Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

I know this must be bad for Joe Biden, I just don’t know how.

A lot of Dems talk about what the media tells them to talk about. Not helpful.

A snarling mass of vitriolic jackals

You can’t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

Happy indictment week to all who celebrate!

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

“And when the Committee says to “report your income,” that could mean anything!

In my day, never was longer.

Jack Smith: “Why did you start campaigning in the middle of my investigation?!”

Thanks for reminding me that Van Jones needs to be slapped.

Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.

Second rate reporter says what?

Let me eat cake. The rest of you could stand to lose some weight, frankly.

We are aware of all internet traditions.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires

Prediction: the GOP will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

Good lord, these people are nuts.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

We still have time to mess this up!

People are complicated. Love is not.

He really is that stupid.

Conservatism: there are some people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

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Ooo, look, so many Very Serious People using words like “treason”, this time against Republicans, most especially the Repubs who worked on Trump’s 2016 campaign! Could not be happening to a more deserving gang of revanchists and revenants…


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There’s TALK…


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Anybody heard from Rudy lately?


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And what of James Comey, (newly) Brave Truth-Tweeter?…

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231Comments

  1. 1.

    Baud

    Not to be forgotten is Comey’s completely out-of-bounds opinionating of Hillary’s email practices when announcing the first time that there was no crime.

  2. 2.

    Gemina13

    It’s not a coincidence that this is happening in the face of the beginnings of an overdue market correction, the popping of the cryptocurrencies bubble, the fears that another real estate bubble is in place, and the realization that the Democrats’ warning over Paul Ryan’s tax cuts was correct.

    The Republicans thought they’d escaped the effects of Trump’s fecal touch last year. This year has barely started, but now they’re mired neck-deep in shit.

  3. 3.

    Ohio Mom

    I’m wondering if there is anyone besides me not watching the game, who is going to comment on this thread.

    ETA: My question is answered: while I was typing, Baud and Gemina showed up. I have company!

  4. 4.

    Gemina13

    @Baud: Yes.

    People around me are hailing Comey as a patriot and a hero. I see him as a man desperate to remedy his monumental fuckups.

  6. 6.

    Thoughtful David

    Comey doesn’t get off for the “thinking Clinton was going to win” crap. The FBI does not get to decide who the next president is going to be, and they don’t get to tip the election one way or another even if they don’t think it will change the election. That’s acting politically, and I think Obama should have fired Comey’s ass and made a loud statement about why. Comey made the FBI into a political hacking organization, and that’s sedition. He needs to hang for it, no matter how he tries to now atone.

    ETA: He needs to hang as an example for the future. The FBI does not get to interfere in elections.

  7. 7.

    jl

    I heard some clips of Gowdy crapping all over the Nunes’ memoghazipallozzagate. Which surprised me. Hard for me to listen to GOPers these days even when they make sense and tell the truth. Espeically Gowdy after his Benghazi farce, and backfired attempt to smear HRC. So, I’ll look for where he appeared and read the transcript.

    I don’t know how Gowedy expects the get a federal judicial appointment after his performance this weekend. He has obviously firmly established himself as disloyal and unsound by Trumspter standards. But, he is one of the few Congresscritters to have read all the supporting material. Maybe he’s decided that after sufficient vacation and R&R to recover from the bullshit, the Trumspters won’t be in charge of nominating federal judges?

    But if someone knows a sinister interpretation of Gowdy’s actions, let me know. I can barely stand to listen to him talk at this point.

  10. 10.

    Ohio Mom

    @Baud: of course! Anybody who wants to be president must be able to multi-task. In this, as with so much else, Trump is the exception to the rule.

  11. 11.

    Tenar Arha

    @Baud: I’ve started writing the first sentences I’d like to see in his obituary any number of times at this point.

    ETA I’ve tried Ryan’s but can’t stop calling him the ZEGS

  12. 12.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Ohio Mom: I’m not watching the game. I’m marking up a thesis for a friend’s son. Have the Puppy Bowl on for background noise. And when I finish with the thesis I have something else to do around the house followed by dinner.

  13. 13.

    schrodingers_cat

    Has anyone noticed how many “serious” columnists have jumped on to the restrictive immigration agenda, now that is the official R party line? Rs say jump, “centrist” media whores say, how high?
    I am looking at you, Fareed Zakaria, Ross Douthat and Peter Beinart and am sure many others who I am forgetting.

  16. 16.

    lowtechcyclist

    Ooo, look, so many Very Serious People using words like “treason”, this time against Republicans,

    Since I don’t follow the VSPs that closely, can you give some names?

    Yesterday, Rep. Nadler made the argument that the House Republicans generally are actively taking the side of Russia v. the U.S. by having supported the release of the Nunes memo.

    And I agree totally. The GOP has become a traitorous fifth column in our midst. (Maybe the worthless Andrew Sullivan, who’s written in the past about fifth columns, should point this out, since apparently there’s still people out there who cares what he says.)

  17. 17.

    Adam L Silverman

    @jl: He turned down the Federal judicial appointment. That was reported last week. He’s going home and opening a private legal practice.

  21. 21.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Ohio Mom: Not watching either. Cooking some spectacular quesadillas while the kids watch “Dinosaur Train” on TV – seems like a good way to avoid the Superb Owl.

  24. 24.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Ohio Mom:

    I’m wondering if there is anyone besides me not watching the game, who is going to comment on this thread.

    Stopped watching football back in 2012, when I was reading Ta-Nehisi Coates’ blog regularly, and he was writing about CTE.

    So just another Sunday evening at the ltc household.

  25. 25.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud: You mean when he took time out of his busy day to scold Hillary for her bad judgment and her behavior, even if there was no crime? (Or am I remembering that wrong?)

  27. 27.

    opiejeanne

    @Ohio Mom: I was watching it and playing in the previous thread but now I’m in, needed to lie down on my stomach for a while but I can hear the game in the next room
    I may fall asleep soon.

  29. 29.

    jl

    @Adam L Silverman: Thanks for info. Something like that crossed my mind when I heard him implicitly damn, disown and dump on the Nunes’ effort. I though, gee, maybe he’s aiming for SC state court, he ain’t getting anything from the Trumpsters now, excepting maybe deranged looney toons attack tweets from Trump himself.

  30. 30.

    MisterForkbeard

    @WaterGirl: And then had to walk some of it back a few days later when he admitted it would have been completely reasonable to not know the emails were classified given how they were all incorrectly marked.

    I’ve been pissed at him ever since. He got his headlines on scolding he KNEW was incorrect.

  33. 33.

    Mary G

    I am lying in bed with a cat and listening to an audiobook. Very cozy. Shortly a nap will appear? Probably.

  34. 34.

    jl

    @? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: I have such a dim view of Gowdy, my first thought was he has recently come to know stuff that caused a self-preservation flight instinct to kick in. Maybe similar to the fast exit by the even more dishonest, dishonorable, miserable and contemptible Chaffetz. A pattern emerging?

    Edit: and maybe his very definite damns of Nunes’ BS was an attempt to make his future interview with Mueller less stressful and lower the stakes? Nothing or a slap on the wrist versus getting sucked into the wringer with the worst of the Trumpster gang?

  35. 35.

    Lizzy L

    Not watching. I’m considering a nap: I was up at 4 am. Of course, the minute I fall asleep someone will call me on the phone.

  36. 36.

    TS

    @Thoughtful David:

    Obama should have fired Comey’s ass

    The outcome of trump firing Comey is probably much better than would have happened if President Obama had fired him – despite the latter had every reason to do so.

  40. 40.

    Adam L Silverman

    @jl: The GOP in SC wanted him to accept the SC supreme court chief justice spot, but he turned that down last year to stand for reelection to Congress.

  45. 45.

    No Drought No More

    This morning- for the first time since the event- I felt the exact same vibe I long ago felt as The Trickster was hanging by his nails during the summer of ’74, before he was toppled and ran out of town in disgrace. Not Sally Quinn’s town, either. We ran him out of OUR town. Felt good, too.

  46. 46.

    jl

    @Adam L Silverman: Interesting zig-zags in his career interests.

    Remember Chaffetz’ similar behavior: ” I’m retiring ” “What, this is unexpected, so this will be your last term” “Oh geez no. I’m outta here, just got my plane ticket back to Utah, Sorry gotta run to catch a plane. Talk later, OK?”

  47. 47.

    Schlemazel

    @eclare:
    The Dodge ad was a shot at the Vikings, not GoT
    @Baud:
    The guy who wrote that ad should eat one. Along with the rapping lipsync one

  49. 49.

    WaterGirl

    @Adam L Silverman: After her turned that down, I looked more closely at some stuff Gowdy had said. I wondered if he was going to try for being a prosecutor again. I was a good prosecutor, I am not a very good politician, or something close to that. Do you thunk there’s any merit to my speculation?

  51. 51.

    Cermet

    The FBI, not unlike the CIA is staffed by many right-wing agents. Now they are learning what really matters to thug congresscreatures – they suck the ass of the kock sucker brothers and anyone who will see to it the money flows. They don’t give a shit about their oath nor the US of A. Still, after the orange fart cloud is gone, they will revert back to their right wing worship of the thug party. Like deficient’s mattered to thugs with a dem president but both they and the whore media forget that issue as soon as the fake news channel developed a new liar to peddle.

  53. 53.

    Thoughtful David

    @TS: Maybe in the end it will turn out so, but the second part of my statement is important: After firing him, Obama should have laid out why–that the FBI doesn’t get to tilt the playing field in elections even a teeny little bit. As it is now, the FBI can make those decisions, and if Trump hadn’t had another issue and tried to cover it up, Comey would have set the precedent.

    Actually, he DID set the precedent, it’s just, as you say, because of the special conditions of this case that it may turn out better that it was Trump who fired him.

  62. 62.

    Cheryl Rofer

    I am writing some stuff on the Nuclear Posture Review that you all will eventually see. I cleaned the house too. Kind of chilling now, slowly adding to the NPR writing.

  67. 67.

    WaterGirl

    @Adam L Silverman: I think all Gowdy wants right now is for the treason and collusion cooties to not stick to him personally. As I said yesterday, you know you are way out of bounds if you’ve lost Trey Gowdy.

  74. 74.

    Phylllis

    @Adam L Silverman: Joe ‘You Lie’ Wilson’s son, Alan is the current AG & seems content to park his carcass in that spot for the foreseeable future. Unless maybe dad is thinking of moving aside so Alan can run for his seat.

  76. 76.

    NotMax

    Atty Gen Jeff Sessions went off script at human trafficking event this morn

    Which side was he on? Did he put in many bids during the auction?

  79. 79.

    Ruckus

    @Gemina13:
    You go to bed with shit you wake up smelling like shit.
    You elect shit, you have shit politicians.

    The definitions of the republican party.

  82. 82.

    Corner Stone

    @Baud: I thought they did that years ago?
    I had just seen Blount score a TD and you were commenting about a missed 2 point attempt.

  89. 89.

    Immanentize

    Just a reminder,
    1) Sessions supporting Rosenstein is life insurance for the AG
    2). Rosenstein was absolutely right in his letter regarding how reprehensible Comey’s acts were.

  96. 96.

    Steeplejack

    @Ohio Mom:

    I’m watching the game and reading this thread. But I’m home alone with the housecat, so I don’t have to be social. And I’ve got the DVR to go back in case I miss something.

  97. 97.

    eclare

    @John Revolta: That makes sense. I seem to recall they were reluctant to let the Civil Rights Museum here have any clips/likenesses, but since that is a museum, not much ka-ching. Let me say it’s weird to go there and not have much on display about MLK. That was years ago, maybe it has improved.

  98. 98.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    I’m still running on 3 hours sleep, but got everything accomplished that I needed to do today: finally did the hike by the ol’ reactor that had the meltdown, got a TAP card for madame, saw the F-1 rocket engine and a Costco run. All I have to do now is feed and walk the girls.

  99. 99.

    GregB

    @Gemina13:

    The Asian markets are getting hammered today and also the new chairman Powell takes over for the steady hand of Yellin.

    These fucking idiots are now going to be living in Trump’s world of shit.

  100. 100.

    Ken

    @Corner Stone:

    I don’t even understand what is going on here.

    Are you talking about the game thread, the Nunes/Comey/Trump thread, or the way the two are interlaced? Because I’m finding the last pretty confusing, though the interactions are sometimes pleasant in a surreal way.

  102. 102.

    TS

    @Thoughtful David: The problem would have been the media reaction to anything that Obama did or said. It would have been preached to the masses as a political issue to favor Hillary Clinton. This does not preclude that Obama had every right and could have fired Comey. At a time in the future he might right a book about why he didn’t.
    And as you say, Comey did set a precedent – after his sacking by trump he seems to be trying to walk that back (or maybe I imagine this)

  105. 105.

    jl

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: ” I’m not watching, I’m letting Baud do it for me. ”

    Blind leading the blind.
    Edit: that was not a diss, that is the admirable essence of ‘In Baud We Trust!’

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: ‘ did the hike by the ol’ reactor that had the meltdown ” Sounds like you needed to refuel.

  108. 108.

    Princess

    The weird thing about Gowdy is that a day or so before he resigned, he was defending the memo, saying it should be released, saying it would humiliate the Dems. Next thing you know he has resigned, and then he trashes the memo. There’s a story there.

  109. 109.

    JR

    So, uh, you’re basically running over your opponent with every back in your arsenal

    On third and one you go for the pass out of the empty backfield

  114. 114.

    Schlemazel

    @Ken:
    Politics is just to depressing because even after Dump & his fellow travelers are out or in prison the mess left behind is going to take 2 generations to clean up. So instead I ma focused on the circus.

    SPeaking of which I love that NE just got touched because the Eagle QB can catch & Brady can’t

  115. 115.

    gbbalto

    @Cermet: I think that a lot of them are realizing that the Repubs will kick them to the curb just to cover their asses, which the Dems have not done and will not do, whatever they think about dealings with the Dems. May change some folks’ point of view.
    ETA – One can hope, but these are not dumb people

  116. 116.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    Not a huge sportsball fan, but I’m rooting for the Eagles and even I can tell that last touchdown play by the Iggles was pretty slick.

  122. 122.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @WaterGirl: I figure it’s something like that, but how does announcing he’s resigning and repeatedly talling us all how he’s all 100% behind Mueller help him avoid whatever is going to stick to him? I just can’t figure out what’s happening with Gowdy.

    I do believe that things are accelerating in the Mueller investigation. Hell, Republicans may start getting worried enough that they actually start using their investigation to call witnesses and learn stuff.

    On a more important subject, is there a way to watch video of the Puppy Bowl after the fact? All I’ve found is still images.

  123. 123.

    jl

    @NotMax: Should post Ashcroft’s styling if the Eagles win. I’m not watching, but for me, that will be enough to make it great super bowl.

  126. 126.

    Nicole

    @Princess: Gowdy hasn’t resigned, correct? He’s said he’s not running for reelection.

    I mean yeah, it seems like the pattern goes, announce not running for reelection, announce resigning in upcoming months, whoops out the door, but so far he is still in Congress, right?

  127. 127.

    NotMax

    @jl

    Not watching either. Never have; don’t give a fig about who’s playing or anything else about it.

  128. 128.

    jl

    @NotMax: I typed in the previous thread that I think the Warriors will thrash the Giants. So, watching any of it risks great confusion for me.

  130. 130.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Nicole: Correct. He announced he isn’t running, but he’s still in Congress. Same deal as with a lot of Republicans, including our local odious Tea Partier, Pat Meehan.

  133. 133.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    @Ohio Mom: Raises hand. I’m late, because reasons (mainly we ate out). Do you have your sign yet?

    @jl: I thought I read he’s forsaken the whole judgeship plan. I know I read someone (Schindler, that asshole) say , about his comment that the “memo” will have no consequence for the Russia investigation: that’s Gowdy being Gowdy, he’s a snake but he’s no fool and he knows where this is all headed. Paraphrased, of course.

  135. 135.

    Schlemazel

    Cheeze! I thought football dragged on endlessly, it is nothing compared to this “entertainment”

  136. 136.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    Watching the old Netflix Documentary Winter on Fire about Ukraine’s democracy protests in 2013, thinking this is coming for us soon. Anyone watched Babylon Berlin yet?

  137. 137.

    NotMax

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym

    Would not discount the timing in at least some cases is because the clock has chimed for them on this:.

    Members of Congress are eligible for a pension at the age of 62 if they have completed at least five years of service. Members are eligible for a pension at age 50 if they have completed 20 years of service, or at any age after completing 25 years of service. The amount of the pension depends on years of service and the average of the highest three years of salary. By law, the starting amount of a Member’s retirement annuity may not exceed 80% of his or her final salary.

  142. 142.

    Gin & Tonic

    @Mr Stagger Lee:

    about Ukraine’s democracy protests in 2013, thinking this is coming for us soon.

    Americans don’t have the patience for that kind of protest.

  143. 143.

    NotMax

    @Mr Stagger Lee

    Have only watched the first episode thus far, so not enough immersion to form anything approaching a cogent opnion other than to say it certainly is lavish.

  148. 148.

    NotMax

    @NotMax

    Addendum:

    The English dubbing is kind of flat and passionless; switched over to the original German with English subtitles and it became more interesting.

  149. 149.

    TomV

    So some kid is right in the middle of the finale of the Super Bowl half time show, and he spends the whole time standing next to Justin Timberlake trying to adjust his phone. Bring back the left shark!!

  152. 152.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    @Princess: I think the story is that he’s seen the actual intel underlying the FISA application and he’s no fool. He resigned from the House Ethics Committee but is (at this stage) retiring from Congress, to wit, not running for reelection.

  156. 156.

    tbf

    I think Comey broke the law as Harry Reid stated in his letter. I also find the stuff about pressure from the New York office really disingenuous- the top law enforcement official breaking the law and interfering in elections because he fears his own subordinates, or because he thinks that one side is going to win anyway is a sign of incompetence and a contempt for the oath he took.

    I would have been fine, indeed supported it if the orange homonculus fired him immediately after taking office, because I think this is the least that Comey deserved. The problem is that Comey got lucky in the circumstances of his firing, it being an attempt to obstruct justice by the homonculus.

  157. 157.

    Aleta

    @TomV: Kid might be a conceptual artist remarking on the futility of the choice to pay attention in this — . (no not really)

  159. 159.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    @NotMax: Same here, though watching some German cinema, it is probably going to get weird, then again Berlin in the twenties was very interesting.

  162. 162.

    mike in dc

    5 more memos? The Dems are going to need some accurate counter-battery fire for this new onslaught of bullshit.

  165. 165.

    StringOnAStick

    Raw Story says axios has reported that Nunes has as many as 5 more memos coming, and guess what? Collusion by HRC supporters like Blumenthal!

    Nunes reminds me of a kid who jus learned about knockknock jokes and is now pounding the concept to death. He’s going for the old standards though: evil Hillary wasn’t playing fair, burn her!

  170. 170.

    Ruckus

    @Nicole:
    How much time does he have left – if he doesn’t run he’s out in a year. If he resigns then probably a replacement fills his seat. If he stays it gives the party a chance to find a replacement to run and gives them time to attempt to destroy any democratic chances. He is after all a far right republican, no matter what he’s doing about this issue. And he’s young enough to build a profitable practice till retirement, which is what it sounds like he is thinking.

  174. 174.

    Repatriated

    @Matt McIrvin:
    “Seward made a lousy deal. I alone can make a better deal. The best deal! Believe me! Once we get rid of those Alaskan losers we’ll be winning bigly!”

  175. 175.

    efgoldman

    @Baud:

    Now Coke is advertising anorexia.

    Whoever in marketing invented the new cans needs to be shown the door. I don’t drink soda, bur you don’t fuck with one of the most recognizable product looks in history

  180. 180.

    efgoldman

    @Corner Stone:

    That looked like PI on Pats.

    Apparently they decided to not call DPI on either team. There have bewen plentyh of pays when they could have (would have in the regular season) but not tonite. Holding, yes, but not PI

  181. 181.

    Patricia Kayden

    @mike in dc: The first one was a dud. Why would the other five be any more successful?

    Looks like Democrats need to go harder against Nunes. Call him a liar. Mock him as Trump’s stool pigeon. Discredit his stories. Most of all, go after his seat hard this November. He doesn’t deserve to be in Congress.

  183. 183.

    Snarki, child of Loki

    @Mr Stagger Lee: I can see the upside of selling Alaska back to the Russians, IF the Palin clan is included.

    I hear that Russia also has its eye on GEORGIA, which is okay, but they have to take Alabama as well. It’s a package deal.

  188. 188.

    cain

    @Gemina13:
    How lovely, and guess who gets stuck with the problems? If it wasn’t for the fact we were slipping towards fascism, I would have enjoyed watching these people running around trying to get Democrats to help them while trying to demagogue them at the same time.

  189. 189.

    Nicole

    @Ruckus: I swear, this thing is all so bizarre that I think the GOP members resigning are doing it because they are trusting that if they’re out of gov’t they’ll escape getting charged with things when it all comes out into the open. They’ll figure the Dems won’t have the appetite to go after this Russia mess to the fullest extent and will limit themselves to those still in gov’t. And they might be right. I’m sure some Dems are getting Russian money, too, and if a real attempt to look into this was made, some of them would fall, too, and I question how much the Dems want to ferret out all of this rot if it takes down some of their own. I hope they’d do the right thing for the nation, but you never know when it’s your friends and colleagues.

    Of course, I’m also the one convinced the NY Times is getting Russian money.

  191. 191.

    rikyrah

    I hope a frontpager sees this scam and highlights it:

    Ivanka, Rubio find a new project: Paid family leave

    Can the duo pining for a softer side of Republicanism win over the GOP?

    By SEUNG MIN KIM

    02/04/2018 06:54 AM EST

    ………………….

    “We still have to work on members of my own party,” Rubio said in an extended interview with POLITICO about his effort. “I think there will be significant initial resistance to it, because it’s just not an issue that’s been identified with the Republican Party.”

    Rubio has barely started crafting a paid leave bill, much less a broader legislative strategy. But he envisions an idea that has recently gained traction in conservative circles: allowing people to draw Social Security benefits when they want to take time off for a new baby or other family-related matters, and then delay their checks when they hit retirement age.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/04/rubio-ivanka-trump-family-leave-385050

  194. 194.

    barb 2

    @Thoughtful David:
    Hang Commie Comey High and let this body rot — let the birds and bugs feed!

    I am against capital punishment but I am willing to make an exception for that sob.

  196. 196.

    rikyrah

    Citizens for Ethics‏Verified account @CREWcrew

    Trump is spending Super Bowl weekend at his own properties. Every time he visits, his business profits off of taxpayer money

  198. 198.

    Ohio Mom

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: Yes, my sign is finished.

    It says “Mr. President, Do YOUR Job: Sanction Russia” and there is a big red silhouette of Russia.

    My thinking was, I am always amazed at the absolute lies Republicans spew. I wanted something verifiable on my sign.

    Trump is visiting a machine tool company. Everyone there works hard, he doesn’t, and I like the contrast.

    I also get some pleasure at the upside-downess of it all: I, who shook my head at the anti-Red hysteria of my youth, am now more anti-Russian than any right-winger.

    Not that this matters because we protesters will be a good distance away from the action. Many roads will be closed, making it hard to get close.

    Also, we protestors must stay on a sidewalk and keep moving, and sidewalks can be scarce in that part of Blue Ash (this area is zoned for light industry). But I expect to have a good time chatting with the other rabble rousers.

  199. 199.

    kattails

    Made nice chicken and rice dish, will get a couple of days’ dinners out of that, made a batch of oatmeal raisin cookies, fed the cats, checked out the comments on BJ in a vain attempt to keep up with political news from those more savvy than I. However, best get back to my deadline work. Cheryl is reading dead trees, I’m having at them with a piece of graphite. And oh shoot, it’s drizzling rain on top of a couple inches of snow.

    I’ve never liked football. Leighton’s painting of “The Gladiator’s Wife”, thread below this one, is haunting, thanks for posting

  201. 201.

    J R in WV

    I made a quick pasta with olive oil, scallops and GARLIC, with Italian cheese, and bubbly Sparkling Reisling wine for dinner, back to the game, which is amazing offensive football.

  202. 202.

    Ohio Mom

    @rikyrah: I saw that earlier and it made me livid. It promotes the misconception that each of us has a Social Security account akin to an IRA. Like all the deductions from your paychecks are sitting in a drawer with your name on it.

    It’s part of the bigger scam to convince everyone that it’s “their” personal money, if you had that money you could have invested it yourself and you’d be rich, rich, rich!

    It’s the old Libertarian schitck that there is no such things as the commons, or to borrow from Maggie, society.

    No, no, no!

  208. 208.

    J R in WV

    Also, of course, following politics here!

    Local fish shop also carries huge garlic bulbs, used about 6 cloves. Yum.

  212. 212.

    Ohio Mom

    @Ohio Mom: To add on to this, just think of the repercussions of agreeing to the idea that if you draw X out of “your” Social Security, you have to work Y more years to retire.

    The next step is changing the Social Security system to: You worked A number of years and put B amount in “your” account, so now you can draw on Social Security for C years. Better not live longer than that!

    Once again though, you have to give those suckers points for creativity, deviousness, and all-around persistence. They never, ever lose sight of their prize, which is dismantling Social Security, and they will never stop looking for new angles.

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    Another Scott

    @Ohio Mom: Nice sign and slogan – I can picture it.

    Thanks for standing up and making your voice heard! It’s important.

    Good luck.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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    MisterForkbeard

    Eventful night. Had to take the daughter to the ER after she tripped and gashed her scalp. She’s fine and super hopped up on all the cookies and juice she got to eat as a reward for doing well at the hospital.

    Gonna give her lots of hugs tonight.

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    MisterForkbeard

    @WaterGirl: 3 years old, and it bled a LOT. It’s one reason we were really worried for a few minutes. We were more freaked out than the kiddo, to be honest.

    And no stitches. Docs were able to glue it shut.

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    mad citizen

    I’m sure I’m not the only one that finds it very funny that Philly has to grease its poles to get ready for a sports celebration. I’m so old I remember when they threw snowballs at Santa Claus.

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    WaterGirl

    @MisterForkbeard: Oh my gosh, that’s young! I give this a triple-yay. Yay for her not being too freaked out, yay for you guys keeping it together, and yay for no stitches! I like happy endings.

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    PIGL

    @TS: Maybe future Democratic Presidents and Democratic majorities should start acting in their own interests, and be goddamned to what the fucking media and the republicans say: because THEY ARE THE SAME PEOPLE.

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    Omnes Omnibus

    @PIGL: I am more interested in getting Democratic presidents and majorities to worry much about the specifics of their putative behavior. YMMV.

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    MisterForkbeard

    @WaterGirl: It’s better than my record. When I was three, I needed stitches because I walked in front of a metal swing set while a big kid was on it. Whanged me right above the eye and I needed stitches. Still have a small scar.

    So my three year old is clearly doing better than her dad. She was just clumsy rather than stupid, and she got glue instead of stitches. The next generation learns from our mistakes. :)

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    Matt McIrvin

    @MisterForkbeard: One of the several times my sister went to the emergency room around that age was for an incident like that. She was a bit too intrepid for her own good.

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    Ruckus

    @MisterForkbeard:
    First, hope she’s doing well. But kids are pretty resilient and a lot of the time if they don’t know it’s supposed to hurt, it really doesn’t.
    Last surgery I got glue rather than stitches and the scar is different than it would have been with them. But it’s also not visible except under certain circumstances that don’t need to be discussed and I didn’t have to go back to have them removed, which has always been loads of fun. So functionally glue is better. And as I have over the last 5 yrs had far more holes poked in me than in the prior 40, any time I don’t have to have even more holes poked is a good day.

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    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @jl: Gowdy is a lawyer, so Democrat bashing is all fun and games but he didn’t sign up for treason. Small fry like him typical get the worst punishments and he would know that.

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