Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Compromise? There is no middle ground between a firefighter and an arsonist.

Baby steps, because the Republican Party is full of angry babies.

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

Jack Smith: “Why did you start campaigning in the middle of my investigation?!”

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.

A tremendous foreign policy asset… to all of our adversaries.

’Where will you hide, Roberts, the laws all being flat?’

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires.

I’m more christian than these people and i’m an atheist.

One of our two political parties is a cult whose leader admires Vladimir Putin.

The fundamental promise of conservatism all over the world is a return to an idealized past that never existed.

If you’re gonna whine, it’s time to resign!

Sometimes the world just tells you your cat is here.

Many life forms that would benefit from greater intelligence, sadly, do not have it.

American history and black history cannot be separated.

Republicans do not pay their debts.

We’re watching the self-immolation of the leading world power on a level unprecedented in human history.

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

Someone should tell Republicans that violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, or possibly the first.

Fight them, without becoming them!

He wakes up lying, and he lies all day.

Lick the third rail, it tastes like chocolate!

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The Fox & Friends social media director is lashing out on Twitter again:

President Schumer responded as follows:

Will the new EXTREMELY Extreme Vetting Program — Now with More Extreme! include the brown paper bag test? Tune in to Fox & Friends tomorrow to find out!

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  1. 1.

    Patricia Kayden

    Didn’t an American-born White man just shoot up hundreds of concert attendees in Las Vegas a couple of weeks ago? There are dangerous, unhinged people of all stripes in this country. This has nothing to do with immigration.

  6. 6.

    Big Ole Hound

    Enough current news. I am going to be an ostrich and stick my head in the sand while on the couch reading detective trash rather than look or listen or read any crap from anywhere. Tomorrow I will re-enter the world.

  7. 7.

    Corner Stone

    EXTREMELY Extreme Vetting Program — Now with More Extreme!

    SOUR BLAST Extreme Vetting Program! Now with MORE SOUR EXTREMENESS!

    Nothing means anything anymore.

  9. 9.

    The Moar You Know

    The day Trump stepped up and truly became the President this country needed.

    Didn’t know he resigned. That’s great news.

  10. 10.

    Corner Stone

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Didn’t an American-born White man just shoot up hundreds of concert attendees in Las Vegas

    Not just any concert attendees! The kind that love the USA more than the others! Country Music Concert Attendees! Real Americans ™ !

  11. 11.

    FlipYrWhig

    Trump is just a thoroughly shit human being. Like fractally shit, both shit in totality and shit as far as you zoom in to every shitty micro-part.

  12. 12.

    The Moar You Know

    I’m enjoying Schumer’s style, definitely more “fist to the face” than Reid’s “stiletto between the ribs” method of doing things. Both very good. Would like to see Schumer get his shot as Majority Leader, see what he can do with some actual power.

  13. 13.

    Corner Stone

    A.B. Stoddard was just making sense on MSNBC talking about this garbage tax cut BS. I don’t have a fever but I may just need to go back to bed anyway.

  14. 14.

    Elizabelle

    @Big Ole Hound: Which detective garbage?

    Michael Connelly has a new Bosch out. I think I will take up reading Philip Kerr’s Berlin Noir books (Nazis, days of Hitler).

    Hear you on decompressing.

    And I am going to vote early in Virginia today. Ralph Northam, for the win!

  17. 17.

    Corner Stone

    @Elizabelle: How could people in VA let this race be so close? I know VA is purple and it is usually tight but this seems wildly ridiculous that so many could be voting R at this point in our country.

  18. 18.

    Redshift

    I have just ordered Homeland Security to step up our already Extreme Vetting Program.

    As with all conservative policies, if it doesn’t work when it inevitably doesn’t work, it didn’t fail, we just need to do it harder!

  20. 20.

    schrodingers_cat

    Don’t let him fool you, T does not believe in “merit” based immigration as well. He has made the employment based GC process more difficult than it already was, with more bureaucratic hurdles without any increasing in funding or personnel.

  21. 21.

    jeffreyw

    Actually, the Gang of 8, including @SenSchumer, did away with the Diversity Visa Program as part of broader reforms. I know, I was there
    — Jeff Flake

  24. 24.

    Redshift

    @Corner Stone: There are a lot of stupid and racist white people, and when you estimate likely voters, old white people are more likely to vote in off-year elections, and people with more money are more likely to vote in general.

  25. 25.

    MikeifromArlington

    Last min edit to Wikipedia to say, “It is also known as the Shumer Program”

    Dirty f’in rascals

  28. 28.

    Jeffro

    @Starfish: Ka-BAM!!! Thanks Senator Flake – you’re still a conservative wackaloon but at least you have some principles and at least you’re speaking out to call Trumpov on his bullshit. I’ll take it.

  29. 29.

    Gin & Tonic

    And it almost goes without saying that this dude was from *yet another* country not singled out in Il Donaldo’s unconstitutional travel ban.

    Oh, and Miss Lindsay wants him detained without any legal rights, like in Gitmo.

  32. 32.

    Betty Cracker

    @satby: Me too. I didn’t know I was even capable of hating someone this much. The things I have learned about myself in the Trump era have not been good things!

  33. 33.

    Roger Moore

    @jeffreyw:
    And the diversity visa program was passed before Schumer was in the Senate. But nobody cares about your stupid facts and evidence.

  36. 36.

    gene108

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Well he got his inspiration from a fine neo-Nazi, who plowed his car into a crowd killing one and injuring 19, in Charlottesville, Virginia.

    We need some extreme vetting on white people.

  37. 37.

    satby

    @Betty Cracker: I hate him, and hate every one of my fellow citizens who voted for him or the third party critters and allowed him to slither into office. They hate the rest of us just as much. There’s no good end to this, we’re just refusing to recognize that the second civil war is in progress.

  40. 40.

    Gin & Tonic

    @schrodingers_cat: The one I’ve read does. And I’m sure the NY DA’s office will say “uh, we got this, OK?” Well, I guess until Cy Vance takes another bribe from Trump’s lawyer, then all bets are off.

  43. 43.

    Corner Stone

    @lethargytartare: It has the EXTREMELY SOUR ELECTROLYTES we need! Throw your old Extreme Vetting Program in the trash, along with the Constitution, and STEP UP to the SOUR EXTREMENESS VETTING!!

  44. 44.

    gvg

    Donald J. Trump
    ✔
    @realDonaldTrump

    I have just ordered Homeland Security to step up our already Extreme Vetting Program. Being politically correct is fine, but not for this!

    In other words he has no idea what to do except uselessly run his mouth.

  45. 45.

    Gin & Tonic

    @schrodingers_cat: I don’t have the slightest idea, but I’d bet real cash money the US passports aren’t the only ones he owns.

    There was a discussion last night about the multiple US passports, but he doesn’t seem to fall into any of the legitimate categories that were discussed. I could see two legitimately, but can’t get to three.

  46. 46.

    Jeffro

    Hey is this a sensible take or what?

    So what do we do? Do we learn to “live with” these low-level attacks? Let’s begin with what we should not do — demonize an entire religion, assail our own democratic institutions, demean our intelligence community or politicize every corner of government. Stop attacking localities as alleged “sanctuary cities” (whatever those are) when they put a premium on cooperating with local communities. (In other words, local and state authorities should be entrusted to set priorities and to encourage reporting of suspicious activity from every community.)

    Beyond that, we should continue to do the big things (destroy the Islamic State’s territorial haven) and the not-so-big-but-critically-important things (more extensive use of barriers, improved police relations with Muslim communities). We control what we can, and we understand that we cannot eliminate every threat, of every size, of every origin. That is how Israel has survived since its inception; that is how we address ordinary, domestic crime.

    This should not be confused with complacency or fatalism. To the contrary, we should remain determined to do whatever is in our power to halt the scourge of Islamist terrorism, but in doing so, we should stop doing silly, time-wasting, counterproductive things for political reasons. We should stop stoke fear of our fellow Americans and of foreigners. Focus on what’s doable and avoid idiotic stunts that make us no safer and that do great damage to the fabric of our democracy.

    Jennifer Rubin sounds like Obama, or any other mainstream Dem. (She must have read ‘Chasing Ghosts’!) I think most folks understand the ‘cannot eliminate every threat’ part – it’d be nice if the GOP would quit pretending like they have the ability to do that, and quit calling Dems traitors for suggesting it’s impossible.

  50. 50.

    burnspbesq

    OT:

    So one of the revenue-raisers being discussed by Senate Finance is a 25 percent excise tax on exempt organizations for compensation in excess of $1 million per year paid to the five highest paid employees. At virtually every Power 5 conference school, the football and men’sbasketball Coaches are top-5.

    The reaction to this ought to be amusing.

  51. 51.

    d58826

    Man just reading thru the comments on this Diversity program and never realized the number of people who were such experts. There are to many long and well reasoned comments on the program to link to. However they can ghenertally be summarized to fall into three groups:
    1. F*k libs want to destroy the country
    2. G*D f*k libatards hate American and want to destroy it
    3. F*K libs hate Trump and his MAGA

  59. 59.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Elizabelle:

    Ralph Northam, for the win!

    Please let it be so!! I can’t imagine how smug Rs will be if Gillespie squeaks out a win. If Adams win, things will get even worse.

  64. 64.

    Elizabelle

    @Patricia Kayden: I’ve not bought a home in Virginia because I am sick of the constant horror over what the GOP puts up every 4 years, and the legislature.

    If Gillespie wins, and I do not think he will, I will be relocating to a more reliably blue state. Or Europe or elsewhere for a few years. Will probably do that anyway. Ready for a change.

  65. 65.

    burnspbesq

    @Major Major Major Major:

    End runs are a little more challenging for exempt orgs because they can’t tie comp to the performance of the company’s stock. And although coaches are the high-visibility examples, C-level execs of hospital systems make eye-opening amounts of money.

    I expect this will die a quiet death before a bill gets to the floor of either house. It’s mostly a bullshit show of “yes, we’re doing our phony-baloney jobs.” But I’ve been surprised before.

  66. 66.

    Betty Cracker

    @Major Major Major Major: I cycle through different phases, sometimes within the same hour. I’m a “fixer” by nature, so I keep coming back to “do something,” and I try. But my efforts seem so thoroughly inadequate to the scale of the calamity. Gah. Time to go back to “ignore the whole goddamned thing” for a while…

  68. 68.

    Weaselone

    @Major Major Major Major:
    This is actually something i’m in favor of. You’re right that it would result in lots of 999,999 dollar salaries, but the American Red cross and similar large non profits aren’t going to be able to dodge that with options and stock grants.

  71. 71.

    randy khan

    I am still amazed that we have a President who is less coherent than the average Facebook troll.

  74. 74.

    Steeplejack

    @Elizabelle:

    Michael Connelly has a new Bosch out.

    All right! Need to hop over to the Nook loading dock.

    Second the recommendation on the Philip Kerr novels. I had to pace myself on those, though, because they are dark.

  76. 76.

    Elie

    @Corner Stone:
    And many of the survivors of that attack have been receiving hate messages from trolls acusing them of faking their injuries because the attack never happened- that it was staged or faked!

  78. 78.

    sherparick

    @Jeffro: She stopped being a GOP hack I guess in horror of Trump and the Alt-right anti-semitics that surround Trump (and that includes in particular Mr. Stephen Miller). If this was 2009-2015 she would have written a screed about Obama’s softness on Islamic terrorism. Still, she seems to have had her eyes opened about the nature of the Republican Party and the Right-wing Industrial Infotainment Complex she associated with the last 20 years.

  84. 84.

    J R in WV

    @Gin & Tonic:

    … he doesn’t seem to fall into any of the legitimate categories that were discussed. I could see two legitimately, but can’t get to three.

    He probably has one original passport, one for use during a wait for a visa to be issued (Russia, Chine, etc) and one for entering Israel to avoid stamps in his original passport that would cause trouble when entering other middle eastern countries at war with Israel. I can see him getting to three easily.

  86. 86.

    Sab

    Our local clerk of courts race in NE Ohio is really vile. Ed Gillespie would be ashamed of the ads the local Rethug is running.

  87. 87.

    Corner Stone

    @Sab:

    Ed Gillespie would be ashamed of the ads the local Rethug is running.

    Apparently not since Eddie G is, in fact, shameless. The Confederacy Ads he is running are poll tested and approved so he knows what filth he’s producing in his race.

  88. 88.

    Honus

    @Corner Stone: a white kid from ohio radicalized by white supremacist trump supporters drove a car across a pedestrian mall and into a crowd of pedestrians killing a woman and seriously injuring 19 people on August 12. A real Trump special.

  89. 89.

    Miss Bianca

    @Steeplejack: I ‘m not sure “dark” is the word I’d use to describe those Philip Kerrs. I found the first one just really gross on all levels. Completely killed any desire I had to read any of the others, and as a history student, that was my period of study, so I know some dark. Too bad. I was really looking for more than a misogynistic Philip Marlowe knock-off. Oh, well.

  90. 90.

    Jean

    @Elizabelle: Love Kerr’s Berlin Noir series. Also, yes, to Ralph Northam. Volunteering for the campaign has been good. Great ground game this year.

  91. 91.

    TenguPhule

    @satby:

    There’s no good end to this, we’re just refusing to recognize that the second civil war is in progress.

    You can’t say that here, that’s considered crazy talk.

  92. 92.

    retr2327

    @Gin & Tonic: Here’s what I haven’t seen yet: yes, you can properly get a second passport under certain circumstances. But is that one with a different number? The reports on Manafort have stated that he had three with different numbers, which may — or may not — change things entirely. Anyone with knowledge care to weigh in?

  94. 94.

    Corner Stone

    @Citizen Scientist: I think I’m going to check them out. Look good enough to give a chance on, anyway.
    Although I have never been a fan of the “tough talking” variety.

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