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You are here: Home / Open Threads / The Buck Stops with Chuck

The Buck Stops with Chuck

by Betty Cracker|  November 1, 20179:45 am| 95 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Assholes, General Stupidity

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The Fox & Friends social media director is lashing out on Twitter again:

I have just ordered Homeland Security to step up our already Extreme Vetting Program. Being politically correct is fine, but not for this!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 1, 2017

The terrorist came into our country through what is called the "Diversity Visa Lottery Program," a Chuck Schumer beauty. I want merit based.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 1, 2017

We are fighting hard for Merit Based immigration, no more Democrat Lottery Systems. We must get MUCH tougher (and smarter). @foxandfriends

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 1, 2017

"Senator Chuck Schumer helping to import Europes problems" said Col.Tony Shaffer. We will stop this craziness! @foxandfriends

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 1, 2017

President Schumer responded as follows:

I guess it's not too soon to politicize a tragedy.

— Chuck Schumer (@SenSchumer) November 1, 2017

Will the new EXTREMELY Extreme Vetting Program — Now with More Extreme! include the brown paper bag test? Tune in to Fox & Friends tomorrow to find out!

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  1. 1.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 1, 2017 at 9:48 am

    Didn’t an American-born White man just shoot up hundreds of concert attendees in Las Vegas a couple of weeks ago? There are dangerous, unhinged people of all stripes in this country. This has nothing to do with immigration.

  2. 2.

    yam

    November 1, 2017 at 9:49 am

    Too bad he didn’t do any of that Extreme Vetting on his own staff…

  3. 3.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 1, 2017 at 9:49 am

    I can’t even. Gah.

  4. 4.

    yam

    November 1, 2017 at 9:50 am

    @Patricia Kayden: I guess we just need more good guys with trucks or something.

  5. 5.

    FlipYrWhig

    November 1, 2017 at 9:51 am

    While we’re at it, can we have a Merit Based presidency, please?

  6. 6.

    Big Ole Hound

    November 1, 2017 at 9:52 am

    Enough current news. I am going to be an ostrich and stick my head in the sand while on the couch reading detective trash rather than look or listen or read any crap from anywhere. Tomorrow I will re-enter the world.

  7. 7.

    Corner Stone

    November 1, 2017 at 9:52 am

    EXTREMELY Extreme Vetting Program — Now with More Extreme!

    SOUR BLAST Extreme Vetting Program! Now with MORE SOUR EXTREMENESS!

    Nothing means anything anymore.

  8. 8.

    Jack the Second

    November 1, 2017 at 9:52 am

    The day Trump stepped up and truly became the President this country needed.

  9. 9.

    The Moar You Know

    November 1, 2017 at 9:53 am

    The day Trump stepped up and truly became the President this country needed.

    Didn’t know he resigned. That’s great news.

  10. 10.

    Corner Stone

    November 1, 2017 at 9:55 am

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Didn’t an American-born White man just shoot up hundreds of concert attendees in Las Vegas

    Not just any concert attendees! The kind that love the USA more than the others! Country Music Concert Attendees! Real Americans ™ !

  11. 11.

    FlipYrWhig

    November 1, 2017 at 9:56 am

    Trump is just a thoroughly shit human being. Like fractally shit, both shit in totality and shit as far as you zoom in to every shitty micro-part.

  12. 12.

    The Moar You Know

    November 1, 2017 at 9:56 am

    I’m enjoying Schumer’s style, definitely more “fist to the face” than Reid’s “stiletto between the ribs” method of doing things. Both very good. Would like to see Schumer get his shot as Majority Leader, see what he can do with some actual power.

  13. 13.

    Corner Stone

    November 1, 2017 at 9:56 am

    A.B. Stoddard was just making sense on MSNBC talking about this garbage tax cut BS. I don’t have a fever but I may just need to go back to bed anyway.

  14. 14.

    Elizabelle

    November 1, 2017 at 9:57 am

    @Big Ole Hound: Which detective garbage?

    Michael Connelly has a new Bosch out. I think I will take up reading Philip Kerr’s Berlin Noir books (Nazis, days of Hitler).

    Hear you on decompressing.

    And I am going to vote early in Virginia today. Ralph Northam, for the win!

  15. 15.

    Corner Stone

    November 1, 2017 at 9:58 am

    @FlipYrWhig: I read through his garbage ass tweets and was almost overwhelmed with how much I fucking hate Trump.

  16. 16.

    Certified Mutant Enemy

    November 1, 2017 at 9:58 am

    @Patricia Kayden:

    That’s different, because reasons.

  17. 17.

    Corner Stone

    November 1, 2017 at 9:59 am

    @Elizabelle: How could people in VA let this race be so close? I know VA is purple and it is usually tight but this seems wildly ridiculous that so many could be voting R at this point in our country.

  18. 18.

    Redshift

    November 1, 2017 at 9:59 am

    I have just ordered Homeland Security to step up our already Extreme Vetting Program.

    As with all conservative policies, if it doesn’t work when it inevitably doesn’t work, it didn’t fail, we just need to do it harder!

  19. 19.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 1, 2017 at 10:00 am

    @Corner Stone: Yep, me too.

  20. 20.

    schrodingers_cat

    November 1, 2017 at 10:02 am

    Don’t let him fool you, T does not believe in “merit” based immigration as well. He has made the employment based GC process more difficult than it already was, with more bureaucratic hurdles without any increasing in funding or personnel.

  21. 21.

    jeffreyw

    November 1, 2017 at 10:03 am

    Actually, the Gang of 8, including @SenSchumer, did away with the Diversity Visa Program as part of broader reforms. I know, I was there
    — Jeff Flake

  22. 22.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 1, 2017 at 10:03 am

    @Corner Stone: gee, I dunno, racism?

    Keep in mind special elections have turnout issues that we historically suck at.

  23. 23.

    Starfish

    November 1, 2017 at 10:04 am

    Actually, the Gang of 8, including @SenSchumer, did away with the Diversity Visa Program as part of broader reforms. I know, I was there https://t.co/QQFJzPyRzC— Jeff Flake (@JeffFlake) November 1, 2017

    In fact, had the Senate Gang of 8 bill passed the House, it would have ended the Visa Lottery Program AND increased merit based visas. https://t.co/o3qJHHAv1C— Jeff Flake (@JeffFlake) November 1, 2017

  24. 24.

    Redshift

    November 1, 2017 at 10:04 am

    @Corner Stone: There are a lot of stupid and racist white people, and when you estimate likely voters, old white people are more likely to vote in off-year elections, and people with more money are more likely to vote in general.

  25. 25.

    MikeifromArlington

    November 1, 2017 at 10:05 am

    Last min edit to Wikipedia to say, “It is also known as the Shumer Program”

    Dirty f’in rascals

  26. 26.

    satby

    November 1, 2017 at 10:06 am

    @Corner Stone: every day in every way, I hate him more and more.

  27. 27.

    Uncle Ebeneezer

    November 1, 2017 at 10:08 am

    Needs moar EXTREME!

  28. 28.

    Jeffro

    November 1, 2017 at 10:10 am

    @Starfish: Ka-BAM!!! Thanks Senator Flake – you’re still a conservative wackaloon but at least you have some principles and at least you’re speaking out to call Trumpov on his bullshit. I’ll take it.

  29. 29.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 1, 2017 at 10:11 am

    And it almost goes without saying that this dude was from *yet another* country not singled out in Il Donaldo’s unconstitutional travel ban.

    Oh, and Miss Lindsay wants him detained without any legal rights, like in Gitmo.

  30. 30.

    schrodingers_cat

    November 1, 2017 at 10:12 am

    @Jeffro: Flake has always been good on immigration across the board, unlike say the Senator from Vt or his friend Chuck Grassley.

  31. 31.

    lethargytartare

    November 1, 2017 at 10:12 am

    @Corner Stone:

    SOUR BLAST Extreme Vetting Program! Now with MORE SOUR EXTREMENESS!

    Does it have electrolytes?

  32. 32.

    Betty Cracker

    November 1, 2017 at 10:12 am

    @satby: Me too. I didn’t know I was even capable of hating someone this much. The things I have learned about myself in the Trump era have not been good things!

  33. 33.

    Roger Moore

    November 1, 2017 at 10:13 am

    @jeffreyw:
    And the diversity visa program was passed before Schumer was in the Senate. But nobody cares about your stupid facts and evidence.

  34. 34.

    schrodingers_cat

    November 1, 2017 at 10:13 am

    @Gin & Tonic:Doesn’t the Constitution say otherwise.

  35. 35.

    schrodingers_cat

    November 1, 2017 at 10:14 am

    @Betty Cracker: I swear constantly, these days. That was not the case before.

  36. 36.

    gene108

    November 1, 2017 at 10:15 am

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Well he got his inspiration from a fine neo-Nazi, who plowed his car into a crowd killing one and injuring 19, in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    We need some extreme vetting on white people.

  37. 37.

    satby

    November 1, 2017 at 10:17 am

    @Betty Cracker: I hate him, and hate every one of my fellow citizens who voted for him or the third party critters and allowed him to slither into office. They hate the rest of us just as much. There’s no good end to this, we’re just refusing to recognize that the second civil war is in progress.

  38. 38.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 1, 2017 at 10:17 am

    @jeffreyw: so it’s Paul Ryan’s fault then.

  39. 39.

    schrodingers_cat

    November 1, 2017 at 10:17 am

    @Roger Moore: Wasn’t that the part of the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act?
    John Kelly, football goalie (we hope), went after Rep Wilson now Boss is going after a Jewish Senator, coincidence? I think not.

  40. 40.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 1, 2017 at 10:18 am

    @schrodingers_cat: The one I’ve read does. And I’m sure the NY DA’s office will say “uh, we got this, OK?” Well, I guess until Cy Vance takes another bribe from Trump’s lawyer, then all bets are off.

  41. 41.

    schrodingers_cat

    November 1, 2017 at 10:19 am

    @Gin & Tonic: Why do you think Manafort needs 3 passports?

  42. 42.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 1, 2017 at 10:22 am

    @Betty Cracker: I’ve gone all the way round to merely abandoning all attempts to think about them. Some people are just garbage and it’s not my fault. I need to accept that and move on with my day to day business.

  43. 43.

    Corner Stone

    November 1, 2017 at 10:23 am

    @lethargytartare: It has the EXTREMELY SOUR ELECTROLYTES we need! Throw your old Extreme Vetting Program in the trash, along with the Constitution, and STEP UP to the SOUR EXTREMENESS VETTING!!

  44. 44.

    gvg

    November 1, 2017 at 10:23 am

    Donald J. Trump
    ✔
    @realDonaldTrump

    I have just ordered Homeland Security to step up our already Extreme Vetting Program. Being politically correct is fine, but not for this!

    In other words he has no idea what to do except uselessly run his mouth.

  45. 45.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 1, 2017 at 10:24 am

    @schrodingers_cat: I don’t have the slightest idea, but I’d bet real cash money the US passports aren’t the only ones he owns.

    There was a discussion last night about the multiple US passports, but he doesn’t seem to fall into any of the legitimate categories that were discussed. I could see two legitimately, but can’t get to three.

  46. 46.

    Jeffro

    November 1, 2017 at 10:26 am

    Hey is this a sensible take or what?

    So what do we do? Do we learn to “live with” these low-level attacks? Let’s begin with what we should not do — demonize an entire religion, assail our own democratic institutions, demean our intelligence community or politicize every corner of government. Stop attacking localities as alleged “sanctuary cities” (whatever those are) when they put a premium on cooperating with local communities. (In other words, local and state authorities should be entrusted to set priorities and to encourage reporting of suspicious activity from every community.)

    Beyond that, we should continue to do the big things (destroy the Islamic State’s territorial haven) and the not-so-big-but-critically-important things (more extensive use of barriers, improved police relations with Muslim communities). We control what we can, and we understand that we cannot eliminate every threat, of every size, of every origin. That is how Israel has survived since its inception; that is how we address ordinary, domestic crime.

    This should not be confused with complacency or fatalism. To the contrary, we should remain determined to do whatever is in our power to halt the scourge of Islamist terrorism, but in doing so, we should stop doing silly, time-wasting, counterproductive things for political reasons. We should stop stoke fear of our fellow Americans and of foreigners. Focus on what’s doable and avoid idiotic stunts that make us no safer and that do great damage to the fabric of our democracy.

    Jennifer Rubin sounds like Obama, or any other mainstream Dem. (She must have read ‘Chasing Ghosts’!) I think most folks understand the ‘cannot eliminate every threat’ part – it’d be nice if the GOP would quit pretending like they have the ability to do that, and quit calling Dems traitors for suggesting it’s impossible.

  47. 47.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    November 1, 2017 at 10:26 am

    under a merit based system, Melania would still be escorting in serbia.

  48. 48.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 1, 2017 at 10:28 am

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: under the existing system she was already here illegally…

  49. 49.

    schrodingers_cat

    November 1, 2017 at 10:28 am

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Under the merit based system proposed by Cotton-Perdue many Nobel Prize winners would not have qualified for a Green Card.

  50. 50.

    burnspbesq

    November 1, 2017 at 10:30 am

    OT:

    So one of the revenue-raisers being discussed by Senate Finance is a 25 percent excise tax on exempt organizations for compensation in excess of $1 million per year paid to the five highest paid employees. At virtually every Power 5 conference school, the football and men’sbasketball Coaches are top-5.

    The reaction to this ought to be amusing.

  51. 51.

    d58826

    November 1, 2017 at 10:31 am

    Man just reading thru the comments on this Diversity program and never realized the number of people who were such experts. There are to many long and well reasoned comments on the program to link to. However they can ghenertally be summarized to fall into three groups:
    1. F*k libs want to destroy the country
    2. G*D f*k libatards hate American and want to destroy it
    3. F*K libs hate Trump and his MAGA

  52. 52.

    zhena gogolia

    November 1, 2017 at 10:31 am

    @Corner Stone:

    Yeah, this is surpassing anything I’ve ever experienced.

  53. 53.

    d58826

    November 1, 2017 at 10:33 am

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: You are assuming that under any system that she was here legally before latching on to Der Fuhrer

  54. 54.

    zhena gogolia

    November 1, 2017 at 10:33 am

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Me too, it’s really getting on my husband’s nerves.

  55. 55.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 1, 2017 at 10:33 am

    @burnspbesq: wouldn’t that just make people redo compensation as $999k salary plus capital gains bullshit? It also doesn’t sound like it would raise a lot of money, a couple million per organization, how many of them are there?

  56. 56.

    schrodingers_cat

    November 1, 2017 at 10:35 am

    @zhena gogolia:Husband kitteh can relate to that.

  57. 57.

    d58826

    November 1, 2017 at 10:35 am

    @Starfish: Oh that’s gotta hurt. What is the next level down from Der Fuhrer’s S*T list?

  58. 58.

    eric

    November 1, 2017 at 10:36 am

    would this include mega churches?

  59. 59.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 1, 2017 at 10:37 am

    @Elizabelle:

    Ralph Northam, for the win!

    Please let it be so!! I can’t imagine how smug Rs will be if Gillespie squeaks out a win. If Adams win, things will get even worse.

  60. 60.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 1, 2017 at 10:38 am

    @d58826:

    3. F*K libs hate Trump and his MAGA

    Well that one is absolutely correct. We sure do.

  61. 61.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 1, 2017 at 10:39 am

    @Patricia Kayden: why don’t you want America to be great?

  62. 62.

    d58826

    November 1, 2017 at 10:39 am

    @Roger Moore: I read a long (and serious article) that it was passed signed by Bush 41.

  63. 63.

    Gin & Tonic

    November 1, 2017 at 10:42 am

    @Patricia Kayden: Not me. I love MAGA. Manafort And Gates Arrested.

  64. 64.

    Elizabelle

    November 1, 2017 at 10:45 am

    @Patricia Kayden: I’ve not bought a home in Virginia because I am sick of the constant horror over what the GOP puts up every 4 years, and the legislature.

    If Gillespie wins, and I do not think he will, I will be relocating to a more reliably blue state. Or Europe or elsewhere for a few years. Will probably do that anyway. Ready for a change.

  65. 65.

    burnspbesq

    November 1, 2017 at 10:46 am

    @Major Major Major Major:

    End runs are a little more challenging for exempt orgs because they can’t tie comp to the performance of the company’s stock. And although coaches are the high-visibility examples, C-level execs of hospital systems make eye-opening amounts of money.

    I expect this will die a quiet death before a bill gets to the floor of either house. It’s mostly a bullshit show of “yes, we’re doing our phony-baloney jobs.” But I’ve been surprised before.

  66. 66.

    Betty Cracker

    November 1, 2017 at 10:47 am

    @Major Major Major Major: I cycle through different phases, sometimes within the same hour. I’m a “fixer” by nature, so I keep coming back to “do something,” and I try. But my efforts seem so thoroughly inadequate to the scale of the calamity. Gah. Time to go back to “ignore the whole goddamned thing” for a while…

  67. 67.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 1, 2017 at 10:47 am

    @burnspbesq: thanks!

  68. 68.

    Weaselone

    November 1, 2017 at 10:48 am

    @Major Major Major Major:
    This is actually something i’m in favor of. You’re right that it would result in lots of 999,999 dollar salaries, but the American Red cross and similar large non profits aren’t going to be able to dodge that with options and stock grants.

  69. 69.

    burnspbesq

    November 1, 2017 at 10:49 am

    @eric:

    Impossible to be sure until there is statutory language to look at, but it should.

  70. 70.

    Steeplejack

    November 1, 2017 at 10:49 am

    @Big Ole Hound:

    Ooh, what detective trash are you reading? I’m always looking for recommendations.

  71. 71.

    randy khan

    November 1, 2017 at 10:50 am

    I am still amazed that we have a President who is less coherent than the average Facebook troll.

  72. 72.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 1, 2017 at 10:51 am

    @Betty Cracker: I’m not a very good zen practitioner but I try. Some people just suck and it’s not my fault. At the end of the day I have to take the bread out of the oven or it will burn.

  73. 73.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 1, 2017 at 10:53 am

    @randy khan: he’s an ambulatory YouTube comment.

  74. 74.

    Steeplejack

    November 1, 2017 at 10:56 am

    @Elizabelle:

    Michael Connelly has a new Bosch out.

    All right! Need to hop over to the Nook loading dock.

    Second the recommendation on the Philip Kerr novels. I had to pace myself on those, though, because they are dark.

  75. 75.

    schrodingers_cat

    November 1, 2017 at 11:01 am

    @Steeplejack: For me Agatha Christie is an old favorite, also too Wodehouse, when I need to unwind.

  76. 76.

    Elie

    November 1, 2017 at 11:01 am

    @Corner Stone:
    And many of the survivors of that attack have been receiving hate messages from trolls acusing them of faking their injuries because the attack never happened- that it was staged or faked!

  77. 77.

    Roger Moore

    November 1, 2017 at 11:03 am

    @d58826:

    3. F*K libs hate Trump and his MAGA

    Who doesn’t like Making Attorneys Get Attorneys?

  78. 78.

    sherparick

    November 1, 2017 at 11:05 am

    @Jeffro: She stopped being a GOP hack I guess in horror of Trump and the Alt-right anti-semitics that surround Trump (and that includes in particular Mr. Stephen Miller). If this was 2009-2015 she would have written a screed about Obama’s softness on Islamic terrorism. Still, she seems to have had her eyes opened about the nature of the Republican Party and the Right-wing Industrial Infotainment Complex she associated with the last 20 years.

  79. 79.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 1, 2017 at 11:06 am

    @Steeplejack: @schrodingers_cat: in that vein I’m enjoying Magpie Murders, which is a Christie-like book embedded in a modern detective story.

  80. 80.

    schrodingers_cat

    November 1, 2017 at 11:07 am

    Campaign Ad for R candidates in midterms, specially focused at their base.
    Extreme vetting to stop extreme wetting, you can depend on it.

  81. 81.

    Just One More Canuck

    November 1, 2017 at 11:09 am

    @Gin & Tonic: MAGA – Make Alcatraz Great Again

  82. 82.

    Big Ole Hound

    November 1, 2017 at 11:10 am

    @Elizabelle: Have to read the new Bosch, although his view of the world is depressing so maybe it will cheer me up.

  83. 83.

    sherparick

    November 1, 2017 at 11:28 am

    @d58826: As opposed to Trump and his Base who are actually destroying the country.

  84. 84.

    J R in WV

    November 1, 2017 at 11:52 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    … he doesn’t seem to fall into any of the legitimate categories that were discussed. I could see two legitimately, but can’t get to three.

    He probably has one original passport, one for use during a wait for a visa to be issued (Russia, Chine, etc) and one for entering Israel to avoid stamps in his original passport that would cause trouble when entering other middle eastern countries at war with Israel. I can see him getting to three easily.

  85. 85.

    Patricia Kayden

    November 1, 2017 at 11:56 am

    @David Merry Christmas Koch: Ouch!!

  86. 86.

    Sab

    November 1, 2017 at 12:00 pm

    Our local clerk of courts race in NE Ohio is really vile. Ed Gillespie would be ashamed of the ads the local Rethug is running.

  87. 87.

    Corner Stone

    November 1, 2017 at 12:06 pm

    @Sab:

    Ed Gillespie would be ashamed of the ads the local Rethug is running.

    Apparently not since Eddie G is, in fact, shameless. The Confederacy Ads he is running are poll tested and approved so he knows what filth he’s producing in his race.

  88. 88.

    Honus

    November 1, 2017 at 12:16 pm

    @Corner Stone: a white kid from ohio radicalized by white supremacist trump supporters drove a car across a pedestrian mall and into a crowd of pedestrians killing a woman and seriously injuring 19 people on August 12. A real Trump special.

  89. 89.

    Miss Bianca

    November 1, 2017 at 12:58 pm

    @Steeplejack: I ‘m not sure “dark” is the word I’d use to describe those Philip Kerrs. I found the first one just really gross on all levels. Completely killed any desire I had to read any of the others, and as a history student, that was my period of study, so I know some dark. Too bad. I was really looking for more than a misogynistic Philip Marlowe knock-off. Oh, well.

  90. 90.

    Jean

    November 1, 2017 at 1:26 pm

    @Elizabelle: Love Kerr’s Berlin Noir series. Also, yes, to Ralph Northam. Volunteering for the campaign has been good. Great ground game this year.

  91. 91.

    TenguPhule

    November 1, 2017 at 1:48 pm

    @satby:

    There’s no good end to this, we’re just refusing to recognize that the second civil war is in progress.

    You can’t say that here, that’s considered crazy talk.

  92. 92.

    retr2327

    November 1, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Here’s what I haven’t seen yet: yes, you can properly get a second passport under certain circumstances. But is that one with a different number? The reports on Manafort have stated that he had three with different numbers, which may — or may not — change things entirely. Anyone with knowledge care to weigh in?

  93. 93.

    Citizen Scientist

    November 1, 2017 at 2:38 pm

    @Elizabelle: The Kerr Bernie Gunther books are great.

  94. 94.

    Corner Stone

    November 1, 2017 at 2:50 pm

    @Citizen Scientist: I think I’m going to check them out. Look good enough to give a chance on, anyway.
    Although I have never been a fan of the “tough talking” variety.

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    DocPhysics

    November 1, 2017 at 3:04 pm

    @lethargytartare: and is it gluten-free?

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