Had forgotten that Trump last year proposed teaming up with Russia to prevent cyberhacking. Good thing we didn't do that! https://t.co/s25tcKIiSF pic.twitter.com/N2hJow25MA
— Allegra Kirkland (@allegrakirkland) February 16, 2018
Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded..
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 9, 2017
The burglars who broke into our house and I discussed forming an impenetrable Home Security unit so that window breaking, & many other negative things, will be guarded..https://t.co/O6Pb8OgLve
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) February 17, 2018
Refinement: The burglars who broke into our house and connived with me so I could commit insurance fraud discussed with me forming an impenetrable home security unit https://t.co/hdzgbpuqqc
— Norman Ornstein (@NormOrnstein) February 17, 2018
"[Putin] said he didn't meddle. He said he didn't meddle. I asked him again. You can only ask so many times… And I believe, I really believe, that when he tells me that, he means it." — Donald Trump, 11/14/17 https://t.co/3MSxRzwvWJ
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) February 16, 2018
I did this only because the burglars looked me in the eye and swore that they did not break into my house, and I believe them. https://t.co/hpb8Ft2EEe
— Jesse Wegman (@jessewegman) February 17, 2018
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1968 — LBJ sits on Nixon treason so as not to affect election.
2016: Obama sits on proof of Russian ratfcking so as not to appear partisan.
Democrats. Boy, I dunno.— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) February 16, 2018
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Yeah, but at least the Democrats aren’t actively abetting our foreign enemies…
We need to revisit why @SenateMajLdr refused to join @BarackObama in warning America the Russians had attacked us.
— John Weaver (@JWGOP) February 17, 2018
Corner Stone
All of the ways Trump has signaled his complete willingness to be Putin’s plaything, I thought that tweet about cooperating on the Cyber with Russia was damn near at the top of the list.
Corner Stone
Vyessel NYEETS skaya!
Also, too.
germy
Can you imagine their laughter?
No Drought No More
John Garamendi (D-Ca.) just laid it all out on MSNBC. He knows Trump is a traitor, typo.
Congressional republicans are lucky I’m not in Garamendi’s shoes, because I definitely would have accused them in having actively aide-and-abbetted Trump’s treason, and having betrayed their oaths of office in the process.
pat
When will it become obvious to everyone that Russia did not spend millions of dollars on this if it didn’t work?
Daoud bin Daoud
Putin’s Puppet suggesting that we let Russia look inside our security system, and JarJar trying to establish a back channel through the Russian embassy – move along, folks, nothing to see here!
Corner Stone
Gin & Tonic
Il Donaldo is busy saying, hey, they supposedly started this in 2014, well before I declared my candidacy. Yet today I saw on the Twitter (so it has to be true, yo) that he sought to register “Make America Great Again” as a trademark in November, 2012.
Roger Moore
@Corner Stone:
Almost as high as begging him on live TV to hack Hillary’s emails.
Corner Stone
What I like about the Trump tweet is that he doesn’t say “guarded against” or “defended”. He just says guarded which to me sounds like “better hidden from prying eyes”.
Amir Khalid
@pat:
Trump is now your President. How are you so sure it didn’t work?
Corner Stone
@Gin & Tonic: Yeah, Romney losing to the black man, after all the Birther racist shit Trump had pulled to try and drag Obama down, really frosted his ass. Trump was talking about riots and rigged systems way back then so pretty sure he already knew some collusion was in his near future.
SiubhanDuinne
@AnneLaurie: You’re up early!
sdhays
@Amir Khalid: I think you should reread the post – pat’s saying that Russia spent millions on this BECAUSE it works.
pat
@Amir Khalid:
guess I wasn’t clear. OF COURSE it worked, why would they spend so much money on a failing attempt? The very fact that they were spending a million dollars a month indicated that they KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
Feebog
I dreamed Trump won the election and sold our country to Putin. Can I wake up from this nightmare now?
piratedan
kind of hard to NOT think that the entire leadership of the GOP isn’t treasonous…
McConnell knew
Ryan knew
Preibus knew
money was likely funneled to their collective campaign coffers
social media attacks were coordinated with outside resources
what we don’t know is if actual votes were “hacked”
we’re pretty sure that they were suppressed and that a LOT of this has been prepped at the state and local level
maybe we can seize and convert all of these Kushner and Trump properties into prisons and once convicted they can be guarded by recently deported Dreamers
James E. Powell
Re: the Pierce tweet. I thought LBJ sat on the Nixon treason information because he didn’t want to admit/reveal the surveillance.
Am I wrong?
GregB
I think an investigation into the voter information gathered by Chris Kobach needs to begin poste-haste.
trollhattan
@No Drought No More:
Care to try that in English?
Achrachno
@Feebog: Please quit eating pepperoni pizza before bed. Your dreams are having a bad effect on my reality.
GregB
Who in the media will ask Trump to publicly state Vlad lied to him?
Amir Khalid
@pat:
Okay, I got that now. My bad, Sorry..
lollipopguild
@James E. Powell: The main reason LBJ sat on the intelligence was that he did not want to let everybody know what the CIA/NSA was capable of doing. Reagan worked with our enemies in IRAN to make sure that the hostages were not released until he became President so he could take credit for their release instead of Carter getting the credit.
Baud
In related news, the USOC has hired Harvey Weinstein to reform the U.S. gymnastics program.
Aleta
Help! Not just anybody.
(The more I look at the faces of the sample couple the higher they register on my horror scale.)
Photos and jokes on a twit link here:
trollhattan
@lollipopguild:
The Reagan whitewashing is galling, and effective. I know 40-somethings who have completely bought into the Noonan version and are nostalgic for somebody who never existed. He also personally punched the Soviet Union to death.
efgoldman
@SiubhanDuinne:
She only sleeps every other day in February. Still looking for her shadow.
mai naem mobile
There’s a WaPo story from yesterday that says Kushner has had the most requests from the IC than anybody from the WH outside the NSC. This beady eyed scumball who is up to his eyeballs in debt who can’t get tip secret clearance whp has edited his FD forms 40+ times. And John Fucking Kelly was a general and this is okay by him.
Jeffro
This is the kind of thing that makes me start looking around for a baseball bat: Nunes: Obama Failed To Act Despite My Many Warnings About Russia.
(warning: link is to Faux Snooze)
AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You. Have Got To. Be. FUCKINGKIDDINGME!!!
Captain C
@Corner Stone: Arguably, that already happened with Yeltsin, though perhaps “drunkest” should replace “fattest.”
pamelabrown53
@Corner Stone: #1.
I know. It’s like the chicken making a deal with the fox to guard the hen house.It’s beyond inane..
IMHO, Trump’s sole goal was to expand his business empire. As the poster person for Narcissistic Personality Disorder, he hasn’t a frigging clue about “National Interests” only personal $ interests. He hasn’t a scrap of decency or understanding. One of the many things of which he’s made a mockery: Public Service”.
Corner Stone
@trollhattan: Are you seriously trying to tell me that Reagan did not levitate on top of the Berlin Wall and personally curb stomped it to death?
Redshift
@lollipopguild: And W’s team told Netanyahu not to allow peace negotiations under Clinton to succeed because they’d give him a much better deal.
Treason: it’s what they do.
Immanentize
@lollipopguild: And we should add for the younguns — what LBJ failed to release was the information/facts that Nixon and his team secretly negotiated with the North Vietnamese to sink the almost-finished Paris peace talks, leading to five more years of war, death and real American carnage.
Baud
@trollhattan:
@Redshift:
In my experience, our side would prefer to talk about Clinton’s or Obama’s imperfections than keep those stories alive. They were easy to whitewash.
Baud
@Jeffro:
“So you admit that Russia interfered in the election?”
“No.”
Mike in NC
@Aleta: Trump Dating makes sense. At least as much sense as as Trump Steaks and Trump University. In fact most dating services are a scam.
GregB
So Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan were told by Obama about this pending Russian 9/11 and then threatened hom if he didn’t keep quiet about it?
I think Mueller’s round if indictments are the end of the beginning of the end.
Mike in NC
@Aleta: Trump Dating makes sense. At least as much sense as Trump Steaks and Trump University. In fact most dating services are a scam.
FlipYrWhig
Um, re: Pierce, didn’t Obama and Jeh Johnson present what they knew of the effort well before the election… to the point where it was talked about in multiple presidential debates?
patrick II
@Roger Moore:
My own personal come to Jesus moment was when Donald said that he would not trust the election results if he did not win. Mistrust in democracy and the electoral system is exactly the seed Putin is sowing. Putin could have written those words himself. And the thing is, even if he lost, Donald was still willing to damage the country and democracy at its core for whatever hidden motives he has when dealing with Putin.
Mnemosyne
I was wondering how much longer it would take Pierce to blame Obama for this fiasco. It must have been killing him to have to hold back this long.
Tenar Arha
@Jeffro: Mother fudging H E double-toothpicks!!! (Seriously, we’re living on Earth 3 where parody is reality).
trollhattan
@patrick II:
Yup. I also think Trump lifted the “rigged election” line directly from Wilmer, noting its effectiveness with the rabble.
Mnemosyne
@FlipYrWhig:
That’s the ever-fascinating feature of the Blame Obama crowd — even when you can point to Obama saying exactly what they claim they wanted to hear in the exact timeframe they’re demanding, it’s still Obama’s fault that what they demanded he say or do didn’t actually work.
Immanentize
@Mike in NC: I hear Rob Porter’s profile on Trump Dating is getting a lot of likes!
Corner Stone
@trollhattan: Trump was loudly babbling about rigged elections at least as far back as 2012 when Romney lost. he tweeted that Romney should not take the results and there should be riots in the streets.
B.B.A.
@Redshift: I think you mean Sharon. Netanyahu was not PM at any time during Bush’s term (weird since it feels like he’s been in charge there for-fucking-ever).
Corner Stone
@FlipYrWhig: DHS/DNI released a letter on Oct 7 2016 stating it believed Russia/Russia related actors had hacked emails and been scanning states voting systems.
“However, we are not now in a position to attribute this activity to the Russian Government. The USIC and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) assess that it would be extremely difficult for someone, including a nation-state actor, to alter actual ballot counts or election results by cyber attack or intrusion. This assessment is based on the decentralized nature of our election system in this country and the number of protections state and local election officials have in place. States ensure that voting machines are not connected to the Internet, and there are numerous checks and balances as well as extensive oversight at multiple levels built into our election process.”
ETA, this is not the same as divulging the influence operations or the breadth of what Russia was doing. Which was known much earlier than 10/2016
schrodingers_cat
@Mnemosyne: Does he have anything say about he fell for anti-HRC Russian propaganda too? Or is he mum about that.
James E. Powell
@Corner Stone:
Big factor in how this all went down was that when the press/media heard that Russians were hacking emails, they didn’t run a story saying “Holy Shit! Russians attacking our democracy!” but instead went with “Holy Shit! Have you read these emails! Hillary is evil! The primary was rigged!”
I remember one night, just before I stopped watching news altogether, Andrea Mitchell and the gang agreeing that as long as the word “emails” was in the story, it was bad for Clinton. Why? Who knows? Who cares? It’s bad for Hillary! Let’s do it!
germy
Gravenstone
@Jeffro: Might I suggest a titanium softball bat? Those won’t break under extreme use. Unless of ciyrse, you intended to use the broken bat to stake the vampire’s corpse
J R in WV
@Immanentize:
On behalf of honored commenter Raven, Fuck LBJ!!
However, it is true that Johnson, although aware of Nixon’s treason regarding the Paris Peach accord discussions, also knew that revealing that information would have also revealed secret methods (and perhaps personnel) that were more important secrets than Nixon’s treason, at least to the security agencies who uncovered NIxon’s treason.
Glad I have never had to balance honor against secrecy in an existential quandary like that.
gene108
From a May 2013 article.
https://pagesix.com/2013/05/27/trump-researching-2016-run/
Mnemosyne
@schrodingers_cat:
Honestly, I rarely read Pierce, because his incessant Obama-bashing and Hillary-bashing gets on my nerves.
J R in WV
@J R in WV:
Arrgh, couldn’t edit, “Paris Peach accord discussions” should obviously be Paris Peace – they weren’t talking about peaches!!! But edit only works once in a while now. GRRR.
Aleta
@Mike in NC: Sociopaths who hook up and bankrupt each other?
(Could be a reality show. End up in court owning nothing but their unraveling hats, pursued by crooked Kushner lawyers.)
Kathleen
@schrodingers_cat: Of course not.
MomSense
@Mnemosyne:
Oh he blamed him a long time ago on twitter and even called him “naive” when he should know better. That is a racist fucking thing to say.
Kathleen
@Mnemosyne: I quit reading him years ago for that reason. BJ front pagers and commenters are more thoughtful, analytical, creative and funny than he is anyway.
Magda in Black
Sorry if some one has mentioned this, but HIS tweets today : he did not compose those.
trollhattan
@J R in WV:
Headline of the time: “Paris Peach Talks Pitted by Nixon.”
Aleta
Our fake prez himself is a disinformation campaign, expertly installed to generate maximum attention.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Magda in Black: He’s made a picture of him posing with Broward (sp?) County LE his twitter banner. He’s got his big smile on and is giving a thumb’s up. That falls under the heading of “Shocking but not surprising” (and it’s getting crowded under there), but who the fuck are the people smiling along with him as they pose for pictures when he’s there because schoolchildren were slaughtered? At least in the hospital picture (same trump pose, same big smile) a few of the medical personnel look a bit awkward
Ladyraxterinok
@lollipopguild: Reagan and GOP never suffered for doing this. In fact, IIRC it was little known at time and only became publicized yrs later when everyone could say ‘Oh, that’s just ancient history. Let’s move on.’ *
Reagan as GOP icon means GOPers are also traitors.
* similar to George Will not paying any price for praising Reagan punditly for his debate performance after having coached R to prepare. This malfeasance too only came to light yrs later.
Magda in Black
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Sycophants. (Did I spell that right ?)
Corner Stone
@Magda in Black: I don’t think I have ever heard a louder squealing stuck pig than the stuckiest stuck pig that is Trump.
Just me, me, me. He could not sound more guilty if you put up a blaring GUILTY klaxon over his head.
Corner Stone
Dolcemolokoplus
@mai naem mobile: Michael Flynn was a general, too. Hell, for that matter, so was Benedict Arnold.
Magda in Black
@Corner Stone:
I have trouble accepting that any human is so deeply needy and so unself-aware. And yet, there it is, on a daily (hourly?) basis.
Naive of me, I know.
The Simp in the Suit
@Ladyraxterinok: Was there every a real report on this? I don’t doubt that Reagan, with plenty of help from the US IC, undermined Carter illegally. But has there ever been real investigative reporting done on it?
Vhh
@The Simp in the Suit: yup, I saw it on French TV back when I lived there in the 1990s. Never in the US.
Fred
What do you wanna bet, when Mitch Mc made his threat to call political mischief on telling the public about the Russian attack, he had that creepy smirky smile pasted on his ugly mug?