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25th for 45 (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  January 6, 201810:02 am| 63 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity, Assholes, General Stupidity

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In response to a book containing allegations that he’s childish and vindictive, Trump tweeted this:

Michael Wolff is a total loser who made up stories in order to sell this really boring and untruthful book. He used Sloppy Steve Bannon, who cried when he got fired and begged for his job. Now Sloppy Steve has been dumped like a dog by almost everyone. Too bad! https://t.co/mEeUhk5ZV9

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 6, 2018

In response to a national conversation about his intelligence, sanity and stability, Trump tweeted this:

….Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart. Crooked Hillary Clinton also played these cards very hard and, as everyone knows, went down in flames. I went from VERY successful businessman, to top T.V. Star…..

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 6, 2018

….to President of the United States (on my first try). I think that would qualify as not smart, but genius….and a very stable genius at that!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 6, 2018

Enjoy your weekend!

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  1. 1.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 6, 2018 at 10:04 am

    “Stable genius” = Someone who knows a lot about horseshit.

  2. 2.

    bystander

    January 6, 2018 at 10:06 am

    “Stable genius” may mean he knows best how to shovel horsesh*t.

  3. 3.

    Roger Moore

    January 6, 2018 at 10:06 am

    Shorter Donald Trump: I know you are, but what am I?

  4. 4.

    PaulWartenberg

    January 6, 2018 at 10:09 am

    know how many smart people – geniuses – suffer from Imposter Syndrome to where they RARELY brag about how genius they are?

    Granted, you get a few egomaniacs who love to boast their genius status. but they are NEVER truly stable on an emotional level.

    trump’s delusions would be laughable except this is all too dangerous.

  5. 5.

    geg6

    January 6, 2018 at 10:11 am

    It was not his first time. Another easily verifiable lie. Unless his long term memory is going. Which could certainly be true.

  6. 6.

    satby

    January 6, 2018 at 10:11 am

    I think the demand that the Republicans do something about Trump will continue to build. They can and will try to ride out this storm, but they won’t be able to.

  7. 7.

    eschneider

    January 6, 2018 at 10:11 am

    @bystander: There is a right way and a wrong way to shovel horsesh*t. It’s more complicated than it looks.

  8. 8.

    geg6

    January 6, 2018 at 10:13 am

    @satby:

    I agree. Even the media are saying it out loud now.

  9. 9.

    KickBoxBanana

    January 6, 2018 at 10:13 am

    That’s too stupid and childish even for him. I think he just does it for kicks now. Then again, the bar is so low already it’s hard to go much lower.

  10. 10.

    lowtechcyclist

    January 6, 2018 at 10:14 am

    4525 should be his new designation.

    Every mention of him should include that built-in reminder that his Cabinet has this urgent business to attend to.

  11. 11.

    clay

    January 6, 2018 at 10:14 am

    It goes without saying, but he’s lying of course. This wasn’t the first time he ran for president.

  12. 12.

    john fremont

    January 6, 2018 at 10:14 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: With all this horseshit laying around, there’s gotta be horse in here somewhere!

  13. 13.

    bystander

    January 6, 2018 at 10:15 am

    @eschneider: Who knew horsesh*t shoveling was so complicated? As a stable genius, I’m sure he has now mastered every nuance.

  14. 14.

    Tokyokie

    January 6, 2018 at 10:17 am

    Hmmm, one would have guessed that Fred’s real estate portfolio would have figured into der Trumpenführer’s greatest assets. But you know that somebody must be Wile E. Coyote Super Genius-level brilliant if he makes his argument by writing he is “being, like, really smart.” I seriously doubt that T.S. Eliot could have caressed the English language to make such an argument more compellingly and more succinctly.

  15. 15.

    randy khan

    January 6, 2018 at 10:21 am

    @Tokyokie:

    I seriously doubt that T.S. Eliot could have caressed the English language to make such an argument more compellingly and more succinctly.

    LOL. This made me think of an appropriate Eliot response to Trump:

    We are the hollow men
    We are the stuffed men
    Leaning together
    Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!

  16. 16.

    JohnO

    January 6, 2018 at 10:22 am

    @satby: I’m almost 60 and have been paying attention to national politics a LONG time and I don’t think the modern Republican party has the moral backbone to do it this time.

    I see nothing but chaos ahead. Trump is simply going to fire and pardon everyone he feels like; I don’t believe a SINGLE person inside the Trump Crime Syndicate will ever see a minute of even soft time, and things are going to get awfully dicey when The People realize there is no Constitutional remedy for what’s happening.

    We live in a fact-free world now. Mueller can bring video of DT on his knees under Vlad’s table while the KGB laughs at him to the Times and Post and DT taking cartoon bags of money off a Russian freighter at the port in NYC, and his base and most conservatives will cry fake news and if they have enough luck (RBG dying, for example) the courts could be packed sufficiently for reality to matter no longer. We’ll see.

    Very strange and unsettling times.

  17. 17.

    jimmiraybob

    January 6, 2018 at 10:23 am

    President Obama made it on his first try. And his second.

  18. 18.

    AM in NC

    January 6, 2018 at 10:24 am

    Yesterday and today I called both my Republican Senators and left messages for them asking why they and GOP leadership aren’t doing something about our obviously dangerous President. Make them responsible for him.

  19. 19.

    donnah

    January 6, 2018 at 10:25 am

    I downloaded Wolff’s book. I’m only three chapters into it, but it’s scary as fuck and even if it’s not all true, there are nuggest of truth that make me want to fill my basement with provisions and bolt the door.

    It will be interesting to see how the information Wolff shares is processed by the Republicans. If Wolff can indeed back everything up with tapes and notes, there will be a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth. It’s a quick read and I intend to finish it. I will take it under advisement that some of it can just be Wolff’s conjecture, but if even part of it is true, it’s an indictment of the Republican Party on a grand scale.

  20. 20.

    clay

    January 6, 2018 at 10:26 am

    Why would he (or whoever types his dictates) put in the “…, like, …” before the “really smart”? It’s one thing as a verbal tic, but typed out it produces the opposite of the intended meaning.

    Maybe his tweet-typed is a sick of this bullshit as the rest of us?

  21. 21.

    japa21

    January 6, 2018 at 10:26 am

    Does Trump even recognize that the very fact that he felt the need to do those last two tweets and that he went ahead and tweeted them actually undermines his whole argument? Why am I even asking that?

  22. 22.

    JGabriel

    January 6, 2018 at 10:30 am

    Donald Trump:

    Actually, throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart … I went from VERY successful businessman, to top T.V. Star to President of the United States (on my first try). I think that would qualify as not smart, but genius….and a very stable genius at that!

    Whereas most Americans view it as the greatest example — the absolute quintessential paradigm par excellence — of failing upward. And proof that all you need to be successful in America is to start out with a few hundred millions of inherited dollars.

  23. 23.

    Honus

    January 6, 2018 at 10:32 am

    @eschneider: as somebody who has actually shoveled a fair amount of horse manure, I can verify that. Spreading sand or gravel with a shovel is also a bit of an art.

  24. 24.

    Suffragette City

    January 6, 2018 at 10:32 am

    I too am helping Wolff become a very rich man. Had to, too damn funny and frightening not to.

    Has the calendar come out yet? I clicked on the store but it’s not showing.

  25. 25.

    Elizabelle

    January 6, 2018 at 10:34 am

    I truly think the “Trump is unfit” is hitting the fan because the GOP thieves already rammed their tax cut for the rich down our throats. Without a single Democratic vote.

    Trump is expendable now.

  26. 26.

    Quinerly

    January 6, 2018 at 10:34 am

    @jimmiraybob: So did Bill Clinton.

  27. 27.

    tobie

    January 6, 2018 at 10:34 am

    @JohnO: Rachel Maddow made the same point last night. Whatever semblance of autonomy the Republicans exercised (or seemed to exercise) at the beginning of Trump’s term has now evaporated. ALL Republicans in the Senate and the House are engaged in an out-and-out effort to discredit the FBI, the DOJ, the Mueller probe, and the perennial favorite, the Clintons. Shit, the FBI under party hack Wray even turned over two of its agent to the House wolves. To echo Kay from this morning’s open thread, the time is coming when we will need to take to the streets.

    ETA: Anyone have a read on Rosenstein? Can’t tell if he is an honorable public servant or a hack like Wray.

  28. 28.

    Tokyokie

    January 6, 2018 at 10:34 am

    I will give Il Douche credit for this: I never thought I’d ever feel sympathy for Steve Bannon. However, with a little sleep, I’ll get it over it, whereas der Scheißgibbon will be thoroughly contemptible forever.

  29. 29.

    kd bart

    January 6, 2018 at 10:37 am

    The only person who buys this crap is Cillizza.

  30. 30.

    Tokyokie

    January 6, 2018 at 10:38 am

    @randy khan: In my experience, nobody who feels compelled to insist on stating just how smart he is, is such.

  31. 31.

    mai naem mobile

    January 6, 2018 at 10:39 am

    I’ll have to wait for Colbert to read that out in his Dolt45 voice on Monday.

  32. 32.

    jimmiraybob

    January 6, 2018 at 10:51 am

    @Quinerly: It might be easier to figure out who didn’t make president on their first try. Thomas Jefferson didn’t make it on the first try but did on the 2nd and 3rd.

  33. 33.

    BC in Illinois

    January 6, 2018 at 10:52 am

    @jimmiraybob:

    President Obama made it on his first try. And his second.

    @Quinerly:

    So did Bill Clinton.

    So did Jimmy Carter.
    And JFK.
    You know, people who were, like, really smart.
    And Presidents we can be proud of.

    In my lifetime, Truman was already President when he ran the first time, and I think LBJ ran in 1960 and has (ahem) a mixed record, including a lot that was good. But overall the point is that running for the first time is not the point; the point of it all is being a good president. Which Trump is not.

    And as Sarah Kendzior points out:

    Trump did not win the presidency “on the first try”. He ran or flirted with a run three other times: 1988, 2000, 2012. . . . Both he and his backers float “neophyte politician” as a defense. He’s not, and it’s no defense.

  34. 34.

    chris

    January 6, 2018 at 10:53 am

    Deleted because great minds, etc.
    Damn, BC!

  35. 35.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 6, 2018 at 10:54 am

    @Tokyokie:

    i know right? pic.twitter.com/oF7O74zXKC

    — Gary M. Sarli (@GMSarli) January 6, 2018

  36. 36.

    Gelfling 545

    January 6, 2018 at 10:55 am

    @JohnO: This mirrors a discussion we had at a family dinner on NYE. The younger folks had faith it would be handled, us older people, not so much. Being old enough to have witnessed the complete dissolution of the Republican party along with the fact that they have been rewarded for it with immense power gives one little to hope for from them.

  37. 37.

    Gravenstone

    January 6, 2018 at 10:59 am

    Yo, “genius” – actual intelligent people don’t typically go shouting it to the rooftops. Insecure imbeciles, on the other hand …

  38. 38.

    Bobby Thomson

    January 6, 2018 at 10:59 am

    The 25th amendment does not work. You will never get 2/3 of the House to vote for removal. Never.

  39. 39.

    mike in dc

    January 6, 2018 at 11:01 am

    Very Stable Genius, or VSG, is my new appellation for him. As in, Very Stable Genius can build a working fusion reactor on his first try.

  40. 40.

    CarolDuhart2

    January 6, 2018 at 11:01 am

    @JohnO: I think everyone up to Pence and Trump will see time. There’s a real reason they are trying to attack the DC/NYC jury pool and its diversity. The people in it have faced and worked for scumbags like Manafort, have seen the bigotry of Trumpland, and hate all parts of it. Add the general ineptitude of Trumpland legal counsel, and just about everybody who hasn’t made a deal will do time.

    This part doesn’t have anything to do with Congress or the Republican Party. If Mueller can make a solid case, they are done and will go to Club Fed.

    Defendant can hope for pardons, but Trump is deteriorating at record speed to the point where I think in a few weeks he will need assistance even getting dressed in the morning. He already can’t read, how soon it will be before he forgets who he is as a person, let alone that he’s President. Motor skills, anybody? Able to even know what a pardon is?

    Ever since he was sworn in, I’ve expected that one day they will find him curled up in a ball under the Resolute Desk, unable to speak or understand what they are saying to him.

  41. 41.

    BC in Illinois

    January 6, 2018 at 11:03 am

    @chris:

    great minds, etc.

    And very stable great minds, at that.

  42. 42.

    dmsilev

    January 6, 2018 at 11:03 am

    President Fredo Corleone.

  43. 43.

    Gelfling 545

    January 6, 2018 at 11:07 am

    @Suffragette City: I ordered from Barnes &Noble early yesterday – hardcover because I want to be able to pass it around to others. Ordered online because my usual connection at the store said forget it – sold put before it came in! At time pf order expected shipping date was 1/10. By the time It was processed we were already to 1/19. Mr Wolff is going to be a very wealthy individual.

  44. 44.

    Bobby Thomson

    January 6, 2018 at 11:09 am

    @Tokyokie:

    In my experience, nobody who feels compelled to insist on stating just how smart anything he is, is.

  45. 45.

    marv

    January 6, 2018 at 11:11 am

    Really bothered me I couldn’t quite place the “voice” I heard under the Michael Wolff tweet. Then it hit me – reminds me of Andy Kaufman’s Archie Bunker imitation

  46. 46.

    clay

    January 6, 2018 at 11:13 am

    @dmsilev: Actually, he combines the worst qualities of Fredo and Sonny. (Stupidity and impulsive vindictiveness, respectively.)

  47. 47.

    Gravenstone

    January 6, 2018 at 11:14 am

    @clay: He’s used that exact formulation “like, really smart” to describe himself in the past. So that’s genuine Trump gibberish being Tweeted about.

  48. 48.

    m.j.

    January 6, 2018 at 11:16 am

    I’m probably wrong here, but looking at the 25th Amendment it seems to me that someone could hand Donny a piece of paper and ask him to sign it, saying plaintively, “Please, Mr. President, if you do this you’ll still be President, you can play all the golf you want, and your Vice President will take care of everything else…really!”

    I understand the Republican intelligentsia are meeting at Camp David this weekend.

  49. 49.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    January 6, 2018 at 11:18 am

    Damn dumb ass Donny really doesn’t get it

    He used Sloppy Steve Bannon, who cried when he got fired and begged for his job.

    Because Bannon was the only in your administration who gave a shit of doing his job, you ignorant twat. Of course Bannon was heart broken.

    Damn, now I have sympthy for Bannon, strange times.

  50. 50.

    jimmiraybob

    January 6, 2018 at 11:20 am

    Someone should Google up the old Budweiser “Real men of Genius” advertisements. There’s one about toupees that is as good as Prophecy gets.

  51. 51.

    clay

    January 6, 2018 at 11:21 am

    @Gravenstone: Yeah, I’ve heard him use that as a verbal tic. But why the fuck would you type it?!?!!?

    I swear, this disturbs me more than everything else in the tweet.

  52. 52.

    Gravenstone

    January 6, 2018 at 11:22 am

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: Considering that Bannon felt that his “job” was to break everything, I don’t believe sympathy is in order.

  53. 53.

    Suzanne

    January 6, 2018 at 11:24 am

    @dmsilev:

    President Fredo Corleone.

    Ralph Lauren of Arabia isn’t president yet!

    I am desperately hoping that my copies will come today. I say “copies” because I ordered one for myself and anyone else in the household/friend circle who wants to read it…..but then SuzMom said she couldn’t bear to wait until I was done. So fingers crossed.

  54. 54.

    Elie

    January 6, 2018 at 11:35 am

    @Gelfling 545:
    We will have to fight for the country. That has already begun but will get more intense and spread across multiple fronts. We cannot accept the wholesale theft of our government by the corrupt abetted by foreign interests

  55. 55.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    January 6, 2018 at 11:37 am

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: You’re really going to take Trump’s tweet seriously as an honest recounting of events?

  56. 56.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    January 6, 2018 at 12:03 pm

    @Gravenstone: Yes, that’s what the bizarre part of it all is.

  57. 57.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    January 6, 2018 at 12:07 pm

    @Formerly disgruntled in Oregon: Politics is all about the narrative the politician creates. Trump created one of total nihilism around him. That’s why Wolff was able to wander around the West Wing and get everyone to bitch about everything on record, nothing matters in Trump world. Now, days after Trump has it thrown in Trump’s face about having his own staff not giving a shit can hurt Trump personally, what does Trump do; mock the people who did care as losers.

  58. 58.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    January 6, 2018 at 12:08 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: Bannon called for a tax of 44% on the Billionaires and Millionaires, and that got him tossed out of the Mercer family cookie jar. That was his real crime. As for Trump Don IL Wylie Coyote Super Genius

  59. 59.

    Brachiator

    January 6, 2018 at 12:19 pm

    @m.j.:

    I understand the Republican intelligentsia are meeting at Camp David this weekend.

    They are meeting with Trump to map out the next stage of their legislative agenda.

    GOP leadership ignores all the furor and pretends that everything is fine. Right now, they are all in for Trump, no matter what.

  60. 60.

    Aleta

    January 6, 2018 at 12:36 pm

    @dmsilev: It’s not personal Fredo. It’s strictly business. (Munchin dumping DJ out of the boat)

  61. 61.

    Aleta

    January 6, 2018 at 12:41 pm

    @mike in dc: VSG invented how to build walls out of hot air.

  62. 62.

    hellslittlestangel

    January 6, 2018 at 12:45 pm

    … and being, like, really smart.

    What gets me is the “like.” People talk like that, but who writes like that? Is he transcribing his own rambling, or, since it’s properly punctuated, is someone transcribing it for him?

  63. 63.

    Marcia

    January 7, 2018 at 4:06 pm

    Crooked Hillary Clinton also played these cards very hard and, as everyone knows, went down in flames.

    We all know you’ve got a permanent woody for Hillary, Donnie. Just admit it already and be done with it.

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