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Tuesday Afternoon Open Thread

by Betty Cracker|  August 22, 20173:16 pm| 150 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Assholes, General Stupidity

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I originally titled this “Wednesday Afternoon Open Thread” because it just cannot be only Tuesday. But alas, it is.

Here’s a lovely shot taken by faithful reader cope of a pre-dawn Atlas rocket launch at Cape Canaveral:

I’m on the opposite coast, but if it’s clear enough, I can see launches from over here on the left side of the state. One time about 10 years ago, several of us were having a few beers around dusk, and we happened to notice what looked like a launch trail on the eastern horizon. As we watched it climb into the sky, it appeared to separate into component parts that zoomed off in different directions.

I’d never seen anything like that — none of us had. We looked on the NASA website, which said it was a military launch and no information on the payload was available. Still have no clue what it was. But now Trump controls it.

Speaking of Trump, what’s your prediction for tonight’s MAGAt rally in Phoenix? Mine is that Trump makes the pundits who praised last night’s “presidential” teleprompter recital look like the idiots they are by letting his freak flag fly.

Seems to be a pattern with Trump: Handlers trot him out to pretend to meet the baseline requirements for head of state. Trump dimly senses that this suggests he’s less than fabulous unscripted. So he finds a way to undo it all.

At any rate, I hope everyone stays safe. Open thread!

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  1. 1.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 3:19 pm

    Speaking of Trump, what’s your prediction for tonight’s MAGAt rally in Phoenix?

    FUBAR.

  2. 2.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    August 22, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    OT – I just got a CNN news alert about Marcellus Williams. My brain read it out as “Marcellus Wallace”.

    Gave me a start, LOL.

  3. 3.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    August 22, 2017 at 3:24 pm

    Mass riots in Pheonix is what I expect.

    The President of Blank Sucking Nullity
    David Roth
    https://thebaffler.com/latest/the-president-of-blank-sucking-nullity-roth?utm_content=buffer301b0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    This is what an asshole is, and lord knows Trump is not the only one in his business, or our culture, who insistently bends every incident or issue back towards his sour and jealous self. Some of the people who do this even care at some level about the broader world, but because they are assholes believe that the solution that world’s problems lies in paying more attention to one particular asshole and his or her ideas. Trump is not one of those people. The rest of the world is an abstraction to him, a market to exploit; there is no other person in it who is real to him. They’re all supplicants or subjects, fans or haters, but their humanity is transparently not part of the equation. What other people might want, or indeed the fact that they could want at all, is crowded out of the picture by the corroded and corrosive bulk of his horrible self.

    There is no room for other people in the world that Trump has made for himself, and this is fundamental to the anxiety of watching him impose his claustrophobic and airless interior world on our own. Is Trump a racist? Yes, because that’s a default setting for stupid people; also, he transparently has no regard for other people at all. Does Trump care about the cheap-looking statue of Stonewall Jackson that some forgotten Dixiecrat placed in a shithole park somewhere he will never visit? Not really, but he so resents the fact that other people expect him to care that he develops a passionate contrary opinion out of spite. Does he even know about . . . Let me stop you there. The answer is no.

  4. 4.

    Mike in NC

    August 22, 2017 at 3:25 pm

    Trump’s performance will be possibly the most cringeworthy thing he’s yet done. Maybe if he yells long and loud enough, they’ll have to carry him out on a stretcher.

  5. 5.

    rikyrah

    August 22, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    I know it happens…

    but, the utter absolute injustice of executing someone that the DNA says didn’t do it…

    makes the blood rage.

  6. 6.

    Betty Cracker

    August 22, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I did the same double-take!

  7. 7.

    Calouste

    August 22, 2017 at 3:26 pm

    I think the shitgibbon is going to take it out on the senior senator from the Arizona by making a bad joke tying him to the ship named after his father that had an accident recently. You know he can’t resist.

  8. 8.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 3:28 pm

    Yeah, this actually happened. (Awhile ago)

    Over nearly two hours in the situation room, according to the officials, Trump complained about NATO allies, inquired about the United States getting a piece of Afghan’s mineral wealth [sic] and repeatedly said the top U.S. general there should be fired. He also startled the room with a story that seemed to compare their advice to that of a paid consultant who cost a tony New York restaurateur profits by offering bad advice.

    I don’t see today ending any better.

  9. 9.

    efgoldman

    August 22, 2017 at 3:28 pm

    what’s your prediction for tonight’s MAGAt rally in Phoenix?

    A riot, with possible small arms fire.
    No, I’m not kidding.

  10. 10.

    Insane Clown POTUS

    August 22, 2017 at 3:30 pm

    Here on the left coast, we have Vandenberg AFB. There have been launches about once a month this year. I went to watch a SpaceX Falcon 9 launch two months ago. It put up 9 Iridium Next communications satellites. It’s really impressive to experience live.

  11. 11.

    lamh36

    August 22, 2017 at 3:30 pm

    Good afternoon peeps. Left work early today, so I could start my 5 day off stretch early. Ain’t got NOTHING planned for next 5 days, just NOT having to go to work is all I need.

    BTW, someone suggested mixing white rice with the brown rice as a way to make it more appealing for me so I tried it the other day and guess what…it worked out pretty good. Didn’t really even notice the mix, ‘cept when I got a really grainy piece of brown rice.

    So thanks for the advice I will def continue mixing the two kinds of rice!

  12. 12.

    Miss Bianca

    August 22, 2017 at 3:30 pm

    @Calouste: “I like ships that DON’T run into other ships!”

  13. 13.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    August 22, 2017 at 3:32 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    Trump complained about NATO allies, inquired about the United States getting a piece of Afghan’s mineral wealth [sic]

    This dude needs to take a dirt nap, pronto. He’s too dangerous. Trump legit scares me.

  14. 14.

    MomSense

    August 22, 2017 at 3:32 pm

    Trump seemed to be highly medicated last night. If he’s allowed to go to his rally without his mood stabilizers, I think it’s going to be a wild night.

    I hate him.

  15. 15.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    @lamh36:

    someone suggested mixing white rice with the brown rice as a way to make it more appealing for me so I tried it the other day and guess what…it worked out pretty good.

    You’re welcome.

    You can slowly increase the ratio of brown to white over time to get used to it until you reach a point you figure you’ve had enough.

  16. 16.

    Gravenstone

    August 22, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    I know the feeling about only Tuesday. Came in early to try and accomplish a couple of things before an early meeting – only the be reminded the meeting is actually tomorrow. *sigh*

    Getting a crown emplaced in an hour, so I’ll be ignoring the shitgibbon tonight. I’ll catch up on the after action carnage reports here in the morning

  17. 17.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    August 22, 2017 at 3:36 pm

    @MomSense:

    I hate him

    Yup, Donald sure does have that effect on decent people. I’m really hoping he goes blind from staring at the eclipse without protection.

  18. 18.

    A Ghost To Most

    August 22, 2017 at 3:37 pm

    @TenguPhule: Tiki torches set the arena on fire.

  19. 19.

    Betty Cracker

    August 22, 2017 at 3:39 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: I really liked that piece except the very end, which I may have misunderstood.

  20. 20.

    The Moar You Know

    August 22, 2017 at 3:39 pm

    Speaking of Trump, what’s your prediction for tonight’s MAGAt rally in Phoenix?

    A riot for certain. I’m thinking multiple murders are quite likely. I’m serious. The attendees are going to be some of the most deplorable of the deplorables, the horse they bet on is losing big time, and they’re not going to take it out on the horse…this time.

    Were I Trump, I’d start taking a good hard look at exactly how safe for him these rallies are going to be after a few more months of failure. His disciples, like him, are enraged, have no impulse control and, unlike him, are heavily armed.

  21. 21.

    Brachiator

    August 22, 2017 at 3:39 pm

    Even if the MSM often fails, what is happening at the LA Times is some serious housecleaning, and maybe not in a good way overall.

    Top editors out at Los Angeles Times
    Tronc today pushed out Los Angeles Times editor-publisher Davan Maharaj (right) and replaced him as interim editor with Jim Kirk, the former editor of the Chicago Sun-Times.

    Managing editor Marc Duvoisin, deputy managing editor for digital Megan Garvey and assistant managing editor of investigations Matt Doig also were terminated Monday morning, the Times says in a web story. Lawrence Ingrassia, the paper’s second managing editor, announced his retirement over the weekend and was not mentioned in today’s LAT story.

    The new publisher is Ross Levinsohn, 54, a veteran of Fox Interactive who also had been interim chief of Yahoo.

    Duvoisin’s wife, reporter Jill Leovy, and Maharaj’s administrative assistant were also fired, the Times reported later in the day.

    The new publisher ain’t got no newspaper experience, tho:

    While never working in newspapers, Levinsohn is a media veteran. He served as interim chief executive of Yahoo at a particularly turbulent time, and before that he was president of Fox Interactive Media, where he oversaw a diverse group of digital properties, including MySpace, Fox Sports and Rotten Tomatoes.

    The idea seems to be to try to transition the paper to a digital only or digital primary version. Good luck with that.

    A media commenter noted: “From the archive, here is the post from the last time a Los Angeles Times editor was fired and replaced by a Chicago news veteran with no experience in California. His name was Jim O’Shea. He too was out a little bit more than a year later.”

    Although almost all print newspapers and magazines are doing poorly, the times is doing much worse than the NY Times or WaPo. The 135 year old paper may be done within a few years.

  22. 22.

    WaterGirl

    August 22, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    @Calouste: Sadly, I would put money on that being true. He is a hateful fuckng pig with no class at all, and he can’t help but show it.

    edited

  23. 23.

    trollhattan

    August 22, 2017 at 3:41 pm

    Buddy and I improbably caught a Vandenberg ICBM launch near the end of an eight-day backpack in the high Sierra (Sequoia Park). NOT knowing what that white streak of light piercing the evening sky in the distant west was freaked us the fuck right out. During the climb it issued a purple jellyfish-shaped formation, I presume at stage 1-2 separation and continued climbing until out of sight. The missile’s trail and fluorescent jellyfish spawn drifted in the dusk sky for a surprisingly long time while we scratched our heads at the sighting and wondering whether we were at war or somesuch. This was during the Bush2 regime so nothing would have surprised us.

    Back home I found it was a Minuteman launched at Kwajalein Atoll for an interceptor test. Ronny’s ghost was riding that missile.

  24. 24.

    Schlemazel

    August 22, 2017 at 3:41 pm

    I got to see many launches from close up while I worked at KSC, it is a visceral experience that is hard to imagine until you have done it. The Atlas is very quick compared to the shuttle which rumbles up at a leisurely pace and really rock a shockwave. Its a shame we don’t have a functioning space program any more.

    I try not to think about the Nuremberg rallies of hair furor. Took a week of vacation with no plans simply because I did not want another day at work. Went to a little zoo in N. MN yesterday, Hemker Zoo. I took some pictures and may send the to Alan for the AM posts. Have a couple of other day trips planned but nothing exciting. I am still not 100% recovered from November

  25. 25.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    August 22, 2017 at 3:42 pm

    Trump is a talentless, hideous Norma Desmond, leering into the camera with anticipation of worship.

  26. 26.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 3:43 pm

    @efgoldman:

    A riot, with possible small arms fire.
    No, I’m not kidding.

    Before or after the Nazi salutes?

  27. 27.

    Schlemazel

    August 22, 2017 at 3:43 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
    That is a sickening but true picture of our beloved furor

  28. 28.

    WaterGirl

    August 22, 2017 at 3:43 pm

    @MomSense: I know. And I hate what he is doing to me. I don’t like feeling hateful and angry, but the only alternative seems to be sticking my head in the sand, and that’s not good either.

    I laughed at ““I like ships that DON’T run into other ships!” above and then I actually started crying because it’s so awful that this cretin is our president.

    edit: apologies to cretins for the comparison.

  29. 29.

    trollhattan

    August 22, 2017 at 3:45 pm

    @Brachiator:
    Jim Kirk now at the helm of the LA Times? I’ll try to process that tidbit.

    Fact is the left coast has no paper of influence regionally, much less nationally. The Times is de facto the largest but fishwrap for the most part.

  30. 30.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 22, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    I’m relaxing with some wine in a very nice small hotel just on the Austrian side of the border with Bavaria. It is very civilized, leading me to not give two shits about the orange one or what he might or might not say.

  31. 31.

    Schlemazel

    August 22, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    @TenguPhule:
    How do you compensate for the different cooking times? I like wild rice mixed with white sometimes but cook them separately

  32. 32.

    WaterGirl

    August 22, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    Forgot to say what a beautiful photo that is up top. Betty, I really appreciate how you try to help keep yourself and the rest of us sane by posting beautiful photos of nature.

  33. 33.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    August 22, 2017 at 3:49 pm

    @The Moar You Know:

    Were I Trump, I’d start taking a good hard look at exactly how safe for him these rallies are going to be after a few more months of failure. His disciples, like him, are enraged, have no impulse control and, unlike him, are heavily armed.

    What an image. Trump slain by one of his deranged supporters by accident. Just imagine the conspiracy theories.

  34. 34.

    Brachiator

    August 22, 2017 at 3:50 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Fact is the left coast has no paper of influence regionally, much less nationally. The Times is de facto the largest but fishwrap for the most part.

    Don’t quite agree, but the bottom line is that all print media is dying, just the expiration date varies.

  35. 35.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 22, 2017 at 3:51 pm

    @lamh36: Mix in some bacon, too, if you want the brown rice to be edible.

  36. 36.

    Quinerly

    August 22, 2017 at 3:51 pm

    @Miss Bianca:
    Unrelated…just re visited the early AM thread. Thanks for the Scottish Bacon story. Could have done without the Priebus air kisses part. I was eating a late sushi lunch with lots of wasabi.?

  37. 37.

    Hoodie

    August 22, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    Now that he sees no one is fooled by his glorious plan for Afghanistan, he’ll go full Klavern mode. He’s probably pissed about having to follow the Kelly/Mattis/McMaster script, realizes it makes him look like a loser with his base, and will therefore try to win them back by mainlining some unadulterated hate.

  38. 38.

    Schlemazel

    August 22, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
    The tangerine tantrum will be safe because the don’t allow guns near him, it is everyone else that we need to worry about

  39. 39.

    Quinerly

    August 22, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:
    How wonderful! Enjoy!

  40. 40.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    @Schlemazel:

    How do you compensate for the different cooking times? I like wild rice mixed with white sometimes but cook them separately

    Smart Japanese electric rice cooker. Ours has a mixed rice setting in addition to “white” and “brown” .

    Prior to that, same cook time, but a bit more water to make sure the brown didn’t come out like rocks. We let the rice sit in the pot for awhile after cooking too.

  41. 41.

    Jeffro

    August 22, 2017 at 3:54 pm

    Let’s see…what do I expect at Trumpov’s rally tonight?

    – bashing Jeff Flake
    – bashing John McCain
    – followed by hamfisted attempt at moment of silence or similar for the sailors on USS John McCain
    – followed then by crazy talk about getting rid of captains who can’t steer
    – followed by how great he is
    – bashing GOP Congress and #FakeNews…the latter for “misinterpreting” what he said about Charlottesville, the former for not standing by him
    – thanking “his” generals for their advice on Afghanistan…and “they’d better be right”…
    – “but you know who’s always been right? Joe Arpaio”
    – pardons Arpaio live and on stage
    – tells supporters “don’t back down…just like Joe…stick with me…I am your voice…”
    – arglebargle de barglely argle (who the heck knows at that point?)

    Also, what’s the over/under on the Trumpov Sniffle Count? I’m guessing something like 45-50 audible sniffles while he’s speaking.

  42. 42.

    Miss Bianca

    August 22, 2017 at 3:57 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Just go ahead and taunt us, why don’t you…oh, wait. that’swhat you’re doing! OK, taunt us some more – what’s the wine? I’m guessing something white, given your location, but I could be wrong.

    @Quinerly: what, lassie? Ye’ll have some Scottish Bacon with yer fancy raw fish and hot green pastey stuff, but some air kisses will turn ye all wambly?? Och, fer shame!

  43. 43.

    zhena gogolia

    August 22, 2017 at 3:57 pm

    @lamh36:

    I can’t stand brown rice. Have you tried other grains, like bulgur or buckwheat? They taste better, and I assume they serve the same purpose of not being unhealthy carbs.

  44. 44.

    rikyrah

    August 22, 2017 at 3:57 pm

    @lamh36:

    so I could start my 5 day off stretch early

    SO jealous.

  45. 45.

    rikyrah

    August 22, 2017 at 3:58 pm

    @MomSense:
    Come sit by me. I can’t even stand to hear him speak.

    I hate the people who voted for him even more.

  46. 46.

    zhena gogolia

    August 22, 2017 at 3:58 pm

    @West of the Rockies (been a while):

    Norma Desmond was far easier on the eyes.

  47. 47.

    OldDave

    August 22, 2017 at 3:58 pm

    @Schlemazel:

    The Atlas is very quick compared to the shuttle which rumbles up at a leisurely pace and really rock a shockwave.

    And the Shuttle was quick as compared to the Saturn-V, or so I’m told. Wish I could have seen one of those launches. Working for a NASA subcontractor I got my hands on several passes to shuttle launches – and they were spectacular.

  48. 48.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 22, 2017 at 3:59 pm

    @Schlemazel: You wash and soak the brown rice before hand, at least 2 to 3 hours before cooking.

  49. 49.

    A Ghost To Most

    August 22, 2017 at 3:59 pm

    @WaterGirl: Just read an article that brings up the possiblity that the McCain steering was hacked. Reports of loss of steering just prior to crash.

  50. 50.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 22, 2017 at 3:59 pm

    @Jeffro:

    Josh Marshall‏Verified account @ joshtpm 2h2 hours ago
    I love how we all know “going unscripted” means he’s gonna be nuts and pretty racist ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Alex IsenstadtVerified account @ politicoalex
    Ben Carson will join Trump at Phoenix rally tonight, per 2 sources

    Something tells me he wants to talk about C-Ville. “They, the fake news, you know who they are, they say I’m a racist. Ben, am I a racist? He would know folks, believe me one of the most brilliant of the… of the doctors.”

  51. 51.

    ruckus

    August 22, 2017 at 3:59 pm

    @trollhattan:
    The Times is better than some papers, but not by much. Seems like every so often they bring in someone new to shake up the place. It seldom works out.

  52. 52.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    August 22, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    @Jeffro:

    Would he really attack cancer-stricken “war hero” McCain in his own state?

  53. 53.

    rikyrah

    August 22, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    Smart Japanese electric rice cooker. Ours has a mixed rice setting in addition to “white” and “brown”

    thanks for that info. will file it away for future reference.

  54. 54.

    sharl

    August 22, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I really liked that piece except the very end, which I may have misunderstood.

    I think an important clue in how Roth wraps up his piece is the use of #resisting. Just based on who he hangs with on twitter, I think Roth leans very left, and in following that crowd I find that they sometimes over-generalize about liberals who are closer to center (um, kind of like what I’m doing here with the lefties).

    There are a relatively few number of Trump-haters who obsessively reply to many of his tweets with long, ranting threads, until they eventually get blocked. Then, Victory!, I guess. I think lefties too often ignore the amount of mutual encouragement and morale-building that is provided within the #Resist “movement” as they organize and build protest actions, of which the use of that hashtag is but a very small component. I’ve seen very few liberals who believe that they are going to make Trump a better human or President by using that hashtag, though there is circumstantial evidence that other means of trolling might have an effect (one of my personal favorites was “President Bannon”; there were reports that it annoyed the hell out of Trump.)

    So, some lefties need to get out more, so to speak. In fact a couple of the chapo podcasters were in the women’s march in DC that took place the day after the inauguration, and were blown away by the number of people who were there. One of them commented that it would take more than a handful of angry lefties alone to make a difference…which they kind of already knew anyway, but that day brought it home to them in a very tangible way.

  55. 55.

    Betty Cracker

    August 22, 2017 at 4:02 pm

    @Brachiator: That’ll be a terrible loss if the LA Times goes down. The Village Voice is ceasing print publication this week, I think. I’m not sure our democracy can withstand the collapse of traditional journalism.

    @West of the Rockies (been a while): Very apt comparison.

  56. 56.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    August 22, 2017 at 4:02 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Ben is a “good Christian” who will find it unseemly not to see Donnie in the best light possible.

  57. 57.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:02 pm

    @rikyrah:

    thanks for that info. will file it away for future reference.

    Happy to help.

  58. 58.

    The Moar You Know

    August 22, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    What an image. Trump slain by one of his deranged supporters by accident. Just imagine the conspiracy theories.

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: I neither said nor meant “by accident”. His fan base – and there’s really no better term for it than that – are insane and violent and, like their leader, can turn on a dime and suddenly, a friend is an implacable foe. He will, failing as constantly he has, soon be in danger from his own voters.

    – pardons Arpaio live and on stage

    @Jeffro: Forgot that. Yeah, Arapio will receive a “pardon” in front of the crowd to rapturous applause and then the paperwork needed to actually do it will never cross Dumpster Fire’s desk. Like all the other “legislation” and “executive orders” he Tweets about but never get done.

  59. 59.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    August 22, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    Ben Carson the Brilliant, of the Blacks!

  60. 60.

    Jeffro

    August 22, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    @West of the Rockies (been a while): You’re kidding, right?

    McCain screwed him on his biggest wish, to repeal Obamacare. And he knows by now that McCain’s cancer is the kind that will likely kill McCain before too long. I think there’s a decent chance he’ll say something really ghoulish: “Flake and McCain, Flake and McCain…you, the good people of Arizona, deserve better! Let’s get Flake out in the primary and, well, John will be on his way out soon anyway…hopefully his replacement will understand why we need to repeal Obamacare, unlike John Mccain…”

  61. 61.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    Have you tried other grains, like bulgur or buckwheat? They taste better

    Depends on the brand. If you can get polished brown rice, its actually closer in taste to white rice because the worst of the husk is removed but still leaving enough to get decent fiber.

  62. 62.

    ruckus

    August 22, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: I
    Imagine some dumpf supporter being jailed for doing the world a favor.

  63. 63.

    smintheus

    August 22, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    Trump dimly senses that this suggests he’s less than fabulous unscripted.

    I suspect that Trump is keenly sensitive to even the smallest hint that anybody in the room doubts he’s the tippy top best ever at everything.

  64. 64.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:05 pm

    @West of the Rockies (been a while):

    Would he really attack cancer-stricken “war hero” McCain in his own state?

    Do you even have to ask?

  65. 65.

    Betty Cracker

    August 22, 2017 at 4:05 pm

    @sharl: It makes a bit more sense in light of that — thanks for the clarification. Sometimes I feel like I’m having to learn a whole new language. I have no idea what “chapo” is, for example, though I’ve seen many allusions to it on Twitter so have formed a vague notion from context. Just haven’t gotten around to looking it up yet. Someone had to explain what a rose emoji meant on Twitter recently. I had no idea, and now I’m kinda sorry I do know. [Goes outside to disperse unauthorized occupants of lawn and shout at clouds.]

  66. 66.

    Miss Bianca

    August 22, 2017 at 4:06 pm

    @West of the Rockies (been a while):

    Would he really attack cancer-stricken “war hero” McCain in his own state?

    Strangely, I have no trouble believing that he would.

  67. 67.

    Yarrow

    August 22, 2017 at 4:07 pm

    I think it’ll be a garden variety Trump Nuremberg rally. Trump will go off script in a way that typically appalls most people but his supporters will cheer. I don’t think people will get hurt. At the end it’ll be, “See! Trump supporters aren’t violent. What’s your problem?”

  68. 68.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 22, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    He is going to barf his haterade on all immigrants. That’s been his ticket since the day he announced.

  69. 69.

    rikyrah

    August 22, 2017 at 4:09 pm

    @Jeffro:

    “Flake and McCain, Flake and McCain…you, the good people of Arizona, deserve better! Let’s get Flake out in the primary and, well, John will be on his way out soon anyway…hopefully his replacement will understand why we need to repeal Obamacare, unlike John Mccain…”

    don’t put it past him.

  70. 70.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 22, 2017 at 4:10 pm

    @Miss Bianca: It’s a Gruner Veltliner from a winery down the road. A popular local varietal.

  71. 71.

    rikyrah

    August 22, 2017 at 4:11 pm

    Paul Ryan flubs yet another attack on ‘Obamacare’
    08/22/17 10:11 AM
    By Steve Benen

    About halfway through his town-hall event with CNN’s Jake Tapper last night, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) expressed his frustrations with his party’s inability to pass a far-right health care bill. “The House has passed its bill; we’re waiting for the Senate to pass theirs,” he said. “Who wasn’t disappointed that the Senate failed to pass that bill by one vote the other day? We all are.”

    At that point, Ryan was roundly booed – suggesting his assumptions about public attitudes aren’t quite right.

    But that’s not the only mistake the House Speaker made. From the transcript:

    “The reason I’m disappointed is because the status quo is not an option. Obamacare is not working…. We’ve got dozens of counties around America that have zero insurers left. So doing nothing really isn’t an option.”

    There are two important problems with this. The first, as New York’s Jon Chait explained, is that it’s the wrong argument from the wrong side of the political divide: “This was not a good argument against Obamacare, since the lack of insurers was largely a result of the Trump administration deliberately driving them out. Nor was it a good argument for the Republican replacement, the largest effect of which was to slash funding for Medicaid, a solution not even plausibly related to the separate problems of the exchanges.”

    But even if we look past the logic, the other problem is more serious: Ryan simply has his facts wrong.

    As of last week, the number of “bare counties” in the United States – counties in which there is no private insurer offering coverage to consumers – was down to two. As of yesterday, that total was just one.

    Note, I don’t mean 1 percent of the country; I mean it’s literally just a single county in Ohio – in a nation of over 3,000 counties – in which a few hundred consumers are affected.

  72. 72.

    Keith P.

    August 22, 2017 at 4:11 pm

    Anyone know what this Ivanka slur that Breitbart’s editor sent to a Bannon email imposter? CNN just reported it but won’t say the slur, and I can’t find any other mention of that story.

  73. 73.

    Gelfling 545

    August 22, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Surprised to see so much dislike of brown rice. I like it better than the white rice as it has a bit more “bite” and seems (to me) to absorb flavors from meats/veg/seasonings better. No accounting for taste.

  74. 74.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:14 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    I’m not sure our democracy can withstand the collapse of traditional journalism.

    In all fairness, they contributed to its fall of their own free will.

  75. 75.

    HeleninEire

    August 22, 2017 at 4:14 pm

    @lamh36: NOTHING planned is the best kind of plans.

  76. 76.

    smintheus

    August 22, 2017 at 4:14 pm

    @West of the Rockies (been a while): Norma Desmond was big, really big, once. Trump has never been anything but a small-time joke.

  77. 77.

    Yarrow

    August 22, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Did you see this article that rikyrah posted in the previous thread?

    ‘Go back to India’ — Chicago CEO goes public with racist taunts he receives

  78. 78.

    sharl

    August 22, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I wouldn’t bother with learning more about Chapo Trap House, a podcast that provides entertainment with a heavy dose of politics that many young people on the far left – mostly guys, but not exclusively so – really like, and often reflects their own anger and frustration.

    I actually like it myself for the most part, although despite being kind of used to their online world, it even makes me wince sometimes (e.g., the occasional Hillary hate is often waaay too much). I rarely link them here, even if I really think some portion of their stuff would be welcome, because there is usually some other part of their podcast which will be quite distasteful.

    On the rose thing, there is a history to that as well (going way back to Rosa Luxembourg IIRC; too lazy to track it down). Not only do a great many lefties use it in their avatars – including the usual faction of online assholes – but more recently maga chuds have started using it as well just to mess with the lefties. Just another day online…

  79. 79.

    Miss Bianca

    August 22, 2017 at 4:17 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Happy sigh. Sounds delightful.

  80. 80.

    jl

    August 22, 2017 at 4:17 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    ” FUBAR ”

    I was going to go with SNAFU.
    Trump will babble incoherently. if his base shows up, he’ll play to them and who knows what toxic nonsense will flow.
    I hope any counter protesters show up in large numbers and are peaceful and civil. That approach in Boston seems to have really discouraged the fascists.

    Right now the country could use a president who can help prople think through the Confederate monuments controversy. For a start, pointing out how fascists have tired to hijack it. Bill Clinton, Obama, even our previous one-of-the-worst-presidents-ever GW Bush could have done that. That job is completely beyond Trump. He can only make it worse. And will make the results worse. I read about some person in custody for trying to blow up a Confederate monument the other day. A lot of white bigot (knowingly or unknowingly) people don’t have good information on what most of the Confederate monuments really are, when and why they were put up. Trump can only make that problem worse.

  81. 81.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:18 pm

    @Gelfling 545:

    Surprised to see so much dislike of brown rice.

    Depends on the brand. There are some truly horrible brands of brown rice with full husks on that taste like sawdust due to how they’re bagged (pro-tip, if it looks like a rough brown meshing fiber bag of rice, AVOID because it doesn’t store well). The japanese brands are simply better because of quality control and they use better bagging.

    Also, brown rice doesn’t age well. The longer you take to use it from first opening, the worse it becomes.

  82. 82.

    Gelfling 545

    August 22, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    @West of the Rockies (been a while): In a heartbeat.

  83. 83.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 22, 2017 at 4:21 pm

    @Yarrow: I saw it yesterday.

  84. 84.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 22, 2017 at 4:21 pm

    @Miss Bianca: It is. The Austrians, like the Swiss, know how to run hotels.

  85. 85.

    Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA

    August 22, 2017 at 4:21 pm

    Update on Eclipse Dog, the dachshund I took home with me after the eclipse so he wouldn’t go to a shelter. The vet thinks he’s about 9 years old, he’s got a heart murmur that isn’t too horrible now but might warrant medication soon; his eyes have some clouding but his vision is fine; heartwom negative. No gray on him, perfect body weight, good muscle tone and flexibility — at first glance the vet thought he was considerably younger than he is (“I thought he still had some pup in him”).

    My brother-in-law got cold feet yesterday and won’t be taking him. I found another family, but that was before we found out how old he probably is. Not sure if they’ll still want him, but I doubt it. And we can’t keep him.

    So if anyone wants an affectionate, smart, laid back, still energetic, house trained older dachshund who seems much younger than he is, hit me up — I know a dog.

  86. 86.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    August 22, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Here’s the irony – of the current cabinet, Carson, Perry and Mattis may be the most decent human beings on it.

  87. 87.

    jl

    August 22, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    To amplify my previous comment, and ignorant bigot who thought was a good idea to erect a monument on one of his golf courses to commemorate a completely fake and fictitious Civil War battle that never occurred, is in no position to lecture the country about its history and how to remember it. But that won’t stop him. Sad.

  88. 88.

    catclub

    August 22, 2017 at 4:24 pm

    @trollhattan:

    The Times is de facto the largest but fishwrap for the most part.

    I like Michael Hiltzik

  89. 89.

    JPL

    August 22, 2017 at 4:25 pm

    @TenguPhule: John Kelly has given him a list of things to avoid. I assume that list was accompanied with a reward for good behavior. At least that’s my guess.

  90. 90.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:25 pm

    @jl:

    I hope any counter protesters show up in large numbers and are peaceful and civil.

    Arizona. None of the above will apply.

  91. 91.

    The Moar You Know

    August 22, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    In all fairness, they contributed to its fall of their own free will.

    @TenguPhule: When told that their house was on fire, the media whipped out their company credit cards and sent for a camera crew and a tanker full of gasoline.

    The combination of desire to become a celebrity (on the journo side) and make a fiscal killing (on the business side) made its fate inevitable.

    I am not sure journalism as practiced in the very narrow period of US history between the end of WW2 and the rise of CNN and Fox in the 1990s was any worse than the insane slander practiced beforehand or the right-wing propaganda it has become, but it was predictable and didn’t usually pander to the worst instincts of their audience. You can really trace when it all went to shit by one defining event: the Iran hostage crisis. The media brought down a president who had done nothing wrong and decided they liked the taste of that blood.

  92. 92.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    Carson, Perry and Mattis may be the most decent human beings on it.

    And you’d be wrong about Perry and Carson. They’re running their Departments so deep into the ground that its a wonder magma hasn’t erupted under their heels.

  93. 93.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:28 pm

    @JPL:

    John Kelly has given him a list of things to avoid. I assume that list was accompanied with a reward for good behavior. At least that’s my guess.

    Red Flag. Overweight Bull with small hooves.

  94. 94.

    JPL

    August 22, 2017 at 4:28 pm

    @Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA: Make sure you send the info to Anne so she can front page it. There are several readers within driving distance. Maybe your bil will foster temporarily.

  95. 95.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:29 pm

    @The Moar You Know:

    The media brought down a president who had done nothing wrong and decided they liked the taste of that blood.

    And now the snakes have finally found what was at the other end of that tail they were so eagerly devouring.

  96. 96.

    jl

    August 22, 2017 at 4:29 pm

    @TenguPhule: In fairness to Perry, he is still grappling with the amazing info he learned after his nomination that the Department of Energy is not a federal govt marketing board for the fossil fuel industry.

  97. 97.

    JPL

    August 22, 2017 at 4:30 pm

    @TenguPhule: Chocolate cake with two scoops of ice cream was my guess. Maybe he is holding the cell phone hostage.

  98. 98.

    Iowa Old Lady

    August 22, 2017 at 4:31 pm

    @Jeffro: You forgot “crooked Hillary.”

  99. 99.

    Miss Bianca

    August 22, 2017 at 4:31 pm

    @Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA: The Eclipse Dog? I must have missed this story!

  100. 100.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:31 pm

    @JPL:

    Maybe he is holding the cell phone hostage.

    We’d all be better off if he just shot the hostage.

  101. 101.

    Felonius Monk

    August 22, 2017 at 4:34 pm

    Speaking of Trump, what’s your prediction for tonight’s MAGAt rally in Phoenix?

    He will speak incoherently and carry a small dick.

  102. 102.

    WaterGirl

    August 22, 2017 at 4:35 pm

    @A Ghost To Most: Yikes. No one is willing to admit that we are at war with (most likely) Russia.

  103. 103.

    Iowa Old Lady

    August 22, 2017 at 4:35 pm

    @rikyrah: Iowa exchanges are in some trouble because there’s only one provider (Medica) and it’s asked the Iowa insurance division for permission to increase rates by 56%, claiming the instability Trump is creating makes it necessary.

  104. 104.

    WaterGirl

    August 22, 2017 at 4:36 pm

    @West of the Rockies (been a while): My money is on a great big resounding YES!

  105. 105.

    No Drought No More

    August 22, 2017 at 4:36 pm

    25 years ago I saw the very same constellation of UFO lights moving across a night sky in San Francisco that had been famously captured on film over Mexico City a few years before. Drove me crazy until I figured out they must have been land based lasers reflecting off the night sky. In any event, the lights moved like a bat out of hell, but would then suddenly stop, and hover momentarily, all the while still slightly moving as they hovered. They were here and gone in well under a minute, and no one else in the area saw them but me. And no, I wasn’t probed..

    Some years before, every automatic garage door throughout a huge swathe gf the Bay Area suddenly popped open one evening at the same time. A few days later some government lab around Livermore announced, “Yeah, it was us. Now shut up, and mind your own business”.

  106. 106.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:37 pm

    Washington Post has become CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!

    Is Trump making the political environment for top civil servants worse?

    “It shouldn’t surprise anyone that the hyper partisan political environment that has engulfed Washington for the past decade is a deciding factor for nonpartisan career leaders when leaving public service,” Bill Valdez, president of the Senior Executives Association, said by email. “It is becoming increasingly difficult to avoid being swept up into disputes between Congress, the Administration and the political parties as a career leader. This is a problem that has been building for long time and doesn’t show any signs of improving soon.”

    Once the wheels come off, they are a bastard to put back on.

    The Union of Concerned Scientists said his administration is “creating a hostile environment for federal agency scientists”
    Elizabeth “Betsy” Southerland, a decorated senior executive, retired from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), saying “the administration is seriously weakening EPA’s mission by vigorously pursuing an industry deregulation approach and defunding implementation of environmental programs.”
    Joel Clement, an Interior Department senior executive, said he was reassigned “for speaking out publicly about the dangers that climate change poses to Alaska Native communities.”
    Mike Cox, quit EPA after 25 years, saying Trump administration policies “are contrary to what the majority of the American people, who pay our salaries, want EPA to accomplish.”

    Seven damn months. JUST SEVEN FUCKING DAMN MONTHS.

    The difference between the senior executives’ work environment under Obama and Trump is like “comparing sibling rivalry and civil war,” said Clement. The three-year partial pay freeze and congressional sniping were problems during the Obama years, he added, but “it’s way worse now…

    Not both sides, REPUBLICANS ARE TO BLAME FOR ALL THIS SHIT.

  107. 107.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 22, 2017 at 4:39 pm

    MSNBC panel right now, Bush-McCain staffer Nicole Wallace, Reagan-Bush speeches writer and Magick Dolphin Lady Peggy Noonan*, half-reformed (to hear him tell it) Charlie Sykes, and Donna Edwards

    * newly signed MSNBC commentator. I used to complain about Michael Steele

    ETA: Now remote and recently from the bottom of a whisky barrel (I responsibly speculate) PJ O’Rourke

  108. 108.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 22, 2017 at 4:40 pm

    @lamh36: The wife mixes white and brown rice, I’ve tried it and it works well.

  109. 109.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:40 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    MSNBC panel right now, Bush-McCain staffer Nicole Wallace, Reagan-Bush speeches writer and Magick Dolphin Lady Peggy Noonan*, half-reformed (to hear him tell it) Charlie Sykes, and Donna Edwards

    The Usual Suspects overdue for a Date with the Tumbrel.

  110. 110.

    Jeffro

    August 22, 2017 at 4:43 pm

    J-Rubs, also pointing out the obvious: Paul Ryan Needs to Shut The Fuck Up*

    When Ryan says Trump “messed up,” he suggests falsely that this was a political faux pas, a poorly phrased comment. No, Mr. Speaker, what he said was morally abhorrent, a none-too-subtle wink to white nationalists. Trump says these things when freed from a script because that is what he really thinks. Ryan seems incapable of both disagreeing with Trump and holding him to account.

    Rabbi Dena Feingold, of a synagogue in Kenosha, Wis., asked Ryan whether he would support censure: “I’d like to ask you what concrete steps that you will take to hold the president accountable when his words and executive actions either implicitly or explicitly condone, if not champion, racism and xenophobia. For example, will you support the resolution for censure?” Ryan weakly protested that it would turn into a “partisan hackfest.” Well, that would be because Republicans insist on reflexively defending the indefensible. There would be no partisanship if Ryan would stop acting like a partisan hack.

    …
    Like Trump, Ryan is entirely ill-suited to the moment. When the country needs leadership, needs leaders to be bigger than party, Ryan fails again and again. He has been an enabler when the country needs political courage and moral leadership. His inability to stand up to an unfit president will remain a blot on his legacy, obscuring anything else he might accomplish.

    UPDATE: Reps. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-N.J.) and Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), who authored the censure resolution, blasted Ryan in a written statement. “By reducing the resolution censuring President Trump for his Charlottesville comments to a ‘political food fight’, Speaker Ryan has exemplified what we should fear in any leader – the failure to speak out when morally compelled to take action.” They point out that the resolution would “make it clear that the United States government does not align itself with the comments made by President Trump, and that those elected to represent the millions of Americans in the United States House of Representatives are vehemently opposed to the hate and ignorance that fuels racism and anti-Semitism.”

    *that was pretty close to the headline, anyway…

  111. 111.

    jo6pac

    August 22, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    Next time try this site, it’s free to join and you just can’t believe all stuff that in space.
    http://www.n2yo.com/

  112. 112.

    Millard Filmore

    August 22, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    @A Ghost To Most:

    Just read an article that brings up the possiblity that the McCain steering was hacked. Reports of loss of steering just prior to crash.

    That makes more sense than a GPS hack that can select for US Navy destroyers.

  113. 113.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    @Jeffro: Weak Tea until she performs a John Cole and admits she was wrong all along and converts to the one true Tunch.

  114. 114.

    different-church-lady

    August 22, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    Dopes:

    Identity Thieves Hijack Cellphone Accounts to Go After Virtual Currency

    Hackers have discovered that one of the most central elements of online security — the mobile phone number — is also one of the easiest to steal.

    In a growing number of online attacks, hackers have been calling up Verizon, T-Mobile U.S., Sprint and AT&T and asking them to transfer control of a victim’s phone number to a device under the control of the hackers.

    Once they get control of the phone number, they can reset the passwords on every account that uses the phone number as a security backup — as services like Google, Twitter and Facebook suggest.

    “My iPad restarted, my phone restarted and my computer restarted, and that’s when I got the cold sweat and was like, ‘O.K., this is really serious,’” said Chris Burniske, a virtual currency investor who lost control of his phone number late last year.

    Two things I will never do:
    a) Use my cell phone as my wallet
    b) Use my cell number for security purposes — no matter HOW MANY G.D. TIMES I GET NAGGED TO DO IT BY THE TECHNO-MORONS RUNNING THE INTERNET NOWADAYS.

  115. 115.

    Yarrow

    August 22, 2017 at 4:50 pm

    @Jeffro: Ryan won’t speak out because if he does he’ll get destroyed. That pesky Russian collusion.

  116. 116.

    Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA

    August 22, 2017 at 4:50 pm

    @JPL: I’ll be damned — the family that wanted him when they thought he was five years old and in perfect health still want him. Those people are beautiful saints and I love them.

    @Miss Bianca: I was staying in a hotel in Clayton, Georgia to view the eclipse. When I was checking in Sunday, I overheard two women behind the counter talking about someone they knew who was rehoming his dachshund — he’d found someone to take the dog, but that fell through. Turns out the man had just moved to a smaller apartment, has terminal cancer, and was going to have to take the dog to a shelter.

    I contacted my husband, explained the situation, pleaded a bit, and husband agreed I could take the dog home. He contacted his brother, who agreed to adopt him.

    So I went to see the eclipse and came back with a dog. Eclipse Dog!

    So I bring her home to find that my brother-in-law got cold feet. And Iggy hates the poor little guy, so he can’t stay here. A dachshund-loving friend found a good family for him this morning, but then this afternoon the vet estimated his age as almost twice as old as I’d thought, with some minor old-dog health issues. Hence the fear that Eclipse Dog wouldn’t have a home. All’s well that ends well.

  117. 117.

    different-church-lady

    August 22, 2017 at 4:51 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    Is Trump making the political environment for top civil servants worse?

    He’s making the every-day environment for everyone in the entire country worse. So just do the Venn diagram and there’s the answer.

  118. 118.

    A Ghost to Not

    August 22, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    @Millard Filmore: Seems really far-fetched, but two is a pattern, and we are off the map now.

    Did some google – looks like it’s a winger meme (Daily Mail, Fuxed, Newsmax).
    Humble apologies.

  119. 119.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    @different-church-lady: This is why I never use cell phones except for burner phones. Well, that and I’m a penny pincher who never understood the appeal of paying hundreds of dollars to use a damn phone with that tiny screen.

  120. 120.

    different-church-lady

    August 22, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    @TenguPhule: Does nobody have a brain in their heads anymore? Or did the Zucker-borg finally suck out the last ones?

  121. 121.

    bystander

    August 22, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    @Yarrow:

    I don’t think people will get hurt. At the end it’ll be, “See! Trump supporters aren’t violent. What’s your problem?”

    I think you’re right. I’ll settle for that, because the alternative is, “see, both sides”.

    I notice the repub talking point they all blather is referring to “identity politics and their (dog whistle here) tribalism”. The people who spew about Mexicans, Muslims, gays, and women are offended by identity politics.

    My other observation today is MSNBC trying to normalize Trump with a, “Which of the two Trump’s will show up tonight? Scripted, on message Trump? Or Trump unplugged?” As if they were actually multiple Trumps.

  122. 122.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    Does nobody have a brain in their heads anymore? Or did the Zucker-borg finally suck out the last ones?

    /Points to everyone out there bent over their cellphone to text and tweet.

    But they didn’t get me!

  123. 123.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    @bystander:

    “Which of the two Trump’s will show up tonight? Scripted, on message Trump? Or Trump unplugged?” As if they were actually multiple Trumps.

    The asteroid can’t be much worse then this.

  124. 124.

    different-church-lady

    August 22, 2017 at 5:00 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    /Points to everyone out there bent over their cellphone to text and tweet.

    At this point it’s a wonder half the population is not dead in traffic.

  125. 125.

    Quinerly

    August 22, 2017 at 5:01 pm

    So McCain was the one who gave the Steele dossier to Comey after the election. Was this always general knowledge? I feel like I would have remembered that little nugget.

  126. 126.

    A Ghost to Not

    August 22, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    @different-church-lady: This is why my family has never, and will never be on Facebook, and I won’t use my cellphone as my wallet.

    Russian hackers tried to hack my (unused) Dropbox account; they failed, and I was notified. I guess they couldn’t ask the Mercers for my Facebook data, as there is none.

  127. 127.

    Miss Bianca

    August 22, 2017 at 5:06 pm

    @Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA: aww, nice! Sounds like a sweet little guy!

  128. 128.

    TenguPhule

    August 22, 2017 at 5:06 pm

    FTFNYT:

    Black Republicans face moral dilemma over Trump’s Charlottesville remarks

    Moral Dilemma. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!

    You have a DILEMMA about this shit?!

  129. 129.

    Yarrow

    August 22, 2017 at 5:07 pm

    @Quinerly: I read it months ago.

  130. 130.

    WaterGirl

    August 22, 2017 at 5:14 pm

    @Quinerly: I have never heard this. Where do that info come from?

  131. 131.

    bystander

    August 22, 2017 at 5:15 pm

    @TenguPhule: After seeing 25 seconds of Nooners by accident this afternoon, I agree.

    For the record, autocorrect changed the plural of Trump to the possessive of Trump, and I am only guilty of failing to proofread diligently. So everyone who read the post can stop snickering.

  132. 132.

    Quinerly

    August 22, 2017 at 5:19 pm

    @WaterGirl:
    It was a throw away remark by a reporter on Nicole Wallace’s show. I had it on as background. I think Jim Vandehei (sp?).

  133. 133.

    MomSense

    August 22, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    @Quinerly:

    Yes this was reported on at the time of the release of the dossier but it’s impossible to remember everything. We’ve been blasted with a firehouse of scandals so it’s impossible to keep track.

  134. 134.

    Frankensteinbeck

    August 22, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
    I don’t think Ben Carson clears even that subterranean bar. His public career has centered around being the black person who validates and encourages racism against blacks. I think Rikyah uses the term ‘slave catcher.’ Destroying his own people, not merely as a byproduct but as the central purpose of his career, is Carson’s staggering and hard-to-imagine sin.

  135. 135.

    Schlemazel

    August 22, 2017 at 5:23 pm

    @bystander: “Which of the two Trump’s will show up tonight? Scripted, on message Trump? Or Trump unplugged?”

    These things are always total ID drumpf, no way he does not go full Goebbels and whip his little Nazis into a fine foam

  136. 136.

    sharl

    August 22, 2017 at 5:30 pm

    @Quinerly, @WaterGirl: See several paragraphs starting about 2/3 down in this long Vanity Fair article with an April publication date (but released online in March), or just do a {Ctrl-F} on “McCain” (all 7 hits are in the relevant section).

  137. 137.

    Mike in NC

    August 22, 2017 at 5:36 pm

    Since it’s Arizona, Trump will lead the mob in chants of “Build the Wall!” and “Make Mexico pay!” until he goes hoarse.

  138. 138.

    sharl

    August 22, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    @Quinerly, @WaterGirl: See several paragraphs starting about 2/3 down in this long Vanity Fair article with an April publication date (but released online in March), or just do a {Ctrl-F} on “McCain” (all 7 hits are in the relevant section).

  139. 139.

    sharl

    August 22, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    test

  140. 140.

    sharl

    August 22, 2017 at 5:43 pm

    For more on the connection between McCain and the infamous dossier, there are several paragraphs in this article (starting about two-thirds down) that discuss that:
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/how-the-explosive-russian-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele

  141. 141.

    Karen

    August 22, 2017 at 5:45 pm

    @No Drought No More: it wasn’t just one time that all the garage doors popped open, in laws had automatic door opener and it happened on and off for a month. didn’t surprise them, since fil worked for the people responsible

  142. 142.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    August 22, 2017 at 5:49 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Blaufrankish? We spent a night in Koller’s Hotel in Seeboden, Austria. They had a special wine presentation that night — the poor vitner spent most of his time with two Americans as we actually drank wine as opposed to the majority of the clientel who were drinking beer. So I got oddles of Blaufrankish, which I now adore.

  143. 143.

    Mike in NC

    August 22, 2017 at 5:55 pm

    NY Times saying Trump/McConnell feud is toxic.

  144. 144.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 22, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    @Mike in NC: strange world where two otherwise swell fellas can’t get along

  145. 145.

    Brachiator

    August 22, 2017 at 6:11 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    That’ll be a terrible loss if the LA Times goes down. The Village Voice is ceasing print publication this week, I think. I’m not sure our democracy can withstand the collapse of traditional journalism.

    Damn. The Voice had some wonderful journalists, especially some of their investigative reporters. And great writing. But I figured it was dying. There were a couple of excellent film critics who bailed within the last couple of years.

  146. 146.

    Brachiator

    August 22, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    His public career has centered around being the black person who validates and encourages racism against blacks.

    I don’t like Carson, but I think this goes too far. Carson was praised by black leaders until he became too closely intertwined with Republicans, even though his public service activities had not changed.

  147. 147.

    Quinerly

    August 22, 2017 at 7:35 pm

    @Mike in NC:
    Good. They deserve each other.

  148. 148.

    sukabi

    August 22, 2017 at 9:31 pm

    @The Moar You Know: he should really start considering his own safety* at his “rallies of hate©” since he’s managed to piss off the secret service by treating them like servants…and using up their budget so not all of them are getting full pay for time worked.

    (*Or not)

  149. 149.

    J R in WV

    August 23, 2017 at 3:23 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    I registered for an on-line Social Security access thing called “My Social Security” some little time back. Then one day I got a communique from the Social Sec folks telling me to provide my cell phone number, so that they can message a one-time password to it when I want to access “My Social Security” as a new two-phase security system.

    There are several problems with this. Does anyone think that all Social Security recipients have cell phones? 100% of them? Hells no!!

    Secondly, does anyone living outside the Metroplex culture really think that the whole country even has cell service signal access? Hells no!! Just the terrain keeps a vast majority of the world from having line-of-sight to a cell tower. Distance aids with that problem as well. Those little radios we call ‘phones are not long range devices!!

    Thirdly, I have a cell phone, a Samsung Android barely smart phone. Wife also has one, a little smaller. It lasts for days and weeks on a single charge, BECAUSE IT STAYS TURNED OFF UNLESS I NEED IT RIGHT THEN FOR A TASK!!!

    I wrote a letter to the Social Security folks pointing out those very 3 things, and also to my two Senators, Unca Joe Manchin and Shelly Moore Caito, pointing out that their current Social Security management was unable to think outside of the small box of DC and similar metroplexes and was planning to render on-line access to most retirees unavailable.

    Even when my ‘phone is on and connected (which can never be at my home, which is in a small mountain cove surrounded by stone and moss covered rock outcrops, opaque to cellphone frequencies now and forever) I DON’T USE TEXT MESSAGING EVER!!! !!! Not going to start, either, just don’t like it, don’t want it.

  150. 150.

    J R in WV

    August 23, 2017 at 3:31 pm

    @J R in WV:

    Edit to late to add: I got another letter from Soc Sec telling me that their conversion to two-phase security was going to be delayed due to unforeseen problems with Cell Phone use.

    Duh!

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