…have been sacked:
JUST IN: Under Secretary of State Steve Goldstein is being fired for contradicting the account of Rex Tillerson’s dismissal, White House official tells @PeterAlexander
— NBC Politics (@NBCPolitics) March 13, 2018
Jesus, what a fucking shit-show. Open thread!
eclare
I so hope for good news out of PA….
Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA)
To be replaced by Ralph the Wonder Llama.
Corner Stone
I just figured the whole crew was going to have to go. A decapitation strike, if you will.
dmsilev
The
beatingsfirings will continue until morale improves.Yellowdog
Does anyone have turnout estimates for PA 18? Especially for Allegheny county,where Lamb is supposed to have strength
Corner Stone
@eclare:
It’s going to be a hell of a day, either way.
different-church-lady
Tuesday Morning Massacre.
LAO
Kay
Mueller has to hire more people. This is what, the third person who has been kicked out of there for national security reasons?
I think there’s a problem here! I don’t pretend to know anything about national security but I think it’s bad when you hire criminals.
schrodingers_cat
But her emailz…
How is garbage times reporting this?
Cermet
@LAO: LOL; so true. But then for the goobers that voted for that orange fart cloud, lying to themselves is the only way they can keep any belief in their phony christianity and not shoot themselves in frustration about what losers they have become.
different-church-lady
Just in case some of you don’t look at Cole’s Twitter feed:
Corner Stone
I guess this is good news for Maddow. More funding for building a Bigger Wall!
MomSense
@Corner Stone:
Was PA one of the states Russia successfully infiltrated?
I’m thinking I need a wool lined tinfoil hat. Does anyone know if the wool would interfere with the reception?
scav
How can one contradict an incoherent chaos of random verbiage?
“Stop the presses! Pull this car over! Release the Erinyes! Someone inadvertently made sense!” I guess.
Kay
Well, if Rex were a real patriot he would spill the beans. But he won’t.
They’re useless at work and they’re even useless as disgruntled employees. It’s such a lie that these people are working for this asshole as some kind of Double Agent of Liberty. Stormy Daniels is a better patriot than any of them.
Leto
@Corner Stone: My wife joked the same thing; at this rate, she’s going to need a skyscraper by the end of the year.
trollhattan
@Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA):
We have tickets to see John Cleese and a screening of “Holy Grail” later this month. Am officially chuffed.
Believe he’s calling this his “fund my divorce” tour.
different-church-lady
@MomSense: You realize the tinfoil is how they get the signals in, don’t you?
MJS
There has to be at least one of the recently shit-canned who have both the decency and balls to take their story public, right? Right?
GxB
My sister was once bitten by a moose…
To topic, I do believe this is critical mass for the dotard. Strap in everyone, it gonna get really rough.
Kay
Rex’s wife said God wanted Rex to be Secretary of State. Ergo, Trump is now on the wrong side of God.
Miss Bianca
Betty, i literally, honest to God,literally *just* had that image flit thru, my head as i was reading down the previous thread, thought i’d b clever and post it, and there you are!
And where the hell is Ralph the Wonder Llama when you need him? At this rate, he’ll be the only one left to take a position in the WH.
MomSense
@different-church-lady:
Ha! Yes.
Yarrow
@different-church-lady: I was just thinking that these firings could be the TrumpRussia version of the Saturday Night Massacre. Or at least one version. Certainly more to come.
Miss Bianca
Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA)</: Jinx!
Kay
@MJS:
They’re all afraid of Trump. Stormy Daniels appears to be the bravest among them. Oddly enough.
I worry about her a little. I hope she has a security detail.
Chip Daniels
@Kay:
In all seriousness, Rex may be afraid of ending up poisoned.
oatler.
Like Jimmy Burke after the Lufthansa heist.
Chip Daniels
@Kay:
I think Stormy Daniels is the safest because I really don’t think anyone on the Trump side takes a woman, much less a porn star, seriously.
chris
@MomSense: Here you go, just the thing… http://www.stopabductions.com/
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
@MomSense: I could be wrong, but I don’t think they got into Pennsylvania.
Corner Stone
@MJS:
I know, right? “Who will be my Nunberg? Get me my Nunberg!”
condorcet runner-up
@Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA): … along with 40 specially trained Ecuadorian mountain llamas, 6 Venezuelan red llamas, 142 Mexican whooping llamas, 14 North Chilean guanacos (closely related to the llama), reg llama of brixton, 76000 battery llamas from “llama-fresh” farms ltd. near Paraguay …
Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA)
@trollhattan: If ever there were a guaranteed fun evening, John Cleese at a Holy Grail screening would be it. Enjoy!
Chyron HR
@Kay:
Interesting point. If Stormy Daniels has a flagrantly Russian accident, will the media unquestioningly repeat the White House line that Hillary did it, or would they more fairly report that Republicans and Democrats disagreed on the culprit?
Davis X. Machina
Trump’s a pimp. He never could’ve out-fought Hillary. But I didn’t know until this day that it was Putin all along.
Corner Stone
@MomSense:
Voter rolls I am not sure about. But infiltrated with mind warping ads and bot conversations? I would have to say definitely as we see how PA’s vote for president went.
Also, Big Money supposedly just dropped a ton of cash into PA-18.
TenguPhule
Doomsday clock moves 2 minutes closer to midnight.
TenguPhule
@Corner Stone:
Tumbrels mandatory.
Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA)
@condorcet runner-up: Nope, Reg Llama of Brixton just quit. One of the whooping llamas is Secretary of State now.
MAGA! (Mexican Animals Get Appointments!)
TenguPhule
@Chyron HR:
Yes.
Leto
@Kay: He’s a patriot alright, just not a US patriot:
In 2013,
Never forget where RexXon’s loyalties lie.
Roger Moore
@schrodingers_cat:
A quick look at their headlines:
The last one really takes the cake. I don’t know if it’s really true- there were a lot of questions about Tillerson before his appointment and even more for how he did/failed to do his job- but to the extent it’s true it’s more of a sign of how awful Trump’s other picks were than an indication of Tillerson’s competence.
Aleta
@Kay: Makes sense if God’s idea of the world is no more than Exxon’s map of oil resources.
MomSense
@chris:
Of course this exists on the internet. I think wool may be a problem but I have no idea what velostat is.
TenguPhule
@schrodingers_cat:
Tillerson was “often at odds” with Trump.
Stenography by the numbers.
smintheus
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): Yes, they did infiltrate Pennsylvania.
Gin & Tonic
Apropos of nothing, if you’re on Instagram, the account of the British Royal Family (theroyalfamily) is pretty neat, but they have a pic today of Prince Charles greeting a security dog at Heathrow that is charming – and who knows whether he’s a jerk, but Holy Moses, he has a fantastic tailor.
TenguPhule
@MJS:
There is no Santa Claus.
MomSense
@Corner Stone:
That’s a lot of Republican money.
Corner Stone
@Roger Moore:
I think, as is the case with most CEO’s, Rex’s former company XOM was successful despite his incompetence. Massive drain of talent, smarts and experience from our Foreign Service that we may never get back. Relationships that took decades to build don’t just spring back up.
Gin & Tonic
@TenguPhule: Wasn’t it already *at* two minutes to midnight?
WaterGirl
@LAO:
Isn’t that the truth!
Amir Khalid
@Kay:
Who follows Donald Trump worships a trickster God.
Leto
So RexXon’s top spokesman who was fired along with him today, Steve Goldstein, was a senior vice president of BP Global Solutions before joining the State Department. Is there anyone at the upper levels of State who wasn’t a former oil exec? Was that a pre-requisite to being named? I mean, we’re continuing to shed highly qualified diplomatic personnel, but we still have the oilmen in charge. ><
rikyrah
@Kay:
You are so brutal, Kay.
simply telling the truth…..you are brutal.
TenguPhule
@Gin & Tonic: Yep.
scav
@Gin & Tonic: How does the Doomsday Clock adapt to DST and who was it that was in charge of adjusting all those White House Clocks? Could very well be that we’re currently at 12:58.
WaterGirl
@Yarrow: Is it currently Saturday night in Russia? That could explain things.
rikyrah
@Kay:
1. He was the Secretary of Exxon.
2. He got his $71 million dollar tax break.
He is NOT a patriot.
SFAW
@Kay:
Hell, Aldrich Ames is a better patriot than any of them.
TenguPhule
@Amir Khalid:
Loki, Crow and Murphy strongly object to that discriminating labeling.
Tricksters are not chaotic evil.
? Martin
@MJS: No. Anyone with anything to tell is going to get snapped up by Mueller before they can tell their story. That might be the best long term approach anyway. Let Trump battle the porn stars in the public space.
This isn’t about ‘winning’ public opinion, it’s about holding people accountable. I don’t want to win, I want people to go to prison.
WaterGirl
@Yarrow: I could use some calming down. I would like to place an order for about a dozen tick, tock mutherfuckers. Please.
Yarrow
@Chip Daniels: Or afraid his wife and/or kids will end up poisoned. Seems to be the trend for the FSB to go after families.
eclare
@Gin & Tonic: That is a great suit…at this point, I would be fine with the royals in charge, at least they believe in climate change. Plus as opposed to Cadet Bonespurs, some of them have actually served.
Roger Moore
@LAO:
In traditional America, you fired for lying.
In Trump’s America, lying fire you!
Corner Stone
@Gin & Tonic: What good is a Doomsday Clock if you never use it?
father pusbucket
@dmsilev:
bystander
If nobody has used the deck chairs/Titanic cliche, let me interject it here in all jocularity.
Mike in DC
We’re somewhere north of 43% turnover. Has to be closing in on 50% if not there already. 67% by year end seems achievable. Any company with turnover like this would see an exodus and everyone would short or sell the stock.
different-church-lady
@TenguPhule:
TenguPhule
@bystander: Typically, the Titanic crew didn’t insist on charging faster into the iceberg.
TenguPhule
@different-church-lady: Well played.
Corner Stone
@? Martin:
Actually, I could do with some winning right about now.
eclare
@WaterGirl: How is Henry doing? Does your other dog still come home tomorrow?
Roger Moore
@father pusbucket:
I would suggest starting with Trump. No faster way to make America Great Again.
Gin & Tonic
@eclare: If I’m not mistaken, every male royal has served in the armed forces.
Roger Moore
@Corner Stone:
Personally, I’m so fucking tired of all the winning, I want to stop winning all the time.
Bobby Thomson
@Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): the hell you say.
SFAW
@Kay:
That thinking is SO
last millenniumlast centurylast decade2015!O-botHill-bot!Leto
@Aleta: Prosperity Gospel, which I think all oilmen subscribe to, says it is. This reminds me of the PetroBaptists from The Year of the Flood by Margaret Atwood. If people haven’t read her MaddAdam series, I highly recommend it.
SFAW
@Gin & Tonic:
What, none of them had bone spurs? Or “other priorities”?
ETA: By the way: did you save me any of the smoked salmon? I put in my request about five threads down, you might not have seen it.
trollhattan
@Roger Moore:
“The least-rabid of the rabid animal pack, Tillerson had the beltway’s respect.”
Betty Cracker
kindness
In keeping with the spirit of this administration, tonight’s headlines will read:
Republican Rick Saccone Sacked By Trump After Losing Election To Connor Lamb.
Brachiator
@Roger Moore:
Every time I see this headline, I keep thinking, “What, the actress from ‘Grey’s Anatomy’ is Secretary of State?”
I went back and looked at the WaPo stories around the time of Tillerson’s nomination. Back when Republicans pretended to care about the Russians. Well regarded? Not really.
It’s not just the NYT. Up and down, news organizations can’t seem to remember their own stories about Washington politics. It’s freaking ridiculous.
TenguPhule
@Roger Moore:
I want boring back. I want a government and a nation that doesn’t generate humiliating and horrifying headlines EVERY FUCKING SINGLE DAY.
TenguPhule
@Betty Cracker:
Well fuck.
MJS
@? Martin: They’re not mutually exclusive. If someone legitimately knows nothing about what Mueller is investigating, but does have first hand knowledge that Trump is a fucking moron, that information needs to be shared. Regardless of whether Mueller is finished with his investigation or not, there will be elections in November and before (even today) that remain important. The more credible “Trump is a moron” stories there are, the better.
MaryL
@Gin & Tonic: Not just the males. Queen Elizabeth served as a mechanic and truck driver in WWII.
Gin & Tonic
@SFAW: Missed it, sorry. It was very tasty, I can tell you that. Better luck next time.
LAO
Oy vey:
SFAW
@Gin & Tonic:
Yeah, rub it in, why dontcha?
Glad you enjoyed it. Considering you mentioned it around 1 AM, and my request was around 10 AM, I figured as much.
Nelle
I try to work on my list of the day. I really do. Then I get sucked back in. And if we go back to boring, how will the 24/7 news cycle ever adjust. They are on a crack high with all this chaos. The rest of us want to live our lives according to our personal choices, without an eye over the shoulder to see if crazy president has lit the match yet . No? Not yet? How about now?
Aleta
@Kay: She and the other women with stories aren’t safe. The others haven’t felt safe since the campaign, I think, especially those who came forward in early fall 2016.
Daniels showed his operatives that the nondisclosure agreements some (or many) have signed can’t be counted on.
Most of the internet and the comedy guys are still focused on headlines and jokes about ‘pn star’ and ‘pn pcs,’ but I think they overlook Daniels’ actual situation. And the probability that many women have been threatened and coerced.
SiubhanDuinne
@Gin & Tonic:
That is a really delightful photo. The PoW looks happy and relaxed, and that pup is as cute as they come.
Fleeting Expletive
I’ve been in a ridiculous comedy for the last week or so. Cox Communications (ptui!) raised my cable to an absurd $$, so I went into AT&T knowing that they’re the debil but a lot cheaper at least for a while. The process involved almost ten actual people visiting my house–sales and trainees, a random supervisor, and three installers one of whom had his drill torque out on him and slash his finger and blood and oh damn. Now I’ve got it more or less working, figuring out how to do the stupid remote control. I’ll live with it.
When I turn it on though and the picture comes up it is pink, like through a pink filter. ?? I was told by them to halfway pull out the HTML cord on the box and then reinsert it, and then the picture is OK. Do I have a bad connection or is this like the IT all purpose advice to unplug/plug when your computer is wacky, maybe a bad cord?
This, and I did a swan dive in my living room onto my knee, failing to see a brown 5 lb sack of potatoes that slid onto my brown wood floor. Shoulda put all the groceries away. My knee and my dignity are offended.
Gin & Tonic
@TenguPhule: Close associate of late Putin critic Boris Berezovsky.
mai naem mobile
I thought the Dolt45 admin was going to be bad but even for me he’s tens times worse than I had ever imagined. What an asshole. When you have me feeling any sympathy for Rext there’s something awful with Orange Asshole. I don’t honestly understand how treating other Republicans like this is okay with his base. Forget the policy implications. I am just talking about treating another person.
WaterGirl
@eclare: Good memory! Yes, Tucker comes home tomorrow. Henry is off all his meds, and the first couple days without painkillers was hard, he looked so sad and his eyes weren’t clear, but we’re a day past that and he is doing pretty well.
Still not using that leg much because it hurts. He sleeps a lot in the crate and barks constantly if I leave the room. He is happy and relaxed when he gets to lie next to me on the sofa or with me on the mattress on the floor. He’ll start the water treadmill 2x week next week.
Tucker is coming home for one night on Wednesday so I can gauge what the challenges will be with Tucker back home and Henry most certainly being wound up about that. Then he’ll go back for one or more nights, depending on how things go with the two of them here on Wednesday and Thursday.
thanks for thinking of us!
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trollhattan
@Betty Cracker:
Holy crap, we have a slow war breaking out in Europe.
Jeffro
The comments and GIFs and what not on that NBC Politics tweet are pretty funny.
rikyrah
@? Martin:
truth
low-tech cyclist
@different-church-lady: “Why can’t the first part of the second party be the second part of the first party? Then you’ve got something!”
different-church-lady
@Fleeting Expletive: Knock it off,
Doug J.Cole.Mike in DC
@trollhattan:
Hope the West starts arranging untimely accidents for deserving oligarchs.
TenguPhule
@Gin & Tonic: UK has to start killing some Russian operatives in retaliation or this is going to get completely out of hand.
different-church-lady
@low-tech cyclist: Third base!
Tom Levenson
@Gin & Tonic: This is true. I was once at a wedding where Charles was the official witness. He’s a little man with a kind of funny body-shape, but his morning suit made him look like a million bucks. The capper was his yellow silk waistcoat. (Also, his bespoke yarmulke, blue velvet embroidered w. his coat of arms, was a hoot.)
lollipopguild
@MaryL: Prince Phillip served in the Royal Navy in WW2.
trollhattan
Beeb op/ed on Tillerson ends thusly.
? Martin
@MJS: No, I agree, but Tillerson would be front and center in any kind of collusion/obstruction investigation, and I’d rather he tell all to Mueller than to the WaPo.
I wonder if Pompeo will be confirmed. His fondness for torture really doesn’t play well in a soft power position, and while the GOP seems intent on not being critical of Trump, it’s also apparent that they’re internally freaking out. One way to split that baby is to show oversight over confirmation and leave it to Trump to dig his own hole.
Gin & Tonic
@Brachiator:
And, in the end, voted “aye” on the nomination, as did every single Republican.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
Agreed. Putin is out of control. How long before he orders the killings of foreign civilians who stand in his way?
Gin & Tonic
@? Martin: He’ll get in, 50-49 with McCain absent and Pence casting the tiebreaker.
ruemara
@trollhattan: You do? I’ve been considering it myself.
On topic: this is all not fucking concerning at all, is it?
Corner Stone
Haven’t seen this mentioned too much:
ICE spokesman resigns over Sessions’ ‘misleading’ raid comments
” “I quit because I didn’t want to perpetuate misleading facts,” Schwab told The San Francisco Chronicle, which first reported his resignation. “I asked them to change the information. I told them that the information was wrong, they asked me to deflect, and I didn’t agree with that. Then I took some time and I quit.”
In a speech last week to the California Peace Officers’ Association, Sessions said “ICE failed to make 800 arrests” because of Schaaf’s actions, citing a briefing from Homan. “
Gin & Tonic
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
Au contraire. He is fully in control. He has just signaled that he can reach out and hit anyone, anywhere, with no consequences.
low-tech cyclist
@TenguPhule:
This. A thousand times this.
I want no-drama Obama back. Or at least someone who can do a reasonable impression of being a grownup every day.
eclare
@trollhattan: And who would normally have the UK’s back in this war?
Aleta
@SFAW: Was this some special kind of smoked salmon?
TenguPhule
@Corner Stone: Its been mentioned a couple of times so far in other threads today.
But the shitshow at the Whitehouse is simply taking up more space.
eclare
@WaterGirl: Good luck! No fun when our critters don’t feel well.
chris
Not really funny but made me LOL
Roger Moore
@TenguPhule:
This. I think in the long term, though, this hurts the Republicans. They do better when people feel comfortable ignoring politics, because it lets lazy thinkers go back to their old imaginary ideas of what the parties support and occasional voters feel it’s safe to stay home. When the government is in the news every day, especially when it’s in the news every day for bad reasons, even low-information voters get the point that the Republicans are bad news.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
They really are fucked aren’t they? Can’t impeach Trump because it’ll piss of their base, they’ll lose anyway this November. If they don’t they’ll probably still lose.
Barbara
@Corner Stone:
Dropping a lot of money right at the end has minimal impact. It’s the big money they have been dropping all along that should have made the difference. I was in Pittsburgh about a month ago and there was saturation coverage of the election with repetitive ads playing on most channels. My sister practically cried when she realized that the election was more than one month away.
WaterGirl
@trollhattan: @Mike in DC: This strategy if “we can’t go after Putin for murdering our people because he’ll do something terrible in retaliation” makes me want to scream:
TenguPhule
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
That boat has long since sailed.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Gin & Tonic:
Another tie-breaking vote by Pence! What does that make it now? 3 or 4 by now in a little over a year? Not normal.
MJS
@? Martin: Agree on Tillerson. I was thinking more along the lines of the guy who just got whacked for saying Tillerson didn’t know he’d been whacked until he saw the tweet.
Re:Pompeo,I’m sure he’ll be confirmed. Noise will be made, but the R’s will fall in line.
Mandalay
@Chip Daniels:
If that were true he’d be going after her on twitter but he hasn’t dared to say a word.
Rubio’s “small hands” jibe was pretty effective, but if there is photographic evidence to back it up Trump’s manly tough guy persona will be destroyed. I think is Trump is absolutely terrified about what she may reveal.
Roger Moore
@LAO:
As I said in my response tweet: it’s all Dunning-Kruger all the time.
SFAW
@Aleta:
No, but good bagels-and-lox are worth a snowy drive. Although G&T probably had salmon that was actually smoked, instead of brined (i.e., lox, even though lox is sometimes called “smoked salmon”).
Probably more info than you wanted.
ETA: Although, I have to confess, pumpernickel bagels — which is what G & T had, I believe — are not my fave.
TenguPhule
@eclare:
France.
The UK has alienated all their traditional allies in Europe.
Sounds eerily familiar, doesn’t it?
Corner Stone
@TenguPhule: I miss about half the threads here so I can never be sure sometimes.
eclare
@TenguPhule: Was implying the US, but not under this administration.
eric
Luckily we can sanction Russia for its rogue actions……….oh.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@WaterGirl:
I know. It is maddening. But take heart and sorrow at the same time in this simple phrase: “This too shall pass”.
WaterGirl
@trollhattan:
What an offensive, arrogant pig. This makes me want to smack the smirk off his face.
TenguPhule
@Roger Moore:
Trump found a solution to that. He convinced them that all news is either good news or Fake News.
Almost half of this country has turned rabid.
trollhattan
@eclare:
Up is down, magenta is blue, fat is fit…I have a rulebook for how the world works dated 2000 and nothing in it applies to 2018.
TenguPhule
@Corner Stone: Same here.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@TenguPhule:
Would they waste their time on leaders of liberal activist orgs for example?
Leto
@Brachiator:
“Ronald Reagan? The actor? Ha! Then whose vice president? Jerry Lewis?!” – Doc Brown
Gin & Tonic
@Aleta: Nothing special, actually, just a nice thing for breakfast when I knew I wasn’t leaving the house.
TenguPhule
@SFAW:
Smoked Chedder Cheese Bagels or go home.
TenguPhule
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: No, its cheaper and easier to bribe/frame them. And let the Purity Brigade have at it.
SiubhanDuinne
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
Looks like seven:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tie-breaking_votes_cast_by_vice_presidents_of_the_United_States
Corner Stone
@Barbara: I didn’t read the story linked in the tweet, it may have detailed amounts over time. The tweet and quoted part, IMO, led one to believe a desperate last minute effort to “pull Saccone over the line”. Plus, $10M+ of the $12M+ of the outside spend came from GOP outside groups is a Big Biden Deal.
schrodingers_cat
This is the President being in charge, according to his pet steno at the Vichy Times
SFAW
@TenguPhule:
You know, I tolerated all your “prep for civil war” etc. stuff, but now you’ve gone TOO FAR!! Pied.
No, not really, of course, but I think you might need to seek professional medical help re: your bagel choice.
The Dangerman
Trying to knock the fact that the R is going to lose the PA special election today off the front page. Or Stormy Daniels off the front page. If I were Sessions, I’d watch my back. Rosenstein, too.
SiubhanDuinne
@WaterGirl:
Jesus. That sounds like someone comforting the kids after putting down the family dog.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@SiubhanDuinne:
Jesus. More recent VPs have cast more (but not by much), but took them several more years to do.
condorcet runner-up
@Corner Stone: It’s amazing how otherwise leading and concerning stories get pushed under the fold based on the sheer volume of terrible things happening all at once.
catclub
@Corner Stone:
But apparently the first half of that big money was spent on telling people they should love their new low taxes – and that did not move the dial at all.
So the second half had to go in with the usual fear and racism and Pelosi.
We shall see.
different-church-lady
POPCORN! GET YOUR POPCORN HERE!!!
Gin & Tonic
@TenguPhule: If those are the choices, then home it is.
Fleeting Expletive
@different-church-lady: Hey, no. I’m not them, I’m an old lady who lives in OK and I’ve been here for a long time. There’s more to my tale but I thought that would be enough for today. Or are you complimenting me? If so, should I be flattered?
Corner Stone
@TenguPhule: I know.
SFAW
@schrodingers_cat:
JFC. Was that Maggot H? Or some other ass-kisser?
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@The Dangerman:
Don’t worry, that’s already been covered. It’s a “Democrat” district.
sherparick1
@schrodingers_cat: The Guiding Principle of Village Media and Faux News: IOKIYAR
Trump is replacing Tillerson with the Anti-Iran hawk Pompeo, and is supposedly planning to replace McMaster with John Bolton who is practically screaming for a war against North Korea and Iran at the same time. But when Russia actually carries out an attack on the UK, our closes ally for 100 years, its “attack, what attack, round up the usual 400 pound suspects.”
If were not all going to die in a nuclear holocaust within a year, I say pass the popcorn.
schrodingers_cat
@SFAW: It is MAGA Hagiographerman
different-church-lady
@Fleeting Expletive: Merely that I though your tale of a day full of tech problems and food-related injury was rather Cole-esque.
TenguPhule
@SFAW:
Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it with lox, cream cheese and kippers.
different-church-lady
@SiubhanDuinne: “Rex is in a better place now, honey.”
SFAW
@schrodingers_cat:
Good (and accurate) wordplay, although it doesn’t flow trippingly off the tongue.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@sherparick1:
Pass the ammunition, you mean, for after the holocaust?
schrodingers_cat
@different-church-lady: What? Putin’s hitmen got to him too?
efgoldman
OT, but: Soylent Green is real!!
Leto
@different-church-lady: I’ve got a few extra chairs in case anyone isn’t sitting down.
schrodingers_cat
@SFAW: Thanks. Is MAGA Hackerman, better?
OGLiberal
@Leto: I wouldn’t call him an oil guy. The BP stint was recent and short. He’s a PR/public affairs/corp. communication guy who worked in government (Interior) a while back during the GHWB presidency. Also worked at the WSJ, TIAA-CREF and was the head of my department a few years back at my company, an NYC-based asset manager. Kind of a strange fellow. He lasted about 2-years before he was shown the exits. I don’t know if he’s a Republican but he’s worked only for GOP admins. He’s gay, married and pretty cosmopolitan – and a former teacher – so not exactly a good fit for this crew, especially with his air cover gone. Surprised he lasted through the early AM.
TenguPhule
Wapo reporting that Roger Stone had contact with Wikileaks in 2016.
I thought this was already known?
catclub
@Fleeting Expletive:
I am thinking HDMI plug.
But yours is more humorous, I need to fix my SSH plug.
different-church-lady
@efgoldman: People are dying to try it!
Brachiator
@? Martin:
The GOP may be freaking out internally, but they don’t show any sign of standing up to Trump, or opposing him. And Trump talks about applying the drug penalty to drug dealers. He loves playing tough and talking tough. He has no problems with nominees who use torture, and will expect the Senate to rubber stamp his nominees.
Leto
@different-church-lady: It was missing a mop, mustard, and a stranded Subaru, but I could see how you’d think it was Cole.
Edit: @OGLiberal: Ah, thanks for the additional background! He does sound like a strange fellow though.
Corner Stone
As I was reminded from somebody on Rick Wilson’s twit feed:
StringOnAStick
@trollhattan: We saw him do this performance in Denver a few months ago, it was excellent. So glad we went!
ruemara
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: I honestly don’t see how this ends without a near world war. You cannot gin up insurrectionists in major nations, conduct assassinations on their soil and essentially mock them through your embassy’s social media without consequences.
SFAW
@TenguPhule:
Make up your mind. Lox, or kippers, not both. Or are you one of those turducken “gourmets”? [“One is good, so more must be better, amirite?”]
Valgame Dios de estos payasos!!
efgoldman
@Nelle:
There are always missing, potentially murdered, young blond women.
And shark attacks.
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: Yeah, it’s that bad and worse. He fires the guy and then acts like he did him a favor. I truly want to smack him. And I am not a violent person.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Brachiator:
If not because of being compromised themselves with Russia, then it is because they are between a rock and a hard place.
Betty Cracker
@TenguPhule: About a third, I think, which makes getting the apathetic off the sidelines so damned important. I fervently hope Roger is correct about the constant chaos and anxiety pulling low-info people into the process. We’ll soon see.
Corner Stone
@different-church-lady:
He’s at a friend’s farm Upstate. A place with hills and grass where he can run and play all he wants.
Fleeting Expletive
@catclub: Yeah, well, spell check wouldn’t let me keep the latter, and I don’t know one from t’other anyway. But why is the picture pink?
MomSense
ReXxon presser at 2.
GregB
@TenguPhule:
He always alleged an intermediary and not direct contact.
TenguPhule
@efgoldman:
And when all else fails, a fake Democratic scandal can always be invented.
SFAW
@schrodingers_cat:
Re: “MAGA Hackerman”
More flowing and pithy, excellent job!
I doff my figurative cap. Literally.
Corner Stone
@Leto:
Would that require one to put on pants first?
TenguPhule
@SFAW: Sorry, meant capers.
WaterGirl
.
Litlebritdifrnt
@Gin & Tonic: Sort of, Edward joined the Royal Marines but flunked out of basic training, he never wanted to serve in the first place but was pressured by Dad. He was always the more theatrical type and has done very well with those endeavours since. Joke among the Royal Marines at the time “you can turn a frog into a prince but you can’t turn a prince into a Royal Marine”. As for the others not only have they served but have actually put their lives in danger when the Queen could quite easily have intervened. Andrew in the Falklands as a helicopter pilot is one notable example and Harry in Afghanistan was another.
different-church-lady
@Corner Stone: Not as long as you buy the chair.
TenguPhule
@Brachiator:
Death. Pretty sure you meant to use death in there.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@ruemara:
They have nukes. And they have thoroughly compromised the upper echelons of several nations’ governments apparently. In a conventional war with no election shenanigans Russia would go down hard. Russia should have been made to give up its nukes when the SU collapsed. How I don’t know but they should have.
VOR
At the White House right now (clip from The Naked Gun) https://youtu.be/pdFl__NlOpA
efgoldman
@Gin & Tonic:
Didn’t I read that Duckworth will be taking maternity leave?
patrick II
@chris:
When I first read that the helmet stopped alien abductions, I though the helmet worked against I.C.E.
The Moar You Know
@Roger Moore:
Nixon
Ford
Reagan
Bush
Bush Jr.
Trump
disprove this hypothesis pretty conclusively.
TenguPhule
Completely predictable and depressing
Three guesses how this has gone and the first two don’t count.
different-church-lady
@TenguPhule:
WaterGirl
If Tillerson comes out and says, it was mutual, I wasn’t really fired, and I knew about it in advance, I swear I am going to throw a tantrum. After his second-in-command lost his job for speaking out for Tillerson, it would be a total betrayal of he does this.
But they are all pieces of shit, so why should I be surprised? I guess because if Trump shivs you, there has to be something wrong with you if you try to help Trump after he does that.
catclub
@Corner Stone:
I have zero faith in Mnuchin doing anything good. He sure seems like just a toady. Maybe he will surprise.
TenguPhule
@different-church-lady: Well played again.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@The Moar You Know:
How does Trump disprove it? He’s had consistently bad approval ratings for over a year. The others were either more competent (Nixon, Ford) or had the veneer of competence (Reagan).
SFAW
@TenguPhule:
Capers, fucking awesome. That’s for wedding receptions, bar mitzvahs, shindigs in general — but without bagels.
Sorry, you’re still an amateur. Better you should stick to politics.
catclub
@TenguPhule: And Death talks about applying the Trump penalty to drug dealers. Tweeted to insanity.
TenguPhule
“These are the times that try men’s souls.”
zhena gogolia
@Roger Moore:
Most people are ignoring all of this. All of this.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@efgoldman: San Junipero.
different-church-lady
@TenguPhule: And it’s only 2PM.
Brachiator
@TenguPhule:
Yeah. Crazy day trying to keep up with Trump.
@catclub:
Ha! Yeah, that too.
TenguPhule
Betty, pretty sure you’re obligated to have the Monty Python clip on the top when you invoke the line.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@catclub: I don’t expect anything from Mattis but some leaks about furrowed brows and another youtube of him subtweeting trump with a heartfelt talk with serving military, that trump would probably never see and definitely wouldn’t get unless Hannity or Rudi explained it to him. And I honestly don’t know if his resignation would shift the great lumpen middle, much less Congressional Republicans, out of their stupor.
chopper
@Corner Stone:
is actual suicide too much to ask?
Corner Stone
@WaterGirl: Tillerson is going to say exactly what you think he will.
“It was a great honor to serve this president and this country. Blah, buh blah, blah. Thank you all and God Bless Petro Extractors all over the world.”
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@zhena gogolia:
Evidence?
Leto
@different-church-lady: This.
@Litlebritdifrnt: William was also a search and rescue pilot. He was based out of Wales and did perform a few rescues at sea. Also did a short stint as an air ambulance pilot.
Corner Stone
He sounds like he wants to cry.
TenguPhule
@different-church-lady:
I am 4 timezones away. It’s 8 in the morning.
different-church-lady
@TenguPhule: Did you know you can watch the entirety of MP& The Holy Grail just by stringing together 4 minute YouTube segments?
cosima
I don’t know how to do those fancy block quote things that you all do, so……….. Another dead Russian in the UK:
‘In the 1990s, Glushkov worked for the state airline Aeroflot and Berezovsky’s LogoVAZ car company. In 1999, as Berezovsky fell out with Vladimir Putin and fled to the UK, Glushkov was charged with money-laundering and fraud. He spent five years in jail and was freed in 2004.’
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/russian-exile-nikolai-glushkov-found-dead-at-his-london-home/ar-BBKaJIe?ocid=spartanntp
TenguPhule
@Corner Stone: “He is the kindest and gentlest human being I know!”
TenguPhule
@different-church-lady: I did not.
SiubhanDuinne
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
I know. It’s pretty stunning.
Biden never had to break a tie in eight years.
different-church-lady
@TenguPhule: That’s good, because I made it up.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Highlight the text you want quoted and click on the “quote” button underneath “Leave a comment”
zhena gogolia
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
The world around me.
jl
I heard on the news that two administration officials either resigned or fired because they decided, or inadvertently, lie for the miserable Drumpf administration. The undersecretary of state, and an ICE official who said he would not ‘deflect’ questions about lies that Sessions and Trump told about recent ICE raids in California.
MomSense
Tillerson is freaking me out. He’s reminding his colleagues of the oath of office they all swore to uphold.
Yutsano
@Litlebritdifrnt: I will say that I massively respect Harry for defying the wishes of the Home Office (I think that’s who was having the fit about him serving in Afghanistan) and actually getting in the dirt. I know someone who actually got to work with him and he had great respect for him as both a soldier and a human. They’re both Diana’s kids, and I would LOVE it if succession could just go to William directly. Unfortunately I know it doesn’t work like that.
MomSense
@Corner Stone:
Nope he’s not. This is really interesting.
JPL
@MomSense: He is talking about the importance of diplomacy. Interesting that Trump finally called him this afternoon, and he’s turned over to the reins to Sullivan.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@zhena gogolia:
Enough people are paying attention to flip several seats in special elections.
zhena gogolia
@MomSense:
Why do I have a feeling things are coming to a head, for better or worse?
Now I’m going to try that block quote thingy Jim just taught me.
L. N. Tolstoy, War and Peace
JPL
I missed the part where he thanked Trump.. lol Thanked all of us though.
Corner Stone
@MomSense: It actually was fairly meaty. Much more nuanced than I would have ever guessed.
SiubhanDuinne
@different-church-lady:
Exactly. It was a very, very, extremely weird and very crazy way of phrasing … whatever he was actually trying to convey.
TenguPhule
via the Guardian.
Everyone is afraid of the bear.
Corner Stone
@JPL: He thanked the military a few times, though.
MomSense
@JPL:
It had to be Sullivan because trump fired Goldstein.
@zhena gogolia:
That’s how I feel, too. He didn’t mention trump once and quoted quite a bit of the oath of office. That was a highly unusual speech for a departing SoS.
smedley the uncertain
@different-church-lady: Hmmmm, I always thought the tinfoil was to keep the alien signals out, a kind of Faraday/RF shield. A wool lining would be very effective in keeping heat radiation to a minimum though.
Gin & Tonic
@Corner Stone: He did not mention the President in his closing. It was an honor to serve the American people.
Vheidi
@SiubhanDuinne: where may I send your internets?
bystander
Tillerson just sang his swan song. My hearing about matters twitleresque is selective but I think he spoke without ever mentioning twitler’s name.
Emma
@Yutsano: They would not take it if offered. They seem to love and respect their father a great deal.
ixnay
@WaterGirl: Sounds like all is going to plan -minus the barking in the crate. Sadly, sounds like spoilage is well under way.
CarolDuhart2
@efgoldman: Celebrity News and wholesale stealing from YouTube. We will have celebrity divorces covered down to the most minor detail and the most minor celebrities. YouTube stunts just for the coverage. The weddings of the most minor royals. Car crashes, car chases and car stunts. They will fill the slots.
bystander
I liked the part where Tillerson’s voice cracked as he referred to SOS-nominee Pompeo. Good stuff. :-)
Also looking forward to seeing Pompeo after Shit Midas waves his wand a few times.
JPL
@MomSense: Technically he did because he was included among the 300 million.
It appears that asshole called him to tell him to step aside now.
WaterGirl
@ixnay:
Can you explain what you mean by that?
ruemara
@zhena gogolia: Certain segments. The ones that can afford to. An overwhelming amount who can’t afford to are not going to go quietly.
Corner Stone
Hahahaha!
zhena gogolia
Poor old Bruno Ganz is going to have to prepare for a million more Untergang parodies. Or non-parodies.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@ruemara:
This.
TenguPhule
@bystander:
Pretty sure having the Pumpkin turn the fairy godmother into a rat wasn’t in the original screen play.
PaulWartenberg
What’s interesting is that, under normal circumstances a high-level Cabinet person does NOT get fired or leave that administration within the first two years. Most Secretary of States stay at that job for the full four years of their President’s first term. You only get turnover like this if the Secretary had to quit for health reasons or political scandal. Most Presidents don’t even fire such high-ranking members of their Cabinet (especially this early): it points to bad judgment on their part hiring them in the first place. This is why most Presidents talk their underlings into resigning “for the good of the country.”
Thing is, as BAD as Tillerson was at the State Dept., he wasn’t exactly breaking any laws (that we know of or can prove in court). Yes, he was mismanaging the department, downsizing it to an obscene degree, and making it harder for the US to promote any coherent foreign policy outside of “fuck you, pay trump.” But none of that was on the scale of stuff like bribery or kickbacks or illegal covert ops or even a sex scandal like paying off a porn actress you had an affair with during your third marriage to keep her silent for the 2016 election.
So for trump to fire Tillerson now, like this, with such suddenness that trump is firing other people who are pointing out how sudden and out of the blue this firing was, points to something Tillerson did that got trump angry.
And the thing Tillerson did right before getting fired was publicly making statements in support of UK Prime Minister May’s accusations of Russian assassination attempts on British soil.
So that’s where we are at.
trump is more upset about protecting his buddy Putin’s global reputation than upset about one of our most important allies of the past 100 years (CHURCHILL! D-DAY! THE BEATLES! MAGGIE! SHAKESPEAREAN ACTORS IN SUPERHERO MOVIES!) being under attack by Russian assassins.
If May cuts off all diplomatic ties with Russia, she better be prepared to cut off all ties to trump’s administrations too.
Say hello to the true end of NATO.
I hope you foreign policy Conservatives are thrilled about that.
Regnad Kcin
@low-tech cyclist: let’s not ruin a friendship over thing like that
trollhattan
@Corner Stone:
Yup. What’s he got for himself going forward: spending all that damn money he has stashed away, serving on N boards of directors to sweep up more of same and getting invited to the Best Parties. That bridge, he ain’t burning it.
eclare
@Corner Stone: I got that impression too.
TenguPhule
@PaulWartenberg:
That we know of.
The Moar You Know
@TenguPhule: They fucking well should be. Mother Russia is getting very good at targeted murder and walking away without getting caught.
ET
Is there going to be anyone left at State by the end of the month?
HeleninEire
@eclare: All of them have served. Queen Elizabeth fixed trucks during WWII. While it’s not a requirement, it’s a tradition.
ETA: Liz served when she was a Princess.
trollhattan
@The Moar You Know:
I think it’s “better” than that–they perform targeted murder in almost virtually in broad daylight and go all honey badger when someone says, “You just killed that dude in broad daylight.” They don’t give a shit.
Where do we think Trump got his line about shooting a guy on 5th Avenue?
Corner Stone
@eclare: Tillerson was clearly rattled. Whether from recently being ill or the abruptness of his termination or the realization that he was being fired because he said something negative about Russia. Or some of all of that. But he was shook.
Mart
smedley the uncertain
@chris: Clearly an alien Bot. That’ll never work. Electrostatic shielding is insufficient and may encourage electrostatic discharge between your ears.
? Martin
@TenguPhule: It was known that he used a middleman. This suggests he talked directly to Assange. That’s supposedly new.
WaterGirl
@Corner Stone: Hopefully, he will shake himself right into Mueller’s arms.
Litlebritdifrnt
@Yutsano: I think he only caved when it came some light that some twat had given away his location and his presence was therefore not only a danger to himself but to his fellow troops and that he could not tolerate, from what I understand his was seriously pissed about that. @Leto: Yes I know, from what I understand William is a great helicopter pilot, but I was pointing out the male Royals who have served in war zones as opposed to general service, although there is nothing shabby about being an SAR pilot, and believe me I knew many of them. Andrew was a friend of mine when I served in the RN (he followed me around the fleet :)) and I heard nothing but praise of his actions during the Falklands war, his commanders were told time and time again to pull him out of dangerous situations and Andrew put his foot down and said if his other pilots were doing it then so would he, he never wanted to be seen getting special favours.
eclare
@Corner Stone: Maybe he heard about the guy in the UK today….
ET
@Corner Stone: He has head of the biggest company, with the appropriate sized ego, in the world and likely treated quite well by heads of state so has likely never been treated in such a way.
MomSense
@Mart:
Yes it depends if you are blocking out the cray cray or if you are drawing it in. I can’t tell which I’m doing anymore. Three years ago, I would have considered the opinion that the POTUS is a Russian agent to be a wild conspiracy theory. Now I’m very confident that he is.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@? Martin: my understanding/assumption has been that Stone was the middleman between the trump campaign and Assange. And I think there are text messages or emails between DJTJ and a wikileaks account, if not Assange specifically? Such a shitstorm, I hope Meuller is or has a hired a good writer who lay it all out when the time comes
Litlebritdifrnt
@HeleninEire: I loved that bit in the movie where she is driving her land rover and it breaks down and she just lifts up the bonnet and starts fixing it.
TenguPhule
@MomSense: Any of us trying to explain the present to the past 3 years ago would be automatically committed to an insane asylum.
Dave
@trollhattan: We, as in the west collectively, haven’t adapted to the fact that Russia under Putin doesn’t give a shit about norms. They will get away with it until that changes. And that change will have to be extremely painful for Putin, Russian security services/organized crime (because let’s face it that’s what they are), and Russian oligarchs. Obviously Trump squatting in the Whitehouse is not helping this. And the natural class solidarity and cowardice of oligarchs worldwide isn’t helpful either. Russia under Putin is not strong but is radical and we aren’t responding to that at least not yet. These are very dangerous times.
different-church-lady
Christ, people… THE SIGNALS ARE EMBEDDED IN THE FOIL WHEN THEY MANUFACTURE IT!
HeleninEire
@SiubhanDuinne: Can you link to it? I can’t get on to Instagram unless I have a link. #luddite.
chris
@smedley the uncertain: Thanks, I was always dubious about the engineering but the earflaps are very useful today.
trollhattan
@Dave:
Completely agree and if Trump-Putin continue eroding NATO I only see the danger ratcheting up further. It does not help one bit that Bannon and his henchmen are simultaneously flouncing across Europe stirring up the Nazis with some success.
What could possibly go wrong?
ETA Remember when Bush the Lesser “Looked into” Putin’s heart and was thus impressed by his new friend? We can’t forget Trump isn’t the first Republican to drop his guard against the new Russia.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@ET: yeah, I was thinking today that trump hired him because he, trump, wanted to surround himself with Masters Of the Universe, the kind he knows have always looked down on him, and it’s pretty clear Tillerson did look down on the fucking moron, and probably thought he and Mattis and Mnuchin would run the world while trump gave incoherent speeches to the sort of people one barely condescends to nod to as they perform the menial tasks for which they are overpaid. A lot of people thought that. And now he’s been tossed aside like a used Kleenex by (to borrow Josh Marshall’s phrase that is zipping around twitter) a louche, two-bit New York City shyster, who isn’t even (to borrow Andrew Carnegie’s legendary phrase about J.P. Morgan) a wealthy man.
randy khan
@HeleninEire:
One of my favorite British stories from WWII is how the entire Royal Family stayed – there was a proposal to move Elizabeth’s mother and the children to Canada, and her mother said, more or less that the children wouldn’t go without her and that she wouldn’t leave her husband, so everyone was staying. Very British, very stiff upper lip.
different-church-lady
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
He’s rich with embarrassment.
Elizabelle
@HeleninEire: Not instagram, but Daily Mail UK had some good photos. (Yes, not that credible a source, but good photos.)
Would only be better if it was a beagle. Was a spaniel.
eclare
@HeleninEire: Here you go. Not Instgram, just googled.
WaterGirl
@HeleninEire: I googled “instagram theroyalfamily” and it came right up.
Just like I can see twitter in a web browser by googling “twitter preet” or something of that nature.
? Martin
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: No, previously it was Trump -> Stone -> Credico -> Assange. Stone has denied ever talking to Assange, and said that the information communicated through a 3rd party (now identified as Credico). This news is that Credico wasn’t always involved, and that Stone and Assange did communicate directly. That eliminates Stone’s ability to claim he didn’t know where it came from, etc. or that Assange didn’t know who he was giving it to.
More specifically, it’s more concentrated lying around the issue of the DNC hack, where you have the Trump campaign being offered the hacked info both directly from Russia and from Assange. Their ability to claim they had nothing to do with it keeps getting undermined. The fact that everyone keeps lying about it only points to the fact that the individuals involved know that they’re in trouble.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
ETA: Tillserson’s father worked for the Boy Scouts of America. Trump’s disgusting speech to the jamboree was said to be a low point for him. My sympathy is limited, anyone should have known what they were signing on for.
Adria McDowell
@randy khan: “The children will not go without me, and I will not leave, and the King will never leave.”
Something like that.
ETA: Here it is! “The children won’t go without me. I won’t leave without the King. And the King will never leave.”
raven
@eclare: Looks like Lil Bit!!!!
GregB
Manafort’s judge tells him he may spend the rest of his life in jail.
Enjoy the baloney sandwiches Paul.
MomSense
@different-church-lady:
Hahaha!!
eclare
@raven: Sweet!
? Martin
@GregB: Federal pens are pretty safe for inmates. Baloney sandwiches are probably better than eating nerve gas.
Ben Cisco
@catclub: Maueve has the most RAM.
trollhattan
Russia, the gift that keeps grifting.
Ms. Vashukevich, meet Ms. Daniels. Let’s do talk.
WaterGirl
@GregB: Let’s see if that changes Manafort’s tune. Heartening to see the judge saying what he said in no uncertain terms.
david
Thank God it’s Friday.
danielx
@trollhattan:
As I recall, Dubya said he looked into Putin’s eyes and saw his soul*, which Putin dismissed as sentimentalist horseshit.
*Presuming he had a soul, as an ex-KGB colonel it would probably be a damned ugly sight..
TenguPhule
@GregB: What gets me is that the judge is POINTING OUT that he’s a serious fucking flight risk and the fucker is still only under HOUSE ARREST.
Normal people aren’t given the kind of opportunities these fuckers get even when they’re fucking arrested and being tried.
TenguPhule
@danielx:
Assumes soul not already sold to the Devil.
TenguPhule
@david: But its only Tuesday.
different-church-lady
@TenguPhule: In your timeline, perhaps.
Jay S
@Fleeting Expletive:
a bad connection or bad cable. Given that unplugging and plugging it back int worked it is most likely a bad connection, not completely plugged in.
Mnemosyne
@TenguPhule:
If you knew that a dozen people that Russia didn’t like had been killed in the UK, would you risk putting Manafort into a US jail in NYC, where the Russian mob is very active?
SiubhanDuinne
@randy khan:
The other story I love from those days is after Buckingham Palace was bombed. The King and Queen were surveying the damage, and Queen Elizabeth (later the Queen Mother) said “Now I can look the East End in the face!”
scott (the other one)
@trollhattan: And the thing is…I really truly don’t see how the Koch Bros et al see how this ends well for their bloodline, should things really truly go south. Or, at the very least, they’re taking some very dangerous bets, when they could just be happy, you know, being 80 years old and with billions of dollars more than they’d ever be able to spend no matter how hard they try.
zhena gogolia
@TenguPhule:
But I saw it all on the night of Nov. 7, 2016. I lay in bed shaking and saying to my husband, “I don’t want to see it. I don’t want to live through what he’s going to do.” I didn’t see the details, but I knew it was going to be BAD.
? Martin
@TenguPhule: Normal people can’t take down a president.
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne:
I’d want him in a federal prison rather then risk 1) him running or 2) Putin’s agents dealing with him at home.
James E. Powell
@Dave:
“L’audace, l’audace, toujours l’audace.”
SiubhanDuinne
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
“Bow, bow, ye lower middle classes“
TenguPhule
@scott (the other one):
i don’t think they really care. They seem to be IGMFYA and really do seem to believe the world will end when they die, so fuck everyone else afterwards.
Aleta
@SFAW: tmi about salmon? not at all!
I can recommend (if you have good bagels) the incredible
lox from Ducktrap. It’s from wild salmon, cold smoked and seasoned, + some cane juice, fired w/ hardwood and apple wood from in-state.
Can be ordered directly from the Ducktrap company. I think the label may read as ‘wild smoked salmon.’ It’s lox, tender and delicate.
Another package that (I think) they label as ‘wild salmon’ is also cold smoked, but not lox. It’s more intense, deeper color, gamey in the good way. I like it in bits in scrambled eggs too, and it lasts a long time that way.
If you have a recommendation, I’m always interested.
eta Agree that w/lox, pumpernickel bagels are overpowering.
I like them but they should be classified differently than some other bagels.
SiubhanDuinne
@HeleninEire:
I don’t have an Instagram account either but I googled Instagram theroyalfamily and as if by magic:
https://www.instagram.com/theroyalfamily/?hl=en
catclub
@trollhattan:
It is not at all clear how that gets them arrested in Thailand.
James E. Powell
Reposting this from a dead thread:
Schumer tweets:
Lame remarks like this are one of the reasons that even insanely loyal Democrats, like me, are constantly bitching about the leadership. How about, “Like nearly all of Trump’s cabinet choices, Pompeo is not a suitable choice. He has neither the experience nor the character to represent America.”
They need to condemn him, vote to reject him, and make a loud noise about it. It’s not like kissing his ass or giving him the benefit of the doubt is going to do anyone any good.
Mnemosyne
@TenguPhule:
IANAL, but I’m pretty sure you’re not allowed to put an accused criminal in federal prison. Convicted, yes. Accused, no.
Aleta
@Aleta: Wait, the Ducktrap New York Style Nova is at the top though I haven’t compared them directly. They lightly cold smoke all their lox after brining I think.
ixnay
@WaterGirl: oh,just that Henry is getting his way, i.e. being spoiled. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
SFAW
@Aleta:
Wow, thanks for all the good lox (etc.) info.
For “regular” lox, outside of a place — the name of which I can’t remember — on Middle Neck Road in Great Neck, not much. When I was a wee bairn, I think we used to get lox from Tabachnick’s (also on Middle Neck Road), but that’s just a guess.
No Drought No More
If by chance anyone named Fegelein is currently working anywhere within the Trump administration, I’d advise that person to leave now, while the leaving is good..
SFAW
@Mnemosyne:
Maybe someone should accuse Jarvanka and Uday/Qusay, and try it out as a test case? Especially if that Federal prison is in some “black” site. Couldn’t hurt.
Aleta
Glushkov has died. This is so sad, I’m so upset for his suffering and for the fear in Britain.
MomSense
@Aleta:
Everything from Ducktrap is delicious.
For the non bagel eating people this is a yummy treat or hours d’oevres for a party.
Thinly sliced cucumbers
Cut lox into thin strips
Mix cream cheese fresh lemon juice, lemon zest, fresh dill, and black pepper together.
Then assemble a cucumber slice with a thin layer of cream cheese mixture. Twist the salmon into a little roll. I like to put a little spring of dill and a caper on the top. You can skip the caper or add a thin slice of green onion.
They are really pretty and tasty.
The Simp in the Suit
@? Martin:
Toh-may-toh, toh-mah-toh.
Kathleen
@schrodingers_cat: AKA “OfTrump”.
catclub
@MomSense:
except their broken website
Gin & Tonic
@MomSense:
I’ll always remember the line from Nick Danger, “stuffed, like an anchovy, with last night’s capers.”
Gin & Tonic
@SFAW: The best, both smoked and brined, is, of course, from Russ & Daughters.
MomSense
@catclub:
We are in the middle of a whiteout blizzard. It worked last week.
@Gin & Tonic:
We could use Firesign Theater now.
geg6
@catclub:
Can’t remember where I read about this woman (Slate maybe?), but apparently she was plying her trade without authority or something. She claims to be some sort of “sex coach” or something. She does seem terrified for her life, so I hope someone comes through for her.
Elie
@MomSense:
So is the salmon wrapped around the cucumber and cream cheese mixture like a jelly roll? Sounds delicious!
Feebog
@MomSense:
That sounds incredibly delish. And for the record, lox and cream cheese should be served on salt bagels. Capers optional.
PST
@Gin & Tonic:
I tried to have lunch at the cafe there the day before yesterday while visiting NYC. The wait was over an hour and a half on a cold Sunday afternoon. They must have the best.
Gelfling 545
@SiubhanDuinne: Jennifer Rubin’s headline: Trump Puts Tillerson Out Of His Misery.
joel hanes
@Gin & Tonic:
What’s the birdseye lowdown on this caper? (whatever that means)
a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)
@Fleeting Expletive: Stealth takeover by the Susan G, Komen Foundation?
joel hanes
@MomSense:
We could use Firesign
I know it’s not what you mean, but youtube has much of it,
and Amazon has most of the albums, in your choice of download, streaming, CD, or vinyl.
The way things are going, I expect that the next President will be named either Tirebiter or Schickelgruber
opiejeanne
@Gin & Tonic: And so did the Queen serve during WWII.
Steve in the ATL
@joel hanes:
You are a sneaky one
leeleeFL
@different-church-lady: @Davis X. Machina: I heard that in Brandi’s voice!
Tehanu
@joel hanes:
Tirebiter would be a definite improvement over Dump. Besides, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if the Drumpf family actually has some Schickelgrubers in their family tree.