Just cleaned out my fridge to make room for the Thanksgiving feast makings. The hens are the chief beneficiaries, being the wrong kind of poultry and the right kind of recipients of vegetable and fruit drawer flotsam.
I am making the following for Thanksgiving:
Turkey
Gravy
Mashed potatoes
Dressing/stuffing
Fried cabbage
Corn casserole
Candied sweet potatoes
Parker House rolls
My sister is bringing the obligatory green bean casserole, and I’ve farmed out a few other side dishes and desserts. While the cooking is underway, we’ll have appetizers out, primarily cheeses and fruit — including my husband’s excellent homemade ricotta. Plus there will be iced tea, sodas, beer, wine and homemade (hard) cider.
It’s supposed to be rainy here on Thanksgiving, which is a pity, because I’m always threatening to move the entire party to the beach. But I’m talked out of that yearly anyway, because that would be a pain in the ass.
No wingnut relatives will be in attendance this year — not due to any conflict or design, it just worked out that way. And you know what? I’m okay with that.
Open thread for all topics, including Thanksgiving plans, recipe swaps, etc.
matt
One of my shining family moments was a couple years back when I got my wingnut cousin disinvited from Thanksgiving for bragging about how he pwned his libtard relatives during the holidays on Facebook.
germy
I remember trying to explain Thanksgiving to a friend from the U.K.
She said “So you eat a big turkey dinner at the end of November, and then a month later you… eat another big turkey dinner?”
germy
germy
We’re not the only ones who suffer, apparently.
Betty Cracker
@germy: We’ve always had prime rib for Christmas dinner. Do most folks have turkey again?
rikyrah
The menu looks delicious.
rikyrah
@Betty Cracker:
We do have turkey again, and usually add either a ham or a beef/pork roast, depending upon the mood of the cook.
germy
@Betty Cracker: From what I’ve seen, turkey is usually on the menu, along with a variety of spiced hams and such.
My wife has two pots of pepperpot in the refrigerator, aging nicely in time for Thanksgiving. It takes a few days for all the ingredients to say “howdy” to each other.
Droppy
Last year I attended TG at my annoying Republican brother-in-law’s house. Informed that annoying Republican inlaws would be there, too. Then finally told that because brother-in-law was a recovering alcoholic, no spiritous beverages were allowed. Whined to my brother about this, and when I said the part about no alcohol to help me get through it all, he put his hand on my shoulder and said, “thoughts and prayers, man.”
PaulWartenberg
Even though I want to contribute to the Turkey Pagan Sacrifice Day meal, my family will only entrust me to go out and buy the Hawaiian dinner rolls.
It’s galling that my nephews do NOT LIKE SWEET POTATO w/MARSHMALLOW or MAC AND CHEESE. What happened to the Wartenberg gene pool?! /cries
TAGinMO
I need to know more about this fried cabbage. Like, the recipe.
I’ve only made one turkey recipe ever, for going on 10 years now: Alton Brown’s Good Eats Roast Turkey. Foolproof, tasty, and absurdly juicy. Just allow plenty of time to find the candied ginger the recipe calls for.
PaulWartenberg
@Droppy:
I hope you punched him.
schrodingers_cat
What is a corn casserole?
germy
Net neutrality disappears over the Thanksgiving weekend?
Will I have to pay extra now to have Balloon-juice bundled in with my sadly no and no more mister blogs?
StringOnAStick
To all the folks who answered my “kittens; one or two?” question a few months ago, I’d like to thank all the “two” voters; we’ve got 2 that are 9 weeks old and its obvious to me how much better they do with a little buddy, plus that solves the how to keep them entertained question. I haven’t had a kitten since I was 6 and my husband never has; we’ve had adult rescues for the last 25 years. it is hilarious watching my husband turn into a pile to easily manipulated goo by these two little girls.
Barbara
@Betty Cracker: We used to have turkey twice, but my in-laws always had ham and oysters for Christmas. I have cooked rack of lamb, goose, Cornish game hens, lasagne and just plain chicken for Christmas. This year I have been requested to provide caramelized Brussels sprouts for Thanksgiving, and will probably make another side dish (pearled onions in balsamic vinegar reduction), and some kind of vegan dessert. This year, finally, the vegan millennials among us are bringing their own main and side dishes. In years past I cooked all the vegan dishes and it was exhausting.
sheila in nc
Husband is all about cooking a heritage turkey this year. As I write, he is making the trek from Chapel Hill to a farm in Louisburg to pick it up. I just hope it isn’t still alive.
I’m at work today and tomorrow but the meal will be simple: turkey, stuffing (yes, we are transplanted Yankees), gravy, mashed potatoes, green beans with herbed butter, my daughter’s roasted sweet potatoes with rosemary, popovers, and homemade apple pie with scratch piecrust.
donnah
My menu looks like yours, Betty, adding homemade apple pie, pumpkin swirl cheesecake, and fresh baked loaves of bread instead of rolls. I despise sweet potatoes, so I’m going to try a butter-laden sweet potato souffle recipe from Paula Deen. It should satisfy the sugar-fat cravings of anyone at the table.
My mother is flying out to Las Vegas to share the holiday with my you ger brother and his wife. It’s the first time she won’t be here on Thanksgiving, so it will be weird.
TenguPhule
@schrodingers_cat:
An abomination against food.
No Drought No More
My mother spent twenty years complaining that no one ever touched her sweet potatoes, and then another twenty threatening to stop preparing them before she finally did.
Mnemosyne
This Thanksgiving, I made reservations at a local restaurant. It’s just going to be me and G, and I’m still on crutches (orthopedist appointment pending), so trying to cook anything was going to be too much of a pain in the knee.
Normally, we have Thanksgiving at my brother’s place, but his ex has the kids this year and he refuses to leave the couch because sportsball is on all day, so we’re doing our own thing instead.
Litlebritdifrnt
@germy: I’m doing the DH a steak for Thanksgiving seeing as its only the two of US. Christmas day I am doing Beef Wellington (a la Gordon Ramsey) for DH an Mum’s partner Norman and veggie Turkey for me and Mum along with all the trimmings. We have a lot of Christmas lunches and dinners out through the month as well so we will be all Turkey’d out come January.
TenguPhule
Smoked Brined Turkey is gonna be delicious on Thanksgiving.
rikyrah
Christian Activist Flip Benham: Roy Moore Dated Teens Because There’s Something About Their Purity [AUDIO] – https://t.co/xCEj9LG1al pic.twitter.com/YRtuVDspN7
— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) November 21, 2017
rikyrah
No Mac and Cheese, BC?
ruemara
@schrodingers_cat: It sounds very American regional cuisine.
I am or rather have made 2 pecan pies, which I hope are good, plus 2 jars of cranberry apple chutney. The man is making his scalloped potatoes. I plan to start our day with homemade pumpkin (delicata) pancakes and fresh raspberry compote, we watch the parade while he makes potatoes and I do the sous chef thing, clean up, pet the cats and head to my friends for stuffing our faces and probably playing Destiny 2. No green bean casseroles will be allowed on the premises. But I do hope we have turkey. Haven’t had a proper turkey or ham at these things in a few years.
@StringOnAStick: They entertain each other so much and yes, the guy into goo phenomenon is real. My roommate spends time singing to them.
Edited to also add: no to mac & cheese. I’m sorry, I find it so gross.
Spanky
@StringOnAStick: Yay!
To Repeat: Yay!
(Told ya so. :^)
Cacti
This year we’re keeping it simple: Turkey, dressing, mashers, gravy, green beans, corn, and rolls.
Desserts are cherry, sweet potato, and pumpkin pie.
Barbara
@sheila in nc: I love popovers! I think I will make a batch on Thanksgiving morning for breakfast and the drive to the dinner location.
TenguPhule
@Betty Cracker:
Ham, Turkey or Goose were the traditional main courses.
TenguPhule
@rikyrah:
/Facepalm
Just get this over with Alabama.
WaterGirl
Betty, I am interested in hearing more about corn casserole and fried cabbage.
proudgradofcatladyacademy
My family is going to the all you can eat casino buffet. It’s my dad’s favorite place and he doesn’t want anyone cooking. So, off we go to have all you can eat crab legs.
It’s about family and what my 80 year old dad wants, and with just my sister and I left… it’s okay.
My choice for thanksgiving? I would rather sit at home eating my homecooked meal and watching all 3 extended LOTOR movies. But people are horrified that I would want to be alone on Thanksgiving.
Fried cabbage- I made last night this coconut braised cabbage dish and put it over quinoa. It was freaking awesome. I stuck some of the cabbage in an egg scramble this morning. Super tasty.
Betty Cracker
@rikyrah: Farmed out to a guest, which I suspect I’ll regret.
TenguPhule
@PaulWartenberg:
Perhaps remove the marshmallows?
sheila in nc
@Barbara: Popovers are a big thing in my family. We can always eat too many if we are not careful.
Betty Cracker
@WaterGirl: Gotta run an errand, but back later w/ those recipes!
rikyrah
This American comfort food leads a double life – but only some of us know the secret. Do you?
BY KATHLEEN PURVIS
NOVEMBER 15, 2017 06:48 PM
It was one of those volunteer duties, the one where you agree to talk to your kid’s class about your job. I figured it would be easy: I’d ask the kids what their family eats at Thanksgiving and we’d do a middle-school version of Brillat-Savarin’s old saw, “Tell me what you eat and I’ll tell you who you are.”
I stood at the wipe-off board and wrote down what the kids called out: Turkey, dressing, pumpkin pie.
Then it happened: One child called out, “Macaroni & cheese.”
Across the room, every white child said a version of “Say what?” And every black child said a version of “Well, sure.”
The person who really got educated that day wasn’t the kids. I’d learned that America’s beloved comfort food leads a double life.
In black culture, for the most part, macaroni & cheese is the pinnacle, the highest culinary accolade. Who makes it, how it’s made and who’s allowed to bring it to a gathering involves negotiation, tradition and tacit understanding. It’s made from scratch and usually involves multiple kinds of cheese, secret touches (eggs and evaporated milk may be involved) and debates over toppings. It’s baked, and it’s a side dish, but it’s the side dish of honor, present at every important occasion.
Just rip the top off a blue box? It would be like ripping through your grandmother’s heart.
………………………………….
Mimi Beal, 52, sums up macaroni & cheese simply: “It’s EVERYTHING.”
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In her family, macaroni & cheese was “a sacred thing.” It wasn’t until she went to an integrated high school that she learned that her white friends did it differently.
“I never knew it’s a cultural thing,” she says. “I never knew that people ate macaroni & cheese for dinner, not as a side item, until I got into high school. The white kids were having it just for dinner. No, it’s a side dish!”
A side dish, but special.
“I associate mac & cheese with every holiday. Winter and summer. If there’s a barbecue, somebody has mac & cheese. Easter. July the Fourth. In black families, you associate macaroni & cheese with comfort, with your mother, your aunts. Not just anybody is allowed to make the mac & cheese. If you’re invited to someone’s house, especially for a holiday, you can’t just bring the mac & cheese, you know. You have to be assigned.
“You have to be a tested, tried-and-true, mac-&-cheese maker.”
………………..
“I hate to brag, but people really love my cooking,” she says. “I do everything – I’ll do any sides, the meat, I plan the menu, I am my mother’s assistant. We’re in charge of the meal.”
She’s the cook, with one exception: Her sister Lauren makes the macaroni & cheese. She’s the only one in the family who has perfected their mother’s version. Beal doesn’t even have the recipe.
Gravenstone
@germy:
I say yes, and past time.
kindness
No wingnuts will be there? Awwww. Won’t you miss the obligitory:
‘Please pass the gravy Uncle XXX, Oh and btw, are you a pedophile too now? Seems as if ALL republicans just love it and think it’s perfectly fine. Oh and if you even look crosseyed at any of the kids here I’m gettin’ out the 12 gauge. ‘
Immanentize
@schrodingers_cat: I got nothing re: corn casserole, but here is the pie recipe you asked about this morning:
Cranberry-Apple Crumble Pie
Pre-heat oven to 425
Pastry for 1, 9” Deep Dish Pie
FILLING:
4 C (4 or 5) Apples, peeled, cored and cut into thin slices
8 oz fresh Cranberries
½ C Light Brown Sugar
3 T Flour
¼ t Salt
2½ T Fresh Lemon Juice
½ Stick Sweet Butter (cut into ½ inch cubes)
CRUMBLE TOP:
¾ C Flour
¼ C Light Brown Sugar
½ t Cinnamon
¼ t Salt
½ Stick Sweet Butter (cut into ½ inch cubes)
½ C Pecans – course chopped
To Do:
1) Stir all filling ingredients except for the butter in a large bowl
2) Make the topping in another bowl – stir together flour, sugar, cinnamon and salt. Blend in the butter pieces with your fingers until the whole is lumpy. Stir in pecans. Set aside….
3) Put the pie crust into a floured deep dish pan and crimp the edges.
4) Put the filling into the crust, then dot with the butter pieces
5) Cover with foil and cook at 425 for 30 mins. Reduce temp. to 375
6) Sprinkle on topping, bake uncovered until top is brown and pie is bubbly (about 45-60 mins)
jeffreyw
I’m thinking about renaming these two, to Disdain and Suspicion.
Gravenstone
@schrodingers_cat: Suspect it might be what we in the midwest call scalloped corn. Corn mixed with creamed corn, butter, milk and usually thickened with crushed crackers, then baked until it sets.
WaterGirl
@rikyrah: Wow. After reading at the link, I bet that if I looked in the mirror right now I would have the “I just stepped in fresh puppy poop and it’s oozing between my toes” look. ugh.
schrodingers_cat
@jeffreyw: Is the orange kitteh, a new addition or Ginger all growed up. And is the one on the right, Toby? How is the rest of the gang. I remember Toby as being gray and white.
schrodingers_cat
@rikyrah: eeww.
schrodingers_cat
@Immanentize: Thanks. What kinda apples do you use? Granny Smiths?
FlyingToaster
We have Turkey on Thanksgiving, but never on XMas. The kids’ holiday varies wildly; we’ve had tenderloin, lasagna, a taco bar, crown roast, etc. Usually we settle on the mains for XMas over Thanksgiving so that nobody feels left out or rushed.
Herr Doktor has spent the day in prep, while I find things for him, wash things for him, and do various loads of laundry. They finally paved our street today (Hooray!) so we’re at the end of our 15-year “bumpety bumpety” saga.
WaterGirl
@Betty Cracker: Yay!
Gravenstone
@rikyrah: Sure. Why not? I mean, if they’re not pure, what’s the fun in being able to despoil them, amirite?
/wretch
Mnemosyne
@rikyrah:
It’s a little bit of a Southern white thing, too. When my nephew from Florida was here for Christmas, he asked to have macaroni and cheese as a side. His mother is from Kentucky, so that may also be where it comes from.
My family is Italian, so we had lasagna as a side instead. ??
Immanentize
@schrodingers_cat: Northern Spy if you can get them — but any tart, firm apple like a Granny Smith is OK in this pie. But really, if you can get a Spy apple, it is the best for pie.
Yutsano
@Betty Cracker: My family has done enchiladas for Christmas dinner and 8 hour spaghetti for Christmas Eve forever. Day after can be prime rib or steaks depending, but as there is a whole cow in the freezer the prime rib will most likely win.
WaterGirl
@jeffreyw: Gorgeous photo! Are they yours?
Immanentize
My vastly reduced menu for this year:
Turkey
Gravy
Pine Nut and Mushroom Dressing (not stuffing)
Syracuse Salt Potatoes
Green Beans (not the casserole version, although I love that too!)
Cranberry Jelly!
Pies — Pumpkin and Apple (very traditional this year)
Gravenstone
@Immanentize: Do you recommend sweeter apples for this pie, since the cranberries will already be supplying the tartness?
eta: n/m, I see you answered S_C above.
WaterGirl
It should be against the law to serve turkey that has been made in a roaster and not browned before serving.
WaterGirl
@Gravenstone: Imm will surely answer, but the apple cranberry pie I have had was made with granny smith and cranberries. So much better than regular apple, which is too sweet for me.
Mnemosyne
Also, if you have to deal with wingnut relatives at the dinner table, remember my patented method for dealing with their political rants: say “oh, I hadn’t heard that — can you explain?” in a mild and polite tone of voice, and only respond to whatever craziness they spout by saying things like “I don’t understand” or “I don’t know what that means.”
Fairly quickly, the wingnut will either get tangled up in his/her own explanations, realize how ridiculous s/he sounds, and change the subject, or they’ll go into an unhinged rant that you can later ask their spouse/child, “Has Grandpa been checked for dementia? You should probably talk to his doctor.”
Immanentize
@Gravenstone: I just don’t like sweet apples in pies. I feel like that is what vanilla ice cream is for if you like it sweeter. Now pecan pie, I mean the whole thing is syrup!
Gravenstone
@WaterGirl: Considering that’s the only way I;ve ever had it (cooked in a roaster), I guess I’ve missed out on some integral component of the dish.
MomSense
I have kids, plus a kid’s SO, and an as yet undetermined number of trump orphans.
Turkey
Corn bread stuffing with lots of fruits, some booze, chestnuts, and sausage.
Mashed potatoes
Gravy
Cranberries
butternut squash with maple syrup, walnuts, and cinnamon
peas
onions roasted with sage
apple sauce
Pies – pumpkin, apple, and pecan
Catherine D.
@proudgradofcatladyacademy: I get you on Thanksgiving alone. Friends keep trying to invite me, but I look forward to four days where I don’t have to talk to anyone (except the critters, of course) if I don’t want to.
rikyrah
@Immanentize:
The only dessert I can’t eat because it’s too sweet for me. Until I had pecan pie, I never thought anything was too sweet.
Mnemosyne
Okay, it looks like we need to clear up some nomenclature:
If it’s cooked inside the bird, it’s stuffing.
If you bake it in a pan, it’s dressing.
JMG
Grew up with a father who loved turkey, so we had it on Thanksgiving and Christmas. Only do it on Thanksgiving in my own home. Turkey, gravy, mashed potatoes, mashed turnip, oyster stuffing, non-oyster stuffing (one guest a vegetarian) my son is making a brussels sprouts with shallot and garlic dish, and my son’s girlfriend is making an apple pie and a chocolate pie. Appropriate wines recommended by my daughter who’s in the wine business in Bordeaux.
For Christmas, we’ve done rack of lamb, sirloin roast, and once while feeling particularly Dickensian, a roast goose. Never again! Too much work, including need to clean the oven the next day.
HRA
Two years ago I gave the last family holiday meal to one of my children. Why? My home is not large enough now to accommodate the family plus guests. Now we have 3 roasted turkeys for the day.
I always am asked to make the desserts. I am making Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup Cheesecake on a Brownie Crust, Cream Puff Cake and Caramel Apple Sheet Cake.
Immanentize
@Mnemosyne: Exactly!
schrodingers_cat
@rikyrah: Have you had any Indian desserts? Most are equal parts sugar and ghee.
Immanentize
@rikyrah: I actually have a chocolate pecan pie recipe that is more pecan and unsweetened chocolate, so it takes the cloy out of the pie. Still sweet, but not diabetes-inducing sweet….
ETA the word “recipe,” duh!
Immanentize
@JMG: Did the Bumpus’ dogs ever get your father’s turkey?
Mike in NC
Last weekend our neighbors deep fried a fresh 14-pound turkey and it was amazing. However, when we go out for Thanksgiving dinner I’ll have to decide between prime rib and lobster.
jeffreyw
@schrodingers_cat: That’s Ginger Boy, he has put on some weight. The tux is Ollie, a rescue that was abandoned at the neighbor’s house. She looked like she would have kept him except for objections from the spouse. Toby is still mad at Homer, Homer ambushes Bea as a part of his general assholiness. Bea prefers to be left alone and tells this to Homer, everyday. Bitsy is my baby. She bites me when I pet her. Tough love. The cats leave Gabe bewildered, but game. Katie is still wary but will take a treat if I move slowly enough when offering.
Mary G
I go to a friend’s house and she sends me home with leftovers, so I have it easy. One thing we do every Thanksgiving is predict various things, like who will win the World Series and Super Bowl in the next year and the tie-breaking question this year was “What will Trump’s average approval rating on Real Clear Politics be?”
I of course said 27% and am deeply disappointed in the 11% of stupid people.
jeffreyw
@WaterGirl: They live in the same house. I’ll just leave it at that.
ruemara
@rikyrah: Is this what I have to look forward to? I’ve never actually had pecan pie, so I’m ascared. But the roommate asked for it.
JCJ
@rikyrah:
I will have to look up the video from a year or two ago when one of those Fox News cretins asked the African-American lady if she was having Kool Aid for Thanksgiving or some holiday. Her response was excellent.
MomSense
@Immanentize:
I never use syrup in mine! Brown sugar and extra pecans make it delicious.
Gravenstone
@rikyrah: Someone posted a recipe for schadenfreude pie (actual name) a few years ago. It’s in the same family as pecan (chess pies), but is sweeter by an order of magnitude if not more. Way, way too much for me to handle even a small slice.
Immanentize
@MomSense: Hmmm, I guess — but I think I lived in the South too many years to allow such a thing without Karo to be called pecan pie….
ruemara
Ok, I think this pie can only be served with straight coffee or tea. I was looking at the final result and it seemed like I had just candied the pecans in a crust. Maybe someone else will want the other pie. Urge to throw it out rising.
geg6
No Trumpsters at our holiday table, thank FSM. John and I are going to my sister and BIL’s and we’ll be joined by my younger sister and BIL, my younger niece, a good friend and his wife and another good friend and her boyfriend. All anti-Trump.
I am making my much-coveted roasted carrots with olive oil, butter, honey and sea salt and lemon/pepper/Parmesan asparagus. I’ll be heading over there early to roast my veggies there and make the lemon/pepper/Parmesan sauce. They don’t travel well, even though my sister only lives about 15-20 minutes away.
Barbara
@rikyrah: So now they are just channeling Roman Polanski – EVERYONE wants to fuck young girls. Next thing you know they will be citing Mayan ritual sacrifice of young girls as a justification.
jeffreyw
@Mnemosyne: Hmm… close! All stuffings are dressings, not all dressings are stuffings.
JCJ
@Immanentize:
Ever have maple sugar pie? I had it once in Quebec. One small bite was all it took for my pancreas to wave a white flag.
schrodingers_cat
@jeffreyw: You need a YouTube channel like Shiro and gang for your gang. Awesome kittehs are awesome.
schrodingers_cat
@ruemara: My friend makes her pecan pie with lots of dark chocolate. It is to die for.
ETA: A little goes a long way though. It is rich.
geg6
@Betty Cracker:
We usually have prime rib or chateaubriand. My paternal grandparents were from England, so our Christmas tradition has always been beef and Yorkshire pudding.
Immanentize
@JCJ: Hah! No, I have not, but you think I would have because my Grandfather (a Mainer) used to tap his own maple trees and make maple syrup and sugar candy — but never a pie!
schrodingers_cat
@Immanentize: Where in Maine, if you don’t mind my asking?
Robin Gittelman
@Immanentize: Sounds wonderful! and not too sweet. Love cranberries
rikyrah
@schrodingers_cat:
I have, and they are sweet, but most of the ones I’ve had were in small pieces, so it was ok. But, definitely, no more than two.
germy
Can anyone recommend a good blu-ray dvd player? I mean something portable, with its own screen (and preferably headphone jack)
I have a small DVD collection that I watch on my macbook, but apple being what it is, doesn’t recognize Blu-rays, which seem to be replacing DVDs.
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
You can re-use the pecans for something else unless they’re burned, so take those off before you throw it out. Candied pecans are awesome in salads.
rikyrah
@ruemara:
I don’t understand how anyone makes it through a nice sized slice, just a regular slice. And, I’m someone who absolutely loves sweets.
My favorite bakery make cakes that are literally diabetes on a plate. The slices are so big that I can get a good three days of desserts from it.
I’d like to hear from folks that eat pecan pie. Is there a method? Do you eat it with something else?
People who love it, really do. and, if your friend is looking forward to it, bake away :)
I'll be Frank
@Immanentize: Not the crunchy part.
Gravenstone
@ruemara: That’s exactly how it should look, a crust of candied (and delicious) pecans sitting on a very sweet custard.
trollhattan
We’ll be visiting one of the (relatively) sane in-law branches in Napa, my first trip there since the fires. We may well pass through one of the fire zones going, due to the Interstate usually being totally borked on T-day. Used to be a pretty drive, no idea what we’re in for.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@rikyrah: Angie Thomas’s THE HATE U GIVE is from the point of view of a black teenaged girl who has a white boyfriend. Eventually all her friends and siblings are quizzing this guy to see if he’s acceptable and one of the questions they ask is about mac and cheese. Is it a main dish or a side dish? He looks from person to person trying to guess the answer and comes down wrong on main dish. They all groan. It’s an entertaining scene in what’s a pretty serious book.
Steeplejack
@Litlebritdifrnt:
What is veggie turkey?
ruemara
@Gravenstone: Slender slices for all!
hedgehog the occasional commenter
Good afternoon jackals!
Mr. h and I are having TDay with friends in Colorado Springs (not RWNJs). On the menu is turkey, sweet potato (not candied), green salad, Watergate salad (pistachio pudding, Cool-Whip, marshmellows and crushed pineapple-a Midwest thing, apparently; mr. h introduced me to it at my first TDay with his family), cranberry sauce (by me–I buy the whole cranberries and follow the directions on the package for making the sauce; I’ve learned to like whole berries). pumpkin roll, wine/beer/nonalcoholic drinks. The next day we’ll go over to another friends’ place in the Springs for The Day After–more turkey/sides/booze or not as you please.
Christmas will be just the two of us, for the first time since we’ve been married; all of our parents are gone (mr. h’s mom passed in October). Mixed emotions–I will miss the family and the travel, at the same time I won’t miss the family and the travel :) Likely we’ll do a Honeybaked ham and sides to be determined.
trollhattan
@rikyrah:
My SIL makes the only pecan pie I like and drizzles it with orange sauce, which has just enough citrus tartness to counterbalance the very sweet pie. Strong coffee is my beverage of choice to accompany it, tea probably works too.
WaterGirl
@Gravenstone: does your roaster have a browning function?
Cheryl from Maryland
Just me, my spousal unit and his mother. We do most of the work at our house and then go to her apartment to roast the turkey.
Escarole salad with herbs, apples and pomegranate avrils
Heritage bronze turkey (we’ve been getting them for about four years now and love them. They are tastier, cook faster, and the thigh/drumstick meat is perfect with pomegranate avrils, mayo, and black pepper served over greens for leftovers.
Gravy
Mashed potatoes
Rye and Pumpernickel dressing with dill and other herbs
Broccoli and leek casserole
Cranberry orange relish
Carrots in tahini sauce
Maple walnut pie (think pecan pie with walnuts and maple syrup) with a scratch made crust
Gravenstone
@rikyrah:
I recommend a large glass of ice cold milk. Others swear by coffee.
blackcatsrule
@rikyrah: I’m not a big fan of sweet things but pecan pie is my favorite dessert. Pecans are my favorite nut so it makes sense I guess. But I only like the ones that are almost all nuts, very little of the custard filling. The pie crust should be buttery but barely sweet. I love the texture of the caramelized pecans against that flaky crust. As far as my method…a small slice, unsweetened whipped cream (homemade only!) and a double shot of a smoky Scotch as contrast :)
Gravenstone
@Steeplejack: A lie.
WaterGirl
@jeffreyw: the two together put on quite show!
Gravenstone
@WaterGirl: My grandmother, then mother were the ones who did the roasting (classic Nesco roasters). I don’t know whether there was a roasting/browning element. I’ve never attempted a whole turkey of my own, having no need for that much meat at one time.
WaterGirl
@MomSense: oooh. i will have to try that! how much brown sugar?
Brachiator
There’s a well received little film called “Lady Bird” currently in the theaters. For the holidays, they provided this little contribution: Thanksgiving Recipes
from Greta and the Cast of ‘Lady Bird’
Enjoy.
Barbara
@trollhattan: I have never liked pecan pie because of its one-note sweetness. It’s like eating brown sugar from the tin. Perhaps in colonial days they made it with molasses or something else that had more flavor notes, I don’t know. After reading this thread, I think I am going to make gingerbread, good and peppery, with or without whipped cream. If I get my act together I will also make some baked apples.
TenguPhule
@Steeplejack: Tofu with delusions of grandeur.
eclare
@ruemara: I love it, and I don’t have a big sweet tooth. Might have to do with what kind of corn syrup you’re using.
WaterGirl
@jeffreyw: That would be correct, sir!
germy
https://www.thecut.com/2017/11/trump-jokes-about-reversing-obamas-turkey-pardons.html
MomSense
@WaterGirl:
I’ll have to check when I get home. I make mine on the less sweet side.
@blackcatsrule:
Yes! Extra nuts so it’s not all custard with a few nuts on the top. I think it goes best with bourbon!
@Immanentize:
March 25, 2018 is Maine Maple Sunday The sugarhouses are open to the public. It’s a lot of fun.
Barbara
All this talk of pecan pie is alienating my sweet tooth. Here is my absolutely favorite Thanksgiving recipe, which I make without the optional cream:
Balsamic Pearl Onions
2 tablespoons unsalted butter
30 ounces white pearl onions and red pearl onions, peeled
Kosher salt
Pinch ancho chile powder
1/4 teaspoon unsweetened cocoa powder
1/2 to 3/4 cup balsamic vinegar
1/2 cup heavy cream (optional)
DIRECTIONS
Melt the butter in a medium, heavy-bottomed saucepan over medium heat. Add the onions and stir to coat. Cook for 10 minutes, or until onions have softened slightly. Add the salt to taste and the chili powder, cocoa powder and balsamic vinegar, stirring to combine. Cover, reduce heat to the lowest possible setting and cook for 2 to 3 hours, stirring occasionally.
Use a slotted spoon to transfer the onions to a container to cool. Reserve the reduced balsamic vinegar in a separate container. At this point, the onions and balsamic reduction may be covered tightly and stored in the refrigerator for up to 2 days. To serve, in a small saucepan on a medium-low setting, heat the reserved balsamic vinegar with the heavy cream, if desired. Add the onions and stir until warmed through. Adjust seasonings to taste and serve in a warmed, lidded dish.
TenguPhule
@germy: I’m not laughing because that’s not funny.
blackcatsrule
@MomSense: Bourbon works too! We Mainers know how to stay warm in the winter (wintah!)
germy
@TenguPhule: I’m not laughing because my goose is cooked.
SiubhanDuinne
@Barbara:
You make that sound like a bad thing.
MomSense
@blackcatsrule:
Ayuh!
germy
WaterGirl
@rikyrah: cold beer for bitter with the sweet pie.
glory b
@rikyrah: That’s the description of a hebephile.
trollhattan
@Brachiator:
See this film!
That is all.
EriktheRed
In my house we’re having a big pre-made lasagna that we just have to put in the oven and two big pies which just need to be defrosted.
I still love a nice big turkey dinner, but the work involved has been come less worth it over the years…especially when it’s just 4 of us anyway.
Jeffro
If y’all need something entertaining to watch later this weekend, Saturday’s “homemade rocket launch (builder/pilot strapped in!) to prove. that. the. Earth. is. flat” should fit the bill nicely!
Duane
Donna fucking Brazeale is going on Hanrattity’s show today. Dead woman walking.
Gravenstone
@Jeffro: Wonder if his life insurance pays in cases of “acts of gross stupidity”?
Gelfling 545
@germy: I suspect it involves second amendment rights.
WaterGirl
@MomSense: less sweet side sounds perfect!
scav
Not sure how much we’re going to bother with TDay here, honestly — there aren’t even any local unattached orphans — although there definitely is a bird thawing well in time. We’ve definitely been enjoying Delicata squash recently though. Roast it, mash the innards and add some apple juice, salt, pepper and nutmeg — little bit of thyme in the last one. Topped it with a little butter and popped it back in the oven to keep warm until needed. Plus German Butterball potatoes last night! So we may have just spread all the usual TDay foodstuffs out over the entire week rather than a single coma-event.
WaterGirl
@germy: if single Dem votes for that cretin, i will scream.
TenguPhule
@germy: Saw that, added his name to the tumbrel list.
62 million more to go.
MoxieM
Christmas is goose, red cabbage, and potatoes … or roast beef, Yorkshire pudding & green beans. Salad either way. Gherkins and olives &. Depends on which side of the family I’m feeling. Sherry of G & Ts, plenty of ’em. Stollen & coffee in the AM.
Thanksgiving (if I were cooking) would be turkey & stuffing (not dressing–I thought it was a Mason-Dixon distinction, although an antiquated culinary one too); gravy (best part), mashed potatoes, salad, something green (my departed mother always insisted on creamed celery & onions–yech), both kinds of cranberry to keep the squabbles down. Gherkins, olives, nuts. Apple pie, pumpkin pie, mince pie, with cheddar cheese, naturally! Wines, coffee.
Miss Bianca
@StringOnAStick: What could possibly be more fun than a kitten? Why, TWO kittens, of course!
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@EriktheRed: That sounds wonderful.
Gelfling 545
@rikyrah: When I was a kid it was ham on Christmas eve and turkey Christmas day because turkey was cheap. Fortunately we lived upstairs of my grandparents so the cooking got shared out. Now its ham at my sister’s and roast beast at my daughter’s. I bring sides including my popular chestnut and sausage corn bread dressing.
trollhattan
@Jeffro:
Here’s my “Bon voyage” to Mr. Hughes and further hopes that his rocket works beyond his most ambitious scenario and just, keeps, going.
“Flat enuf for ya?”
germy
@Duane:
She wants to sell her book!
Joke’s on her. His audience can’t read.
Miss Bianca
@rikyrah: Wow, I just got edumacated.
I mean, I *love* mac and cheese…but admit that I’m white enough to usually just doctor a box of blue-top with only some extra cheese and bacon.
Mmm, bacon…
trollhattan
We are a stupid, stupid nation.
Shana
@HRA: America’s Test Kitchen has a lemon cheesecake with lemon curd on top instead of the sweetened sour cream you sometimes get. Truly amazing and a less sweet thing to end the meal with, although it is still cheesecake.
Steeplejack
I got home a while ago after an unexpected burst of productivity. Had lunch with Bro’ Man at Huong Viet (Eden Center, Falls Church) and discovered that he is having Thanksgiving at the house in Rehoboth Beach. They’re leaving at the crack of dawn tomorrow for the long weekend. I’m invited for whatever part of that I want, but I don’t know if I want to go. Been in a bit of a diminuendo lately, as SCTV detective Vic Arpeggio would say.
After lunch (spring rolls, shrimp toast, grilled beef with lemongrass) I felt like going home and going down for a siesta, but, against the possibility that I will be holing up here in my modest rooms in Threadkill Lane, I went to the grocery to do an “odds and ends” shop and ended up blowing $100 on a combination of staples, comfort foods and random items that caught my eye. The store was pleasantly uncrowded. Then, figuring that I might as well get everything over with while I was clean-shaven and still wearing long pants, I went to Total Wine to pick up some cheap bubbly (Spanish cava, Conde de Caralt). Got home, lugged everything upstairs and got it stowed. Now relaxing with a margarita and getting caught up on the threads here. Still slightly amazed that I did all that. I’ve really been out of it the last week.
I might drive down to Rehoboth Thursday morning for T-Day dinner and come back Friday morning. It’s about 135 miles, three hours mostly through bucolic Delmarva, which I always find very relaxing. If I can dynamite myself out the door and get going I know I’ll like it. But that’s a big if.
This Trump regime is very tiring. I used to feel that politics was “take it or leave it.” If I got interested in an issue, fine, but if not I could carry on my private life and relax in the (pretend) knowledge that somewhere in the background adults were taking care of things. Now I know they aren’t adults and they aren’t taking care of anything. “Politics” intrudes into my daily life whether I want it to or not. And every day it’s a new outrage. Last night Rachel Maddow mentioned that they’re going to kill net neutrality, which will be a disaster, and also that they’re apparently trying to stealth-privatize the Veterans Administration. And that was just an average Monday. Jesus.
But. There are things that we can do—even if we feel that we’re being forced into doing them, LOL—and I’m looking to get back into the fight next week. I’ve got a call in to a local literacy-action group, and I’m in the process of figuring out which voting-rights group to volunteer with.
I “collect” those sayings that churches put on their notice boards, and today I saw one that said:
That struck me. Even with all the bullshit going on, I have a lot to be thankful for, and there is a lot that I could give, no matter how I feel on the inside. Chop wood, carry water, as the saying goes.
My all-time favorite church notice:
Amen to that. We can’t just fight against the evil; we have to fight for the things we love.
Happy Thanksgiving to all Juicers!
glory b
@Mnemosyne: Once again, I will suggest getting adopted into an African American family if you can.
There is about a 95% chance there will be no wingnuts at your family gatherings.
Not to say no one has problems, but that won’t be one of them. Can’t link to it from work, but I highly recommend the deadspin.com Caucasian Guide to Black Christmas.
Shana
@germy: Good god, the man can’t do anything without being a dick can he?
I know, SATSQ, no.
JCJ
@trollhattan:
Well, they do all look alike, ya know//
NorthLeft12
Here is some news that comes as no surprise to almost anyone;
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/21/trade-in-dead-sea-scrolls-awash-with-suspected-forgeries-experts-warn
And even less surprising is that the primary suckers for this obvious scam were rich evangelicals. I would say the next most obvious targets would be middle class and working class evangelicals, but fortunately for them they did not have enough money for this particular high class rip off.
Death Panel Truck
My wife and I will be postponing Thanksgiving dinner until at least Friday, and possibly Saturday. My older brother had a stroke on Sunday morning, and he’s in the hospital in Richland, Washington, across the river from us in Pasco. He is alert and talking, and has use of all of his limbs, although he drags his left foot a little when he walks. He is the most stubborn person I have ever known in my life. He is arguing with the doctors, and saying he will go home against medical advice. We’re trying to get him to come stay with us for a while, but he wants to go home to his cat. Whadda gonna do? You can’t tell him anything.
I hope everyone here has a great Thanksgiving.
satby
@MomSense: try using 1/2 maple syrup… Amazeballs.
Gravenstone
@trollhattan: He doesn’t even share a first name. LaVar vs. LeVar. MAGAts are indeed morons.
eclare
Picking up Thanksgiving dinner to go from a local, Southern, meat and 3 place for my parents and me. I will be getting the turkey and dressing, mashed potatoes, and turnip greens. I need to get their order to call in on Thanksgiving day. Keeping it low key because both of them have been in poor health lately, which is depressing. But on a positive note, no RWNJ’s, which I would have had to endure had they felt up to getting together with other relatives. Oddly, the older relatives are less nutty than the ones around age 50.
Miss Bianca
@Death Panel Truck: oh, so sorry to hear it! Best of luck dealing!
eclare
@Death Panel Truck: Best wishes for your brother! I would not check myself out AMA, but I understand the sentiment. Being in a hospital must be miserable on holidays (not to mention the cat!).
germy
trollhattan
@Gravenstone:
The added irony is going after a true mensch like Burton. Crikey, that’s just wrong! (Mr. Ball is my least favorite sports dad since Marv Marinovich, but Trump has forced me to have his back, damn him.)
satby
@Death Panel Truck: swift recovery to your brother and Happy Thanksgiving to you all.
trollhattan
@Death Panel Truck:
Yikes, I hope y’all are able to keep things afloat. Sounds like a “holiday to remember” is about to happen.
hedgehog the occasional commenter
@Death Panel Truck: So sorry to hear that.
Death Panel Truck
@Miss Bianca: @eclare: Thanks. I wouldn’t want to be in the hospital either, but if we manage to get him to stay a few more days, we can at least spend Thanksgiving Day with him there. I can watch the Lions lose at the hospital as well as I can anywhere else.
randy khan
@germy:
No, not until December or January. This is just an announcement of what they’ll vote on at the December meeting. But there won’t be any changes, so this is what they’ll do.
Mnemosyne
@glory b:
I am a very, very lucky white person, because my in-laws are all solid Trump-hating Democrats (though they mostly live in Illinois) and my family had a big split last summer with the largest number of us voting for Hillary, including my ex-cop cousin who had never voted for a Democrat before. And, of course, my darling husband of 11 years would have crawled over broken glass to vote for Hillary.
Plus I live in the very deepest blue part of Southern California where even old rich white dudes vocally hate Trump and say so in public, repeatedly.
So I am in a tiny bubble of White People Who Are Not Stupid Assholes and I’m so happy to be here. ?
proudgradofcatladyacademy
@Catherine D.:
yes, for some reason Thanksgiving is the one holiday people REALLY can’t stand to see someone be alone. I blame holiday movies. As it is, I will have to grit my teeth listening to my dad rant about those overpaid NFL players who can’t honor the National Anthem his buddies died for in Nam. For the first time in 70 years he won’t be listening/watching the Detroit Lions. i have learned it’s best not say, “really, I thought what your buddies died for was the right for people to protest peacefully as it is written in the Constitution?” It just makes more peaceful holidays all around.
Mnemosyne
Okay, to get ahead of something in the news:
There’s a big story about the Giant Evil Corporation that just broke. I do not know anything other than what’s in the news. We’re all kind of in shock and waiting to see what shoes are about to drop.
Death Panel Truck
@satby: @trollhattan: @hedgehog the occasional commenter: Thanks, everyone. I’ll pass along your best wishes to him. He used to be a wingnut, but I managed to convert him during the waning days of the Bush administration, so he’s good company for Thanksgiving dinner.
proudgradofcatladyacademy
@Death Panel Truck:
Best wishes for you and your family!
Betty Cracker
@WaterGirl & @TAGinMO:
Okay, here’s a link to the corn casserole recipe, which is made with Jiffy cornbread mix.The Jiffy people call it “spoon bread,” which I did not realize until this minute.
Fried cabbage:
INGREDIENTS:
1 head of cabbage, wedged and chopped
1 onion, chopped
4-5 slices of bacon, chopped
1 tsp. sugar
Salt & pepper
3 tbsp. water
Cider vinegar
INSTRUCTIONS:
Fry bacon in a Dutch oven. Remove and set aside when crispy. Throw in onion and cook until tender. Add cabbage, water, sugar and salt and pepper to taste. Stir occasionally until cabbage is wilted and soft, about 10-15 minutes. Add bacon back in and stir. Sprinkle with a little cider vinegar and serve.
schrodingers_cat
@Mnemosyne: I don’t think we are in a bubble, although that’s how the media likes to portray it. We are just ahead of the curve. The people at my post office applauded when I had gone there to get my passport. The postal clerk, said, we have new Americans here and everyone there clapped. It was a bit embarrassing but welcoming as well. One old white woman, her hair all white, said that T doesn’t speak for all and how she was glad that we were here.
eclare
@Death Panel Truck: Good luck!
Mnemosyne
@Death Panel Truck:
FWIW, my spouse used to work for a healthcare place (home infusion) and the #1 time for people to get released from the hospital was Thanksgiving. They almost always checked back in the next day, but doctors and nurses were well aware that people wanted to spend that day at home. So it may be worth talking to his doctor and seeing if he can get a day pass, essentially.
Sloane Ranger
Just out of curiosity, maybe I missed it, but I don’t see anyone having Roast Potatoes. They would the classic accompaniment to a roast meat in the UK.
Are they not an American thing?
schrodingers_cat
@Betty Cracker: This is similar to the recipe I make. Instead of bacon I season the oil with green chilies, mustard seeds and cumin seeds and some hing. Instead of cider vinegar, the acidity is provided by lemon or lime juice. Garnish is cilantro and grated fresh coconut.
eclare
@Sloane Ranger: I love roasted potatoes and fix them all the time, but I have never seen them at Thanksgiving. And if I were hosting Thanksgiving I would never think to serve them. Here it’s all mashed (for the gravy) or some sort of sweet potato dish.
Mnemosyne
@Sloane Ranger:
Mashed potatoes are more common for Thanksgiving.
Ask me about the time my now ex-sister-in-law didn’t buy potatoes because she decided not to make them, and I got elected to be the one to go to the grocery store on Thanksgiving day and buy some because It’s not Thanksgiving without mashed potatoes! ?
PaulWartenberg
@TenguPhule:
THE MARSHMALLOWS ARE THE CEREMONY. How dare you.
ruemara
@Mnemosyne: I just saw it. I have to admit, I’m being a bit selfish when I say this, but, does this mean there’s finally room for a few more women, and women of color/men of color at Pixar and other companies? Maybe, just fucking maybe a qualified candidate with a couple of decades of work experience could get hired at even entry level work, because we won’t be trying to back fellow employees into a corner? And, just in case people didn’t notice, we have fucking stories too?
Sorry, but raisins in the sun turn a bit bitter.
@Sloane Ranger: Some do, some don’t. Traditional stuff tends to look a lot like candied everything plus some giant pieces of meat.
CarolPW
@Death Panel Truck: If he is in Kadlec I can see it from my house, and am sending many good wishes in that direction. Can you bring his cat to your house while he is recovering?
Also, if it is Kadlec they let pets visit and that might keep him there until he is ready to discharge. Apparently you need to get the pet approved by the security guys but it didn’t sound like a very big deal, mostly to make sure the person bringing them for a visit isn’t going to just leave them there for the patient (or nurses) to care for.
Steve in the ATL
@rikyrah: I ate at a hipster rust belt restaurant last week (in St. Louis’ Central West End) and the house specialty was loaded mac and cheese. That night’s version featured Gruyere, asparagus,and shaved brussels sprouts. It was magnifique.
Death Panel Truck
@Mnemosyne: It’d be nice to take him home with us to Pasco for dinner Thursday although I’m worried we might not be able to get him to go back to the hospital! He lives alone in a small town about 35 miles west of here, with his beautiful golden-eyed cat Missy. He’s worried about her more than he is about himself. She’s being well cared for by a friend of his. The doctors have done a battery of tests, and he’s worried about how he’s going to pay for his hospital stay. He’s practically indigent, so maybe Medicaid can help him.
Mnemosyne
@ruemara:
We’re slightly less bad down here in the Southland but, yeah, I’ve always heard that Pixar in particular is a major boys’ club and a very toxic place to be a woman artist or artist of color. They’ve been trying to improve — one thing is that they’ve switched over to blind applications so the recruiters don’t know the gender or race of the artist whose work they’re evaluating — but it’s a slow process that obviously isn’t moving fast enough.
Betty Cracker
@schrodingers_cat: That sounds tasty!
Original Lee
This year, it’s just my nuclear family at home. We’re having ham, mashed potatoes, sweet potato casserole, green beans with bacon, sourdough biscuits, green salad, persimmon compote, and four desserts: apple pie, French silk pie, pumpkin cheesecake, and pecan pie. We normally have turkey, because it’s traditional and all, but my children have announced they don’t want turkey any more – almost every year they have it, the host cooks it dry, and they don’t trust us to do it right.
Christmas can be almost anything when we have it at home. We’ve had salmon, goose, duck, game hen, rabbit, rack of lamb, filet mignon, ham, and turkey. We are going to my in-laws’ house for Christmas this year, though, so I have no idea what the main dish will be. Fingers crossed it’s not turkey!
Sloane Ranger
@eclare: @Mnemosyne: @ruemara:
Thanks for slacking my curiosity people. Mashed potatoes would certainly please my brother as they’re his favourite!
schrodingers_cat
@Betty Cracker: Its great with fish tacos too, as a part of an Indian meal or as a side to roast chicken.
eclare
@Sloane Ranger: I make mine with both sour cream and cream cheese, they are sinful.
Death Panel Truck
@CarolPW: Yep, he’s in Kadlec. If I had a stroke, I’d rather be there than any other hospital in the Tri-Cities. I didn’t know about their pet policy. We can’t take her in because we have two rambunctious cocker spaniels who don’t like cats, and I’d worry about what might happen. His friend in Prosser is taking care of Missy, so she should be all right.
Mnemosyne
@Death Panel Truck:
I just Googled it and Washington is a Medicaid expansion state, so they should be able to enroll him on the spot if they haven’t already. See if the hospital has a healthcare advocate you can talk to.
trollhattan
@Steve in the ATL:
Since they seem to be showing up everywhere I’ve decided brussels sprouts are the new kale. I’m objectively pro this change, since I like the first and loathe the latter. TBH I didn’t like sprouts as a kid and only learned how good they can be having them roasted and seasoned at a top-notch Italian place.
trollhattan
@eclare:
Some wasabi can make them fun, too.
Death Panel Truck
@Mnemosyne: Thanks. Will do.
The Moar You Know
@Sloane Ranger: Pretty sure that’s what we call baked potatoes here and while popular, it’s not really a Thanksgiving dish. We like our Thanksgiving food mushy, like for babies.
But hey, steak dinner? I will demand a baked potato and that combo is as good as it gets.
Miss Bianca
@The Moar You Know: No, not the same thing as baked potatoes, exactly – the roast potatoes we always did in my family were peeled, chopped, and roasted in the same pan as the meat.
@Sloane Ranger: Maybe these are an English thing? My mom was definitely influenced by All Things English in her cooking. I mean, she made us steak and kidney pie, ffs. Not well, exactly, because her pie crusts were terrible, but it did give me a taste for organ meats I might never have acquired otherwise.
KS in MA
@TenguPhule: Just bake ’em in their skins!
Barbara
@Sloane Ranger: I strongly prefer roast potatoes with any kind of meat or poultry but I am not in charge of the potatoes, and the tradition is to make mashed potatoes for Thanksgiving. When I roast any kind of meat, I nestle the potatoes in the pan drippings and juices and cook for around 20 minutes, depending on size of potatoes and cooking temperature.
Davebo
I’m doing a Leg of Lamb.
Topping it off with Slow Cooker Stuffing, Green Bean and Mushroom Medley
Roasted Butternut Squash and Glazed Carrots with Brown Sugar.
Grilling some venison for a starter munchie and she’s handling desert.
Sloane Ranger
@The Moar You Know: Two nations separated by a common tongue!
In the UK a Baked Potato (also called a Jacket Potato) is cooked in the oven on a low heat for a long time with it’s skin still on.
A Roast Potato is peeled and then lightly parboiled before going into the oven on a medium heat in a tin with hot oil, fat or the juices from the meat.
@Miss Bianca: Love steak and kidney pie. We also do it as a pudding with suet. We have a local delicacy called Ock and Dough which consists of A heart, pastry and onions. My mother’s was out of this world!
Barbara
@Sloane Ranger: If you use baby potatoes you shouldn’t have to peel them. I hate peeling potatoes.
Miss Bianca
@Sloane Ranger: mmm, suet…I had an English boyfriend once upon a time, who was incredibly shocked when he couldn’t find suet in the supermarket. “How do you make pud?” was his plaintive cry. Now that animal fats are starting to make a comeback from Demonized Status, maybe folk over here will realize that suet ain’t just for birds anymore!
Ock and Dough, eh? Wow. Hearts sound like they would be tough -do they require any special prep?
Sloane Ranger
@Barbara: Point conceded.
MomSense
@WaterGirl:
I cup brown sugar and 1/4 cup granulated white sugar but Ibprobably use a bit more than an 1/8 of a cup.
Sloane Ranger
@Miss Bianca: Not really providing you get it from a butcher who knows what they’re doing and removes the tubes, fat and fibrous tissue for you. It’s actually quite tender but it does need a long cooking time.
WaterGirl
@Betty Cracker: Belatedly getting back to the thread. thank you!!!
WaterGirl
@MomSense: thank you! I will try that for my next one. I have great pecans from this year’s crop grown by the biggest/best pecan grower in Illinois. They mechanically break the shell enough that you can get the perfect pecan halves from the shell. They are so good.
TenguPhule
@Sloane Ranger: Mashed only. Its an American thing.
Miss Bianca
@Betty Cracker: oh, this sounds sooo good!
@schrodingers_cat: so does yours!
J R in WV
@rikyrah:
I make my pecan pie with maple syrup, not corn syrup. Helps it be not quite so sweet, adds other flavors to the pie.
Also, serving pecan pie with vanilla ice cream cuts the richness of the pie quite a bit. You might not believe it, but it’s true. I luv me some pecan maple pie with vanilla ice cream. Ordinary whipped cream works too.