It’s hell in Puerto Rico now. Via WaPo:
Hurricane Maria hammers Puerto Rico with force not seen in ‘modern history’
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — Hurricane Maria churned across Puerto Rico Wednesday as the most powerful storm to strike the island in more than 80 years, knocking out power and water to nearly the entire population and leaving people huddled in buildings to ride out powerhouse winds that have already left death and devastation across the Caribbean.
“On the forecast track, [Maria] would be the most destructive hurricane in Puerto Rico history,” tweeted Eric Blake, a forecaster at the National Hurricane Center.
The storm first slammed the coast near Yabucoa at 6:15 a.m. as a Category 4 hurricane with 155 mph winds — the first Category 4 storm to directly strike the island since 1932. By midmorning, Maria had fully engulfed the 100-mile-long island as winds snapped palm trees, peeled off rooftops, sent debris skidding across beaches and roads, and cut power to nearly the entire island.
Not a word today from Trump, who found time to compliment Fox & Friends, plug Luther Strange, flog Graham-Cassidy, excoriate “Crooked Hillary,” retweet knob-slobbering from MAGAts, etc.
He posted a perfunctory tweet about the imminent hurricane strike last night, similar and in close proximity to the tweet about the Mexico City earthquake. But Trump’s approach to this unfolding disaster is nothing like the multiple tweets he sent out about the hurricanes that hit Florida and Texas and the pains he took to be seen as engaged during those events.
Does he not know Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory? Does he not give a shit because its inhabitants are mostly non-white? Both?
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
Evil brown people live there. Not good white Trump supporters. Can Puerto Ricans vote in Presidential elections?
tractarian
This one’s easy. No electoral votes.
Also: Brown people.
Tilda Swintons Bald Cap
Do his angry white hordes know?
TenguPhule
No.
This has been another edition of SATSQ.
TenguPhule
Yes.
Major Major Major Major
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
Nope.
dmsilev
Does he have a house or commercial property there?
Bess
It’s time for PR to quit allowing themselves to be shafted and vote for statehood.
Steve in the ATL
@Bess: republicans will never allow it. Too liberal. Same reason D.C. doesn’t have representation.
efgoldman
Any sentence or phrase that begins with some variant of “Does he know….” or “does he understand…” the answer is always “no”.
They speak the language for which you press 2.
JGabriel
Betty Cracker @ Top:
Both.
Wag
Does he not know Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory? Does he not give a shit because its inhabitants are mostly non-white? Both?
No and yes.
TenguPhule
@Bess:
As I recall, they’re already facing bankruptcy.
This isn’t going to help.
Gin & Tonic
@efgoldman: You’ll appreciate this. Don’t know which phone button it was, but when I called BC/BS of RI I could have chosen Spanish *or* Portuguese.
Elie
Again — its all about dividing us into winners and losers… destroying the WE in We the People. He is ruthlessly executing the mission that he outlined in his inaugural address and the Republicans in Congress are helping him. The opposition is diffuse and while strong in numbers and passion, without the same kind short term “bully pulpit”. So, we an expect more of this and the reality that a fair amount of it won’t be mentioned by the media and/or will be “normalized”. He didn’t even bother to offer condolescences to Mexico — he is the Lord Beast ruling a White Supremacist nation — Not the United States of America….
West of the Cascades
Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens. Also lots of non-brown U.S. citizens in St. Croix (one of U.S. Virgin Islands) which got clobbered by Maria, too. Trump doesn’t give a shit.
trollhattan
If you have to ask you already know the answer. Time to cue up Emily Litella
“Make Puerto Rico a steak, again!”.
Gelfling 545
@TenguPhule: For any question beginning “Does Trump understand” the answer will be no.
NotMax
@Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe)
As they are citizens, then yes they can vote in presidential elections if they become a resident of a state. If resident in the territory, then no.
Puerto Rico does have a primary, does have delegates to the nominating conventions, and does have an elected delegate (officially, a Resident Commissioner) in the House – currently Jenniffer González, who caucuses with the Rs.
hovercraft
Yes.
But they have no electoral votes, and worst of all they are brown.
Haven’t you been paying attention, in order to count you must speak ENGLISH!!!
If he had his druthers, he’d revoke their citizenship, how dare they speak Spanish!
Yes I see everyone got there before me ;(
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@NotMax:
….why?
hovercraft
@Bess:
I think they have, but the GOP will not give them statehood, just like DC, because they are predominately POC, and the GOP thinks they would just be handing the Democrats 4 more Senators.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@hovercraft:
This sounds vaguely like the run-up to the Civil War.
TenguPhule
@hovercraft:
But you’ll always have our eels!
The Moar You Know
@Bess: I agree that they do need to have the vote. But it’s not their call to make, and this current GOP Congress is simply not going to allow two new Dem Senators and a Dem House member to change the balance of power. Puerto Rico will not get statehood for a very long time.
Yutsano
@hovercraft:
Definitely true for DC but PR politics is a bit more complicated than that. Although they did love them some Hillbot.
@The Moar You Know:
They should just declare independence, get their own currency, and tell their creditors to get their money from the US government.
Jeffro
I think it’s his attention span issue kicking in here…”another hurricane, hmm? okay. anyway, let’s go see what Fox and Friends are saying about me…”
andy
@tractarian: Exactomundo. They got no juice, so into the grinder they go. But he would treat California, New York, or Minnesota the same.
NotMax
@Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe)
Why does she caucus with the RS? Because the local party under whose banner she was elected (New Progressive Party) is affiliated with the Republicans.
Why is there the office? There has been since 1901. Represents the interests of the territory. As with others elected as delegates to the House (See: District of Columbia, American Samoa, etc.) can sit as a member on committees and exercise a vote except when a floor vote is being held.
TenguPhule
Scott Pruitt needs to choke to death on a bag of salted dicks.
That bastard.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@NotMax: I mean why would people from fucking PR want to work with the fascist, white supremacist, “Republicans”? The same group who is currently preventing them from becoming a state?
Steeplejack (phone)
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
Because she is a Republican herself.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
FTFY
Adam K
@Bess: Puerto Rico already voted for statehood. The press largely ignored it.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/09/us/puerto-rico-statehood-vote-2017/index.html
rikyrah
The Koch Brothers vs. Jimmy Kimmel
by Nancy LeTourneau
September 20, 2017
I have written before that, for Republicans, the 2018 midterms are shaping up to be a battle of the oligarchs, pitting the Koch brothers and so-called “establishment Republicans” against Robert Mercer and his band of insurgents led by Steve Bannon. One thing that could empower the Mercer side of that equation is that the Koch brothers are not happy with what their wholly owned subsidiary—the Republican Party—has accomplished.
Perhaps that gives you some idea of the urgency many Republicans feel about repealing Obamacare. Failure could mean massive losses in the midterms followed by a hostile takeover of the party by Robert Mercer and Steve Bannon.
Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
The island has needed fiscal help from Congress for many years now and it hasn’t been forthcoming. So I’m sure they’re not surprised that the GOP and their Cheesy Poof in Chief won’t acknowledge their suffering any more now than before.
rikyrah
Rich Lowry, Donald Trump, and ‘The Handmaid’s Tale’
by Martin Longman
September 20, 2017
It’s kind of amazing what Republican politicians are willing to say once they’ve made the decision to retire. For example, Rep. David Reichert of Washington’s 8th congressional district, recently had some candid things to say about President Trump. The congressman has an interesting background. While serving in the King County sheriff’s department in the 2000’s, he helped track down and arrest the Green River Killer. Gary Ridgway was responsible for murdering perhaps as many as 90 women, primarily in the Pacific Northwest. Reichert became a bit of a hero for apprehending him, and that launched his political career. It probably also helped him survive in a competitive district through a couple of rough election cycles for Republicans. For whatever reasons, however, Reichert doesn’t want to test 2018 and he recently announced that he won’t seek reelection.
Now that he doesn’t really need to worry about what his right-leaning constituents think, he’s willing to be honest about what he thinks of our president:
Bess
PR has now conducted 5 votes for statehood. The last one lost 54% to 46%. The big problem seems to be that PRs would have to pay federal income tax if they became a state. I’m betting very few PRs earn enough money to pay much, if any, fed income tax. The bar is pretty high.
Congress will not always be controlled by Republicans.
If PR had a couple of senators they could swing some weight in the Senate. Look at friggin’ Montana with ~ 3 voters per senator.
Villago Delenda Est
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: You beat me to the goto meme for Donald. Evil brown people who speak a furren language.
Many, many more Puerto Ricans have served in the US military than anyone in the Drumpf Crime Syndicate.
NotMax
@Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe)
My mind reading helmet is at the shop.
:)
(And be careful about using the abbreviation PR. Understand why and am certain you meant it innocently but PR is also a historically derogatory term applied to Puerto Ricans (see: West Side Story) )
rikyrah
Graham-Cassidy: Can the Senate Republicans Get to 50?
by Martin Longman
September 20, 2017
Senate Republicans seem exasperated with Rand Paul’s contempt for their stupid Graham-Cassidy health care idiocy. But apparently they aren’t even trying to change his mind. I don’t think most Democrats trust Sen. Paul to vote ‘no,’ but his Republican colleagues seem convinced that he will. That’s why they’re focused on flipping two votes from the three members who voted against and killed the moronic skinny repeal bill back in early August.
Of the three, Sen. Susan Collins of Maine seems like the hardest case. But if they can’t convince her to basically walk back everything she’s said about health care over the last two months, they’ll have to get both Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska to come over to their fantasyland idea of rational health care policymaking.
Now, Murkowski and Collins are both supporters of Planned Parenthood and while they might not have the best voting records, they’re more pro- than anti-choice. I suppose neither side would really want to claim Murkowski, but she’s definitely an unnatural ally of the Graham-Cassidy bill.
Villago Delenda Est
@rikyrah: A takeover by Mercer and Bannon would only accelerate the death of a party that needs to die.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
Not if they can help it.
jl
” Does he not know Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory? Does he not give a shit because its inhabitants are mostly non-white? Both? ”
That is a good example of the vagueness of the term ‘white’ for race/ethnicity. The territory’s people say, and their genes indicate, that they are mostly southern European. But I guess with just enough admixture of Native American and African in 10 to 20 percent to make the place ‘non-white’?
Demographically, by any of several criteria, Puerot Rico is between 70 and 80 percent ‘white’.
Or maybe mere fact of Hispanic ethnicity makes them ‘non-white’? Or, not enough rich people?
But, is true, that for whatever reason, US gov considers them fit to shove around and discriminate against in various ways.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico#Demographics
Jay Noble
@Bess: They just did. It’s in Congress’s hands now
TenguPhule
@rikyrah:
$400 million dollars can buy quite a lot of Republican virtue.
Ajabu
I complained recently (but before the hurricanes) that I didn’t want the USVI discussed because I didn’t want to tip Trump off that he could also fuck with the territories.
Apparently, it didn’t matter. He’s got no use for places that are primarily inhabited by POC.
jl
Also, I request a post from Adam on US national security policy on ‘Nambia’.
Trump tells African leaders his friends are ‘going to your countries trying to get rich’ — and makes up country of Nambia
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/trump-tells-african-leaders-his-friends-are-going-to-your-countries-trying-to-get-rich-and-makes-up-country-of-nambia/
NotMax
The times they are a-changing.
rikyrah
On health care, the GOP literally doesn’t know what it’s doing
09/20/17 12:57 PM—UPDATED 09/20/17 01:19 PM
By Steve Benen
A Bloomberg News report noted in passing yesterday that Senate Republicans are gearing up to pass a sweeping health care overhaul, but they’re also “still trying to figure out what it’s in the bill.” It was practically the basis for an awkward joke: the GOP lawmakers who are ready to cast one of the most important votes of their careers are the same Republicans who have no idea what they’re voting on.
And I mean that quite literally. Vox asked nine GOP senators yesterday to explain why Graham-Cassidy is a worthwhile proposal, and not one of them could come up with a good answer. Asked how the health care system would be better under this proposal, Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) replied, “Look, we’re in the back seat of a convertible being driven by Thelma and Louise, and we’re headed toward the canyon…. So we have to get out of the car, and you have to have a car to get into, and this is the only car there is.”
Axios reported this morning that Republicans have adopted a “Repeal first, ask questions later” posture.
schrodingers_cat
@jl: Whiteness seems pretty arbitrary weren’t the pale Irish not considered white not that long ago?
Chyron HR
@rikyrah:
Is he aware that Louise also wants the ACA to be destroyed?
dmsilev
@jl: What is Trump’s policy towards Freedonia?
Chyron HR
@jl:
He blesses the rains down in Nambia.
They’re terrific, the wettest ever.
TenguPhule
@rikyrah:
So they intend to jump off of the cliff from the car because its the only car available.
Seems legit.
NotMax
@dmsilev
About the same as his stance on Bacteria.
;)
jl
@schrodingers_cat: Somebody in family has an old farm business manual from great gandad or uncle from late 19th century. There was a section on different types of farm work gangs and how to deal with them
Your Irish workgangs worked hard and willing to work for cheap, but you had to be careful with them. They were truculent, easy to take offense, drunkards and resorted to violence very quickly. Beat each other up and wrecked stuff. Hindoo and Sikh work gangs acted like grown-ups, but were sneaky with the bargaining, just like the Chinese. But those groups were inclined to cheat if you didn’t watch closely. Irish weren’t bright enough to try fancy tricks. They’d just start loafing and easy to catch. Japanese work gangs were great, if you could find one. I didn’t see a section on English or German work gangs,
Elizabelle
@jl: At least he didn’t say Nubia.
Namibia joins us in asking “wtf, mon?”
Citizen_X
Of course Nambia exists. That’s the country you get to through the wardrobe, right?
chris
@TenguPhule: Please add “Doctor” Price to the tumbrel manifest.
(Actual reporting from Politico!)
And of course this from 2009:
chris
Help! In moderation for….
dmsilev
@TenguPhule: I get less of a Thelma and Louise vibe from him and more a Wile E Coyote.
NotMax
@Citizen_X
As in The Lyin’, the Rich and the Wardrobe.
trollhattan
@NotMax:
What kind of church has wardens? “You are not to leave until your sentan…the service is ovah, Beauregard.”
trollhattan
@Citizen_X:
I think that’s the Republic of Nambla.
Elizabelle
Fuck the Fucking NYTimes Breaking News bulletin:
jl
@Elizabelle:
At least there was a Nubia. Would be cool for Trump to talk about the olden goldies of African history.
“Nubia, smoking hot queens, very hot, stay in great shape. Very classy queens. Kush, top archers, terrific archers. Taharqa, high energy, a winner. Built some great temples, He’s done great work and people are noticing and talking about him more and more. They made Egypt great again. Many people are saying that”
rikyrah
Police Identify White Cornell Student Arrested Following Assault of Black Cornell Student
By Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs, Zachary Silver and Drew Musto
Ithaca Police on Tuesday identified the Cornell student charged with assault following a recent Collegetown altercation in which a black Cornell student said he was called the N-word and punched in the face by a group of white men.
Police identified a 19-year-old, John Greenwood, as the Cornell student charged with misdemeanor assault after he was arrested early on Friday morning. A city official, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed that Greenwood is white. Police did not release a mugshot.
Greenwood appears to be the same student who goes by Jack on a now-deleted squash player profile on the Cornell Athletics website. There is only one John Greenwood who is currently a Cornell student, according to the University’s people search website.
Greenwood did not respond to an inquiry, but Ithaca Attorney Raymond Schlather J.D. ’76, said in an email late on Tuesday that he is representing Greenwood and that his client “was in no way involved in any physical altercation of any kind” and did not commit any crime.
“To be clear, the use of the n word, and any related racist or derogatory language, is completely unacceptable not only at Cornell but anywhere in America,” Schlather said. “My client understands this well; such language not only offends his values but does not reflect the person he is.”
Jay Noble
FWIW – There are more Puerto Ricans on the Mainland than the Island. Being a New Yorker, Trump may think Puerto Rico is just where those folks up in the Bronx have their beach houses
Timurid
Cassidy-Graham is dangerous not just because of the obvious threats to life and property. The political consequences are long lasting and insidious. In effect, blue states will be forced to bend the knee to red states. That’s the kind of of thing that makes all the hyperbole about “civil war” a tiny bit more real.
Insane Clown POTUS
PR and DC statehood would reduce the outsize influence of low population states in the senate and the electoral college. It should be pursued as soon we regain power.
rikyrah
Sen @BillCassidy called our reading of his health care bill on pre-existing conditions false. Here’s how we read it: https://t.co/6vkONctK7B https://t.co/sA4wAEXvh3
— NPR (@NPR) September 20, 2017
rikyrah
Russian-Controlled Facebook Accounts Organized Trump Events
by Nancy LeTourneau
September 20, 2017
…………………..
That was followed up by this one today:
The fact that this most recent report identifies events that were advertised to provide direct support for Trump takes this story to a new level. As does this:
rikyrah
Grassley: Repealing Obamacare is more important than whatever replaces it https://t.co/3Ut5eDOIAf pic.twitter.com/zMUvraetfW
— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) September 20, 2017
rikyrah
Because he’s a petty cowardly man-baby.
Trump blocks woman with stage 4 cancer on Twitter after she criticized his latest health care plan https://t.co/zRZeX7FqLt pic.twitter.com/LsGBGqXCUp
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) September 20, 2017
NotMax
Not yet sundown on the East coast, but shall take an opportunity to say Happy New Year to those who observe the Jewish holidays.
Congress not in session Thursday and Friday – 2 fewer days to rush through hurtful garbage.
rikyrah
Breaking: #Iran is adhering to Nuclear Deal, says Head of US Strategic Command Gen John Hyten
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) September 20, 2017
Spanky
@Timurid: Yeah, history has been repeating itself with greater frequency lately, and not as farce. But the right wing is smug in their righteousness, and just don’t care.
Stan
it isn’t just Trump who doesn’t know Puerto Rico is part of the USA. The weather geeks on the TV news don’t seem to know. I swear last night, on MSNBC no less, someone said the hurricane was definitely going to pound Puerto Rico but they didn’t know if it would strike the US. Duh…….
Aleta
I wonder if the Aerecibo telescope will recover if it’s damaged. The receiver’s suspended on long cables over the dish. (The dish part is set inside a natural depression on a mountain top.) They were already talking about having to close it unless funding outside the NSF could be found. It receives around or < 15 million a year from NSF and NASA to operate.
Lately there's a bigger one of its kind in China. So researchers can go do their runs in China (// and use their grant money to stay at Tr hotels and conf centers//) Or redesign their research to use the different type radio telescope that the Europeans run in Chile.
(Cynically speaking (no facts or realistic-ness) trump and friends could try to fund some inefficient but destructive mining operation in PR — they've talked about gold deposits on (I think) federal forest land in PR.)
Roger Moore
@TenguPhule:
I think he’s trying to say that ACA is heading off the cliff, so they’re trying to bail into whatever car is available. Of course that’s obvious bullshit; if ACA is heading for a cliff, it’s only because Trump is at the wheel.
jl
@Aleta: ” they’ve talked about gold deposits on (I think) federal forest land in PR.) ”
Make America Great Again. Gold mines, ironworks, brick factories, lime kilns, COAL, gas plants, steam boilers, rivet factories!
Laura
@rikyrah: We know they know what they’re doing -there serving up tax cuts for their Owners. Therefore, the details of “healthcare” are irrelevant.
rikyrah
@jl:
I.JUST.CAN’T.
Felonius Monk
These are rhetorical questions are they not?
rikyrah
@rikyrah:
I know that…I’ve always known it.
rikyrah
NEW: 100 percent of Puerto Rico reportedly without electricity as Maria slowly edges away from the coast: https://t.co/OWsRtAyTnQ pic.twitter.com/Q2S4jbbd6H
— Capital Weather Gang (@capitalweather) September 20, 2017
rikyrah
BREAKING: Mueller Seeks White House Documents Related to Trump’s Actions as President https://t.co/BQN1By8wZE
— Holly O’Reilly (@AynRandPaulRyan) September 20, 2017
Elizabelle
@Roger Moore:
I am just in despair at these fuckers pushing Graham-Cassidy.
hueyplong
Apparently Betty Cracker doesn’t understand that any item about Trump’s ignorance concerning Puerto Rico must contain several paragraphs of contemplation about whether that ignorance is pleasing to his base.
trollhattan
@rikyrah:
Fun fact: Nambia is site of the Bowling Green Massacre. You could look it up.
Villago Delenda Est
@rikyrah:
Shorter Greenwood: He’s sorry he got caught.
jl
@Elizabelle:
” I am just in despair at these fuckers pushing Graham-Cassidy. ”
There is hope. the major health insurance industry group, AHIP, just came out strongly opposed to G-C because it is inept, incoherent BS. We can use that when contact Congress.
ruemara
He can do both, Betty. And he does.
Villago Delenda Est
@jl: Buggy whips! Don’t forget the buggy whips!
hueyplong
@rikyrah: Do we have reason to hope that Trump might stroke out at the request from Mueller? I personally think an Edith Wilson-like regency headed by Melania would be kind of fun to watch after these 8 months.
rikyrah
@Elizabelle:
the hate grows for these people.
Aleta
@rikyrah: wow. I wonder if they sold hats, solicited donations at those rallies as they did at the other ones. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve also traced some communication with a Fla staffer (most were unpaid though).
I seem to remember there was a blogger in Florida connected in some way to the famous pro-Russia hacker, and that the blogger was in touch w the campaign’s ‘secret weapon data analysis room’ in Texas. (The data operation that jared got credit for running, via stories put out after the election about how brilliant he was. Wonder if he’s still taking credit ….)
NotMax
@Villago Delenda Est
A chicken in every pot and a celluloid collar in every bureau!
Elizabelle
@trollhattan: LOL. Thank you.
Mike in NC
Trump is vaguely aware of an island in the Caribbean named Puerto Rico, but thinks since most of the people there speak Spanish as well as English it must be a part of Mexico. He’ll propose extending The Wall to block them. Otherwise, those people aren’t worth wasting one of his beautiful thoughts on.
Same goes for the Virgin Islands. Trump did visit them once as a young man when he was seeking to deflower some virgins.
chris
@chris: Thank you!
hueyplong
@trollhattan: It’s also interesting to note that Nambia is the only predominantly non-white country from which the Trump Administration welcomes immigrants and refugees. He thinks they’re doing great things and is especially pleased at how popular he is with their populace.
ruckus
@Bess:
Right now I’d bet it would be very close to a no vote. Would you want to vote to have drumpf for your president? I didn’t think so.
Aleta
@hueyplong: A CAT scan of his brain would be a big help right now (if the results could be public–fat chance).
ruckus
@Jeffro:
You are over thinking this.
The only thing shitstain asks is, “What are they saying about me?”
Millard Filmore
@NotMax:
“hutrful garbage” healthcare … Trump’s hurtcare.
Mnemosyne
@NotMax:
In 1902, Virginia’s legislature passed a new constitution that mandated racial segregation.
Yes, it’s such a mystery what might have motivated that church congregation to re-name themselves after Robert E. Lee the following year.
It’s like the internet doesn’t exist for journalists sometimes. It took me 5 minutes to Google that.
ruckus
@rikyrah:
They are in shock that rethuglicans don’t care about policy? What fucking planet did this reporter fall off of?
Mnemosyne
@rikyrah:
“They don’t have a plan, they just hate mine.”
NotMax
@Mnemosyne
Would give the reporter the benefit of the doubt in this case, as I read it as a mention that there are no extant relevant church records to peruse.
Don’t dispute the very high probability of a connection but jumping to a conclusion without direct evidence is not the province of decent reportage.
catclub
@trollhattan: Episcopal Churches. The Wardens are the head of the congregation’s governing body.
They pay the priest and sign contracts for the church (parish) – not the priest.
Deacons in Baptist churches struck me funny when you realize the mascot for Wake Forest Univ – a baptist founded school – is the Demon Deacon.
So satanic baptist church – kinda.
Elizabelle
Poor Puerto Rico.
Hell of a way to get a complete update of your electrical and infrastructure grid. But they will be stronger, in the long run, for it.
Hurricanes concentrate the mind.
trollhattan
@catclub: R.E. Lee was Episcopalian? Would not have guessed and wonder what the church has to say about that today. Hopefully “Don’t be like him.”
mai naem mobile
No,Betty he dosent know and he doesn’t give a flying fuck about it. He is one of those random morons you see in different places who’s always shooting off their opinion on all kinds of stuff but does not know shit. He doesn’t realize that he’s annoyin everybody around him who are also silently laughing at him because they know he doesn’t know crap.
TenguPhule
@Elizabelle:
Did you miss the part where they were already at risk of bankruptcy?
Where do you think the money is going to come from ?
Congress? That may take awhile.
jimmiraybob
I don’t think that he recognizes Blue States as U.S. territory or non-Trumpies as legitimate U.S. citizens.
Roger Moore
@trollhattan:
I think it’s adjacent to Wakanda.
Roger Moore
@hueyplong:
Sadly, the 25th Amendment makes that unlikely. At the slightest hint that Trump was disabled- like the absence of angry tweetstorms triggered by cable news gossip- Pence would be jumping all over the chance to take over.
NotMax
@hueyplong
Would never be Melania, would be Javanka.
Elizabelle
@TenguPhule: No. I know about the bankruptcy. Thinking of a lot of secured assets that got blown away.
But how do you not rebuild an electrical grid and housing? The money will come from somewhere. It has to.
Bobby Thomson
Pretty easily, if you don’t care. Republicans don’t, Trump doesn’t, and quite frankly, most mainlanders don’t. They’ll give to the Red Cross -= maybe – but they don’t even care about Americans in New Orleans.
Bobby Thomson
@jimmiraybob: this. He doesn’t even care about California, so Puerto Rico is way down the list of priorities.
OldDave
@Aleta:
I hope Arecibo stays in business. Way back when I spent a few days there helping with their data reduction computer which was made by the company I worked for. I was able to look up at the suspended antenna platform from under the dish, take the cable car up to the suspended antenna, and there learn in no uncertain terms that I was somewhat afraid of heights.
I also learned how to order breakfast in Spanish. I’d love to go back sometime.
Monala
@jl: In the same Wiki article:
So, even if 75% of Puerto Ricans identify as white, most of them have “borwn” ancestry of one sort or another.
pluky
@trollhattan: he was of “first family” Virginia stock. of course he was Episcopalian (i.e. what the Church of England in America became after the war).
fuckwit
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: it is exactly that. civil war II is imminent. or rather, half the country hasn’t really stopped fighting civil war I.
Chris T.
I’m not sure he has a knob to slobber. Based on the hands, it might be more of a Tic-Tac.
scott alloway
@TenguPhule: What will he do about Freedonia? How about the financial troubles of the Duchy of Grand Fenwick
Aleta
@OldDave: You’re so lucky. Must be beautiful there. Some of the work on ice in Mercury’s craters was done at Arecebo.
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/water-ice-on-mercury
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