This book appears to paint Trump as he actually is in some respects – not something often seen by people in his circle https://t.co/KsCdxR2lGI
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) December 2, 2017
It worked when they needed to shut down the Watergate investigations, it worked when they wanted to separate Reagan from “Iran-contra”, and now they’re setting up for the hat trick! Corey Lewandowski has a book (and a defense) to sell:
Elton John blares so loudly on Donald Trump’s campaign plane that staffers can’t hear themselves think. Press secretary Hope Hicks uses a steamer to press Trump’s pants — while he is still wearing them. Trump screams at his top aides, who are subjected to expletive-filled tirades in which they get their “face ripped off.”
And Trump’s appetite seems to know no bounds when it comes to McDonald’s, with a dinner order consisting of “two Big Macs, two Fillet-O-Fish, and a chocolate malted.”
The scenes are among the most surreal passages in a forthcoming book chronicling Trump’s path to the presidency co-written by Corey Lewandowski, who was fired as Trump’s campaign manager, and David Bossie, another top aide. The book, “Let Trump Be Trump,” paints a portrait of a campaign with an untested candidate and staff rocketing from crisis to crisis, in which Lewandowski and a cast of mostly neophyte political aides learn on the fly and ultimately accept Trump’s propensity to go angrily off message…
a quote from one of the "Get Me Roger Stone" directors. his takeaway from it is… not what mine would be pic.twitter.com/3BBEz7nxWd
— Owen Ellickson (@onlxn) December 2, 2017
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Just coincidentally, look what Russiagate news dropped this morning!
Well, that's quite a thing for a Trump official to have said in an email. https://t.co/CHqYHf2b9b pic.twitter.com/Cq7YvUWSJ2
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) December 2, 2017
Trump back then: "I fired him because of what he said to Mike Pence. Very simple." https://t.co/iFM20AOVbC
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) December 2, 2017
These jokers seriously must compete with each other to write the most ludicrously incriminating emails. https://t.co/bevCC6MVNm pic.twitter.com/w5nMW6aVbX
— Zeddy ( me [ person ] ) (@ZeddRebel) December 2, 2017
A lot of people will go to town on this quote, but bear in mind that all of K.T. McFarland’s writings suggest that she’s a complete idiot. https://t.co/0wnUnnyKzl pic.twitter.com/Fin0GTEHTG
— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) December 2, 2017
What does that make Flynn? pic.twitter.com/GBIj3J8z4a
— Marcel Dirsus (@marceldirsus) December 2, 2017
Most importantly, being dumb is not a get out of jail free card
— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) December 2, 2017
What are the odds Trump realizes obstruction of justice is actually a problem and not a perk?
— Schooley (@Rschooley) December 2, 2017
"Forget the myths the media created about the White House. The truth is, these aren't very bright guys, and things got out of hand." pic.twitter.com/8ZoovuUAFT
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) March 3, 2017
Jerzy Russian
Jesus, Mary, & Joseph.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
OT: Sam Harris is a definite eliminationist, but would it be fair to call him an exterminationist?
On that note, when did public/American left opinion firmly turn against New Atheism? The Affleck-Harris episode comes to mind easiest, but I feel that people might have soured on it beforehand.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
How does the mans heart keep on beating?
That “thrown the election for him”,,,that is a common metaphor. Needs more context I would say and I say Muelar is the one to get that context.
Good to see they knowingly supported a ranting, predeminita narcissist for president.
raven
When I started here is was politics, food, pets and sports. Not so much anymore.
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lamh36
Corner Stone
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD):
I would ask, “What?” but am instead going to go with, “Who cares?”
The Dangerman
I wonder what the reaction from Trump’s legal team was when he basically confessed to Obstruction of Justice with his tweet today; was it despair, in the same sense that the Guy/Gal that has to clean up after the elephants in the parade despairs, or joy, for upping the billable hours. Either one sounds like a good reason to have a bartender on retainer, too.
Adrift
Seriously not trying to kill this thread and if I do, apologies in advance (my reputation precedes me here) but “Flynn’s Brain”? Really?
hellslittlestangel
I thought a diet of fast food was the route to an early death. I am so disillusioned.
Davebo
Definitely not the sharpest bowling balls on the rack.
Adrift
@The Dangerman:
My money is on this one.
lamh36
I saw the “clarification” of story ABC News did, but I didnt’ see the big difference after the clarification but guess it was enough to get ABC to do this?
debbie
@raven:
I had to Google to find out what you were talking about, but congratulations!
Mike in NC
Jimmy Breslin wrote a novel in 1969. What was the name of it again? Oh, yeah: The Gang That Couldn’t Shoot Straight
Corner Stone
@hellslittlestangel: Two of anything from just about any fast food place on a regular basis should just about do it. Four entrees?!
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@Corner Stone: Maher/Hitchens/Dawkins/etc., type atheism. Out of the Four Horsemen of New Atheism (Ditchkins, Harris & Daniel Dennett), only Dennett isn’t/wasn’t a gibbering Islamophobe.
As to the “Who cares” question, it was something briefly discussed last week on LGM, and it just came to mind.
Steve in the ATL
@raven:
You are correct, sir
Davebo
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It is amazing that there is an organization whose huge mistake is they did not let Chris Christie make the personnel choices.
https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/937071847056773120
The Dangerman
@raven:
Congratulations. Even better, Alabama could be completely shut out of the Final Four. If OSU takes out Wisconsin, it might go instead of Bama. Karma for Roy Moore, Bama Assholes.
debbie
@lamh36:
It was candidate vs. president-elect. That’s sloppy reporting.
Major Major Major Major
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD):
This opinion is almost certainly not based on any actual thing he’s proposed.
lamh36
Oh please…Chuckles…pot meet kettle!!!
Corner Stone
@lamh36: Brian Ross has always been a bit of a loose canon. But this was a touch too far to let stand, and also gives the rwnj’s a foothold to a legit complaint.
I think they clarified just fine but at this level you have to keep it tight…if it’s against a Republican, anyway.
ruemara
You couldn’t get stupider than saying, in an email, that your foreign buddies put a finger or two on the scale of the election in your favor, so give them a favor back. But I am sure they will do more… and then the president says he knew Flynn was a crook, tried to get the investigation dropped because he’s a nice guy. But it was totally his lawyer doing that sure. Never a dull moment with the kleptokakistocracy. On the left, we should be ashamed to have been out-maneuvered by these morons, but we were. Well, some of us, who have more say and power were.
Corner Stone
@lamh36: CAN.NOT.WAIT. For Chuck’s bad deeds to catch up to him and come to light.
Steve in the ATL
@The Dangerman:
only if they got their money up front from deadbeat donnie
Wag
@Adrift:
I guess that makes Flynn her brawn?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@lamh36: yeah, I have no idea who or what he’s talking about, but Chuck Fucking Todd talking about other people falling for Republican spin?
hellslittlestangel
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): I don’t know about the When, but the Who is Harris, Dawkins and Hitchens. Atheists, like people of color, have to be twice as good as the in group in order to be regarded as decent, and those three are pretty fucking rotten bastards.
Adrift
@Corner Stone:
FWIW I think Chuckles is next in the barrel.
Omnes Omnibus
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Huh?
Mike J
McDonalds doesn’t sell malteds.
Betty Cracker
Been riding around all day on my new (to me) motorcycle. Trump who? Football what? Then it got dark.
Caught the end of the Jawja-Auburn game — Go Dawgs! Next, I would love to see the Badgers knock off the Buckeyes.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@Major Major Major Major: Per The End of Faith:
Among other things, there was also that defense of torture he published back in ’06.
hellslittlestangel
@Corner Stone: He’s hard to kill, I guess, like a dumb, fat (but clean) Rasputin.
debbie
@Corner Stone:
Rats. I was hoping you were referring to Chuck Grassley.
Corner Stone
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): I am aware of “New Atheism”. The “What” was in response to the rather strange setup that led to the “On that note”. And to the “Who cares” part, they have largely self-defeated…ummm, themselves over the past two+ decades in any kind of mental exercises.
Omnes Omnibus
@Betty Cracker:
What bike?
Baud
@raven: I support you in spirit.
Mnemosyne
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD):
White atheist women turned on the movement at least two years ago when they realized that the spokesmen were all sexist assholes who had more than a touch of white supremacism around them, even if it was nominally from the “left.”
John Revolta
I’m starting to think this is all a riff.
Next thing we’re gonna see trump wandering around the WH lawn in his pajamas like Vinny Gigante.
Baud
How does one disbelieve in God in a “new” way?
Lapassionara
@raven: Congrats to Georgia. Well earned.
Mary G
In support of my 50-state strategy, I just sent $25 (a lot of money for me) to Beto O’Rourke, who is going up against Ted Cruz next year. He’s ridiculously good-looking in a Kennedy kind of way, speaks Spanish and I have been following him on Twitter for quite a while as he barnstorms Texas, drawing crowds. Texas Observer has a great profile:
In contrast:
O’Rourke was in a punk band and is very progressive for Texas, including not accepting PAC money, but the climate against creepy men is very bad and Ted Cruz is in the 99.99 percentile of creepy men. I believe in the 50-state strategy, so I put in my money for this guy.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@lamh36: Remember various times ABC’s Jonathan Karl filed inflammatory and incorrect stories about Benghazi and nothing happened.
Liburel media bias.
Adrift
@John Revolta:
If we’re lucky he will actually be wearing pajamas.
Juice Box
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Not only are most of the prominent gibbering islamophobes, they’re also gibbering sexists. I regard religion in the same light that I regard the NFL — just the thought of either puts me in a state somewhere between deep sleep and a coma — and I can’t stand the New Atheists.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD):
Speaking as an atheist, do I care what other’s think about my beliefs? President Prence will turn that around.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: Do it while wearing a trilby?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Adrift: wouldn’t surprise me, but besides Franken and Keillor (who strikes me as kind of asexual) the big surprise so far is that no one’s fingered Tweety
ew
Mike J
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): When people noticed that all the public atheists were raging assholes. Evangelists are fucking annoying, even if they’re trying to sell something you agree with.
Major Major Major Major
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): A lot of what he writes is stupid, but he also doesn’t say we need to exterminate Muslims.
@Mike J:
Yup.
I do like Dennett though, but he’s not really evangelizing.
Corner Stone
@Mary G: Nothing stopping Beto that a little voter registration and turn out in South Texas can’t fix.
Adam L Silverman
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: @hellslittlestangel: It’s a combination of stress eating and the stress driving cravings for food from when things were better. My guess is this is what he ate when allowed to go off campus as a student athlete back when he was on the baseball team and tennis team and doing regular PT (physical training) at the military prep school his parents shipped him off to. And it explains the request for a chocolate malted. I don’t think McDonald’s has sold chocolate malteds since the 60s. It certainly isn’t healthy given his stated beliefs about exercise combined with the stressful environment he’s chosen to place himself in, but everyone’s individual make up is different. He may be able to live into his 90s eating like this, despite how bad it is for him. But if he is at hereditary risk for the same type of cognitive degenerative neurological disease that ultimately killed his father, this will definitely hasten it’s effects. In fact changing his diet might shock his system to the point that making him eat fruits and vegetables would kill him.
Baud
@Mary G: That would be the win of the season.
Steve in the ATL
@Betty Cracker: and this game shows why Mark Richt had to go. We needed a game day coach, and he wasn’t one.
Would love to see ohio state lose, because that’s always fun, then wisconsin get exposed in its bowl game.
SEC! SEC! SEC!
raven
@Amaranthine RBG: You jive ass motherfucker.
Adrift
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Paisley? Well that’s a crime right there unless of course we consider it was decades ago in which case it was fashionable harassment.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Not all atheists, just the school of atheism helmed by Ditchkins, etc. (I identify as a strong agnostic, myself).
Corner Stone
@Omnes Omnibus: God damn it.
chopper
@Mike J:
he doesn’t know that. he asks for one, he ends up with a Krusty Partially Gelatinated Non-Dairy Gum-Based Beverage, he doesn’t ask any questions.
ArchTeryx
Welp, my possibility of getting a fourth degree and career change may have just been cut off, as well as every graduate student’s education in this country. Way to go, Repubs. Used to be you thought universities were the backbone of our country. Now they’re just another partisan football.
Fuck the whole lot of them. You threw in your lot with the Demons of Ignorance. If a single goddamned scientist votes Republican in the next election, they deserve what they’re about to get: The complete closure of their cheap labor pipeline. If only trustafarians become graduate students now, they won’t take 1/100th the shit us working class grad students did.
raven
@Amaranthine RBG: I let it go once but I’m going to fuck with you EVERY time I see you post.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Mnemosyne:
Not to mention the whole anti-feminist gamer gate thing. I think there was something to the point that a lot of feminist were pushing what is their opinions as if they were scientific fact, but it quickly degenerated into just more whining about how white men have it so hard. Not to mention one one of the New Atheists community leaders is a 911 truther it doesn’t help anything.
eemom
@Amaranthine RBG:
You are the platonic form of insufferable. And I hate football.
Jeffro
@Adam L Silverman:
So…a basket of Harry & David pears…it would potentially be the gift that keeps on giving (to the country, I mean)…
Adam L Silverman
@Adrift: People that have worked with him, who were not dependent on him for references or to assist with his careers – specifically Interagency and DOD civilians, as well as other civilian augmentees (term appointments and contractors) – have said he is a notoriously sloppy thing, disorganized, none to bright, etc. His one bit of genius was in visualizing connections that others missed or couldn’t see, but even that had to be carefully hemmed in by superiors, peers, and subordinates or he veered quickly off into conspiracy thinking.
Given that KT McFarland is a crank, conspiracist, and 50 lbs of dumb in a 10 lbs bag, placing her in the role of Flynn’s brain was a recipe for disaster. All she would do is reinforce his worst qualities and enable his worst impulses.
Ken
@Mike J:
You remind me of one of my favorite bits from Gaiman and Pratchett’s Good Omens, where Dr. Raven Sable (aka Famine) is inspecting the fast food franchise he’s founded:
Corner Stone
@ArchTeryx: When I see someone complaining about not being able to acquire their fourth degree…
Major Major Major Major
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Ugh, yeah, the reddit/gamergate atheist guys are terrible.
eemom
@raven:
GO DAWG!!
Just One More Canuck
@John Revolta: or like Blake Farenthold – please note you wont be able to unsee this easily, so take care
http://gawker.com/5665630/politician-stands-next-to-a-lingerie-model-while-wearing-duckie-pajamas
Mary G
@Corner Stone: Do you know of any local groups doing that? I believe in the power of the grassroots and refuse to give money to the national party or the DCCC or whatever.
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: They were getting hammered by conservative media about a double standard in how they were dealing with this because the President is a Republican. So they assumed their usual position: fetal, thumb in mouth, bladder at full relaxed state.
ruemara
I’m not usually fond of chocolate & peppermint, but this year’s double chocolate & peppermint chip cookies is quite good, as I am at 4 for the day and should really stop.
Corner Stone
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Phrasing!
lurker dean
@Betty Cracker: nice, congrats on the bike!!
Betty Cracker
@Omnes Omnibus: Suzuki Boulevard S40 — nice little entry-level cruiser!
Adam L Silverman
@Wag: He’s about 5’9, maybe a 145-165 lbs. He may be quick and wiry, but brawn doesn’t really cover it.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@Major Major Major Major: I still feel “eliminationist” is an accurate description of his beliefs w/r/t Muslims; at any rate he’s significantly nastier than Bill Maher on the issue.
@Mike J: Any specific dates/events, though? Most of the comments here indicate a steady, gradual souring on New Atheism.
TenguPhule
Since when has diminished capacity ever stopped Americans from executing crooks?
Adam L Silverman
@Mike J: Not since the 1950s!
rk
It seems to me eating junk food is perfectly o.k. This man has been eating junk food for every meal for years. Seems to have survived it just fine. made it to 70. I’m surprised McDonald and KFC don’t shout it from the rooftops that the president of the United States loves their food.
Omnes Omnibus
@Betty Cracker: Cool. Enjoy.
TenguPhule
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Going with, Antichrist, traditional rules do not apply.
FlipYrWhig
I still think Trump has a weird psychosexual fascination with Michael Flynn (among his other weird psychosexual fascinations).
My working hypothesis is that Trump views Flynn as the man he wishes he was and that he views Kushner as the man he used to be.
Adam L Silverman
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): This guy knows nothing about war. About it’s nature, character, and/or characteristics. About the different types of war. This is someone highly educated in one area spouting off and expecting to be taken seriously because he is highly educated in that one area regardless of what he’s going on about.
John Revolta
@Just One More Canuck: I ain’t clicking on that. I already can’t ever unsee it.
Mary G
More from Lewandowski’s book:
Adam L Silverman
@Baud: There’s an app for it now. That’s how.
Adrift
@Adam L Silverman:
So Mission Accomplished then?
Amaranthine RBG
@FlipYrWhig:
You may be onto something here.
DIdn’t Trump go to some “military” high school? So he see Flynn and “his” other generals as the man he could have been, except for that debilitating bone spur.
Baud
@Betty Cracker: Nice.
Mike in NC
@Mike J: Not too long ago I decided to order a vanilla milkshake at a McDonald’s for the first time in maybe 30 years. It was nectar from heaven.
Ken
@The Dangerman:
What they’d probably like to do is copy the Opening of the “Bad Moon Rising” episode of The West Wing. The new WH legal counsel (Oliver Platt) is having trouble with a recorder that will not stop recording. The President (Martin Sheen) walks in and says “I just did X, does that break any laws.” Pratt grabs a paperweight and smashes the recorder to bits.
debbie
@ruemara:
Graeter’s sells peppermint stick ice cream during the holidays. I pick up a pint, along with a jar of bittersweet fudge sauce and am in, if only briefly, hog heaven.
Chip Daniels
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Dude, seriously?
Brain, bleach…
ArchTeryx
@Corner Stone: I wouldn’t if I had any choice in the matter. I’m switching from bioresearch to vocational rehab counseling, which requires a Master’s in rehab counseling in the state of New York.
And I’m all but forced to do it because Republicans already completely decimated the bioresearch sector with their sequester. There are hundreds or thousands of PhDs for every job in bioresearch, especially here in NYS. There are actually more vocational rehab counseling positions than there are people right now.
One day I actually want to make a middle class salary and marry my sweetheart and set up a household. I know, that’s asking a lot of our brave new economy, but…
TenguPhule
I have noticed that this blog’s advertisement hell and Trump’s wrecking of the USA are proceeding at the same pace.
Coincidence?
Adam L Silverman
@Jeffro: Imagine what might happen if someone gave him a prune compote…
Major Major Major Major
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Oh, he definitely advocates taking at least the Israeli approach to security.
FWIW (not much!) the biggest Harris fan I know grew up Muslim in Tunisia. He’s now super atheist of course, but I doubt he prominently displays a Harris (and Dawkins) book in his office because he thinks somebody should murder his family.
Mike J
@Ken: It’s not even an issue of artificial or not. From what I’ve read they do sell actual milkshakes, just not good ones as they’re reduced fat. The problem is that a milkshake is not a malted unless you add malt. They don’t. Saying you got a malted at McDonald’s makes as much sense as saying you got an absinthe flavored milkshake.
Emma
@TenguPhule: Now that made me spray water through my nose!
Major Major Major Major
@Mike J:
ew.
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: I have four, or five depending on how you count them. I highly recommend seeking professional help after the second one…
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: Is ruffled Tweety’s feathers better?
Adrift
Very happy that dinner just arrived – pizza, too tired to cook, and the eagles in SW Florida just aerated their (two!) eggs and momma is incubating.
http://www.dickpritchettrealestate.com/eagle-feed.html#
Just One More Canuck
@John Revolta: Good move on your part
lamh36
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@Major Major Major Major: @Adam L Silverman: Is that meant to emphasize extreme rigor or overt racism? Because Harris has also spoken out in favor of ethnoreligious profiling.
David Daley brought Jeffrey Tayler on as a featured Salon columnist for a few years. From what I could tell he was a decent on Russia and foreign policy, but somewhere between Maher- and Harris-levels of awful when it came to Islam/Muslims, which made reading him incredibly frustrating. Does his Eastern Europe FP work hold up that well?
Additionally, has Salon ever had a foreign policy columnist who wasn’t, as a whole, a shitbag person?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
and who fucks the woman he wishes he could fuck
assuming, of course….
raven
@Betty Cracker: But they are so dangerous and so many people die and are injured on them. Ask fuckface.
lamh36
jl
@Mike J: ” an absinthe flavored milkshake. ” Might be able to get one of those in San Francisco.
A real honest to goodness malted is hard to find. But the local Bi-Rite ice cream joint went on a malted kick a few years ago. Those were the days! Now they usually only have one malted ice cream flavor at a time for double strength malted milks shakes. Used to have two or three.
Corner Stone
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think he stopped fucking Ivanka when she was in her teens. Now he’s just reliving the glory days through his dementia and wishful thinking. In his mind she will always be the little girl sitting in his lap at inappropriate times/locations.
Steve in the ATL
@Mike in NC:
Shake, not milkshake. They got in trouble for deceptive advertising as there was no dairy in it.
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman:
Particularly irritating when it’s a neuroscientist like Harris, it’s like Engineer Syndrome on steroids.
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): I stopped reading Salon once the site became unusable with ads and trackers, which was some time ago.
sukabi
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: fie on you for “fingering Tweety”.
?
Omnes Omnibus
@Corner Stone: That’s it. Time for an absinthe milk shake or twelve.
Bruuuuce
@hellslittlestangel:
Only the good die young.
Or rock’n’rollers.
Yarrow
@Corner Stone: Ivanka is pretty much too old for him these days. And that’s just so gross.
Adam L Silverman
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): I think he’s tendentious and tedious. I also think he’s an asshole. If you don’t believe in a deity or deities, nor want to, it doesn’t take much effort. The one thing he’s most known for is overthinking unbelief. I really don’t read his stuff or pay attention to him, as is the case with most of the others you’ve listed, because I find I have better things to do.
frosty
@raven:
Congrats on your Dawgs!
And if there’s a disproportionate amount of politics these days, blame it on the Gish Gallop we’re living through. There’s some new damn thing every damn day. Sometimes two or three.
Duane
@raven: You seem happy.
chris
Yeah, about that tweet…
LOL
Adam L Silverman
@sukabi: Hopefully he gloved up first!
Corner Stone
@Mary G: I wish we had a “pessimist” font, because that’s what that comment was imbued with. I have seen him live twice and myself and my mom both gave him money a few times. She’s a social media evangelist for Beto, while being all, “There’s a good candidate running against Slimy Ted named Beto! He seems alright so maybe you should check him out!”
I’ve worked with and/or donated to groups in South Texas since before Obama. The Party Bosses have managed an impressive level of low voter enthusiasm and combined with the R’s voter suppression and ICE trucks running 200 miles north of the border at opportune times it all adds up to low turnout.
Beto’s running a low angle campaign but that doesn’t mean they aren’t gunning to win. I would consider donating directly to his people when the times come up that you can.
FlipYrWhig
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah, that was the OTHER weird psychosexual fixation I meant. It’s easy to explain Kushner: Kushner is the designated successor because Don Jr. and Eric are so obviously absurd. And Ivanka, argh, that’s a Freudian trainwreck.
But I think this Flynn thing is also coming from a place of deep, dark wish-fulfillment crossed with reflected glory. I have to think that when Flynn told him he supported him, Trump just went weak in the knees. The badass army man told him he was worth something! IMHO he misses Flynn badly.
Duane
@Steve in the ATL: That’s been said a million times. Boring.
Major Major Major Major
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD):
Confused by what you mean here.
Bruce Schneier handed him his ass on this which was great. Look, I already said I don’t like the guy very much–at least not for his religion stuff–I was just defending him against charges of ‘exterminationism’.
Tom Q
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Wasn’t it this same Brian Ross who made some sort of unsubstantiated link between the anthrax letters of Fall 2001 and Saddam Hussein, which was used to help gin up the Iraq war? No suspension over that, as I recall.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@Major Major Major Major: See also, the Salem Hypothesis:
lamh36
So…let me see if I got this right… Trump finally tweets about Flynn and basically says he knew Flynn lied to FBI that’s why he fired him…essentially confirming guilt…and now they trying claim his lawyer wrote the tweet…
Bruuuuce
@Amaranthine RBG:
You do mean “that debilitating need to avoid being shipped off to Vietnam, like all the other privileged wealthy white male kids”, I’m sure. After all, we want to be truthful and honest about El Jefe.
lamh36
FUQ you Bernie!!!
BOOO….
FlipYrWhig
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Ted Cruz is another candidate for VCB status.
Major Major Major Major
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Heh.
Uncle Ebeneezer
@Mnemosyne: I would say that Elevatorgate was the beginning of when I saw the rifts. Then some Islamophobia from Maher/Harris, some OMG the PC Police Are Out of Control!!1! by Dawkins/Jerry Coyne and others, some seriously rapey shit from Shermer/Dawkins and then some Transphobia from Ophelia Benson and the writing was on the wall: New Atheism doesn’t give a shit about minorities or their problems. Most of the vocal atheists I still love: Greta Christina, Communist, Dana Hunter, Rebecca Watson, Stephanie Zvan etc., have been actively pointing out the awfulness of the aforementioned a-holes, for years. Notably they are mostly women and/or people who aren’t white.
coin operated
@Adam L Silverman: You are evil…I like the way you think
Yarrow
@Mary G:
Have a look at the Texas Organizing Project. They are working at a very grassroots level and finding issues that matter to local people then getting them involved. They’ve had small successes all across Texas over the last several years and have increased Latino turnout. In 2016 they were instrumental in a lot of Dem wins in the Harris county (Houston area) and Ft. Bend county (southwest of Houston).
FlipYrWhig
@lamh36: “I was saying
Boo-urnsBoo-ernie.”Adam L Silverman
@chris: Let’s see what the experts think. You know, people who have actually worked in national security law:
First, the former DOJ spokesman and senior advisor to the Attorney General:
Next up a senior attorney in the US intelligence community:
The former acting Director of Central Intelligence:
Next up the founder of the Lawfare Blog and Co-Director of Brookings Institute on Law and Security:
And then there’s this little complication. Clearly an attempt at ass covering, but it isn’t going to fly.
Corner Stone
@Adam L Silverman: I’m all for education and challenging oneself. But at some point you’ve gotta cut bait and do something with all that noggin overload.
I know a female partner at a law firm whose husband has never held a job. He’s been in school the entire time they met/dated/married/had kids. Still no end in sight, afaict.
Nothing wrong if that works for the two of them, sayin’ not sayin’.
raven
@frosty: Nah, despite this whiny asshole Amaranthine RBG, I always thought of this a primarily a political blog but there used to be thread about hoops, soccer, and baseball too.
Adam L Silverman
@coin operated: Someone has to put the irregular in irregular warfare!
Omnes Omnibus
@Corner Stone: If I had the means, I would be a perennial student.
Baud
@Adam L Silverman:
Not guilty by reason of insanity?
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: As you know, learning is a lifelong endeavor.
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: I’m not going back for more. I’ve got no wall space left!
Yarrow
@raven: Whatever happened to Randhino? (Not sure I spelled his name right.) He used to do soccer threads.
Adam L Silverman
@Baud: No. Wittes is referring to intent. The President, in his interview with Lester Holt, in his remarks to the Russian Ambassador to the US and Russian Foreign Minister, and in this tweet is providing evidence of his intent.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@FlipYrWhig: Derp, I’d already edited out Matt’s comments. For the record:
NotMax
@Jeffro
Remember Reagan’s “ketchup is a vegetable” folderol?
Bruuuuce
Serious question: why aren’t liberals packing Trump’s speeches and chanting “Lock him up!” Except for the unfortunate aspect of showing far larger crowds than we’d like, it seems that would be a swell goad for the gonif.
lamh36
Don’t recall if I posted this yesterday, but I’m posting it now…
My reaction when I read it was DAFUQ?
All allegations and witness intimidation that’s alleged against Singer, think Kevin Spacey…who was a frequent guest at Singers’…ahem…”parties” (cough…rentboys…cough…) and you can guess that I had some thoughts on the “suspiciousness” of Singer being out the country as so many of this sexual harassment/assault allegations are sweeping Hollywood..
Corner Stone
@Adam L Silverman: There’s no way an attorney drafted that tweet. Not an actual one that had passed the bar in some state in the US.
raven
@Yarrow: I think he limits it to the really important stuff and, even after trying for years, I still can’t quite figure out what that is.
chris
@Adam L Silverman: I saw a lot of that and of course I agree. I laughed because the obvious lie just makes it worse.
Adam L Silverman
@Bruuuuce: They screen the crowd to control access by either selling tickets or only releasing them through trusted local agents, such as the county Republican Party where the events take place.
Westyny
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Oh, I bet Tweety’s been “fingered” plenty of times.
zhena gogolia
@John Revolta:
Yeah, I keep falling for it because I keep forgetting who Blake Farenthold is. Never again.
Yarrow
@raven: World Cup only, maybe?
Amaranthine RBG
@Bruuuuce:
Well, sure, if you want to be accurate and stuff.
ruemara
@Corner Stone: I could only get my bachelor’s. And that was working my way through it full time at night.
Baud
If they’re claiming the lawyer drafted the tweet, are they waiving privilege?
Omnes Omnibus
Fuck.
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: Heard at the White House this morning: “Get Judge Moore on the phone! The President needs sound legal counsel in drafting this tweet.”
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus: You ok?
Another Scott
@Mnemosyne: Yup. I used to read Pharyngula fairly regularly and PZ covered it pretty well. Too much of the Harris/Dawkins/etc. wing of New Atheism decided to show their racism and misogyny (and harassment, and worse) after 9/11 and Gamergate and all the rest. They’re too sure of themselves and their “reasoning” and have convinced themselves that they’re always right about things they know nothing about.
E.g. I get e-mail, Sam Harris edition (from 2015).
and, elsewhere
TheNation – Atheists show their sexist side (from 2014).
Cheers,
Scott.
raven
@Yarrow: No, other stuff too but all that Euro stuff is hard to figure out.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: We’ll see.
Bruuuuce
@Adam L Silverman: Including events like the Christmas tree lighting?
lamh36
@Adam L Silverman: if that was remotely true…Chump needs to fire that lawyer…smh
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: General or specific?
raven
@Baud: Pick on the goal line and subsequent Buck td.
Bruuuuce
@Amaranthine RBG: Let’s be accurate. Facts having such a liberal bias and all that, as I’m sure you’d assert.
Corner Stone
@Adam L Silverman: “If he’s too busy at the mall then ring up Fox! Get me Judge Jeanine, pronto!!”
“And fuck it! If she’s not there then call The Dersh! He’ll say any fucking kooky ass shit!”
Omnes Omnibus
@raven: It was the 84 yd TD that got me.
Corner Stone
Seriously. If you’re Lester Holt don’t you go to bed at night wondering what the hell else you had to do take this Trump fucker down?
Replays of that interview have to be haunting for him.
Mike J
@Bruuuuce:
I’m not convinced that shouting him down at the Christmas tree lighting would be a great look for decent people.
coin operated
@Baud: Damn…good catch.
NotMax
This is passing strange (emphasis added).
Mike J
@Omnes Omnibus: Do you need to borrow Russel Wilson? Just have him back for the Seahawks game (that I’m sort of dreading.)
danielx
@raven:
Not to mention some awesome music threads.
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: I have PIP on and missed it.
Steve in the ATL
@Adam L Silverman: @Baud: presumably football related. In some sad,third world areas, there is no SEC and the poor wretches have to follow lesser teams.
Patricia Kayden
@Mike J: Shouting down Trump would be a great thing for decent people to do. He’s the one who is indecent.
Yarrow
@Corner Stone: I see it the exact opposite. When Trump does get taken down Lester Holt’s interview will play a key part. The take down is in progress. Wouldn’t be surprised the Lester Holt interview is used as evidence.
Bruuuuce
@Mike J: That would indeed have been ill-advised. But he has to hold public events where a couple of hundred folks could get into the crowd and play picador.
lamh36
@Adam L Silverman: Um…as you know I’ve decided to go back to finally getting my Master in HCM…I made the decision sometime last week but this past week, I’ve gone ahead and applied to the program of my choice, and hoping to make it in for the Spring semester in January…
This was before last night’s vote…but still…I want it…now that I’ve got it in my head that I can actually do it
raven
@Steve in the ATL: The barrister from Madtown would take exception!
Omnes Omnibus
@raven: I’m going to let you guys enjoy your win.
Omnes Omnibus
Woohoo!
Betty Cracker
@Bruuuuce:
@Omnes Omnibus: Better now? ?
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: There ya go.
Omnes Omnibus
@Betty Cracker: @raven: It may be a very up and down evening for me.
gene108
@Just One More Canuck:
You posted a cropped photo. The actual picture makes Farenthold’s PJ’s seem even weirder.
Steve in the ATL
@raven: as noted supra, I am pulling for his boys! But the Badgers haven’t been tested this year so we don’t know how good they are. The Big [whatever number they are using now] West is like the SEC East was pre-Kirby–much weaker than the other division.
James E. Powell
@Betty Cracker:
Is it true that thing has one very large cylinder? What’s that like?
debbie
@Corner Stone:
We were talking about this in the previous thread. No actually lawyer would use “pled.” They would use “pleaded.” “Pled” seems to have become obsolete.
James E. Powell
@Omnes Omnibus:
For me too, he said from the opposite sideline.
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m pulling for you, but the game is on Fox so I won’t watch it. Keep posting updates!
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: As you know, I have some pretty deep B1G roots. Billy Marek knocked one f my buddies cold one afternoon in Camp Randall. (Plus I saw the Dead there)!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Betty Cracker: that’s great
Steve in the ATL
@debbie: yeah, and lawyers would never use out of date language!
Omnes Omnibus
Damn it.
Adam L Silverman
@Bruuuuce: They issue tickets through the First Lady’s Office for that sort of thing. From my understanding of reading the reporting, there were significantly fewer requests for tickets for that, for the Halloween Party, for the Easter egg roll this year than in past years.
Bruuuuce
@Betty Cracker: Perfect! Encore! Thank you.
Ken
@zhena gogolia:Yeah, who decided we needed a replacement for rickrolling?
Adam L Silverman
@Corner Stone: If you’re Lester Holt you wonder when they have you renditioned to a black site somewhere so you can’t testify.
Bruuuuce
@Adam L Silverman:
I’m shocked, SHOCKED, to hear that
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax: Someone is getting a 9mm retirement party!
debbie
@Steve in the ATL:
Trump sure would, though.
James E. Powell
I’m feeling horribly alone here.
Major Major Major Major
Alright! Done drawing vampires for the week.
raven
@Steve in the ATL: I’m a born and bred Illini, I understand.
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
Please don’t hurt the quarterback.
Baud
@James E. Powell: You can lean on me.
Omnes Omnibus
@James E. Powell: Yeah, but your team is up right now.
lgerard
lol
Ohio Mom
@ArchTeryx: I hate to be the party pooper but I am not convinced about voc rehab at the moment — one of the ways employers are enticed to hire the sort of people who have to have voc rehab counselors is with, wait for it, tax breaks that are on the verge of disappearing.
I can’t help but imagine it is a field that is going to stagnate for a while.
Baud
Maybe use a football emoji so we can distinguish between the game and personal crises. ???
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: As Norm Ornstein (full disclosure: Norm is a friend) said on O’Donnell’s show last night (and I’m paraphrasing): whole sections of this law are actually going to be illegal as they are going to clash with both existing laws that haven’t been repealed or with Supreme and Federal appellate court rulings in regard to constitutionality.
No matter what comes out of the conference committee and the President signs, this thing is going to get litigated for a long long time.
Betty Cracker
@James E. Powell: It’s a thumping mofo!
Chyron HR
@rk:
I imagine both companies have people on staff who understand that selling their food to 90% of the world is better than just selling it to 33% of Americans.
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: Believe me, I know. With our history with Auburn I wasn’t comfortable until the gun went off.
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman: If only there was some sort of legislative process they could have used to deal with these things appropriately.
NotMax
@debbie
Per A Dictionary of Modern Legal Usage, “The best course is to treat plead as a weak verb, so that the correct past tense, as well as past participle, is pleaded.”
AP Stylebook recommends using pleaded
Pled is a now common, previously sniffed at, colloquial alternative.
Ruviana
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
@Adam L Silverman:
I’m assuming possible “good genes” for certain values of “good.” Fred died at 93, even with Alzheimer’s and Mary at 88. Obviously neither was in great health but they lived very long lives.
germy
Trump is a germaphobe who is simultaneously addicted to fast food? Has he ever actually seen it prepared? All those teenagers putting their fingers all over the buns and toppings and patties. The bacteria that sits in the ice they scoop for the diet soda.
If someone pointed that out to him, he’d literally go insane and starve to death.
Corner Stone
@James E. Powell: You’re rooting for OSU and that’s a new feeling for you?
lamh36
Adam L Silverman
@lgerard: According to an interview Nunberg did with Chris Hayes back in January or February, it was Nunberg who convinced the President to jump on the birther conspiracy back in 2011 to brand it and himself for a potential run for the presidency. So that racist SOB deserves every bit of mistreatment he got.
Baud
@NotMax: It’s like how we now say bleeded instead of bled.
raven
@Betty Cracker: Like the one lung Beezers!
schrodingers_cat
@Omnes Omnibus: As long as you have an open mind and willing to learn new things you are student, even if you don’t go to school anymore.
We have a new troll who thinks, I is made of munnies because I had to file taxes in more than one state for a few years. Apparently, that’s a rich people problem. I am so rich that I used to do own my taxes using pen and paper, only recently started using software to do that.
lamh36
Sooooo this his lawyer write this too?
frosty
@Adam L Silverman: Whew, I quit after one BS and 2 MS degrees. Thought about the PhD but my MS Engineering advisor answered all my questions with “you don’t want a PhD.” And for a practicing engineer, he was right.
schrodingers_cat
@lamh36: Wasn’t he supposed to be the wisest of all the wise Generals in the WH?
Just One More Canuck
@gene108: He doesn’t need any help looking weird, but where does one find ‘husky’ sized ducky pajamas
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
Corner Stone
@Steve in the ATL:
Jeebus. What is going on with phrasing here tonight?
Was it something I said about Trump fucking his underage pre/teen daughter Ivanka?
Baud
@lamh36: It’s so unfair the role that evidence plays in the justice system.
Adam L Silverman
@Chyron HR: Like the people that live near this KFC:
debbie
@germy:
I think he uses germophobia as an excuse.
Adam L Silverman
@Ruviana: Yep.
ruemara
@lamh36: I’ve been wondering when that other shoe would drop. Singer is going to find he has terrible health issues for a while.
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: It would be a wonderful thing. Someone should invent it. Perhaps refer to part of it as the greatest deliberative body or something.
Another Scott
@Adam L Silverman: It’s Ok. Donnie doesn’t run his Twitter, you see. It was Barron’s fault. Or maybe Hope’s.
And, besides, what about Crooked Hillary, anyway?!?!!!
Twitler:
(sigh)
Cheers,
Scott.
efgoldman
@raven:
They fire Kirby yet?
[Believe it or not, there are more important things here and there but pets or sports.]
Adam L Silverman
@Ruviana: Yep.
raven
@efgoldman: I missed you so much.
Baud
@efgoldman: There’s nothing more important than pets.
Adam L Silverman
@germy: He is addicted to it because he believes the restaurants are still like they were when he was growing up in the 50s. He has no idea what a modern fast food kitchen looks like. Everything is done on gut instincts of nostalgia back to the 1950s and early 1960s.
SgrAstar
@Adrift: Gavin Newsome should have a turn in that barrel as well.
schrodingers_cat
@raven: Curmudgeon reunion!!
I too missed efg!
Omnes Omnibus
Shit.
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: @schrodingers_cat: His reputation for bluntness can sometimes be a disadvantage. That reply called for a lot more strategic nuance and ambiguity.
NotMax
@germy
Not that ever visited often but stopped going to Wendy’s entirely after sitting at the drive-up window and witnessing one such person reach his hand down the back of his pants to scratch (or perhaps adjust something) and then continue on with food prep using that hand afterward.
@Baud
:)
Much more like how we now accept using hung without it grating on the ears in place of the traditionally correct hanged.
debbie
@efgoldman:
Hey, hope you’re doing better.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat: His absence has not gone unnoticed.
Adam L Silverman
@ruemara: And will be convalescing someplace without an extradition agreement with the US.
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman: I don’t know, are their egos really so big that that name would appeal?
raven
@Baud: Especially DAWGS!!!!
James, Payback!
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: I’m sure they’ll rise to the occasion.
Corner Stone
Ok, people. We’re approaching a serious glidepath for Go/No Go. I have been craving the local Chinese Buffet place for a couple months now, but have resisted. It’s about what you’d expect, 3/5 or so. I am about to hit the window between families with kids leaving and customers slowing down so refresh also slows down.
I have already pre-emptively slut shamed myself for my won ton desires. If our Furiously Incurious Dear Leader can eat Four Entrees from Mickey D’s then I should be able to handle a dose of the good bad stuff once in a while, amirite?
efgoldman
@Major Major Major Major: OT, but – most of my pie cabinet seems to have emptied out while I was busy not dying. Only two well- known Wilmer bot trolls left. You run somkind of operation?
Another Scott
@NotMax: “Pled” is up there with “Snuck”. Wrong, but likely impossible to eradicate.
Cheers,
Scott.
rikyrah
Battle Born Progress @BattleBornProg
.@SenDeanHeller now throws out a stage 4 cancer patient for demanding answers. This is disgusting. #GOPTaxScam
https://twitter.com/BattleBornProg/status/937096015420653568
Major Major Major Major
@efgoldman: They die without the attention, I think.
Trentrunner went full troll while you were gone, and got pied a bunch, and then came back with a new name to avoid the filter, how sad is that?
chris
@raven: Everybody forgets the Royal Enfields. Single cylinder 750cc hardtail. Like riding a jackhammer, a very fast jackhammer.
lamh36
Seriously though…talk to me like I’m slow…what exactly makes the significance of the initial tweet about Flynn any different by claiming the lawyer wrote it?
rikyrah
Natasha BertrandVerified account @NatashaBertrand
Maybe don’t put this in writing, KT McFarland…
https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/937066296138764292
rikyrah
@efgoldman:
good to see you :)
Matt McIrvin
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Dunno, but Hitchens’ continued stumping for Bush’s foreign policy didn’t help. I think the Richard Dawkins/Rebecca Watson “Elevatorgate” fight was a turning point in some nerd communities.
Steve in the ATL
@NotMax: preferred usage is “hanged” for the method of execution, “hung” for your pictures on the wall.
Was about to make a “hung” joke, but the clock hanging on the wall tells it’s too early for Balloon Juice After Dark.
Omnes Omnibus
@chris: They are still being made.
Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA)
@Betty Cracker: Congrats on the new bike!
ArchTeryx
@Ohio Mom: In my case it’s strictly a local phenom. I work at a voc rehab organization, and they just had a boatload of counselors retire. They can’t fill the positions…not enough voc rehab folks in Albany, NY. I expect that once the Trump recession really gets legs, it will get tough…but state jobs are (as of now) unionized, and you can’t readily get fired from the state.
And they get paid a PhD level salary, something that I don’t get as a mere Office Assistant.
rikyrah
Laugh for the day
BWA HA HAHAHA HA HA
https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/936806114489860097
raven
@chris: Not everyone!
Feathers
@germy: Germaphobia is weird. Things that arrive wrapped up and you open are “clean,” no matter what conditions they were prepared in, while food prepared right in front of you, with immaculate hygiene, is somehow tainted when it arrives on a plate at the table. (For certain values of you.)
Yes, I cared for my grandfather when he had Alzheimer’s. From scratch bad, cans good.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: “And they was right.”
Major Major Major Major
@Steve in the ATL:
Not in San Francisco!
raven
@ArchTeryx: When I broke my back the Voc Rehab folks were awesome.
NotMax
@Another Scott
Yup. Both are examples of what I refer to as parvenuisms.
(Come hell or high water, shall never, never, never accept lightening as a substitute for lightning.)
eemom
@schrodingers_cat:
Fun fact: UVA undergrads are called “first year,” “second year,” etc., rather than the traditional appellations, because it was Mr. Jefferson’s opinion that no one is ever a “senior” at learning.
Second fun fact: UVA professors with Ph.D.’s are not addressed as Dr., out of respect to Mr. Jefferson, who didn’t have a Ph.D.
Third fun fact: they call the place “the grounds” instead of the campus. Dunno what the reason for that is.
Anyway, my kid’s graduated now. Second kid is at U South Carolina.
Feathers
@Steve in the ATL: I am now voting for occasional “Balloon Juice After Dark” threads of filfth.
Steve in the ATL
@debbie: @NotMax: @Another Scott: the definitive source is one of the greatest songs ever written, “Devil’s Right Hand”, by hardcore liberal Steve Earle, and he says “pleaded”, so there you go.
At his show last year (or was it earlier this year?) at City Winery in Atlanta, he paused between songs for a few Black Power salutes.
The Dangerman
Well, this sucks; OSU drubbing Badgers, setting up at Clemson/Alabama rematch, which I want to watch as much as a Trump Press Conference.
germy
@NotMax:
trump has clearly never visited the drive-thru. I’ve seen things that put me off fast food forever. I guess it’s different when your big mac is hand delivered by hope hicks to your private plane…
Baud
@Major Major Major Major: It’s even earlier in San Francisco.
Steve in the ATL
@Major Major Major Major: you disgusting people with your Nancy Pelosi values….
Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA)
@Betty Cracker: I started on an S40! That thing is a jackrabbit of a bike. I’ve had two bikes since that one, both white in honor of my ’05 S40. If I had room in my garage, I’d have kept it.
Congrats again, and keep the rubber side down.
Major Major Major Major
@Baud: Steve (below) figured it out.
@NotMax: For some reason a lot of people on the innertubes say “loose” instead of “lose”.
Steve in the ATL
@Feathers: road head was covered thoroughly; what do you want to see next?
rikyrah
David D’Ag (fss) @jackjonesbabe
URGENT! If you live in DC please try to make it here to counter Konst/Zogby/Turner efforts to enshrine Sanders through voter disenfranchisement
https://twitter.com/jackjonesbabe/status/937027461019308032
Omnes Omnibus
van Ginkel again!
raven
Who dat hippie badger???
Steve in the ATL
@Major Major Major Major: that reason would be ignorance.
NotMax
Sans comment.
rikyrah
Danez Smith @Danez_Smif
Maybe, just maybe, this tax heist almost enough to make some white ppl realize how whiteness hates them too. Cause whiteness convinced them to put these crooks in office and whiteness just said fuck they sick grandma and they niece n nem too.
7:45 AM – 2 Dec 2017
hedgehog mobile
@Feathers: Dear Balloon Juice: I never thought this would happen to me….
Major Major Major Major
@Steve in the ATL: But why that typo? It’s so pervasive.
@hedgehog mobile: Isn’t that how every Cole post goes? We’re doing it wrong.
raven
@NotMax: I was just there.
rikyrah
Andy SlavittVerified account @ASlavitt
BREAKING: On Tuesday, Congress will propose to fund CHIP through the end of December.
Yes, of this year.
https://rules.house.gov/sites/republicans.rules.house.gov/files/BILLS-115HJResPIH-CRFY18.pdf …
7:46 AM – 2 Dec 2017
Matt McIrvin
@eemom: My experience in academic fields in general is that anything less than “Professor” is insufficiently exalted to be used as a form of address. PhDs are a dime a dozen and to call a professor “Doctor” would be a grave insult, so often professional communications address any academic as “Professor” just to be safe.
Steve in the ATL
@NotMax: Florida Man has been eclipsed by Florida Possum.
Ok, going dark for a while. Don’t want to TenguPhule the thread!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I wonder if this could actually fuck them up… I can’t imagine Rubio would bring it up publicly if it weren’t a (potential) problem
Ken
@germy:
Yeah, it’s an extra 15 minutes for the germs to breed. Plus the fries get cold.
Uh, when it says he had two burgers and two fish, that’s just the sandwiches, right? He didn’t get four orders of fries too?
Gin & Tonic
@eemom: My condolences. Columbia is a shithole.
Major Major Major Major
Trump tweet density plotted by time of day and month, with Fox & Friends showtimes indicated (not me)
debbie
I don’t know Congressman Larson (D-CT), but I like him and his rant.
raven
@Steve in the ATL: The bell is ringing!
rikyrah
Sen. Lisa MurkowskiVerified account @lisamurkowski
Senate passed #TaxReform that provides relief for hardworking Alaskans & their families by doubling the standard deduction, increasing the child tax credit, & reducing the tax brackets at every income level. http://bit.ly/2BzSaFf
9:59 AM – 2 Dec 2017
…………..
Topher SpiroVerified account @TopherSpiro
Topher Spiro Retweeted Sen. Lisa Murkowski
– eliminates personal exemption
– pushes middle-class into higher tax brackets
– sunsets EVERYTHING you’re pointing to
– spikes premiums a couple thousand $$
– taxes middle-class tax payments
chris
@Omnes Omnibus: Yes, in India. They were folded into Norton in the 60s and went under a while later. The one I rode around the block and didn’t buy forty years ago was a restored late 40s model. Not even rubber engine mounts!
Mike in NC
@Corner Stone: We’ve lived in this podunk town for 10 years now and within the past 18 months two very highly rated Asian restaurants have opened nearby. Beats driving an hour to the nearest P. F. Chiang’s.
Gin & Tonic
@Matt McIrvin: I had one prof, a Brit, who did not have a PhD, and we adrressed him as “Mr”.
debbie
@Steve in the ATL:
Or autocorrect.
efgoldman
@Mike in NC:
Yeah, every 25-30 years or so it’s great.
BTW, if memory serves “malted” is the generic NY name for a milkshake, even though it contains neither a drop of milk nor a teaspoon of malt.
raven
@chris: And then there is the Ural!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@efgoldman: and an egg cream has neither cream, nor egg, as I understand.
Hope you’re doing well
Omnes Omnibus
@chris: They have a showroom in Milwaukee just across the Milwaukee River from the Harley HQ and museum.
Major Major Major Major
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: And don’t get me started on peanuts.
debbie
@Major Major Major Major:
Bet F&F is playing him, just because they can.
Gin & Tonic
@NotMax: “Traditionally correct”? Dude was hanged like a horse is correct usage?
Adam L Silverman
@Ken: Don’t forget the apple pies!
Gin & Tonic
@efgoldman: A real malted in NY did in fact contain an ingredient called malted milk powder.
Don’t get me started on the New England idiocy of frappe vs milkshake vs cabinet.
Amir Khalid
@Betty Cracker:
Ooh, she’s pretty, like a butterscotch-blond Tele.
Betty Cracker
@eemom: Dayum, that first kid already graduated? Seems like only yesterday I was teaching my kid to drive, and you were sending your eldest off to UVA!
Congrats on launching kid the 2nd. FWIW, my grandma went to University of South Carolina, and she turned out mostly okay. Still alive and smack-talking her Gator descendants this year! (They beat us at the football.)
@Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA): It is a jackrabbit for sure! What did you move on to, if I may ask?
Jim Parish
@Matt McIrvin: When I was a math grad student at the University of Chicago, the (departmental?) custom was that everyone – faculty and students alike – was addressed as “Mr.” or “Ms.” It didn’t make the hierarchy go away, or even make it less obvious, but that was the custom.
Ladyraxterinok
@Corner Stone: Check PZ Myers posts at his blog pharyngula as he progressively becomes immensely disillusioneud with Harris. Posts over 2 to 3 yrs.
Betty Cracker
@Amir Khalid: My sister insists that everyone in the family name their vehicles. I may call the new bike “Bianca” after your kitty, if you don’t mind. ?
NotMax
@Gin & Tonic
If the horse is dangling off the ground by a noose, yes.
James E. Powell
@Corner Stone:
Point taken. I moved to Los Angeles, but it’s Hang On Sloopy ’til I die.
raven
@Betty Cracker: You shoulda tried my Yamaha RD 350!
chris
@raven: Russian perfection!
@Omnes Omnibus So I see. There’s also a Canadian branch. Alas, my riding days are long gone by.
Mike in NC
@efgoldman: And one of the greatest treats in RI is a Del’s Lemonade.
Chet Murthy
@Wag: Her bunghole.
raven
@chris: The last time I was in Wisconsin I rented a softail and rode for a day.
Mike in NC
@Gin & Tonic: Many years ago I attended a “Welcome to Rhode Island” class in Providence that covered the local jargon, such as water coolers being known as “bubblers” (pronounced “bubblas”).
frosty
@Betty Cracker: Cool! Love singles! I had a Triumph single way back when: 200cc Tiger Cub. Even with 15 HP it was a thumper. I gave up the motorcycle jones; but otherwise the next one would have been a 441 Victor.
raven
@frosty: My first sled was a Honda 150 Dream. Two cylinders but just one carb!
Omnes Omnibus
@Jim Parish: My undergrad did the same thing.
Tenar Arha
@debbie: Good one. Only problem I have with it is it’s clear none of the members of the GOP on the committee are honorable.
ETA: ? when do the rules of decorum allow Senators to call each other names…outside the hearing & Senate chamber I suppose.
NotMax
@raven
Brings to mind the old joke. Much truncated version:
Texan is bragging that he can “get into mah car at dawn, drive all day and still not reach the edge of mah property at sunset.”
Recipient of bragging: “Yeah, I had a car like that once.”
Omnes Omnibus
@raven: Mine was a 1973 Honda CB350. It could touch 90 if I laid over the tank.
chris
@raven: Good for you, still goin’
I got very lucky and very scared in my mid twenties and gave it up. The bike was totalled and I walked away. Still get the itch once in a while.
Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA)
@Betty Cracker: First I moved to a Boulevard C50. Now I ride a Yamaha VStar 1300.
marv
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD):
Not sure when, but it was inevitable. There’s too much beauty in the world.
Gin & Tonic
@Mike in NC: They still are “bubblers”
raven
@chris: I was 64 then. We were in Appleton and trying to figure out what to do. It was yard sales or Harley’s! We road for hours and hours only to stop once in a while for a break. The last half hour was on the interstate and I wasn’t all that crazy about it but we just hauled ass and made it through.
eemom
@Matt McIrvin:
huh. I always thought Dr. was the highest honorific there was, short of Your Excellency, etc.
But then, I’m just a fucking “Esq.”….and, like everything else about the legal profession, what a sad joke that is. :(
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: Loved them.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: Same name in Wisconsin. Weird.
@raven: There was pissing on Joe McCarthy’s grave.
Amir Khalid
@Betty Cracker:
I’ll tell my Bianca. No doubt she’ll be flattered.
Mayim
@Adam L Silverman:
Late, as always, to the conversation (which is why I mostly lurk)…. but, yeah on sometimes wondering when/how to stop the perpetual student track.
I’m at three and a half ;-) At least I use that last half of one [post graduate certificate in genealogy from a Scottish university ~ the joys of modern Internet life] the most at work, although I needed the third one [MLS] as the entry price for the job.
So happy my mid-life crisis [go to library school and move to Maine] has actually worked ;-) And one of these days I will actually finish this last one…
chris
@raven: Bet it was fun. Next time ride to Joe’s grave ;-)
eemom
@Gin & Tonic:
Fortunately, the young ‘un doesn’t think so.
@Betty Cracker:
Yeah, I could hardly believe it was real when she graduated last May. And needless to say, I can even less believe it’s real that they are both grown up and out of the house, and suddenly it’s just me, eedad, and the doggies. ?
eta: it is vewy, vewy, quiet.
Steve in the ATL
@eemom:
Are you kidding? We are both Doctors of Jurisprudence and Esquires!
raven
@chris: I think I’m done. I rode one of those insane 850 cc Triumph Scramblers, what the fuck do you need a 850cc Scrambler for, and that was about enough??
J R in WV
@James E. Powell:
Al the usual folks was here! Why are you feeling alone? I’ll do what I can via innertubes to help!! Trump is going down, surely that helps?!
Omnes Omnibus
@J R in WV: Don’t waste your sympathy on him. His Buckeyes are leading.
Steve in the ATL
@raven: is the bell still ringing? You may not get to sleep tonight!
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: Exactly. And Esquires are a step above gentlemen/women.
Steve in the ATL
@eemom: and Senator is way above Dr. At least it was until early this morning.
Anne Laurie
@Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD):
Haven’t read Salon since the dialup days, but to be fair, the percentage of English-language foreign policy columnists who are “shitbag persons” is higher even than Sturgeon’s Law would suggest.
Betty Cracker
@Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA): Bad ass! ?
@frosty: Old school! I think an Indian Scout might be my dream bike.
@raven: That’s a Steve McQueen-looking ride!
frosty
@Omnes Omnibus: That’s the one we called the “Unit Motorcycle” as in everything larger or smaller was measured against the 350.
chris
@raven: That moment of Zen when you’re airborne at 85 mph and the bike is… somewhere else?
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@Major Major Major Major: One of them went to LGM full-time.
@Matt McIrvin: Yeah, Elevatorgate & Shermer’s rape accusations (2011 & 2013) were big intramural controversies; ISTR public antipathy turning against New Atheism some time after that.
Ladyraxterinok
@Omnes Omnibus: Me too!! And energy, of course.
Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)
@Anne Laurie: Off the top of my head: Greenwald, Jeff Tayler (covered upthread), Patrick Lawrence Smith (Putin kiss-ass, perennial contender for worst writer in the world), Ben Norton (diehard Bernie Bro).
Omnes Omnibus
@chris: I have had that moment in a couple of spin-outs on ice.
Anne Laurie
@Yarrow:
He got a life, or so I’m told!
See, that’s the problem with this here blog — it’s all volunteer labor. When front-pagers have other things to do, or just get bored (*cough*Cole*cough*) there’s no protocol for finding replacements.
I can only hang out with y’all as much as I do because I’m retired, lazy, and an aspiring agoraphobe.
You guys know any frustrated sportswriters who can pass the Blogmaster’s interview process (i.e., stand to hang around here), by all means get on Twitter and introduce him to Cole!
frosty
@Betty Cracker: Really old school would be a BSA Gold Star 500.
I had a college friend with a 441. He claimed he could put it against a brick wall rev it and dump the clutch and one of two things would happen. Either the wheel would spin or the wall would go down… but it definitely wouldn’t stall.
J R in WV
@NotMax:
Pictures are hung, people are hanged. May be important for Trump scandal resolution?
carcin
Hmm. Now imagine a headline like “Gays show their rapist side” in reference to the Spacey allegations…
Betty Cracker
@eemom: Same. Hence, the motorcycles. We figure we’ve fulfilled our biological imperatives, so what the hell?
chris
@Omnes Omnibus: It was always fun til it wasn’t.
Good night, all
Omnes Omnibus
@carcin: Explain please.
No Drought No More
Flynn’s brain? That makes sense, at least insofar as the age old folk wisdom is true that birdbrains of a feather flock together..
Ladyraxterinok
@Baud: A prof in my German grad program had as a hobby ‘let’s bring back the strong verbs in English!’ All who’ve studied German are haunted by memorizing the 7 classes of strong verbs.
J R in WV
@Omnes Omnibus:
Fuq the Fkin Bjuckeyes!!! Worthless Nuts!!!!
Only time I was ever in OSU stadium was to see Pink Floyd, which was the first time anything but football happened there, I was told. We were walking up the concrete steps just a few yards from our seats when this bass note started to rumble… Fabulous, so much better than watching an OSU football game.
Omnes Omnibus
@J R in WV: I lived in Columbus for 15 years. I have never been inside the Horseshoe.
raven
@Anne Laurie: This is an example of the “writing” that took place
Steelers v. Ravens
by Tim F.at5:34 pm on December 2, 2012. It has 42 Comments.
Wish I was watching hockey right now.
J R in WV
@Omnes Omnibus:
Well, a friend invited us, knew that we were Fink Ployd fans, so it was really nice. His girlfriend lived a few blocks from the stadium, so we parked in their back yard, had snacks and beers and brownies and strolled to the big shew. Then strolled back 2 or 3 hours later.
I should get up there more to see the cousins. We were so close 50 years ago…. then everyone moved away. I’m the only one left here, but for one guy. The bootlegger’s son. He’s a retired geologist.
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: I was there once, probably 73. I didn’t stand up for the anthem and a guy behind me gave me shit about it. I told him I was a vet and I’d do what I wanted. It turned out he was Al Kustok, former Illini player. You may know of him because his son was a QB at Northwestern and he is now in prison for killing his wife.
raven
@Steve in the ATL: I’m sure it is, I sleep (if you can call it that) with a noise machine and Normaltown is far enough away that you can only hear it if you go outside.
Omnes Omnibus
@raven: I know nothing about any of that.
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: @Omnes Omnibus: It was fairly big news in Chicago about 3 years ago.
Omnes Omnibus
@raven: Normaltown is real? Not just a term from a B-52s song?
Ladyraxterinok
@Steve in the ATL: German verbs finally helped me figure out this distinction. Weak verbs add ed to infitive for past tense and have a direct object. Strong verbs change the vowel in the past tense (also do not add ed) and do not have a direct object.
Weak verbs are so named because they have to add ed to change tense; strong verbs are so named because they are strong enough to change tense on their own internally and don’t have to add outside help of ed.
I was told that was the reasoning given by German grammarians in the 19th cent.
Steve in the ATL
@raven: sports writing is worse than amateur slash fic writing. The game summaries jump back and forth in time then end abruptly. They us the present tense for everything (“If he cuts left there he scores” rather than “If he had cut left there he would have scored”). And they, like everyone, seem to know nothing of using the subjunctive case and possessives before gerunds.
Fuckers.
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: Yes Normal Schools, think ISU in Bloomington-Normal were teachers colleges. The campus here became the Navy Supply Corps School for about 50 years and got Brac’d. Now it is part of the Medical College of Georgia and Health Sciences for UGA. The thing I miss most is the bugle at revile, retreat and taps. We lived by it for 15 years.
raven
@Steve in the ATL: get untracked
raven
@Steve in the ATL: and then control your destiny
Omnes Omnibus
@raven: One of my great-grandmothers went to a Normal School – it is now UW-Stevens Point.
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: There you have it. Let’s go coach that party. . .
Actually there is considerable consternation by the “hipster”element that Normaltown has become a very pricey (for Athens) are and people are not al that crazy about bands and shit playing all hours.
Steve in the ATL
@Ladyraxterinok: mein gott.
Omnes Omnibus
@carcin: Drive-by troll.
Citizen Alan
@lamh36:
Hell, I remember a controversy around Bryan Singer dating all the way back to “Apt Pupil” (a movie based on the Stephen King novella that starred Ian McKellan and a very young Brad Renfro). There was a high school shower scene in which underage males as young as 14 had were filmed showering nude. That was almost 20 years ago.
trnc
@lamh36:
I don’t know much about Brian Ross or all the background to his suspension. Did ABC verify that he intentionally wrote candidate instead of Pres-Elect? It seems like the kind of mistake that would warrant a correction and maybe a personal mea culpa, but it sure as hell doesn’t seem any worse than Hannity labeling republicans as democrats every time he has to report on republican malfeasance.
trnc
@J R in WV:
I have a friend who went to see PF in an arena here for the ’87 tour and said walking up to the place was like a religious experience.
Another Scott
@Steve in the ATL: Heh. “Come sit by me”, as Subaru Diane says.
But weather reporting is worser. “Tuesday, the high is 75 degrees, while Wednesday and Thursday the high is 102 degrees with a 43.8% chance of showers south of I-95, and a 38.7% chance over Bob Smith’s house in West Overshoe…”
:-/
Cheers,
Scott.
JGabriel
@Mike J:
Maybe Lewandowski meant that Trump gets his chocolate malteds at Applebee’s salad bar.