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You are here: Home / Open Threads / The endless pettiness of Trump…

The endless pettiness of Trump…

by Betty Cracker|  January 29, 20184:24 pm| 120 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity, Assholes

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Looks like stories are dropping today following the news about McCabe. Here’s an excerpt of a piece NBC News just published:

WASHINGTON — The day after President Donald Trump fired James Comey, he became so furious watching television footage of the ousted FBI director boarding a government-funded plane from Los Angeles back to Washington, D.C. that he called the bureau’s acting director, Andrew McCabe, to vent, according to multiple people familiar with the phone call.

Trump demanded to know why Comey was allowed to fly on an FBI plane after he had been fired, these people said. McCabe told the president he hadn’t been asked to authorize Comey’s flight, but if anyone had asked, he would have approved it, three people familiar with the call recounted to NBC News.

The president was silent for a moment and then turned on McCabe, suggesting he ask his wife how it feels to be a loser — an apparent reference to a failed campaign for state office in Virginia that McCabe’s wife made in 2015.

McCabe replied: “OK, sir.” Trump then hung up the phone…

The phone call between Trump and McCabe after Comey’s firing last May underscores the president’s continued fixation on where the loyalties of people around him may lie and his frustration with autonomous arms of the government — particularly ones involved in the Russia investigation. It’s also emblematic of his early and persistent distrust of top Justice Department officials.

The combination of those sentiments whipped the president into such a fury over Comey last year that he wanted his firing to abruptly strip him of any trappings that come with the office and leave him across the country scrambling to find his own way home.

The incompetence, demagoguery, etc., aside, Trump is just a garbage human being on a personal level — a vindictive dickhead. Congressman Ted Lieu, on the other hand, is awesome:

As a Member of the House Judiciary Committee, I read the partisan, classified Nunes House Intel memo. I can’t talk about it. However, here’s an analogy.

Remember Geraldo Rivera and the infamous Mystery of Al Capone’s Vaults? It’s like that, but Geraldo Rivera has more integrity.

— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) January 29, 2018

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  1. 1.

    Mike in DC

    January 29, 2018 at 4:28 pm

    Noteworthy that he said this over the phone rather than in person. Some people really need the shit kicked out of them at least once in life to understand that they, too, are held accountable for their words and actions.

  2. 2.

    clay

    January 29, 2018 at 4:29 pm

    Trump demanded to know why Comey was allowed to fly on an FBI plane after he had been fired, these people said.

    Because you were too cowardly to fire him face-to-face, so you waited until he was out of town on FBI business. After that, he certainly has a right to not be stranded in a different city with no means of getting home. You lousy piece of shit.

  3. 3.

    dmsilev

    January 29, 2018 at 4:30 pm

    For a guy who built his reputation on the phrase “you’re fired”, Trump is remarkably bad at it.

  4. 4.

    zhena gogolia

    January 29, 2018 at 4:34 pm

    WHAT CAN WE DO TO STOP THESE PEOPLE????

  5. 5.

    tobie

    January 29, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    Pettiness runs in the Trump blood. Here’s Don Jr. regarding McCabe’s eligibility for retirement:

    So they will keep him on till then despite all this to make sure the American tax payer is stuck paying him for the rest of his life?

    I have never known more vile people than the Trumps.

  6. 6.

    a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)

    January 29, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    The Al Capone’s Vault bit was fun to watch, harmless, and provided a good laugh. I wish we could say the same of Nunes’s memo.

  7. 7.

    Bill Arnold

    January 29, 2018 at 4:36 pm

    Remember Geraldo Rivera and the infamous Mystery of Al Capone’s Vaults? It’s like that, but Geraldo Rivera has more integrity.

    Ted Lieu has some talent for this sort of thing.

  8. 8.

    Betty Cracker

    January 29, 2018 at 4:37 pm

    I just…

    Calling McCabe’s wife a loser is just how he talks https://t.co/hUs18Z9aGe

    — Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 29, 2018

  9. 9.

    Corner Stone

    January 29, 2018 at 4:38 pm

    @clay: Trump told Lester Holt he was going to fire Comey, “knowing there was no good time to do it”. Apparently the right time was when he was on the complete opposite coast doing a recruiting gig for the FBI.

  10. 10.

    Waratah

    January 29, 2018 at 4:39 pm

    I am so glad I can read the names you call him Betty, it makes me feel better.

  11. 11.

    patrick II

    January 29, 2018 at 4:41 pm

    Maggie Haberman:

    Calling McCabe’s wife a loser is just how he talks

    And calling you an embarrassing sycophant is just how I talk.

  12. 12.

    Corner Stone

    January 29, 2018 at 4:43 pm

    And wtf is Trump doing calling the FBI directly?

  13. 13.

    patrick II

    January 29, 2018 at 4:43 pm

    Looks like McCabe got in his first “I am no longer a government employee” punch in.

  14. 14.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 29, 2018 at 4:43 pm

    @Betty Cracker: WH should hire her and give her SHS job.

  15. 15.

    Mike in DC

    January 29, 2018 at 4:45 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Think she was trying for sarcasm but missed the mark.

  16. 16.

    aimai

    January 29, 2018 at 4:45 pm

    I love Ted Lieu. Imma gonna send him some money for that one.

  17. 17.

    Betty Cracker

    January 29, 2018 at 4:45 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: I’m honestly wondering if she’s being sarcastic.

  18. 18.

    Corner Stone

    January 29, 2018 at 4:45 pm

    @patrick II: Some on that twit stream are suggesting MAGA Habs is simply pre-parroting what GOP and Trump defenders will be saying to excuse it away in the coming days.
    IMO, when you shoot your credibility in the face, over and over, I think you have lost the right to try deep sarcasm about your meal ticket.

  19. 19.

    jacy

    January 29, 2018 at 4:46 pm

    I kind of love Ted Lieu.

    And somebody needs to kick the shit out of Trump and his spawn. Literally. Repeatedly. On a loop for eternity. GAH.

  20. 20.

    some guy

    January 29, 2018 at 4:46 pm

    Haberman is a real piece of shit. Enabler, sycophant, tool.

  21. 21.

    schrodingers_cat

    January 29, 2018 at 4:47 pm

    @Betty Cracker: When one spends their professional life giving T rhetorical (AFAIK) blow jobs that doesn’t sound like sarcasm.

  22. 22.

    Mike in NC

    January 29, 2018 at 4:47 pm

    Trump demanded to know why Comey was allowed to fly on an FBI plane after he had been fired, these people said.

    The answer he should have gotten was, “Did you expect him to walk home, you fat fuck?”

  23. 23.

    laura

    January 29, 2018 at 4:47 pm

    @Bill Arnold: Call the burn unit!
    Also, President Shithole has as much respect for the Constitution as he does for the Office. He is literally incapable of thinking about anything other than himself.

  24. 24.

    Humdog

    January 29, 2018 at 4:47 pm

    Another reason 80+% of R’s say he is a good role model for children. You know, send an employee out on company biz, fire him and leave him stranded. All the best people do this!

  25. 25.

    T S

    January 29, 2018 at 4:48 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I’m sure Maggie’s gotten plenty of responses along the lines of “hey, and THIS is just how I talk…[string of expletives here]…Alright?”

  26. 26.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    January 29, 2018 at 4:48 pm

    @Mike in DC:
    I could totally see that. She’s too much of a dweeb to pull off deadpan snark.

  27. 27.

    KickBoxBanana

    January 29, 2018 at 4:49 pm

    Sheezus. No wonder he’s quitting. Who wants to put up with that BS. What a horrible thing to say to someone. For anyone anywhere, any boss. Anything! Just a horrible shitweasel thing to say.

  28. 28.

    jharp

    January 29, 2018 at 4:49 pm

    Ted Lieu is my new favorite Congressman.

    Fucking awesome tweet, Congressman Lieu.

  29. 29.

    JustRuss

    January 29, 2018 at 4:50 pm

    For my mental health, I’m going to focus on Lieu’s awesomeness and pretend Haberman doesn’t exist. I suggest the Times try the latter.

  30. 30.

    The Moar You Know

    January 29, 2018 at 4:50 pm

    I posted this last thread but it bears repeating: Trump has a singular talent. A rare one and it’s amazing. He gets everyone around him to instantly forgo their dignity.

    Because if he had said what he said to McCabe about his wife to me about MY wife, my response would have not been “yes, sir.”

  31. 31.

    Corner Stone

    January 29, 2018 at 4:50 pm

    @Humdog: Didn’t Romney cancel all campaign credit cards like one minute after he lost the election? All the staff were stranded if I remember the details correctly.

  32. 32.

    JDM

    January 29, 2018 at 4:50 pm

    @dmsilev: he’s bad at most everything.

    As for “it’s just how he talks”, yes indeed, but that doesn’t work as the excuse you think it is, Maggie, because he talks like a petty whiner.

  33. 33.

    MisterForkbeard

    January 29, 2018 at 4:51 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Maybe it should occur to Haberman that “if this guy talks like this all the time, maybe he’s just a gigantic asshole”? Why choose to TRY and defend this kind of behavior?

  34. 34.

    Tom

    January 29, 2018 at 4:51 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Ah yes, Maggie Haberman, the Judith Miller of our time.

  35. 35.

    rikyrah

    January 29, 2018 at 4:53 pm

    Burn them, Congressman Lieu

  36. 36.

    Humdog

    January 29, 2018 at 4:54 pm

    @Corner Stone: I think you are correct. Didn’t Shitstain leave Priebus or someone stranded off Air Force One as well? What a vulgar conman.

  37. 37.

    dmsilev

    January 29, 2018 at 4:54 pm

    @Betty Cracker: It’s true. However, Haberman refuses to make the next logical step, which is that he talks like an asshole because he is an asshole.

  38. 38.

    Frankensteinbeck

    January 29, 2018 at 4:54 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Calling McCabe’s wife a loser is just how he talks

    Certainly true. He is always, consistently, and without bothering to hide it a complete mean-spirited asshole. It’s a major reason why Republicans support him.

  39. 39.

    HypersphericalCow

    January 29, 2018 at 4:54 pm

    @Corner Stone: Yep, there were people who had their cards canceled as they were in their cabs on the way back home.

  40. 40.

    Gelfling 545

    January 29, 2018 at 4:55 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Yeah. We know. He talks like an a$$hole because he is one.

  41. 41.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    January 29, 2018 at 4:56 pm

    @The Moar You Know:
    Keep in mind, as much of an asshole Trump is, he’s still the president with SS protection. If you threatened him, even over the phone, he would not hesitate to turn your life upside down for having the temerity to talk back to him. He’s an extremely petty person, so McCabe did the best he could given circumstances.

  42. 42.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    January 29, 2018 at 4:57 pm

    I can see why Trump is so paranoid about his staff if this is the way he treats them. Likely he constantly being robed blind by his employees or they just merely deliberately make bad decisions to lose him money in revenge.

    The hilarious bit is Trump is faced with getting charged with treason in revenge for Comey and Trump still doesn’t get it.

  43. 43.

    rikyrah

    January 29, 2018 at 4:57 pm

    @some guy:

    Haberman is a real piece of shit. Enabler, sycophant, tool.

    Everytime I see her garbage, makes me even happier that Wolff scooped her and made her book a piece of worthless trash.

  44. 44.

    dmsilev

    January 29, 2018 at 4:58 pm

    @Corner Stone: My favorite reply in that thread was this:

    And he sexually assaulted the women. It’s just how he flirts.

  45. 45.

    Manyakitty

    January 29, 2018 at 5:02 pm

    @Mike in DC: I’m anti-violence as a rule, but in this case, I want to throw the first punch, right at his stupid sphincter mouth.

  46. 46.

    rikyrah

    January 29, 2018 at 5:04 pm

    Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) backed out of an interview with Seven Days Monday morning after the newspaper refused to accept conditions his staff attempted to set. The senator then accused a Seven Days reporter of being a “gossip columnist.”

    A spokesman for Sanders, Daniel McLean, called the reporter Sunday evening to offer up an interview with his boss the next morning. McLean said Sanders could make time for a brief interview after appearing at a press conference at Burlington International Airport and before boarding a plane to Washington, D.C.

    But McLean made clear that two subjects would be off the table: Sanders, the spokesman said, was not interested in answering questions about “political gossip” nor about the senator’s family. He did not elaborate on either condition. (Sanders’ wife, Jane O’Meara Sanders, has been under scrutiny by federal prosecutors over her role leading the now-defunct Burlington college. His stepdaughter, Carina Driscoll, is running for mayor of Burlington.)

    The reporter informed McLean that Seven Days does not allow politicians to set such restrictions in exchange for access. He also noted that it would be impossible to ask substantive, policy-oriented questions in such a brief exchange.

  47. 47.

    Manyakitty

    January 29, 2018 at 5:05 pm

    @dmsilev: dayum

  48. 48.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    January 29, 2018 at 5:06 pm

    Can anybody even imagine President Obama saying something like this to anybody?

  49. 49.

    Manyakitty

    January 29, 2018 at 5:07 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): No, because that’s not how decent people behave.

  50. 50.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 29, 2018 at 5:07 pm

    @Corner Stone:
    @Humdog:
    @HypersphericalCow:

    Okay, be fair, you guys. I distinctly remember when Toby, Josh and Donna got stranded in Indiana because Bartlet’s campaign motorcade left without them. See? DemocRATS do it too!

  51. 51.

    Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)

    January 29, 2018 at 5:07 pm

    @Betty Cracker: What does “just” mean in that Haberman quote? Is it supposed to excuse him for talking this way?

  52. 52.

    Millard Filmore

    January 29, 2018 at 5:09 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:

    If you threatened him, even over the phone, he would not hesitate to turn your life upside down for having the temerity to talk back to him.

    How about this threat: “The courts will tell the USA exactly what a presidential NDA is worth.”

  53. 53.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    January 29, 2018 at 5:10 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: One doesn’t need too; Come 2021 Trump is back to being a private citizen with a lot of powerful enemies and he’s not like say Nixon with a lot of friends in the GOP to protect him. His is and his family’s life are going to be hell.

  54. 54.

    trollhattan

    January 29, 2018 at 5:12 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    Heh. But of course it was plot service in order for John Candy to pick them up to drive in the snow, leading to hijinks!

  55. 55.

    clay

    January 29, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Trump told Lester Holt he was going to fire Comey, “knowing there was no good time to do it”.

    You can always tell when the Trump team gets a criticism that they feel a need to respond to, because Trump will try to insert justifications into his speech for those criticisms, no matter how little sense it makes.

    For instance, why insert “knowing there was no good time to do it”? Did Holt ask about that? No. Did it make his answer clearer or more informative? No, the opposite.

    He inserted it because a lot of talking heads were saying at the time, “The President has a right to fire the FBI director, but doing so now makes him look like he’s trying to obstruct the Russia investigation,” or “If he was going to fire Comey for cause, why didn’t he do it right after the inauguration?”

    So Trump felt he needed to answer these criticisms: “there was no good time”. Pretty weak. There may not have been a good time, but there was absolutely a bad time, and he picked the worst one.

    Anyway, he does this all the time, and it’s pretty easy to recognize once you realize what he’s doing.

  56. 56.

    Corner Stone

    January 29, 2018 at 5:14 pm

    @trollhattan: Uncle Buck came to save them?

  57. 57.

    Aleta

    January 29, 2018 at 5:15 pm

    @Betty Cracker: The old ‘just locker room talk’ reasoning huh. Because locker room slurs and dominance rituals are the standard we follow for professional behavior, as described in the Republican manual.

  58. 58.

    trollhattan

    January 29, 2018 at 5:20 pm

    @Corner Stone:
    Del Griffith!

  59. 59.

    Dave

    January 29, 2018 at 5:20 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): She was being sarcastic. That her public work and behavior has given people good reason to take her statement at face value…. Well it doesn’t matter what those of us outside her little Versailles Court think now does it?

  60. 60.

    Aleta

    January 29, 2018 at 5:20 pm

    What I want to know:
    DC law allows one party to record conversations without the other person’s knowledge, I read. Unless there’s some other provision, guys like McCabe and the Senators, etc can record every conversation they have with Trump, Sessions, etc. Are they?

  61. 61.

    Tokyokie

    January 29, 2018 at 5:22 pm

    @tobie: I sincerely hope that the American taxpayers are stuck with providing Uday and Qusay three squares a day for the rest of their lives in the Colorado Supermax.

  62. 62.

    Jack the Second

    January 29, 2018 at 5:26 pm

    @jacy: I personally blame Jeb Bush for all of this.

    With all the things Trump said about the other candidates and their wives during the debates, it would not have been out of place for one of them to walk over and deck ‘im. And whoever did so would have won the nomination, and the next Republican primary would have been WAY more interesting.

  63. 63.

    MisterForkbeard

    January 29, 2018 at 5:26 pm

    @Aleta: Over the phone, maybe. But apparently you’re searched before going into a meeting with the president, so in-person would be hard to do.

  64. 64.

    jurassicpork

    January 29, 2018 at 5:27 pm

    I almost forgot. It’s my 13th blogging anniversary and here’s what i have to say about it.

  65. 65.

    Kay

    January 29, 2018 at 5:29 pm

    Jay Rosen‏Verified account
    @jayrosen_nyu
    Follow Follow @jayrosen_nyu
    More
    Wow. Jeffrey Toobin says, ‘I regret my role’ in false equivalence coverage of HRC during the 2016 campaign.

    Says the coverage was “misleading”. Which it was. It’s just not that difficult to admit a mistake.

  66. 66.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 29, 2018 at 5:31 pm

    No quarter for Donald or his family.

    None.

  67. 67.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 29, 2018 at 5:32 pm

    @Tokyokie: Yup. For one thing, we won’t see them on Twitter again.

  68. 68.

    eric

    January 29, 2018 at 5:32 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: unless drawn first.

  69. 69.

    Jay S

    January 29, 2018 at 5:33 pm

    Has anyone done a SoTU Trump troll bingo card yet for what individuals, institutions and norms he will attack?
    I remember speculating that he wouldn’t do it in person, giving it a 30% probability I think, now that is down to less than 5% that he won’t do it live. So what are the odds of going radically off script? Or better that he won’t? Any bets on the number of falsehoods stated as fact? I’d say 30 provable falsehoods are likely.

  70. 70.

    Corner Stone

    January 29, 2018 at 5:35 pm

    @eric:

    unless drawn first

    Like one of Jack’s French girls?

  71. 71.

    Brachiator

    January 29, 2018 at 5:36 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    One doesn’t need too; Come 2021 Trump is back to being a private citizen with a lot of powerful enemies and he’s not like say Nixon with a lot of friends in the GOP to protect him.

    Nixon was a strange, paranoid little man whose impeachment embarrassed the Republican Party, and who was never described as someone who was likeable or who had many close friends. And still he got respect and protection after leaving the office in disgrace.

    Trump has earned the undying gratitude of the GOP and the oligarchs for delivering the biggest and juiciest tax cut in years. He will get love and protection all the days of his life.

  72. 72.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 29, 2018 at 5:36 pm

    Natasha Bertrand‏Verified account @ NatashaBertrand
    Per Bloomberg, John Kelly has been calling DOJ officials to “lecture them on the White House’s expectations…He has taken to ending such conversations with a disclaimer that the White House isn’t expecting officials to do anything illegal or unethical.”

    Matthew Miller @ matthewamiller
    Kelly is dangerously close to interfering with an investigation into the president here. These conversations are usually channeled thru the WH counsel. Interesting McGahn isn’t involved.

  73. 73.

    Jay S

    January 29, 2018 at 5:38 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I read the tweet as confirmation that he could well have said that. But it could be sarcasm or minimization. Tweets are often inscrutable.

  74. 74.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 29, 2018 at 5:38 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Oh, what nonsense. Donald has no problem with illegal or unethical, because he has no moral compass to speak of, not even a broken one.

  75. 75.

    Tenar Arha

    January 29, 2018 at 5:43 pm

    @Betty Cracker: @Betty Cracker: Yep. Based on her responses to getting batted around, yeah, she intended sarcasm. (But of course, she lost the privileges of irony & sarcasm long ago acting as the primary stenographer for the Dolt).

    ETA Dang, I’m not even original in my snark!

  76. 76.

    Betty Cracker

    January 29, 2018 at 5:43 pm

    @jurassicpork: jurassicSPAM!

  77. 77.

    MJS

    January 29, 2018 at 5:45 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: It would be nice to see that Nazi Kelly caught up in this, too.

  78. 78.

    LanceThruster

    January 29, 2018 at 5:46 pm

    @jurassicpork:

    It always saddened me the constant financial difficulties you endure. Sadly, I am in a somewhat similar boat. I wish you well, JP.

  79. 79.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 29, 2018 at 5:47 pm

    Just got in the car to run out and grab a few groceries and had MSNBC audio on SiriusXM. Whoever is hosting MTP Daily said that it had just come to notice that the visitor tickets for tomorrow’s SOTU all read:

    STATE OF THE UNIOM

    Only the best people….

    (To be fair, greatly as it pains me: the fuckup is apparently the responsibility of the Sergeant at Arms’ office, not the WH. But still worthy of laughing and pointing.)

  80. 80.

    NotMax

    January 29, 2018 at 5:47 pm

    OT.

    Rarely keep milk in the house. Needed some for a recipe wanted to try out for potato bread, however. Both amazed that it is there at all and amused that it is deemed necessary by a disclaimer printed on the top of the carton: “Cream on the top is normal.”

  81. 81.

    NotMax

    January 29, 2018 at 5:49 pm

    @Betty Cracker

    Yup. 13 years seems too short a span to be on the cusp of losing his house 233 times.

    ;)

  82. 82.

    hedgehog the occasional commenter

    January 29, 2018 at 5:50 pm

    @Betty Cracker: /headdesk/
    I can’t even…..

  83. 83.

    dollared

    January 29, 2018 at 5:52 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: Actually, Trump will be able to name his price for the political reality show he will have on ABC and his commentary show on Fox. And maybe for once his merchandise will sell. There are still 40 million followers that can be monetized, and another 50 million that are always willing to pay to watch a car crash or a live suicide.

  84. 84.

    dollared

    January 29, 2018 at 5:57 pm

    @MJS: This. I’m sure that many people in our glorious all volunteer armed forces dream of the day their tanks will be called into the streets of our cities to stop an uprising of all those brown and black people. Kelly actually has the plans in his head. And maybe on an encrypted key in his desk drawer.

  85. 85.

    Yutsano

    January 29, 2018 at 5:58 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    He has taken to ending such conversations with a disclaimer that the White House isn’t expecting officials to do anything illegal or unethical

    In Dolt45Speak:

    “Anything that will embarrass or make the President look bad. Or criminal. Basically, just shut up.”

  86. 86.

    Gravenstone

    January 29, 2018 at 6:00 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Someone needs to throw themselves in front of a subway train. The world will be better for her final act were that to happen.

  87. 87.

    Jay S

    January 29, 2018 at 6:01 pm

    @Jay S: And looking at her tweet stream it looks like she was shooting for sarcasm and missed.

  88. 88.

    Jake the antisoshul soshulist

    January 29, 2018 at 6:03 pm

    @Corner Stone: The Polka King.

  89. 89.

    randy khan

    January 29, 2018 at 6:03 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Kelly is dangerously close to interfering with an investigation into the president here. These conversations are usually channeled thru the WH counsel. Interesting McGahn isn’t involved.

    I’m guessing that McGahn is no longer deemed to be sufficiently reliable. They’re worried that he’d actually tell the DoJ folks that they should feel free to do their jobs.

  90. 90.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 29, 2018 at 6:06 pm

    @Yutsano: reminds me of Tony Soprano telling his various captains, “you gotta do what you gotta do…”

  91. 91.

    randy khan

    January 29, 2018 at 6:07 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Didn’t Romney cancel all campaign credit cards like one minute after he lost the election? All the staff were stranded if I remember the details correctly.

    He did. There were several stories about it. My guess is that it was pre-planned, and that they were going to be cancelled regardless of the result, which was both petty and stupid. (Suppose there had been a 2000 situation, for instance.)

  92. 92.

    trnc

    January 29, 2018 at 6:07 pm

    … he wanted his firing to abruptly strip him of any trappings that come with the office and leave him across the country scrambling to find his own way home.

    I’m actually not sure which is more stupid – the cowardly firing of Comey while he was 3000 miles away, or the idea that it would be very difficult for Comey to get back home on his own.

  93. 93.

    randy khan

    January 29, 2018 at 6:10 pm

    @The Moar You Know:

    I posted this last thread but it bears repeating: Trump has a singular talent. A rare one and it’s amazing. He gets everyone around him to instantly forgo their dignity.
    Because if he had said what he said to McCabe about his wife to me about MY wife, my response would have not been “yes, sir.”

    The report suggests that “Yes, sir,” was not the response Trump wanted, since he hung up right after that. I would guess that it really irked him that McCabe did not rise to take the bait.

  94. 94.

    Gravenstone

    January 29, 2018 at 6:11 pm

    @NotMax: Only if you’re getting non-homogenized. Which I’m sure you know.

  95. 95.

    Shakti

    January 29, 2018 at 6:20 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:
    Any man who tried to push a NDA and a noncompete on volunteers, people giving their labor for free clearly is a fucking nightmare to be around. I think half these “leaks” are people venting.

  96. 96.

    KS in MA

    January 29, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    @jharp: Co-sign!

  97. 97.

    Betty Cracker

    January 29, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    @NotMax: Somewhat relatedly, my favorite poem about canned milk:

    Pet Milk, best in the land.
    Pet Milk, comes in a can.
    No tits to pull,
    No hay to pitch.
    You just punch a hole in the son of a bitch!

    [I’ll show myself out, thanks.]

  98. 98.

    Miss Bianca

    January 29, 2018 at 6:37 pm

    @Betty Cracker: LOL! I never heard that one! Is that a Betty Cracker original?

  99. 99.

    geg6

    January 29, 2018 at 6:41 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Jesus fucking Christ, she is just the most vile piece of shit that ever walked.

  100. 100.

    WaterGirl

    January 29, 2018 at 6:48 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Wow, somebody pissed off Maggie H. After carrying his water for all this time, I am trying to imagine what the last straw could possibly have been.

    Edit: I see from the comments that many of you think that Maggie H. was making an excuse. As you can tell from my comment, I did not see it that way.

  101. 101.

    Anotherlurker

    January 29, 2018 at 6:50 pm

    @Betty Cracker: LOL! (spits wine all over keyboard!)

  102. 102.

    WaterGirl

    January 29, 2018 at 6:55 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): There is a story about Barack Obama, from before he was famous, buying some woman he did not know a plane ticket when she was stranded somewhere. What Obama and Trump have absolutely nothing in common.

  103. 103.

    Betty Cracker

    January 29, 2018 at 6:56 pm

    @Miss Bianca: I wish! Read it years ago somewhere, and it stuck with me.

  104. 104.

    Shalimar

    January 29, 2018 at 6:58 pm

    @LanceThruster: It always saddened me that he never comments here except to link to a request for money. This is a generous community. If he had spent 1/10th as much time commenting here as he has writing blog posts no one reads, there would most likely have been a fund-raiser or two to help him.

  105. 105.

    Aleta

    January 29, 2018 at 7:02 pm

    @WaterGirl: Her comment coming after “A White House official, who would not speak on the record, disputed the account, saying, ‘this simply never happened. Any suggestion otherwise is pure fiction.'” does seem = to “The WH is lying.”

  106. 106.

    OldDave

    January 29, 2018 at 7:04 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    … just punch a hole in the son of a bitch!

    I remember the last three lines showed up in John Muir’s “How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive: A Manual of Step-by-Step Procedures for the Compleat Idiot” alongside lines like “Learn to cure Rod Knock … I didn’t know he was sick!”

  107. 107.

    dww44

    January 29, 2018 at 7:05 pm

    @WaterGirl: I too think she is still carrying water for Trump. Maggie Haberman has been seriously bought and paid for.

  108. 108.

    NotMax

    January 29, 2018 at 7:06 pm

    @Betty Cracker

    Read it years ago

    And here I was picturing a tyke with an ear-to-ear grin, braids swinging to and fro, reciting it while jumping rope.

  109. 109.

    NotMax

    January 29, 2018 at 7:12 pm

    @Shalimar

    Not just here. He’s been pulling the same scam simultaneously on many blogs for years and years. Can remember seeing it even before he announced his change of nym and blog title to what they are currently.

  110. 110.

    Bobby Thomson

    January 29, 2018 at 7:20 pm

    @Mike in DC: a few well-timed swirlies might have saved the country.

  111. 111.

    Bobby Thomson

    January 29, 2018 at 7:21 pm

    @Betty Cracker: and repeating White House spin is just how Haberman talks.

  112. 112.

    zhena gogolia

    January 29, 2018 at 7:22 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    I know it from somewhere too, and I can’t for the life of me remember where.

    ETA: I’m hearing it in the voice of Paul Newman, if that helps any. Maybe it’s in Nobody’s Fool.

  113. 113.

    zhena gogolia

    January 29, 2018 at 7:25 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Snopes has an article on it regarding Carnation: “Printed references to this verse indicate that it might be almost a century old itself. For example, the following presentation appears in a college literature textbook:”
    But I think I know it from Richard Russo somehow.

  114. 114.

    Bobby Thomson

    January 29, 2018 at 7:29 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: I haven’t seen such naked campaigning for that job since 2008.

  115. 115.

    Bobby Thomson

    January 29, 2018 at 7:35 pm

    @Tenar Arha: revisionist history after the reaction was stronger than she anticipated. She stays bought.

  116. 116.

    Ladyraxterinok

    January 29, 2018 at 7:37 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Some people will invent excuses for anything T does or says. Have we ever had another politician given this kind of treatment by news media? Maybe Reagan??

  117. 117.

    hueyplong

    January 29, 2018 at 7:44 pm

    It’s the nature of this age that requires its Judith Miller to take servility to a level previously unimagined and perhaps unimaginable.

    If there is a debasement to which she is unwilling to subject herself, I do not wish to read a description of it.

  118. 118.

    zhena gogolia

    January 29, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    I know now where I saw it. It was Richard Russo, in Everybody’s Fool, the sequel to Nobody’s Fool. Paul Newman played the character in the film made from Nobody’s Fool, and his performance as Sully was so indelible that when I read the sequel Everybody’s Fool I just heard all the dialogue of that character in Paul Newman’s voice. But the jingle itself is ancient folklore, I just never heard it before Russo and thought it was very funny.

  119. 119.

    Hkedi [Kang T. Q.]

    January 29, 2018 at 7:50 pm

    @dollared: Especially since approximately 40% of the armed forces are minorities. that would get REAL interesting.

  120. 120.

    dollared

    January 29, 2018 at 8:03 pm

    @Hkedi [Kang T. Q.]: I read a science fiction short story in about 1972 that foretold of an dirty, violent ongoing civil war covering Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi led by black draftees that had erupted in 2005 and was still at stalemate three years later. Didn’t seem like an impossibility. Had a lot of infrared sensors, drones and smart missiles too.

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