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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Y’all Can Be Jealous, But No Hating

Y’all Can Be Jealous, But No Hating

by John Cole|  August 26, 20177:42 pm| 127 Comments

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I have a watermelon guy in WV who gets the best watermelons and is an expert at picking ripe ones, and Ann Burr loves watermelon, so I schlepped four of them up here for her. I just cut this one open and you gotta admit that is one amazing looking watermelon.

Oh, I meditated for an hour yesterday. It was very nice. I didn’t even fall asleep. On Thursday I go to my first yoga class. It’s going to be me and a bunch of olds because I am a beginner and I didn’t want to be around a bunch hyperfit people doing yoga. Although on second thought, maybe I do want to be around a bunch of hyperfit ladies in yoga pants.

I may need to rethink this.

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  1. 1.

    Karen

    August 26, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    No you don’t want to be around a bunch of hyperfit women, you will go home depressed and probably sore from trying to keep up with them

  2. 2.

    wmd

    August 26, 2017 at 7:45 pm

    ABC have any thoughts on hyperfit ladies in yoga pants?

    You’re doing great. Soon you’ll have all the best tote bags.

  3. 3.

    jl

    August 26, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    Cole thinks he’ll look good in yoga pants to hyper fit hot young yoga chicks? I think different, from recent Cole pics I have seen on this here blog. I wish you luck with that, Cole.

    Next time I breeze by W By God Va, I’m willing to meet with Cole at an undisclosed location and teach him how to pick a good watermelon, so he can conduct watermelon operations by himself. For a small fee. Maybe some fresh ramps.

  4. 4.

    frosty

    August 26, 2017 at 7:47 pm

    I’m signing up for a second session of yoga at work. A mix of attendees but it does include some hyper-fit young ladies in yoga pants. Good reason to rethink it.

    OTOH, if it’s the first time you’ll be doing some Unpleasant Bending (h/t Bonzo Dog Band) after years of not so much moving around, maybe your first choice is best.

    ETA: Nice watermelon!

  5. 5.

    Baud

    August 26, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    Little does Cole know that the olds are into naked yoga.

  6. 6.

    jl

    August 26, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    And, BTW, WTF are those supposedly real Americans, in W By God VA, doing eating that G-damned seedless watermelon?
    I want my country back, dammit!

  7. 7.

    Diana

    August 26, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    My yoga studio in Brooklyn is on the third floor of an old building in Hasidic Williamsburg, and on the second floor a bunch of Hasidic guys had an office. Were they upset at seeing all these young women wandering ny their doors in bras and yoga pants?

    We found out when they put a sign on their door, where only their customers and the people going to yoga could see it.

    The sign said, “receptionist wanted.”

  8. 8.

    jl

    August 26, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    @Baud:

    ” Little does Cole know that the olds are into naked yoga. ”

    Hell yes! Baud 2020 will make history by introducing a new Presidential sport. Better than golf.

    Edit: old geezers with hot young yoga instructors, bare buck nekkid. You’ll get all of the Fox News audience eating out of your hand.

  9. 9.

    trollhattan

    August 26, 2017 at 7:52 pm

    Anybody go to a Whole Paycheck this weekend? Amazon’s takeover is official and they were supposedly dropping prices on all the “staples” whatever that means in Whole Foodspeak, and I was curious whether it was even noticeable.

  10. 10.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 26, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    Got myself(and the cave) all cleaned up and presents wrapped for the b-day girls. A friend is taking us out for dinner.

  11. 11.

    Mnemosyne

    August 26, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    Watermelon is currently my enemy. Of the 5 possible FODMAPs, it’s high in 4 of them. ? The only one it doesn’t have is lactose.

  12. 12.

    trollhattan

    August 26, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    @Baud:
    Some brainbleach over here, please.

  13. 13.

    Karen

    August 26, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    Good job on meditation; it takes time to find a way to shut your mind off and hear the heart beat of universe and not fall asleep. It can also be used as a way to focus healing energy. (oncologist suggested doing that since found that people who meditate have high survival rates)

  14. 14.

    Mnemosyne

    August 26, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    @trollhattan:

    I went last night and didn’t notice anything in particular that was startlingly lower. However, all of the shelf tags were digital, so I assume there’s some kind of global change they’re going to be able to make.

    They’re about halfway done building a Whole Foods a couple of blocks away from us. I think it’s supposed to be done this winter. It’s one of those highly fashionable retail+apartment complexes.

  15. 15.

    Baud

    August 26, 2017 at 7:56 pm

    How did you learn to meditate?

  16. 16.

    trollhattan

    August 26, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    Have to drive a decent distance to the nearest and while they have a handful of unique items I really like I never get out of there for less than $50/bag, so I don’t go often.

  17. 17.

    trollhattan

    August 26, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    @Baud:
    “Serenity NOW!”

    That so hard?

  18. 18.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 26, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    @Baud: Aw, he’s just giving spacing out a fancy name.

  19. 19.

    BethanyAnne

    August 26, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    Nothing to do here in a tornado warning. Maybe meditate? Went into the kitchen and cooked some food instead. Now I have a pot of black beans in the pressure cooker.

  20. 20.

    Bruuuuce

    August 26, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    @trollhattan: Mine is across the street from work, so I won’t be seeing it until at least Monday night, by which time they will have had a chance to make changes if they’re making them quickly. Given that it’s in midtown Manhattan (by Bryant Park), high prices were already destined to be the order of the day, so conversion to Only Half Paycheck would be an improvement.

  21. 21.

    Amaranthine RBG

    August 26, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    @jl:

    Goddamn right!

    Seeded watermelons taste so much better.

  22. 22.

    Hal

    August 26, 2017 at 8:03 pm

    @trollhattan: Monday…

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/25/546130559/whole-foods-will-drop-prices-on-monday-amazon-says-detailing-new-grocery-strateg

    Amazon is cutting the prices of bananas, butter, organic eggs, and other best-selling staples at Whole Foods’ 470 stores, promising customers lower costs and targeting the grocer’s “Whole Paycheck” nickname. The online giant also says its Amazon Prime members will get special prices and perks.

    New prices will take effect on Monday — the same day Amazon says it will finalize its $13.7 billion acquisition of Whole Foods. The online marketplace, famous for disrupting the book industry and other retail segments, also laid out its plans for combining its business with an established brick-and-mortar chain

  23. 23.

    Davebo

    August 26, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    For me, the bar and yoga pants are the only things that makes Whole Foods worth the money!

    Well that and really excellent meats.

  24. 24.

    Jay S

    August 26, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    @trollhattan: Repricing is supposed to happen Monday. ETA somebody beat me to it.

  25. 25.

    Bex

    August 26, 2017 at 8:14 pm

    You might like Dan Harris’s book, “10% Happier” about his practice of meditation He also has a weekly podcast with people who share their meditation practices.

  26. 26.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 26, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    @trollhattan:

    I heard, I think on NPR, that the new low prices would kick in on Monday.

    ETA: Evidently, several people beat me to it!

  27. 27.

    jl

    August 26, 2017 at 8:25 pm

    @Amaranthine RBG: Just to show you how this country has gone to hell and lost its way, I have to go to the damned over priced fancy pants foodie SF farmers markets to get a good old fashioned water melon, with seeds, like God intended.

    Look up how you have to grow seedless watermelons, to understand how pathetic those things are. Real pain in the ass to get a crop of those things. Artificial parasites of the melon and gourd plant realm. Down with seedless watermelons.

    Edit: helped my uncle with growing seedless for a few years a while back. Taught me to hate them. Unless they are only thing in the super market, then i guess OK to eat, if you are lucky and can find one that doesn’t taste like an under ripe squash with some weak ass sugar water sprinkled on it.

  28. 28.

    FlyingToaster

    August 26, 2017 at 8:25 pm

    I’ll be going to one of the local Whole Paychecks (usually Newtonville, but this week may mean Cambridge) to get more conditioner and crackers for WarriorGirl. Everything else I can buy at normal groceries, but there’s a serious problem with obtaining Annie’s Bunny Crackers — every store has two varieties, and the White Cheddar only seems to turn up at Whole Foods. And since a staple school snack is a mix of crackers, somebody (namely, the Procurement Officer at Chez Toaster) has to go obtain the ingredients.

    The bastids stopped carrying *my* haircare products, so I get them online. GRRRRRR.

  29. 29.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 26, 2017 at 8:28 pm

    @jl: You just like spitting the seeds at folk.

  30. 30.

    jl

    August 26, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Can put out your eye at 20 paces, son.

  31. 31.

    Amaranthine RBG

    August 26, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    @jl:

    Yes, what the hell? SHouldn’t even have to call them seeded versus seedless.

    There’s real watermelon and then there are those soulless, seedless monstrosities.

  32. 32.

    Baud

    August 26, 2017 at 8:34 pm

    Note to self: Add ban on seedless watermelon to platform.

  33. 33.

    satby

    August 26, 2017 at 8:38 pm

    I don’t like melons of any kind. The neighborhood critters are getting regular melon treats, mostly cantaloupe, from me because the sweet old farmer in the next booth keeps giving me them. Insane bumper crop of the things this year around here, they’re selling for $1 each. Way too sweet for me.

  34. 34.

    WaterGirl

    August 26, 2017 at 8:40 pm

    I just found out that Will & Grace is coming back this fall. In the previews, it looked like nobody had aged at all. That’s not right! Or maybe I just needed to put my glasses on?

  35. 35.

    singing truth to power

    August 26, 2017 at 8:40 pm

    @Mnemosyne: FODMAPs???

  36. 36.

    Ruckus

    August 26, 2017 at 8:42 pm

    @Karen:
    All of my docs tell me about mindful meditation, unaware that I’ve taken the VA course on it and it didn’t cover any ground I haven’t already been doing. For decades. I liked that they kept telling us that picturing a babbling brook would relax us, I end up sooner or later needing to pee.

  37. 37.

    WaterGirl

    August 26, 2017 at 8:42 pm

    @satby: I couldn’t pick a good cantaloupe to save my life. We do get “Indiana Melons” for a week or two in the summer, and those are hard to get wrong, but otherwise, either all the cantaloupes suck, or I do.

  38. 38.

    Baud

    August 26, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    @Ruckus:

    I end up sooner or later needing to pee.

    Sooner or later, so do we all.

  39. 39.

    Amaranthine RBG

    August 26, 2017 at 8:45 pm

    @Baud:

    I confess I was on the fence about Baud 2016.

    But I am all in for Baud 2020 given the addition of this plank!

  40. 40.

    rikyrah

    August 26, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    Meditation?
    Yoga?
    Who is this Cole????

  41. 41.

    Baud

    August 26, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    @Amaranthine RBG: Thanks. I like to pander.

  42. 42.

    eclare

    August 26, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    @WaterGirl: Nope, no one looks any older, it’s bizarre! I think it has been ten years?

  43. 43.

    raven

    August 26, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    That’s funny, you don’t look Buddhist.

  44. 44.

    Ruckus

    August 26, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    @Baud:
    It’s usually sooner if there is a babbling brook in the picture. Sometimes much sooner.

  45. 45.

    Davebo

    August 26, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    @Baud: SPITTER!

  46. 46.

    Baud

    August 26, 2017 at 8:48 pm

    @raven: If he shaved his head, he might look like Buddha.

  47. 47.

    Ruckus

    August 26, 2017 at 8:48 pm

    @raven:
    He doesn’t?
    I think he sorta looks like most every Buddha statue I’ve ever seen. At least he’s the right shape.

  48. 48.

    satby

    August 26, 2017 at 8:49 pm

    @WaterGirl: well, it’s not you ?

  49. 49.

    WaterGirl

    August 26, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    @eclare: Yep. First season was 1998 and they went for 8 years. I love Eric McCormack.

  50. 50.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 26, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    @Ruckus: The fat guy is not the real Buddha. The laughing Buddha was a Chinese monk, someone Balloon Juice, told me so IIRC.

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    August 26, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    @satby: I get you say that about all the fruit you don’t like!

  52. 52.

    raven

    August 26, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    I have a pretty extensive Buddhism library, this is the first book I’ve bought in a decade.

    “Robert Wright, the best-selling author of The Moral Animal and The Evolution of God, has written a new book titled Why Buddhism is True. Don’t be put off by the audacious title, though.

    Wright isn’t proselytizing or implying that other religions are false. This is, instead, a light, accessible guide for anyone interested in the practical benefits of meditation. There are no analyses of Buddhist beliefs about reincarnation or supernatural deities; the focus is on what Wright calls Western Buddhism or secular Buddhism, which is less about belief and more about meditation as a therapeutic practice.

    By “true” Wright means that Buddhism’s “diagnosis of the human predicament is fundamentally correct, and that its prescription is deeply valid and urgently important.” That diagnosis goes something like this: the human condition is defined by constant and ultimately inexplicable suffering. Meditation isn’t a way out of this suffering. But it helps us transcend it by teaching us to see it clearly for what it is, and by making us more attuned to our emotive impulses and the behaviors they produce.

  53. 53.

    raven

    August 26, 2017 at 8:54 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    The Laughing Buddha the email asked about is known in China as Ho Tai (or as Mi Lo Fa) and is not direclty related to the historical Buddha. Ho Tai was, according to one legend, a monk who would always carry a bag full of candies, which he gave out whenever he met up with children. He was always joyful (hence he is referred to as the Laughing Buddha). And because he was a monk, and because some Asian languages use the same word for monk as they do for Buddha, there has been confusion that he is a form of the historical Buddha.

  54. 54.

    eclare

    August 26, 2017 at 8:55 pm

    @WaterGirl: Looking forward to the reboot!

  55. 55.

    jl

    August 26, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    Let me tell you about these damned seedless watermelons. Seeded watermelons grow like weeds. I remember, on the farm, we had all the watermelons we wanted for years after we put in a crop. We’d just get what we wanted out of the field at picking time, and after we finished it we’d throw the remnants on a ditch bank where it would be convenient to have some volunteer watermelons next year.

    First seedless watermelons are hell to germinate. I remember one year, we got some seeds and then we got a notification from the seed company that they had reports of poor germination. So they were recommending that we ‘notch’ the seeds before planting. So I was sitting around with my uncles family notching these stupid seeds in a certain way for several evenings. Seedless watermelons seeds are hell to germinate. Some farmers always just start them in a hothouse, and there are all sorts of tricks.

    You may ask, if seedless watermelons are seedless, where do the seeds come from? It’s totally effed up. They are hybrids from diploid and tretraploid seeded watermelons that have seeds. Weird manimal shit going on getting those seedless watermelon seeds. You need to do immoral watermelon miscegenation to get those degenerate seedless watermelon seeds.

    Then, they don’t produce enough pollen to self fertilize, so you have to inter-plant them with seeded (aka REAL) watermelons, so the seeded pollen can help out. And that is an uncertain process. One year something went wrong, plant pattern wasn’t working, so we tried to hand pollinate. The seedless plants need more thinning than real watermelons. The quality goes to shit real fast if a vine has too many, because the plant is a kind of hybrid thing that was not designed to exist or reproduce itself in nature, is why. IMHO, a lot of the squashy unripe ‘green veggie’ taste you get in market seedless is they didn’t’ thin enough.

    Seedless watermelons: pain in the ass. In the biz, they call the little hybrid white semi-seeds ‘eggs’ which is weird and unappetizing.

  56. 56.

    Ruckus

    August 26, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:
    I did say Buddha statue. Of course John would have to smile to be him.

  57. 57.

    Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)

    August 26, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    Anybody else hope Mayweather & McGregor do a double KO and/or literally murder each other tonight?

  58. 58.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 26, 2017 at 9:01 pm

    @jl: How do you know so much about watermelons, I thought you were an economist.

  59. 59.

    BethanyAnne

    August 26, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    Pressure cookers still feel like magic. 1 hour from closing the lid to opening it, and beans that weren’t soaked are done. Magic.

  60. 60.

    Baud

    August 26, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): I’ve never seen this much marketing for a fight.

  61. 61.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 26, 2017 at 9:03 pm

    I am watching the GG Netflix show, Rory has been even more annoying that she was in the last 2 seasons.

  62. 62.

    Davebo

    August 26, 2017 at 9:03 pm

    @jl: Don’t tell me about the pain, just show me the baby.

  63. 63.

    Baud

    August 26, 2017 at 9:03 pm

    @BethanyAnne: You can’t explain that.

  64. 64.

    raven

    August 26, 2017 at 9:04 pm

    @BethanyAnne: I use mine all the time but I managed to burn some blackeye peas the other night.

  65. 65.

    Ocotillo

    August 26, 2017 at 9:04 pm

    Going to be in Cincinnati for a very quick turnaround next weekend. Meeting up with stepson, wife and 2 year old granddaughter. Looks like we are going to the aquarium (granddaughter controls this) lol. Anything to be sure and not miss?

  66. 66.

    mai naem mobile

    August 26, 2017 at 9:04 pm

    I dunno…JC and yoga has ER visit written all over it.

  67. 67.

    Baud

    August 26, 2017 at 9:05 pm

    @jl: I blame Obama.

  68. 68.

    jl

    August 26, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Central Valley farming family background,. Kin have some places from down SW of Fresno up through Stockton. And an outpost in Napa County.

  69. 69.

    Steve

    August 26, 2017 at 9:07 pm

    Just have coffe next to Yagapants place.

  70. 70.

    jl

    August 26, 2017 at 9:09 pm

    @Baud:

    Baud 2020! Real Watermelon! Real corn on the cob! Real beef patties!, Hot chicks in yoga pants!

    is that too long?

  71. 71.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 26, 2017 at 9:10 pm

    @mai naem mobile: Head stand, anyone?

  72. 72.

    efgoldman

    August 26, 2017 at 9:10 pm

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD):

    Anybody else hope Mayweather & McGregor do a double KO and/or literally murder each other tonight?

    I’m SO sick of hearing about it. If there were a way for them both to lose….
    And i grew up watching the Friday/Saturday night fights on TV. One of the few things my dad and I did together.

  73. 73.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 26, 2017 at 9:10 pm

    @Baud: New campaign slogan, Seeded watermelons for all.

  74. 74.

    lamh36

    August 26, 2017 at 9:12 pm

    @WaterGirl: well, McCormack def has aged a bit ’round the eyes, but Messing, Hayes & Mullally…do look darn near ageless….

    But then again are we really surprised that Jack and Karen, I mean Anastasia Beeverhausen, would not allow themselves to age…lol

  75. 75.

    raven

    August 26, 2017 at 9:12 pm

    @efgoldman: Gillette Cavalcade of Sports – Boxing

  76. 76.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    August 26, 2017 at 9:14 pm

    @efgoldman: the best fight in memory was Thursday’s brawl btn the Tigers and the Yankees.

  77. 77.

    zhena gogolia

    August 26, 2017 at 9:14 pm

    Just watched “Royal Wives at War.” Gina McKee and Emma Davies were wonderful as Wallis Simpson and Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon. But the commentary was bad!

  78. 78.

    lamh36

    August 26, 2017 at 9:15 pm

    Spent the early part of my day, running errands and cleaning house, the family who are going to DC with me in a month are all coming to my crib to finalize some of our trip plans.

    The rest of my day, was spend watching Roadhouse of all things…I was in a Patrick Swayze kinda of mood. And as I do oftentimes, I was live-tweeting as I watched it…lol

    Finished watching bout 30 mins ago and just caught the final 30 mins of Face/Off. I gotta say, the final boat scene in #FaceOff is STILL really fun to watch! Great stunt work & camera work

    Face/Off – Boat Chase https://youtu.be/7NdWKdlue-Q

    Also too, Face/Off may just be my fav Travolta movie after Grease. It’s def one of my fav Nic Cage movies

  79. 79.

    Ivan X

    August 26, 2017 at 9:15 pm

    That is a beautiful watermelon.

    But fuck you (meaning, congratulations) for meditating for an *hour*. I lose my mind from boredom in a minute and a half, and then feel like a failed person for having done so.

  80. 80.

    raven

    August 26, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: The Motor City Cobra and Marvelous Marvin were pretty good.

  81. 81.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    August 26, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    @lamh36: I love how political Messing is on twitter.

  82. 82.

    raven

    August 26, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    @lamh36: Better than Pulp?????

  83. 83.

    WaterGirl

    August 26, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    Cole, you inspired me to cut into the watermelon I picked up at the farmer’s market this morning. (seeded) Best watermelon I have had in years. Yay!

  84. 84.

    raven

    August 26, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    @WaterGirl:Lincoln Square?

  85. 85.

    Gravenstone

    August 26, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    Visiting my stepdad and poking around the old farm house. I found a copy of “Trump (the game)” sitting in a closet. My temptation to grab it for a ceremonial bonfire is rather strong. Maybe even worth recording the event for posterity.

  86. 86.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    August 26, 2017 at 9:21 pm

    @raven: True.

    Another great baseball brawl was btwn Atlanta and the Padres in 1984.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=braves+padres+brawl+1984

  87. 87.

    raven

    August 26, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: That’s the year I moved here. Motherfucker thought it was a good idea to take on Champ Summers!

  88. 88.

    Amaranthine RBG

    August 26, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    @Baud:

    When you pander to me, it seems like you really care about the things I do.

    I like that.

  89. 89.

    WaterGirl

    August 26, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    @raven: Yep! This summer I haven’t seen your long-white-haired buddy who plays an instrument for the kids – is he still okay?

  90. 90.

    Karen

    August 26, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    @Ruckus: I learned to meditate back in the 70’s, used candle flame for focus to start with; the hardest part I found was shutting off my mind. For a time the harder I tried to not allow mind to hold internal dialog the worse it got until was like a hamster going at full speed on wheel. I had all kinds of different suggestions; what clicked for me was something simple, watching a baby sleep. Once I learned that “switch” I learned how to turn it off and then come back again. I have people who tell me all these things you are suppose to do, none of them ever worked. The babbling brook idea would probably send me to bathroom.

  91. 91.

    jl

    August 26, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    @Amaranthine RBG: Thanks for explaining politics to Baud. He needs help with that for his next presidential run.

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    Quinerly

    August 26, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    RIP…a good Dem from Idaho: http://magicvalley.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/former-gov-andrus-dies-at/article_36b3fb42-351c-5c7b-8a8a-d58d0fb41a5c.html

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    raven

    August 26, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    @WaterGirl: He was really a friend of a friend. J Michael Powers I think he was sick but I haven’t heard.

    He has a Facebook page but it doesn’t say.

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    WaterGirl

    August 26, 2017 at 9:31 pm

    @raven: That’s him! The kids adore him.

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    MomSense

    August 26, 2017 at 9:32 pm

    @Baud:

    Yoga grannies sans panties!

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    lamh36

    August 26, 2017 at 9:32 pm

    @raven: not a big fan of Tarantino…so I barely watched Pulp Fiction…had no interest

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    raven

    August 26, 2017 at 9:34 pm

    @lamh36: Got it, the dance scene is worth a gander.

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    CZanne

    August 26, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    @Ivan X: There is meditation in labor, too. Haul water, chop wood is a valued meditational practice, too, or labore est orare (work is prayer). If you can’t get into the headspace by “don’t just do something, sit there,” try “don’t just sit there, do something repetitive.” Meditation is one of the hardest tricks for the ADD brain to figure out, so the training wheels version is weeding a garden or trimming shrubbery or needlework or painting walls.

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    raven

    August 26, 2017 at 9:36 pm

    @CZanne: or swimming laps

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    Chet Murthy

    August 26, 2017 at 9:36 pm

    @Ivan X: I also suck at meditation. But a similar effect (it seems) is achievable with endurance sports. I’ve been swimming a lot, and as long as you can swim slowly enough that you don’t get out of breath or tire out the joints, the necessity to actually focus on the mechanics seems to “make me present” enough that I can push out all thoughts of …. well, you know, the clutter that meditation is meant to push out. I’m sure the same thing would work with running or biking, though it could be a lot more dangerous there. The problem for us old feebs, is that “slow enough” is real slow.

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    raven

    August 26, 2017 at 9:37 pm

    @Chet Murthy: great minds

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    lamh36

    August 26, 2017 at 9:37 pm

    @raven: seen it…still meh on the movie though…

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    BethanyAnne

    August 26, 2017 at 9:37 pm

    @Baud: beans go in, beans come out

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    eclare

    August 26, 2017 at 9:38 pm

    @raven: Haven’t watched much by Tarantino, but Pulp Fiction is one of my faves. Still remember being shocked when a friend told me how long it was, almost three hours. Was stunned because it flew by. Trivia: if the scenes were played out chronologically, the last line would be “Zed’s dead baby, Zed’s dead”.

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    raven

    August 26, 2017 at 9:39 pm

    @eclare: Jackie Brown is really good too.

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    eclare

    August 26, 2017 at 9:40 pm

    @raven: Saw that years ago, definitely worth a rewatch! Pulp Fiction gets to Netflix in September!

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    Origuy

    August 26, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    @Ocotillo: I thought the National Underground Railroad Freedom Center was fascinating, but I don’t know how your granddaughter would like it.

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    mai naem mobile

    August 26, 2017 at 9:45 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: I was thinking more of the Steve Bannon move but with JC it really could be anything.

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    The Thin Black Duke

    August 26, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    @raven: And, to my way of thinking, Tarantino’s last great movie.

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    HinTN

    August 26, 2017 at 10:03 pm

    @trollhattan: Starts tomorrow, or maybe today. Not in evidence yesterday.

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    HinTN

    August 26, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    @Mnemosyne: That’s what it looks like in Denver.

  112. 112.

    schrodingers_cat

    August 26, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    @mai naem mobile: What’s the Steve Bannon move?

  113. 113.

    scav

    August 26, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    @Chet Murthy: From what I understand, walking, breathing, yoga poses, all sorts of things can serve as the focus. The hard bit is quieting the mind. Breathing seems to work best (admittedly not great) for me — luckily it tucks into all those other things (so I can keep trying. Pious thought. At least making an attempt can sometimes break the brain going in a undesirable direction.)

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    Ruckus

    August 26, 2017 at 10:10 pm

    @Karen:
    Everybody is different. OK not all that different but what works for me isn’t necessarily what works for you. If my mind is going 90 mph in ten different directions then nothing really works. I have to sit down and slow down first. OK that’s not all true motorcycle racing used to work to focus the mind for me as well. Didn’t relax my mind but did teach me how to focus to the exclusion of everything else and to relax the body. I don’t recommend it as a meditation process. Though it can be a lot of fun and a good way to learn problem solving on the fly. I can still remember races from 40+ yrs ago, lap by lap.
    Back to your original point, the switch. I think once you find it it’s like a key or a switch, you just turn it/click it and it works. There is a brain process, alpha wave generation, which are the signals that you send to muscles when you want to relax them. You can learn to do that more generally than say relaxing a finger and one of the ways I’ve used to describe it is to just drop your shoulders. That’s creating a large alpha wave signal to your body to relax. It’s easier to do standing but can be done at any time your torso is vertical. Find that key and you are at least half way to getting to relaxing your mind.

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    HinTN

    August 26, 2017 at 10:12 pm

    @raven: In one way or another, it’s always about this veil of tears.

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    HinTN

    August 26, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    @Ocotillo: Beer garden(s) in the hospital district. Seriously!!@

  117. 117.

    CZanne

    August 26, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    @raven: @Chet Murthy: When we get salt water at 6000 feet, I’ll add that to the list. But enough other people (plus me!) get the 12 hour itchies from 50 minutes in the chlorine pool, which rather defeats the purpose of the peace found in the water. But running, hiking, walking, stationary bikes, exercise…

    With ADD brains (and a lot of PTSD brains, which is what I deal with, and why I latched onto training wheels meditation), there’s often enough already extant guilt and shame surrounding exercise, focus, maintaining a schedule or routine, and/or failure that just saying “Cardio type exercise” is a setup for more failure, guilt, and shame. Since ADD and PTSD brains often behave erratically while doing something that the bad brain tapes can interpret as selfish, training wheels is to do something repetitive that is much harder to interpret as selfish.

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    mai naem mobile

    August 26, 2017 at 10:26 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: it’s what The Mooch said Bannon was doing.

  119. 119.

    Karen

    August 26, 2017 at 10:38 pm

    @Ruckus: I agree, the hard part is finding that switch; once you find it and can reliable use it then meditation is no longer a chore. I don’t remember if I read it first or was told it; but you can heal your body through use of meditation; I remember an article in Reader’s Digest, early 70’s about fighting cancer using meditation. The author said that he pictured his cancer cells as sheep and then pictured wolves as attacking and killing those cells; according to article he did that and change his diet so that was no longer eating any processed foods.
    I have had people ask me how to find switch, and I can’t really tell them since it was in just “there”

  120. 120.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 26, 2017 at 10:41 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Auto-fellatio, per the Mooch.

  121. 121.

    Ruckus

    August 26, 2017 at 10:45 pm

    @Karen:
    I’ve shown a bunch of people the shoulder relaxation thing and it starts them on the path pretty easily. Relax the body, relax the mind. Most do have to practice a bit at first but it comes quicker than anything else I’ve seen.

  122. 122.

    J R in WV

    August 26, 2017 at 11:33 pm

    @Amaranthine RBG:

    Can you share your recipe for watermelon pie with us? More pie information tha I ever knew was out there. Keep up the Pie Education plan, A. RBG…

    Um, is that mincemeat pie I smell?!?!?

  123. 123.

    catclub

    August 26, 2017 at 11:35 pm

    @Baud: I was interested to read that Mayweather scheduled this fight to do maximum damage to HBO’s upcoming fight promotion. He holds a grudge from long ago – and can act on it.

  124. 124.

    Chitown Kev

    August 27, 2017 at 1:12 am

    Few things taste as divine as a very cold and juicy watermelon on a very hot and humid day…in fact, very hot and humid days are the only time that I eat watermelon…so I’m a little jealous, John Cole that the watermelon does look good but it isn’t hot enough here in Chicago for me to be hatin’

  125. 125.

    central texas

    August 27, 2017 at 12:45 pm

    The watermelon looks wonderful and reminds me of my great-grandfather. Much of the family lived/lives in WV but he had a farm across the Ohio R in bottomlands that grew wonderful melons. His delight was to feed small children large slices from huge green-almost-black skinned watermelons and laugh as we tried to eat out of hand what we could barely lift. Best watermelon I’ve ever had, though it is nice that here in central Texas we get ripe ones earlier and longer; just not better.

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    Pluky

    August 27, 2017 at 3:37 pm

    @satby: too sweet? dress them in vinegar and cracked black pepper.

  127. 127.

    Silver Wolf

    August 29, 2017 at 12:48 pm

    Maybe you can get some pity attention from the ladies.

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