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You are here: Home / Politics / Activist Judges! / Monday Morning Open Thread: I Am HERE for This Particular Reboot…

Monday Morning Open Thread: I Am HERE for This Particular Reboot…

by Anne Laurie|  February 12, 20184:56 am| 115 Comments

This post is in: Activist Judges!, I'm With Her, Open Threads, Women's Rights Are Human Rights, Daydream Believers

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg:

“I’d like to see in the Constitution a statement that men and women are people of equal citizenship stature. I’d like to see an equal rights amendment in our Constitution.”https://t.co/YKvCNWbrsP

— laura olin (@lauraolin) February 3, 2018

Justice Ginsburg was the honoree at a Columbia University event yesterday, being interviewed by CNN’s Poppy Harlow, and she was (as always) awesome:

…Harlow and Ginsburg held a wide-ranging discussion that also touched on sexism during the 2016 presidential campaign, attacks on the judiciary, the First Amendment, the Equal Rights Amendment and even blindspots on the current court.

Asked directly whether sexism played a role in the last campaign, Ginsburg said, “I think it was difficult for Hillary Clinton to get by, in the macho atmosphere prevailing during that campaign … And she was criticized in a way I think no man would have been criticized,” she said.

“Sexism played a prominent part,” Ginsburg said but stressed that she thought America was ready for a woman president and “will be the next time.”…

The Hill has the video of the whole hour-and-a-half conversation; Ginsburg shows up around minute 12.

And it reminded me — I hadn’t yet found a space to post the report from her previous speech, as reported by the Washington Post

The tote bag Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg carried on stage Thursday night had the words “I dissent” on the outside. Inside, there was a diary entry by German Holocaust victim Anne Frank pondering why women are thought inferior to men. The tiny 84-year-old jurist said America still needs to make equality explicit.

“The genius of our Constitution is that this concept of ‘We the people’ has become ever more embracive,” she told a reverential crowd of 1,400 that greeted and sent off Ginsburg with standing ovations. “Think about what it was in the beginning. … I’d like to see in the Constitution a statement that men and women are people of equal citizenship stature. I’d like to see an equal rights amendment in our Constitution.”…

… Ginsburg gets a personal kind of love from Jewish crowds, which was largely the case [Feb 1], when she filled the huge sanctuary of Adas Israel, a synagogue of the Conservative movement in Northwest D.C.

Introduced Thursday by a female rabbi who painted Ginsburg as a hero of the marginalized in a “dark moment” — ostensibly a Trump moment — the justice also was the subject of a prayer published this week by the feminist Jewish blog Lilith. “A Prayer for RBG’s Long Life” was read on stage:

“You have helped us remain clear — not just on the foundational principles of a nation, but on our Jewish mandate: to welcome the stranger and never to stand idly by. The Hebrew words on your office wall in calligraphy read, ‘Tzedek Tzedek, tirdof: Justice, Justice shalt thou pursue.’ You have. And we’ll keep trying.”…

Just three more states would be needed for full ratification. I know some people argue it’s a distraction, but women have been trying to get this Constitutional validation since 1923. If some people can demand a giant military parade to mark the centenary of the end of WWI, why can’t we demand that women get our own centennial celebration?

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    February 12, 2018 at 5:31 am

     it seemed headed for ratification until Phyllis Schlafly mobilized conservative women in opposition, arguing that the ERA would disadvantage housewives and cause women to be drafted into the military.

    I blame Nancy Pelosi.

  2. 2.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 12, 2018 at 5:42 am

    @Baud: Didn’t Hillary give a speech about this subject to Goldman Sachs?

  3. 3.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    February 12, 2018 at 5:50 am

    Joe Scarborough
    ✔
    @JoeNBC

    WH insiders are saying it’s just a matter of time before Kelly is gone. One source tells me more unflattering stories are coming out against an isolated CoS who has lost the president’s confidence.
    679
    464 people are talking about this

    Looks like Morning Blow and Drumpf are back on speaking terms. “Why can’t I quit you!”

  4. 4.

    Baud

    February 12, 2018 at 5:52 am

    This is my shocked face.

    President Trump is remaking the Republican economic playbook in his own image, abandoning ideological consistency in ­favor of a debt-busting strategy that will upend how Washington taxes and spends trillions of dollars each year.


    On Monday, Trump is slated to announce a new budget plan that will no longer seek to eliminate the deficit over the next decade, forfeiting a major Republican goal, according to three people familiar with the document. The plan will call for a range of spending cuts that reduce the growth of the deficit by $3 trillion over 10 years, but it will not attempt to balance the federal budget, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the proposal before its official release.

    WaPo

  5. 5.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    February 12, 2018 at 5:53 am

    Donald J. Trump
    ‏✔
    @realDonaldTrump

    I am pleased to inform you that I have just named Stormy Daniels as White House Chief of Staff. She is a Great American.

    18,758 replies 23,744 retweets 90,275 likes

  6. 6.

    Baud

    February 12, 2018 at 5:54 am

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: Emphasis on “staff.”

  7. 7.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    February 12, 2018 at 5:56 am

    @Baud: Ba da bump!

  8. 8.

    Baud

    February 12, 2018 at 5:57 am

    @Baud:

    Related story in WaPo

    In budget deal, new signs of clipped wings among GOP’s fiscal hawks

  9. 9.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 12, 2018 at 6:02 am

    @Baud: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….. gasp…. wheeze….BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…..

    Has the GOP ever shown any ideological consistency? Haysoos Crispo, GWB wasn’t that long ago, where in the hell was WaPo then?

  10. 10.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    February 12, 2018 at 6:03 am

    Disneyland resorts raising prices as much as 18 percent

    but, but.. corporations promised to pass along their massive tax windfall onto consumers.

  11. 11.

    Mary G

    February 12, 2018 at 6:04 am

    Right on, sisters! Seems needed more than ever.

  12. 12.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    February 12, 2018 at 6:05 am

    “Our Cartoon President,” the new Showtime series created by Stephen Colbert, debuted on Sunday night and featured the animated version of President Donald Trump delivering his State of the Union speech from the inside of a massive fire truck.

    During cartoon Trump’s speech, he paid special tribute to wife “Melanka” Trump, whom he impulsively decided to name as America’s new official national bird.

    Other highlights from the episode include Melania claiming that Karen Pence tried to baptize her in the reflecting pool in the National Mall; Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump crying after they botched an appearance on Hannity by talking too much about Russia; and Jared Kushner interrupting a conversation between Melania and Ivanka by informing them that they’ll have more time to chit-chat when they’re all in prison.

    They released the full episode on youtube (link). It’s pretty good.

  13. 13.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 12, 2018 at 6:07 am

    @Baud: There are no fiscal hawks in the GOP, don’t think there ever have been. I wish the media would stop.referring to these frauds by the lies they tell about themselves.

  14. 14.

    rikyrah

    February 12, 2018 at 6:08 am

    Good Morning Everyone ???

  15. 15.

    rikyrah

    February 12, 2018 at 6:09 am

    Countdown Clock;
    Four days Until WAKANDA ?????

  16. 16.

    satby

    February 12, 2018 at 6:10 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning rikyrah ?

  17. 17.

    raven

    February 12, 2018 at 6:13 am

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: WTF are you along about?? He’s reaming Trump right now.

  18. 18.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    February 12, 2018 at 6:13 am

    @rikyrah: ☕

    Six o’clock already
    I was just in the middle of a dream
    I was kissin’ Mina Kimes
    By a crystal blue Italian stream
    But I can’t be late
    ‘Cause then I guess I just won’t get paid
    These are the days
    When you wish your bed was already made

  19. 19.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 12, 2018 at 6:20 am

    @rikyrah: Blech.

    ETA, @satby: You too.

  20. 20.

    Raoul

    February 12, 2018 at 6:23 am

    @Baud: Attn WaPo (and all political reporters): C’mon. The GOP has never opposed debt. Not functionally. They make lots of noise about Democratic deficits. But it is pure bullshit to claim that Republicans have favored debt reduction. I’m 52 years old, and I’ve watched every GOP administration since Reagan (elected when I was in high school). They balloon the debt. Period.
    The only admin to have a surplus in more than half a century? Good ol’ Bill Clinton.
    It infuriates me when I see things that still buy in to the utterly fake news that Republicans care about debt. Nope!!

  21. 21.

    Immanentize

    February 12, 2018 at 6:24 am

    @satby: I don’t think I’ve formally welcomed you back. Welcome back.
    (But I did read about the dust and Terra Cotta roadside plants. Fine image that.)

  22. 22.

    Baud

    February 12, 2018 at 6:24 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

  23. 23.

    Frankensteinbeck

    February 12, 2018 at 6:26 am

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
    I’ve heard this tune before. Also ‘Trump is about to fire Mueller’ and ‘Trump is about to fire Sessions.’ They may happen, but I stopped listening to the rumor mill.

  24. 24.

    Raoul

    February 12, 2018 at 6:27 am

    PS: Who on earth gets up this early? (5am central.) We are up because my honey is having outpatient foot surgery this morning, and for whatever reason, surgeons seem to like to operate before dawn. Ugh.

  25. 25.

    Immanentize

    February 12, 2018 at 6:28 am

    Baud,
    Just to share — blaring headline at TPM:

    DACA May Die In Three Weeks, And Democrats Have No Leverage Left

    I am bereft.

  26. 26.

    satby

    February 12, 2018 at 6:33 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: ?

  27. 27.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 12, 2018 at 6:35 am

    @Raoul: I always get up between 3 and 4 AM. Lifelong habit of 6 or 7 AM jobsite starts and hour long commutes.

  28. 28.

    Baud

    February 12, 2018 at 6:36 am

    @Immanentize:

    TPM is valuable, but the obsession with “leverage” is bullshit. I realize that TPM didn’t invent this bullshit but they are pandering to and propagating it.

  29. 29.

    Baud

    February 12, 2018 at 6:37 am

    @Raoul:

    and for whatever reason, surgeons seem to like to operate before dawn. 

    Tee time.

    Good luck with the surgery.

  30. 30.

    satby

    February 12, 2018 at 6:39 am

    @Immanentize: thanks!
    It was shocking, that level of dust pollution, must have been what the Dust Bowl days were like. I’m still debating with myself about going to get my car, we got two more inches of snow yesterday to add to the foot already on the ground. I can’t get into my driveway because the alley isn’t plowed, the street wasn’t really plowed either so not really anywhere to park unless I dig out a spot. I’m not feeling up to that yet.

  31. 31.

    TriassicSands

    February 12, 2018 at 6:39 am

    I’ve always supported the ERA. I was really disappointed when it failed to be ratified.
    I would love to see it resurrected and passed. The only reason why it wouldn’t pass now is because the American people are even dumber and more ignorant now than they were in the seventies.

    The original amendment:
    Section 1. Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

    Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

    Section 3. This amendment shall take effect two years after the date of ratification.

    I’d only make one change — Section 3. would read: This amendment shall take effect one day after the date of ratification.

    Even that seems like an unnecessarily long delay.

  32. 32.

    satby

    February 12, 2018 at 6:41 am

    @Raoul: I’m usually up this early, a habit developed when it was my only quiet time before the kids all woke up.

    Best of luck to your honey on the surgery.

  33. 33.

    TriassicSands

    February 12, 2018 at 6:43 am

    Trump has brought his own business practices to the White House and the GOP is glad to adopt them as their own.

  34. 34.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 12, 2018 at 6:44 am

    Welcome to the Goldman Sachs Space Station, where banking is out of this world.

    Really trying to figure out how this could happen seeing as it is a joint project among five participating space agencies: NASA, Roscosmos (Russia), JAXA (Japan), ESA (Europe), and CSA (Canada). Just don’t see it.

  35. 35.

    Raoul

    February 12, 2018 at 6:46 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: My uncle was a 5am riser for decades. He was a tire and auto reply who called on all the small town parts stores in Kansas. He said it took 15 years after retirement sleep in.

  36. 36.

    raven

    February 12, 2018 at 6:52 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Zevon’s take.

  37. 37.

    Immanentize

    February 12, 2018 at 6:52 am

    @satby: The only reason you should get your car today is if it hits 50, melts the road snow and you need to take a friend out to dinner this evening. Otherwise, enjoy the critters and they will enjoy you back.

    PS, when you were away, Adam led a discussion about the huge amounts of Kash the military will be trying to spend before July. I suggested SATBY SOAP! for every PX in the country….

  38. 38.

    Amir Khalid

    February 12, 2018 at 6:53 am

    I wonder if we will hear from commenter ARBG in this thread.

  39. 39.

    aimai

    February 12, 2018 at 6:53 am

    @Baud: Not satisfied until they are strangled, or rather, for some their thrugs are squucked.

  40. 40.

    raven

    February 12, 2018 at 6:55 am

    @satby: Here’s them roads.

  41. 41.

    satby

    February 12, 2018 at 6:56 am

    @Immanentize: LOL, thanks!
    I’m inclined to blow the car off again, long term parking is only $8/day. If my street gets plowed by this afternoon I may go for it though. Just going to wait and see what develops. Not having to go anywhere in particular is the best part of retirement, I’m thinking.

  42. 42.

    satby

    February 12, 2018 at 6:58 am

    @raven: yep, that’s them. But more rutted now.

  43. 43.

    satby

    February 12, 2018 at 6:59 am

    @Amir Khalid: like a cat drawn to catnip.

  44. 44.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 12, 2018 at 7:00 am

    @Raoul: I will probably always get up this early. I really enjoy the predawn quiet and the alone time.

    @raven: My insomnia agrees.

  45. 45.

    Kay

    February 12, 2018 at 7:01 am

    Mike Pence denied a report that Adam Rippon, a gay American figure skater, had refused to meet with him. But the Olympic athlete’s agent said it was true.

    The amount of lying in this administration is just incredible.

  46. 46.

    Baud

    February 12, 2018 at 7:04 am

    @Kay:

    After skating a flawless routine lauded as one of the best of his career by commentators Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir, judges ranked Rippon second behind Mikhail Kolyada for Olympic Athletes of Russia. After Patrick Chan of Canada performed and nabbed the top spot, Rippon was bumped down to third.

    While both Kolyada and Chan fell during their performances, their routines had higher degrees of difficulty than Rippon’s, which led to higher scores (even with the missteps).

    Pence got to the judges.

  47. 47.

    debbie

    February 12, 2018 at 7:06 am

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:

    Is there really such a thing as this “president’s confidence”?

  48. 48.

    Baud

    February 12, 2018 at 7:07 am

    @debbie:

    It’s shorthand for the president’s confidence men.

  49. 49.

    Raven

    February 12, 2018 at 7:09 am

    @satby: actually the roads in Vietnam are pretty good now. We had to take ferry boats across the Mekong at Can Tho and the bridge there now looks like the one at Savannah.

  50. 50.

    Kay

    February 12, 2018 at 7:18 am

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:

    Trump is making a lot of enemies with his cowardly leaks about his appointees. How long until one of them leaves the reservation and starts talking about all the things they’ve seen and heard? Not everyone is as much as a bootlicker as Sessions.

    Why can’t he just fire these people if he’s sorry he hired them? Instead he just spreads 7th grade gossip about them for a while and leaves them in place. Is he afraid they’ll talk if he fires them in a straightforward manner, like a grown up? Is he embarrassed that he hired them all in the first place?

    I loathe Kelly but if the 7th grade clique that constitutes the Trump Administration wants to get rid of someone the thing to do is to fire them, face to face. They need to grow up.

  51. 51.

    satby

    February 12, 2018 at 7:18 am

    @Raven: As we jolted along in the tuk-tuks I just kept thinking about the red states that are ripping up paved roads to return to gravel because they refuse to tax enough to maintain paved roads. Who would want dirt roads? It’s a mark of how privileged we’ve been as a society that most people can’t even imagine what the outcomes of these stupid decisions are going to be.
    Edited: my Kindle is at war with English today.

  52. 52.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 12, 2018 at 7:22 am

    @satby:

    Who would want dirt roads?

    Most of southern MO.

  53. 53.

    Kay

    February 12, 2018 at 7:22 am

    @Baud:

    Baud, I don’t understand the skating scores. Skating could learn from snowboarding. Snowboarding was exciting for idiots to watch because we understood the scores. The yellow lights! What does that even mean? Sometimes they turn green?

    Up er down vote. Best of 3. Something rational and easy.

  54. 54.

    debbie

    February 12, 2018 at 7:25 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Especially with the spring rains, ammirite?

  55. 55.

    Baud

    February 12, 2018 at 7:29 am

    @Kay: They seem to change the scoring system every time.

  56. 56.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 12, 2018 at 7:32 am

    @debbie: We like it when our roads are under water.

  57. 57.

    Kay

    February 12, 2018 at 7:35 am

    My daughter says the flu is a genuine public health emergency. She says if Obama were President there would be screeching that he hasn’t fixed it and no one even asks the Trump Administration, because there’s a lower standard being applied.

    I keep thinking of the camera crews following that nurse on her bike during the Ebola panic. Remember that? She was riding her bike and they were chasing her. I sort of loved her, because she was right, of course. Health care people had been treating ebola for months and coming into the country and then there was a 2 week freak out and all of a sudden they had to be quarantined because Republicans found it politically useful to scare people. Idiots.

  58. 58.

    Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)

    February 12, 2018 at 7:35 am

    Wasn’t it Michigan that was tearing out some paved roads and replacing them with gravel because they didn’t want to pay the taxes to maintain them?

  59. 59.

    satby

    February 12, 2018 at 7:36 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: @debbie: the people I knew in Michigan just felt like they were fine because they had trucks or SUVs, without considering that needing a heavy duty 4 wheel drive vehicle just for basic drives to work or a store is a pretty heavy self-imposed personal tax. More wear and tear, more repairs, more gas consumed, higher insurance rates: all so they could save maybe $100 per capita on road taxes. Just insane!
    Note, not referring to people who legitimately used a truck for work because they hauled heavy tools or stuff.

  60. 60.

    satby

    February 12, 2018 at 7:37 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Michigan, Texas, and I think a couple of other states. I had to change some regular routes I took because roads had been de-paved.

  61. 61.

    Baud

    February 12, 2018 at 7:38 am

    @Kay: Your daughter is absolutely correct.

  62. 62.

    Kay

    February 12, 2018 at 7:39 am

    @Baud:

    My son says we don’t understand the categories, and until those are explained we’ll just be trying to put together random pieces. First up- ice dancing v figure skating. Two different things or the same team?

  63. 63.

    Kay

    February 12, 2018 at 7:42 am

    @Baud:

    She doesn’t really know what the federal response should be but she says this is the real thing and there’s been no call for an enhanced response, which surprises her. They’re tired. They;ve been dealing with this for months. People in emergency rooms are upset and cranky- they want “something done” and there’s a lot of misinformation and fear.

  64. 64.

    Baud

    February 12, 2018 at 7:42 am

    @Kay: They are different. I know that much.

  65. 65.

    Quinerly

    February 12, 2018 at 7:44 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: And people who live in multi million dollar homes in Santa Fe, New Mexico. It’s a big thing in Santa Fe…status. Longtime residents lose it when Californians buy houses and then want to have the roads paved.

  66. 66.

    rikyrah

    February 12, 2018 at 7:45 am

    @Raoul:
    I am up because I am one of those people who like to get to work early.

  67. 67.

    rikyrah

    February 12, 2018 at 7:46 am

    @Quinerly:
    Good to see you!
    Morning to Poco and the tribe?

  68. 68.

    raven

    February 12, 2018 at 7:46 am

    @satby: When we paved the MSR from Seoul to Munsani the villagers chopped up the road and burned it in their stoves!

  69. 69.

    Baud

    February 12, 2018 at 7:47 am

    @Kay: Has she tried attacking Pelosi? That seems to be in vogue.

  70. 70.

    Kay

    February 12, 2018 at 7:48 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady):

    Michigan is infamous for unpaved roads. It’s some bizarre source of pride in (conservative) western Michigan. It’s wild in the snow because you feel like you just turned left into a field. “Is this a road? I don’t know”. I think I’ve driven thru orchards unknowingly. I realize the trees are in rows.

  71. 71.

    rikyrah

    February 12, 2018 at 7:49 am

    @Kay:
    I used to be devoted to figure skating. Now, I tune into the Olympics to see that they have created a TEAM competition?
    When did this happen?
    I feel old, not to have known this.

  72. 72.

    Baud

    February 12, 2018 at 7:50 am

    @rikyrah: Canada wanted more medals.

  73. 73.

    Kay

    February 12, 2018 at 7:52 am

    @Baud:

    She was in high school in ’06 when Democrats took Congress and that’s when she started paying attention. She was shocked when the GOP took back Congress and had the Abortion Trials with the panels of clerics. I told her “this is what it’s like”

    She thought the Pelosi house was the norm. Poor baby. So, no. Not a Pelosi hater.

  74. 74.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 12, 2018 at 7:52 am

    @satby: Most everyone out here has a p/u or 4wd something or other. Most also have a car for the long commutes to work. No matter which one drives, the gravel roads are hell on vehicles. (not long ago I cracked a rim after I hit a rut caused by minor flooding over a road I drive regularly. $60)

  75. 75.

    Kay

    February 12, 2018 at 7:54 am

    @rikyrah:

    That’s what threw my son too. He was like “team”? He’s giving up. He’s only watching events that make sense.

  76. 76.

    NotMax

    February 12, 2018 at 7:56 am

    @raven

    There are some paved roads here (more specifically, stretches of paved road) which the state insists are the county’s responsibility and the county insists are solely under state jurisdiction. Result is that nothing gets done insofar as upkeep and maintenance.

  77. 77.

    Cheryl Rofer

    February 12, 2018 at 7:57 am

    @satby: Unpaved roads are something of a status symbol in Santa Fe. The city has been conscientious about grading them to keep them reasonably smooth. A few years back they put a foot or so of a mixture of soil, rocks, and cement on my street; I don’t know how general this was. But the mixture hardens up more than the usual dirt and isn’t too dusty. Houses here are back far enough from the road that the dust isn’t a big issue, and at this altitude, the air doesn’t support a lot of dust. Big difference even from Albuquerque.

    I think that the status is that it’s implied that we don’t have to put up with a lot of traffic and thus our unpaved roads suffice.

    BTW, where are you with all the snow? Weren’t you supposed to be in Bernalillo?

  78. 78.

    Lapassionara

    February 12, 2018 at 7:58 am

    @satby: This! People do not realize how much they pay for bad roads in other ways. The 440 Parkway in Nashville was recently highlighted as one of the worst limited access roads in the nation. I have to drive on it around six or so times a year. Full of patched potholes, and way past its “time to replace this MF” date. I hold my breath and just hope I haven’t damaged a tire, if not worse. This is in the capital of Tennessee! Country music capital of the world, or some such.

  79. 79.

    NotMax

    February 12, 2018 at 8:06 am

    @Cheryl Rofer

    Other side of the status coin is wretched excess. McMansion built on the lot where the house Mom sold a few years ago stood has a long semi-circular heated driveway (with a spur, also heated, going to the huge garage).

  80. 80.

    Barbara

    February 12, 2018 at 8:09 am

    @rikyrah: It was started in 2014 and I am convinced that they did it to make sure Russia would win some kind of figure skating medal at the Sochi Olympics.

  81. 81.

    Matt McIrvin

    February 12, 2018 at 8:10 am

    @Kay: If Obama were president, Trump would be saying the flu was happening because of illegal immigrants. (He may get around to saying that anyway.)

  82. 82.

    NotMax

    February 12, 2018 at 8:11 am

    @rikyrah

    No ice line dancing event.

    Yet.

  83. 83.

    Quinerly

    February 12, 2018 at 8:16 am

    @rikyrah: And a good morning to you! Poco is giving this trip 4 paws up??. (Actually, he just tipped over?) Morning hike along the Rio Grande. Hope things are well with you, and your sister continues to feel better.

  84. 84.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 12, 2018 at 8:18 am

    Ahhhh yes, life in the Ozarks: From the Green Book to Facebook, how black people still need to outwit racists in rural America

    Over a barbecue grill last summer in a park in Springfield, Missouri, Jonathan Herbert and his friend Marlin Barber fell to ruminating about the challenges they faced as African Americans when driving across the country. Barber, who teaches history at Missouri State University, was planning a road trip to Arkansas with his white wife and two young children, and was apprehensive about what they might encounter in the rural backwaters. Herbert had an idea – why not float the dilemma to friends on Facebook and see what came back?

    “Sadly, it’s 2017,” Herbert went ahead and posted, “and we still have to consider the racial climate of some of the most beautiful places in this country before we decide to vacation there with our families.”

    The comment sparked intense Facebook reaction. A black friend divulged the fact that he had been called the N-word in Oklahoma and had run into the KKK in Texas. “I remember not taking our kids through parts of Missouri or Arkansas out of fear,” he said.

    I had friends who did not come to our backwoods underground Shannon Co wedding for this reason.

    “What struck me when I first opened the Green Book was that it is all about the practicality of racism,” says Michelle Johnson, who has written a play, The Green Book Wine Club Train Trip, that uses the travel guide as a device. Born in 1964, the year the Green Book went out of publication, Johnson is convinced that its premise – that same inquiry Herbert posed on Facebook, “Where is it safe to drive?” – has never ceased to be relevant. “Whenever I step out of the house I’m on alert. When I drive through small-town Missouri, I put my armour on and am super-vigilant.”

    With those words ringing in my ears, I set out on a 900-mile drive, making a giant loop through Missouri, tracking down premises listed in the Green Book that are still standing and talking to black Missourians about their experiences today. Could Michelle Johnson be right? More than half a century after Jim Crow segregation was abolished, a new, social media-fuelled Green Book is once again needed?
    ……
    Part of the chilling resonance of the guide, of course, is what it does not record – the hundreds of thousands of hotels, motels, restaurants and petrol stations across the States that were actively hostile towards black people. So for the first stop on our three-day trip we decided to take a peek at a town that makes no appearance in any edition of the book, to find out what those Green Book users were trying to avoid.

    And where do they head first? Sullivan, MO, the town just 11 miles west of me.

    Stefan Wehmeyer came to live in Sullivan eight years ago. As a mixed-race child of a white mother and estranged African American father, he had been warned before coming that the town had a “bad” reputation. Nothing prepared him for Sullivan. On the first day Wehmeyer and his mother spent in their new home, they had a visit from their next-door neighbour. He was a giant of a man, around 6ft 5ins and 170kg (27 stone). He stood before them both but only addressed Wehmeyer’s mother, as though Wehmeyer himself were invisible.

    “If your son ever goes on my property I’ll kill him,” the man warned her. “I don’t like niggers on my property.”

    Wehmeyer was 13 years old. He didn’t know it then, but Sullivan for decades had held an open secret: it was a “sundown town”. Well into the 1990s, black people unlucky enough to find themselves within its limits after dark could expect a rude awakening.

    According to James Loewen, an authority on sundown towns, Sullivan was one of more than 200 communities in Missouri fitting that description. It was a way of keeping the townsfolk exclusively white, and its influence endured long after the end of legal segregation. The 2010 census records that Sullivan still has only 16 black residents – 0.2% of its 7,000 population.

    Since Wehmeyer moved there, Sullivan has hit the national headlines. In 2014, a group of 15 white schoolgirls blacked up their faces for a game of football. A few months previously, as riots blazed in Ferguson after the police shooting of Michael Brown, a group of Sullivan residents, Wehmeyer’s neighbour among them, staged a KKK march through town.

    It makes me feel sooooooo proud, gives me chills it does. Also makes me wonder how it is I didn’t lose any glass in my truck when I had “Black Lives Matter” on the back for 2 years. I fully expected to, in these new days of trump I probably would.

    And After what Wehmeyer went thru…

    Back in the former sundown town of Sullivan, Stefan Wehmeyer is now 22 and in a happier place. A couple of years ago he found religion, and has become a pastor in a local non-denominational church.

    He says he is sticking with Sullivan, despite everything he was put through as a teenager. He sees it as his duty to remain in the town, “in the trenches” as he puts it, to combat local racial prejudice. Thirteen weeks ago his wife, a white woman from a small town in Arkansas whom he met on a church mission, had their first child. Before their daughter was born, Wehmeyer prayed long and hard and was overawed in the delivery room when his prayer came true.

    “I prayed that she’d look white, and she does,” he says. “She will be safe.”

    Much more at the link.

  85. 85.

    sherparick

    February 12, 2018 at 8:20 am

    @Baud: Republicans are terrible, evil people, but the real institution that has to be blown up is the Village Media. Since 1981, Republicans have blown up the deficit, first under Reagan with tax cuts and military spending increases; then again in 2001-03 under Dubya Bush with tax cuts and military spending increases; and now again under Trump with tax cuts and military spending increases. The Village Media is already publishing stories about “Republican Deficit” hawks and the need to cut “entitlement spending.” In part, that is because the media elite is really fine with the deficit spending and they enjoy the advertising revenue from the Defense Contractors for the Sunday morning Village Media shit shows.

    I slugged in this morning and the driver was a young man with an addiction to right wing radio. By the way, the really do live in an alternate universe. With the Nunes fiasco having flatlined, they will building up the IG report with all the leaks from the text messages between Page and Strozek.

  86. 86.

    satby

    February 12, 2018 at 8:28 am

    @Cheryl Rofer: no, I decided it was too close to when I came back from my trip to go west a couple of days later. Lucky decision, since I came back all wheezy from my trip. So I’m in South Bend, the snow belt stretches from west of Chicago to east of here with a foot or more on the ground.

  87. 87.

    NotMax

    February 12, 2018 at 8:35 am

    @satby

    Not to be Davey Downer, do you have jumper cables in the car? After all that time standing in those conditions, starting it could be troublesome.

  88. 88.

    satby

    February 12, 2018 at 8:42 am

    @NotMax: I do, thanks! And a jumper box I’ll make sure is powered up. Good idea, I wouldn’t have thought about that.

    Edited to add: how ironic is it that the guy from Hawaii would remember but the snow dweller wouldn’t?

  89. 89.

    Kay

    February 12, 2018 at 8:53 am

    @Matt McIrvin:

    The good faith explanation is the Obama Administration was so scandal-free that political media had time to “hold them accountable” for things they were responsible for and also things they weren’t responsible for.

    The bad faith explanation is Trump is held to a lower standard, and all the reporting follows from that.

    My personal favorite was the Gulf oil disaster. They were demanding Obama plug a hole IN THE WORLD. The ocean floor opened up and the best engineers in the country couldn’t close it, but Obama could if he wanted to, just by the force of his leadership.

  90. 90.

    danielx

    February 12, 2018 at 8:54 am

    @Baud:

    In yesterday’s WaPo, and written by Max Boot apparently without a shred of irony nor yet self awareness:

    Republicans are making a mockery of their reputation

    The jokes, they write themselves…..

  91. 91.

    Kay

    February 12, 2018 at 8:57 am

    @danielx:

    We’re going to need this, though, because the douchebag choir will be out screeching for cuts to low and middle income subsidies now that they’ve blown the budget.

    They’ll be sniffing around Social Security and Medicare, looking for money to steal. We need this narrative, that they’re full of shit on the budget. Scream it from the rooftops before they have a chance to haul out the phony deficit scolds.

  92. 92.

    danielx

    February 12, 2018 at 8:58 am

    @Kay:

    He wasn’t bipartisan enough! If he had just been more bipartisan, say by resigning and committing suicide in that order, there would have been no limits to the miracles he could perform!

  93. 93.

    Another Scott

    February 12, 2018 at 8:59 am

    ‘Morning all.

    Atrios is trolling our good friend oldgold today….

    Heh.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  94. 94.

    Kay

    February 12, 2018 at 9:03 am

    @danielx:

    I wish liberals would push back against Ivanka’s scheme to plunder Social Security.

    If the nepotism twins crack Social Security the creeps will drain it dry, “borrowing” from it. Off limits. Don’t open the door.

    Letting people borrow on future Social Security is a bad idea. It’s very Trump Family, loading something else up with debt. It grosses me out that Ivanka and Jared are looking for money to borrow. Jesus CHRIST. Is there no one who will stop this idiocy, where these unqualified coddled know-nothings are taken seriously?

  95. 95.

    Kay

    February 12, 2018 at 9:04 am

    @danielx:

    Campbell Brown once had an entire cable tv episode where she yelled at the CDC because her friend in NYC couldn’t find a flu shot. It was Obama’s fault.

  96. 96.

    tobie

    February 12, 2018 at 9:30 am

    @Kay: Your daughter is a smart cookie. So far this year 63 people have died of flu and yet there’s no public outcry or breathless reporting on this on CNN. By contrast 2 people died of Ebola during Obama’s term and the media went into overdrive ginning up panic in the public at large. The double standard is so transparent that it’s hard to believe the media are just blind to their own prejudices.

  97. 97.

    bemused

    February 12, 2018 at 9:31 am

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Driving on country gravel roads is a pain in the ass. There’s a shorter gravel road to nearest town but I rarely use it. When it’s dry for a few days, your vehicle gets coated with dust and who wants to wash their vehicle after every trip. Don’t follow car ahead too close if you want to avoid rocks kicked up at your vehicle. I have much skepticism that adding concrete is much of an improvement. In Minnesota during the spring thaw, gravel roads can turn into soupy peanut butter consistency particularly in low areas. I remember when a neighbor had to call for a tow after getting stuck in a mucky section. Even when the gravel roads are neither too dry/dusty or too muddy too drive, one would be wise to slow down and slow down even more before curves. Many people don’t realize that gravel road surfaces are not like paved/tarred roads in that hitting a soft area is similar to hitting an icy spot on paved road. The road may look fine but suddenly you hit a softer, more sandy area and you’re in the ditch.

  98. 98.

    MomSense

    February 12, 2018 at 9:34 am

    @satby:

    I hope you are not still wheezy. Please take care of yourself.

  99. 99.

    Frankensteinbeck

    February 12, 2018 at 9:37 am

    @sherparick:
    Having heard Tom Brokaw opine on the subject, and observed the reactions he got, I assure you the media specifically loves the idea of gutting ‘entitlements’, which they feel lazy people are far too dependent on. Lazy people being literally the entire middle class. They’re barely aware poor people exist. They suck up Republican myths because they’re Republicans.

    @Kay:

    I wish liberals would push back against Ivanka’s scheme to plunder Social Security.

    Push back how? Do you think they AREN’T calling it a stupid and godawful idea? It’s not like the media wants to report that. Do you think they should be monomaniacal about it? There’s one Hell of a lot of things they’re being called on to be monomaniacal about, right now.

  100. 100.

    Aardvark Cheeselog

    February 12, 2018 at 9:40 am

    This seems possibly of interest to jackals: A government worker says he didn’t want to help ICE deport immigrants. So he quit.

    Somebody sent me a link to a GoFundMe..

  101. 101.

    TerryC

    February 12, 2018 at 9:43 am

    @Kay:

    Michigan is infamous for unpaved roads. It’s some bizarre source of pride in (conservative) western Michigan. It’s wild in the snow because you feel like you just turned left into a field. “Is this a road? I don’t know”

    I live on 18 acres of land on a never-paved dirt road four miles as the crows fly, and they do every day, from the center of the U Michigan campus in Ann Arbor. Woods and fields to the north and south, couple of nice neighbors to the east, and an equestrian center to the west.

    Please do NOT pave my road ????

  102. 102.

    indycat32

    February 12, 2018 at 9:56 am

    @tobie: More than 63. They’re reporting 167 flu-related deaths here in Indiana.

  103. 103.

    satby

    February 12, 2018 at 9:58 am

    @TerryC: way to miss the point that we’re talking about more heavily travelled roads used by hundreds of people, not a back road used by 4 neighbors.

  104. 104.

    oldgold

    February 12, 2018 at 10:09 am

    The only way to get Trump’s attention concerning the current flu epidemic would be to name it the African Flu.

  105. 105.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 12, 2018 at 10:14 am

    @oldgold: I was thinking the only way to get trump’s attention concerning the current flu epidemic would be to name it the Ivanka Flu.

  106. 106.

    No Drought No More

    February 12, 2018 at 10:48 am

    “The genius of our Constitution is that this concept of ‘We the people’ has become ever more embracive”.

    Although its wording reads “all men”, it can be argued that genius was enunciated even earlier in our history.

    “The history of American democracy is a gradual realization, too slow for some and too rapid for others, of the implications of the Declaration of Independence”.

  107. 107.

    a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)

    February 12, 2018 at 11:32 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Low water bridges.

  108. 108.

    a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)

    February 12, 2018 at 11:36 am

    @Lapassionara: WTF is it with the grooves in that thing, anyway, between Hillsboro and I-40? I am so glad I don’t have to drive on that very often.

  109. 109.

    Lapassionara

    February 12, 2018 at 11:48 am

    @a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio): IDK. Just a horror to drive.

  110. 110.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    February 12, 2018 at 12:01 pm

    @a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio): I suspect trucks. Very heavy trucks.

    (It’s been years since I’ve driven in TN; I’m guessing from general principles of pavement failure.)

  111. 111.

    Miss Bianca

    February 12, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    @satby: I live on, and therefore drive on dirt roads all the time and buh-lieve me (no, really!) when I say I know from personal experience that they need just as much, if not more, maintenance than paved ones. Unless you’re grading pretty much constantly, the washboard ruts in the road get to an insane level of intensity really quickly.

    False economy, in other words. Penny-wise and pound-foolish. Just like so much of our national dialogue around infrastructure spending.

  112. 112.

    Miss Bianca

    February 12, 2018 at 12:26 pm

    @No Drought No More: Yup. Love it.

  113. 113.

    Duane

    February 12, 2018 at 3:27 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: Thanks for the link. I live in Springfield. Shameful history.
    There was a successful black community before the 1906 public lynchings. The understandable exodus has hurt Springfield ever since.
    Only a small plaque on the square marks the heinous event.

  114. 114.

    lowtechcyclist

    February 12, 2018 at 4:51 pm

    For years, I’ve wanted the Dems to take another swing at the ERA.

    But this isn’t 1971, this is 2018. Equal rights not just for women, but for gays, lesbians, and transgender persons as well.

  115. 115.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    February 12, 2018 at 5:50 pm

    @danielx: Max Boot is woke. He changed parties last year and now openly supports Dems.

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