Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

“woke” is the new caravan.

After roe, women are no longer free.

The worst democrat is better than the best republican.

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

Prediction: the GOP will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

I like you, you’re my kind of trouble.

The words do not have to be perfect.

Despite his magical powers, I don’t think Trump is thinking this through, to be honest.

A last alliance of elves and men. also pet photos.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

No one could have predicted…

White supremacy is terrorism.

Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.

Republicans do not pay their debts.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

I didn’t have alien invasion on my 2023 BINGO card.

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(I actually laughed harder at this one, but I’m staying postive here, by goddess!)

From commentor Luthe:

I’m going to a Clinton book-signing on Saturday. If anyone has a message they’d like passed along to the great lady, email it to luthemeetshrc [at] gmail. I will put all the messages in a Word file and print them out to give to her.

Note: I reserve the right to edit or omit any rude, nasty, or negative commentary. This is for good stuff only.

I’ll make sure Luthe gets a chance to see this post, if you want to comment here.

Also, you personally may be too old / shy / busy for this, but it’s worth passing along on social media:

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Apart from #Resisting, what’s on the agenda as we wait for the Friday Trumpdump?

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  1. 1.

    magurakurin

    waiting for Typhoon Talim to arrive. It appears to be weakening. A few days ago it was a Category 4 hurricane, but is A Cat 1 now. Might be only storm force winds when it gets to me.

  5. 5.

    magurakurin

    @rikyrah: thanks.this one doesn’t seem very scary right where I am. Nothing at all like what Houston and Florida just got hit with. On the upside it looks like the worst of our summer humidity is finished.

  8. 8.

    Kathleen

    At CVG waiting to board plane to Mpls for high school & mini family reunion. Picked up pre ordered copy of What Happened for my trip. Can’t wait to start though I anticipate ragegasm on my part.

  9. 9.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    Even the liberal Eva Braun:

    Ann Coulter ✔ @AnnCoulter

    At this point, who DOESN’T want Trump impeached?

    4:05 AM – Sep 14, 2017

  18. 18.

    Balconesfault

    My lovergirl was stunned and somewhat hurt by my reaction the other day when she told me she had gotten two tics for Hillary’s stop here in Austin.

    There was no bigger backer of Clinton during the race … and I still hold Animus towards those who gave her tepid or “lesser of two evils” endorsements last fall and then turned out to March AFTER the friggin election as if suddenly gobsmacked by the magnitude of differences between the two candidates.

    But I do not want to hear any rehash from Hillary over what was another over cautious play not to lose Presidential run. No not at all, even when I think she has a point.

  19. 19.

    raven

    @Kathleen: Yesterday one of my buddies said he wasn’t going because he wasn’t in the “in crowd”. I said, “yea I IN Korea when the class graduated”!!!

  20. 20.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @Balconesfault: As I said, I’ve read the book, the fundamental problem(in HRC’s view) was that she was running as an establishment candidate in a change election. Of course there was the other stuff, like Comey, Russia…

    I said, during the campaign, that this election reminded me of 1968(without the assassinations) with HRC being HHH, Bernie as Clean Gene, and Trump as Nixon/Wallace.

  21. 21.

    OzarkHillbilly

    The feuding continues:

    ST. LOUIS • A federal judge on Thursday slapped down an attempt by Phyllis Schlafly’s son to freeze the activities of the political organization headed by her daughter — the latest chapter in a family drama that was sparked in part by Donald Trump’s presidential campaign and has divided the late conservative icon’s disciples.

    In a strongly worded verbal ruling from the bench in St. Louis, U.S. District Judge John A. Ross denied a motion by Andrew Schlafly for an emergency restraining order to prevent Friday’s annual board meeting of Eagle Forum, the decades-old conservative organization founded by his mother and now chaired by his sister. Ross said Andrew Schlafly’s motion appeared to be litigious harassment and “gamesmanship” in a dispute that has played out in courts in three states. In addition to denying the motion, Ross ordered Schlafly to pay Eagle Forum’s legal fees, an indication that he believes the motion was frivolous.

    “It’s unfortunate that this is all occurring this way,” said Ross.

    Unfortunate? I’m rather enjoying it all.

  22. 22.

    satby

    Starfish shared a great article yesterday that highlighted something we were talking about:

    Older women occupy a very particular space in our culture — a space frequently defined by an abandonment of listening. Rather than valuing the lived experiences of older women, and the wisdom those lives have imparted, we turn away from them, dismissing them as irrelevant; we neglect to listen, just at the moment where they may offer insights most profoundly worth listening to.

  25. 25.

    satby

    @satby: I should say, tangentially talking about it, in relation to having the patience to try to reason with people who voted for Drumpf or not at all. And how I noticed that most of us out of any tolerance were women.

  28. 28.

    satby

    @magurakurin: here’s hoping it continues to weaken! Stay safe!

    @rikyrah: Good morning. I couldn’t listen, because I knew it would reignite the rage and depression. Hell, writing a few lines of thanks for Luthe to pass on to HRC had me in tears for a couple of minutes.

  30. 30.

    Kathleen

    @raven: Ha! Interestingly enough the valedictorian of my class, a brilliant woman who is a doctor, was reluctant to attend 40th. She’s not coming tonight because she’s working but we’re meeting for coffee and I can’t wait to. see her. Her mom knew Bob Dylan in his high school days.

  31. 31.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @raven: I’ve never been to a HS class reunion (did go to one catholic grade school class reunion) and never will. Didn’t have but a handful of friends there and seeing as like me they were all refugees from the island of misfit toys, I’m pretty sure they are feeling just as ambiguous towards their HS years.

  32. 32.

    satby

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: (not sure what a 3 sticks is) I went to two, my 10th and my 25th, both briefly because they were scheduled on the same day as other things. I found them to be pretty boring. After all I’ve been in touch with the people who were my friends since then.

  38. 38.

    Baud

    Hey, Luthe, tell Hillary that Baud! is the only 2020 Democratic candidate who will run to vindicate her supporters instead of running away for them.

    Baud! 2020!: Hillary’s Revenge!

  43. 43.

    Baud

    Republicans would have impeached Hillary over these North Korean missile tests and the media would be far more freaked out.

  45. 45.

    bemused

    I read a couple of interviews with Barbara Res, construction engineer, who wrote “All Alone on The 68th Floor” about her experience working 18 years for Trump. SMH over the progress of women in the gender divide. Yes, there has been progress in equality opportunities and in the culture but so slow and so small, imo. How far we have yet to go has lurched to the surface again with the Trump era.

    From what Res says, Trump was never “nice” but he has gotten progressively worse.

    Read in Politico that one unnamed commenter was uncomfortable with how often Trump smiled at Schumer and shook Schumer’s hand repeatedly. I think President Biff is very desperate these days for any kind of attention like a dog begging for tummy scritches or even a pat on the head.

  46. 46.

    evodevo

    @Kathleen: Have a good time … are you going to confront any Trumpsters up there? MN always seems like a relatively sane state, compared to KY …

  50. 50.

    Feathers

    Wow. Harvard has rescinded the fellowship for Chelsea Manning. Two worthy but troublesome women kicked out in two days. So much for academic freedom in the age of Trump.

    Funny, I wasn’t able to sleep and was listening to Malcolm Gladwell’s Revisionist History podcast. He has a series of episodes on why giving more and more money to the Harvards of the world is a bad idea. We should be building up the “utility schools.”

  51. 51.

    Sloane Ranger

    @satby: Seems to have misfired, thank God. No-one’s claimed responsibility as yet.

    The rest of the tube network is running normally.

  55. 55.

    Lapassionara

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Also known as Clinton rules. For my mental health, I stayed away from TRMS last night. I hate having the R’s in charge. Especially for Supreme Court nominees.

    Good morning all.

  56. 56.

    MomSense

    @rikyrah:

    Right there with you.

    I was right in the middle of a terrible dream when there was a yuuge thunder clap- more like a boom. The power went out and then we had a brief but intense lightning storm. It was especially unsettling since it woke me out of a nightmare.

    I still feel a little spooked. Probably should avoid news of the twitter toddler today.

  58. 58.

    Feathers

    @Baud: He talks about how focusing on superstars too often means just polishing rich kids. Funding the places that build opportunities for really smart but poor kids would bring greater benefits.

    There is an episode about how Vassar has shitty food (normal eats), while Bowdoin feeds its students gourmet locavore organics. But Vassar is spending the money on having double the number of students with Pell Grants.

  70. 70.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Feathers: I Know what he’s saying (and he’s right), what I’m saying is that human nature is not that altruistic, it’s mostly IGMFY.

  73. 73.

    rikyrah

    @Baud:
    The story is how, with the GOP controlling everything, that the Democrats have anything to be positive about at all. But, that would lead to the discussion that the GOP is unfit to govern, and that what they REALLY want to do is.repulsive to everyone but the crazyfication factor.???

  79. 79.

    Betty Cracker

    @OzarkHillbilly: Such an obvious and stupid lie. He was tweeting inane shit every single day during the supposed communication blackout too. He was up and tweeting about the London subway bombing this morning. Condolences and offers of help for Mexico never occurred to the contemptible wretch because he assumed the victims weren’t white people.

  80. 80.

    rikyrah

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    Nobody had any expectations of her. She wants to have it both ways, and nobody is here for the bullshyt. You were always as big a liar as your lying, grifting Daddy, and you expected the rest of us to fall for your nonsense. Nobody told you and your unqualified husband to take jobs in the West Wing. Once you did that, STFU, you piece of garbage.

  82. 82.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Betty Cracker: He doesn’t think of them as people, they are all drug dealers and rapists with calves the size of cantaloupes (but they do mow the greens well and keep the beds at Mar-Lago tidy)

  84. 84.

    Kay

    I worked a county Dem event last night. I worked with another volunteer, Adam. He’s 37 and only became active after Trump. Honestly though, he’s basically a Republican. He described himself as a “Blue Dog Democrat” which made me laugh out loud just because I have never heard an actual person claim that category but it wasn’t judgmental- we have quite a few Right-leaning Democrats so he’s closer to the “norm” than I am. I do think this may happen, though. That the Right-leaning “independents” will be, ya know, Right-leaning.

    He asked me about the chair of the county Party, how that person becomes chair, and my sense was he was almost lobbying – that he has designs on an official role. This is fine- but he wasn’t really straightforward about it because it turned out he had read the bylaws so this was strategizing of some sort. I know they all dislike the secretary and want him out and he’s up in ’18 so I told him to try for that hoping that by just saying it we could cut to the chase on what he’s after. He denied he wanted any official role, which I don’t believe.

  85. 85.

    raven

    @OzarkHillbilly: I have zero expectations. It’s not like I have some great friend(s) who I haven’t seen in years or anything like that. My bride just said that it’s more of an opportunity to take stock of where I’ve been and where I’m going. The class of 67 was in a tumultuous place in terms of social upheaval and I’m ok with checking out the ramifications.

  86. 86.

    Kay

    I haven’t looked into this but I went down to the Labor Council booth after my stint at the Dem booth and they told me one of the Canadian conditions for Trump renegotiating NAFTA is he has to get rid of Right to Work. They were laughing.

    The Art of the Deal, Baby. Get out of his way.

  87. 87.

    OzarkHillbilly

    The Ig Nobels are out:

    In ancient times, cats were worshipped as gods. Now a scientific paper arguing that the feline species may indeed transcend some of the usual physical boundaries has been recognised with one of science’s most sought-after accolades: an Ig Nobel prize.

    The theoretical treatise, entitled On the Rheology of Cats, argues that cats can technically be regarded as simultaneously solid and liquid due to their uncanny ability to adopt the shape of their container.
    …..
    Marc-Antoine Fardin, of the Université Paris Diderot and sole author of the cat paper, was inspired by an internet thread featuring absurd photos of cat-filled containers, ranging from sweet jars to sinks. “This actually raised some interesting questions about what it means to be a fluid and so I thought it could be used to highlight actually serious topics at the centre of the field of rheology, the study of flows,” he said.

    Fardin’s subsequent paper, published in the Rheology Bulletin in 2014, explores how to calculate a cat’s “Deborah number”, a special term used to describe fluidity, and speculated on how cats might behave if subjected to the “tilted jar experiment”.

    “If you take a timelapse of a glacier on several years you will unmistakably see it flow down the mountain,” he said. “For cats, the same principle holds. If you are observing a cat on a time larger than its relaxation time, it will be soft and adapt to its container, like a liquid would.”

    More at the link, including how playing the didgeridoo can reduce snoring and how contact with a live crocodile can affect a person’s willingness to gamble.

  88. 88.

    Karen S.

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    What I don’t understand is why ANYONE thought she’d have any kind of influence over her father. She’s vacuous and has been sheltered her entire life. What can she know about anything that matters to the vast majority of people in this country? I wonder if some people thought she could be some sort of modulating influence because she’s a woman and therefore can’t be as horrible as her father. I just don’t know.

  90. 90.

    Kay

    Canadian negotiators are demanding the United States roll back so-called “right to work” laws – accused of gutting unions in some U.S. states by starving them of money – as part of the renegotiation of the North American free-trade agreement. The request is part of a push by Ottawa to get the U.S. and Mexico to adopt higher labour standards under the deal.

    Trumpism is, of course, utterly incoherent and that will become more and more clear as time goes on. The NYTimes can fluff him on his nonpartisan awesomeness but at some point he’s going to have to make real decisions and show his hand.

  91. 91.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Karen S.:

    I wonder if some people thought she could be some sort of modulating influence because she’s a woman and therefore can’t be as horrible as her father.

    Obviously, they’ve never met my ex. ;-)

  92. 92.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    Canada does have higher labor standards than the US and Mexico. It’s awesome that they’re trying to make this a race to the top rather than the bottom.

  93. 93.

    Kay

    @Karen S.:

    She’s good at PR though. She managed to trick media into covering her “moderating influence on her father” rather than the gross and corrupt nepotism she represents.

    It’s outrageous that she has that job. She’s not qualified and she didn’t earn it. She’s a slap in the godammned face to anyone that has ever earned anything.

  96. 96.

    germy

    I will put all the messages in a Word file and print them out to give to her.

    Hillary came to our town when her last book came out (back when we thought she’d be president) and there were strict rules. My wife lined up to get her book autographed. The rules were that Hillary was just there to autograph books. No extended questions were allowed, and I don’t think people were allowed to hand her anything other than her book to sign.

    These rules were simply to keep the line moving (massive crowd that day) and ensure everyone got a chance to see her.

    It would be great if you could pass her a balloon-juice printout, though. I can imagine her asking “Who is Wilmer??

  97. 97.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    I had one of my better clients walk by and do an exaggerated “double take” when she saw what I was doing. I didn’t know she was a wingnut but I guess she is. I don’t like her now just because she did the dumb exaggerated double take :)

    Please. Like it’s so fucking shocking.

  99. 99.

    Matt McIrvin

    @magurakurin: Looks like we’ll be doing the same with Hurricane Jose in New England, probably Tuesday or Wednesday. Another formerly Cat 4 storm that is weaker now. (There are some very, very early indications that Hurricane Maria might hit us right after that. Jose and Maria–guess it’s Christmas in September.)

  100. 100.

    Karen S.

    @Kay:
    I hadn’t thought about the PR angle. Sigh. You’re right that she shouldn’t have a job at the White House. The only thing she did to “earn” that was being born to a particular set of parents.

  101. 101.

    Kay

    @Karen S.:

    Did you see Trump leaked a “scoop” to the NYTimes trashing Sessions immediately after Trump folded on DACA? It helps Trump two ways- it humiliates Sessions and reassures the base that Sessions still hates brown people.

    How dumb are these people? Why do they allow themselves to be used? They’re like the Donald Trump PR team.

  104. 104.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    So apparently part of this deal to keep DACA going is so Trump can take another stab at Sessions? Well Mr Sessions, how does it feel to live on your knees? Any self respecting person would have walked out on Trump when they were being insulted.

  105. 105.

    rikyrah

    @Kay:

    It helps Trump two ways- it humiliates Sessions and reassures the base that Sessions still hates brown people

    I told you long ago..

    Attorney General White Citizens Council is fulfilling his White Supremacist fantasies. The only way he leaves is if he is fired. Dolt45 can humiliate him everyday, but he will not quit.

  107. 107.

    Jeffro

    So…we have the first training dates of the new Obama Foundation, and I see in my email that Hillz is launching “Onward Together”…looks like our leaders have got some wind back in their sails, and not a moment too soon.

  110. 110.

    Elizabelle

    Good morning all.

    @MomSense:

    [a] brief but intense lightning storm …unsettling since it woke me out of a nightmare.

    Cinematic beginning. Your day can only improve.

  111. 111.

    Laura

    @Kay: So newly minted party activist ask’s somewhat on the sly, how to get the chairmanship of the local party machinery despite not having much to show workwise. Just an interest in waltzing in and nabbing the top spot.
    Kay, am I reading this wrong, because the sense of self-entitlement just rolled off the screen and slapped me awake this morning.

  114. 114.

    Miss Bianca

    Hey, Luthe – pass it along to Hillary from me, that I am so damn glad she is out there NOT shutting up. And thank her for running. And that I am so damn sorry that so many of my fellow lefties were busy swilling the anti-HRC kool-aid. And thanks for all the fish. Wait, you can skip that last part.

  115. 115.

    Uncle Ebeneezer

    For Luthe: thank her for calling the Deplorables exactly what they are. It needed to be said and is proving more and more accurate every day.

  116. 116.

    J R in WV

    @Laura:

    @Kay:

    I think the right-wing intends to attack the Democratic Party from inside our organization.

    This guy isn’t a Blue-Dog Democrat at all – he’s a stealth republican sent to try to take over and kill things off that might help the party do well in your (Kay’s) area.

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