Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Relentless negativity is not a sign that you are more realistic.

We do not need to pander to people who do not like what we stand for.

“In the future, this lab will be a museum. do not touch it.”

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

“In this country American means white. everybody else has to hyphenate.”

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

Their boy Ron is an empty plastic cup that will never know pudding.

T R E 4 5 O N

Hi god, it’s us. Thanks a heap, you’re having a great week and it’s only Thursday!

Prediction: the gop will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

Of course you can have champagne before noon. That’s why orange juice was invented.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

One way or another, he’s a liar.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

People really shouldn’t expect the government to help after they watched the GOP drown it in a bathtub.

One of our two political parties is a cult whose leader admires Vladimir Putin.

You know it’s bad when the Project 2025 people have to create training videos on “How To Be Normal”.

Find someone who loves you the way trump and maga love traitors.

He really is that stupid.

Every reporter and pundit should have to declare if they ever vacationed with a billionaire.

I swear, each month of 2025 will have its own history degree.

My right to basic bodily autonomy is not on the table. that’s the new deal.

Reality always lies in wait for … Democrats.

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  4. 4.

    The Thin Black Duke

    Huh. So, whatever few bread crumbs of goodwill that Donald managed to salvage from the obligatory photo ops of him handing out food and hugging children in Houston just got pissed away. Again. Jesus. Trump is the Monkey’s Paw of politics, ain’t he?

  7. 7.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    Why in the fuck does Politico need a one-second animated logo?! I thought that was some informative snippet and couldn’t understand why it never got started.

    Oh, and fuck Donald Trump. Fuck him up his stupid ass. (H/t Corner Stone, hope he and his are safe and dry.)

  8. 8.

    Jeffro

    But…but he hugged someone and …and he said nice things on his second trip to Texas a couple days ago!

    ah well, gotta fluff that Neanderthal base, amirite there Trumpy baby?

  9. 9.

    Gravenstone

    Not like this should be a surprise to anyone paying attention. Aside from maybe the delay rather than immediate suspension of the act.

  10. 10.

    ? Martin

    We had a meeting about this last week. Most of the room thought it was unlikely to be ended. I disagreed – Trump believes that when you’re stuck in a hole, the only way out is to dig faster.

  12. 12.

    PaulWartenberg

    to every Latino who still voted Republican in the November elections: You still haven’t figured out what Black voters figured out since 1980, that the GOP is gonna fuck your ethnicity over until you’re dead, in prison, or both.

    trump is intentionally kicking out thousands if not millions of people who think of themselves as American, who serve this nation as soldiers, nurses, doctors, teachers, drivers, workers, or are studying in colleges so they can do any of that. This is not because they are criminals, it is not because they are a drain on our social safety net, this is not because they’re plotting to overthrow the government. It is because trump and his ilk are a bunch of ignorant close-minded racists who get off on hurting others.

  14. 14.

    Mike in NC

    Are there actual photos of Fat Bastard hugging flood victims in Houston? Because he’s a paranoid germophobe who often won’t even shake hands with foreign officials. Killing DACA was always 99.9% going to happen since it was something Obama approved.

  15. 15.

    The Dangerman

    Nobody should be surprised. Pissed? Sure. Surprised? Please.

    Now, on to how Trump fucks things up so he can get the wall funded.

  17. 17.

    Gravenstone

    @? Martin: I suspect all the people telling him to preserve the program only helped to harden his attitude against it as well. Because if there’s one thing he’s shown time and again is a deeply ingrained sense of “you’re not the boss of ME!”.

  21. 21.

    schrodingers_cat

    These so called WH officials have been fear mongering about the DACA decision for the last two weeks. I don’t see anything on Wash Post or the Twitter feeds of the immigration lawyers I follow.

  24. 24.

    Percysowner

    @PaulWartenberg:

    to every Latino who still voted Republican in the November elections: You still haven’t figured out what Black voters figured out since 1980, that the GOP is gonna fuck your ethnicity over until you’re dead, in prison, or both.

    Now, now Michael Steele, Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas never figured it out. Or if they did, they decided LOWER TAXES was worth working with people who think they are subhuman.

  25. 25.

    MisterForkbeard

    @WaterGirl: Nah, it’s so that Trump and the Republicans can spend 6 months feeding off the fear of a few million Americans who are going to be deported.

    For a lot of these fuckers, causing fear and suffering is a big positive if it’s against their enemies. You know, brown people, women and democrats.

  26. 26.

    Adam L Silverman

    @WaterGirl: No, if you go to the article it is clearly intended to make Congress do something. At least that is how it is being presented. Who knows why the President really did it. Now we’ll find out if Speaker Ryan can put his money where he put his mouth Friday morning.

  27. 27.

    JPL

    Rep. Joe Kennedy III
    It’s a cruel hand that extends the American dream and then steals it away.
    With a fierce faith in our country’s word, #DREAMers walked out of the shadows & embraced the only home they’ve ever known.
    In contrast, @POTUS tonight gave in to his own dark fear of diversity & punished them for simply trusting the United States.

  28. 28.

    schrodingers_cat

    @JPL: Thanks, do you have a link to the official announcement? Lawyers of Balloon Juice, what are the steps necessary in rescinding DACA? I am not seeing anything on the USCIS website either.

  34. 34.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Adam L Silverman: Ryan was saying a few days ago that Congress would take it up eventually.

    That said, I imagine this is so they can pressure democrats to go along with screwing DACA recipients.If the alternative is deportation, they’re betting Dems will agree to something like never letting them have citizenship but still letting them stay. It’d give them some political cover.

  39. 39.

    Brachiator

    @JPL:

    In contrast, @POTUS tonight gave in to his own dark fear of diversity & punished them for simply trusting the United States.

    Rep Kennedy speaks with eloquence and sincerity.

  40. 40.

    Spanky

    I’m certainly all for Trump fucking himself up his own ass, but this is fucking Politico, and I haven’t seen any other outlet making the same claim. Just sayin’.

  41. 41.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    Just a reminder that Melania is an illegal immigrant, as the turd cherry on top of this shit sundae.

  42. 42.

    Adam L Silverman

    @MisterForkbeard: I have no idea what he’ll try to do. They could have taken this whole thing off the table, and preempted the President from having anything viable to run on, had they passed comprehensive immigration reform back in 2013. But Ryan was too craven to try and capitulated to the Freedom Caucus working in conjunction with then Senator Sessions, his speech writer and policy hack Stephen Miller, and Steve Bannon and Breitbart.

  45. 45.

    PsiFighter37

    Reading this news in the heart of Berniebro territory in Burlington…delightful.

    Of course the GOP won’t pass a bill, and this will let Trump send ICE around the country to round up a bunch of young kids.

  48. 48.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Spanky: The Politico article states the following:
    politico.com/story/2017/09/03/trump-dreamers-immigration-daca-immigrants-242301

    Conversations with Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who argued that Congress — rather than the executive branch — is responsible for writing immigration law, helped persuade the president to terminate the program, the two sources said, though White House aides caution that — as with everything in the Trump White House — nothing is set in stone until an official announcement has been made.

  49. 49.

    Adam L Silverman

    @rikyrah: If it is a clean bill. But the odds of them doing it as they go into an election year is slim.

    The most likely, though stupid play, is to do a three month continuing resolution to give them time to finish the appropriations process by DEC and then pass that. They won’t. They’ll get to December and still not have broad enough consensus on the appropriations to get it done. So that’s going to eat up the Fall legislative session. Then they’ll get to December and there will be pressure not to shut the government down because it’s Christmas. So either another short term CR or a long term, omnibus CR to get them through to the end of Fiscal Year 2018. This is what they should do on their first day back next week. Followed by a clean debt ceiling raise. That gets them out from under so they can work on Harvey (and possibly Irma) and wildfire relief for Texas, Louisiana, California, Oregon, Idaho, etc. And then whatever else they want to try, like tax reform.

    But they’re not going to do that. The GOP majorities in both chambers are going to screw themselves into the floor every day and then spend all night unscrewing themselves so they can start again the next day.

  50. 50.

    barb 2

    Deport the first”lady” — I’d bet she is here illegally. No proof that she met all the “rules” — where are her papers? Too many dodgy details — sort of like shitgibbon’s tax returns — what tax returns? Dumb bitch married him — she will never be off limits.

    Josh Marshall –
    has a great piece up — about Trump’s lack of empathy. He has zero empathy — and he can’t even fake it. It wasn’t part of his upbringing. Empathy is either learned or innate — parents teach children empathy and encourage empathy.

    Trump voters also lack empathy — now I understand how the Germans and others stood by as the Jews and Gypsies were herded into the Concentration camps. How could humans do that to other humans beings? Look at the a-holes who voted for the Chief parasitic Nazi. It is distressing to know that there are so many Nazi wannabes in the US.

    I’d say — God/dess help us all — but I don’t believe in a sky god. Just maybe KU.

  53. 53.

    schrodingers_cat

    First of all before you hit the panic button wait for the official announcement. There are lot of things that are not clear. Miller and his ilk have been trying to seed the media with the imminent revocation of DACA for the last two weeks. Bettty Cracker had a post this was the breaking news on Fox, a few days ago.
    If you live in the 9 states whose AGs have are threatening to sue the Federal Govt to force it to end DACA, call them or tweet.

  55. 55.

    Brachiator

    @Jeffro:

    ah well, gotta fluff that Neanderthal base, amirite there Trumpy baby?

    Trump is not just trying to please his base. He is not a traditional politician making traditional politician moves.

    Also, some pundits and others who thought that Trump might soften his views after getting rid of Bannon failed to understand the larger point.

    Trump himself is fundamentally a bigot who believes that illegal aliens don’t deserve to be here, period, especially if they are Latino. He also wants to slow down the processing of visas and citizenship applications of legal alien immigrants. And of course he wants to limit and discourage non-white immigration. And this is all before you get to his anti Muslim fervor.

    In his beliefs and action here, Trump is at one with his base. He agrees with them 100 percent and is hot to deliver on his promises to them.

    ..

  58. 58.

    cain

    The drum beat for a complete take over of congress is only getting louder. We need to get the House and then we will fuck over this President, this worm of man, whose cruelty shows no bounds, and we’ll fuck him till he is nothing but a slobbering basketcase, lying naked on the front lawn of the White House for all to see, point, and ridicule. A public spectacle, that he deserves.. his humiliation the balm needed to soothe the pain of the last 8 months.

  60. 60.

    Spanky

    @schrodingers_cat:

    If you live in the 9 states whose AGs have are threatening to sue the Federal Govt to force it to end DACA, call them or tweet.

    The Tennessee AG is backing out. Does that make it 8?

  62. 62.

    jimmiraybob

    Has anybody started the Sheriff David Clarke and Sheriff Joe Arpaio speculation yet? Both out of a job. Both are sadistic and without any apparent empathy or conscience. Perfect fit. Somebody’s gonna have to manage things on the ground.

  64. 64.

    Brachiator

    @schrodingers_cat:

    First of all before you hit the panic button wait for the official announcement.

    Yeah, good point. I have tried to ignore the rumors and speculation about what Trump might do.

    Still, my own judgement is that wherever possible Trump will choose the path of bigotry.

    ..

  68. 68.

    Adam L Silverman

    @jimmiraybob: Clarke won’t get a job of any consequence with the Administration. The plagiarism issues with his masters thesis and that Naval Postgraduate School has yanked it and is working through the process to pull his actual degree, are disqualifying for a clearance. Also, the legal, and therefore, financial jeopardy he is in because of the lawsuits he’s facing from his tenure as sheriff are also going to be a big red flag for the clearance investigators and adjudicators. Arpaio apparently has been involved in a number of shady business deals during his tenure as sheriff. Equally disqualifying for a clearance.

  69. 69.

    Spanky

    OT: I just had an email hit my Junk folder from “Dr. Fungus”. Wouldn’t bother with what he was selling, but if you’re looking for a new nym ….

  70. 70.

    Another Scott

    @Brachiator:

    Trump himself is fundamentally a bigot who believes that illegal aliens don’t deserve to be here, period, especially if they are Latino.

    Nope. You’re mistaken if you think Trump cares about “illegals”.

    Trump Tower was built with undocumented workers.

    The only thing Trump cares about is himself. Obama’s more popular, and Obama made fun of him, so Obama’s legacy has to be destroyed.

    That’s what this is about.

    Sure, he’s racist, but it didn’t stop him from using “illegals” to build his building (and he loves having foreign workers at his hotels, etc.)….

    It’s all lizard-brain thinking with Donnie.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  71. 71.

    efgoldman

    @Brachiator:

    wherever possible Trump will choose the path of bigotry.

    That, but even more he’ll choose mindlessly and reflexively to undo whatever Obama did,

  72. 72.

    Adam L Silverman

    @JPL: Here you go:
    heraldcourier.com/news/who-were-the-first-soldiers-to-die-in-the-afghanistan/article_fb302482-1d59-5…

    On March 21, 2003, Marine Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez, 22, of Lomita, Calif., became the first combat casualty of the war in Iraq.

    Gutierrez, who was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment of the 1st Marine Division at Camp Pendleton, Calif., was killed in action in southern Iraq.

    His story is what America is about.

    Gutierrez was an orphan on the streets of Guatemala City, where he learned about America from the minister at a children’s shelter. At 14, he made his way to California by hopping freight trains and walking.

    After being raised in California foster homes, Gutierrez joined the Marines to make money for college and to send to his sister in Guatemala.

    While Gutierrez was the first combat death, two other deaths happened two days later in a bizarre attack by a U.S. soldier as the unit waited in Kuwait for orders to enter Iraq.

  73. 73.

    Cat48

    Really cruel–this will hurt Asians also, not just Latino kids. The majority of old white men have no empathy and are still living in the 1950’s. So there’s that, along with all his other outrageous creepy, cruel tendencies. Work quickly, Mueller!

  75. 75.

    HinTN

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The GOP majorities in both chambers are going to screw themselves into the floor every day and then spend all night unscrewing themselves so they can start again the next day.

    That is the sum total of their philosophy of governing. Well said, sir.

    Also, too, I appreciated your long answer in the previous thread. That, too, was well said.

  76. 76.

    Brachiator

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Yes totally, but he also likes to avoid direct confrontation, makes announcements but doesn’t follow through. Letting DACA wither on the vine would be more his style..

    Trump modified, but still held to his Muslim ban. He modified, but is still pushing his transgender military ban.

    He quietly pushed new rules requiring more interviews for people who have already satisfied the rules for becoming legal immigrants, and without increasing staffing at all to handle these new requirements. ICE staffers read the tea leaves and step up enforcement and deportation efforts.

    He seems firm on his promises whitey immigration policy.

    I am not seeing a lot of backing down here.

  79. 79.

    Mnemosyne

    @Another Scott:

    Most of the racists screaming about how “illegals” are destroying the US are perfectly happy to hire them at sub-minimum wage. If they could keep them as slaves, they would.

    The thing that drives them nuts about DACA is that it’s “illegals” trying to get above their station and better themselves rather than staying migrant workers and sweatshop workers like the good Lord intended.

  81. 81.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    Aren’t you guys so glad that Ivanka and Jared are there to moderate him?

  82. 82.

    efgoldman

    @HinTN:

    That is the sum total of their philosophy of governing.

    Philosophy is one thing, basic procedural competence is another. These assholes, with clear majorities in both houses, can’t manage to write and pass simple bills. [I’m just as glad, but sill!]

  88. 88.

    JPL

    @schrodingers_cat: In GA in order to renew my license, it cost more that 100 dollars in order to gather together all the information needed. Actually it was $165.00, but some of that was due to the fact that I should have started 2 months earlier.

  89. 89.

    HinTN

    @efgoldman: We could just call them chickenshit and let it go at that. They don’t want to write bills because those bills would either have to be what their base wants, which would get them unelected, or not what their base wants, which would get them unelected.

  91. 91.

    TS

    @Iowa Old Lady:

    Stupid, pointless, and cruel. The Trump Trifecta.

    I’ve run out of polite words – I’ll borrow yours so the granddaughter doesn’t have to listen to my cussin’

  93. 93.

    Zelma

    OK. What do we do? I will call my “moderate” Republican rep. So what? I would march about this, but where? Dune Drive? Is someone going to mount another march or something? This is an abomination.

  94. 94.

    rikyrah

    The Martyring of Colin Kaepernick
    How the NFL botched the quarterback’s protest
    and guaranteed the controversy will live on, whether he plays or not.

    By BEN STRAUSS
    September 03, 2017

    On the afternoon of June 23, a civil rights activist sent an
    email directly to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, hoping to save the league from making a colossal PR blunder.

    Dr. Harry Edwards, a trained sociologist, had been an
    adviser to sprinters John Carlos and Tommie Smith when they raised their fists on the medal podium at the 1968 Olympics. Last year, he was a regular sounding board for Colin Kaepernick when the then-San Francisco 49ers quarterback began to kneel for the national anthem to protest racial inequality and conservative pundits like Tomi Lahren raked him as a “whiny, indulgent, attention-seeking crybaby.” Now with a new season fast approaching, Kaepernick was still unsigned, even as scrap-heap players who couldn’t match the record of a one-time Super Bowl quarterback were getting precious roster spots. Reporters had begun to openly suggest Kaepernick, good enough to sign a $127 million contract in 2014, was being blackballed—retaliation by a famously autocratic organization against a player who had dared to embarrass it.

    But Edwards saw the Kaepernick saga in a larger and more politically fraught context. He saw a mixed-race player who challenged a league in which some 70 percent of the athletes are African-American and all but one owner and more than 80 percent of the fans are white. Edwards also saw an increasingly divided country led by a president who seemed to relish stoking racial tensions. If the NFL could not find a way to put Kaepernick on a roster, Edwards reasoned, the league risked turning a
    workplace dispute into a full-blown and far more embarrassing racial
    controversy. In his email to Goodell, which he shared with POLITICO, Edwards spelled it out as clearly as he could: “DON’T MAKE HIM A MARTYR!”

    And that’s exactly what happened. With the regular season scheduled to start in four days, Kaepernick remains unsigned. Nefarious or not, the league’s collective refusal to put Kaepernick on the field has backfired. After Charlottesville, what had been a steady drip of news inside the sports section became a front-page cause with national ramifications, and Kaepernick became the silent symbol of a sideline protest movement that has grown far beyond the league’s ability to contain it. A dozen Cleveland Browns players, white and black, knelt in a circle before one game; Seattle Seahawks defensive end Michael Bennett told Jake Tapper on CNN that he would protest during the national anthem indefinitely. The NAACP sent a letter to Goodell demanding new protections for outspoken athletes like Kaepernick. More than 1,000
    protesters gathered in New York outside the NFL’s Park Avenue
    headquarters in support of the unemployed quarterback.

    “For nearly a year, here was Colin Kaepernick talking about racism and inequality,” Edwards said. “It was like the mask was pulled off at
    Charlottesville. People watched and thought, ‘My god, Kaepernick’s
    right.’”

  96. 96.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Spanky: I think that the Russian Foreign Ministry’s spokeswoman was implying was an assassination. Now how and by whom she left open to speculation. As former FBI Special Agent Clint Watts said in his Senate testimony: “follow the bodies”.

  97. 97.

    efgoldman

    @Spanky:

    Some might see the threat of a Second Amendment Remedy in that statement.

    How could they, with the corps pf private thugs (paid for by whom? Nobody ever said) to supplement the useless gummint secret service.

  98. 98.

    tobie

    God damn. One can only hope between now and Tuesday that he’ll have a change of heart but I doubt it. Whenever he’s backed into a corner, he does what angers liberals the most and undoes whatever Obama did. This is why he pulled the US out of the Paris Climate Agreement. I feel so bad for the 800,000 DACA recipients whose fate depends on this asshole’s decision.

  99. 99.

    Brachiator

    @Another Scott:

    The only thing Trump cares about is himself. Obama’s more popular, and Obama made fun of him, so Obama’s legacy has to be destroyed.

    Trump was (probably still is) a birther. These people are fundamentally racist. Further, Trump was obsessed with Obama’s academic record, and did not believe that a black man could have such an outstanding academic record. This again, is consistent with a certain type of bigot, especially those who hated and distrusted Obama because he is mixed race. And these obsessions were in place before Trump and Obama ever had any conflicts.

    Obama’s sophisticated blackness has always offended Trump.

    Sure, he’s racist, but it didn’t stop him from using “illegals” to build his building (and he loves having foreign workers at his hotels, etc.)….

    This is not much different from racist Southerners loving slavery while opposing the import of new slaves from Cuba, etc.

    Besides, Trump does not believe that rules apply to him. He could build a wall, enact harsh policies and still find a way to use illegal Immigrants. But he would kick them back across the border when he was done with them.

  105. 105.

    Brachiator

    @Jeffro:

    .compare your first paragraph and your last paragraph

    Matter of emphasis. If it’s not clear, I think that Trump is more racist than much of his base. And I don’t think that he is simply trying to appease them or play to them.

    Like certain previous tyrants, he will encourage his base to let loose hatreds they didn’t realize that they had.

  108. 108.

    Gravenstone

    @Adam L Silverman: Um, given the fact that only one US president ended his term early while still breathing, the subtext is a wee bit worrisome.

    Eta: and I see I’m not alone in making the inferred threat.

  109. 109.

    randy khan

    @JPL:

    I think that’s true – getting something through the House would be . . . challenging even for a President who’s actually engaged in the legislative process.

    But a normal President wouldn’t say “I’m going to kill this thing in six months, so you better do something.” A normal President would have a specific proposal and push for it, without a specific deadline.

  110. 110.

    tobie

    @Brachiator:

    I think that Trump is more racist than much of his base.

    I’m not convinced of this. Driving around the Eastern Shore of Maryland this weekend I saw pickup trucks with huge Confederate flags flying on poles from the back and bumper stickers with slogans like “Second Amendment” printed in German-Gothic script followed by a picture of a skull. Trump’s base is rancid. He’s legitimized their racism.

  111. 111.

    Shalimar

    @MisterForkbeard: This is buck-passing, blaming Congress for not passing a bill so Trump can pretend it isn’t his fault all the kids are being deported. Assuming that there is some plan to pressure Democrats to accept a compromise bill also assumes that the White House would trust anything Ryan and McConnell promised them at this point. After the failure of Trumpcare, there is no reason to believe they do.

  112. 112.

    efgoldman

    @JPL:

    Trump knows the House can’t pass anything

    He doesn’t “know” anything of the kind; he has no idea what a bill is, how it becomes law, what each house does, what’s necessary – and he has alienated a significant number of his natural partisan allies on the hill. You’re giving him credit for strategery that he does not deserve and has not earned.

  113. 113.

    Adam L Silverman

    @randy khan: As the Politico article states, and as Gen. (ret) Kelly testified before Congress when he was DHS Secretary, he believes that as a matter of national policy that Congress should have acted a long time ago to resolve this issue for these specific undocumented immigrants. Given that Kelly is now chief of staff, the six month window is likely his influence to try to give Congress the time to actually do what the GOP majority in Congress claims is its responsibility, not the President’s.

    I think he is going to be profoundly disappointed in the GOP majorities in both chambers.

  115. 115.

    Lulymay

    @PaulWartenberg: And as a Canadian, I don’t want to sound insulting but, the social safety net that generations of right wing politicians have grudgingly put in place is still being eroded as we all type our comments on this thread.

    As well, I cannot even fathom how all those so-called “evangelicals” who have had this wonderful Coming to Jeebus Conversion can treat their fellow citizens in such a despicable manner. Amen!

  117. 117.

    Shalimar

    @efgoldman: Even the narcissistic buffoon can look at the last 8 months and see that Congress hasn’t given him any wins. It doesn’t take any knowledge at all to see that they can’t pass anything.

  118. 118.

    mai naem mobile

    Lemme guess – Jared and Ivanka are on vacation in the Hamptons (costing the taxpayers a gazillion dollars in secret service protection) and are just not involved in the decision making. Then Mags Haberman will have a story on Thursday how Ivanka and Jared tried so hard to change daddy’s mind but legalities,Gen Kelly, Sessions yadayadayada.

  119. 119.

    efgoldman

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I think he is going to be profoundly disappointed in the GOP majorities in both chambers.

    Unless he’s realist and cynic enough to expect exactly nothing in the end.

  122. 122.

    Adam L Silverman

    @efgoldman: By all reports Kelly was apolitical and an-ideological throughout his career. And I know that even well educated senior military personnel – as in my colleagues and students when I was at USAWC – are often in denial about just how dysfunctional Congress has become over the past 15 to 25 years.

  123. 123.

    efgoldman

    @Shalimar:

    It doesn’t take any knowledge at all to see that they can’t pass anything.

    YOU know that, and I know that, and pretty much anyone who knows water is wet knows that, BUT I truly believe he is narcissist and delusional enough that he believes what he (and the unmoored from reality knuckle dragging flying monkeys who remain loyal to him) think is a great record of accomplishment.

  124. 124.

    JPL

    @Patricia Kayden: lol Probably not. Since I’ve been watching Luther, I think we need more Alice Morgans. She is in good shape, and maybe Trump would invite her to the White House. just sayin

  125. 125.

    Jeffro

    @Brachiator: ok. Just have to disagree on pretty much all of that . Trump and his base’s level of racism/embrace of white supremacy/willingness to damage their own cause just to spite others sure seems to be about equal to me .

    He leans on them and they lean on him – A mutually supportive circle of hate and spite

  126. 126.

    Another Scott

    TheHill:

    Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) on Sunday said it would be “Republican suicide” if President Trump followed through on a report that he was planning to end DACA with a six-month delay, insisting that the program instead needed to be ended immediately.

    “Ending DACA now gives chance [to] restore Rule of Law. Delaying so [Republican] Leadership can push Amnesty is Republican suicide,” King tweeted.

    Hmmm….

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  128. 128.

    efgoldman

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I know that even well educated senior military personnel – …. are often in denial about just how dysfunctional Congress has become

    I can understand that. Senior officers have had chain of command and civilian control pounded into their ears for their whole careers.

  130. 130.

    Peale

    @PaulWartenberg: there aren’t enough Latino republican voters who could have made a difference where it mattered. Perhaps trying to hang the immigration issue in Latino voters (who as citizens aren’t experiencing visa issues of any sort) is part of the problem. Like if you want more latinos to turn out, maybe a different issue than DACA would do the trick.

  131. 131.

    efgoldman

    @Jeffro:

    ” why would you save the village when you can burn it ?”

    He wouldn’t burn the part where the white people live.

    Maybe.
    Says a lot (all of it unpleasant) about his salt of the earth district.

  132. 132.

    Shalimar

    @Another Scott: Sounds like Steve King is worried a compromise bill might pass. That would give me some hope if I thought King had any political acumen whatsoever for vote-counting.

  133. 133.

    Adam L Silverman

    @efgoldman: It goes beyond that. I think a lot of it is they cannot admit that the elected officials they serve as part of their service to the Constitution and through it to the American people are so badly messed up.

  134. 134.

    Brachiator

    @Jeffro:

    He leans on them and they lean on him – A mutually supportive circle of hate and spite

    It’s a simple matter of fact that Trump was bigot long before he became a candidate and acquired a base. He doesn’t give two shots about anyone else apart from himself and his family.

    He thrives on the wild adulation of his base, but he could get this kick elsewhere if necessary.

    People have consistently underestimated the depths to which Trump will sink, and continue to do so .

    BTW, if Trump delays getting rid of DACA, look for him to hold a rally where he will say something outrageous. He always does this after he is forced to act more moderate.

    ..

  135. 135.

    Aleta

    Stark to see Trump not even bother to pretend that his National Day of Prayer meant anything to him. He is so open about displaying his ruthlessness, cruelty and sadism. He has never hidden those as his selling points to his white supremicst base.

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    Peale

    While it would have the unfortunate result of bringing the authorities into the lives of people who are desperately trying to keep law enforcement away from themselves right now, I’d favor a bill that grants DACA enrolled people the right to smack any non-voting citizen “friends” upside the head repeatedly, especially those who express “shock” that this is happening.

  137. 137.

    Bookeater (formerly JosieJ)

    @dexwood:

    There’s a saying: “The higher the monkey climbs, the more you see his ass.”

    Trump exemplifies this.

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    Raven Onthill

    @schrodingers_cat: There’s no official announcement, yet, won’t be until Tuesday as far as we know. I asked my Congressperson’s office and the answer is that DACA was implemented as executive policy, and can be ended in the same way. All Trump has to do is sign the order.

    BTW, John, if the House could impeach Trump, it might not need to.

  143. 143.

    TenguPhule

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The GOP majorities in both chambers are going to screw themselves into the floor every day and then spend all night unscrewing themselves so they can start again the next day.

    Objection!

    Implies they can unscrew themselves.

  144. 144.

    TenguPhule

    @Raven Onthill:

    Oh, and if the mass deportation begins, can we say they’re acting like Nazis yet?

    No, because that would imply that all hope is lost and something something something.

  145. 145.

    TenguPhule

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I think a lot of it is they cannot admit that the elected officials they serve as part of their service to the Constitution and through it to the American people are so badly messed up.

    That problem isn’t limited to just the military.

  146. 146.

    TenguPhule

    @Another Scott:

    Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) on Sunday said it would be “Republican suicide” if President Trump followed through on a report that he was planning to end DACA with a six-month delay, insisting that the program instead needed to be ended immediately.

    “Ending DACA now gives chance [to] restore Rule of Law.

    Every time a Republican mentions rule of law, a demon gets its pitchfork.

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    J R in WV

    @sukabi:

    It wasn’t a leak, it was a public statement. I can’t tell if it was a physical death threat as in Lee Harvey Oswald, or a psychological/political death threat as in “We have the goods on Mr. Trump, and are prepared to share those goods with Mr Prosecutor Mueller at his convenience.” death threat.

    And I have a hard time picking between those two types of threats, actually. I guess I prefer the political death threat, as in gonna kill your career, and the careers of everyone who ever worked with or for you. Seems so much more productive and forward moving than just a long range rifle shot, doesn’t it?

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