Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

75% of people clapping liked the show!

Prediction: the gop will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

Tick tock motherfuckers!

Marge, god is saying you’re stupid.

Let’s bury these fuckers at the polls 2 years from now.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

The rest of the comments were smacking Boebert like she was a piñata.

The lights are all blinking red.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

Come on, media. you have one job. start doing it.

The desire to stay informed is directly at odds with the need to not be constantly enraged.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

Mediocre white men think RFK Jr’s pathetic midlife crisis is inspirational. The bar is set so low for them, it’s subterranean.

Usually wrong but never in doubt

Compromise? There is no middle ground between a firefighter and an arsonist.

Weird. Rome has an American Pope and America has a Russian President.

This isn’t Democrats spending madly. This is government catching up.

These days, even the boring Republicans are nuts.

DeSantis transforming Florida into 1930s Germany with gators and theme parks.

Museums are not America’s attic for its racist shit.

People are weird.

Republicans do not pay their debts.

Welcome to day five of every-bit-as-bad-as-you-thought-it-would-be.

How any woman could possibly vote for this smug smarmy piece of misogynistic crap is beyond understanding.

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To be honest, I’m actually curious how many votes were tipped — or just not cast — after Moore’s Big Barn Burning Hate Fest last night. Sure, it pleased Moore’s base, and no doubt the small-dollar donors who provide his steady income, so he’s got no reason to regret the show. But it’s gotta sting that so many out-of-state Repubs are suddenly seized with the urge to “refudiate” Judge Roy, like he was some shoeless drifter snuck under their big tent and stank up the joint…


Because this is the internets, Roy Moore’s poor horse briefly had its own twitter account…

Gotta be a pony in this pile somewheres!!!…

Speaking of big-time luzers…


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  2. 2.

    Warren Terra

    I would like to thank the one who made this all possible: Luther Strange’s campaign manager.

    That dude must be the least employable person in American politics.

  7. 7.

    TriassicSands

    I didn’t dare to believe that Jones could win. While I am ecstatic at his victory, a quick look at the final results limits my joy. With the most noxious, toxic, and unqualified candidate (maybe ever, but at least since Trump), the GOP came within a whisker of winning this seat. Huge thanks to the good people who cast their ballots for Jones. Nothing but contempt for those who are so lost they voted for the pervert.

  11. 11.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    I was so shocked to see Moore lose today. There’s hope for Alabama, and America, yet.

  13. 13.

    Kraux Pas

    God damn, that’s beautiful. This bodes well for 2018. The people are hungry for a real change, not just revanchist Trump BS. The government should work; and for everyone.

    Hillary ought to be considering a House seat to be made third in line for when we can impeach the Trumpence.

  15. 15.

    Roger Moore

    @Warren Terra:

    I would like to thank the one who made this all possible: Luther Strange’s campaign manager.

    I don’t think that was the problem. It’s the classic Tea Party problem the Republicans have been struggling with for a while. The rabid base is strong enough to give their candidate the nomination, but doing so risks losing enough RINOs to throw the election. Strange was the better general election candidate, but teh crazy is strong enough in Alabama to keep him from winning the primary.

  16. 16.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    So I’ve been thinking. I’m debating buying a 12-month subscription for DC Comics. I’ve heard some good things about their Rebirth event. However, 75-100 or so dollars for 3-4 titles is a lot of dough. Should I do it? Right now at my wage slave part time job I’m lucky if I make 500 dollars a month (money isn’t an issue for me. I just need some change for gas money and small bills and such). It’s so close to the holidays too. But I really want to.

  19. 19.

    Baron Elmo

    Ah, those luscious Repub tears… pour me a brimming glassful. Tomorrow when speaking to my brokenhearted Alabama relations, I’ll refrain from gloating, nose-rubbing and schadenfreude — but tonight, it’s a hearty “Fuck all y’all,” to the white-power gomers and their scripture-spouting brethren.

  22. 22.

    (((CassandraLeo)))

    @Kraux Pas: FWIW, the Speaker of the House doesn’t actually need to be a representative; it’s just tradition that they have been one. If the Dems retake the House and are sure they have the votes to successfully impeach the shitgibbon & Pence, I’d fully support having them make Hillary speaker.

  23. 23.

    Inventor

    It seems unfair that Roy Moore won’t get to wear his brand new cowboy costume on the Senate floor.

  24. 24.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    We all owe a BIG thanks to Bernie (and his kiss of death) for staying out the race.

  26. 26.

    SarahT

    If this election doesn’t motivate Tom Perez to stop pandering to the Bernie-or-bust crowd & start listening to the Dem base, especially people of color – especially WOMEN of color, he needs to be out as DNC chair, like, immediately

  27. 27.

    Warren Terra

    @Roger Moore:
    Partly I’m being funny, but only partly. The child-molesting rumors were apparently rife in Moore’s stomping grounds, such that Strange’s people maybe should have heard something and followed up – but, beyond that, there’s a bunch of stuff anyone with Google and patience could have found, that Strange’s people didn’t. The fact that Moore pocketed $1M from a “charity”. Moore writing an article against women’s suffrage, published just a few years ago. Moore coming out against not just the 17th amendment (which Republicans inexplicably claim to dislike) but against all the post-bill-of-rights amendments. The sheer depth of Moore’s ignorance on the issues. Moore was a target-rich environment, in countless ways even Republican base voters could dislike, and Strange just missed all of it.

  28. 28.

    Roger Moore

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Open thread? Question: I have a square illustration that is 1350px on a side. What is the largest I can realistically get it in a physical format that will look good? 4.5″ is so small.

    If you have the original vector file, you can blow it up a lot. If you only have the raster file, you can blow it up to bigger than 4.5″ square, but you’ll start seeing some pixelation if you blow it up too much more.

  29. 29.

    lamh36

    @Roger Moore: someone on one of the nets said it best…in a primary, Steve Bannon and the rabid base can wield power over who gets the nomination, but outside of the presidency, they are unsuitable and unable to win in general elections…

    And that’s what most establishment Repubs are scared and pissed about

  30. 30.

    Mnemosyne

    Great job, all you reporters with your anecdotes about how black voters weren’t enthusiastic!

    — Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) December 13, 2017

    Just wanted to highlight this because we, too, got treated to many stories of how the Jones campaign was fucking up when it came to Black voters. Fortunately for all of us, Black voters in Alabama turned out to be actual adults who didn’t allow a few dumb missteps to distract them from the main goal of preventing Moore from winning.

    There is a lesson here for Wilmer’s few remaining fans, but I doubt they’ll be able to figure it out.

  34. 34.

    Kraux Pas

    @(((CassandraLeo))): You’re right, I forgot about that. I mean if this administration turns out as lousy as it appears, and usually when the revelation comes it’s worse, who would have more legitimacy than the last runner up who garnered a 3 million vote plurality despite epic ratfvcking?

    Even with all the vote suppression schemes; requiring ID and closing the RMVs in predominantly Black jurisdictions, the inappropriate “inactive” statuses (stati?) that were challengeable but not explained; the Rs couldn’t keep a statewide seat in one of their strongest states.

    2018, baby!

  36. 36.

    NotMax

    McConnell e-mail to office of Architect of the Capitol: “Cancel the order for the isolation booth.”

    ;)

  37. 37.

    Mary G

    The squabbling that’s started amongst Republicans – it’s McConnell’s fault for shifting Mo Brooks, it’s Moore’s fault for hiding out all week, it’s Bannon’s fault for dissing the University of Alabama – is giving me “Wilmer would have won” flashbacks in a good way. Now if FTFNYT would write some deep profiles of black women voters, life would be more balanced again.

  38. 38.

    Mnemosyne

    @SarahT:

    FWIW, Al Giordano is giving credit to Perez for helping finance and coordinate the AL NAACP’s efforts to get out the vote, so it looks like he’s been doing actual work, too.

  39. 39.

    Adam L Silverman

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Yes, but… There are follow on series to Rebirth. So you have Rebirth: Justice League, Rebirth: Wonder Woman, Rebirth: Superman, Rebirth: Batman, Rebirth: Flash, etc, etc. These are also available in omnibus editions. If you are having trouble tracking them all down, get with me offline and I’ll see what I can do to help.

  41. 41.

    cthulhu

    Doesn’t this pretty much increase the risk for the GOP in passing their craptastic tax “reform”? Yes the House was already in play, but now the Senate is substantially less than a longshot. While it remains highly in flux what exactly will get passed, it will certainly piss off a sizable percentage of the GOP/independent electorate. I guess keep doing that thing to the chicken…

  42. 42.

    Roger Moore

    @Warren Terra:

    Moore was a target-rich environment, in countless ways even Republican base voters could dislike, and Strange just missed all of it.

    I think you’re overestimating the sophistication of the Tea Party. Seriously, things like abolishing all the post-Civil War amendments are simply not crazy enough to scare off the Tea Party. Remember, everyone in Alabama already knew Moore had twice been thrown off the state Supreme Court for ignoring the law. If that wasn’t enough to scare off the Tea Party, do you really think advocating abolishing the 13th Amendment was going to do the trick?

  43. 43.

    cthulhu

    @Adam L Silverman: Wilbur Ross is a fascinating guy. Well, in the sense that he is clearly not very bright, nor really all that successful, but has convinced a lot of people that he was both brilliant and successful. Oh wait, maybe I was thinking of someone else.

  44. 44.

    Mnemosyne

    BTW, if you take a close look ar that “Raft of the Medusa” painting, you’ll see that the guy who’s still climbing up and desperately signaling to try and get rescued while the white sailors around him are succumbing to despair … is a Black guy, or at least very clearly not white. I just saw that painting on one of my favorite Tumblrs, People of Color in European Art History.

  45. 45.

    SarahT

    @Mnemosyne: Glad to hear it, but he needs to put a stop to the “Unity” commission who keep pressing for expanding caucuses & other inherently undemocratic bullshit. Bernie cultists like Nomiki Kunst are NOT our friends.

  46. 46.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    Roy Moore won 80% of white evangelicals, 76% of non-college whites & 62% of rural voters, per exits. Gillespie held those voters in VA Gov, too. But in both that couldn’t top strong D #s w/Millennials, non-whites & col+ whites. Transformation beat restoration tonight, even in AL

    There are experts like Atrios who insist pandering to the #EconomicAnxiety of non-college whites and rural voters is the road to victory. Once again, tonight’s results prove him right.

  48. 48.

    Kraux Pas

    @Warren Terra:

    Moore was a target-rich environment, in countless ways even Republican base voters could dislike, and Strange just missed all of it.

    Sexual harassment is off the Republican radar, no one doing oppo for the Strange camp likely thought of it.

  49. 49.

    Roger Moore

    @lamh36:

    in a primary, Steve Bannon and the rabid base can wield power over who gets the nomination, but outside of the presidency, they are unsuitable and unable to win in general elections…

    I would say that’s a bit strong. Bannon and company are always pushing for crazy right wing candidates. Sometimes they push too far and get a Roy Moore or Todd Aiken or Christine O’Donnell who turns out to be too crazy to win the general, but sometimes they get somebody like Ted Cruz or Louie Gohmert who’s sane enough to win. If the Republicans were nominating only boring Chamber of Commerce types, the country would still be governable. It’s the crazy Free Dumb Caucasians who are really driving our national disfunction.

  50. 50.

    Redshift

    @Mnemosyne:

    Fortunately for all of us, Black voters in Alabama turned out to be actual adults who didn’t allow a few dumb missteps to distract them from the main goal of preventing Moore from winning.

    Similar to Northam’s dumb mistake about sanctuary cities late in the campaign, which purists insisted was horribly insulting to Latino voters

    Fortunately, nearly everyone is smarter about politics than purists.

  52. 52.

    Roger Moore

    @Major Major Major Major:
    You could probably get 6″ square without it looking too awful. If you’re willing to put in the effort, though, it would probably be better to blow up the vector outlines and redo the color. You could get it arbitrarily large that way.

  53. 53.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Yeah I’ll do that. From the title I assumed that it was a collection of single issues from each series but this:

    , collecting each best-selling REBIRTH special from 21 different series in one complete edition.

    makes me think otherwise.

  54. 54.

    Llelldorin

    I’m just sitting back sipping scotch and listening to the Republicans turning on one another. It’s remarkably enteratining watching them behave like a bizarro version of us at our worst.

  55. 55.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Redshift:

  56. 56.

    Warren Terra

    @Kraux Pas: I agree there’s no indication Republican voters will punish their own for harassment, or for far worse, but they love to warn against “the other” preying on children, even when it’s nonexistent, defamatory, or imaginary – the trans dude in the girls’ restroom, or Pizzagate. So invocations of child sexual abuse might reach them even as most other abuse accusations get completely ignored by them.

    But, also, there was so much other disgusting stuff about Moore, stuff even his vile base doesn’t like, and Strange used none of it.

  57. 57.

    clay

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: I can’t speak for the DC books. But I strongly recommend the Marvel Unlimited app. You get access to all of their current titles (six months after they’re released as a physical copy). Plus an ever expanding catalog of back issues. Like, 20,000 of them. Including most of their most well-regarded storylines. All for around $7 a month. It is, penny for penny, the best entertainment value I know of.

  61. 61.

    Kraux Pas

    @Warren Terra:

    But, also, there was so much other disgusting stuff about Moore, stuff even his vile base doesn’t like, and Strange used none of it.

    Strange.

  64. 64.

    Roger Moore

    @Mnemosyne:
    If you take a look, you’ll also notice that the painter carefully tried to avoid painting the sailors feet. He has several of them wrapped in cloth or hiding behind other objects. He apparently had trouble painting good looking feet and did his best to find excuses to hide them.

  67. 67.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Kraux Pas: It’s the same thing that happened with Trump – his primary opponents didn’t want to attack him too much on the stuff that mattered, because it would have alienated the base. The base likes and/or defends their own racist, sexist, unlawful actions so they can feel victimized.

  68. 68.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @SarahT:
    I am told that Perez’s changes in DNC priorities and tactics were a major factor here, specifically in finding lots of new ways to GOTV with minorities in both Virginia and Alabama. That is hearsay, but I hope it’s true.

  69. 69.

    Kraux Pas

    @SarahT:

    Glad to hear it, but he needs to put a stop to the “Unity” commission who keep pressing for expanding caucuses & other inherently undemocratic bullshit. Bernie cultists like Nomiki Kunst are NOT our friends.

    Agreed, caucuses make participation time-consuming and difficult. But other recommendations of the commission have merit. Wherever you come down on the open/closed primary (independent no R) question, we have to get rid of barriers to voting. Some registration deadlines are too long, NY’s is October the year before. If Dems want to make it easier for everyone to vote, they should include their primary process. It’s up to the states, but wherever they have the wherewithal to do so, they should.

    ETA: I don’t know how much the superdelegate change would affect things. Even reducing the number of them, the institutional support still exists. It’s just not a good look when the whole party apparatus coalesces around a single candidate before anyone votes.

  70. 70.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    In Alabama today, confirmed reports of:

    ▪️ACTIVE voters listed as INACTIVE
    ▪️Police intimidation at polls
    ▪️Long lines due to insufficient equipment
    ▪️Misleading ballots
    ▪️Texts telling people their polling location changed

    THESE ARE ALL FORMS OF VOTER SUPPRESSION.

    All those obstacles and barriers and Blacks still led the way to victory.

  71. 71.

    lamh36

    the number really are astounding….

    like 63% of white women corrs for Moore…

    i mean seriously how exactly are Dems are supposed to reach out to some of these women to vote Dems when they’d view for a man like Roy Moore/Trump than one like Doug Jones

  73. 73.

    Fair Economist

    @Warren Terra:

    The fact that Moore pocketed $1M from a “charity”

    Strange did run ads against that. I agree it’s political malpractice he didn’t find the pedophilia rumors.

  75. 75.

    Elizabelle

    When you saw the FTF NYTimes and other MSM tut tutting with stories on “Jones is not motivating the black community to vote”, it shows how badly out of touch THEY are.

    Just like they can never find any enthusiastic Hillary supporters. It’s blindness. They have blinders on.

  76. 76.

    Mnemosyne

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Yep. Black voters and other minority voters mostly act as rational adults making a pragmatic decision about what direction they would like fheir city, state, and/or country to go in.

    And then white voters barge in waving a foam finger and chanting for Team White to win while a minority of us sit at the back edging our way over towards the other adults in the room and mouthing “sorry!” to them.

  81. 81.

    NotMax

    @clay

    Woolworth’s, famous for building a merchandising behemoth via its 5 and 10¢ stores.

    (Riff on your “penny for penny, the best entertainment value.”)

  82. 82.

    Viva BrisVegas

    @Warren Terra:

    there was so much other disgusting stuff about Moore, stuff even his vile base doesn’t like, and Strange used none of it.

    I disagree that Republican primary voters would have found anything about Moore in the least disturbing.

    Strange couldn’t use Moore’s vileness against him, because those Republican voters share in it.

  85. 85.

    SarahT

    @Kraux Pas: Well voter regstration should be easier across the board, we need same-day resgstration, automatic registration, and overturning odious Voter I.D. laws- all of that. But I’m totally against open primaries because they can so easily be gamed, and yes, I do think if you can’t be bothered to register as a Dem, then you do NOT get to choose the Dem candidate. You just don’t.

  86. 86.

    Anne Laurie

    @Warren Terra:

    But, also, there was so much other disgusting stuff about Moore, stuff even his vile base doesn’t like, and Strange used none of it.

    From what I was reading at the time, it was 60% ‘don’t piss off the trolls Base’, 30% ‘remember the eleventh commandment — we’ll need to come back to these voters again’, and 10% ‘uhh, are we SURE ol’ Luth doesn’t have anything… strange… in his own history?’

  87. 87.

    Mike J

    If one thought of the squares in a Piet Mondrian painting as pixels one could blow up a picture to be very large.

  88. 88.

    Kraux Pas

    @SarahT: We have open primaries here in MA and a strong plurality of voters registered “unenrolled” (our version of independent, and the Dems manage to field such strong candidates that there’s generally a veto-proof D majority in the Legislature and a 100% D Congressional delegation (except for that Brown aberration).

  91. 91.

    Raoul

    @Mnemosyne: Yup.
    And starting today (after some sleep), when this dynamic sets up we instead need to say “sit down” out loud to the foam-flecked whites.

    I know some of us already do.

  92. 92.

    Elizabelle

    Uh huh. The Atlantic. African American Voters Made Doug Jones a U.S. Senator in Alabama

    Ahead of Alabama’s special Senate election, there was a clear narrative about the state’s black voters: They weren’t mobilizing.

    Six of 10 black voters stopped by a New York Times reporter in a shopping center last week didn’t know an election was even going on, a result the reporter took to mean overall interest was low. The Washington Post determined that black voters weren’t “energized.” HuffPost concluded that black voters weren’t “inspired.”

    If Democratic candidate Doug Jones lost to GOP candidate Roy Moore, weakened as he was by a sea of allegations of sexual assault and harassment, then some of the blame seemed likely to be placed on black turnout.

    But Jones won, according to the AP, and that script has been flipped on its head. Election day defied the narrative, and challenged traditional thinking about racial turnout in off-year elections and special elections. Precincts in the state’s “black belt,” the swathe of dark, fertile soil where the African American population is concentrated, reported long lines throughout the day, and as the night waned and red counties dominated by rural white voters continued to report disappointing results for Moore, votes surged in from urban areas and the black belt. By all accounts, black turnout exceeded expectations, perhaps even passing previous off-year results. Energy was not a problem.

  97. 97.

    Elizabelle

    More from the Atlantic article. Author is Vann R. Newkirk II

    These results demolish the pre-established media narrative about black voters in the state, and defy conventional wisdom. Black voters were informed and mobilized to go vote, and did so even in the face of significant barriers.

    I previously noted that Alabama is one of the hardest states in the country to vote—especially so for black voters, and that voter suppression efforts could have had strong effects on black votes. Tuesday night’s returns are all the more remarkable because of the surge of turnout that appears to have taken place in spite of those very real barriers.

    The grassroots organizing in black communities by groups like local NAACP chapters was more muscular than it had even been in the 2016 general election. In the lead-up to Tuesday’s contest, voting-rights groups registered people with felonies, targeted awareness campaigns at people who might not have had proper ID, and focused specifically on knocking down the structures in place that keep black voters away from the polls. Their efforts immediately become a case study in how to do so in a region that has, since the Supreme Court’s 2013 Shelby County v. Holder decision curtailing the 1965 Voting Rights Act, become a bastion of new voter-suppression laws, including new voter-ID laws.

  98. 98.

    piratedan

    enjoying this outcome…, an unexpected reversal in fortune in a place that Trump won by huge margins just over a year ago…

    the struggle continues… more hearings, more phone calls, more registration drives and the forever struggle to change the media framing of the issues in a pro-GOP fashion.

    Lets keep electing Democrats and obtain the numbers needed to indict this political abomination and his entire staff of goons and if need be, hold his political party accountable for aiding and abetting this travesty of an administration. We really need to LISTEN to what our entire coalition is saying, and have them be seen charting the course and articulating policy.

    I’ve frankly had enough of white guys mansplaining things, frankly folks of my gender and melanin content obviously have issues hearing rational concepts discussed by others who do not share their gender or melanin mixture, so perhaps its time to check ourselves and defer to the majority of voices, rather than keep on this same tortured path.

  99. 99.

    fuckwit

    Yes, I have gradually come to realize there’s a huge dose of White Privilege in the “oh, the candidate doesn’t *inspire* me, why should I vote…” bullshit.

    I remember during the Obamacare debate, people of color were out there busting their ass to get Obamacare passed, despite how flawed it was. Me and my fellow White Privileged snowflakes were protesting against it because it wasn’t Single Payer.

    In a group of people in Feinstein’s lobby, I got pulled up short by an older black woman who was working to sell the good points of Obamacare. She seemed like she’d been through some hard shit. She had no patience for me and my proto-Bernie-bro, proto-Occupy cohorts who were there to demand Medicare for All and Single Payer.

    Spoiled and privileged. Go and campaign and vote dutifully and diligently for the lesser of two evils. Otherwise, all you will ever get is the worst evil possible. Kind of like what happened in 2010, 2014, and 2016, and which gave us the clusterfuck we’re stuck with now.

    Children demand to be inspired. Adults do their duty.

    Thanks to everyone in Alabama who did their duty. Depending on what noxious Rethug plan might be foiled by Jones’s votes in the Senate, those voters may have saved the country in the process.

  100. 100.

    Kraux Pas

    @Chet Murthy: From that article it looks like Wisconsin’s open primary system allows R voters, not just independents like in MA and as I described I preferred above. That’s a bridge too far, a clear invitation to ratfvcking.

  101. 101.

    Kraux Pas

    @Anne Laurie: Oh, sorry, I realized what had happened after I posted the fetch request. That’s why I did the request delete. I’m making all sorts of work for you tonight, sorry.

  103. 103.

    Bess

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:

    The two happy clappers who always/often end up flanking Kum’s read need names.

    Can you imagine how bad their lives must be. They know if they have an off day they’re likely to be strapped to the muzzle of an anti-aircraft gun and turned into dog food. But as their bowls quake they perform as if the most amazing thing to ever happen in the history of the universe just happened right before their eyes.

    They’re like characters out of a Gilbert and Sullivan opera.

  104. 104.

    Kraux Pas

    @piratedan:

    I’ve frankly had enough of white guys mansplaining things, frankly folks of my gender and melanin content obviously have issues hearing rational concepts discussed by others who do not share their gender or melanin mixture, so perhaps its time to check ourselves and defer to the majority of voices, rather than keep on this same tortured path.

    It could be that, or it could be that they don’t care about rationality in the political sphere because of a cave-man level urge to make their tribe dominate.

  105. 105.

    NotMax

    @Elizabelle

    One thing the Rs are completely blind to in their push to legalize direct politicking from the pulpit for non-profits is the scope of very active African-American and Hispanic congregations out there.

  106. 106.

    Elizabelle

    @NotMax: True. Although, still a horrible idea to allow churches into politicking. Informal is OK.

    I hope Moore’s nomination put a real crimp in the evangelical community. His voters brought their shame upon themselves.

  108. 108.

    eemom

    I just read that the sack of shit refuses to concede.

    ok, shitbag, go ahead and grovel and get your sick fuck ass kicked all over again. That’ll be fun to watch.

  111. 111.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    @T S:

    Atrios‏ @Atrios

    i’m a “fuck the suburbs” kinda guy but i don’t see it as a competition (other than over policy but that’s different)

    6:59 AM – 25 Feb 2017

    Atrios‏ @Atrios Jun 20

    Suburban assholes have been the republican base my whole life
    14 replies 150 retweets 877 likes

    Atrios‏ @Atrios Jun 20

    they’re the tribal republicans. white flight was racism, but became escaping “democrat cities.” democrats=your tax money to black people

    4 replies 21 retweets 103 likes

    Atrios‏ @Atrios Jun 21

    so idea that racist politics is driven by rural “white trash” racism is completely absurd
    4 replies 5 retweets 41 likes

    Atrios‏ @Atrios Jun 21

    the racism is coming from INSIDE YOUR SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD
    6 replies 44 retweets 130 likes

    Atrios‏ @Atrios Jun 20

    close suburban districts are real but you aren’t going to win them by going after boomer republicans. they are the ultimate tribal voters https://twitter.com/roqchams/status/877381032214798336 …

    Atrios‏ @Atrios Jun 20

    PA philadelphia suburbs are the archetype of this dream. republicans own them all

    I spent 10 minutes on this. if you want me to spend more time posting dozens more then I require milk and cookies.

  112. 112.

    Chet Murthy

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Uh, this is evidence -against- your thesis regarding Atrios,no? Atrios seems to be arguing that the racism is even more pervasive than just amongst rural white trash, it seems to me. He arguing that the suburbs are also heavily racist. I see no evidence he’s arguing there’s an economic component, nor that he’s arguing the rural areas aren’t heavily racist too.

    He’s just saying (to quote him, b/c it’s so quotable): “the racism is coming from INSIDE YOUR SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD”

  113. 113.

    lowtechcyclist

    DAYUM! What great news to wake up to!!

    Don’t have anything to contribute to the discussion, just turned the computer on a moment ago. But WOW!!!

  116. 116.

    Chyron HR

    And I looked, and behold a sassy horse.
    And his name that sat on him was derp, and fail followed with him.

  117. 117.

    Amir Khalid

    Has anybody seen my clip-on guitar tuner? I seem to have mislaid it. (Not a dire emergency; I have the tuner app in my phone and a tuner in my effects pedal. Still annoying, tho.)

  118. 118.

    Kathleen

    I’m so happy I’m crying. Congratulations to Doug Jones and the good people in Alabama, particularly the African American community. Their courage, grit and determination inspire and help me, a hand wringing despairing Irish old white lady keep my eye on the prize.

  119. 119.

    Patricia Kayden

    @SarahT: True. Black voters came out in droves and made Jones’ win possible. I’m beginning to view Bernie Bros as the enemy.

  121. 121.

    agorabum

    @SarahT: Can we cool it with the circular firing squad for at least one night?
    Also, Perez did fairly well here in getting money and support to Jones behind the scenes.

  124. 124.

    Zinsky

    I gave $100 to the Jones campaign and I live in Minnesota. Ecstatic at the results! The best $100 I have ever spent. I can now go to my grave knowing that I helped send a Bible-thumping pedophile pervert down to defeat, instead of to the U.S.Senate where he could inflict his hateful, medieval beliefs on all of us!

  125. 125.

    SFAW

    @Amir Khalid:

    Has anybody seen my clip-on guitar tuner? I seem to have mislaid it.

    I thought I saw you put it down over there. See where I’m pointing? No, a little to the left. No, further left. See it?

    What? It’s not there? I could have sworn I saw it there not 5 hours ago. Well, in that case, I can’t help, sorry.

  126. 126.

    Dmbeaster

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:

    There are experts like Atrios who insist pandering to the #EconomicAnxiety of non-college whites and rural voters is the road to victory

    Maybe this was just poorly done snark, but if meant seriously, do you actually read his blog?

  127. 127.

    bookdragon

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
    Atrios doesn’t have a clue about PA Philly suburbs. I live in one of them and this Nov the Democratic candidates swept the local elections. In my township, everything went blue except tax collector (and that candidate only lost by 11 votes to a R lady who was pretty inoffensive and had been in the job for 20+ years).

    And do you know who helped knock on doors and hand out GOTV materials? Two of my retired neighbors who *used to* always have GOP candidate signs in their yards. Anecdote isn’t data, but while some Boomers may be too tribal to shift, in an area where people are Republican because their families have been R since Lincoln, I’ve seen living proof that that isn’t an ironclad rule.

  129. 129.

    RSA

    @Elizabelle:

    Precincts in the state’s “black belt,” the swathe of dark, fertile soil where the African American population is concentrated…

    I don’t have a substantive comment but just noticed this bit of bizarre and awkward writing.

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