Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Radicalized white males who support Trump are pitching a tent in the abyss.

Bad people in a position to do bad things will do bad things because they are bad people. End of story.

“Perhaps I should have considered other options.” (head-desk)

🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵

“When somebody takes the time to draw up a playbook, they’re gonna use it.”

rich, arrogant assholes who equate luck with genius

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

Disagreements are healthy; personal attacks are not.

Innocent people do not delay justice.

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

Fight for a just cause, love your fellow man, live a good life.

Not rolling over. fuck you, make me.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

This must be what justice looks like, not vengeful, just peaceful exuberance.

Too often we hand the biggest microphones to the cynics and the critics who delight in declaring failure.

The arc of the moral universe does not bend itself. it is up to us to bend it.

Giving in to doom is how authoritarians win.

Let the trolls come, and then ignore them. that’s the worst thing you can do to a troll.

Nothing worth doing is easy.

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

The desire to stay informed is directly at odds with the need to not be constantly enraged.

Not so fun when the rabbit gets the gun, is it?

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White House adviser Stephen Miller was escorted off the set of CNN’s “State of the Union” on Sunday after a contentious interview with host Jake Tapper.

Two sources close to the situation told Business Insider that after the taping was done, Miller was asked to leave several times.

He ignored those requests and ultimately security was called and he was escorted out, the sources said.

CNN declined to comment.

The White House did not respond to Business Insider’s request for comment.

So anti-chain migration (whose family escaped/survived the Holocaust because America allowed them to chain migrate to the US) enthusiast Stephen Miller is as obnoxious off the air as he is on the air. Good to know.

This is also a good way to get arrested. And be on the receiving end of a restraining order. Creep gonna creepy.

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  2. 2.

    schrodingers_cat

    So anti-chain migration (whose family escaped/survived the Holocaust because America allowed them to chain migrate to the US)

    Chain migration is the framing used by anti-immigrant hate groups like Numbers USA, for family based immigration, I think we should not use their framing and dignify it.

  3. 3.

    Mary G

    Harper’s Bazaar has the transcript of Oprah’s speech at the Globes.

    The closing graph:

    In my career, what I’ve always tried my best to do, whether on television or through film, is to say something about how men and women really behave. To say how we experience shame, how we love and how we rage, how we fail, how we retreat, persevere, and how we overcome. I’ve interviewed and portrayed people who’ve withstood some of the ugliest things life can throw at you, but the one quality all of them seem to share is an ability to maintain hope for a brighter morning, even during our darkest nights. So I want all the girls watching here, now, to know that a new day is on the horizon! And when that new day finally dawns, it will be because of a lot of magnificent women, many of whom are right here in this room tonight, and some pretty phenomenal men, fighting hard to make sure that they become the leaders who take us to the time when nobody ever has to say ‘Me too’ again.”

  9. 9.

    matt

    Next time he’s there I’d wait with a spiked baseball bat to help escort him out.. pro bono.. CNN, let me know if you’re interested.

  18. 18.

    mai naem mobile

    I hope CNN has tape of it and they edit it to make it look the most embarrassing for Stephen Miller. Also I haven’t heard of Miller in the book. I wonder if he was smart enough not to talk to Wolff. He doesn’t come across as smart but who knows.

  20. 20.

    Ruckus

    @Patricia Kayden:
    Is it possible that there is a cult called Moronatism?
    Where by you get a job that pays way too much considering your lack of skills, that you have to talk in a certain fashion on TV, and that you constantly have to be wrong. IOW where you get paid to be a dick, and like it.

  22. 22.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    I noted at the dead end of the earlier Tapper thread how it is inconceivable to me that any fellow human could willfully bed down with Miller. The guy is a charmless toad.

  23. 23.

    Lyrebird

    @Ruckus: No, but what’s really surprising and surprisingly inspiring is that he didn’t get away with it.

    I went to high school w/plenty of Republican debate-team types, and they all made me nervous, because they specifically used their developing verbal sparring skills to overpower others, not to outsmart them.

    Under Bush/Cheney, the only press person I remember really pushing back against all the catapulting of propaganda was Colbert’s performance at the whatsit dinner. Color me gobsmacked to find Don Lemon and even more so Jake Tapper to be at the forefront of journalists pushing back against the autocrats. The former press secretary too, I’m blanking on her name.

    Stephen Miller is someone I would walk out of an elevator or room to avoid just based on those dead eyes alone. I am glad he didn’t get away with his domineering behavior at least that once.

  24. 24.

    NotMax

    Haven’t been online much so don’t know if already mentioned or not.

    An Iranian oil tanker collided with a bulk freighter and caught fire off China’s east coast, leaving the tanker’s entire crew of 32 missing and causing it to spill oil into the sea, authorities said Sunday.
    [snip]
    State-run China Central Television reported Sunday evening that the tanker was still floating and burning, and that oil was visible in the water.

    It was not clear, however, whether the tanker was still spilling oil. The size of the oil slick caused by the accident also was not known. Source

  31. 31.

    Ruckus

    @Lyrebird:
    Is it possible that at least some of our journalists are learning to actually do their jobs? At least the ones we think they should be doing because we purchase all the crap they advertise at all the places they advertise on TV? We do have to remember that if you aren’t paying for it you are the product.

  37. 37.

    Lyrebird

    @Ruckus: We live in hope, right?

    There are lots of things that have been as bad as I’d feared a year ago, but I think it’s important to notice those occasional good surprises, like spine development among journalists.

  38. 38.

    eemom

    Another thing I never watch is republicans on teevee, but I clicked on that clip just to see Tapper shut him up. It was good, but Tapper should have done it sooner.

    That neo-Goebbels ultra creep has a creepily dead look in his eyes.

  40. 40.

    lamh36

    @eemom: I always MUTE the sound whenever Chump or anyone of em are on my TV. I’ll leave on Closed Captions, but I’d rather avoid having any of their speaking voices in my head…ugh

  41. 41.

    Ruckus

    @Lyrebird:
    It may also be possible that they can actually see the way the wind is blowing and want to get out in front of it before it destroys them.

  43. 43.

    Adam L Silverman

    @NotMax: That’s terrible. There’s probably a Coast Guard training float in the area working with partner nations. They will most likely be directed to site to assist. They may also pull a Marine float from either Japan or Australia to assist.

  45. 45.

    mai naem mobile

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: I want to read this book so bad. I’ve called a few book stores and they’re saying 2 to 4 weeks. I can’t believe the publisher didn’t print enough books, and I can’t believe in this day, the can’t push up the new printing to less than 10 days.

  46. 46.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Feebog: I got it as an ebook the other night. I haven’t gotten far enough yet to get to the parts about him. Wolff writes well, regardless of what you might think about him. I have his Murdoch biography.

  48. 48.

    Adam L Silverman

    @NotMax: Correct. They went through a change in ownership a while back. This is not surprising. I’m also sure that by the time the newspapers were comfortable reporting this, Mueller had already known about it.

  49. 49.

    Adam L Silverman

    @mai naem mobile: I don’t think the publisher was expecting the President to be their best salesperson.

    If you’ve got a tablet or ereader, you can get it as ebook on both iBooks and Kindle right now.

  51. 51.

    No Drought No More

    Remember the scene when DeNiro pointedly told the security guards to escort the bonehead cowboy off the premises who had refused to take his feet off the gambling table in the movie Casino? In the old days, security guards everywhere could indeed get away with occasionally opening an exit door with the head of a schmuck, just like in the movie. But no one can fairly blame MSNBC security for refusing to do that with Miller today. Nowadays there are just too many damn cameras everywhere to risk it, and more’s the pity in this instance..

  52. 52.

    debbie

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I don’t think the publisher was expecting the President to be their best salesperson.

    Oh, I’m sure the publisher (Holt), being in NYC, knew that ahead of time. They released the book four days earlier than planned, and had it hit the streets as planned, there would have been more stock. The presses are rolling as we speak!

  54. 54.

    Adam L Silverman

    @No Drought No More: I did that once when working as a cooler and trying to get an obnoxious drunk guy into a taxi. I basically bounced the door off of him when I opened it to pour him into the taxi and wasn’t all too careful about his head and the top of the cab either.

    Ahhh, the folly of youth.

  56. 56.

    NotMax

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Was at one time dragooned into helping lace a boil at the base of a horse’s tail.

    Walked him outside and tethered him. Procedure (as recommended by a vet) was to first blindfold the horse. Which freaked him out, causing him to try to leap forward, bonking his head solidly into the side of the barn.

    Dazed him sufficiently that we could continue and finish up without further ado.

  59. 59.

    Adam L Silverman

    And, apparently, Wikileaks has decided it wants to be sued for copyright violations:

  62. 62.

    Lyrebird

    @Ruckus:

    It may also be possible that they can actually see the way the wind is blowing …

    No doubt, but back in those awful primaries, it seemed like plenty of people were content to stay silent while it was just Orangemandias trying to send a mob against Katy Tur, plus Joy Reid speaking truth to the confused and not necessarily getting a lot of traction.

    Who knows – everything I know about cable news I learn from reading here! and RawStory because I’m hooked and Wonkette because we all need a laugh.

    Speaking of:

    @NotMax: Snort! (LOL)

  63. 63.

    Ruckus

    @Adam L Silverman:
    I never had to do that in the shore patrol. But then SP is a bit closer to LE than a bouncer/cooler. I did threaten one guy with getting to spend his liberty time in my jail and captains mast. He thought better of it and did as requested. All nice and polite, no swearing, no nightstick action. Only guy who told me no when asked to do or not do something reasonable and in a reasonable manner.

  69. 69.

    WaterGirl

    Heading for bed, but my thoughts are turning to tomorrow. Is that when we find out what treasonous things were being discussed this weekend at Camp David?

    We can only hope that at least one person in that crowd is what Preet calls “a cooperator”, although I am certain that they probably all had to leave all electronic devices at the door.

    Good night.

  70. 70.

    Ruckus

    @Adam L Silverman:
    My guy walked out of the EM club at a major naval station and puked all over the stairs. Told him to go get a bucket and mop and clean it up. His response was “Fuck you, you do it.” Your puke, you clean. “Fuck You.” OK but you are spending tonight in my jail and then captains mast. How do you think that will go over with your captain? “I’ll go get a bucket and mop.” I thanked him when he was done and took the bucket/mop back and stowed clean and properly. Also told him next time aim for the bushes. He thought that was reasonable advice.

  71. 71.

    Chet Murthy

    what Preet calls “a cooperator”

    OT, but had to say: I listened to one of his podcasts today (the one with Hasan Minhaj) and he’s a witty, funny guy. Or maybe it was just that Hasan made him so, but even his monologue, and Q&A before the interview, was funny. Witty, funny guy. The *first* time I’ve *ever* listened to a podcast all the way thru.

  73. 73.

    WaterGirl

    @Chet Murthy: I think he is clever and witty and funny and he has a great voice. The only ones I haven’t liked, and I have listened to them all, are the two most recent – one with Maggie H. and the one that with Tina Brown. But I didn’t like those because of who he was interviewing.

  74. 74.

    Yarrow

    @Adam L Silverman: From all accounts he was already a dick in high school. She’s probably off by about four years. It was a middle school dance when he was 12 and some girl turned him down when he asked her to dance.

  76. 76.

    AnotherBruce

    @Yarrow: Makes sense, I think all of the people in the Trump administration have the emotional maturity of a 12 year old.

  78. 78.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’m not talking about Ruckus, I’m talking about the drunk guy I was less than careful with when putting in a taxi.

    I’ve no problems with Ruckus.

  83. 83.

    eemom

    @mai naem mobile:

    I ordered it Thursday night from the DC bookstore Kramerbooks; it was already sold out there and everywhere else, but I thought I’d have a better chance at Kramer because fewer people would order there than from Amazon, etc. The next day I got an e-mail from the store saying they were getting a new shipment Monday and they would hold one for me at the store until 5 pm.

    So, even though I almost never go into the city anymore because I almost always work at home, tomorrow I am going to take billable time out from my day, drag my ass down there through God knows what traffic, find a nonexistent parking space on some narrow Dupont Circle side street, and score my copy. All so I can spend more time that I don’t have reading about a maniacal “president” and his gang of murderers and thieves. It strikes me that I have some kind of illness.

  84. 84.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Calouste: Mnuchin has a lot of money. Also, orders from the Reptiliod Invasion Force Overcommander to breed hybrids. You do the math.

  86. 86.

    Adam L Silverman

    @clay: I have no idea. Moreover, whatever they claim they supposedly stand for and are doing is just BS for what they actually do, which is front for Russian intelligence services.

  87. 87.

    Yarrow

    Stephen Miller has a nervous head twist and shoulder twitch. He did it so many times in that interview. His aggressive tone may have made him seem somewhat confident but that body language gave away the game. He’s scared.

  91. 91.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Yutsano: Not that I’m aware of. I think the Reptiliod scientists are having trouble blending the two different forms of DNA.

  94. 94.

    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    A number of flu-suffering jackals have mentioned in recent threads the OTC medications that brought them some relief. I know a couple of cough remedies were named, but I can’t remember which ones – anybody? My 14-year-old son appears to be coming down with it. The poor kid has a fever and aches and is coughing his lungs up.

  95. 95.

    clay

    @Adam L Silverman: Yeah, but being a Russian front without obviously being a Russian front seems like it would easier if they pretended to stick to some sort of principles. But posting a copy of a widely available commercial book doesn’t fit anywhere with “radical government transparency organization.” I was just wondering if they even gave a nominal attempt at squaring that circle.

    Whatever. I hope the publisher sues the shit out of them.

  96. 96.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: If I have the flu, then I go with Coracedin HBP for flu and sinus. And Mucinex. If its a cold, then the Coracedin HBP for a cold and Mucinex. But read the ingredients so you’re not doubling up on certain ingredients between the two.

  97. 97.

    SFBayAreaGal

    When I was a teenager we lived 3 blocks away from Dan Hicks and the Hot Licks. My brother was allowed to sit in on their practice sessions.

  98. 98.

    1000 flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)

    @schrodingers_cat: Back in the 1850s, this was how my great-great-grandfather brought his wife, their two children, and his nephews to the US. I see no argument against extending the same welcome the US extended to the family of a South German tradesman in the Nineteenth Century to immigrants in the Twenty-first that isn’t mired in one flavor of bigotry or another.

    Since conservatives want to look back to a “better” time, maybe I should say “If it was good enough for my great-great-grandpa, it’s good enough for anyone!”

  99. 99.

    Mike J

    Richard Kadrey @Richard_Kadrey 3h
    I understand completely. I once refused to leave a Hot Topic when they claimed they didn’t have any Marilyn Manson onesies in my size and I knew they totally did.

  101. 101.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    If this blog isn’t full of Oprah-bots in 24 hours, I’ll be extremely disappointed.

  102. 102.

    trollhattan

    @Yarrow:
    A video floating around has Miller giving a campaign speech for some HS office in which he bitches about students being directed to clean up after themselves because that’s what the JANITORS are for.

    A walking corpse, he and Trump are soulmates.

  103. 103.

    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    @Adam L Silverman: Thanks! I’m hoping it’s a cold, but it’s not looking good. Grr. He has a daylong Mitzvah Corps project scheduled with his class at a homeless shelter tomorrow, and he was really looking forward to it, but there’s no way I’m going to unleash him on a vulnerable population in crowded conditions even if that’s “all” it is.

  105. 105.

    trollhattan

    @SFBayAreaGal:
    A few years ago one of the resident jackals (don’t recall who) said he had dated one of the lickettes. Dan Hicks was the Bay Area, miss him a lot.

  107. 107.

    Tim C.

    @schrodingers_cat: Just to throw this out there, “Chain Migration” is the term that’s been used to describe in academic settings the reason why different ethnic groups cluster in locations with others that share the same language, culture values and all that. If you were migrating to the US from Norway in the 19th century for example, you weren’t going to Fargo for the weather. What’s really annoying to a pendant like me is that the term now is being used by the idiot-right to describe the fact that US immigration policy wants to allow the families of people who are already here join those who are here legally already.

    *spits in derision*

  108. 108.

    Yarrow

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: If it’s within 48 hours check with the doctor to see if he can get a Tamiflu prescription. I don’t know if they prescribe it for kids. If he’s been sick longer than that it doesn’t really do any good. Won’t stop the flu but will lessen symptoms.

    Otherwise, over the counter cough medications can help. An expectorant to thin the mucous so when he does cough it’s more “productive” and a suppressant to keep the cough more under the control. There are a bunch of brands.

  109. 109.

    Yutsano

    @Adam L Silverman: Personally too lazy to Google it right now. But he could be one of those who can’t be bothered to deal with spawn. And no way in Hades would Wife #3 put up with pregnancy no matter how good the money is.

  111. 111.

    lamh36

    I’m off to bed juicers…before i go do yourselves a favor a read about the woman Oprah talked about in her Globes speech and how her story was integral motivational part in the Civil Rghts movement, particularly as it pertains to the legacy of Rosa Parks…

    @avaThis woman is not a footnote in history. Her 1944 rape by white thugs is a CRITICAL part of the fight for civil rights in America. Read her story please. And know her name. Mrs. Recy Taylor. A beautiful warrior. May she rest in peace and power.

    Recy Taylor, Who Fought for Justice After 1944 Rape, Dies at 97 https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/29/obituaries/recy-taylor-alabama-rape-victim-dead.html

  112. 112.

    1000 flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: I second the Mucinex recommendation. There are also generics available; the active ingredient is guaifenesin. This is the expectorant that thins out the mucus. In case of a dire, incessant cough, you’d want a cough suppressant as well; Dextromethoran is king of the OTC ingredients there.

    Coricidan is great stuff, but as Adam notes, be wary of doubling up on things like Acetominophen or the NSAIDs.

  113. 113.

    frosty

    @Yarrow: Hell, Susan Billett turned me down for a dance in Jr High but she was out of my league and I knew it. Plenty of others said yes. If that’s what’s pushing his buttons, then fuckem (TM efg)

  114. 114.

    frosty

    @eemom:

    It strikes me that I have some kind of illness.

    LOL, I feel your pain about downtown DC and yes, you have an illness afflicting a majority of the country. Enjoy the book.

    PS Can’t find a Metro ride to at least avoid the parking hassle?

  118. 118.

    Suzanne

    Oprah was pretty damn awesome tonight.
    I hope it matters. I hope the Wolff book matters. I hope this is all adding up to something.

  123. 123.

    opiejeanne

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: In descending order of usefulness for me: Robitussin, Nyquil, Mucinex. I’m also using an OTC nasal spray, Flonase and my asthma inhaler because at times it has felt like a massive asthma attack.

    I don’t know if this is the flu or just a very nasty cold, but I’ve been sick since Christmas Eve and I’m damned tired of it. I have been to the doctor twice and the last time she prescribed Robitussin with Codeine, which helped me sleep but I’d forgotten just why I shouldn’t have codeine at all: it’s like the worst hangover possible including bed-spins.

  124. 124.

    opiejeanne

    @1000 flouncing lurkers (was fidelio): My great grandfather and two brothers traveled to Chicago from Toronto in 1862. His father was from Ireland (although that was suppressed within the Canadian part of the family), his mother was John Freeman’s granddaughter (see: Battle of Saratoga).
    I don’t think anyone ever asked him for papers. I’m pretty sure he was never naturalized, and I just realized that I don’t know if he was registered to vote but the stories I’ve heard of the old boy make me think he probably did.

  125. 125.

    Robert Sneddon

    @opiejeanne: Codeine is a cough suppressant as well as a pain control med. Fortunately I can buy it over-the-counter here in the UK, compounded with ibuprofen or paracetamol. Use it for night times to get some sleep but coughing is necessary to get thick crud out of your lungs and bronchial tubes so cut it out during the day.

    The other thing that I use codeine for is migraines, for me it’s the only pain-killer that will stop one in its tracks.

  128. 128.

    laura

    @trollhattan: my mom worked with a lickette who had to give up the gig when her pregnancy prevented her from fitting into a costume that was either a barrel or a cigar.
    I always liked spotting him at the city center in Mill Valley on Dipsea day, loafing around and casting aspersions at the Morris Dancers.

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