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  3. 3.

    Yarrow

    Good Lord, he’s stupid. Paraphrasing: “There’s a lot we want to do but we just have to fix the Israel Palestine issue first.” Oh, okay. No problem.

  5. 5.

    smintheus

    @Yarrow: Well, apparently if anybody can get the Palestinian issue fixed it’s Jared. Nobody else in the world but him.

    Which is not a comforting thought.

  6. 6.

    Corner Stone

    I can’t believe anyone ever takes him seriously. With all that money if I were him I would have vocal chords implanted to make me sound like Kang/Kodos.

  8. 8.

    Corner Stone

    @smintheus: He may want to consider asking the Israelis to not kill Iranian troops in Syria during airstrikes. That may be a solid first step in this whole kerfuffle.

  12. 12.

    Corner Stone

    @Cheryl Rofer: I also have two major foreign policy objectives. To import Salma Hayek to my house. And to export the entire Trump admin to Polar Bear Town.

  17. 17.

    patrick II

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    “The President has two major foreign policy objectives: Peace and Prosperity. It’s very personal to him.”

    Unlike all other presidents.

    I know you meant that ironically, but I think it really is unlike all other presidents. When Jared says peace and prosperity are personal to Trump, he means Trump thinks of those as Trump’s own personal property as major foreign policy objectives, not general peace and prosperity for everyone. Trump values his own personal peace and especially prosperity more than any other of our presidents and is unique in that way. He’s going to be making some serious “prosperity” with the Saudis. Maybe even help Jared cure 666.

  18. 18.

    Amir Khalid

    Jared’s empty generalities only remind anyone within earshot that he knows fuck-all about things. Even if you allow that he might have intentions beyond feeding his and his FIL’s avarice, he isn’t being taken seriously enough to have any hope of meaningful achievement. He’s just going to get rolled like Donald Trump did in Saudi Arabia and China.

  19. 19.

    Sloane Ranger

    There’s some media talk that Trump is going to announce that the US Embassy is moving to Jerusalem early next week.

    If true, this is going to be a major contribution to peace in the Middle East – not.

  20. 20.

    Corner Stone

    It’s tweets like this that make me despair sometimes. Because, yeah:

    Bill Kristol‏Verified account @BillKristol
    22h22 hours ago

    Bill Kristol Retweeted Jennifer Jacobs

    Trump’s going to NY to be rewarded by billionaires for the tax bill (as the trip could be portrayed) should be helpful to the Democrats’ effort to defeat it when it comes back out of conference. But the Democrats are surprisingly bad at good old-fashioned class warfare.

  25. 25.

    Roger Moore

    @Sloane Ranger:

    There’s some media talk that Trump is going to announce that the US Embassy is moving to Jerusalem early next week.

    I’m sure they’ll be able to find some old Arab graveyard they can dig up as a location, just to make the point as clear as possible.

  27. 27.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Annie Karni‏Verified account anniekarni
    Haim Saban to Kushner on his team: ““There’s not a Middle East macher in this group. With all due respect, it’s a bunch of Orthodox Jews who have no idea about anything.”

    Kushner: “there’s no better real estate lawyer than Jason Greenblatt, who’s been working on it. There are a lot of real estate issues to it.”

    Fuckin’ John Kerry never considered the real estate issues

    I know Saban was/is tight with the Clintons (and hated Obama) but I’m surprised to see him push back at Kushner like this I admit I didn’t see the clip, but that looks like a pretty hard shot.

  29. 29.

    Felonius Monk

    it’s a bunch of Orthodox Jews who have no idea about anything

    Yeah, where are all the Reformed Jews when you need them?

  30. 30.

    Mike in NC

    Moving the embassy to Jerusalem has long been one of Shelly Adelson’s demands — in return for campaign donations.

  33. 33.

    mike in dc

    @Baud: Fucking amazing that this guy hasn’t been forced to leave the WH yet. That news suggests that when Kushner directed Flynn to intercede with the Russians to get help opposing the settlements vote in the Security Council, he was self-dealing.

  34. 34.

    Sherparick

    @Cheryl Rofer: So the first thing on the agenda for “peace” will be war with Iran in 2018. Our new CIA Director in waiting Senator Tom Cotton says all it will be is 5 days of bombing & the Ayatollahs will say uncle or be over thrown by “FREEDOM” loving people of Iran. Yep we are in the world of 1984.

  35. 35.

    germy

    @GregB:

    This dudes hollow eyes are as creepy a pair as I have seen.

    Someone, I think it was charles pierce, said he looked like an undertaker who would steal grandma’s ring before the burial.

  36. 36.

    Roger Moore

    @Baud:

    JARED KUSHNER FAILED TO DISCLOSE HE LED A FOUNDATION FUNDING ILLEGAL ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS BEFORE U.N. VOTE

    He didn’t want to spoil the possibility of being seen as an honest broker.

  38. 38.

    germy

    Wait… is Saban the same guy who was behind the hideous “Mighty Morphin Power Rangers”?

    My kids got into that show when they were little and I remember taking them to the 1990s theatrical version, and I could see as they matured how embarrassed they were to have been fans.

    And then years later I saw an interview with Saban where he called the Power Rangers trash. Made me hate his guts even more. He knowingly fed my children garbage.

  39. 39.

    Cheryl Rofer

    @Sherparick: I started reading Sir Lawrence Freedman’s The Future of War: A History last night. The first chapter is about the idea of a decisive strike that was developed in military strategy during the 19th century. Didn’t work then, but amazingly persistent. I guess wishful thinking counts for a lot. I am looking forward to how Freedman develops that idea.

  40. 40.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @mike in dc: That news suggests that when Kushner directed Flynn to intercede with the Russians to get help opposing the settlements vote in the Security Council, he was self-dealing.

    and meetings with the ambassador, the banker with whom he didn’t discuss banking, his sister basically offering to sell access to Chinese financiers…
    He and Ivanka were huge boosters of Flynn and pushed trump to fire Comey. It’s almost as if they’re both in this up to their scrawny necks

  41. 41.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud: P.S. Waving goodbye since I gathered (from the video in the morning thread) that you are leaving soon. Send me a postcard!

  42. 42.

    Roger Moore

    @mike in dc:

    That news suggests that when Kushner directed Flynn to intercede with the Russians to get help opposing the settlements vote in the Security Council, he was self-dealing.

    Trump and Kushner prefer self-dealing for the same reason men’s rights activists prefer masturbation: inability to find willing partners.

  44. 44.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Cheryl Rofer: @WaterGirl:

    Will Saletan‏Verified account
    Lindsey Graham, who led Bill Clinton’s impeachment for lying and obstructing justice about Monica Lewinsky, now brushes off @jdickerson’s question about Flynn and FBI, saying: “What Flynn lied about is not a crime.”

    I remember Impeachment Manager Lindsey, both his southern accent and more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger earnestness cranked up past eleven, talking about the sanctity of the law and the oath to tell the truth….

  45. 45.

    Roger Moore

    @WaterGirl:

    They think if they just say it wasn’t wrong, it’s not wrong. WTF?

    They think if they say it isn’t wrong often enough, people will believe them and make it impossible to convict them. This is the core of Trump’s defense strategy.

  46. 46.

    bemused

    Recently our local pbs affiliate aired a very interesting Mark Twain biopic on The Innocents Abroad. His comments on the pious christian travelers on his tour could have described our current American christianist evangelicals. They wouldn’t travel on sunday so they had to make the horseback trek across the desert to Jerusalem in one less day and Twain remarked that this was brutal on the horses but of no concern to the pious who also stole relic pieces as they toured sites. There were a few other incidents depicting the unpiousness of the pious.

  47. 47.

    Ladyraxterinok

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think the temple has to be rebuilt in Jerusalem to make the 2nd coming of Christ possible.

    A 1st step was the establishment of Israel as a nation, so Truman was obviously being led by God. Trump’s promise to move the capitel to Jerusalem was a major reason fundagelicals supported him. Obama’s unwillingness to blindly support Israel ‘proved’ to fundagelicals he was obviously not a RTC (Real True Christian, term slacktivist at patheos used in his devastating page by page critique of the book Left Behind.)

    US MUST support Israel at all times because per a verse in Genesis God told the Jews he ‘would bless those who support you and curse those who shun you.’

    See John Hagee, Jim Bakker, the guests on his show, Rabbi Jonathon Cahn(sp?),etc,etc.

  48. 48.

    rk

    This is what third world dictatorships look like. I can’t currently get a job as they need experience in my field and I was a stay home mom for way too long. So I got back to school and have to juggle kids and studying. In the meantime I’m forced to watch a worthless son-in-law with no knowledge, no experience be responsible for “solving” the most important issue of our times. I know what this is about. It’s about getting real estate deals in the land that they’re going to grab from poor Palestinians in the name of judaism. Pasty face worthless punk! What hurts is that a significant percentage of the population chose to do this. Give power to the most unqualified worthless people in the country because they hated a qualified smart woman. It’s enough to make one weep!

  49. 49.

    B.B.A.

    @Roger Moore: Trump doesn’t understand the nature of his actions and has no sense of right and wrong… which just happens to be the legal definition of insanity.

    (Okay, fine, one of the legal definitions, which is no longer used in most jurisdictions, but work with me, people.)

  50. 50.

    Kay

    Yuck. I’m embarrassed for this country – the nepotism and privilege are gross.

    It’s better when Trump’s low talent, low quality relatives are behind the scenes enriching themselves. It’s worse when they make public appearances.

  51. 51.

    Kay

    Remember: Kushner lied repeatedly on his diclosure forms so anything he does could simply be to enrich him or the Trump Family.

    He was never held accountable in any way for lying on the doscolsure forms and the upshot of those lies are we don’t know anything about his personal/business interests.

  53. 53.

    Kay

    This nepotism and promoting people who have never earned anything will get worse with the tax bill. They’ll be fewer and fewer people in high places who rose on merit – more otherwise unemployable grown children of wealthy people.

  55. 55.

    Kay

    Why does Trump have such bad lawyers? They have to be DC big shots, right? So everyone on the internet had gamed out that Flynn was taking a deal EXCEPT for the people Donald Trump pays 600 dollars an hour?

    They were the last to know?

  56. 56.

    sukabi

    @Sherparick: pretty sure the Ayatollahs will write Cotton another letter explaining exactly how our constitution works and letting him know exactly how stupid he is…or they could resend the one they sent him before…

  57. 57.

    sukabi

    @Kay: he has shitty lawyers because he’s a shitty client….doesn’t listen and doesn’t pay. Proving that old maxim, “you get what you pay for.”

  58. 58.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Kay:

    Why does Trump have such bad lawyers?

    All the good lawyers turned Trump down because they knew Trump is a bad client who would undermine his own defense just for laughs. That’s no snark.

  60. 60.

    Roger Moore

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    All the good lawyers turned Trump down because they knew Trump is a bad client who would undermine his own defense just for laughs.

    I assume there are also some ethical problems, since it should be obvious to anyone who’s paying attention that Trump is going to demand his lawyer lie and suborn perjury in the course of his defense. No reasonable, ethical lawyer- which includes most of the good ones, reputation to the contrary- is going to want to take that on. That leaves hacks, ideologues, and Trump’s personal lawyers who have already sacrificed whatever ethics they might once have had in his service.

  62. 62.

    Tenar Arha

    @Kay:
    Via a friend of mine who was a lawyer….

    Trump has bad lawyers for two reasons:
    1. He’s a deadbeat
    2. He ignores advice.

    These 2 things are normally acceptable to good firms. As long as you’re getting paid enough, and if the reputational hit is manageable.

    The most polite way to put it is, Trump ruins any person or company or thing he interacts with. No high end law firm would survive his refusal to take advice for the temptation of a big fat fee, even if it’s set aside in escrow. They can protect themselves from being targeted for malpractice, by documenting everything. But they’ll almost inevitably lose clients both when they take him as a client, & when they lose, because Trump is toxic and he refuses to take advice.

    This is why Trump has basically ended up with attorneys who are the grifting lawyer version of himself.

    ETA or what @sukabi: and @Enhanced Voting Techniques: said. ?

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