobody brings up Obama’s scandals.
Like the time he put mustard on a cheeseburger. Or the time he had orange juice at a Iowa dinner, instead of coffee. And who can forget the time he wore a lightly colored suit during a heat wave.
The liberal media gave him a free pass on everything.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dFuYWIw5A4
Also too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2ynG5bDiOY
TenguPhule
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
I thought that was arugula.
lamh36
Notice ALL these statues and monuments to the Confederacy in states there WERE NEVER APART OF THE CSA…or weren’t even actual states unless over 50 years after the Civil War!!!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I am not a fan of Arnold Schwarenagger, have only seen a few of his movies and will never forgive him for “Don’t be economic girlymen”, for a lot of reasons, but this is good. He names the names.
Anne Laurie
@Baud:
The low-level minions responsible for collecting incriminating data keep getting distracted by pet pics, recipes, & Cole’s slice’o’life confessionals.
FlyingToaster
@TenguPhule: Oh yes. “the Laird will provide”. Lady, he provided you with the means to escape, and you sat on your fat ass and whined and drowned. Fucking Calvinist.
(In the version I grew up with, she was old and from Scotland, and the state trooper came by first, but those are just details.)
Mary G
@lamh36: I couldn’t even make it through that trailer. Omnes, if you’re reading, don’t watch it.
Kathleen
@lamh36: That. Was. Brilliant. Thank you for sharing that link!
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
tick-tock……. tick-tock……. tick-tock…….
SiubhanDuinne
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Have never been a fan of his, either as an actor or, the gods they know, as a politician, but this is a terrific clip. Thank you, Ahhnold.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
@TenguPhule: I forgot about ArugulaGate. Yet another scandal Teflon Obama got away with.
TenguPhule
The Republicans who want to legalize running over protesters
Just a reminder, the GOP wants to make this shit legal.
Yes, they want to kill us under color of law.
SiubhanDuinne
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
Oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh plz oh
Patricia Kayden
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Being “Black While President” was the greatest scandal that there Obama fellow somehow got away with for a shocking 8 years. The horror!! Now I need to lay down on my fainting couch.
Anne Laurie
@Major Major Major Major:
I love black as an outfit choice, but I live with three mostly-white dogs, a grey-and-white cat, and a red tabby cat.
You can probably get away with a certain amount of Samwise shedding on your black wardrobe, but there’s a reason crazy cat ladies traditionally wear tweeds, mixed prints, and bright florals — it’s camouflage!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
wow, Joy Reid just sucker punched that romney aide who said that the Republicans’ problem is they can’t pass tax cuts
“So… not that they’re associating with racists, neo-Nazis and net-confederates?”
He might as well be holding a steak on his eye for the rest of the segment
germy
JPL
James Murdoch is donating a million to ADL cuz of Trump.. nytimes will have an article soon.. btw the nytimes is Baud’s favorite paper.
Story coming soon – James Murdoch, son of Ripert +chair of 21st Century Fox, rips Potus response to Charlottesville, pledges $1 mill to ADL
lamh36
Wow… I missed this yesterday as well…
Patricia Kayden
@lamh36: Good. It’s amazing how so many Confederate memorials exist in this country. Shows how the majority holds minorities in contempt.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@germy: so glad Letterman’s coming back to TV, even if it’s Netflix.
Kimmel’s monologue the other day was great too.
hueyplong
Trying not to get too excited about the Sater story, but it’s a struggle.
Omnes Omnibus
@Ruviana: @SiubhanDuinne: Too fucking late.
TenguPhule
@Anne Laurie:
Wait, all you cat people aren’t actually pretending to be crazy?
Patricia Kayden
@JPL: How dare you slander Baud like that!!
TenguPhule
@Omnes Omnibus:
At least you didn’t watch the IT trailer.
Mike in NC
@TenguPhule: Proof that all those Trump fan letters coming in from 9 and 10-year-old children are actually being written by Pence.
Mary G
When you’ve lost Fox News. Maggie was so anxious to get her scoop out first she failed to proofread. Unprofessional.
Mike J
@hueyplong:
Go back to that story then click to go to The Spectator’s front page. Should cool you down fairly quick.
Anne Laurie
@TenguPhule:
I’m a lifelong fan of Mr. Roosevelt, but I’ll be the first to admit he gave the racists and authoritarians way too much assistance.
On the other hand, I’m pretty sure Teedy would’ve punched out Mike Pence multiple times, just for being a chickenshit hypocrite. And of course, as a native of NYC, he’d have been punching Lord Smallgloves going back to the 1980s. Except that given Trump’s prior history, when faced with a real manly-man leader he’d be down on his knees kissing Teddy’s… shoes.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@hueyplong: IANAL, but I wonder to what extent the actual criminal charges around money laundering are hard to prove: Thing like intent, consciousness of wrong-doing or complicity or the source of the money concerned. Cause I have no doubt that laundry services for the Oligarchs and Russian gangsters have kept trump afloat for the last number of years, along with the “reality” show, but I remember Fitzmas, and Meuller strikes as the type to only bring/recommend charges if he thinks he can get a conviction.
OTOH, and again, NAL, but I don’t know how anyone can argue trump didn’t obstruct justice. Also, attempted witness intimidation and thus abuse of the power and influence of his office.
lamh36
No shit Nate!!
germy
@TenguPhule: Here’s what I don’t understand: The lady across the street from me lives with five dogs. And she’s considered just another Good American. But if I lived with five cats, they’d put me in a straitjacket.
(We only have one cat, but still.)
Shalimar
I don’t understand the gang thing. I always thought Juggalos were more of a cult.
Baud
@Mary G: Fine. Good. But Murdoch and Maggie share responsibility for the situation we’re in.
Mary G
@TenguPhule: @Omnes Omnibus: Yes, OO, don’t watch the IT trailer lamh posted.
schrodingers_cat
@Omnes Omnibus: There is a clown in the WH, with make up, how do you deal with that?
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
@Patricia Kayden: I haven’t heard much of their music and don’t know their ethnicity for sure but think they may be white. They’re from Detroit and have a lot of fans there.
TenguPhule
@germy:
Because dogs are like needy grade schoolers while cats are like demanding teenagers.
Obviously you’d have to be crazy to want to have five demanding teenagers in fur suits.
efgoldman
@hueyplong:
I’ll get excited when there are actual indictments and/or arraignments.
kindness
I can’t believe the FBI considers ICP fans a gang. Jesus Christ that is so stupid on it’s face. An NRA mob is way more dangerous. The ICP folks will be so high they really only pose a danger to themselves.
JPL
@Patricia Kayden: I did Baud a favor cuz he doesn’t want the Hillary treatment.
WaterGirl
@Baud: That’s easy, you make a great case for Apple being the superior technology. :-)
lamh36
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Did you catch Colbert’s on Tuesday? If was re-written after the Trump presser and Colbert was on FIRE!! It was his best on the show, IHMO
TenguPhule
@schrodingers_cat:
A shaving cream pie the size of the Statute of Liberty smashed into his face.
germy
@efgoldman:
More likely from NY Attorney General Eric Schneiderman?
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: Well, to be fair, balloon juice was out there before Balloon Juice was. But Charles Pierce absolutely knows about BJ, so that surprised me, as well!
Yarrow
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
I prefer, “Tick tock, motherfuckers.”
efgoldman
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
During semi-annual refreshers at Enormous Brokerage & Mutual Funds LLC, intent was never mentioned. Violations of the applicable regulations are violations, period.
zhena gogolia
Serafinowicz (“Sassy Trump” guy) was on Colbert. He didn’t get much time, though.
chris
Whatever it takes.
Ohio Mom
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yes, a completely new side of Arnold for me.
lamh36
Like I said…people of good will are tired of the BS…what works for Trump’s base does not work for entire country…
Anne Laurie
@hueyplong:
See new thread up to — NYMag may be considered a more reliable source than the Spectator, for forwarding purposes.
lamh36
Oh…poor John Kelly…??
Cry me a river John!
TriassicSands
@Another Scott:
I haven’t given the ACLU any money since they supported Citizens United. There is an opinion piece up on the NY Times site concerning the ACLU’s current conception of the right to Free Speech.
“The A.C.L.U. Needs to Rethink Free Speech” by K-Sue Park
You might find it interesting.
There has always been a tension between free speech and various groups whose goals are repugnant to what I consider decent people. But supporting Citizens United has damaged and will continue to damage this country far beyond issues of free speech. It is ironic though that the main beneficiaries of Citizens United are people who ultimately will support candidates who will curtail free speech, not to mention other rights like voting. This is one of those cases where the cliche about the Constitution not being a suicide pact has some merit.
I think the ACLU does a lot of good, but with finite resources I have to choose carefully to whom I donate money. Support for Citizens United pushed the ACLU off the list.
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodingers_cat: Poorly.
schrodingers_cat
@lamh36: Oh please give me a break, Kelly knew what he was getting into. He didn’t become a general by being stupid. T’s views on race and his campaign’s embrace of white supremacy was not a big secret.
schrodingers_cat
@Omnes Omnibus: I can’t bear to even look, hence my renunciation of TV news.
Felonius Monk
@TenguPhule:
“Talk softly and carry a big stick” is not the same as “Yell stupidly and wave your little dick”.
HinTN
@Baud: That’s why two years ago I decided that we would go where the weather suited our clothes, aka the high desert of Wyoming. Now, if we can avoid the dust storm that Tom L described wet are gold for Monday.
HinTN
@Baud: But he knew how to tell a story so it’s out there…
Mart
Right after 9/11 my Rolling Stone magazine arrived and I thought this was printed before the horror, maybe I can be happy. ICP is on the cover. Couple paragraphs, in as I recall, words to the effect of they like having anal sex with little boys. This while the CNN talking head discussing OBL saying what a morally degenerate society we have. And then I was sad again.
As to Nazi marches, scared this is going to lead to ever escalating bloodshed. I am very fearful of what these White House authoritarians can do with their blood soaked hands, backed by endless Fox shrieking. Even as fucking horrible as the WH folks are at their jobs, those who can really push back, stand back. Imagine if we got a smart pack of authoritarians.
Jeffro
Catherine Rampell, SO on point as usual at WaPo, writing here about Republican bills that would indemnify folks who strike or run over protestors with their cars:
“…to treat [Trump] as an aberration in encouraging violence against protesters — in particular, liberals and people of color — is flat wrong. The moral rot in the Republican Party runs deep.”
Fair Economist
I’m starting to wonder if these dueling marches are indeed an accident. The Nazis want somebody unsympathetic to attack them so they can play the aggrieved defending against the “darky hordes”, and the Juggalos are fairly unpopular and don’t have the organization to keep all those young oppressed men in line. If necessary, the Nazis could easily plant agent provocateurs in face paint if needed. There is precedent.
prostratedragon
@Felonius Monk: It rhymes, it rhymes.
Lately when I have to call him something, one name I’ve resorted to is Toothpick.
Ithink
@debbie:
I haven’t heard their music as it is but have been scared to death since I was a pre-teen seeing their promo posters & album covers around on CD shops and other ancillary places; I’m not a fan of horror core/black or heavy metal in general but I know from reading up on them they’re vehemently annti-racist, anti-misogyny and anti-homophobic in their personal politics and off-stage theatrics (an anomaly for those genres)!
They’re most famous for a longtime beef they had with Eminem, over what I’m not sure @ all.
SgrAstar
@Fair Economist: but juggalos are white….
Geeno
@lamh36: I would pay cash money to see either of those movies.
Another Scott
@TriassicSands: I wasn’t aware of their arguments for Citizens United, and I do find it disturbing, but I’m not surprised by it. I think it’s wrong, and too narrow a reading of “free speech”, but they are and have always been absolutists about the First Amendment.
I don’t like all of the positions that the EFF takes either, for similar reasons.
But I support both organizations with annual donations. It’s not much, so I’m sure they wouldn’t miss it either way. I think on the whole both do more good than otherwise, and there are instances when their participation has been vital in protecting our rights.
But I agree that Citizens United was a very bad decision…
FWIW.
Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
mr_gravity
@TenguPhule: Is anyone using orange?