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You are here: Home / Politics / Goddamned Traitors / Late-Night Wingnut Wurlizter Open Thread: Tucker Carlson’s Vanity Project – Willing Putin Accomplices or Useful Idiots?

Late-Night Wingnut Wurlizter Open Thread: Tucker Carlson’s Vanity Project – Willing Putin Accomplices or Useful Idiots?

by Anne Laurie|  March 9, 20182:59 am| 34 Comments

This post is in: Goddamned Traitors, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Russiagate, All Too Normal

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The Daily Caller just published an op-ed on "The Ever-Changing ‘Russia Narrative’" written by Oleg Deripaska, the Putin ally and Russia billionaire who paid Paul Manafort millions to lobby for Putin-friendly oligarchs in Ukrainehttps://t.co/QY8wqMT1eC

— Astead (@AsteadWesley) March 8, 2018

I know ‘can you imagine… ‘ is an overworked trope, but if — for instance — Think Progress had published an op-ed like this, the Daily Caller would be screaming for Trump to send Seal Team Six through their office window.

This includes no disclosure of Deripaska's ties to Putin or Manafort, either. https://t.co/GsLIPyPTvR

— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) March 8, 2018

Newsworthy? Sure. But given his ties to a propagandist and adversarial foreign power, perhaps a Q&A in which you could have actually challenged him.

Also, not sure how there is zero disclosure of his Putin or Manafort ties. Stunning, really.

— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) March 8, 2018

BTW, I’m being only a little cheeky about this. Remember that Manafort’s bail terms got squeezed tighter when he was caught writing an op-ed for some oligarch (iirc it wasn’t Deripaska) https://t.co/25F1QAt27k

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) March 8, 2018


Like, you'd really think that one benefit of being a Russian oligarch is that whoever you pay to write your Daily Caller op-ed is a better writer than this (the kicker!!) pic.twitter.com/iD9yxannAl

— Tom Gara (@tomgara) March 8, 2018

I doubt if the Daily Caller staff have health care, let alone life insurance!

— Lindsay Beyerstein (@Beyerstein) March 9, 2018

Would like to know which PR/lobbying firm helped place this. They may need to register under FARA.

— Tommy Vietor (@TVietor08) March 8, 2018

Bring out the puke funnel, boys…

Drudge has linked to Russian propaganda hundreds of times in recent years. He's already linking to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska's Daily Caller op-ed. pic.twitter.com/S7EzIBl8Fo

— Media Matters (@mmfa) March 8, 2018

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  1. 1.

    mike in dc

    March 9, 2018 at 3:17 am

    “This ‘Helter-Skelter’ Murder Investigation Is Turning Into A Witch Hunt” by Mr. C. Manson.
    Mr. Manson is a prominent figure in the LA youth counterculture community

  2. 2.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 9, 2018 at 3:42 am

    Tucker Carlson is a traitor.

    Wow, that’s fucking shocking, isn’t it?

  3. 3.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 9, 2018 at 3:56 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: I’m not sure he’s smart enough to be a traitor.

  4. 4.

    Debbie(aussie)

    March 9, 2018 at 4:01 am

    Even from the side of the planet this seems amazing. To answer the question in the title, I’ll go with both ☹️

  5. 5.

    Debbie(aussie)

    March 9, 2018 at 4:05 am

    Can’t seem to edit my comment should be ‘other’ side, duh!

  6. 6.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 9, 2018 at 4:11 am

    Love this headline at the Guardian: How Trump tried to keep his alleged affair with Stormy Daniels a secret “Alleged”? Please….

  7. 7.

    Pete Downunder

    March 9, 2018 at 4:12 am

    @Debbie(aussie): Is it time for an Oz meet-up? There are least 3 or 4 Aussies (or ex-pats living in Oz) who comment here.

  8. 8.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 9, 2018 at 4:21 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: The entire GOP are traitors including their President who refuses to attack Putin no matter what.

  9. 9.

    Amir Khalid

    March 9, 2018 at 4:27 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    Trump probably wants to deny the affair. He was already in the doghouse with Melania before word of it came out; and there’s a chance, however slim, that he might sue the Graun for calling the affair a fact.

  10. 10.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 9, 2018 at 4:39 am

    @Amir Khalid:No lawsuit of anyone by trump would ever get to discovery. That said, here’s my alternative headline:

    How trump tried to keep his relationship with Stormy Daniels a secret

  11. 11.

    Sm*t Cl*de

    March 9, 2018 at 4:56 am

    @Amir Khalid:
    Teh Grauniad are well-lawyered. They would love a presnidential lawsuit.

  12. 12.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 9, 2018 at 4:57 am

    Texas, it’s a whole ‘nother country:

    A Texas judge has been rebuked after he ordered a defendant to be shocked repeatedly with a 50,000-volt stun belt for failing to answer his questions. The remote-controlled bands usually wrap around the legs or waist and are occasionally deployed to immobilize prisoners who turn violent or try to escape, despite ethical and safety concerns.

    Terry Lee Morris was not violent during his 2014 trial in Tarrant County, near Dallas. But George Gallagher, the judge, grew vexed when Morris demanded that Gallagher recuse himself.
    “Are you going to follow the rules?” Gallagher asked.
    Morris replied: “I have a lawsuit pending against you.”
    “Hit him,” Gallagher told a bailiff, who pressed the button to activate the belt.
    “Are you going to behave?” Gallagher then asked Morris, who responded, “I have a history of mental illness.”
    “Hit him again,” the judge said.
    ………………
    Justice Yvonne Rodriguez wrote that “electrocuting a defendant until he provides the judge with behavior he likes” is an abuse of power. The court added that since Morris had been removed from the courtroom, he was too scared to return and refused to leave his cell, and therefore his constitutional right to attend his own trial was impaired. Rodriguez added that if it allowed such judicial conduct to be left unaddressed, it risked a “drift from justice into barbarism”.

    Gee, ya think?

    In a follow-up report by the Washington Post, Gallagher declined to comment, citing “judicial ethics”.

    I’m just gonna take a wild guess and say that the judge and I have different ideas of just exactly what constitutes “judicial ethics”.

  13. 13.

    Jay

    March 9, 2018 at 5:03 am

    Wow, the calls are now coming from “inside” the house.

  14. 14.

    Tony Jay

    March 9, 2018 at 5:03 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I’m not sure he’s smart enough to be a traitor.

    That gets said a lot in relation to the various turds swimming around the American Right’s toilet bowl but it’s not really that much of a contradiction. I think history would bear me out if I said that while some traitors have been smart and cunning enough to achieve their aims and actually grasp and hold onto power (in which case the old saw about “If treason doth prosper, none dare call it treason” comes into effect), the majority of traitors, especially the ones who do it for money, aren’t likely to be the sharpest tools in the box. They can’t be, as they’re doing something incredibly dangerous for an often piddling financial reward, but they’re not capable of doing a simple risk/reward calculation beforehand.

    I think that’s the case with most of the treason being unearthed by Mueller’s investigation. So many of these chancers, scoundrels and grifters – right on up to the occupier of the Oval Office – have been playing Russia’s game at whatever remove because they saw a way to make money out of it. Ideology, however much they personally buy into it, was always secondary to the prospect of shady moolah. And they thought they’d get away with it because they always had in the past. The idea that riding their Russian money-train right into the White House might bring out the bright klieg lights of serious investigation never seemed to occur to them… because they’re stupid.

    tl:dr – Most traitors aren’t smart, they’re just greedy.

  15. 15.

    NotMax

    March 9, 2018 at 5:14 am

    @OzarkHillbilly

    One step forward, 30,000 steps back. Shameful, disgraceful, repugnant and a raft of other adjectives unfit for polite company.

    GM’s World of Tomorrow exhibit at the ’39 World’s Fair expunged a lot of the future.

  16. 16.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 9, 2018 at 5:18 am

    @Tony Jay: This is America where the pursuit of money is the national past time. Just being greedy ain’t enough. Just being greedy and stupid ain’t enough. Otherwise Dana Rohrabacher would have been in prison decades ago.

  17. 17.

    lowtechcyclist

    March 9, 2018 at 5:27 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    @Villago Delenda Est: I’m not sure he’s smart enough to be a traitor.

    As Tony Jay said, you don’t need to be smart to be a traitor.

    My mind still boggles at how totally all-in the right wing is with the new “Russia’s great, fuck Europe” party line. I’m 64, and one of the defining GOP memes for my entire lifetime up until the past few years has been “you can count on us to be tougher against Russia than those spineless comsymp Dems.” And suddenly, they’re Putin’s little buddy.

  18. 18.

    Debbie(aussie)

    March 9, 2018 at 5:32 am

    @Pete Downunder:
    Would like that. But it’s a very big country ?

  19. 19.

    Robert Sneddon

    March 9, 2018 at 5:37 am

    @lowtechcyclist: Today’s Russia is right-wing, pseudo-Christian, militaristic, racist and sexist and yearns for the Good Old Days. What’s not to like in that for American right-wingers compared to Germanistan or sharia-dominated Britain (both of whom have weak feeble female leaders too!)

  20. 20.

    Comrade Nimrod Humperdink

    March 9, 2018 at 5:55 am

    @Debbie(aussie): Yeah, I get asked to explain Trump all the time. I try, but it’s not always easy. After the election somebody asked me why I was so upset, and I said “Imagine Pauline Hanson just became the Prime Minister and her party had a full majority in both houses of Parliament. Would you find that, stressful?” I found that worked.

  21. 21.

    Amir Khalid

    March 9, 2018 at 6:02 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    Gallagher had an accused person physically tortured. I don’t understand why he’s still a judge.

  22. 22.

    rikyrah

    March 9, 2018 at 6:21 am

    Traitors all

  23. 23.

    Tony Jay

    March 9, 2018 at 6:36 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Well, yeah. Rohrabacher is a great example. Clearly he’s a dim little rat who has been the Kremlin’s bag-man for a long time, but he was getting away with it because the pursuit of dirty cash is, like you say, as American as dancing girls and maverick TV cops, and the people who – should – have been on his case saw nothing wrong with a little Russian grift as long as it was paying for things that benefitted them. Ryan said as much in his not-famous-enough warning about keeping all the Russian funding on the down-low. They didn’t care that it could be looked at as treason because they’re ‘savvy’ enough to look at it as just another shady funding stream that would let them achieve their real aims of billionaire welfare and mass disenfranchisment of minorities.

    What’s changed is the scale of the grift and its obviousness. All of the little rats found their individual small and not-so-small shennanigans coalescing into one great, big, foreign intelligence operation aimed at torpedoing U.S. democracy, and now they’re exposed and in the open. It no longer really matters what coy little euphemisms they use amongst themselves to cloak what they did for money. The US Intelligence Agencies, via Mueller, have their own terms of reference for their actions, like bribery, conspiracy and, in Rohrabacher’s case, probably some kind of espionage. He and the others may have done it for money, which was stupid, but what they did went far beyond just financial crimes.

  24. 24.

    Viva BrisVegas

    March 9, 2018 at 6:40 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    I don’t understand why he’s still a judge.

    It’s Texas. Unless the judge is unlucky he is now a shoo-in for the Texas Courts of Appeals.

    The defendant’s own attorney didn’t feel obliged to object to the electrocution.

    That’s Texas.

  25. 25.

    Marmot

    March 9, 2018 at 6:56 am

    Texas, it’s a whole ‘nother country:

    A Texas judge has been rebuked after he ordered a defendant to be shocked …

    That’s horrible. But the lesson you took is that it’s the fault of Texas?

    That’s kind of impressive. Lots of cowboy movies in your childhood? You know that among 27 million people, the odds of random stories cropping up about terrible people are a bit high, right?

  26. 26.

    Marmot

    March 9, 2018 at 7:04 am

    @Viva BrisVegas: As if on cue.

    We Texas Dems are doing our damnedest, and you pricks aren’t helping. Fucking get yourself a geography lesson.

  27. 27.

    Viva BrisVegas

    March 9, 2018 at 7:49 am

    @Marmot:

    We Texas Dems are doing our damnedest, and you pricks aren’t helping.

    Whoa there buckaroo, somebody put a burr under your saddle?

    I didn’t mention Dems. I assumed, correctly, that the judge was a Republican, and that his actions were the sort of actions that please Republicans.

    Fucking get yourself a geography lesson.

    Don’t see how that would help. I know where Texas is. It’s a small state where, if Florida is America’s penis then Texas is located right around where the bumhole would be.

    If you want to blame someone for pointing out that the torturing of defendants in court is not a good idea, start blaming those who voted to allow the accused to be fitted out with electroshock in the first place and then expected it would not get abused, i.e. your fellow Texans. If that doesn’t help get Dems elected, then fuck Texas.

  28. 28.

    Sab

    March 9, 2018 at 7:53 am

    @Debbie(aussie): I live in Ohio and even I know that Australia is a country and an entire continent.

  29. 29.

    germy

    March 9, 2018 at 8:20 am

    My local sinclair tv news station features Boris Russianlastname as a regular commentor. The station also has a news tip line. I was tempted to call in and tell them Boris was being questioned by Mueller, but I was too lazy.

    Sinclair actually owns a bunch of stations. One that plays only shitty, 4th-rate sci fi films, another one that’s intended for young people that consists of young people juggling and skateboarding (remarkably content-free), another one that plays ’70s action films, another one that’s all sports. And there’s a “CW” one that’s playing reruns of Tim Allen’s cancelled show… This is all in addition to their news channel. It’s quite a monopoly.

  30. 30.

    Westyny

    March 9, 2018 at 9:38 am

    In Russia, Putin-tied oligarch edits you.

  31. 31.

    jc

    March 9, 2018 at 12:52 pm

    “This includes no disclosure of Deripaska’s ties to Putin or Manafort.”

    Naturally. It’s Tucker Carlson, human superfund site of toxic sludge.

  32. 32.

    Ruckus

    March 9, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    @lowtechcyclist:
    It was communism that was the issue, not Russia per se. After all we were allies with them during the WAR. And we weren’t fighting the USSR/Russia in Vietnam, we were fighting to stop communism. Now that Russia is no longer communist, all is well and they are the greatest. We Won! And then, primarily because they are exactly the country that conservatives would like us to be. The very, very wealthy get to do whatever the fuck they want and everyone else gets to help them do that. The ones that help the ultra wealthy get paid and promoted well and the rest can suck it. They like Vlad because he’s exactly their roll model.

  33. 33.

    Ruckus

    March 9, 2018 at 1:33 pm

    @Viva BrisVegas:

    The defendant’s own attorney didn’t feel obliged to object to the electrocution.

    Probably/possibly figured correctly that if he did object he’d get the volts as well.

  34. 34.

    tybee

    March 9, 2018 at 1:45 pm

    @Marmot:

    Texas, it’s a whole ‘nother third world country

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