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You are here: Home / Elections / Election 2016 / Hicks Ticks (Open Thread)

Hicks Ticks (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  February 27, 201810:33 am| 207 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Goddamned Traitors, Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity, Trump-Russia, General Stupidity

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Someone seemed a tad nervous during this morning’s executive time:

Why so worked up?

Could it be because Trump’s human email interface, Hope Hicks, is supposed to testify in a closed-door session of the House Intelligence Committee today? She’ll stonewall like other members of der Scheißegibbon’s inner circle, and she’ll get away with it until Democrats have some power on the committees again. The GOP-led House committees are comically open about functioning as Trump’s personal obstruction of justice facilitators. Maybe Trump just doesn’t trust women for some reason…

If Mueller recalls Hicks (or got the goods during the first meeting?), then Trump should worry. At the very least, she had a ringside seat at the Trump-led obstruction meeting around Dim Son’s idiotically enthusiastic email effluvium on the Trump Tower meeting with Russians bearing “dirt” on Clinton.

Tick tock, mofos!

Open thread!

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  1. 1.

    Mike in DC

    February 27, 2018 at 10:36 am

    Drudge is saying Trump will formally announce for 2020, and that Brad Parscale will be his campaign manager. Uh, if there was collusion, good job picking a guy most likely to face indictment as your campaign manager.

  2. 2.

    germy

    February 27, 2018 at 10:37 am

    She’ll stonewall like other members of der Scheißegibbon’s inner circle

    Will he be texting her as she testifies, telling her which questions to ignore?

  3. 3.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    February 27, 2018 at 10:37 am

    He does seem a little nervous.

  4. 4.

    germy

    February 27, 2018 at 10:38 am

    Janus.

    He’s 65 years old?

    All of a sudden he decided he hates paying his union dues?

    Who is this asshole?

  5. 5.

    LAO

    February 27, 2018 at 10:38 am

    Open thread? Before I bitch about Trump I have to bitch about NYC cyclists. Some fucking guy ran me over this am, thank the FSM he didn’t hit my dog but still. My goddamn right foot is black and blue and you should see the shoes I had to wear today. I’m pissed! (My foots not broken, but damn, it still hurts)! OK, I feel better now.

  6. 6.

    FlipYrWhig

    February 27, 2018 at 10:38 am

    Jonathan Turley is such a fuckface.

  7. 7.

    d58826

    February 27, 2018 at 10:38 am

    Somewhat OT but the current right wing talking point is the FBI dropped the ball on the Parkland shooter and they had him on a silver platter. Now the FBI should figure out why the information it had did not get from DC to Fla, but if it had what could the FBI do? We don’t have preventative detention. The locals had long experience with the guy so what magic could the FBI have added. Other than it is part of the RW effort to discredit the FBI to protect Der Fuhrer.

  8. 8.

    rikyrah

    February 27, 2018 at 10:39 am

    This is potentially a very significant story.

    The NRA is refusing to answer senator’s questions about funding from Russia https://t.co/rMLLCFzaJC

    — Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) February 27, 2018

  9. 9.

    LAO

    February 27, 2018 at 10:39 am

    So Hicks is supposed to testify today, I was wondering what made Trump go off his meds this morning.

  10. 10.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 27, 2018 at 10:39 am

    Does Hicks wears such heavy makeup to hide the bruises her bf and documented wife beater Porter gives her? It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

  11. 11.

    rikyrah

    February 27, 2018 at 10:40 am

    Where’s the money, Boo?
    Where’s the money?

    Melania Trump cuts ties with friend’s company amid questions: NYT

    Ken Vogel, political reporter for The New York Times, talks with Rachel Maddow about breaking news that the first lady’s office has cut tie’s with Melania Trump’s friend’s newly created company after it was revealed that she was paid $26 million for unspecified inauguration planning services.

  12. 12.

    Frankensteinbeck

    February 27, 2018 at 10:40 am

    I think he’s irritated that all these people he finds completely credible are saying Hillary is the criminal, not Trump, and yet he still hasn’t been completely exonerated. It doesn’t matter what Trump did. The narcissist is always innocent because only his interpretation of events is the correct one, and it pisses him off when others disagree. For that same reason, the people saying he’s innocent and Hillary is a criminal are the obviously credible sources that it’s offensive not everyone listens to.

    He’s such a coward, he might be scared, but I actually think he’s pretty insulated from information about any legal peril he might be in.

  13. 13.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    February 27, 2018 at 10:40 am

    @Mike in DC: Has there been another Presidential campaign that started having events right after the inauguration? Did I miss it somehow? Another norm shattered, I suspect. Though I could have forgotten that it happened before.

  14. 14.

    cope

    February 27, 2018 at 10:41 am

    I actually made a chuckling sound when I read “Dim Son”. Thank you for my first smile of the day.

  15. 15.

    SFAW

    February 27, 2018 at 10:41 am

    Tick tock, mofos!

    Hey! No fair doing that in the OP!

    Or at least make it a tag.

  16. 16.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 27, 2018 at 10:41 am

    Alternative title: Hope floats.

  17. 17.

    LAO

    February 27, 2018 at 10:41 am

    @d58826: My favorite fucking thing about all the talking heads and the FBI’s “dropping of the ball” is exactly that. There are no laws in place to take away a person’s legally possessed guns based some complaint about what he might do in the future. This is ridiculous.

    ETA:

    Scalise is being awful, blaming FBI. there's not ONE LAW in Florida that would've allowed FBI to take Cruz's guns.— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) February 27, 2018

  18. 18.

    Jeffro

    February 27, 2018 at 10:42 am

    He gets worked up because Faux Snooze cheers him on and tells him he’s awesome, super-manly, and yet somehow still a poor lil’ ol victim of the Dems’ “WITCH HUNT!” Truly, the wingnut mind is a wonder.

    Btw this is a fairly awesome point-after-point, example-after-example takedown of preznit kung fu commando: Trumpov Overcompensates for His Cowardice

    You don’t have to have a medical degree to notice his ocean of insecurity and his need to overcompensate.

    President Trump is not known for personal courage. He used “bone spurs” to get out of military service in Vietnam. (He apparently is not scared of stairs, but is petrified of sharks and, by his own account, is revolted by the sight of blood. He’s also a germaphobe.) He’ll fire people, but not if he has to confront the person directly. (He sent an aide to fire FBI director James B. Comey; gave up trying to fire special counsel Robert S. Mueller III — when White House counsel Don McGahn wouldn’t do it; and backed off trying to remove deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe when FBI director Christopher A. Wray threatened to quit.) When caught saying or doing something he shouldn’t (e.g., mocking a reporter with a disability, calling African countries “shitholes,” calling Democrats “un-American” and “treasonous,” etc.), he figuratively flees the scene by either denying what he said, or pretending it was a joke. And, for whatever reason, he will bend over backwards to avoid offending Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    So when he declared on Monday that, had he been at the site of the Parkland, Fla., school shooting, “I really believe I’d run in there even if I didn’t have a weapon,” he was widely derided on social media. Obviously, few human beings, even brave ones, would race into a building to confront an active shooter with no weapon. In fact, it would be idiotic to do so. The fact that Trump felt compelled to brag about superhuman physical bravery (and further demean the school resource officer who failed to) is telling.

    Lacking a service record of his own, he repeatedly feels compelled to equate military service with other conduct (e.g. sexual promiscuity, military school). He longs to be in the company of military men, but fails to understand the ethos of the American military. (Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis had to talk him out of adopting torture as a policy. He thinks the military wants a parade to show off.) He tries to ingratiate himself with the police by telling them that it is fine to rough up suspects. During the campaign, he said about a protester: “I’d like to punch him in the face.”

    Go for it, you flabby bowl of orange Jell-O!

    Meanwhile, Trumpmaggedon Day creeps closer, and He-Man can’t seem to muster the guts to stop it:

    In the case of Trump, his empty bravado has another ramification, a legal one. Trump faces a real confrontation that could end his presidency and land him in a heap of legal trouble, namely an interview with the special counsel about Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and Trump’s actions after the investigation began. The president has bragged he’d love to talk to Mueller, but for now is hiding behind his lawyers’ skirts. His lawyers think he is so dishonest that he will lie under oath or is so foolishly loquacious that he’ll implicate himself in wrongdoing. They have resorted to silly excuses. (Too busy!) But, of course, Trump could override his lawyers; he is the client.

    Moreover, he is the president, who is sworn to protect and defend the Constitution, which entails getting to the bottom of a plot to interfere with our election. A refusal to testify would be tantamount to admitting that his personal interests conflict with his obligations as chief executive.

    Sure doesn’t seem like the actions of an innocent man, now does it?

    Meanwhile, to wrap up, Rubin points out the obvious: we could have had a president who not only made us proud, but actually has faced down psychopaths bare-handed…

    It’s ironic, isn’t it, that Hillary Clinton sat stoically before the GOP-controlled committee charged with investigation the Benghazi tragedy for eleven hours, but Trump cannot muster up the nerve to talk face-to-face with Mueller? Some people, I suppose, are just naturally more stouthearted than others.

    Le sigh…

  19. 19.

    Tokyokie

    February 27, 2018 at 10:42 am

    You know, Ken Starr’s always been my go-to guy to opine on the appropriateness of a special-counsel investigation.

  20. 20.

    rikyrah

    February 27, 2018 at 10:42 am

    @LAO:
    Get better. I am not a fan of cyclists.

  21. 21.

    Frankensteinbeck

    February 27, 2018 at 10:43 am

    @d58826:

    We don’t have preventative detention.

    Conservatives being mean-spirited assholes, this is specifically something they want changed, if they are even aware of it. Preventative detention is not merely in line with their world view, it is self-evidently necessary. They have strong opinions about who is obviously guilty and needs to be locked up, too.

  22. 22.

    LAO

    February 27, 2018 at 10:43 am

    @rikyrah: Thanks, other than a bruised foot, I’m just steaming mad.

  23. 23.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    February 27, 2018 at 10:44 am

    @LAO: it’s awful that I felt better as soon as I read he didn’t hit Maggie. I’m sorry he ran offer your for. Arnica gel is your friend.

  24. 24.

    germy

    February 27, 2018 at 10:45 am

    @Tokyokie: He’s been featured on the PBS News Hour, where he’s treated like an expert. And he says he sees no obstruction, while the hosts nod thoughtfully and then thank him for appearing.

  25. 25.

    LAO

    February 27, 2018 at 10:46 am

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: No it’s not. I actually continued on to the dog park after he hit me, so yeah, I get it.

  26. 26.

    Mnemosyne

    February 27, 2018 at 10:46 am

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    The narcissist is always innocent because only his interpretation of events is the correct one, and it pisses him off when others disagree.

    This right here. The narcissist only pays attention to his internal feelings and perceptions, and anyone or anything that disagrees with those is not only wrong, but an enemy. Any contrary evidence is a conspiracy against the narcissist, because there is no such thing as objective truth.

  27. 27.

    FlipYrWhig

    February 27, 2018 at 10:47 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: I’m sure they’re fully in favor of the preventive arrest and disarmament of nutballs with grudges, free-floating anger, and personal arsenals. I know they aren’t exactly poster children for thinking things through but for Christ’s sake.

  28. 28.

    Ryan

    February 27, 2018 at 10:47 am

    @rikyrah: I’m sure some are good people.

  29. 29.

    Frankensteinbeck

    February 27, 2018 at 10:47 am

    @Jeffro:

    He tries to ingratiate himself with the police by telling them that it is fine to rough up suspects.

    No. He’s a stone racist who thinks brown people commit most crimes and that brutalizing them if they are even suspected is virtuous and necessary. Thus the pardon of Arpaio. And he thinks that’s the job of the police, so he usually approves strongly of them.

    @Jeffro:

    Trump faces a real confrontation that could end his presidency and land him in a heap of legal trouble

    Alas, even if he’s convicted and serves his term in jail, I doubt his presidency will be ended. You never know, though. The GOP will stick with him like fanatics until suddenly they never liked him and he has to go.

  30. 30.

    Spanky

    February 27, 2018 at 10:49 am

    Those tweets were not by Donald Trump. Waaaay too coherent. And I ain’t snarkin’ this time.

  31. 31.

    Tony Jay

    February 27, 2018 at 10:49 am

    @Jeffro:

    Such unPresidented bravery.

    Did I spell that right?

  32. 32.

    d58826

    February 27, 2018 at 10:50 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: @Frankensteinbeck: Don’t the local/state authorities have the ability to force an involuntary commitment if some one is deemed a hazard to themselves or others? Probably would have only been for a short time and would have done nothing to prevent the shooting but the state/locals probably have more tools in a case like this than the feds.

  33. 33.

    NotMax

    February 27, 2018 at 10:50 am

    “I must decline to answer that as it falls under demigod-sycophant privilege.”

  34. 34.

    Tokyokie

    February 27, 2018 at 10:50 am

    @germy: Well Ken has plenty of time on his hands these days, given that he doesn’t have to cover up for rapists on the Baylor Bears football roster any longer.

  35. 35.

    Frankensteinbeck

    February 27, 2018 at 10:51 am

    @FlipYrWhig:
    That’s a bit complicated, since they operate more on truthiness than consistency. Since they want someone to blame, it’s easy to use their already well developed love of preventative detention to claim that it’s the FBI’s fault because they should have stopped this person conservatives have been publicly shamed into disapproving of.

  36. 36.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 27, 2018 at 10:52 am

    Someone weighs pretty much the same as a 300 pound duck.

  37. 37.

    Frankensteinbeck

    February 27, 2018 at 10:53 am

    @d58826:
    No. I live with a psychiatrist. There is not a damn thing that the psychiatric profession could have done to stop him. It’s seriously hard to involuntarily commit someone, and being an asshole is not on the list. It shouldn’t be on the list, because it’s so easily abused. Only gun control would have stopped this.

  38. 38.

    oatler.

    February 27, 2018 at 10:56 am

    It’s like he’s already experiencing his own damnation pre-death.

  39. 39.

    Gin & Tonic

    February 27, 2018 at 10:56 am

    @schrodingers_cat: Hey, if you’re still here, since you commented on his sartorial choices, I thought you’d appreciate this commentary.

  40. 40.

    Gin & Tonic

    February 27, 2018 at 10:57 am

    Today is three years since the murder of Boris Nemtsov.

  41. 41.

    Waratah

    February 27, 2018 at 10:59 am

    @LAO: My daughter recently smashed her foot and thought she had broken a few toes. The only shoes she could put on to wear for work that did not hurt were my black Uggs. She complained about every day, they were ugly etc.

  42. 42.

    Peale

    February 27, 2018 at 10:59 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: I’m all in favor of changing the DMSRII so that anyone with more than one gun is immediately confined as insane with the recommended treatment chemical castration, non-sedated electroshock and a lobotomy. I actually would find that to be comforting.

  43. 43.

    eric

    February 27, 2018 at 10:59 am

    Hope Hicks wrote those tweets.

  44. 44.

    FlipYrWhig

    February 27, 2018 at 11:00 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: “I never dreamed stormtroopers would confiscate MY guns!” said man agitating for Stormtroopers Confiscating Guns policy.

  45. 45.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 27, 2018 at 11:00 am

    @Gin & Tonic: That’s funny. Where did they learn to snark like that. Is there a North Korean Betty C?
    But you cover your head in a Gurudwara as a mark of respect (like in a mosque or the skullcap in synagogue). I won’t fault JT for that.

  46. 46.

    Death Panel Truck

    February 27, 2018 at 11:00 am

    So, is Needy Amin going to get his military parade? What’s the latest on that?

  47. 47.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 11:01 am

    @LAO: This is why you need Constitutional Carry in NY and a good Stand Your Ground Law. Also, you should be able to outfit your dog with a M47 Striker Automatic Grenade Launcher for appropriate response.

  48. 48.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 27, 2018 at 11:01 am

    @LAO: I broke my toe two years ago and it was ugly and flat foot wear for a year or more. Because I kept reinjuring it. So I feel your pain.

  49. 49.

    FlipYrWhig

    February 27, 2018 at 11:02 am

    @eric: @Spanky: The four-dot ellipsis doesn’t seem like Trump at all. Nor does accurately retyping a complexly ordered statement he’s just seen on TV.

  50. 50.

    Gin & Tonic

    February 27, 2018 at 11:02 am

    @schrodingers_cat: I hate to break it to you, but that’s not really the DPRK.

  51. 51.

    Roger Moore

    February 27, 2018 at 11:03 am

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    They have strong opinions about who is obviously guilty and needs to be locked up, too.

    A list that includes just about everyone with dark skin but notably does not include white guys who threaten mass murder.

  52. 52.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 11:03 am

    @d58826: The FBI tipline gets something like 1,500 or so tips a day. That’s where the call went into. Total number of FBI employees – special agents, analysts, administrative support, lab/technical forensic personnel, non–political appointment administrators – is about 37,000 personnel to cover the entire US, territories, as well as serve on US embassy staff as law enforcement liaison officers.

    That’s why.

  53. 53.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 27, 2018 at 11:05 am

    @Gin & Tonic: I has a disappoint. Coming up with dotard for the orange one was genius, though.

  54. 54.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 11:08 am

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho: They filed for reelection during the inauguration. It was reported at the time that this was Bannon’s idea. That he thought it would allow them to leverage Federal election law to prevent politicians, interest groups, and even ordinary Americans from criticizing the President on what he was actually doing because he was already running for reelection.

    These are not the smartest people.

  55. 55.

    Jeffro

    February 27, 2018 at 11:08 am

    @Adam L Silverman: busy ‘Chasing Ghosts’, as it were…couldn’t John Mueller and Mark Stewart crank out a quick op-ed or something? It’d be helpful to get the word out about the magnitude of what federal law enforcement is dealing with here.

  56. 56.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 11:09 am

    @LAO: Wasn’t there a Federal law that they might have been able to use if you squinted at it just right?

  57. 57.

    LAO

    February 27, 2018 at 11:09 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Oh, I stood my ground (which was the problem). And, keeping Maggie from eviscerating the cyclist managed to distract me from the pain.

  58. 58.

    No One of Consequence

    February 27, 2018 at 11:10 am

    So, can one safely assume that Mueller gets transcripts, or complete testimony copies from the House Intelligence Cmte. meetings with regards to testimony? Or is there a ‘wall’ there where he cannot avail himself of testimony (such as Hicks’) in that Cmte. meeting?

    Thanks, for those of us trying to following the bouncing ball…

    – NOoC

  59. 59.

    randy khan

    February 27, 2018 at 11:12 am

    @d58826:

    Somewhat OT but the current right wing talking point is the FBI dropped the ball on the Parkland shooter and they had him on a silver platter. Now the FBI should figure out why the information it had did not get from DC to Fla, but if it had what could the FBI do? We don’t have preventative detention. The locals had long experience with the guy so what magic could the FBI have added. Other than it is part of the RW effort to discredit the FBI to protect Der Fuhrer.

    My response to that has been that almost every single mass shooting results from a failure of some sort, and that’s because all of the systems to prevent these things are run by people who are imperfect. Trying to perfect the systems is a waste of time; it’s much more effective to eliminate or highly restrict the tools used to commit these crimes, just like we do with dynamite.

  60. 60.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 11:16 am

    @d58826: Florida has an involuntary 72 hour evaluatory hold. It is called the Baker Act.
    http://www.cchrflorida.org/question-and-answers-about-the-florida-involuntary-commitment-law-the-baker-act/
    http://www.myflfamilies.com/service-programs/mental-health/baker-act
    https://ufhealth.org/baker-act

  61. 61.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    February 27, 2018 at 11:18 am

    @schrodingers_cat: Isn’t that the coolest Twitter account? I think Mrs. Cracker is among the authors, and while I follow is, I often forget to read it!

    Good medal parody! It’s also great when people thi it’s really DPRK.

  62. 62.

    laura

    February 27, 2018 at 11:18 am

    @germy: Janus is the fucker who’s going to destroy my career, that’s who.
    Him and the politicized Supreme Court including my own law school’s Anthony Kennedy. It’s a return to Lochner. And that bodes poorly for anyone who works for a living, unionized or not.

  63. 63.

    d58826

    February 27, 2018 at 11:18 am

    @randy khan:

    Trying to perfect the systems is a waste of time

    To many links in the chain to fix. On the other hand the key link – the gun – should be easy to fix. Take out that link and the guy is reduced to using clubs or rocks.

  64. 64.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 11:20 am

    @eric: Or the caddy.

  65. 65.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    February 27, 2018 at 11:22 am

    @Tokyokie:

    Rapists on the Baylor Bears? But that’s a fine Christian school!//

  66. 66.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 11:22 am

    @Gin & Tonic: If it was, we’d be in far better shape in terms of regional concerns.

  67. 67.

    gratuitous

    February 27, 2018 at 11:22 am

    I totally believe that Donald Trump researched, assembled, and typed out those quotes in his tweets. I also believe I can fly to the moon just by flapping my arms.

  68. 68.

    catclub

    February 27, 2018 at 11:22 am

    @Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho:

    Has there been another Presidential campaign that started having events right after the inauguration?

    Obviously no. The reason/excuse/legal fig leaf Trump can fly around and have his pep rallys is that they are part of his 2020 campaign.

  69. 69.

    burnspbesq

    February 27, 2018 at 11:24 am

    Meanwhile, the Supremes hear argument this morning in U.S. v. Microsoft, which presents the mildly interesting question of whether the Stored Communications Act and the Fourth Amendment permit U.S. law enforcement to obtain data stored outside the United States by a U.S. person.

    Be afraid. Be very afraid. For the first time since he croaked, I miss Scalia. He was good on this kind of stuff.

  70. 70.

    eric

    February 27, 2018 at 11:24 am

    @catclub: and he can rent out space in his properties to his campaign and pay people to work on the campaign as part of The Grift.

  71. 71.

    Fair Economist

    February 27, 2018 at 11:24 am

    @d58826:

    Now the FBI should figure out why the information it had did not get from DC to Fla, but if it had what could the FBI do?

    Nothing. There were several messages asking authorities to take his guns away, but the NRA has gotten laws passed preventing both the FBI and Florida police from doing that. Thanks to the NRA, there was nothing the authorities could do.

  72. 72.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    February 27, 2018 at 11:25 am

    @Death Panel Truck:

    Needy Amin–that’s funny!

  73. 73.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 11:26 am

    @Jeffro: I don’t know who those two people are.

    That said, the FBI is not a very large law enforcement organization given the size of the US. Some of this is what they have historically focused on. Some of this is that specialized Federal law enforcement concerns are spun off – BATF, ICE, CBP, Army CID, NCIS, CGIS, AFOSI, Secret Service, IRS Special Agents/Investigators, Postal Inspectors, etc. And the biggest reason is that the vast majority of law enforcement in the US is done at the state and local levels.

  74. 74.

    eric

    February 27, 2018 at 11:27 am

    comment deleted. not appropriate humor under the circumstances

  75. 75.

    trollhattan

    February 27, 2018 at 11:27 am

    @laura:
    I can foresee the arc of this and the endpoint mess is not pretty. McConnell’s USSC ploy will have paid his investors in full with just this one case.

  76. 76.

    Bobby Thomson

    February 27, 2018 at 11:27 am

    @FlipYrWhig: True.

  77. 77.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 11:29 am

    @No One of Consequence: It isn’t automatic. If I recall the reporting correctly he’s gotten, on a voluntary basis, material from the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. And I do know that a deconfliction protocol was put in place by memorandum between the Special Counsel/DOJ and Congress. Given separation of power issues, I’m not sure what would happen if Mueller dropped a subpoena on the committees for transcripts from closed sessions.

  78. 78.

    Betty Cracker

    February 27, 2018 at 11:29 am

    Regarding the authorship of the tweets, I assume someone else input content for all but the one at the top of the image since they are quotes that appear to be more or less accurate renderings of what was said, lack random capitalization, etc. But I suspect Trump directed a minion to put the tweets together based on what he found exculpatory while watching Fox & Friends or TiVO’d Fox programming from last night. I guess it’s possible someone else does Trump’s tweets without consulting with him, but I doubt it.

  79. 79.

    rikyrah

    February 27, 2018 at 11:30 am

    By the way, where is Sen. Mitch McConnell? Why hasn’t he had to answer serious questions about his response to President Obama’s 2016 plea for a bipartisan stand against Russian election interference? https://t.co/Ju0amDgAkq

    — Sherrilyn Ifill (@Sifill_LDF) February 27, 2018

  80. 80.

    Gin & Tonic

    February 27, 2018 at 11:32 am

    @burnspbesq: But let’s say, completely hypothetically, that a US-resident Internet user stores his data in, say, Norway, with a company incorporated and domiciled in Norway, which tells US law enforcement to pound sand when they ask for said Internet user’s data. Does US law enforcement have any recourse?

  81. 81.

    Bobby Thomson

    February 27, 2018 at 11:33 am

    @LAO: Don’t know why he’s so worried. The Republicans on the Committee will protect her and him. And Russia.

  82. 82.

    VOR

    February 27, 2018 at 11:34 am

    @Adam L Silverman: My recollection from the CNN Town Hall last week is that the Broward Co. Sheriff specifically said they could not have used the Baker Act, that they needed expanded powers. I could easily be wrong since I had no idea what the Baker Act was at the time.

  83. 83.

    Bobby Thomson

    February 27, 2018 at 11:37 am

    OT, but people have been looking at Levi Sanders’ 2016 tweets and holy shit. Pro-NRA, pro-Confederate flag, pro-Trump.

  84. 84.

    Jeffro

    February 27, 2018 at 11:38 am

    @Adam L Silverman: They’re the authors of ‘Chasing Ghosts’ – a book about all the time and effort and money we’re spending trying to keep up with the deluge of anti-terrorist tips?

  85. 85.

    Jeffro

    February 27, 2018 at 11:38 am

    I’m seeing reporting that Mueller has moved to dismiss charges against Rick Gates? Holy cow…he must have given up the GOOD stuff on Manafort/Trumpov…

  86. 86.

    HeleninEire

    February 27, 2018 at 11:42 am

    @LAO: We could have a club. I got hit by a cyclist right outside of Union Square Park. He hit me from behind. I was wearing a shirt with no stockings and I had the impression of a bike wheel tread on my calf for two weeks!

    One of my few complaints about Dublin. Cycling is very popular here, much more than in NY. But they cyclists ride on the sidewalk all the time. I have had at least a half dozen near misses, and one guy clipped me. If I die in a traffic accident it’s not gonna be by car or truck. It’s gonna be by bicycle.

  87. 87.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 11:42 am

    @Betty Cracker: Three people do tweets from his account: 1) the President, 2) the Caddy (Scavino), 3) Hicks. Anything done really late at night or really early in the morning when the President isn’t traveling is the President as Scavino and Hicks aren’t around. Anything with strange phrasing plus random capitalizations plus the grammar, punctuation, and syntax of a sugared up 7 year old in remedial English is by the President. Every other tweet are either Scavino and Hicks tweeting what he dictate to him or channeling him. The latter tend to be more Scavino as he has learned how to mimic the President’s tone and phrasing without the strange grammatical errors.

  88. 88.

    eric

    February 27, 2018 at 11:42 am

    @Jeffro: good boy!

  89. 89.

    Gin & Tonic

    February 27, 2018 at 11:43 am

    @Bobby Thomson: I’ve mentioned this before, but his father unseated an incumbent Republican when he first ran for the House due (in part) to help from Wayne LaPierre. Apple, tree.

  90. 90.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 11:44 am

    @VOR: I don’t know if they could or could not use it. I just know that it exists.

  91. 91.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 11:46 am

    @Bobby Thomson: Here’s the thread for you:

    Self-awareness, you had one job. #nh01 #nhpolitics pic.twitter.com/pqttMrQvqx

    — Dean Barker (@deanbarker) February 25, 2018

  92. 92.

    gvg

    February 27, 2018 at 11:47 am

    how would we design a law to keep guns away from the threatening?
    Who? Convicted of Violent Crimes? Domestic violence accusations of only convictions? What other types correlate with gun violence (including suicide)? this is why CDC and other authorities not being able to study gun violence is bad, we need correct info.
    Require licenses? Renewal tests? What rules? Cost?
    Registration of all guns? Gun nuts are extremely primed to go nuts about this but I think it would be good. Insurance?
    Taxes on guns and bullets?
    Who does psych evals if required? We are actually short of enough to meet needs without new laws requiring more services.
    Court for challenging decisions or petitioning based on something changing or inaccurate reasons? Who holds confiscated guns? Cost? Who pays?
    who enforces?

  93. 93.

    ? Martin

    February 27, 2018 at 11:49 am

    @d58826: Read this.

    Follow a simple timeline: 2011/2012 Broward County School administration made a policy decision to block the arrests of students in order to improve their education statistics.

    So, I’m not sure how much of this to believe, but as an education administrator, what he describes is entirely plausible and fits a pattern that I’ve seen in other areas. This is why universities handle sexual assault cases in-house rather than going through the police – it reduces their crime statistics because they’re never reported as crimes (the victims similarly never see justice done). Same for other on-campus offenses such as underage drinking or drug use.

    My guess is that the FBI didn’t ignore this, but the Broward county police did. What’s more, the behaviors that the FBI were supposed to pick up on are behaviors that the NRA and the GOP are trying to make commonplace. Somehow we are supposed to see someone walking around with a gun and magically know if they are about to shoot up a school or are some kind of 2nd amendment patriot exercising their rights. Sorry, it doesn’t work that way. When you flood the community with potential shooters, we’re going to start ignoring potential shooters as something that needs to be acted on, which is also going to apply to the FBI at some point. Since you don’t need a permit to own an AR-15 in Florida, what was there for the FBI to really act on?

  94. 94.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 11:53 am

    Someone was up late doing his Ubermensch cosplay:

    Stephen Miller caught sleeping during White House meeting on school safety https://t.co/QdUEvUs7Qa pic.twitter.com/AfKVsn1CL9

    — The Hill (@thehill) February 27, 2018

    Photographer from @epaphotos caught Stephen Miller nodding off during the hour-plus White House meeting on school safety. pic.twitter.com/R9F9hqfaCW

    — Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) February 26, 2018

  95. 95.

    Timurid

    February 27, 2018 at 11:53 am

    @Adam L Silverman:
    OT again, but if you teach that class again… if you haven’t seen it already, a good book on military culture in South Asia during the Mughal and early colonial eras is Naukar, Rajput and Sepoy by Dirk Kolff.

  96. 96.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 27, 2018 at 11:55 am

    @Gin & Tonic: It’s also three years since the passing to Vulcan Heaven of Leonard Nimoy.

  97. 97.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 11:56 am

    @Jeffro: Okay.

  98. 98.

    Barbara

    February 27, 2018 at 11:56 am

    @? Martin: The kid had been expelled from school, he had been evaluated by the state department of family services, he “came to the attention” of the sheriff’s office literally dozens of times. And he was never, not once, arrested, much less was he charged or set down for involuntary commitment. The couple who allowed him to live with them after his mother died did not notice anything amiss. At most, the FBI would have referred him back to these same agencies for further evaluation. Maybe, maybe, the parents would have connected the dots and taken his guns away, except that they thought he didn’t actually have access to the guns because they thought they had the only key.

  99. 99.

    Manxome Bromide

    February 27, 2018 at 11:56 am

    @burnspbesq: It occurs to me that I’ve mostly heard about this case from Internet Libertarians and as such am wildly misinformed. Their version of this seemed to be that cyberpunk-style data havens ought to exist but were under attack here, while your description is talking about the Fourth Amendment.

    It’s pretty clear from your description that no matter which way this goes, nobody in a lawsuit could actually hand a blank folder to the court and say “here are your discovery results because I’m only obliged to produce documents I store in the United States.” What’s actually at stake?

  100. 100.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 11:57 am

    @HeleninEire:

    If I die in a traffic accident it’s not gonna be by car or truck. It’s gonna be by bicycle.

    Your commitment to environmentally responsible ways to die is noted and appreciated by all those concerned with the safety of the planet.

  101. 101.

    Roger Moore

    February 27, 2018 at 11:59 am

    @Bobby Thomson:
    This is my shocked face. There’s a lot less space between Sandersnistas and Trumpkins than most people are willing to admit.

  102. 102.

    ? Martin

    February 27, 2018 at 12:00 pm

    @Barbara:

    Maybe, maybe, the parents would have connected the dots and taken his guns away, except that they thought he didn’t actually have access to the guns because they thought they had the only key.

    They couldn’t take his guns away. He was an adult and hadn’t violated any conditions for gun ownership in Florida (because there effectively aren’t any).

  103. 103.

    JR

    February 27, 2018 at 12:01 pm

    Time is running out, tick-tock like the grains of sand

  104. 104.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 12:01 pm

    @? Martin: What Broward County and Broward County Schools did was change policy to try to break the school to juvenile detention/jail pipeline. They moved away from zero tolerance policies and actions and towards an interventionist approach to disrupt the activity and reorient the students. Whether what happened with Cruz shows that this approach is a failure or not is, I think, missing something. Given Florida law, Cruz would have likely been able to have done this in any of Florida’s school districts.

  105. 105.

    Chyron HR

    February 27, 2018 at 12:01 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    What in god’s name is that psychotic piece of shit even going on about? Chelsea Clinton curates Donald Trump’s PDB? Or do these deranged assholes live in a world where Hillary really is President and it’s actually HER daughter who hangs around all day pretending to be the vice president?

  106. 106.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 12:02 pm

    @Timurid: Thanks, I appreciate the recommendation.

  107. 107.

    WereBear

    February 27, 2018 at 12:03 pm

    @rikyrah: paid $26 million for unspecified inauguration planning services

    So that is what the kids are calling it these days.

  108. 108.

    Feathers

    February 27, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    @rikyrah: My take on this is that it was Melania trying to squirrel away some get out of Dodge money, using her friend as a cutout.

    She had to throw her friend under the bus to save her own ass.

  109. 109.

    Roger Moore

    February 27, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    @? Martin:

    Somehow we are supposed to see someone walking around with a gun and magically know if they are about to shoot up a school or are some kind of 2nd amendment patriot exercising their rights.

    There’s nothing magic about it. White skin = patriot exercising 2nd Amendment rights; dark skin = criminal about to cause mass havoc. That’s why the NRA refuses to stand up for the rights of black people like Philando Castile even though they would have cried bloody murder had the exact same thing happened to a white person.

  110. 110.

    Miss Bianca

    February 27, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    @Death Panel Truck: OK, I like “Needy Amin”.

    The only – and I mean only – silver lining to the orange fart cloud’s regime is the scores of inventive nicknames people have come up with to describe him.

  111. 111.

    debbie

    February 27, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    @d58826:

    Today, Glenn Beck insisted Cruz had called the police and asked for help, but they ignored him.

  112. 112.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 12:06 pm

    @Chyron HR: I have no idea. I didn’t even know there was a Levi Sanders till Bobby Thomson posted that comment. If anything I would have thought it was the strangest corporate brand merger in history: 501 herbs and spices button fly chicken tenders or something.

  113. 113.

    ? Martin

    February 27, 2018 at 12:07 pm

    Short version of this: Hicks will lie, because it’s now proven they all lie. The reason they lie is that the willingness to lie for the boss is a primary reason they got hired. Anyone think Trump is nominating his pilot to head the FAA for any reason other than Trump knows what the pilot is willing to cover up? You think the pilot doesn’t know about the affairs?

    The White House is an organized crime syndicate. They were hired for their willingness to loot the country for the benefit of themselves and the bosses, and through their willingness to be participants in that act they can be trusted to lie since every single one of them would go to prison if anyone told the truth. Yes, Hicks will lie, she will be caught in that lie because in addition to them all being criminals, they are also all idiots, and Mueller will pin her up on his wall along with Gates and Flynn.

  114. 114.

    Miss Bianca

    February 27, 2018 at 12:09 pm

    @burnspbesq: Yeah, privacy was kind of Scalia’s thing, and the absolute *only* times I ever agreed with either his or Thomas’s arguments were when they were dealing with 4th Amendment types of issues.

  115. 115.

    patrick II

    February 27, 2018 at 12:10 pm

    Natalia Veselnitskaya is the Russian lawyer who attended the Trump Tower meeting. She is also the lawyer who was representing the entity trying to launder the $230 million taken in the Magnitsky heist, which eventually caused Magnitsky’s death. The New York Justice Department was ready to go to trial and felt confident about the case and a recovery of the full $230 million. Two weeks after the Trump Tower meeting, and just before the trial, the Justice Department lawyers on the money laundering case were told to settle for $6 million.
    I have always considered that reduction to be part of a larger payoff for the Russian’s crippling of Hillary’s campaign, and I would love to see the chain of command the order to accept a $6 million settlement and its justification.

  116. 116.

    debbie

    February 27, 2018 at 12:10 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Does this mean I can’t continue making fun of Trump for that pointy yarmulke he wore to the Wailing Wall?

  117. 117.

    JPL

    February 27, 2018 at 12:11 pm

    It’s time to mention again that only five states allow the police to remove guns from a household with a judge’s order. The states are California, Washington, Oregon, Indiana and Connecticut. Utah is now considering a similar bill.

    @Barbara: The only key statement concerned me, because they made him buy the case. Any type of case comes with two keys.

  118. 118.

    Millard Filmore

    February 27, 2018 at 12:12 pm

    @Jeffro:

    [Rick Gates] must have given up the GOOD stuff on Manafort/Trumpov…

    I’m hoping that Mueller has enough on Trump already, and that he is using Gates to go after McConnell, Ryan, and other party leaders.

  119. 119.

    ? Martin

    February 27, 2018 at 12:12 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: No, I get that, and there are merits to that approach, but the issue is that it avoids the real problem and creates a pile of new ones. Police are incentivized to arrest, because that’s what they are rewarded for and schools are incentivized to not report, because that’s what they are rewarded for. So police tend to criminalize things that should be overlooked and schools tend to overlook things that should be criminalized. By separating the two, you aren’t really solving the problem, you’re just declaring the over-criminalization to be an unsolvable problem and removing the police from the equation. Well, guess what that leads to?

  120. 120.

    MattF

    February 27, 2018 at 12:13 pm

    @burnspbesq: Maybe it all depends on what ‘stored’ means. What about information that goes through data channels ‘located’ in the US? Or elsewhere?

    I corresponded via email a few times with an economist in Ghana, back in the days when email headers traced the whole path of any data flow from point A to point B, and one of the nodes in the email path was always ‘Earth’. Which… could be anywhere.

  121. 121.

    Miss Bianca

    February 27, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Yeah, he was sleeping until the talk turned to putting armed white male nutjobs in the schools. Then he perked right up.//

  122. 122.

    NotMax

    February 27, 2018 at 12:15 pm

    Somewhat surprising that Sessions hasn’t come out and blamed the shooting on maryjane.

  123. 123.

    debbie

    February 27, 2018 at 12:17 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    In other words, F you and your Cloud.

  124. 124.

    Kay

    February 27, 2018 at 12:17 pm

    I keep telling you guys, they are just better people

    Bad behaviors have declined substantially since the mid-90s and good behaviors have increased. It’s pretty astonishing how widespread this is. They may annoy us with their smartphones and insistence on doing good works, but they’re in a helluva lot better shape than us Boomer/Gen X folks ever were

    They can be annoying, all right, especially when they’re protesting guns. But all jokes aside, it’s worth being in awe of just how much better today’s teenagers are than those of Loesch’s era.

    Just let them take over. It will be fine.

  125. 125.

    JPL

    February 27, 2018 at 12:17 pm

    In order to continue making GA a laughing stock of the nation, current SOS and candidate for governor Brian Kemp wants to declare July 4th to be a sales tax holiday for guns and ammo.

  126. 126.

    Matt

    February 27, 2018 at 12:17 pm

    @? Martin:

    The worrying question: it’s looking increasingly likely that nontrivial parts of the GOP leadership & even some donors are involved in the mess – at what point does the conspiracy become Too Big To Jail?

  127. 127.

    MattF

    February 27, 2018 at 12:19 pm

    @? Martin: Bear in mind that Trump hired Hicks and has kept her in the organization for many years. So, yeah, ‘GUILTY’. And I’m not being snarky.

  128. 128.

    NotMax

    February 27, 2018 at 12:21 pm

    @JPL

    After someone(s) convinced him that choosing MLK, Jr. Day would be bad form?

  129. 129.

    PaulWartenberg

    February 27, 2018 at 12:21 pm

    So if trump weighs the same as a duck, he’s made of wood…

  130. 130.

    Barbara

    February 27, 2018 at 12:21 pm

    @? Martin: They allowed him to live with them. They could have constructively prevented him from having access without permission, and indeed they thought they had done that. They made it a condition of his being able to live with them.

  131. 131.

    geg6

    February 27, 2018 at 12:22 pm

    @germy:

    Guess they don’t ask him about his views on the #MeToo movement being that he’s such an expert in covering up sexual assaults. Unless they are consentual, that is.

  132. 132.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 27, 2018 at 12:22 pm

    @debbie: T is in a league of his own, so make all the fun you want.

  133. 133.

    GxB

    February 27, 2018 at 12:23 pm

    Re: The “Witch Hunt” twit.

    Well, if we follow that analogy, the fact that the turmeric taint’s close associates have been getting 55 gallon drums with “Eye of Newt” in Cyrillic on their lids might be a bit of a give away.

    BTW I looked up “eye of newt” out of curiosity – a old time name for mustard seeds, wheels within wheels man.

  134. 134.

    germy

    February 27, 2018 at 12:24 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    The only – and I mean only – silver lining to the orange fart cloud’s regime is the scores of inventive nicknames people have come up with to describe him.

    I wonder what nickname George W would invent for him.

    W was the king of nicknames. “Turd Blossom” for Karl Rove should have earned him a spot in the nickname-creating Hall of Fame.

    I wonder what he calls 45?

  135. 135.

    Fair Economist

    February 27, 2018 at 12:27 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Whether what happened with Cruz shows that this approach is a failure or not is, I think, missing something.

    If Cruz had *not* had access to guns it probably would have worked.

  136. 136.

    Joey Maloney

    February 27, 2018 at 12:27 pm

    @Death Panel Truck:

    Needy Amin

    Thanks for the chuckle.

  137. 137.

    GregB

    February 27, 2018 at 12:27 pm

    @Jeffro:

    I noticed he looked notably more relaxed on hus way in and out if court last week.

    Carrying around the weight of a gangster globalist conspiracy must have been pretty crushing.

  138. 138.

    cain

    February 27, 2018 at 12:30 pm

    @Barbara:

    @? Martin: The kid had been expelled from school, he had been evaluated by the state department of family services, he “came to the attention” of the sheriff’s office literally dozens of times. And he was never, not once, arrested, much less was he charged or set down for involuntary commitment. The couple who allowed him to live with them after his mother died did not notice anything amiss. At most, the FBI would have referred him back to these same agencies for further evaluation. Maybe, maybe, the parents would have connected the dots and taken his guns away, except that they thought he didn’t actually have access to the guns because they thought they had the only key.

    I read somewhere that the couple did know and told the police that he was a wacko.

  139. 139.

    Fair Economist

    February 27, 2018 at 12:33 pm

    @Matt:

    The worrying question: it’s looking increasingly likely that nontrivial parts of the GOP leadership & even some donors are involved in the mess – at what point does the conspiracy become Too Big To Jail?

    There are tens of thousands of African Americans in jail for marijuana possession. Release them and you’ve got enough room for every state and federal level elected Republican in the country. So: Never!

  140. 140.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    February 27, 2018 at 12:33 pm

    @Peale:

    I’m all in favor of changing the DMSRII so that anyone with more than one gun is immediately confined as insane

    You gonna put in exceptions to that for people who hunt? I’m not a hunter, so I take them at their words that they need a different gun for quail than for deer. My father had three, all bolt action long guns.

  141. 141.

    Shell

    February 27, 2018 at 12:36 pm

    Ken Starr? Where the hell did he pop up from?

  142. 142.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 27, 2018 at 12:38 pm

    @germy: “Guy who makes even me look good”?

  143. 143.

    Brachiator

    February 27, 2018 at 12:40 pm

    Someone seemed a tad nervous during this morning’s executive time

    Trump is one delusional muthafvcker. He has begun setting up his re-election team. From BBC News and other sources.

    US President Donald Trump has picked one of his political strategists as campaign manager for his 2020 re-election campaign.

    The Trump Organization hired Brad Parscale, 42, in 2011 as a digital media guru.

    He was asked in 2015 to create a website for Mr Trump’s exploratory White House bid and a year later became the campaign’s digital director.

    Trump will still be shouting “Witch Hunt! No Collusion! and What About Hillary?” when he is impeached, convicted and removed from office.

  144. 144.

    burnspbesq

    February 27, 2018 at 12:41 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Possibly. The U.S. has mutual legal assistance treaties with a number of countries, but the processes can be cumbersome.

    FWIW, my archives from the days when I had my own law firm are in Hungary.

  145. 145.

    Mike J

    February 27, 2018 at 12:42 pm

    @gvg:

    Insurance?

    Speaking of which, the two companies that handled NRA’s carry insurance announce they’re done.

    A few years ago, Kansas passed a law allowing teachers to carry and the insurance company that covers 85% of the state’s schools said they don’t need the business that bad. Same in several other states that tried it.

  146. 146.

    Miss Bianca

    February 27, 2018 at 12:43 pm

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:

    You gonna put in exceptions to that for people who hunt?

    Well, I would be, if I were King of the Forest. But I live in hunt country.

  147. 147.

    JPL

    February 27, 2018 at 12:45 pm

    @Brachiator: Who is going to impeach him?

  148. 148.

    Aleta

    February 27, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    @d58826: I keep thinking about how this is a reprieve to them.

  149. 149.

    donnah

    February 27, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    @JPL:

    Also, Georgia’s Lt Gov Casey Cagle threatened Delta airlines with denial of tax breaks if they don’t resume ties with the NRA. I read about it at Hullabaloo today

    Georgia, State of Disaster

  150. 150.

    Chyron HR

    February 27, 2018 at 12:47 pm

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:

    I’m not a hunter, so I take them at their words that they need a different gun for quail than for deer.

    Explain, without using the words “second” or “amendment”, why anyone on the face of the earth should care whether or not a hunter has the proper gun for killing a quail.

  151. 151.

    rikyrah

    February 27, 2018 at 12:50 pm

    @Fair Economist:

    The local authorities had OVER THIRTY CONTACTS WITH THE SHOOTER.

    OVER 30 AND HE’S ONLY 19 PHUCKING YEARS OLD.

    Blame the FBI?

    PHUCK OUTTA HERE!

  152. 152.

    Just One More Canuck

    February 27, 2018 at 12:50 pm

    @PaulWartenberg: And therefore,…

  153. 153.

    Fair Economist

    February 27, 2018 at 12:51 pm

    @Shell:

    Ken Starr? Where the hell did he pop up from?

    The media loves to troll us by bringing up Starr as an expert on sexual harassment and prosecutorial overreach. It’s like they are saying “look what we can get away with!”. Might as well interview the head of Daesh on antiterrorism techniques.

  154. 154.

    randy khan

    February 27, 2018 at 12:51 pm

    @MattF:

    Bear in mind that Trump hired Hicks and has kept her in the organization for many years. So, yeah, ‘GUILTY’. And I’m not being snarky.

    There’s an alternative explanation: She’s an attractive 20-something.

  155. 155.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?

    February 27, 2018 at 12:51 pm

    @donnah:
    Party of Personal Freedom and Business everybody! If you don’t support our death cult, then we’ll destroy your company.

  156. 156.

    rikyrah

    February 27, 2018 at 12:53 pm

    Trump’s Plan to Slash Legal Immigration—By the Numbers
    The president wants the biggest cut since the 1920s,
    KANYAKRIT VONGKIATKAJORNFEB. 27, 2018 6:00 AM

    Reducing illegal immigration is one of President Donald Trump’s best known policy goals. But President Donald Trump has also insisted that curbing legal immigration must be a part of an immigration deal. Efforts to pass a bipartisan immigration bill have repeatedly stalled in Congress, with Trump rejecting any deals that do not address restrictions on legal immigration and provide funding for a border wall.

    The White House’s immigration plan would put significant limits on legal family-based migration. Under the plan, legal immigrants could only sponsor their spouses and their minor children for legal permanent residency, the first step toward gaining citizenship. Citizens would no longer be able to sponsor their parents, grown children, or siblings for legal residency. Current green card holders would no longer be able to sponsor their adult children. The proposal draws heavily from the RAISE Act, legislation proposed last February by Republican senators Tom Cotton of Arkansas and David Perdue of Georgia. The changes would be applied “prospectively, not retroactively,” according to the White House, likely meaning that current applications would still be processed, but future applications would be blocked.

    Trump’s proposal would be the largest policy cut to to legal immigration since the 1920s, and the largest immigration policy shift since 1965, according to the libertarian Cato Institute.

  157. 157.

    donnah

    February 27, 2018 at 12:57 pm

    @? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?:

    I emailed Delta this morning and expressed my support for their disconnect from the NRA, if only to stop offering discounts for their members. It may just be a small gesture to email them, but lots of small gestures add up. And I’ll choose Delta for my flights this year, if they stay away from the NRA.

  158. 158.

    Miss Bianca

    February 27, 2018 at 1:00 pm

    @Chyron HR: “Explain, without using the words “second” or “amendment”, why anyone on the face of the earth should care whether or not a hunter has the proper gun for killing a quail.”

    Because the proper gun for hunting birds is a shotgun. Which is different from a rifle, which would be more appropriate for larger game. As to why anyone on the face of the earth should care…well, dumbass, not all of us live in the city. Some of us live in the country, where some people not only hunt, but are also dependent to a not-insignificant degree on tourism from hunters and anglers to contribute to the local economy.

    And these hunters and anglers are powerful allies not only to the human economy, but the non-human one as well – since they tend to be the only fucking people the right-wing nutjobs out here will listen to when it comes to arguments against trying to seize and sell off access to public lands.

    So, *I* care about hunters having the proper tools. There.

    Now, take the words “Second” and “Amendment” and cram them up your self-righteous ass.

  159. 159.

    Booger

    February 27, 2018 at 1:01 pm

    @LAO: keeping Maggie from eviscerating the cyclist

    Well there’s your problem right there.

  160. 160.

    TenguPhule

    February 27, 2018 at 1:03 pm

    @Chyron HR:

    Explain, without using the words “second” or “amendment”, why anyone on the face of the earth should care whether or not a hunter has the proper gun for killing a quail.

    They’re quite tasty and small buggers so you need to use a shotgun with bird shot in order to kill it and still have something to eat.

  161. 161.

    The Moar You Know

    February 27, 2018 at 1:09 pm

    I wonder what he calls 45?

    @germy: “the guy who saved my reputation”

  162. 162.

    Spanky

    February 27, 2018 at 1:10 pm

    Belongs here, but this is kind of a dead thread. In any case, per CNN:

    House intel Republican: Hicks won’t answer questions about time at White House

  163. 163.

    Brachiator

    February 27, 2018 at 1:11 pm

    @JPL:

    Who is going to impeach him?

    Wishful thinking on my part.

  164. 164.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?

    February 27, 2018 at 1:14 pm

    @JPL:
    The new Dem majority sworn in next January.

  165. 165.

    germy

    February 27, 2018 at 1:18 pm

    She warned us. There’s even video.

    Hillary warned us over a year ago that DJT would try to put guns in classrooms, and y’all didnt listen

    Now we have Ivanka telling us we need to start having serious discussions about arming teachers.

    Absolutely awful. pic.twitter.com/lYnX7TNC4o— Pᴀᴛʀɪᴄᴋ Kᴀʀʟssᴏɴ ⛈ (@Patrickesque) February 26, 2018

  166. 166.

    sukabi

    February 27, 2018 at 1:20 pm

    @rikyrah: Pure speculation follows…..it would appear that the $26 million to Melania’s friend was a duplicate amount paid to another event planning organization. Melania has now cut ties with her “friend”. Either Drumpf is paying off another mistress, or he’s embezzeling inauguration funds, or both….

    Of course he could be making payments on his vig as well…

  167. 167.

    TenguPhule

    February 27, 2018 at 1:22 pm

    @germy:

    Hillary warned us over a year ago that DJT would try to put guns in classrooms, and y’all didnt listen

    I do not like this modern retelling of the Trojan War.

    Cassandra was right.

  168. 168.

    TenguPhule

    February 27, 2018 at 1:23 pm

    @sukabi:

    Either Drumpf is paying off another mistress, or he’s embezzeling inauguration funds,

    Embezzelling. Count on it.

  169. 169.

    Doug R

    February 27, 2018 at 1:24 pm

    @LAO: So Maggie “stood her ground”.

  170. 170.

    LAO

    February 27, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    @Booger: Funny, my father had a similar reaction.

    @Doug R: She was a very upset pit mix.

  171. 171.

    wenchacha

    February 27, 2018 at 1:30 pm

    Can someone explain Jonathan Turley to me? There was a time I thought he was a sane, sensible person. Does he not see any behavior by 45, et al., that is suspicious as regards Russian interference and influence? I know I have a bias; I am not a legal scholar, never been a fan of the shitgibbon. Even so, if Obama had been lugging so much baggage, I would have had second and third thoughts. At least.

  172. 172.

    notoriousJRT

    February 27, 2018 at 1:31 pm

    @FlipYrWhig:
    You know, Jonathan Turley is not on the Mueller team. So, the evidence he has seen is, you know, limited. But BLOTUS tries to take shelter and comfort from wherever he can.

  173. 173.

    J R in WV

    February 27, 2018 at 1:31 pm

    @rikyrah:

    Well, that’s probably advisable, esp. if she and Melania have an agreement to split that money after she and The Russo-president Trump divorce. Breaking up for a year or so, and then Melania getting hired after becoming a single mother of Barron, to earn her share of the booty. Not the worst plan I’ve heard out of this admin.

  174. 174.

    drkrick

    February 27, 2018 at 1:32 pm

    Isn’t one of the reasons they keep talking about “no collusion” that collusion isn’t a term with a legal definition? I seems like the legal toadies are generally less willing to say there’s no conspiracy.

  175. 175.

    Bobby Thomson

    February 27, 2018 at 1:32 pm

    @wenchacha: Turley is a partisan hack. He backed the legally frivolous challenge to Obamacare that claimed Congress knowingly designed the exchanges to fail.

  176. 176.

    Bobby Thomson

    February 27, 2018 at 1:35 pm

    @drkrick: he is colluding/conspiring every day by (1) refusing to implement the sanctions required by legislation, and (2) refusing to instruct the head of the NSA to do anything about Russian interference in the 2018 elections. Republicans don’t care. They are all traitors. That’s not name calling – they literally are doing nothing in the face of an open threat to our democracy.

  177. 177.

    Jay S

    February 27, 2018 at 1:36 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    “Guy who makes even me look good”?

    Not pithy enough. Maybe in is comment about the inauguration “Crazy shit” was the nickname and not a description of the event.

  178. 178.

    Bobby Thomson

    February 27, 2018 at 1:37 pm

    @sukabi: Or CREEP II.

  179. 179.

    J R in WV

    February 27, 2018 at 1:43 pm

    @LAO:

    We have a friend, probably in his 60s now, who moved to NYC and became a bike messenger to get in shape, about 20 years ago. He got hit by a cab, who was in violation when the accident happened. When he got out of the hospital, he could afford a modest apartment in a gentrified part of Brooklyn. Though he doesn’t ride a bike anymore.

    Another friend rides in Central Park every day to stay in shape, safer than the mean city streets. He was pumping down hill, probably between 40 and 50 mph, when a diving hawk, attempting to convert a Central Park Squirrel into dinner for the whole family hit his front wheel, stopping the rotation instantly. John was over the handlebars, broken ribs and collar bone, lucky to not break his neck. When he woke up from the concussion, he didn’t have any idea what happened.

    Investigators told him they found the dead falcon mostly tangled in his front fork and wheel, and that obviously caused the accident. The falcon was probably moving about 70 mph, so no wonder John never saw it. He was really lucky, and wearing a helmet, which probably helped save his life.

  180. 180.

    ? Martin

    February 27, 2018 at 1:43 pm

    @germy:

    She warned us. There’s even video.

    Yes, but her emails.

  181. 181.

    VeniceRiley

    February 27, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    What are we going to call carpet bagging Levi? Levi Wilmer?

  182. 182.

    rikyrah

    February 27, 2018 at 1:48 pm

    @Bobby Thomson:

    Republicans don’t care. They are all traitors. That’s not name calling – they literally are doing nothing in the face of an open threat to our democracy.

    TRAITORS

  183. 183.

    Chyron HR

    February 27, 2018 at 1:52 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    Sorry, please answer without using the words “second” or “amendment” OR throwing a psychotic shrieking fit because someone disrespected the glorious philosopher-kings of Real America who spend their days shooting small funny-looking birds. That better?

  184. 184.

    The Moar You Know

    February 27, 2018 at 1:56 pm

    Can someone explain Jonathan Turley to me? There was a time I thought he was a sane, sensible person. Does he not see any behavior by 45, et al., that is suspicious as regards Russian interference and influence?

    @wenchacha: Like you, I used to be a fan. He clearly lost his shit after Obama got elected and within a year, his blog was unreadable and worthless. And he has drunk ALL the Kool-Aid, he will go to the wall for the GOP and Trump and Trump’s right to sell out America democracy.

    He never struck me as one, but it’s apparent that, like Pat Lang, he was a racist who never knew it until America put a black guy in charge. Like Lang, he still doesn’t know he’s a racist. Doesn’t change the facts.

  185. 185.

    gvg

    February 27, 2018 at 1:57 pm

    @Chyron HR: I have never fired a gun in my life but I think it has something to do with the size of the different shot. People can’t eat parts of bullets. quail are small. hitting them with too big a shot blows big holes in the meat and/or leave bits of lead thoughout the food.
    Hitting something too big with too small a shot just hurts the animal. Hunter ethics say don’t leave injured animals to die in pain. I picked this up from books.
    I would prefer we got back to a culture where some people carefully hunted for food and people didn’t debate guns in the context of killing people over fantasies. in a lot of ways there are 2 separate gun communities and the violent toward human part is not the same as the real hunter part. The hunter group needs to be separated from the thugs so that we can defeat the thugs better. there is some overlap of course, but also the thugs are using the hunters to confuse the issues.

  186. 186.

    Another Scott

    February 27, 2018 at 2:00 pm

    @germy: TheMarshallProject:

    Unions representing the nation’s largest police departments are pressing the U.S. Supreme Court to protect cops’ bargaining power from a possible “death spiral.” Siding with the rest of organized labor and against the vocally cop-friendly Trump administration, nearly 20 law enforcement groups have signed “friend of the court” briefs urging the court not to outlaw the mandatory dues that pay for their bargaining and lobbying activities.At issue is a case called Janus v. AFSCME, which has snaked its way from the lower courts in Illinois to the country’s top court. Oral arguments begin on Monday, and the court is widely expected to strike down mandatory dues in a ruling by the end of June.

    […]

    The country’s largest police union, the National Fraternal Order of Police, which endorsed Trump, asserted in its brief that a ruling in Janus’ favor would lead to a “death spiral” for law enforcement. “When individuals begin to forgo their union membership, this problem continues to compound itself,” the police union wrote. “Less members means the union must continue to make up the difference by imposing higher dues and providing reduced services…once union membership enters this tailspin, unions themselves may begin to fold.”

    […]

    Nobody could have predicted…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  187. 187.

    Miss Bianca

    February 27, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    @Chyron HR: “psychotic shrieking fit”?

    It’s not a “psychotic shrieking fit” to say that hunters, and hunting guns, have a place in the rural economy, you smug little son of a bitch.

    AND since you have now moved the goal posts, you have proven that had no intention of being satisfied by any, you know, actual argument that doesn’t genuflect to your preconceived notions and prejudices, so find some other fool to practice your trolling skills on.

  188. 188.

    The Moar You Know

    February 27, 2018 at 2:04 pm

    Sorry, please answer without using the words “second” or “amendment” OR throwing a psychotic shrieking fit because someone disrespected the glorious philosopher-kings of Real America who spend their days shooting small funny-looking birds.

    @Chyron HR: They’re tools. Use the right tool for the job. I don’t use a chainsaw on pearl inlay work, I wouldn’t shoot birds with a deer rifle. I don’t use an inlay saw trying to reduce a walnut tree to usable sizes for a guitar’s back and sides, nor would I use birdshot to try and shoot an elk.

  189. 189.

    Anonymous patient

    February 27, 2018 at 2:05 pm

    @gratuitous:

    I flapped my arms and flew to the Moon once, just a few years ago. It was at a summer solstice festival, longest day of the year. The Fuel was odd little dried mushrooms, but they got me going OK and the rest was cake!!

    There was a bubble blower creating bubbles a yard across, which got into the updraft from the bonfire, and off we went!!! The night sky colors were also great…

  190. 190.

    Another Scott

    February 27, 2018 at 2:10 pm

    @burnspbesq: Meh.

    Can someone explain to me why digital information should have greater protection than information on paper? If the police have a warrant they can take every scrap of paper related to their investigation. Why should the same information, that is on a hard drive somewhere, be treated differently?

    I’m all for privacy. And I understand the issues with metadata and digital breadcrumbs and facial recognition and all the rest.

    But information subject to subpoena and search warrants should not have different protections depending on whether it is on paper or on a hard drive. It’s the information that matters – not how it is stored.

    If someone has a good argument to the contrary, I’d be interested in hearing it.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  191. 191.

    Miss Bianca

    February 27, 2018 at 2:12 pm

    @gvg: Don’t bother trying to argue. Fucker doesn’t want facts or argument – he just wants to demonstrate his alleged moral superiority. In other words…trolling.

  192. 192.

    Gravenstone

    February 27, 2018 at 2:32 pm

    @Jeffro: He signed a cooperation agreement. And you can bet if he breaks that agreement in any fashion, the charges get slapped right the fuck back on, with multipliers.

  193. 193.

    J R in WV

    February 27, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    @Matt:

    it’s looking increasingly likely that nontrivial parts of the GOP leadership & even some donors are involved in the mess – at what point does the conspiracy become Too Big To Jail?

    Never. Put ALL OF THEM in the Houston AstroDome if necessary, under armed guard, with the parking lots surrounded by jail-type fences so as to have outdoor space for the one hour a day they’re allowed out of their cage/seat. All of them, every one. If there are children with no one left to care for them, foster care, or a children’s school in trailers outside the AstroDome nation’s largest prison building.

  194. 194.

    burnspbesq

    February 27, 2018 at 2:49 pm

    @Another Scott:

    False framing. It’s not about “more,” it’s about “the same.” If the cops serve a search warrant on me at my house in OC, I am not required to fly to Ireland and retrieve all the incriminating documents at my vacation house in Galway. As you correctly point out, bits and hard copy should be treated equivalently.

    The words “particularly describing” are not surplusage. Not a single word in the Fourth Amendement is surplusage.

  195. 195.

    WaterGirl

    February 27, 2018 at 2:51 pm

    @Another Scott: I would add this. They may be entitled to scraps of paper in my house – with a search warrant – but they are not entitled to everything in my digital footprint and they are certainly not entitled to it without a warrant.

    Also, I don’t have any paper lying around that would let them see every single location – not just where but when – that I have been at in the past year because of GPS on my phone.

  196. 196.

    J R in WV

    February 27, 2018 at 2:58 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    Yes, what you say. I have used high-powered pistols to dispatch several deer that were fatally injured around the farm, from a .38 revolver to a .45 (semi)automatic. One deer was a trophy-worthy buck, 9 or 10 point, that had been partly eviscerated by coyotes, the other was a fawn with a badly broken leg.

    Both were sad, giving me no pleasure, but ending their suffering quickly. I used the farm tractor to bury both of them in the bottom, where the soil is deep enough to do the job right. That buck would have made a great trophy, if I collected such stuff.

    My brother has several unusual trophies on his wall, Scimitar-horned Ibex is the most unusual, nearly extinct in the wilds of Arabia, they mostly occur on Texan game ranches where you can buy a hunt for one. Not my hobby. He also killed a 750 pound feral hog with a handgun, they broke the hoist putting it into the PU truck, actually, so more than 750 as that was the rating on the broken hoist. Not my hobby!

  197. 197.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 27, 2018 at 3:03 pm

    @Chyron HR:

    Explain, without using the words “second” or “amendment”, why anyone on the face of the earth should care whether or not a hunter has the proper gun for killing a quail.

    The other quail hunters make fun of you if you’re not outfitted properly. It’s a peer abuse and bullying type of situation.

  198. 198.

    gratuitous

    February 27, 2018 at 3:10 pm

    @Anonymous patient: And I totally believe that, as well. Do you have a newsletter? I’d like to subscribe.

  199. 199.

    J R in WV

    February 27, 2018 at 3:22 pm

    @sukabi:

    @rikyrah: Pure speculation follows…..it would appear that the $26 million to Melania’s friend was a duplicate amount paid to another event planning organization. Melania has now cut ties with her “friend”. Either Drumpf is paying off another mistress, or he’s embezzeling inauguration funds, or both….

    Of course he could be making payments on his vig as well…

    Or it could be a painless way of enhancing Melenia’s ability to leave Trump without going through a formal divorce proceeding in order to access monies obligated by the pre-nup, monies Trump no longer has available to pay to Melania. Tres Embarrassing!!!

    But if Melania and her friend are to split the $26,000,000 that would keep both of them comfortable going forward in the absence of an economic catastrophe. Is it even illegal? Sounds shady, but legal. A party administrator can charge whatever they want, if the buyer is willing to pay, after all. $1200 for a gay wedding cake, OK…

  200. 200.

    J R in WV

    February 27, 2018 at 3:31 pm

    @gvg:

    Well said, for sure. There are at least 3 groups of gun-using people, four if you count LEOs. There is obviously some overlap. Hunters, competitive (or not so competitive) target shooters, and sefl-defense enthusiasts. I expect many target shooters may also hunt, although I don’t.

    Hunters and self-defense enthusiatists overlap a little too, but not as much as you might think. RWNJs are big into self-defense, not so much really hunting. There are guys who go to hunting camp to get away from the family and drink in the woods, some of those guys go hunting that way, drunk. The most dangerous LEO jobs are game wardens, almost all the violators they encounter are armed, except for guys fishing without a license.

  201. 201.

    Another Scott

    February 27, 2018 at 3:33 pm

    @burnspbesq and WaterGirl: IANAL, but it seems clear to me that even treating bits and papers “the same” needs to involve careful thought. If I’m working at my PC and doing things with information that is subject to subpoena or a search warrant, whether that computer is displaying that information from a local floppy disk or hard drive or networked hard drive is immaterial. It shouldn’t matter if the server is in the same room or the basement or on Jupiter. If the law says that the information must be produced if it were on paper then the same necessity to produce the information applies no matter where it is if I can work with it as if it were local.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the law doesn’t say that, but the law often lags technology.

    I don’t like the idea that people who are tech savvy and well-off enough to move their records off-shore can avoid the legal system in ways that people who keep paper records cannot. The rich already have enough advantages that normal people don’t.

    Yes, digital breadcrumbs and the like are an issue. But effectively giving off-shore information that-can-be-manipulated-as-if-it-were-local more protections than paper records is a bad idea. If I can work on a GoogleDocs spreadsheet in my home, it should be treated as if it were local no matter where the file is actually stored. Treating it otherwise, or requiring separate warrants, invites abuse. (There’s no technical reason preventing Google or Microsoft or Vlad’sHouseofTrolls from breaking up a file across hundreds or thousands of jurisdictions as they store it – a Planetary RAID drive – to try to prevent an effective response to a subpoena or search warrant…)

    My $0.02.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  202. 202.

    Russ

    February 27, 2018 at 3:33 pm

    @d58826: Red Flag law would allow FBI and other police to take a suspect’s guns if they suspect someone is intent on committing a shooting. Some states already have it. Even if they suspected the guy was about to go off they have no legal way……

  203. 203.

    WhatsMyNym

    February 27, 2018 at 3:33 pm

    @Chyron HR: It’s not how many guns you have, it’s what they can used for. Big difference between being shot by bird shot once, or 15 rounds from a semi-automatic rifle.

  204. 204.

    Sm*t Cl*de

    February 27, 2018 at 4:20 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The FBI tipline gets something like 1,500 or so tips a day.

    And one of the rightwing school-massacre responses is that you need more anonymous denunciations of your neighbors. The problem, apparently, lies in the US not yet being enough of a Nation of Narks.

  205. 205.

    Captain C

    February 27, 2018 at 4:58 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Only a little excessive for a problem which could be solved with a rod through the front wheel spokes.

    But having had to deal with NYC bikers as a pedestrian for over a decade, let me emphasize “only a little excessive.”

    (Note: I am all for the expansion of cycling as a regular means of transport, but NYC bikers are insane road and sidewalk hogs.)

  206. 206.

    burnspbesq

    February 27, 2018 at 5:30 pm

    @Captain C:

    NYC bikers are insane road and sidewalk hogs.)

    Been to Seattle lately?

  207. 207.

    Waynski

    February 27, 2018 at 5:32 pm

    @LAO: You’re right about NYC cyclists (well, some). My BIL, a Doc, and I got spat upon by one while walking over the Brooklyn Bridge b/c he had one foot in the bike lane. Plus cyclist was going waaaay too fast for that space. Jerks.

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