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Tom already discussed this, but Nunberg was apparently not satisfied with his two CNN interviews or he scored another 8-ball because he was just on MSNBC with Ari Melber. He still batshit crazy and defiant, although occasionally mewling that it is not fair.

Y’all don’t quote me on this, but I don’t think this movie is going to end well for Nunberg. I don’t see him sanding a boat on a Mexican beach with Morgan Freeman right before the credits roll.

On the other hand, he may be immortalized in both law schools and the urban dictionary with the phrase “to pull a Nunberg.”

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  4. 4.

    Yutsano

    @Yarrow: It’s gonna be a wee bit difficult for him to avoid that after today’s shenanigans. Unless he’s going for insanity.

  5. 5.

    jacy

    Looks like they’re going to do the whole hour straight through with no commercial breaks. This is crazy.

  7. 7.

    Yarrow

    @LAO: He also said he thinks his lawyer may have dropped him and his dad thinks it’s a bad idea that he’s doing this. He’s out of his mind. All the other people are explaining how it all works. He seems not to understand it. It’s amazing. Watch it if you can.

    He’s still protecting Roger Stone. What in the world does Roger Stone have on him?

    Again, “They’re not going to send me to jail.” Oh, he just said if Mueller sends him to jail he’ll laugh about it and make a bigger spectacle than this.

  8. 8.

    Corner Stone

    Nunberg started laughing when Barbara McQuade said, comply, go to a judge to narrow request or go to jail.

  11. 11.

    Corner Stone

    @Yarrow:

    Oh, he just said if Mueller sends him to jail he’ll laugh about it and make a bigger spectacle than this.

    And that will provoke a concert of the tiniest violin players in all the land playing a tune, just for him.

  14. 14.

    burnspbesq

    He just said he’s not going to jail.

    The only way he doesn’t go to jail is if he complies with the subpoena. Is he now admitting that his earlier defiant bullshit was bullshit, or does he completely misunderstand the process?

  16. 16.

    Corner Stone

    I think Nunberg was high as a kite earlier and it is now wearing off. He will fall into a fetal position and start crying before this hour ends.

  18. 18.

    Yarrow

    This is like if you’ve ever watched a couple of cops talk down a person who is out of their mind. They’re all using their calm voices and explaining things to him very patiently. He’s just nuts.

  19. 19.

    Fair Economist

    If 80 hours sorting emails is too much work, I’m sure Mueller will be happy to provide him a quiet undisturbed place to do it for, oh, 2 years or so.

  20. 20.

    piratedan

    we have to remember, we’re following this because we’re all political junkies, a good many of our fellow citizens are out there working multiple jobs all so they can enjoy the next Dancing With the Stars and the Walking Dead uninterrupted. They have no fucking idea on what is going on and what this all means. While we’re here flummoxed about the audacity (and stupidity) of these treasonous folks and the willingness of an entire political party to turn our country into their own fiefdom, there’s a whole boatload of folks that either 1) do not want to know and 2) are happy with what’s transpired…

    while we’re finding out that our worst fears are being confirmed, we still have to wait and see if the rule of law still has any meaning in these here United States and if these people will pay the price for violating its laws.

  21. 21.

    MJS

    At this point I think this is just a half-assed attempt at some kind of diminished capacity defense. He’ll be in some inpatient mental health facility by tomorrow.

  25. 25.

    Fair Economist

    @Corner Stone:

    I think Nunberg was high as a kite earlier and it is now wearing off.

    In all seriousness, overconfidence + excessive talking + belligerency + lack of contact with reality = a lot like stimulant abuse.

  29. 29.

    Roger Moore

    @Yarrow:

    He just said he’s not going to jail.

    He knows who he needs to talk to if he wants to stay out of the big house.

  30. 30.

    Corner Stone

    @piratedan:

    there’s a whole boatload of folks that either 1) do not want to know and 2) are happy with what’s transpired…

    Why you harsh my mellow?

  31. 31.

    Lapassionara

    @Baud: He is supposedly a member of the NY bar. He must know that he can just send his hard drive over to the SCO.

    This was nuts.

  33. 33.

    Corner Stone

    @Jeffro: I’m not sure you can actually sit through it, honestly. Do you have alcohol or other medicinals in the house? You will need them.

  34. 34.

    patrick II

    >@Yarrow:

    He’s still protecting Roger Stone. What in the world does Roger Stone have on him?

    @

    If Nunberg is forced to give Mueller all of Stone’s emails they would show every rtfck Nunberg and Stone have done for the last three years. Russia would be the worst, but I would bet far from the only illegal activity by Roger Stone. It might open the door to the whole republican rtfcking culture.

  36. 36.

    piratedan

    @Corner Stone: sorry CS, yes, Sam is bugfuck nuts and is it awesome for him to reveal what a bunch of evil bastards are running the country…. yes, yes it is…

    still, just re-watched All The President’s Men again last night and that quote that mentions how nearly half of the country didn’t know what Watergate was or what it meant still rings true somehow…

  38. 38.

    Yarrow

    @patrick II: But he also said that he thinks Mueller already has Roger Stone’s emails. It’s bizarre.

    Now someone on the panel said law professors were suggesting it could be a PR stunt and that he’s intending to comply with the subpoena.

  42. 42.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Yarrow:

    he also said that he thinks Mueller already has Roger Stone’s emails.

    If I understand Adam correctly, Mueller almost certainly already does have Roger Stone’s emails. He does not have them in a context that can be presented as evidence in court.

  43. 43.

    jacy

    @Quinerly:

    I would buy that he was drunk. I’ve known some very cogent drunks. They just get chatty and start repeating things emphatically, but they don’t sound debilitated. That’s what he sounded like to me.

  44. 44.

    Mary G

    Well, if Twitler thinks the courts have been mean to him so far, just wait until the judge drops the hammer on this moron. Let’s see how long it takes him to come up with the goods.

  45. 45.

    hellslittlestangel

    It takes a lot of nerve for a man with more than one chin to call someone else — Sarah Huckabee Sanders in this case — a “fat slob.”

  46. 46.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Yarrow: @LAO: @Yutsano: I would not be surprised if when he gets home tonight Bob Mueller isn’t sitting on his sofa drinking a cup of tea, while FBI agents are tossing his place and carting out computers, tablets, and boxes of papers.

  49. 49.

    Bobby Thomson

    @Fair Economist: self selection of emails is not best practices anyway. He should have a lawyer and/or vendor doing this. Spoliation in these circumstances is a guaranteed indictment.

  50. 50.

    Ruckus

    @Yarrow:
    I once spent 55 minutes as a mental health counselor trying to do just that, talk calmly to a guy while the entire time thinking “does the door behind me open in or out and can I get there before him?” You want to be calm, so as not to make it worse but everything in your mind says end this now and get the fuck out. Talking drunks into doing/not doing something is easy compared to actual crazy people.

  51. 51.

    Jay

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    He probably does have them in a context that can be presented in Court. Meuller’s running 2 investigations, a Criminal one, and a Counter Intelligence one.

  52. 52.

    LAO

    @Adam L Silverman: tomorrow at 6 am, technically he hasn’t failed to comply with the subpoena, yet..

    PS. Shake shack just began delivering. I’m currently enjoying a black and white shake. I figured I deserved it.

  53. 53.

    zhena gogolia

    I have been working all day and unable to even start to follow this story. Mebbe I’ll just turn on Point Break tonight on the Sundance channel and pretend it isn’t happening.

  55. 55.

    JPL

    @LAO: Maybe that was his intent. A planned meltdown, but you would probably not know about things like that.

  57. 57.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    MEMO

    To: SVR
    From: Vlad

    Make sure Nunberg accidentally walks into a jet engine.

    CC: GRU

  58. 58.

    Mnemosyne

    @Fair Economist:

    In all seriousness, overconfidence + excessive talking + belligerency + lack of contact with reality = a lot like stimulant abuse.

    Also possible warning signs of a psychotic break.

  61. 61.

    Yarrow

    @Adam L Silverman: Ari Melber said when they came back from commercial beak that after the segment, but still on the record, Nunberg asked him, “What do you think I should do?”

    The guy is out of his mind. If Mueller is sitting on his sofa drinking tea while FBI agents are carting out his communications in boxes, I wouldn’t be surprised if he runs around the neighborhood with his underwear on his head squawking like a chicken and screaming, “It’s not fair! It’s not fair!”

  66. 66.

    Amir Khalid

    I find myself thinking of those old gangster movies where Jimmy Cagney realises the cops have him cornered and delivers an epic meltdown.

  74. 74.

    Adam L Silverman

    @LAO: Given that Mueller now has to be concerned with destruction of evidence, could he seek a subpoena to do the entry and search immediately? Even if he can’t arrest him till tomorrow?

  79. 79.

    Sloane Ranger

    @Yarrow: What does he gain from pulling a stunt like that? As far as I can see he’s pissing off everybody. The White House can’t be happy with some of his remarks and Mueller can’t be happy with this public display even if he complies at the end of the day.

    I don’t see a strategy here.

  80. 80.

    Cheryl Rofer

  82. 82.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Yarrow:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he runs around the neighborhood with his underwear on his head squawking like a chicken and screaming, “It’s not fair! It’s not fair!”

    A warning would be nice next time! Mmmkay?

  84. 84.

    geg6

    That was some stunning tv. Ari Melber tried to do an intervention, along with (I think) a couple former federal prosecutors, and all the explanations they had, no matter how slowly and calmly presented, did not seem to convince Nunberg to save his own skin or stop complaining about how inconvenient this all is for him. It’s all so unfair! Damn, that was so nuts. I’m pretty gobsmacked.

  85. 85.

    jacy

    Erin Burnett is no Ari Melber. She’s going to go confrontational. I don’t know that that’s a wise idea…..

  88. 88.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?

    @Yarrow:
    Inb4 Nunberg tries to assassinate Mueller in the most inept and asinine way possible and gets himself killed.

  89. 89.

    ruemara

    Kenzidor thinks this is a performance. I think he’s just nuts. Both could be true. It could be to make anything coming from his mouth be nearly inadmissible due to seeming insanity.

    @Amir Khalid: No, it’s illegal. No one will stop him.

  92. 92.

    Corner Stone

    I Hope CNN has a bucket and a mop nearby because he is full on jello meltdown mode. Jeebus Cracker, Betty’s less well known gator hunting cousin.

  94. 94.

    jl

    Is this what Watergate would have been like if Haldeman put on a nervous breakdown on national TV and started blabbing incoherently?

  104. 104.

    Baud

    He says he got the subpoena on Friday and production was due today. Does that seem right?

  105. 105.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Amir Khalid: Answer: No, but enforcement is dependent on the Executive Branch, so nothing’s likely to happen. At least, not until the next Administration.

  106. 106.

    JPL

    It’s beginning to sound like he didn’t finish his homework, and now is making excuses why.

  110. 110.

    The Pale ScotC

    Charlie Sheen, “I’m gonna get some blow and really cut loose”

    Nunsberg, “hold my beer”

  111. 111.

    patrick II

    @Lyrebird:

    Spencer Windes
    ‏

    @spencerwindes
    38m38 minutes ago
    More
    Replying to @Popehat
    Rub their noses on the screen. It helps.

  115. 115.

    Roger Moore

    @? Martin:

    It’s astonishing that Keanu ever got a speaking role after that line.

    As long as the movies keep making money, he’ll keep landing roles.

  117. 117.

    Corner Stone

    @Yarrow: No, he’s some schnook. He isn’t fooling anyone. Mueller now has to put up or shut up. So I guess we’ll see.

  118. 118.

    Gravenstone

    Haven’t done a drive by of any of Nunberg’s antics on TV, but it sounds from everything related here that he’s rapidly losing it. Would not shock me at all to learn he tried to off himself tonight after this whirlwind media circus.

  119. 119.

    Corner Stone

    @Ryan:

    Or perhaps, to pull a Mueller

    Damn. That’s almost as bad as getting your Cromwells crossed.

  120. 120.

    ? Martin

    @Amir Khalid: No. Legally, the seal implies an endorsement by the federal government. You cannot manufacture something with the seal without express permission.

    I got to see some of this in action when we had President Obama for an event. We could not use the seal for anything, and while we could use his likeness on some things, we couldn’t use his title as it would have been considered an endorsement of the federal government.

    It’s utterly illegal.

  121. 121.

    Adam L Silverman

    @jacy: Have we seen a TV host murdered live on air committed with whatever is at hand before? Because this guy is half a dozen burgers, 3 hot dogs, a bucket of fried chicken, 2 lbs of potato salad, 4 bags of chips, one disgusting jell-o salad someone brought (and you know who you are), a pecan pie, a dozen cookies, a tray of brownies, 4 gallons of sweet tea, and some ants short of a picnic! Who knows what happens if he completely snaps.

  122. 122.

    Corner Stone

    Man he is tugging hard off whatever is in that black coffee mug. There can not be anything left in it by now.

  123. 123.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Amir Khalid: No, it is illegal under Federal law. The company they commissioned to make the tee markers can find itself in significant criminal jeopardy and whoever placed the order and came up with the idea at the Trump Organization is in serious trouble as well.

  124. 124.

    dmsilev

    Christ. Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue attend a conference away from most news feeds.

  125. 125.

    Corner Stone

    @Gravenstone:

    Would not shock me at all to learn he tried to off himself tonight after this whirlwind media circus.

    By shooting himself in the back of the head four times while dropping a toaster into his bathtub?

  126. 126.

    jacy

    Okay, he’s just babbling now. He’s going off on as many tangents as Trump. He’s in some kind of chemically altered state, and he’s wearing down.

  127. 127.

    Yarrow

    He’s totally hedging now. “I’ll give them my email password.” “I’m not going to answer questions in front of a grand jury if they do not explain why I have to go in there.”

  132. 132.

    Adam L Silverman

    @? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?: It was the mustache. The mustache was possessed. Apparently he was very soft spoken, gentle, empathetic, and forgiving until he grew the mustache. Then he decided instead of becoming a social worker he wanted to be the authoritarian ruler of 1/3 of Europe and all of Central and North Asia.

  133. 133.

    rikyrah

    The Associated Press
    ‏Verified account @AP

    EPA Chief Pruitt’s aide given permission to work for private clients on the side – but their identities will be kept secret.

  134. 134.

    PaulWartenberg

    My parents taught me a handful of valuable lessons while growing up.

    The one they hammered repeatedly into my teenage skull was this:

    If the cops pull me over for ANYTHING, just KEEP MY DAMN MOUTH SHUT.

    If Nunberg thinks he can bluff Mueller into letting him walk, he’s definitely high on something.

  136. 136.

    Brachiator

    @rikyrah:

    EPA Chief Pruitt’s aide given permission to work for private clients on the side – but their identities will be kept secret.

    What? These crooks are barely pretending now. They might as well hang a sign in front of the White House, saying

    The Grift Starts Here

  140. 140.

    Corner Stone

    I think someone should have thrown the white towel in the ring on this long ago. CNN should close out this interview.

  152. 152.

    trollhattan

    @rikyrah:
    No wonder he’s been such a secrecy buff since heading EPA. The guards, the soundproof booth, the secure telephones…the only reason he’s not the most over-the-top cartoonish administration member is because of who he’s working with as he dishes off huge swaths of our land to the highest bidder.

  155. 155.

    Adam L Silverman

    We have further developments in the Russian escort story:

  157. 157.

    jacy

    I have a feeling that I’m going to regret having spent the last 6 hours listening to Sam Nunberg — like going on a psychic bender and waking up with a horrifying hangover.

  158. 158.

    rikyrah

    ABC News
    ✔
    @ABC

    JUST IN: Sen. Thad Cochran to retire from the Senate on April 1, 2018, due to health challenges: “My hope is by making this announcement now, a smooth transition can be ensured.”
    3:43 PM – Mar 5, 2018

  159. 159.

    jl

    @rikyrah: I heard that crumbum hack on the radio this morning, and noted how interesting it was that he finally found his spine just right now. I wondered why.

  160. 160.

    MCA1

    @Adam L Silverman: That’s a great image. I’ve been hopeful for some time that the way Mueller’s been playing this whole investigation – a shadowy figure who’s never seen in public, watertight and shipshape, without tipping any future moves – has the people who are the subjects of his scrutiny thinking of him as being the antipode of Kayser Soze. Nunberg’s off the rails behavior is like the old guy on the boat screaming his name in the movie, like he knows Mueller’s on his way to that very living room cup of tea.

  161. 161.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Gravenstone: Actually, yeah. This is a reasonable interpretation of “I’m not going to jail.”

    Better hope Mueller gets his warrants for a smash’n grab of Nunberg’s evidence ASAP, because I get the feeling he’s about to compound today’s bad decisions with several other ones.

  162. 162.

    rikyrah

    TMZ Sports
    ‏Verified account @TMZ_Sports

    ESPN’s Chris Berman Left ‘Racially Disparaging’ Voicemail for Jemele Hill, Lawsuit Claims

  165. 165.

    patrick II

    Nunberg is projecting . He has been immersed in a culture that practices ruthless hierarchical power and those beneath them are crushed and beneath contempt. Now the tables are turned and he expects to be treated the same way. He is panicked.

  167. 167.

    rikyrah

    Sam Baker
    ‏Verified account @sam_baker

    The Belarusian “sex coach” offering dirt on the president from a jail cell in Thailand ended up not even being the craziest thing that happened today.
    12:53 PM – 5 Mar 2018

  169. 169.

    Adam L Silverman

    Burnett just accused him of being drunk. Claims she smells alcohol on his breath. He claims he’s not had a drink. That he’s not on anything other than prescribed meds.

  170. 170.

    MisterForkbeard

    @rikyrah: Yay! More seats for the Republicans to defend. They’ll probably keep this one: Mississippi had a pretty strong Democratic legacy, but state-wide they’ve been pure Republican for awhile.

    We probably won’t get an Alabama level of screwup out of the Republicans on this one, so it’d be an uphill battle.

    @Adam L Silverman: This will end well.

    @Rp: A new low? That takes some serious effort. The only thing I saw was him tweeting about how Mueller’s investigation might uncover government-wide corruption and so forth, with a heavy implication that Dems are just as bad as Republicans.

  171. 171.

    MomSense

    She smells alcohol on his breath. He says no. She asks if he has had anything else and he said just his meds. Wow.

  172. 172.

    different-church-lady

    @Rp:

    Anyone following Greenwald today? He’s sunk to a new low.

    In other words, it’s Monday?

  173. 173.

    No Drought No More

    Washington Post: “..Trump has been asking people close to him whether they think Kushner or his company has done anything wrong, according to a senior administration official..”.

    Trump stiffs yet another private contractor prior to his portending Perjury Trap* of a interview with Mueller Inc:

    “Jared who? My son-in-law? I thought his name was Gerard… [pause]… Gave him a few jobs to do around here, but it didn’t work out.. [long, long pause].. What was the question again?”.

    * (“if you can’t afford to tell the truth, that’s exactly what it is”).

  175. 175.

    jacy

    Boom — She just accused him of being drunk. Said she can smell alcohol on his breath.

    She seems tired of this…..

  178. 178.

    Cacti

    O/T but had to share.

    Some clever internet stoners have made it possible to include Jeff Sessions with your marijuana sessions.

    General Jeff’s “Old Rebel” Session Papers     are now available for sale online. The packet features Jeff’s mug with a doobie hanging from his mouth, and “Don’t Beauregard that joint my friend!” written beneath.

  181. 181.

    Schlemazel

    @jl:
    Perhaps he actually believes in a Christian God & is now fearful of having to meet Him?

  182. 182.

    Steeplejack

    Holy shnikeys! Erin Burnett just told Nunberg that she had smelled alcohol on his breath. He said, “I’ve not had a drink.”

    This really is like the cable pundit show version of the O.J. Bronco chase. Someone on MSNBC said that earlier; can’t remember who.

  184. 184.

    Fair Economist

    @Adam L Silverman:

    He claims he’s not had a drink. That he’s not on anything other than prescribed meds.

    He must have an interesting doctor. Maybe the same one who gave Trump a medical checkup?

  185. 185.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop cooking crystal meth.

  187. 187.

    Viva BrisVegas

    @Adam L Silverman:

    No, it is illegal under Federal law.

    Wouldn’t that require someone willing to enforce Federal law?

    After all, the Trump family motto is:

    Nulla vincula si non fuerit prosecutus.

  189. 189.

    efgoldman

    @burnspbesq:

    The only way he doesn’t go to jail is if he complies with the subpoena.

    IANAL, but I think getting himself six feet under would also make it hard to enforce compliance.

  191. 191.

    Schlemazel

    @Rp:
    I have started reading him right after I read Sully. They deserve to be in the same folder

    I think the last time was ~2006 because JC linked something. I regretted it immediately & have not done it since.

  192. 192.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?

    @Ruckus:
    They have to rename from the “Black House” after Barack Hussein Osama’s tyrannical reign.

  193. 193.

    Roger Moore

    @Rp:

    Anyone following Greenwald today? He’s sunk to a new low.

    What has he done now?

  195. 195.

    No Drought No More

    Unlike JFK impersonator Vaughn Meader, at least Alec Baldwin will still have a career after Americans take out the trash:

    “According to several sources, standup comedian Lenny Bruce went on with his November 22 nightclub show as scheduled. Just hours after Kennedy’s death, Bruce walked onstage, stood silently for several moments, then said sadly, “Boy, is Vaughn Meader fucked.”

  198. 198.

    VeniceRiley

    I’m going to be late getting home. Gotta pick up popcorn for this. Can’t wait for Rachel at 6pm she must be so jealous of Ari today. hahaha

  200. 200.

    jl

    @Fair Economist: ‘prescribed meds’ can mean a lot these days, at least in some states.

    @MomSense: Maybe people should keep a look out for Nunberg in case he starts knocking on random front doors looking for sympathetic people to listen to his tale. Get your phone cam ready. Except check whether he’s looped before you open the door.

  201. 201.

    efgoldman

    @piratedan:

    nearly half of the country didn’t know what Watergate was or what it meant still rings true somehow…

    Should have changed our national anthem decades ago to “Don’t know nothin’ ’bout history….”

  202. 202.

    Redshift

    Okay, I haven’t seen any of his performance, I’ve just been reading about it, but my take is:

    a) like all Trump people, he’s extremely stupid
    b) his idol Roger Stone has managed to duck consequences all these years, so he’s convinced there must be some magic way out for him too.

  204. 204.

    Adam L Silverman

    @JPL: This is all being orchestrated by Roger to cover his own tuchas and to advance his own interests.

  207. 207.

    Rp

    @Roger Moore: he’s arguing that the us media deliberately supresssd reporting on bin laden’s grievances post 9/11. (A) 99% sure that’s a lie, (B) f*ck you for suggesting that 9/11 was justified.

  210. 210.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Cheryl Rofer: I hope the cops are waiting outside to pull him over as soon as he gets into his car.

    @Rp: Sad, because while 9/11 wasn’t justified in any sense of the word, it definitely had causes. Understanding what we did to provoke this kind of response helps us anticipate it in the future, and “they hate our freedoms” is such a stupid answer it doesn’t help anybody.

    By which I mean that the media really wasn’t interested in why 9/11 happened, and it IS something we should have spent more time on. But it’s also not a lesson we need to hear from Sam Fucking Nunberg.

  212. 212.

    Adam L Silverman

    @trollhattan: You multiply the number of 12-16 year old white girls per 100,000 of the Mississippi population by the Moore coefficient, then divide by 42. Place the result under the radical, take the square root, and you have your answer.

  213. 213.

    Roger Moore

    @Redshift:

    Okay, I haven’t seen any of his performance, I’ve just been reading about it, but my take is:

    Why don’t we turn to the wit and wisdom of Tommy Lasorda:

    What’s my opinion of Kingman’s performance? What the fuck do you think is my opinion of it? I think it was fucking horseshit. Put that in I don’t fucking … Opinion of his performance? Jesus Christ he beat us with three fucking home runs. What the fuck do you mean what is my opinion of his performance? How can you ask me a question like that? What is my opinion of his p – of his p-p-performance? Jesus Christ he hit three home runs. Jesus Christ. I’m fucking pissed off to lose the fucking game, and you ask me my opinion of his performance. Jesus Christ. I mean that’s a tough question to ask me, isn’t it? What is my opinion of his performance?

  214. 214.

    Brachiator

    @Viva BrisVegas:

    Wouldn’t that require someone willing to enforce Federal law?

    After all, the Trump family motto is:

    Nulla vincula si non fuerit prosecutus.

    Wait, that doesn’t mean,

    My hair is a dead orange ferret?

  217. 217.

    Adam L Silverman

    The Arc of Justice and all that…

  219. 219.

    No Drought No More

    I’m listening to Nunberg for the first time, right now on MSNBC. I understand now why his mentor Roger Stone stopped taking his calls. I consider it a fair assumption, anyway.

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    Dave

    @ruemara: Kenzidor is right that these guys and their associated movement is a significant threat, pretty undeniable at this point, but significantly overestimates them as well. These aren’t quality people at pretty much anything. They are terrible and given the opportunity will do terrible things but they are also that most American of things the clueless, weak, and soft blowhard. They don’t have staying power.

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    MisterForkbeard

    @jl: It was a Starbucks Blonde Latte with a hint of polonium.

    @Origuy: Ah. Well, not something we need to hear from Glenn Fucking Greenwald either, though it does show that he’s got affinity for the groups that attack the United States. It’s all just coincidence, though! Promise!

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    bemused

    If loopy yapper’s family was worried about him before today, they must be reeling right now.

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    debbie

    @Natasha Bertrand

    ! Tapper: Do you think Donald Trump knew nothing about that [Trump Tower] meeting?
    Nunberg: “No. You know he knew about it. He was talking about it a week before…I don’t know why he went around trying to hide it.”

    This guy’s self-destructing!

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    Viva BrisVegas

    @Brachiator: More like “There’s no jail if they won’t prosecute”.

    Another former Russian spy in the UK has been poisoned. Putin plays for keeps.

    Does Trump have a food taster or have they all succumbed to arteriosclerosis?

  230. 230.

    Gravenstone

    @Cheryl Rofer: It suddenly occurs to me that the scent of alcohol *could be* symptomatic of diabetic ketoacidosis. Probably not the case, but a plausible explanation.

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    Brachiator

    Here’s CNN’s Erin Burnett telling former Trump aide Sam Nunberg that she can smell alcohol on his breath. He says he hasn’t been drinking.

    Jesus! And what’s the top story on Fox News right now while all this is happening? Probably something about how Hollywood hates Trump and all Christians.

  232. 232.

    efgoldman

    @Roger Moore:

    Why don’t we turn to the wit and wisdom of Tommy Lasorda:

    Lasorda should have been pissed enough to spew all over himself. Any pitching staff that let fucking Dave Kingman beat them….

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    MisterForkbeard

    @debbie: Maybe even Trump-destructing.

    Assuming you can take any of this on faith. Hopefully Sam has contemporaneous accounts of all this, and that’s why he’s freaking out so publicly.

    @Brachiator: Actually, they ARE talking about it. Sort of: “Trump ex-campaign aide Nunberg defiantly vows to refuse Mueller’s subpoena”

    The headlines underneath it are “Sources: Strzok knew of possible breach into Clinton’s server but didn’t follow up” and “Mitchell Gard: Trump, tell terror-aiding Qatar it can kiss our air base goodbye”, with numerous other references to various democrats doing awful things.

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    Amir Khalid

    @Cheryl Rofer:
    Asking your interview subject on the air if they’ve been drinking is a hell of a serious matter. Burnett must be dead certain that Nunberg is drunk.

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    bemused

    Trump could flip out on multiple cable channels like Nunberg, his deplorable base would say it was fake and GOP would pretend they saw nothin’.

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    Brachiator

    @Cacti:

    The packet features Jeff’s mug with a doobie hanging from his mouth, and “Don’t Beauregard that joint my friend!” written beneath.

    That is perfect!

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    Aleta

    @Quinerly: drunk dialing CNN and MSNBC

    Release me from this madness, but not before convictions of at least 70 of them, w/ removal of all implied right to book deals.

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    Adam L Silverman

    @Baud: Obligatory (also, not our Dave Anderson – I checked):

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    MisterForkbeard

    @Cheryl Rofer: He admits he’s on anti-depressants. Those can have harsh reactions to alcohol. Had a girlfriend in college once who basically went nuts for about 4 hours because she had half a beer while taking some drugs to help with depression.

    If Erin smells alcohol on him AND he’s on anti-depressants, that can go a long way towards explaining his current behavior.

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    Rp

    No question there needed to be more discussion about bin ladens motives, but the claim that no one knew about his grievances because the media suppressed it is absurd imo.

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    ? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?

    @Gin & Tonic:
    He was an idiot for not more effectively taking advantage of his defeating the Nazis and all the goodwill that came with that. He instead acted like an aggressive ass and made the West (more) suspicious of the SU, and led to the Cold War.

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    Mnemosyne

    @Rp:

    I’m assuming that this is all a prelude to saying that mean ol’ Obama shouldn’t have assassinated poor, misunderstood Bin Laden.

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    jacy

    @MisterForkbeard:

    I take Buproprion in the mornings and often have insomnia and have tried various medications. Last year I had a beer an hour or two before taking a sleeping pill — in the middle of the night I called up The Boyfriend and argued with him for a couple of hours and bought some shoes on the internet and I have no memory of it at all — nothing. Never took that medication again…..

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    jl

    @Rp: I think it’s just flat wrong to say that there was no discussion of bin Laden’s gropes, or motives, or whatever you want to call them. I might not have agreed with the perspective of the corporate news pundits and news readers pretending to be journalists, but they were absolutely discussed.

  256. 256.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Steeplejack: Yes, but. The longer he refuses to do so, with the Cochran resignation as of 1 APR, McConnell has a 50-50 Senate. That means on any issue, including nominations, the Democrats only have to get one GOP senator to break ranks.

  257. 257.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Rp: He posted a manifesto! Everyone knew what his motives were. That the Bush 43 Administration played them down is another story.

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    ? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?

    @Gin & Tonic:
    Like zhena gogolia said, they weren’t his objectives. I get that. He was never going to turn into George Washington or anything. Russia was certainly prime ground liberal ideas anyway.

  265. 265.

    Adam L Silverman

    @WaterGirl: Non-partisan special election held at the same time as the general election in November to serve out the remainder of Cochrane’s term till 2020. So the seat will stay empty from 1 April through next January when the next Congress is seated.

  267. 267.

    WaterGirl

    @Adam L Silverman: The google just told me that in Mississippi:

    Mississippi
    ​Miss. Code Ann. 23-15-855
    Interim gubernatorial appointment? Yes
    Within 100 days of when governor receives official notice of vacancy, unless vacancy occurs in the year of a general state or congressional election, in which case the vacancy is filled in that election

    Or am I misreading some of the fine print?

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    Jay C

    @Adam L Silverman: @WaterGirl:

    Mississippi law provides than in the case of a Senate vacancy with more than a year remaining in the term, the Governor MAY (though not apparently required to) appoint a successor, whose tenure must be confirmed either:
    1. By Special Election within 90 days of appointment, or
    2. By confirmation at the next General Election (this year)
    either way, the winner of either election serves out the remainder of Cochran’s term (til 2020).
    Anyway, MS will probably have TWO Senatorial elections this November: Roger Wicker’s term is up as well.

  275. 275.

    Adam L Silverman

    @WaterGirl: This is the operative part of what you looked up:

    unless vacancy occurs in the year of a general state or congressional election, in which case the vacancy is filled in that election

    It is an election year. So no interim appointment. Just a special, non-partisan, second senatorial election in November.

  276. 276.

    psycholinguist

    On the Mississippi senator – Mike Espy is running as the Democrat – he was Clinton’s sec. of agg, and a really sharp guy (and AA, that would be something). He was in the house back when we used to elect democrats on occasion. I bet we’re about to see an interim Haley Barbour – yuck.

    There is a Roy Moore type nut that may get the nomination named McDaniel who is one odious MF. He ran against Cochran last go-round and went after Thad’s wife (who’s in a nursing home). If he gets it, and Trump gets brought up on charges about that time, who knows. Espy is a pretty well loved figure from the good ole days.

  278. 278.

    Miss Bianca

    @David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch: I’ve just started a re-watch of “Deadwood”. I’ve just finished the part where Swearingen gets rid of the stupid rich-boy prospector wanna-be who’s been thrteaing him with the Pinkertons by telling his henchman, sotto voce, “Make it look like an accident.”

    @Amir Khalid: “TOP OF THE WORLD, MA!!”

  283. 283.

    James E. Powell

    Oh my God! People are arguing about whether Stalin was smart! WTF?!?

    How did that get onto the Top 100 things to argue about on the internet, first week of March 2018?

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