"Take the guns first. Go through due process second," President Trump says at a meeting with bipartisan lawmakers. "I like taking the guns early." https://t.co/lQkq3krCWs pic.twitter.com/0iPywBQ66b
— CNN (@CNN) February 28, 2018
The NRA warned us that if we elected Obama he would unlawfully go after all the guns and hey they were only off by only eight years or so. https://t.co/cCinJpkKMD
— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) February 28, 2018
Thoughts and prayers to the NRA executives who spent $21 million to get this guy elected president. https://t.co/WZ1PNnqIny
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) February 28, 2018
To recap: The president, who is a Republican, has taken a break from attacking law enforcement to adopt Democratic positions on gun control, and then proposes creating an unconstitutional police state that can seize weapons from private citizens without due process
— Matt Pearce ? (@mattdpearce) February 28, 2018
My favorite part of this video is Pence just nodding along in response to Trump. https://t.co/b1d5j2rWot
— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) February 28, 2018
Meetings like this just highlight how much of a cop-out it is for congressional Republicans to insist on having Trump’s support before passing any given piece of legislation.
— Haley Byrd (@byrdinator) February 28, 2018
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MEANWHILE, the rightwing grievance artists have a new #hashtagactivism grievance…
The shooter. The shooter bought a fucking gun at Dick's. Is every middle-aged white pundit in some fucking phantom zone of getting paid big money to be this completely dense in complete fucking perpetuity? pic.twitter.com/jqYMEnQ7W5
— Zeddy (@Zeddary) February 28, 2018
… needless to say, the snarkier responses to #boycottdicks may be NSFW.
How can @DICKS not sell guns to anyone under 21, but I have to build a cake for a gay couple against my religion?
Unconstitutional #BoycottDicks#AR15— chris #WeThePeople #LOCK THEM ALL UP (@chevyayers) February 28, 2018
This #BoycottDicks hashtag had me so excited! I was like, “Yassss, ladies!!! Do you know how much the world is going to change now?”
Then I saw what it was for. Fml. Bad mood all day now.
— Angela Nissel (@AngelaNissel) February 28, 2018
Villago Delenda Est
Frankly, taking the guns first without the slightest concern about these morons who love their toys more than their children is the right attitude to take.
Kay
David Fahrenthold
About time. You guys will have to Tweet this a lot when it comes out- they shun propublica for some reason.
Adam L Silverman
Given that this was the firearm equivalent of the bipartisan meeting he held about the DACA fix, no matter what he said was overtaken by events (OBE) as soon as he said it. Just like what he said about taking the heat for fixing DACA. No matter what any senator or congressperson proposes, he won’t support it. Given it’s now 5:40 PM, I guarantee he’s back in the resident and Wayne LaPierre is on the phone screaming at him.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Propublica does good work
Ruviana
@Kay: Serious question, who shuns Pro Publica? It’ll probably be a great story.
NotMax
Coming up shortly –
S. H. SANDERS: “He was obviously joking. Next question?”
MisterForkbeard
To be fair, Trump is only proposing this for people like Cruz AFTER the fact. In practice, this will be used to disarm brown people.
@Ruviana: The media pretty much shuns ProPublica. In general, they don’t ever talk about the stuff it uncovers.
Adam L Silverman
Betty Cracker
Klobuchar is cracking me up in that video up top. Trump is literally babbling about grabbing guns, the stuff of ammosexual nightmares, and Klobuchar is looking around the Republicans for a fellow sane person she can exchange a “WTF?” look with…
jl
Trump helping Remington with their bankruptcy problems? Or Trump just babbling something he’ll backpeddle later?
GOP pols sitting there nodding is a great cop-out, since relying on a consistent plan from Trump means they won’t ever have to do anything. They got the tax heist past, and that is pretty close to the End of History for them. The cop-out will work as long as national political affairs reporting remains brain-dead.
Bobby Thomson
Lysistrata’s milk shake brings all the boys to the yard and then ignores them. #boycottdicks
AkaDad
I’ve never been serviced by Dick’s, but I’m willing to try anything once.
JMG
@Betty Cracker: In the movie “I, Tonya” (highly recommended), there’s a pair of FBI agents who are the investigators of the attack on Nancy Kerrigan who have few lines, but a great bit where they continually avoid making eye contact with each other for fear of dissolving in helpless laughter at what goobers the conspirators are. I imagine all Democratic legislators in meetings with Trump must do the same thing.
Patricia Kayden
@Villago Delenda Est: Agreed. Trump has finally said something sensible. We all know that Republicans who control Congress won’t do a dang thing though. I’ll be pleasantly surprised if background checks get through the “Freedom Caucus”.
Mnemosyne
@Betty Cracker:
I’m assuming that all of the Republicans are studying the ground and desperately trying to pretend that Daddy isn’t drunk again.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
Once again, Cadet Bonespurs shows us all that he’ll turn on anybody at the slightest whim if he thinks it’ll even marginally help him somehow. What I can’t understand is why anybody, ever, would have signed on with this guy. How fucking hard is it to see that this guy has no regard for anybody else, ever? Why would they think he’s ever going to stick his neck out for them?
debbie
I still applaud Dick’s. Nice to see that somewhere in CorporateWorld, someone is horrified by the consequences of the products they’re selling and is willing to do something about it.
I have to figure out something I can buy there just to show my support.
Feathers
If you head over to the twitters, the #boycottdicks hashtag is good for a much needed laugh.
Anne Laurie
@Adam L Silverman: For the non-obsessives: “Gentry Breitbart” is Rick Wilson’s name for the National Review. Which is pretty accurate, IMO!
(Note: I do not necessarily endorse Rick Wilson, professional Republican, but I’m always willing to enjoy Repubs taking potshots at each other… )
? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?
@jl:
Or until they get spanked at the polls this November.
David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch
@Kay: Propublica isn’t a serious organization. They never once reported on Obama putting mustard on his hamburger. That’s why the political press ignores them.
debbie
@Adam L Silverman:
This is a very pleasing image. I hope LaPierre’s head explodes.
patroclus
I have some serious doubts as to whether any of Trump’s “ideas” would have prevented the Bowling Green Massacre.
? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?
@David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch:
Did they report on how Hillary killed Thomas Friedman’s taxi driver, Ben Ghazi, with a katana and how she mismanaged a perfectly legal private email server? If not then they are the most unserious news org evar.
debbie
@Anne Laurie:
Thanks. I assumed it was a scion of the unmissed Andrew Breitbart.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@JMG:
Great, great movie. Saw every part of the domestic violence cycle in it, and I left with a lot of sympathy for a deeply flawed young woman.
VOR
@Betty Cracker: Senator Klobuchar was a prosecutor before becoming a Senator so she knows a little something about the applicable legalities. Unlike the Orange One.
JPL
@Betty Cracker: That was my favorite part. She wouldn’t be a good poker player though.
Major Major Major Major
OT: My husband tweets, “Low expectations: whenever a right-winger compares a liberal to Hitler, I’m partially relieved that they agree Hitler is bad”
Heh.
Sm*t Cl*de
Trump is always pandering to his base.
Mnemosyne
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
In retrospect, it makes perfect sense that Kerrigan was the unwitting object of Harding’s rage, because they came from the same social class, but Kerrigan was able to “pass” for middle-class better than Harding did (plus Kerrigan had a stable home life growing up, unlike Harding). Harding wouldn’t have been nearly as enraged at a fellow skater who was genuinely upper-class.
Villago Delenda Est
@Anne Laurie: I just call them National Socialist Review and move on from there.
kindness
What I really would have like to have seen is a split screen TV where Wayne LaPierre is on the right, Trump is on the left and Trump announces he wants the government to just take peoples guns. On the split screen Wayne hears what Trump says, has a shocked grizzled look on his face, clutches his heart and topples over leaving an empty split screen.
Life would be good then.
randy khan
@Mnemosyne:
I haven’t seen the movie, but one of the positions it apparently takes is that Harding herself didn’t have anything to do with the attack. I wouldn’t be surprised either way, as it was evident from the start that her husband was a galoot.
hellslittlestangel
Oh, for fuck’s sake. Does anyone think the NRA cares about the meaningless drivel that comes out of Trump’s mouth? They know perfectly well that he’s already forgotten his statement about taking guns away. They support him because he’s full of shit. They’re evil, not stupid.
Corner Stone
@kindness:
TenguPhule
Yes.
TenguPhule
@Villago Delenda Est:
Not when Trump and Sessions are in charge of it.
Villago Delenda Est
@randy khan: No he wasn’t a galoot. He was a Gillooly!
Villago Delenda Est
@TenguPhule: Well, yes. Because Donald and the Keebler Elf would fuck it up.
trollhattan
So we learn that Dick’s Sporting Goods is EWE rickson’s Applebee’s salad bar. How very informative.
Mnemosyne
@randy khan:
I haven’t seen it either, but my understanding was that Kerrigan was attacked because Harding hated her and considered her a rival. Whether or not Harding was in on the plan doesn’t really change that, AFAIK.
TenguPhule
@Villago Delenda Est: Obviously it would only target those who fail the skin tone test.
Old Dan and Little Anne
Just had a sheriff speak at my school to tell staff and faculty what to do in an event of an active shooter. Good times. Run, hide, or fight. And here’s the best part. He had to rush out early. He received a report about a shooting at a middle school about 50 minutes south. Turned out to be a false alarm. This fucking country.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major: He’s a keeper.
retr2327
Okay, I actually am a lawyer, but this (seizing guns and such, and Due Process case law in general) is a bit removed from my practice area. But IIRC from my distant law school past, due process requirements may be, and frequently are, satisfied by action first, followed by court consideration within a reasonable time period thereafter. In other words, seizing the guns first and then having a hearing within a reasonable time period thereafter is fully consistent with due process requirements, given exigent circumstances.
So the reason Klobuchar is trying to suppress a giggle or two is that Trump has just revealed (once again) that he knows nothing about what he’s talking about . . .
Baud
@Old Dan and Little Anne:
Vote for Democrats if you survive.
Villago Delenda Est
@TenguPhule: This goes without saying. The NRA’s silence on the killing of Philando Castile tells you everything you need to know about skin tone and the 2nd Amendment.
Sab
@? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?: Did you hear that Ohio will no longer issue same day drivers licenses. They will mail it to you. They it’s to save money (?). My spouse thinks it’s for voter suppression.
? Martin
@Old Dan and Little Anne: I’ve been doing active shooter drills for nearly 15 years now. What’s most notable to me is how things have changed. It used to be ‘hide until the police arrive’. Now it’s very nearly ‘fuck the police – throw down’.
The training for little kids is unbearable though. They’re told to run around and throw things and make a scene. Not because it will save their lives, but because it makes them harder targets to hit, so the shooter will be forced to go slower buying time for the other kids. The kids have no idea they’re literally being trained to be meat shields.
? Martin
@Sab: Good way to make sure homeless people stay homeless and out of the voting booth.
TenguPhule
@? Martin:
Its still run first, hide second, fight last over here.
But I live in a state with really strict gun laws.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
On MSNBC, Sam Nurnberg, former aide to trump, says he’s sure Donnie Jr told his pappy all about the meeting with the Russians. He’s almost as goofy as Carter Page.
ruemara
I tire of government by lunatics, for lunatics.
Calouste
@Major Major Major Major: Right-wingers agree that Hitler is bad. They don’t agree that what Hitler did was bad.
beth
I listened to some of this in the car. I had to turn it off because I nearly drove off the road when Trump had Joe Manchin describe the Manchin-Toomey bill and then told Manchin it didn’t pass “because you didn’t have a President who supported it”. I don’t think I’ve ever hated anyone like I hate this asshole.
Corner Stone
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Nunberg is a hoot. An asshole, to be sure, but he loves to pull Trump’s chain.
Baud
@ruemara: C’mon, you know Clinton Fatigue® was much worse.
TenguPhule
O-M-F-G.
They’re coming from the White House!
TenguPhule
@Calouste:
Hitler was only bad in their eyes because he failed.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Corner Stone: and apparently enjoys that expensive attention from the Meuller team
B
About mailing licenses. They do this in my blue state too but explained it is because the new requirements so it can be used as federal id (such as getting on an airplane) require printing capabilities too expensive to supply at all locations.
Mnemosyne
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I’m sure that Junior told Daddy all about the meeting with the Russians. And I bet that Jar-Jar has told Daddy-in-Law all about his secret meetings with foreigners, too.
The problem is that they were supposed to be telling the US government about those meetings, not Daddy.
Major Major Major Major
@Calouste: I heard he was into universal healthcare and gun-grabbing and vegetarianism
Ella in New Mexico
@NotMax:@hellslittlestangel: and in this case Evil desperately needs Stupid to sign legislation
Old Dan and Little Anne
@? Martin: today it was run, hide, fight. And he told a cute example of how much it hurts a mother when a baby pulls her earing. So, you know, when you get close enough after dodging bullets, just tug on the psycho”s ear or something.
Mnemosyne
@Sab:
They do this in California. However, they give you a piece of paper which legally suffices as the DL until the other one is received in the mail. If voting staff refuse to accept that piece of paper as a valid ID, that will be a problem.
Cheryl Rofer
This is good. I suspect that Walmart and Dick’s saw what was happening to the companies that were cozy with the NRA. More will follow.
Mnemosyne
@Cheryl Rofer:
Gun nuts are claiming that public opinion is against companies doing this. I’m curious to know where these numbers are supposedly coming from, but not curious enough to click on Erick Erickson’s Twitter followers. They have a real pretty graph for it.
Cheryl Rofer
@Mnemosyne: Walmart is big enough that they’ve got their own polling. Plus all the data from their sales.
Mike in NC
@TenguPhule:
Stephen Miller, most likely.
Roger Moore
@Mnemosyne:
Of course California doesn’t have a voter ID requirement, so being slow at sending your driver’s license isn’t a big deal from a voting rights standpoint.
Cermet
@TenguPhule: First, run if you feel you can; hide but do lock the door if you have one; before one attacks, use every quick to reach object – especially solid ones- you can throw rapidly at the shooter with as much force as possible. Direct attack if that is your only chance and you are trapped.
Jay
@Mnemosyne:
64% of American households, don’t own a gun.
There’s more guns than people in the US.
3% of American’s however, own over half the guns in the US.
Roger Moore
@Mike in NC:
Are you sure it wasn’t John Barron?
Steeplejack
@TenguPhule:
Link or source?
trollhattan
@Mike in NC:
There’s a Nobel for Mooslim and dark people kicking? Who knew?
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: Colorado also does this, or at least did… 17 *cough* years ago. I don’t think it’s that rare, but obviously it can be used for voter suppression. A little roundabout though.
Cheryl Rofer
Uncle Omar
As for Kruse’s “thoughts and prayers” to the NRA for giving Trump’s campaign $21 million…it wasn’t their money, it came from Putin.
different-church-lady
@? Martin:
In other words, act no differently than they usually do?
TenguPhule
@Steeplejack: Someone forged Nobel Peace Prize nomination for Trump — twice
Home news via the FYNYT.
p.a.
Wherein I write my own script:
Possum approaches podium for daily briefing. “Look, we all know he’s nuckin’ futs…”
Ladyraxterinok
@debbie: PZ Meyers at his blog pharyngula claims Dicks dropped these after an earlier shooting then quietly started selling them again after media attention went on to a new story.
Roger Moore
@Cheryl Rofer:
I guess it’s no longer an exaggeration when we call them gun worshipers. They are beyond parody.
JPL
@Cheryl Rofer: Although I’d prefer more, that is definitely good news. I still won’t shop there.
PaulWartenberg
Boycott Dick’s?
But that’s gonna piss off Nightwing something fierce.
…
You know, Dick Grayson… the first Robin…
Sigh. Try this: https://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/03/03/competing-buttocks-dick-grayson/
Doug R
@B:
Our province has a fancy printed license as well, you get your yellow full size page receipt until it shows up. Any cop that pulls you over gives you the stank eye, but they don’t really have a choice.
Baud
@Cheryl Rofer:
I don’t even want to know how they consummate that marriage.
randy khan
@Villago Delenda Est:
Six of one, a half dozen of the other.
@Mnemosyne:
Whether or not she was in on the attack doesn’t change her feelings or whether those feelings were unreasonable, but it does change her culpability.
Cheryl Rofer
Jay
@Cheryl Rofer:
“World Peace and Unification Sanctuary in Newfoundland believes the AR-15 symbolizes the “rod of iron” in the biblical book of Revelation.
The Rev. Sean Moon, who leads the church, prayed for “a kingdom of peace police and peace militia where the citizens, through the right given to them by almighty God to keep and bear arms, will be able to protect one another and protect human flourishing.”
NEWFOUNDLAND, Pa. — Hundreds of crown-wearing worshipers clutching AR-15 rifles drank holy wine and exchanged or renewed wedding vows in a commitment ceremony at a Pennsylvania church on Wednesday, prompting a nearby school to cancel classes. With state police and a smattering of protesters standing watch outside the church, brides clad in white and grooms in dark suits brought dozens of unloaded AR-15s into World Peace and Unification Sanctuary for a religious event that doubled as an advertisement for the Second Amendment.
World Peace and Unification Sanctuary in Newfoundland believes the AR-15 symbolizes the “rod of iron” in the biblical book of Revelation.
The Rev. Sean Moon, who leads the church, prayed for “a kingdom of peace police and peace militia where the citizens, through the right given to them by almighty God to keep and bear arms, will be able to protect one another and protect human flourishing.”
Moon is the son of the late Rev. Sun Myung Moon, a self-proclaimed messiah who founded the Unification Church, which critics regard as a cult. The younger Moon’s congregation is a breakaway faction of the Unification Church, which had distanced itself from Wednesday’s event.”
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/hundreds-of-worshipers-gather-at-church-hosting-ceremony-featuring-ar-15s/
Steeplejack
Ari Melber is dragging Trump with video snippets of Trump bloviating on national security:
09.06.16: “We can’t have someone in the Oval Office who doesn’t understand the meaning of the word confidential or classified.”
07.27.16: ” I don’t think it’s safe to have Hillary Clinton be briefed on national security, because the word will get out.”
09.07.16: “One of the first things we must do is to enforce all classification rules.”
The gypsy Twitter curse extends to Trump’s real-time statements. Who knew?
I still maintain that the defining image of the Trump era will be a shot of him saying, “You knew I was a snake when you took me in.”
PaulWartenberg
@TenguPhule:
trump wants a Nobel Peace Prize at the same time he wants to start wars with North Korea and Iran.
the Nobel people should award it to Obama again just to piss trump off.
Doug R
@Cheryl Rofer: What part of “they shall beat their swords into plowshares” and “blessed are the peacemakers” don’t they understand?
The Ancient Randonneur
The Guardian: Rate of gun injuries drops 20% during NRA conventions, study finds
No could have predicted …
SiubhanDuinne
“Take the guns first. Leave the cannoli.”
Doug R
@Ladyraxterinok:
Dick’s claims they stopped, but now they will stop at their 34 Field & Stream stores as well.
TenguPhule
@Baud:
Automatically.
Steeplejack
@TenguPhule:
See, that wasn’t so hard. Would it kill you to do it when you’re rushing in with the hot breaking news? Of course everyone believes you use only the most reliable sources, but some people might want to follow up for more detail.
TenguPhule
@Steeplejack: FYWP was acting up for me the first go around and locked me out of an edit.
Roger Moore
@PaulWartenberg:
Giving it to the Clinton Foundation would piss him off even more.
Omnes Omnibus
@Doug R: Obligatory.
Baud
@Steeplejack:
He’s not that honest.
Baud
@Roger Moore: Likey.
TenguPhule
@Baud:
Not the Viper, not the viper, you’re the viper!
TenguPhule
@Doug R:
They think peacemakers are Colt 45s.
Jackie
My dearly beloved and adored Dad/Gpa/Great-Gpa passed away early Sunday morning at the young age of 99 1/2 yrs. His greatest wish was to out last/out live Trump. I give Dad 100% credit for all the hell Trump’s gone through the past 48+ hrs continuing.
Dad so expected to see the 1st woman president (and a Clinton to boot!) and was thrilled to witness our 1st African-American President.
I know full well Dad’s pushing to make Trump’s life as miserable as possible from “up above.” ?????
Eric S.
@Sab: Illinois is mailing driver’s licenses too. It was explained to me that to create DL that meet Real ID requirements they moved printing to a central location.
Omnes Omnibus
@Jackie: My condolences.
Major Major Major Major
@Jay: moonies gonna moonie.
Baud
@Jackie:
I hope you dad gets to escort Trump to hell one day.
Bill
@Old Dan and Little Anne: That’s not Dan that used to run bicycle tours, is it?
Jay
@Major Major Major Major:
All ammosexuals are cult members.
Sab
@Mnemosyne: That is what they are going to do in Ohio. Weird thing is you don’t need an ID to vote absentee.
Steeplejack
@SiubhanDuinne:
Look at Godfather-viewing hipster you!
ETA: You really need to watch Godfather 2. It’s even better.
WereBear
@Jackie: I’m sorry. Sounds like a wonderful guy.
Lapassionara
@Steeplejack: Saw that. Someone should do this every night. It was great, and I am sure there are even more clips. Seriously, this was in his telling the worst thing anyone could do to the US of A. “Lock him up!”
Jackie
@Baud: Dad will do that with PLEASURE ??
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
Which reminds me: The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957), which was the subject of some discussion here last week, is coming on TCM in about 20 minutes.
Bill
@Cheryl Rofer: I put a note about this in a thread the other night. The kids at the nearby school were move to the North school for the day.
rikyrah
@Jackie:
Sorry for your loss ??
Elizabelle
@Jackie: What a cool guy. My condolences. A life well lived.
Steeplejack
@Jackie:
Sorry for your loss.
Doug R
@Steeplejack:
Our cable company for some bizarre reason only has TCM in standard definition. Often the Academy frame (1:33/1) doesn’t look too bad with the side bars, but widescreen usually ends up inside a large black frame. And often looking like you’re watching through cheesecloth.
Mnemosyne
@Jackie:
He sounds like a great guy who had a great life. I’m sure you’re all going to miss him very much.
Jackie
@WereBear: He was more than wonderful. He was our rock. Our anchor. I’m named after him. His oldest grandson’s (my son) middle name is Houston – Our last name. His oldest great-grandson is Jaxon. He was so adored and respected. Active in Democratic politics to the end.
Roger Moore
@TenguPhule:
Or the ICBM formerly known as MX.
Bill
@Jay: It gets better- one of the principles of the church, (not sure if it is Moon) owns the Mega-gun store nearby. The church asked that people ‘who were not able to legally purchase a Rod Of Iron’ would be so good as to purchase instead a gift certificate for $700 from that gun store, ‘to show their commitment’. So it’s totally not about the money.
geg6
Wait a minute, folks. WTF is Dense talking about here with that Adam Lanza bullshit? The mom who had amassed a giant arsenal and taken her troubled kid shooting with her because she thought it was therapeutic was failed by law enforcement not taking away her kid’s guns, which she bought? What????
Bill
@Doug R: I saw yesterday that 30 round AR magazines were 25% off at Field&Stream
debbie
Ladyraxterinok:
My understanding is that Dick’s stopped selling them in their stores, but kept selling them online. Now, they won’t even do that.
JPL
@Jackie: No matter how old or young it pains to lose someone. In this case though I might say you go dad and haunt the orange asshole from where ever you are. .
Steeplejack
@Doug R:
I feel your pain. You might occasionally check to see if your system has added the HD channel. On my system (Cox Cable in NoVA), the HD TCM channel just showed up one day with no fanfare at all.
The only other consolation I can offer is that most TVs are so large now that even a letterboxed image is bigger than what you would have seen on your old 16" or 20" TV years ago. Cold comfort, I know.
lollipopguild
@Doug R: All of it Katie.
debbie
@geg6:
What, you expected him to actually know something?
Jackie
@JPL: Oh, I’m KNOW he’s doing that. He never understood how “those idiots” could have voted Trump into office. He’s a life long Democrat and raised his daughters and grandchildren “properly “ ??
Shell
“Sentence first, verdict afterwards,” said the Red Queen.
Tenar Arha
@Cheryl Rofer: I still can’t stop thinking about this clip from Beneath the Planet of the Apes ever since I saw these photos this afternoon.
Elizabelle
Settling in to watch Bridge
OverOn the River Kwai. Thanks for the head’s up. Never saw it. 1957. Won 7 out of 8 Oscar nominations, including Best Picture.debbie
@Elizabelle:
You ought to follow that up with Big Rat.
Doug R
@Tenar Arha:
404 not found. Maybe it’s supposed to be magazine, not clip?
Steeplejack
@Tenar Arha:
Link fixed: “Bomb Worship.”
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Jackie: Your dad sounds awesome. RIP
Peale
@Cheryl Rofer: what am I missing? Before we had marriage, us gays used to have commitment ceremonies, too. Are they marrying their guns?
Mike in NC
@debbie: “King Rat”, I think. There is a large sub-genre of POW movies. Many other good ones, like “Stalag 17”.
Jackie
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): He was awesome. Even his Republican associates/relatives respected and acknowledged his opinions. I’m just so lucky to have had him for 62 yrs. His great-grandchildren range from 9 to 41/2. They will have memories – even if just a little. Dad and I and my son are lucky we inherited very early memory recall. We can recall “snapshots” and brief conversations at about age one ?
debbie
@Mike in NC:
Arghh, of course. Thanks.
Vhh
From the Godfather: “Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.”
Fair Economist
@Jackie: Condolences for your loss, but happy your dad had such a long life and retaining his faculties so long too.
Fair Economist
@Jackie:
I’m so envious. My dad used to tell me stories of one of his grandfathers who he called “Big” and how much he loved him. After my father died when I was visiting his grave I found out “Big” had died before my father turned three. =:-0 I never found out what the story there was – I assume my father had very early recall (my first memories are from 3, and my first clear ones from when I was almost 4), but I’m not sure.
BluegirlFromWyo
@Jackie: I’m sorry for your loss. He sounds like an exceptional man.
Amir Khalid
@Mike in NC:
Never saw King Rat the movie, but I did read the book.
Gretchen
A gunfondler on my Facebook feed was insisting it was “unconstitutional” for Delta to remove NRA discounts. I pointed out that there is no constitutional right to discount airline tickets. He huffed back that freedom of speech/something that Avis is still giving discounts to ACLU members. I pointed out that all he had to do was join the ACLU to get the discount- it’s available to everyone. I haven’t heard back. They’re not sending their best.
Corner Stone
@Amir Khalid: That was a very disturbing book.
Rob Lll
@Jackie:
He sounds amazing. Condolences to you and your family.
Cheryl Rofer
@Peale: That is what the photos look like to me.
BruceFromOhio
This transcends elegance and beauty into something really special and powerful for which I do not have a name.
Bobby Thomson
@TenguPhule: signed,
Epstein’s MotherJohn Miller.J R in WV
@Cheryl Rofer:
Holy shit~!!! That’s the strangest “religious ritual” I’ve seen photos of ever. Since throwing babies into Baal’s Furnace! Those people are – way beyond strange. Past odd, into the other universe.
Wow! I can’t really put into speech my feelings about that. Perhaps needed a fully armed Raptor?
Tenar Arha
@Doug R: (check here at this post —>>
@Steeplejack: aww thanks!
fuckwit
nah. leave the guns. take the cannoli.
retr2327
@retr2327: So now I’m in the odd position of replying to my own post, because I was curious as to what the acceptable Due Process parameters would be with respect to seizing guns IF there was good reason to believe that the owner might engage in a shooting. So I found this from the US SCT decision in Fuentes (407 US 67, 1972):
“There are “extraordinary situations” that justify postponing notice and opportunity for a hearing. . . . These situations, however, must be truly unusual. Only in a few limited situations has this Court allowed outright seizure without opportunity for a prior hearing. First, in each case, the seizure has been directly necessary to secure an important governmental or general public interest. Second, there has been a special need for very prompt action. Third, the State has kept strict control over its monopoly of legitimate force: the person initiating the seizure has been a government official responsible for determining, under the standards of a narrowly drawn statute, that it was necessary and justified in the particular instance. Thus, the Court has allowed summary seizure of property to collect the internal revenue of the United States, to meet the needs of a national war effort, to protect against the economic disaster of a bank failure, and to protect the public from misbranded drugs and contaminated food.” (citation and footnotes omitted).
Judged against that standard, it seems pretty clear that it would be Constitutionally permissible to seize the guns of someone without a prior hearing if there was a proper showing of a threat of imminent harm.
The reason I find this interesting is that the NRA seems to have managed to convince everyone (including liberals and gun control advocates) that the very idea of seizing the guns of someone who has been credibly identified as a possible school shooter is outrageously unconstitutional, and that only a moron like Trump would even think of it. Well, he certainly is a moron (and an abuser, a crook, etc.), but that doesn’t mean that he’s wrong in this instance.
afanasia
@Villago Delenda Est:
“…the Irish, who built, and filled, America’s prisons…”
From a dimly remembered 30 Rock episode