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You are here: Home / Politics / America / 2018 State of the Uniom Live Stream

2018 State of the Uniom Live Stream

by Adam L Silverman|  January 30, 20188:40 pm| 401 Comments

This post is in: America, Domestic Politics, Election 2016, Election 2018, Foreign Affairs, Open Threads, Politics, Popular Culture, Post-racial America

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Here’s the live feed for tonight’s State of the Uniom.

Updated at 9:00 PM EST

You all may need these. Courtesy of USA Today.

You know what to do in the comments.

Open thread!

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401Comments

  1. 1.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 8:42 pm

    You know what to do in the comments.

    I am a little too old to literally poop myself.

  2. 2.

    mai naem mobile

    January 30, 2018 at 8:43 pm

    Maybe not watch it Adam? Thats what I am doing anyhow. Not giving ratings to Orange Douchebag.

  3. 3.

    LanceThruster

    January 30, 2018 at 8:43 pm

    Will rely on analysis afterward. About to watch Jimmy Dore go live. Looking forward to rebuttals by Bernie, Maxine Waters, and even Joe Kennedy the Nth.

  4. 4.

    zhena gogolia

    January 30, 2018 at 8:44 pm

    Going to OD on MST3K. Thanks, Venice commenter down below!

  5. 5.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I wonder why Ivanka is wearing a farmhouse kitchen tablecloth as a dress for tonight.

  6. 6.

    divF

    January 30, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    I’m going down to the Y, getting on a treadmill, and watching the first half of the Warriors-Jazz game while getting my work in. I’ll look here to find out what happened when I get back.

  7. 7.

    Baud

    January 30, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    The state of the Union is shitty.

  8. 8.

    eric

    January 30, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    There is not enough monkey in the world to pay me to watch the spate of the uniom.

  9. 9.

    LanceThruster

    January 30, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    The state of the Uniom is Cheeto dusted.

  10. 10.

    GregB

    January 30, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    Taking a page from the nuclear apocalypse themed novel Alas Babylon, the agriculture secretery is the designated survivor.

  11. 11.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    @eric:

    There is not enough monkey in the world to pay me to watch the spate of the uniom.

    I think this may say more about you…

  12. 12.

    B.B.A.

    January 30, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    I’m boycotting it, so someone let me know if he tries to start a “LOCK HER UP” chant.

  13. 13.

    Duane

    January 30, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    I bet money Trump says “uniom” at least once. Add it to tour drinking game.

  14. 14.

    divF

    January 30, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    @GregB: Zombie Earl Butz ?

  15. 15.

    BruceFromOhio

    January 30, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    Drinking a bourbon to toast the edge of civilization and wondering what a Uniom is, and what state it resides in.

    Then reading for a bit before clocking out.

  16. 16.

    Johnnybuck

    January 30, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    The best resistance in my opinion is not giving it the time of day.

  17. 17.

    Fair Economist

    January 30, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    Almost everything Trump ever says is a lie. Why waste time listening?

  18. 18.

    Lizzy L

    January 30, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    Not watching. But I will be checking in here and visiting other live-blogging sites.

  19. 19.

    PIGL

    January 30, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    I am just making a nice omelette, which I will enjoy with a drop of chilled Greene Chartreuse, while not watching the spectacle, but praying fervently for divine intervention of the kind most unmistakable and definitive.

  20. 20.

    NotMax

    January 30, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    The state of the union is about to immeasurably improve. I quit.”

    (One can dream, can’t one?)

  21. 21.

    Baud

    January 30, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    As a non-watcher, my hats off to you yeoman citizens who are taking one for the team.

  22. 22.

    BruceFromOhio

    January 30, 2018 at 8:55 pm

    @Corner Stone: My monkey is enamored with you.

    I am devastated.

  23. 23.

    Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)

    January 30, 2018 at 8:55 pm

    @Duane: I just had the delightful thought that someone in the WH is putting out all those misspellings on purpose as a secret little rebellion.

  24. 24.

    Amir Khalid

    January 30, 2018 at 8:56 pm

    @LanceThruster:
    Jimmy Dore is a ranking BernieBro at Bernista HQ The Young Turks, isn’t he? I can already guess what he’s going to say.

  25. 25.

    BruceFromOhio

    January 30, 2018 at 8:56 pm

    @PIGL: cheering for the meteorite, eh? Good strategy.

  26. 26.

    PhoenixRising

    January 30, 2018 at 8:56 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    You know what to do in the comments.

    I am a little too old to literally poop myself.

    Or maybe not quite old enough. G-d wiling, you’ll get there.

  27. 27.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 8:57 pm

    Now that he’s not going to be ambassador, Victor Cha lets it all hang out.

  28. 28.

    Duane

    January 30, 2018 at 8:59 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Maybe they’ll sabotage the teleprompter.

  29. 29.

    Ladyraxterinok

    January 30, 2018 at 8:59 pm

    @Fair Economist: Amen! And so say we all Amen. ‘From the tops of our heads to the toes of our feet!’*

    * frequent close of prayer in Pentecostal churches

  30. 30.

    mai naem mobile

    January 30, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    Are Putins strings well hidden behind Dolt45 or have Dolt’s idiots done yet another shitty job with staging and the strings are clearly visible?

  31. 31.

    Duane

    January 30, 2018 at 9:00 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Maybe they’ll sabotage the teleprompter.

  32. 32.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:01 pm

    Just updated with State of the Union bingo cards. For those playing along at home!

    More options here:
    twitter.com/search?q=state%20of%20the%20union%20bingo&src=typd

  33. 33.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    Wilbur Ross is still awake.

  34. 34.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    Rex Tillerson looking grim.

  35. 35.

    mai naem mobile

    January 30, 2018 at 9:02 pm

    Who’s the cabinet guy not there? Mattis I hope. All the others are awfuller. Hope it’s not Scotty Boy Pruitt,Betsy Devos or Keebler Elf.

  36. 36.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:03 pm

    Nikki Haley looking for a better seat.

  37. 37.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    January 30, 2018 at 9:03 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Or too young. We’ll check back in 40 years.

  38. 38.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    @mai naem mobile: It’s some clown they finally got to be Agriculture Sec.

  39. 39.

    PIGL

    January 30, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    @BruceFromOhio: Not the meteor. I was thinking of something a bit more specific, more lingery. Something also that would make better TV. Say a plague of boils, and swarms of Manchurian giant hornets…all with very hard feelings about anything Republican.

  40. 40.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:04 pm

    @mai naem mobile: Secretary of Agriculture Perdue.

  41. 41.

    Major Major Major Major

    January 30, 2018 at 9:05 pm

    There some sorta thing happening tonight?

  42. 42.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:05 pm

    Just remember that every time the President has to give a teleprompter speech he has a twitter meltdown and/or an off the cuff media availability meltdown within 24 to 48 hours.

  43. 43.

    randy khan

    January 30, 2018 at 9:05 pm

    There’s lots of watchable stuff on my DVR and, failing that, I’m pretty sure HGTV is not carrying it, so I’m good.

  44. 44.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: It takes a tough cabinet secretary to make a tender designated survivor.

  45. 45.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    I can see the hair. The applause is best described as a smattering. A very small one.

  46. 46.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:07 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: If the world is ending and we have Sonny Perdue as our last hope…

  47. 47.

    Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)

    January 30, 2018 at 9:07 pm

    @Duane: Why not? It could happen.

  48. 48.

    Baud

    January 30, 2018 at 9:08 pm

    CNN is on it.

    Melania Trump set to emerge publicly for the first time since porn star Stormy Daniels report

  49. 49.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    January 30, 2018 at 9:08 pm

    I want an emotional support scorpion for this. But I’ll settle for an emu. Or a peacock.

  50. 50.

    Gretchen

    January 30, 2018 at 9:08 pm

    @Corner Stone: It’s amazing, isn’t it? Money can’t buy taste.

  51. 51.

    JWR

    January 30, 2018 at 9:09 pm

    Just heard on NBC that the Congressional Black Caucus has remained seated. Good on them!

  52. 52.

    Bill Arnold

    January 30, 2018 at 9:09 pm

    Clapping for himself like a trained seal.

  53. 53.

    El Caganer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:09 pm

    Commentary by David Fucking Brooks? Talking about Donald Trump? No, thank you – there’s some hot clown-on-reptile porn that’s dying for my attention.

  54. 54.

    B.B.A.

    January 30, 2018 at 9:09 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Keep fucking that chicken!

  55. 55.

    mai naem mobile

    January 30, 2018 at 9:09 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: you forgot “greatest”,”winning”,Ivanka,sanctuary cities,Cryin’Chuck Schumer, black unemployment,NAFTA and Iran.

  56. 56.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:10 pm

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: Do scorpion’s have any emotions? I just thought it was in their nature.

  57. 57.

    Baud

    January 30, 2018 at 9:10 pm

    @El Caganer:

    there’s some hot clown-on-reptile porn that’s dying for my attention.

    Ironically, also with David Brooks.

  58. 58.

    BruceFromOhio

    January 30, 2018 at 9:10 pm

    @PIGL: I find your ideas intriguing, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

    Read lingery as lingerie, and decided against having another bourbon.

  59. 59.

    rk

    January 30, 2018 at 9:10 pm

    Watch Donald Trump give a speech? No thank you. I’ve never watched even Obama give one. I’m not about to begin watching this joker. I hope he keels over and drops dead! That would be the best thing to happen to the union.

  60. 60.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:11 pm

    The Mongol Herd was already sweeping across our land.

  61. 61.

    Aleta

    January 30, 2018 at 9:11 pm

    Stae of Delusion.

  62. 62.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    Jesus. One paragraph in and he’s already sniffling.

  63. 63.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    @Baud: If she sees her shadow, we have six more weeks of winter.

  64. 64.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:13 pm

    He’s slurring his speech again. Apparently RADM Jackson gave him to much sudafed again.

  65. 65.

    Shana

    January 30, 2018 at 9:13 pm

    Only a sentence or two in and he’s already sniffing.

  66. 66.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:13 pm

    With my beautiful wife Melania, who she has been grudge fucking for a week or so since the pr0n payoff news came out.

  67. 67.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    @B.B.A.: Excuse me?

  68. 68.

    burnspbesq

    January 30, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    Even SEC basketball is preferable to this shit-show. Go Vandy!

  69. 69.

    Gretchen

    January 30, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    @mai naem mobile: Scott Perdur. Chicken king.

  70. 70.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:14 pm

    @mai naem mobile: Go to the link I put in the comment. There are some really harsh versions out there.

  71. 71.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 9:15 pm

    Clear vision. Righteous mission. Extraordinary success. Dems mostly in dark clothes sitting on their hands. Melania has a lady Coast Guard with her who saved people in Houston. Guess what? She’s white. So is the California fire fighter.

  72. 72.

    Steve in the ATL

    January 30, 2018 at 9:15 pm

    I’m at the printer getting copies of my 80-page offer of settlement. The down side of getting a deal in on the contract is I will leave California and go back to my red state. On the plus side, I won’t have to see these particular union thugs for a long time. By which I mean three weeks, when we start bargaining another contract.

    The good news is I am totally missing what I assume is a verbal tire fire.

  73. 73.

    BruceFromOhio

    January 30, 2018 at 9:15 pm

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: I understand that all of those creatures are no longer welcome on Delta flights.

    On the other hand, emotional support scorpion makes a great band name.

  74. 74.

    JWR

    January 30, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    He’s already giving kudos to various attendees? Isn’t that usually done near the wind down? (We can only hope!)

    But damn, his seal-clapping is drowning everything out.

    ETA: And yes, his snuffling, too. ;-(

  75. 75.

    mai naem mobile

    January 30, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    @Corner Stone: they have an IV line in his right arm hiding under his suit shooting the cocaine straight into his blood. He’s going to be doing massive sniffing.

  76. 76.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 9:17 pm

    Everybody gives a standing O for Steve Scalise and the Capitol police.

  77. 77.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:17 pm

    just shout-outs to emergency responder guests so far.

    Now a call for unity.

  78. 78.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 30, 2018 at 9:18 pm

    @rk: Obama’s were actually worth watching. He was just about the only major politician who didn’t give me embarrassment-cringe when he spoke.

  79. 79.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:18 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Major sniffing.

    I’m already a couple of minutes behind on the DVR. Had to make myself an industrial-strength drink to get started. Think I’ll catch up as he calls out the heroes in the gallery and we pause for extended shmaltzy applause.

    Houston first-responder Ashley. Question (not to Ashley): Will Trump have a “hero” from the Puerto Rico fiasco?

  80. 80.

    magurakurin

    January 30, 2018 at 9:18 pm

    @mai naem mobile:

    they have an IV line in his right arm hiding under his suit shooting the cocaine straight into his blood.

    Jem’Hadar Cadet Bone Spurs

  81. 81.

    B.B.A.

    January 30, 2018 at 9:19 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Excuse you!

  82. 82.

    mai naem mobile

    January 30, 2018 at 9:19 pm

    Is Melania wearing a sleeveless dress or is she wearing a ripoff of whatever Jackie Kennedy wore during a JFK Congressional address?

  83. 83.

    Schlemazel

    January 30, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:
    If you are in the right place there is a lunar eclipse.

  84. 84.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    When Trump talks about love or uses the word beautiful—which he does a lot in his speeches—he gets this weird, oogly-googly tone in his voice that is thoroughly creepy.

  85. 85.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    January 30, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    @BruceFromOhio:

    emotional support scorpion makes a great band name.

    Doesn’t it though?

    Also too:

    John Podhoretz‏Verified account
    @jpodhoretz

    couldn’t someone learn to mike this guy so we don’t hear the back breathing?

  86. 86.

    mai naem mobile

    January 30, 2018 at 9:21 pm

    @Mary G: the same Stevie Scalise who was all ready wit anti gay legislation even though the cop who saved his sorry white ass was gay? That Stevie Scalise?

  87. 87.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 9:21 pm

    Stock market. 401(k) they the roof. Tax cuts get the first genuine applause from Rs.

  88. 88.

    magurakurin

    January 30, 2018 at 9:22 pm

    @Schlemazel: I’m in the right place…but the forecast is for cloud cover tonight.

  89. 89.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:22 pm

    Steve Scalise—there’s a real hero! Stood around doing nothing, got shot—partially because of his rabid Second Amendment fundamentalism—and had his ass saved by non-white officers.

  90. 90.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et Al.)

    January 30, 2018 at 9:22 pm

    Not watching the Spite of the Uniom speech. Not going to do it. Nobody can make me.

  91. 91.

    BruceFromOhio

    January 30, 2018 at 9:22 pm

    @magurakurin:

    Puppets Of The Dominion: This Wormhole Closed For Repair

  92. 92.

    Swannie

    January 30, 2018 at 9:22 pm

    Democrats appear to hate rising wages and low unemployment.

  93. 93.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:23 pm

    @mai naem mobile: She’s wearing kind of a nice cream suit.

  94. 94.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 30, 2018 at 9:23 pm

    AgSec Sonny Perdue is former Governor of Georgia. His first cousin David Perdue is Georgia’s junior senator. They are not related at all to the Perdue Chicken folks.

  95. 95.

    debbie

    January 30, 2018 at 9:23 pm

    @mai naem mobile:

    Apparently she arrived separately. Still pissed, I guess.

  96. 96.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:23 pm

    The clichés are piling up like snow under the eaves. Mountains climbed. Challenges met. Safe, strong and proud America being built.

  97. 97.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:23 pm

    He’s losing his dentures.

  98. 98.

    Aleta

    January 30, 2018 at 9:23 pm

    It’s not a lie if I say Opama Care.

  99. 99.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    First fact-checking points: new jobs being created (200,000?), wages going up.

  100. 100.

    hueyplong

    January 30, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    Y’all got stronger stomachs. I can barely stand to read the on-my-side commentary you put up about that fecal pile’s “speech.”

  101. 101.

    Schlemazel

    January 30, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    @mai naem mobile:
    She should go with that little pink number Jakie wore in Dallas

  102. 102.

    ArchTeryx

    January 30, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    And we have a Trump troll, right on cue.

  103. 103.

    Lizzy L

    January 30, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    The Washington Post fact checkers are on the case!

  104. 104.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    If Melania Trump is starting off like this, how miserable will she be by the end of the speech? #SOTU pic.twitter.com/EbCnGxKW6X

    — Matt Wilstein (@mattwilstein) January 31, 2018

  105. 105.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    Nancy Smash’s face is priceless.

  106. 106.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    God, the Republicans are applauding and hooting after virtually every sentence. We may be here all night.

  107. 107.

    El Caganer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:25 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I think the doc forgot to tell him he’s not supposed to put it up his nose.

  108. 108.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:25 pm

    @Swannie: We do! We need the Trumproletariat to be poor and dependent on the govt! FOREVER!!

  109. 109.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:25 pm

    I see Congressman Gowdy had his hair professionally done for the evening.

  110. 110.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    January 30, 2018 at 9:25 pm

    @Swannie:
    No, they just hate phonies who take credit for the work of others.

  111. 111.

    Mike J

    January 30, 2018 at 9:25 pm

    In January alone, 1,034 people attended an organizing academy held by the Washington state Democratic party. The state of our union is strong.

  112. 112.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 9:25 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: She’s clapping as little as humanly possible.

  113. 113.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:26 pm

    “Pension, 401K and college-fund accounts increasingly bigly.” Too bad fewer and fewer Americans have any of those.

  114. 114.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 30, 2018 at 9:26 pm

    @BruceFromOhio:

    Puppets Of The Dominion

    Learn to spell, will you? That’s Dominiom.

  115. 115.

    Schlemazel

    January 30, 2018 at 9:26 pm

    @magurakurin:
    Still better watching than the shitheads shitshow

  116. 116.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:26 pm

    More fact-checking points: bogus-sounding factoids about the “massive tax cuts.”

  117. 117.

    JWR

    January 30, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Will Trump have a “hero” from the Puerto Rico fiasco?

    Didn’t he already cover this in the first 30 seconds or so? And now, more shout-outs to people in attendance.

  118. 118.

    Aleta

    January 30, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    That’s 20,000 over 10 years.

  119. 119.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    Trump says average middle-class taxpayer will see tax bill go down $2,000. Yee-fucking-haw. That’s $167 a month. Have a nice couple of dinners at Olive Garden and tip the babysitter generously.

  120. 120.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 30, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Who’s the kid next to her? I know it’s not Barron.

  121. 121.

    ArchTeryx

    January 30, 2018 at 9:29 pm

    @Steeplejack: The average middle class taxpayer will see their tax bill go UP.

  122. 122.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:29 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: I’m deleting this. I get you’re upset, angry, and worried, but how about you ease up just a wee bit?

  123. 123.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    God damn. How many times is he going to seal clap for himself?!

  124. 124.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    THE MOTTO IS “IN GOD WE TRUST”

    And Paul Ryan points upward.

    I am not kidding

  125. 125.

    BruceFromOhio

    January 30, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: That’s not what it says on my invitation!

    Fuck, I’m in the wrong room again … where’s my emotional support scorpion, it’s time to move.

  126. 126.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: She is not a happy camper.

  127. 127.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    January 30, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Sorry. Yeah. You should delete it. I was just about to edit it myself.

  128. 128.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 9:31 pm

    Joint chiefs don’t look happy.

  129. 129.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:31 pm

    Uh-oh. These hero small business owners hired a Negro. Don’t know how that will go over with the base.

  130. 130.

    ArchTeryx

    January 30, 2018 at 9:31 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Long as you’re doing that, a cleanup on Aisle 92 would be appreciated.

  131. 131.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:31 pm

    @Corner Stone: Every time Katie!

  132. 132.

    JWR

    January 30, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    I really like the visual of Democrats largely remaining seated. (Jeebus! “SOTU! Now with even MORE shout-outs!)”

  133. 133.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    I’d like to know how in the hell Apple is going to hire 20,000 more people in this country. Aren’t they basically an idea lab and branding company now? Or are we going to have factories with nets on the outside to catch suicidal workers?

  134. 134.

    debbie

    January 30, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    I haven’t seen a paycheck with the new rates yet, but I’ll be losing about $100 just on the deduction/exemption changes.

  135. 135.

    Central Planning

    January 30, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    Is it over yet?

  136. 136.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    Getting a bit nasty about standing for the anthem.

  137. 137.

    Jonny Scrum-half

    January 30, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    @Steeplejack: Trump is the worst, but scoffing at an extra $2000/year isn’t how we’re going to win.

  138. 138.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 30, 2018 at 9:32 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:
    @SiubhanDuinne:

    N/M, seems to be the flag kid.

  139. 139.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:33 pm

    Who is the stand in for Barron tonight?

  140. 140.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:33 pm

    God, Trump talking about us as “one American family” makes me throw up in my mouth a little.

  141. 141.

    cain

    January 30, 2018 at 9:33 pm

    I wish someone had brought a live shark.

  142. 142.

    El Caganer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:33 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: What, like he just hit a three from center court?

  143. 143.

    BruceFromOhio

    January 30, 2018 at 9:34 pm

    @ArchTeryx: This. I have to draw a little picture for trumpfers because they can’t understand it when I use plain American speak.

  144. 144.

    Inventor

    January 30, 2018 at 9:34 pm

    @Jonny Scrum-half: My taxes will go up by more than that, am I allowed to scoff?

  145. 145.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 9:34 pm

    @JWR: and wearing black, like a funeral for America.

  146. 146.

    debbie

    January 30, 2018 at 9:34 pm

    Is Stephen Miller there?

  147. 147.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    Oh, shit. Trump forcefully says, “The motto of America is ‘In God we trust.'” Behind him, Ryan does one of those baseball-player “I just hit a home run” looks to the sky, points his finger up and mouths “Amen.”

    Suddenly I don’t think I have enough liquor in the house.

  148. 148.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Carry on then. I understand the where the sentiment is coming from, but just cut yourself and everyone else a little slack.

  149. 149.

    magurakurin

    January 30, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    @Jonny Scrum-half: can we scoff at the lie that average people will get a 2000 dollar tax cut?

  150. 150.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    January 30, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    @Jonny Scrum-half:
    An extra 2 grand a year isn’t that much. Oh, and I wasn’t aware comments on a blog are official party policy.

  151. 151.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 30, 2018 at 9:35 pm

    And I never banged Stormy Daniels. Could of. Probably should of. Look at the cans on that one. Believe me! Believe me! Did I mention I have been great for women? Broads – what ya gonna do – amirite!

    State of the Boobies

  152. 152.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:36 pm

    Trump starts a sentence with “Our police, our military . . .” and the Rethugs are clapping before he gets another word out.

    ETA: Oh, they need our support. Another standing ovation.

  153. 153.

    raven

    January 30, 2018 at 9:36 pm

    This dude was a journalism professor at Georgia and I invite you to read this hilarious obit. At the end he urges people buy a young person a subscription to the NYT so if you don’t like it don’t read it and then go fuck yourself.

    My name is Barry Hollander, of Athens, Georgia. I died on January 30, 2018 due to complications related to thyroid cancer at the age of 59. Yes, I wrote my own obituary in advance. No one who knows me is surprised.

    Send flowers if you like, as Edith loves them, but in my memory raise a good glass of bourbon or single-malt whisky. In my memory, tell stories about me, especially the ones that make me sound like an idiot. In my memory, buy a young person a subscription to a good news source like The New York Times. And in my memory, watch out for Edith, the love of my life. I never deserved someone as good as her, and she doesn’t deserve this.

  154. 154.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:36 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Or are we going to have factories with nets on the outside to catch suicidal workers?

    Yes, in Wisconsin.

  155. 155.

    Bill Arnold

    January 30, 2018 at 9:36 pm

    Has there been any substance yet? Or just bragging?

  156. 156.

    El Caganer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:36 pm

    @Corner Stone: Could it be….The Cyber?

  157. 157.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    January 30, 2018 at 9:36 pm

    @Mary G:
    I’m not watching. What’s he mouthing exactly?

  158. 158.

    Aleta

    January 30, 2018 at 9:37 pm

    I forget, what is clean coal?

  159. 159.

    Calouste

    January 30, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    @Steeplejack: My paycheck went up 97 cents. I get paid twice a month, so that’s a massive $1.94.

  160. 160.

    hedgehog mobile

    January 30, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    Watching Drunk History with a cider. May break out the bourbon for Colbert’s show.

  161. 161.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    Trying to fast-forward to catch up, but I’ve got to see what he says about Gorsuch.

  162. 162.

    raven

    January 30, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    I’m watching King Kong.

  163. 163.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    January 30, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    @Aleta:
    More importantly, what’s the point of clean coal if pollution and climate change is just “politicized science”?

  164. 164.

    JWR

    January 30, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    @Bill Arnold: The latter. It’s amazing.

  165. 165.

    PIGL

    January 30, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    @BruceFromOhio: That’s the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me. Here. (wipes away tears, shuffles off).

  166. 166.

    Shana

    January 30, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    @raven: What a mensch! Good on him.

  167. 167.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    @Bill Arnold: No, it’s pretty boring. Plus clapping into the microphone, which James Fallows noted was terrible stagecraft.

  168. 168.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    Jesus, “giving veterans choice in their health-care decisions” is a stopper applause line?

  169. 169.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: In this case, state of the implants.

  170. 170.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 30, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    @Aleta: To be perfectly fair: Obama touted “clean coal” when he was campaigning in ’08. He seems to have wised up later.

  171. 171.

    magurakurin

    January 30, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    @raven: which one the 1933 original or the Peter Jackson version?

  172. 172.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    I can’t believe that Trump just signaled everyone to stand up. Wait, yes I can.

    — Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) January 31, 2018

  173. 173.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    January 30, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:
    From what I’m reading, the GOP is lapping it up and think he’s doing great. Truly a cult they are.

  174. 174.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    He stops for Rx prices. And claps like a clown trained seal. Again.

  175. 175.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    “We have ended the war on beautiful, clean coal.” Words fail.

  176. 176.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    Drug prices will come down substantially. My ass.

  177. 177.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    Our nation has lost its wealth? Say whut?

  178. 178.

    Hitless

    January 30, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Average isn’t the median.

    And in fact, who knows knows how they are defining average but my money says most taxpayers won’t…

  179. 179.

    Raoul

    January 30, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    “Our police, our military … need our support.” Our FBI needs to be run through a shredder and then pissed on repeatedly.

    Yeah, don’t expect Republicans/Trump to make sense.

  180. 180.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 30, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: another case of technology stripping jobs away from hard working whites.

  181. 181.

    magurakurin

    January 30, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    @Steeplejack: It’s Stalinism, clapping is required when Dear Leader speaks.

  182. 182.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    “We can get Motor City revving its engine again. And that’s what happening.” Whut?

  183. 183.

    Aleta

    January 30, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    Give these boys some party horns and elastic hats.

  184. 184.

    Baud

    January 30, 2018 at 9:43 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Cults vote.

  185. 185.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:44 pm

    Okay, skipping ahead four minutes to get live. Someone can fill me in later on how we improved the FDA.

  186. 186.

    magurakurin

    January 30, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    @Baud: except for Wilmer’s. They couldn’t figure out how to register.

  187. 187.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    $1.5T infrastructure bill? Hilarious.

  188. 188.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    January 30, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    @raven: That’s lovely. He was clearly a wonderful man. Edith must miss him horribly.

  189. 189.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    January 30, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    One could almost say, that his mouth is writing checks that his ass can’t cash, a phrase that has fallen out of favor around here.

  190. 190.

    Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)

    January 30, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    @Steeplejack: He’s ruined the word “beautiful” forever

  191. 191.

    Duane

    January 30, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    Pelosi looks like she’s about to spit a 16 penny nail.

  192. 192.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    I agree with Goku’s earlier comment which has since been deleted.

  193. 193.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:46 pm

    Uh-oh: $1.5 trillion infrastucture initiative. Every federal dollar should be leveraged with state and local and, “where appropriate,” with private investment. Any bill must also streamline the approval process.

    “We will build gleaming new roads.” That doesn’t sound safe.

  194. 194.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:46 pm

    So much for never forsaking Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands:

    FEMA will, in its own words, "officially shut off" humanitarian aid in Puerto Rico this week following Hurricane Maria.

    Nearly a third of Puerto Rican customers still lack electricity, in some municipalities, that figure is estimated to be more like 80%. t.co/EQ2ChouuFx

    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 30, 2018

  195. 195.

    Aleta

    January 30, 2018 at 9:46 pm

    American hands and American grift

  196. 196.

    The Thin Black Duke

    January 30, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    And the rest of the civilized world is laughing at us. Putin’s bitch is doing a great job.

  197. 197.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    January 30, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    @Baud:
    They also sometimes drink the koolaid.

  198. 198.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 9:47 pm

    Betsy DeVos reminds me of the mom in “Get Out.”

  199. 199.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    “Let’s support working families by supporting paid family leave.” I can’t believe the Rethugs are applauding this!

  200. 200.

    magurakurin

    January 30, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:

    Checks you signed with love and kisses. Later come back signed “insufficient funds”

  201. 201.

    Aleta

    January 30, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    Thanks Ivanka for inventing paid family leave.

  202. 202.

    Gretchen

    January 30, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    @Corner Stone: I’ll have you know that Oscar de la Renta designed that farmhouse tablecloth that Ivanka was wearing. It still looks like a tablecloth from a not-very-prosperous farmhouse. It’s amazing that she can spend thousands of dollars on a dress and still look tacky.

  203. 203.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:49 pm

    “Reforming our prisons to help inmates who have served their time get a second chance at life.” Standing ovation?! Okay, he’s just trolling the Democrats now.

  204. 204.

    Spanky

    January 30, 2018 at 9:49 pm

    Not watching. Not gonna. Are we bombing North Korea yet?

    I half expect the Trump version of “Hallelujah, hallelujah, the missiles are (sniff) flying.”

  205. 205.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:49 pm

    Okay, back to the red meat. Parents in the gallery whose kids were murdered by MS-13. Weeping on cue.

  206. 206.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:50 pm

    And here comes the blood and soil, herrenvolk portion of the speech.

  207. 207.

    Baud

    January 30, 2018 at 9:50 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    HE’S RUNNING TO THE LEFT OF HILLARY AGAIN!

  208. 208.

    Bill Arnold

    January 30, 2018 at 9:50 pm

    Did he say that ex-cons will be getting the right to vote? Seriously, what is the proposal here re ex-cons?

  209. 209.

    Baud

    January 30, 2018 at 9:50 pm

    @Steeplejack: Didn’t work for Ed Gillespie.

  210. 210.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    Extended applause to honor these parents. But the Republicans in Congress won’t do a goddamn thing.

    Also, unknown loud-clapping person, step the fuck away from the live-feed microphone.

  211. 211.

    TriassicSands

    January 30, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    I just tuned in and Trump’s facial expressions and body language remind me so much of Mussolinie.

    Il Duce and Ill Douche. What a pair.

    I can’t watch or listen to much of this without getting sick. Over the years, the SOTU has morphed into a joke — nearly every line is an applause line. When the speaker is the greatest liar in American political history nothing he says can be taken seriously. And when his party is the most corrupt and incompetent in our history, the applause is meaningless.

  212. 212.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    SOTUs are at least partly wish lists. But usually a president will say “And I will send a bill to Congress outlining…” None of that. Just a wish list. One of his campaign speeches barely cleaned up.

    Now a two minutes’ hate toward MS-13.

  213. 213.

    Mike in DC

    January 30, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    The immigration turn just killed the energy in the room and turned it really dark.

  214. 214.

    mai naem mobile

    January 30, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    @Steeplejack: nah, he’s looking out for Jared and Donny Junior.

  215. 215.

    JWR

    January 30, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    “We will build gleaming new roads.” That doesn’t sound safe.

    Yeah. Isn’t it gleaming new skyscrapers?

  216. 216.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    January 30, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Please, United Nations, please sanction us for this human rights violation. We deserve it.

    The climate we’re in right now is not sustainable. You can’t govern a country like this for long, where 2/3 of the populace hate your guts and want a political party gone, yet stubbornly hang onto power. This limbo we’re in where we pretend this is a democracy is already straining. Just declare martial law and be done with it or go home. The Republicans don’t get to have it both ways.

    The rest of the world will not simply bend to their will. There is a limit to what a single nation can do and they are pissing away 70 years of goodwill for nothing. Does Paul Ryan really think the United States is still going to be on top after all this?

  217. 217.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    “Close the deadly loopholes that have allowed MS-13 to come into our country.” Here we go.

  218. 218.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    @Steeplejack: It’s Trump clapping. You do know, right?

  219. 219.

    SFAW

    January 30, 2018 at 9:53 pm

    @magurakurin:

    Jem’Hadar Cadet Bone Spurs

    As we used to say in college, fuck THAT shit. The Jem’Hadar were highly competent, and had a moral (albeit harsh) code.
    Shitgibbon would fuck over anyone and anything, if he thought it would improve his grift by the eensiest amount, and has yet to (intentionally) tell the truth since he started his campaign.

  220. 220.

    p.a.

    January 30, 2018 at 9:53 pm

    no invasion of Grenada to unify us yet?

  221. 221.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 30, 2018 at 9:53 pm

    @Steeplejack: obvious code to future Ex-Cons Manafort and Flynn

  222. 222.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 9:54 pm

    @Gretchen: It makes me itchy just seeing it on TV.

  223. 223.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:54 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:

    Just declare martial law and be done with it or go home.

    Fine, I, Adam L. Silverman, hereby declare martial law. I’m now going home. Happy now?//

  224. 224.

    JWR

    January 30, 2018 at 9:54 pm

    @Steeplejack: It’s Trump hisself.

  225. 225.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:55 pm

    And he just redefined Dreamers from the people covered under the DACA EO to Americans, who are Dreamers too.

  226. 226.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 30, 2018 at 9:55 pm

    @Aleta: I thought Ivanka invents chinese slave labor

  227. 227.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:55 pm

    Half this speech is just calling out first responders in the audience.

  228. 228.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 9:55 pm

    @Steeplejack: Considering MS-13 was founded in the US, I’m not sure that’s going to work.

  229. 229.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:55 pm

    Uh-oh, honoring an ICE agent in the gallery. Can’t wait to hear this back-story.

    “His team has arrested more than 400, including more than 200 gang members.” Wonder if that includes the schoolkids and 7-Eleven clerks recently rounded up.

  230. 230.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 9:56 pm

    Very low energy crowd.

  231. 231.

    Bill Arnold

    January 30, 2018 at 9:56 pm

    Anyone else imagining seal noises while he claps?

  232. 232.

    El Caganer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:56 pm

    @Steeplejack: Sounds like W. C. Fields’ “streams of beer through fields of waving alfalfa.”

  233. 233.

    TriassicSands

    January 30, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    “…race, religion, and creed…”

    Someone should tell Bozo that religion and creed are the same thing.

  234. 234.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    @Steeplejack: He ran out of game tags and just went with it.

  235. 235.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Wasn’t hearing it before. Just in the last few minutes. But, yeah, I guess.

  236. 236.

    hueyplong

    January 30, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    Cut the guy some slack. When he claps, he’s hitting a very small target.

  237. 237.

    magurakurin

    January 30, 2018 at 9:57 pm

    @SFAW:

    A Ferengi then?

    Not sure if this is okay to say or not, but Deep Space Nine is way, way better than Next Generation.

  238. 238.

    JWR

    January 30, 2018 at 9:58 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Half this speech is just calling out first responders in the audience.

    I’d say that’s about right.

  239. 239.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:58 pm

    Lil Marco does not seem too happy.

  240. 240.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:58 pm

    Can I just say as an aside that a 10- or 12-year “path to citizenship” is bullshit? These Dreamers have been vetted so much that they probably should be granted summary citizenship tomorrow in any sane world.

  241. 241.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 30, 2018 at 9:58 pm

    @magurakurin: you mean you just don’t show up and vote? You have to register first? I thought there was no assigned seating.

  242. 242.

    SFAW

    January 30, 2018 at 9:58 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    “Close the deadly loopholes that have allowed …

    … Scottish women to come (illegally) to the USA to give birth to moran anchor babies, offspring of a second-generation German undesirable — Bavaria didn’t send us their best! — who was a beneficiary of chain migration. No more, I say — NO MORE!! Wait, what? ”

    At least, I think it was Bavaria.

  243. 243.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 9:59 pm

    GREAT WALL!! Jager Bombs it is!!

  244. 244.

    TriassicSands

    January 30, 2018 at 9:59 pm

    There is no good reason for it to take 12 years for Dreamers to become citizens.

  245. 245.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 9:59 pm

    “Horrible and dangerous practice of catch and release.” Word salad.

  246. 246.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 9:59 pm

    @p.a.: The longest part so far (and still going) is conflating all immigration with MS-13.

  247. 247.

    magurakurin

    January 30, 2018 at 10:00 pm

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: yeah, it’s like a drum circle.

  248. 248.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:00 pm

    @magurakurin: It is.

  249. 249.

    SFAW

    January 30, 2018 at 10:00 pm

    @magurakurin:

    A Ferengi then?

    Shitgibbon’s such an anti-Semite, so maybe that’s the right choice.

  250. 250.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:00 pm

    Man, we are deep into Stephen Miller territory right about now.

  251. 251.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    January 30, 2018 at 10:00 pm

    @magurakurin:
    I can vouch for that too. Currently in the beginning of the last season. Really liked how they fleshed out a bunch of alien races, unlike TNG. As much as I liked it, little from TNG can compare to “It’s Only a Paper Moon”.

  252. 252.

    Aleta

    January 30, 2018 at 10:01 pm

    Not a word about people being sent back to El Salvador after risking their lives to escape MS-13.

  253. 253.

    Chris

    January 30, 2018 at 10:01 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    MS-13 was born in our country. We’re the ones who exported it to Central America, not the other way around.

    ETA: damn it, Adam beat me to it.

  254. 254.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 10:01 pm

    Orwell has got to be spinning in his grave. “We will protect the nuclear family by ending chain migration.”

  255. 255.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 10:01 pm

    one thing important to understand: where progressives see this as the immigration section of the speech, Trumpers see this as the start of the foreign policy section. #SOTU

    — Moira Whelan (@moira) January 31, 2018

  256. 256.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:02 pm

    “Merit-based immigration system.”

    Various commenters around the Interwebs have begun to study how many of these members of Congress have immigrants in their own family woodpiles. Chained migration! Did you know that Joe Arpaio was an anchor baby?

  257. 257.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:02 pm

    Who is clapping for this racist bullshit?

  258. 258.

    SFAW

    January 30, 2018 at 10:02 pm

    @hueyplong:

    Cut the guy some slack. When he claps, he’s hitting a very small target.

    Excellent point.
    But not as small as if he tried to punch himself in the dick, however.

  259. 259.

    JWR

    January 30, 2018 at 10:02 pm

    Our 4th “pillar” protects the Nuclear Family by ending “Chain Visas”? Say f***ing whut?!!

  260. 260.

    Duane

    January 30, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    @Mike in DC: Protect the nuclear family? Did he really think he’d get away with that?

  261. 261.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    “My pledge: to sign a[n immigration] bill that puts America first.” What the hell does that even mean?

  262. 262.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 30, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    He hasn’t the faintest notion of how the GC lottery works, does he?

  263. 263.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    “Four Pillars”.
    That sounds like a call back to some book Bannon or Stephen Miller falls asleep to each night.

  264. 264.

    magurakurin

    January 30, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    @SFAW: Don’t you just know that he hates Jared intensely…I mean Jared got his precious Ivanka to convert. The things he must think about Jared are no doubt odious. There is no way he is okay with their Judaism. No way at all.

  265. 265.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 10:04 pm

    Wow. Rumble of booing over his lie about "unlimited" chain. Anyone remember booing before at a #SOTU?

    — Shadow Cabinet (@ShadowingTrump) January 31, 2018

  266. 266.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:04 pm

    Opioids. “We must get much tougher on drug dealers and pushers.” Yeah, that’ll solve it. God, this is 1980s Law and Order.

  267. 267.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    January 30, 2018 at 10:04 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: And as Fallows noted on twitter, that’s not accidental at all.

    Imma go try to find an emotional support scorpion after all.

  268. 268.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 10:04 pm

    Politician’s website has crashed.

  269. 269.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:05 pm

    It would be much easier to believe his seriousness regarding opioid addiction if the Office of Drug Control Policy wasn’t being run by a 24 year old who was fired from his menial job at a law firm for failing to show up for work.

  270. 270.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:05 pm

    Biggest challenges bring out the best in Americans. Yeah, no. But let’s have the illustrative story of the Albuquerque policeman in the gallery. I can’t wait.

  271. 271.

    Aleta

    January 30, 2018 at 10:06 pm

    oh no

  272. 272.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    January 30, 2018 at 10:06 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:
    Uh oh. Get ready to catch Trump after he’s stroked out from that Paulie. No one disses the Donald!

  273. 273.

    magurakurin

    January 30, 2018 at 10:06 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:

    also, too…Trials and Tribble-ations

  274. 274.

    SFAW

    January 30, 2018 at 10:06 pm

    @magurakurin:

    See, I’m torn on the Jared question: does Shitgibbon hate him because he’s Jewish? Or because Jared (theoretically) gets to schtupp Ivanka regularly?

    All of ’em, Katie?

  275. 275.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:07 pm

    Oh, this is the guy sitting next to Melania. I though he was her studmuffin.

    He and his wife apparently adopted a drug user’s infant, although Trump bungled the story so that it’s not quite clear.

  276. 276.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:07 pm

    @SFAW: All of them.

  277. 277.

    LanceThruster

    January 30, 2018 at 10:07 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    He’s commenting on how awful Trump is, and pointing out those areas Dems enable him.

  278. 278.

    Chris

    January 30, 2018 at 10:07 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    No, but good news – neither do any of his supporters!

  279. 279.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:08 pm

    Dump the sequester and “fully fund our great military.” Why didn’t anyone else think of that?

  280. 280.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:08 pm

    @SFAW:

    Or because Jared (theoretically) gets to schtupp Ivanka regularly?

    That giraffe neck though…

  281. 281.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:08 pm

    Ben Carson claps funny.

  282. 282.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 10:09 pm

    More nuclear bombs!

  283. 283.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:09 pm

    Uh-oh. Upgrade our nuclear arsenal. Rocket Man, here we come!

  284. 284.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    January 30, 2018 at 10:09 pm

    I’m not watching.

    Is he still waxing moronic?

  285. 285.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:10 pm

    Did you know we have reclaimed “almost 100%” of the land held until recently by ISIS? Yeah, we have. “But there is much more work to be done.” Oh, Christ, and another thematically related hero in the gallery.

  286. 286.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 10:10 pm

    He wants more nukes.

  287. 287.

    SFAW

    January 30, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Ben Carson claps funny.

    Grifted hands,

  288. 288.

    JWR

    January 30, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    And who’s the shouty GOPer, the one who beats the applause by shouting “Yeah!” before it kicks in?

  289. 289.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    So there’s no actual policy agenda here besides spending $1.5T on infrastructure and name checking first responders and military heroes.

  290. 290.

    Gravenstone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    @Steeplejack: Wisconsin Foxconn says hello!

  291. 291.

    SFAW

    January 30, 2018 at 10:11 pm

    @West of the Rockies (been a while):

    Is he still waxing moronic?

    Is it a day ending in “Y”?

  292. 292.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:12 pm

    Some stylish guy in a suit next to the hero is chewing gum. Dude, ruins the effect.

  293. 293.

    Gravenstone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:12 pm

    @Corner Stone: Was just noticing they’d slicked his hair back, to look like Eric! Poor kid. Hope he gets all the therapy he’s gonna need.

  294. 294.

    magurakurin

    January 30, 2018 at 10:13 pm

    @Steeplejack: small quibble…Law and Order is a 90’s show…scary, I know. Seems like it should be older…but then I realize it’s me who’s older. I love watching how the telephones slowly change in the seasons of that show as the cell phones rapidly became adopted. The first season has Logan looking for pay phones to make calls…in 1990

  295. 295.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:13 pm

    “Terrorists are not merely criminals. They are unlawful enemy combatants.” And? But a major applause line. WTF.

  296. 296.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:14 pm

    “In the past we have foolishly released hundreds and hundreds of dangerous terrorists, only to meet them again on the battlefield.”

  297. 297.

    Matt McIrvin

    January 30, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    @Steeplejack: In Republican-speak that means you can and should torture them.

  298. 298.

    Bill Arnold

    January 30, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    He wants more nukes.

    More, bigger nukes.

  299. 299.

    magurakurin

    January 30, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    @SFAW:

    All of ’em, Katie?

    lol…bwahahaha…probably the schtupping though

  300. 300.

    Gravenstone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    @Steeplejack: “Veterans” is a magic totem for Republicans. Until they become inconvenient, demanding healthcare and housing and food and shit. Then they’re just another freeloader.

  301. 301.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    Trump is running out of energy. They better wrap this up quickly.

  302. 302.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    Keep Guantánamo open! “Yeah!” from the audience.

  303. 303.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    @Steeplejack: Only Americans can immigrate to the US.

  304. 304.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:16 pm

    “Our warriors in Afghanistan have new rules of engagement.” Can we just have soldiers, not “warriors”?

  305. 305.

    magurakurin

    January 30, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    @Mary G: well, duh. That’s how were gonna make more nuclear families. Like that one mutant guy in the first season of Heroes…many more like that.

  306. 306.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    Damn it, I need another drink, but I’m pinned down on live-blogging duty. Medic!

  307. 307.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    This has taken a weird second half turn.

  308. 308.

    JWR

    January 30, 2018 at 10:18 pm

    Yeah, it’s time to take the gloves off, just like Bush the Smaller and Tony Blair did 16+ years ago. (‘Cause it worked so well the last time.)

  309. 309.

    Bill Arnold

    January 30, 2018 at 10:18 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    And? But a major applause line. WTF.

    That was wingnut talking point code/leadup for Guantanamo and torture.

  310. 310.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:18 pm

    @Steeplejack: Actually as the guy who did the terrorism and recidivism briefing for SOCOM’s Operations Directorate back in 2009, I can unequivocally say this is not true.

  311. 311.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:18 pm

    Okay, making a drink run to the kitchen. Cover me!

  312. 312.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 10:18 pm

    God, shut up already.

  313. 313.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:19 pm

    Uh oh! NoKo!!

  314. 314.

    Mike in DC

    January 30, 2018 at 10:19 pm

    Jesus. It really is the Archie Bunker presidency. Early Archie, at that.

  315. 315.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 30, 2018 at 10:19 pm

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho:

    Imma go try to find an emotional support scorpion after all.

    I could use one as well.

  316. 316.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 10:19 pm

    I am getting to the point where my brain can no longer track his words. The bizarre intonation, the repetitiousness, the need for groups of three, groups of three, groups of three, the favorite words (great, beautiful will be banned from presidential speeches in the future), the total lack of theme. It’s so much work to track.

    Just now, for example: The JCPOA is the worst deal in the world, but Venezuela is worse, and North Korea is worse than that.

  317. 317.

    Aleta

    January 30, 2018 at 10:19 pm

    state of confusion cause what about Russia

  318. 318.

    psycholinguist

    January 30, 2018 at 10:19 pm

    @Corner Stone: really strange right? he’s slowing down and slurring his speech. past his bedtime by about three hours i guess.

  319. 319.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:21 pm

    I’m back. “Mistakes of past administrations that got us in this dangerous position.” Let me guess—Korea?

    ETA: Nailed it.

  320. 320.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:21 pm

    @Steeplejack: He’s talking about WarmBeer so you have a minute to retrench.

  321. 321.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: Normally it is Chinese officials who do the groups of three patterns in their official speeches. Then within the groups of three, they like to break things down into reciprocal/relational pairs.

  322. 322.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    @psycholinguist: He’s pausing at strange points. I thought he was going to stop before announcing the family there for a second. That was almost two seconds before he continued.

  323. 323.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:23 pm

    God, parents of the American kid held prisoner in North Korea who later died are in the gallery. Again, weeping. Maybe not on cue, but why in the fuck put yourself through this?!

  324. 324.

    JWR

    January 30, 2018 at 10:23 pm

    Love to see a breakdown of this “speech”, highlighting how much of it was dedicated to policy, vs. how much to congratulating audience members.

  325. 325.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:23 pm

    This is just sick.

  326. 326.

    Neldob

    January 30, 2018 at 10:23 pm

    He is so cruel how he has displayed grieving parents and families. What an unbelievably sickening spectacle.

  327. 327.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:25 pm

    Okay, this story about the North Korean urchin (grown up now, in the gallery, of course) sounds like complete bullshit. He “endured multiple amputations.” That should be a small integer number, right?

  328. 328.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:25 pm

    “What the regime fears most—truth.” Talking about North Korea or us? Not clear.

  329. 329.

    Soprano2

    January 30, 2018 at 10:26 pm

    Can doctors grow new legs for people now? I’d have thought we’d know about that if it were true.

  330. 330.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:26 pm

    Did he just say 150 years ago?

  331. 331.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 10:26 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: That would be more interesting.

  332. 332.

    Gravenstone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:27 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: No one introduce him to the Fallout game series. He’ll demand we start collecting mini-nukes.

  333. 333.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:27 pm

    Stephen Miller take a bow on this part.

  334. 334.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:27 pm

    Goddamn it, housecat demanding supper No. 2. Honey, we’re on deadline here! Kitchen run.

  335. 335.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:28 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: Usually it is. Because they’re very, very good at being patronizing and insulting while making it sound like they’re being complimentary and welcoming.

  336. 336.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:28 pm

    Oh, fuck. Rethugs breaking out into rhythmic clapping and “USA! USA! USA!” This is a complete farce.

  337. 337.

    JWR

    January 30, 2018 at 10:28 pm

    USAUSAUSA! Yee-Hawww!

  338. 338.

    Mike in DC

    January 30, 2018 at 10:28 pm

    @Corner Stone: “The battle with the guards…was magnificent. Your…skill…is…extraordinary. And…I was going to ask you…to join us.” Shih Kien memorized all his English dialogue in Enter the Dragon phonetically, because he spoke no English.

  339. 339.

    psycholinguist

    January 30, 2018 at 10:28 pm

    @Corner Stone: I swear I think his dentures are coming loose.

  340. 340.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:28 pm

    Somebody needs to get the hook out and ready. Trump is about to run out of batteries.

  341. 341.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 10:28 pm

    Trump gets what he wants: The Republicans chant USA USA USA USA USA

    Really

  342. 342.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    The GOP Congressman and Senators are actually screaming USA! USA!

    What is this a pro wrestling match with Hacksaw Jim Duggan?

  343. 343.

    Bill Arnold

    January 30, 2018 at 10:29 pm

    Love to see a breakdown of this “speech”, highlighting how much of it was dedicated to policy, vs. how much to congratulating audience members.

    Feels about 80 percent praise of audience members and Real Americans to make malignant points (many of which are wingnut talking points or Trump campaign talking points), 15 percent praise of himself, and 5 percent policy. I haven’t heard a single coherent policy proposal, just a few promises, but wasn’t paying full attention. The North Korea bit about how previous presidents failed was very scary to hear out loud.

  344. 344.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    All of these police, military and first responders that Trump is rhapsodizing about are government employees. How does he square this circle? Never mind. Question never comes up.

  345. 345.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 30, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    “USA! USA!! USA! USA!!”

    Holy fuck.

  346. 346.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    @Mike in DC: The people…dreamed this country. The people…built this country. And it is the people…making this country…great again.

  347. 347.

    Lizzy L

    January 30, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    I’m out. Time to settle down with a good book.

  348. 348.

    Aleta

    January 30, 2018 at 10:30 pm

    Just doin’ the lord’s work giving the Religious right the go ahead to lift up all these people in churchly prayer.

  349. 349.

    Anne Laurie

    January 30, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Some stylish guy in a suit next to the hero is chewing gum.

    Nicorette, maybe?

    Goddess knows I’d need something to get me through this without causing a scene, and the Capital screeners don’t permit flasks…

  350. 350.

    Bill Arnold

    January 30, 2018 at 10:31 pm

    How many “USAs” after he finished? 10?

  351. 351.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:32 pm

    Okay, if a bomb went off in the chamber—just blue-skyin’ here—yeah, we’d lose some Democrats, but, silver lining, that would open up the field for the young leadership we’ve been wanting in the party. Just sayin’.

  352. 352.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 10:32 pm

    Trump's glee in recounting horror stories is just obscene. This isn't a State of the Union, it's ghoul hour on some schlock cable channel.

    — Daniel Benjamin (@Benjamin05055) January 31, 2018

  353. 353.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:32 pm

    @Bill Arnold:

    I haven’t heard a single coherent policy proposal

    It wasn’t actually coherent, but the only policy he actually put it out there was $1.5T for infrastructure. The immigration stuff wasn’t actual policy goals.

  354. 354.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:32 pm

    And we’re done. I am spent. Will now go back and actually read the thread. [Slurps drink.]

  355. 355.

    Gravenstone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:33 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Question is, who stage managed that? My money is one of the Kings, they’re about that dense. Although some Freedumb Caucus back bencher looking for their moment in the spotlight also applies.

  356. 356.

    Anne Laurie

    January 30, 2018 at 10:34 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Actually as the guy who did the terrorism and recidivism briefing for SOCOM’s Operations Directorate back in 2009, I can unequivocally say this is not true.

    What, you expect Trump’s Troops to be able to tell all those brown people apart?

  357. 357.

    WaterGirl

    January 30, 2018 at 10:34 pm

    @Steeplejack: Are you watching Designated Survivor?

  358. 358.

    Cheryl Rofer

    January 30, 2018 at 10:34 pm

    Okay y’all. I’ll turn the after-speech duty over to whoever wants it. I’m gonna go sit with my kittehs and read the paper.

  359. 359.

    El Caganer

    January 30, 2018 at 10:35 pm

    @Soprano2: Isn’t that one of those things that Frederick Douglass is getting recognized for more and more?

  360. 360.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:36 pm

    Maddow calls it a “lumbering pace”. HA!
    /tweety

  361. 361.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 10:36 pm

    No mention at all of either Russia or the Russia investigation, it suddenly dawns on me.

  362. 362.

    El Caganer

    January 30, 2018 at 10:38 pm

    I gotta stand up and admit I’m in awe: he has succeeded in turning the State of the Union address to Congress into one of his MAGA rallies full of braying pinheads. Is there anything this man can’t do?

  363. 363.

    Neldob

    January 30, 2018 at 10:38 pm

    I need a drink.

  364. 364.

    Another Scott

    January 30, 2018 at 10:40 pm

    @Corner Stone: I didn’t watch the speech.

    Repost from a few days ago. RollCall:

    Trump Adviser Says Infrastructure Push Won’t Have New Revenue
    Amtrak, transit programs will be cut instead, he says

    Posted Jan 25, 2018 5:24 PM

    Jacob Fischler @fischlerCQ

    The White House says it will not include any new revenue sources to finance its plan for about $200 billion in infrastructure spending. (Scott J. Ferrell/CQ Roll Call file photo)

    White House infrastructure adviser DJ Gribbin told a gathering of the U.S. Conference of Mayors on Thursday that the Trump administration’s upcoming infrastructure proposal will not include any new revenue to pay for $200 billion of new federal spending.

    The White House’s proposal, to be released one to two weeks after the Jan. 30 State of the Union address, would be paid for with money from existing transportation programs, Gribbin said, adding that existing formula funding for major programs would not be touched. He later clarified that certain federal transportation money, including for Amtrak and transit programs, would be cut to pay for the program.

    “There are reductions, as you know in last year’s budget, when it comes to Amtrak, when it comes to transit, when it comes to a number of programs,” he said. “We will propose repurposing those dollars. What we’re not proposing is, you know, eliminating the Highway Trust Fund or eliminating state revolving funds. So the major delivery mechanisms for funding infrastructure should remain in place. We do want to repurpose some dollars.”

    […]

    It’s a scam. Of course.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  365. 365.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:40 pm

    @El Caganer:

    Is there anything this man can’t do?

    See his pen!s when he’s naked and looks down?

  366. 366.

    Mary G

    January 30, 2018 at 10:40 pm

    Second longest SOTU in history.

  367. 367.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 30, 2018 at 10:40 pm

    @Neldob: Don’t we all? Just for living in this country since November of ’16.

  368. 368.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:41 pm

    I just put up a fresh thread for the official Democratic responses by VA Delegate Guzman and Congressman Kennedy.

  369. 369.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:41 pm

    @Another Scott: Of course it’s a fucking scam. But that was it. That was all there was in this almost hour long lumbering speech. The rest was callouts.

  370. 370.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:41 pm

    @Steeplejack: One reference to Russia, in the same sentence as China, as a rising threat. That was it.

  371. 371.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 30, 2018 at 10:42 pm

    @Corner Stone: Well played.

  372. 372.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:42 pm

    @Steeplejack: I may have missed it but did he even mention Melania?

  373. 373.

    Mike in DC

    January 30, 2018 at 10:43 pm

    Fuck, that was a terrible speech. Terrible on substance, terrible as written, terrible delivery.

  374. 374.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:43 pm

    @Gravenstone: I have no idea.

  375. 375.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:44 pm

    @Anne Laurie: Given LTG McMaster has a copy of that briefing somewhere…

  376. 376.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:45 pm

    @Mary G: And not in actual amount of words. Just in pauses for applause.

  377. 377.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:46 pm

    @Corner Stone: He mentioned her in his greeting at the beginning of his speech between the congressional leadership and the American people. Referred to her as the First Lady, not by name.

  378. 378.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    January 30, 2018 at 10:46 pm

    So has it been called “Presidental” yet?

    I am so disappointed no Trump call out to Stormy Daniels or the Gorilla Channel.

  379. 379.

    Mike in DC

    January 30, 2018 at 10:47 pm

    Ginger Christopher Reeve doing pretty good so far.

  380. 380.

    debbie

    January 30, 2018 at 10:48 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Thanks for your commentary. I couldn’t bear to watch it myself.

  381. 381.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 10:50 pm

    @debbie: Hey! I took a bullet in my ceramic plate inserts, too!

  382. 382.

    Bill Arnold

    January 30, 2018 at 10:51 pm

    @Bill Arnold:
    I forgot about the scaremongering about MS-13 and North Korea.
    Revised estimate: 70 percent praise of audience members and Real Americans to make malignant points (many of which are wingnut talking points or Trump campaign talking points), 15 percent praise of himself, 10 percent scaremongering, and 5 percent policy.

  383. 383.

    burnspbesq

    January 30, 2018 at 10:51 pm

    @Jonny Scrum-half:

    but scoffing at an extra $2000/year isn’t how we’re going to win.

    Making sure that people know that number is a fucking lie is how we’re going to win.

    At least make some effort to stay in touch with reality,

  384. 384.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 10:51 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: Here you go:

    This speech represents the presidential performance that Trump observers have been waiting for – brilliant mix of numbers and stories, humility and aggressiveness, traditional conservatism and political populism.

    Only one word qualifies: Wow. #SOTU

    — Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) January 31, 2018

  385. 385.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 30, 2018 at 10:53 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: sounds like “The Gorilla Channel”

  386. 386.

    Jonny Scrum-half

    January 30, 2018 at 10:54 pm

    @Inventor: Yes. Mine probably will, too. But for people who are benefitting, telling them that they’re not isn’t going to work.

  387. 387.

    mai naem mobile

    January 30, 2018 at 10:57 pm

    @psycholinguist: Dr Ronnie Jackson M.D. said he didn’t have dentures.

  388. 388.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 30, 2018 at 11:05 pm

    Wilmer is on youtube right now, struggling with the teleprompter and denouncing “Huggies”

  389. 389.

    J R in WV

    January 30, 2018 at 11:05 pm

    Well, I’ve been watching and listening to Rachmaninoff’s Piano Concertos, now on the Third, Opus 30, played by Anna Fedorova at the Concertgebow in the Netherlands.Young woman, attractive, killing it on a giant Steinway & Sons piano.

    I watched and listened to about 45 seconds of Drumpf’s missive, I caught the part where he promised that he would have a bill to Congress to stop paying foreign aid to countries who are Not Our Friends, that we gave away 60 Billion dollars to countries that voted against us in the UN, and THAT WAS GOING TO STOP!!!

    I also saw where the Korean expert who had been expected to take the position of ambassador to South Korea got fired for disapproving of starting a war on the Korean peninsula, before even being officially appointed.

    I stopped there, and I expect that since I was watching a broadcast via an antenna up on the ridge I won’t affect his ratings at all. Back to Ms Fedorova’s most excellent piano playing.

  390. 390.

    Adam L Silverman

    January 30, 2018 at 11:05 pm

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: In his case shouldn’t that be depends.

  391. 391.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    January 30, 2018 at 11:06 pm

    Lights went out at Wilmer’s studio.
    (no joke)
    youtube.com/watch?v=c2ibkHGRyaQ

    Ooooof

  392. 392.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 11:06 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    No. I was tempted, but I’m trying to cut down on my network TV viewing. And Kiefer Sutherland burned me bad on the interminable later 24 seasons.

  393. 393.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 11:08 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Yeah, at the very beginning, when he was acknowledging his audience.

  394. 394.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 11:11 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Fuck you, Frank Luntz, you fucking fuck. Better be taking tumbrel-riding lessons.

  395. 395.

    Steeplejack

    January 30, 2018 at 11:19 pm

    @debbie:

    Thank you. As a shoe-leather newspaper reporter back in the day I sat through many an awful speech. Being able to do it at home with liquor and no pants is a walk in the park.

  396. 396.

    debbie

    January 30, 2018 at 11:31 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    You were particularly pithy tonight. Thanks to you too.

  397. 397.

    Corner Stone

    January 30, 2018 at 11:59 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    and no pants

    One of us! One of us! One of us!

  398. 398.

    Corner Stone

    January 31, 2018 at 12:00 am

    I am pushing this thread to four bells all by myself if I have to.

  399. 399.

    Steeplejack

    January 31, 2018 at 12:02 am

    @Corner Stone:

    As efgoldman so wisely put it, putting on pants and taking off pants is hard work. I’m streamlining my life.

  400. 400.

    Steeplejack

    January 31, 2018 at 12:05 am

    @Corner Stone:

    Ding, ding, ding! Er, ding.

  401. 401.

    LanceThruster

    January 31, 2018 at 1:17 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Don’t watch that much TYT but know I agree with Jimmy on most things. His critiques of both the Kennedy and Bernie rebuttal was spot on. He called Bernie out for his Russiagate claims and war votes. The Bernie Bro dig is a bit tired.

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