Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

No one could have predicted…

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

The GOP is a fucking disgrace.

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

I did not have this on my fuck 2022 bingo card.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.

There are consequences to being an arrogant, sullen prick.

The party of Reagan has become the party of Putin.

He really is that stupid.

You cannot shame the shameless.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.

Nothing worth doing is easy.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

Just because you believe it, that doesn’t make it true.

Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact

Reality always lies in wait for … Democrats.

Fuck the extremist election deniers. What’s money for if not for keeping them out of office?

“And when the Committee says to “report your income,” that could mean anything!

I didn’t have alien invasion on my 2023 BINGO card.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

Bark louder, little dog.

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The speech where Trump made the comment about lying to Justin Trudeau was in support of Josh Hawley, who’s running against Claire McCaskill:

The president was in Missouri to raise money for Josh Hawley, who is taking on incumbent Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill in November’s election. He called McCaskill “bad for Missouri and bad for the country.” But he barely spoke about Hawley. Instead, he talked about Trump — even bragging about his 2016 election win — and lavished praise on himself while ticking through a list of U.S. allies that he said were actually taking advantage of the United States.

It makes sense to have Trump in town a few months before the election to raise some cash. And I’ll be the first to note that McCaskill has an uphill battle in Missouri, where Trump got 57% of the vote. But do you think having Trump around will help later in the year? I’ll be interested in seeing McCaskill’s approach to handling that. She’s going to want some Trump voters to vote for her, so she’ll have to tread somewhat lightly, but even in Missouri there’s got to be a way to tie a Trump boat anchor around Hawley’s neck.

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  2. 2.

    jeffreyw

    She should warn her voters that Trump wants to drop bowling balls on their car hoods. Hailstorm? Hell that would be a Trumstorm! We do not want!

  3. 3.

    Aimai

    I think she should say “missourians didn’t vote for a buffoon—they got one in trump but that is not what they wanted. [of course they did want trump but its important to give people away to climb back off the ledge.]

  5. 5.

    Politically Lost

    Good thing that she just helped herself immensely by voting for the reform of Dodd – Frank. I’m sure she shored up her support amongst her base.

  7. 7.

    SFAW

    But do you think having Trump around will help later in the year?

    Well, according to RNC spokesbot Somethingsomething Mac-a-Ninny, whom I heard on NPR this AM, it was due to Trump, and Trump alone, that Saccone beat “running-as-a-Demonrat-but-is-actually-a-Republican-honest-would-I-lie-to-you? Conor Lamb,” even though Saccone did not embrace Trump, other than in every meaningful way.
    Or something.

    So, with Shitgibbon’s help, it seems pretty likely that Hawley will get 137 percent of the vote.

    I swear, if any of those lying motherfuckers had any sense of honor, the next growth “industry” would be for kaishakunin.

    ETA: And thanks to NPR for giving a soapbox for those sterling souls who are helping the economically-anxious WWC, etc.

  8. 8.

    Central Planning

    I think she should be saying “Dolt 45 admits to making shit up. He’s so stupid, the stuff he makes up is always wrong. Do you want someone who is going to enable the White House Liar?”

  9. 9.

    Betty Cracker

    McCaskill’s a wily operator — she played the moron the GOP put up against her last time like a fiddle. I wouldn’t bet against her this time either, even though it’s a deep red state and her opponent isn’t as obvious a crackpot as the last one.

    I wonder how consequential Trump’s admission will be in other trade negotiations. I mean, he’s a pathological liar, so the fact that he lied is no surprise to anyone. But Trump’s whole shtick is centered on being a great negotiator, much smarter and more street-savvy than the metrosexuals who’ve been negotiating trade deals and giving away the store. And he just admitted he doesn’t have a fucking clue what he’s talking about.

    That won’t matter to his brain-dead supporters, of course. But if I were a negotiator for another country, I’d be licking my chops at the prospect of going up against this dummy. We’ll all suffer the consequences of being represented by this moron. Buy your cheap electronics while you can!

  12. 12.

    geg6

    Every single fucking Dem should take a look at what Lamb did and do the same. Which means every one of them needs a message about how Democrats specifically address the issues that are local and pressing to them. Stay consistent with Democratic values such as supporting Social Security and Medicare, health care and the ACA, gun control issues that everyone but the NRA and their lackeys support, support for unions and working people, education, infrastructure, etc. Little of that is controversial and most of it is wildly popular. No need to engage them on their stupid culture war garbage, just keep positive and stay focused on a message of fairness and opportunity for everyone. That’s exactly what Lamb did and look where that got him.

  13. 13.

    Elizabelle

    @geg6: This is true.

    Could even point out: the GOP is going to try to divide you with the culture war stuff; ignore that: eye on the prize. They’re coming for your earned benefits — Social Security and Medicare. Look who made out like bandits from the tax cuts, which passed without a single Democratic vote. It was not you.

  14. 14.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    When trump was winning by ten, Roy Blount, incumbent, only won by three. McCaskill’s got a tough row to hoe, but she’s smart and knows her state.

  15. 15.

    eclare

    @geg6: Agree, keep it simple. Democrats think you should have healthcare and think you should not be shot in church, in school, at the movies, etc.

  17. 17.

    lumpkin

    President of the US plays the fool in front of another better and vastly smarter leader and brags about it. I am ashamed of my country.

  18. 18.

    Washburn

    @trnc:
    Moderate her position on gun control, distance herself from Nancy Pelosi, and go after everyone’s vote as opposed to concentrating on getting votes of a particular minority?

    Yep, sounds like a path to victory

  20. 20.

    Kay

    Ha, ha, because making up things is so great and mavericky!

    Not knowing anything or doing any preparation or work is so …American! All those chumps who study stuff and work hard- who needs people like that?

    What we need are more ignorant loudmouths who were so fucking coddled and protected for whole lives that they are convinced they’re smartest guys in the room. Absolutely. More of that. Dumber. Lazier. More entitled.

  21. 21.

    raven

    Pence is going to Savannah for St Paddy’s and doing for it what the Cheeto did for the National Championship

    Vice President Mike Pence is coming to Savannah for St. Patrick’s Day.
    And so are tighter restrictions.
    At a press conference on Wednesday, the city announced that the Secret Service will control a 12-block “enhanced security zone” extending from Bay Street to Oglethorpe Avenue between Whitaker and Drayton streets.
    A number of items – including folding chairs, coolers, backpacks, purses, tents and alcoholic beverages – will not be allowed to enter the controlled zone.
    The selling and consumption of alcohol will still be permitted within the control zone, but only in to-go cups provided by the bars and restaurants within its borders.
    City spokeswoman Michelle Gavin said residents who live inside the perimeter of the zone will be able to take drinks outside of their homes, but only in to-go cups.
    Pence will arrive on Air Force Two at Georgia Air National Guard at 10 a.m. Saturday, according to a White House official speaking on background.

  22. 22.

    Kay

    And what a great position to go in as a “dealmaker”!

    Where everyone in the room knows more than you do!

    That’s mavericky GENIUS. All those chumps who prepare- that’s for losers.

  23. 23.

    Lapassionara

    @Elizabelle: This. The Republicans want to eliminate SS and Medicare as we know them. With Trump in the WH, they will get their way unless the Dems stop them.

    I don’t think it will hurt McCaskill that the current R Governor has proven himself to be a sleaze.

  25. 25.

    Kay

    If Canada cleans the clock of the low quality, lazy Trump team on trade can we admit it’s because they prepared?

    Or is that unamerican?

  26. 26.

    O. Felix Culpa

    @Kay:

    And what a great position to go in as a “dealmaker”!

    Where everyone in the room knows more than you do!

    That’s mavericky GENIUS. All those chumps who prepare- that’s for losers.

    You slay me. All those years I wasted developing expertise. Going forward: less preparedness, more empty-headedness! It’s the American way!

  27. 27.

    rikyrah

    Another official departed the West Wing last week under similar, if less ominous, circumstances. Justin Caporale, first lady Melania Trump’s director of operations, resigned due to issues with his security clearance, according to a source familiar with the matter. A spokesperson for the first lady declined to comment on Caporale’s departure.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-moves-to-remake-his-team-with-loyalists-cable-news-stars-and-killers

    Think on that. REALLY think on that.
    You don’t have one.
    You don’t have two.
    You don’t have three.
    YOU HAVE DOZENS OF PEOPLE WHO THE FBI SAYS, NOPE, THESE MUTHAPHUCKAS DON’T CLEAR THE THRESHOLD FOR A SECURITY CLEARANCE.

    Their muthaphuckin’ WHITE ARROGANCE in:
    1. The WH who keeps these people on
    2. The actual people who can’t pass the clearance who don’t have two ounces of humility to say ‘ maybe I shouldn’t be in a job that I can’t get a Security Clearance for’.

    THE DANGER TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY IS OBVIOUS.

    TRAITORS ALL.

  28. 28.

    rikyrah

    Adam Schiff: ‘Had a Russian nerve agent been used on…our country, could we count on our Prez?’

    Source: RawStory

    Adam Schiff: ‘Had a Russian nerve agent been used on someone in our country, could we count on on our President?’

    DAVID EDWARDS
    15 MAR 2018 AT 10:17 ET

    House Intelligence Committee ranking member Adam Schiff (D-CA) on Thursday wondered whether President Donald Trump would speak out against Russia if it used chemical warfare to attack someone in the U.S.

    In a message posted to Twitter, Schiff said that he was unsure how Trump would handle a poisoning like the one in London, where Vladimir Putin has been accused of using a banned nerve agent to attack a former spy who turned against Russia.

    During remarks earlier in the week, Trump had promised to condemn Russia or “whoever it is” if the U.S. agrees with the British government’s assessment of the attack. Other members of Trump’s administration — like UN Ambassador Nikki Haley — have offered a more full-throated condemnation of Russia.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/adam-schiff-russian-nerve-agent-used-someone-country-count-president/

  30. 30.

    rikyrah

    Trump; Pennsylvania Dem won because he’s ‘like Trump’
    03/15/18 08:40 AM—UPDATED 03/15/18 08:45 AM
    By Steve Benen
    Ahead of this week’s congressional special election in Pennsylvania, Republicans insisted that Conor Lamb (D) was a liberal Democrat who had no business representing a conservative district that backed Donald Trump by a 20-point margin. After Lamb’s apparent victory, GOP leaders decided they no longer agreed with their own talking points.

    The Republican National Committee insisted that Lamb “essentially” ran as a Republican. A White House spokesperson said the Democrat “really embraced the president’s policies and his vision.”

    As The Atlantic reported, Trump went a little further while reflecting on the race yesterday at a private fundraiser in Missouri.

    “The young man last night that ran, he said, ‘Oh, I’m like Trump. Second Amendment, everything. I love the tax cuts, everything.’ He ran on that basis,” Trump said. “He ran on a campaign that said very nice things about me. I said, ‘Is he a Republican? He sounds like a Republican to me.’”

    Look, I realize that the president, by his own admission, occasionally makes stuff up, but the GOP spin on Pennsylvania’s special election is getting more than a little silly.

  31. 31.

    Ella in New Mexico

    Yes, well while we’re all having fun times mocking Beloved Leader Kaos Von Punkinschlong, is anybody else here fucking terrified at the prospect of Scot Pruitt being appointed as acting USAG after Trump fires Sessions today?

  34. 34.

    NYCMT

    I’m hoarding my son’s poopy diapers in a particularly noxious stretch of diaper genie awful sausage for an emergency ride out to Massapequa and Pete King’s main office if Mueller gets fired. (no I’m not but dammit)

  35. 35.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @geg6: doesn’t have to be, trump got a judicial ruling on the Vacancies Act that lets him name an acting cabinet official who’s already been confirmed for another office– see Mulvaney at OMB and CPFB. He knows Congress won’t do anything.

  36. 36.

    rikyrah

    Charleston Shooter Dylann Roof’s Sister Morgan to Protesting Classmates: ‘I Hope…Y’All Get Shot’

    Morgan Roof, the younger sister of the Charleston shooter Dylann Roof, was arrested after taking two weapons to school and posting to Snapchat that she hoped students protesting against gun violence in a nationwide walkout “get shot.”

    Roof, 18, showed up at A.C. Flora High School in South Carolina with a knife, pepper spray, and marijuana. She faces weapons and drugs charges. A judge released Roof on a $5,000 bond but ordered her to stay away from her school.

    Though she faced no charges relating to her Snapchat post, it did cause alarm, reported WIS-TV.

    In her post, Roof wrote: “Your walking out for the allowed time of 17 min, they are letting you do this, nothing is gonna change what tf you think it’s gonna do? I hope it’s a trap and y’all get shot we know it’s fixing to be nothing but black people walkin out anyway…No offense ofc buuut.”

  38. 38.

    Ella in New Mexico

    @geg6: they say that by putting him in as “Acting AG”, he needs no Senate hearing as he was already confirmed as EPA Director.

  39. 39.

    rikyrah

    HUH?

    Nobel prize winner hospitalized, wife found deceased in Illinois

    A Japanese Nobel-winning chemist was discovered wandering in rural Northern Illinois and his wife found dead nearby, some nine hours after they had been reported missing from their home 200 miles away, police said on Wednesday.

    Nobel Prize winner Ei-ichi Negishi, 82, was transported to a local hospital for treatment after he was spotted walking near Rockford, Illinois, at 5 a.m. on Tuesday, the Ogle County Sheriff’s Department officials said in a written statement.

    Deputies later found the couple’s car and the body of his wife, Sumire Negishi, at the nearby Ochard Hills Landfill, the sheriff’s department said. Rockford is about 100 miles west of Chicago.

    An autopsy was pending on the body of Sumire Negishi but foul play was not suspected in her death, the sheriff’s department said. No information was released on the condition of Ei-Ichi Negishi.

  44. 44.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @rikyrah: As Democrats have mostly learned by now, it doesn’t pay to try to be Republican light, because if people want a Republican, they’ll vote for the Republican. But logic has never been Trump’s strong suit.

    YOU HAVE DOZENS OF PEOPLE WHO THE FBI SAYS, NOPE, THESE MUTHAPHUCKAS DON’T CLEAR THE THRESHOLD FOR A SECURITY CLEARANCE.

    In places where I’ve worked that required clearance, I never once heard of an applicant who the background investigators thought was unable to pass the checks. Sure stuff comes up, such as foreign contacts if you have any kind of well-traveled life. But those can almost always be cleared up.

    What is it about the pool they’re hiring from that so many have issues that prevent them from getting clearance? Where the hell are they recruiting?

  47. 47.

    Baud

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    As Democrats have mostly learned by now, it doesn’t pay to try to be Republican light, because if people want a Republican, they’ll vote for the Republican.

    You realize that Lamb is moderate to conservative on various issues. If he had lost he would have been called Republican light.

  48. 48.

    Elizabelle

    @Ella in New Mexico: What are you looking at that is worrying you so?

    Yesterday, Conor Lamb won election and students marched for gun control. Trolls gonna troll and change the subject.

    Don’t be so terrified.

  50. 50.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Baud: I realize he threaded a moderate needle to some extent. For instance, he stated that he’s personally opposed to abortion. But he also came out firmly pro-choice. He has no interest in restricting YOUR access to abortion.

    That’s not a conservative position.

  51. 51.

    Elizabelle

    @Matt McIrvin: I don’t think we should let the media or pundits do the labeling game.

    Conor Lamb is clearly a Democrat, who espouses many issues near and dear to Democrats.

    Just because bloviators say something, we don’t need to jump or take them seriously. They are proven the last to know, time and again.

  52. 52.

    Baud

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    I’m thrilled he won, but he did not win as a lefty progressive, is all I’m saying, and for many people, that would be considered Republican lite, if they were being consistent about labels.

  54. 54.

    Eural Joiner

    @rikyrah:
    That’s the school I teach in – in fact, Morgan was in my government/econ class until yesterday! Interesting watching all of this unfold in national and international news outlets. Lots of very wild exaggeration, speculation and misinformation. Our school and district administration has responded very quickly and we’ve got lots of extra security and leadership presence around the school today. Very surreal!!

  57. 57.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    @raven:

    Well, shit. I’m flying to Savannah Saturday morning to spend time with father-in-law at Hilton Head. I’m sure it’ll screw up my flight.

  59. 59.

    Amir Khalid

    Having Trump in town might help with raising campaign funds. But it sure hasn’t helped people to vote for the Republican candidate. Trump shows up and then talks about himself, treating the local candidate as an afterthought: “Oh, by the way, vote for this guy. There, I’m done.” And his haste to distance himself from Republicans who don’t win will not have been lost on his party, or on the more awake of its voters. At some point, I think someone is going to tell him to his face, “You know what, Mr. President? You should just stay away.”

  60. 60.

    NorthLeft12

    Speaking as a Canadian, I really don’t give a shit what Deadbeat Donald says about our PM or our country in general. Every time he opens his foamy gob the reputation and respect for the US around the world continues to slide down.
    I believe even in the US [sorry for how that sounds] most people understand that his insults and bragging reflect more poorly on him and his supporters than on his targets.
    Very sad.

  62. 62.

    O. Felix Culpa

    @Baud::

    he did not win as a lefty progressive, is all I’m saying, and for many people, that would be considered Republican lite

    True, if those “many people” are Wilmerites. What I’m seeing among self-anointed “progressives” in local politics is that their positions and chosen candidates substitute ardor for logic and coherence. They’re trying to torpedo all Dems who are not them. Who needs Republican ratfvckery when you have these purists to do the work?

  65. 65.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @NorthLeft12: Oh, we understand. And if other Americans are like me, we just hope that people around the world: (a) understand that the American people are (mostly) different from the people currently holding power in America and (b) we did vote for Obama. Twice. So we got that going for us.

    I don’t know how long it is going to take to rebuild our government and our international relationship when we get these people out of there. There’s still enough of my basically optimistic nature enough to be certain that we WILL get them out of there. I just hope there’s enough left in the rubble to build on.

  70. 70.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Heh! I was over prepared for my citizenship test. Husband kitteh was making fun of me, but I got all my questions right and he flubbed one because of the exam jitters that set in since he didn’t prepare as much. (You have to get 6 questions right out of the 10 they ask you). Being overprepared makes you less nervous at the time it really matters.

  71. 71.

    Ella in New Mexico

    @schrodingers_cat: I’m sorry to poop on your parade ? But seriously, Pruit is a corrupt, dark religious fanatic who believes he’s on a mission from God and will be all too willing to do whatever it takes to keep Trump in power. And the things he would be able to do would be devastating for the Republic, starting with but not limited to, shutting down the Mueller investigation. Given we’d have absolutely no oversight or pushback from Congress, this could be the soft coup we never thought could happen here.

    But hey, I guess I’ll just worry about it if it happens. Why ruin my last few days of freedom in the United States…

  72. 72.

    Baud

    @bemused senior:

    For those in earlier threads who were tempted to believe GG regarding Dianne Feinstein’s position on the confirmation of Haspel for CIA Director: her information request find another blog.

    Fixed.

  75. 75.

    Elizabelle

    @Amir Khalid: As a people, I would not fly United.

    I think they’re in a LOT of trouble. And that it’s not believable the flight attendant did not think a pet was in the pet carrier s/he insisted be stuffed in the overhead bin. Will be interesting what nearby passengers have to say about that.

    Haven’t been on UAL for probably 30 years now, and won’t ever again. There are other and better airlines.

  78. 78.

    O. Felix Culpa

    @Baud:

    To my knowledge, they didn’t try that with Lamb

    I’m not aware of them doing that to him either. WRT Pelosi, funny how both RWNJs and Wilmerites like to demonize women, especially Democratic women.

    What I’m seeing locally is that they’re trying to reprise the Wilmer playbook from 2016: any losses they have are due to “corruption” and “rigging;” never mind that their candidate didn’t have a compelling message and couldn’t organize his way out of a paper bag. It’s wearisome.

    Edited.

  79. 79.

    Yarrow

    @schrodingers_cat: OT – I finally got to see “The Lunchbox” the other day. Really enjoyed it. Particularly appreciated Irrfan Khan’s performance. I’m guessing you’ve seen it?

  81. 81.

    Elizabelle

    @Ella in New Mexico: Maybe you were snarking, but sometimes, Ella, you have got to just turn it off. Step away.

    We are in a marathon. Do what you can, but don’t go looking for horror. It makes you less effective, very honestly.

  82. 82.

    rikyrah

    @geg6:

    Every single fucking Dem should take a look at what Lamb did and do the same. Which means every one of them needs a message about how Democrats specifically address the issues that are local and pressing to them. Stay consistent with Democratic values such as supporting Social Security and Medicare, health care and the ACA, gun control issues that everyone but the NRA and their lackeys support, support for unions and working people, education, infrastructure, etc. Little of that is controversial and most of it is wildly popular. No need to engage them on their stupid culture war garbage, just keep positive and stay focused on a message of fairness and opportunity for everyone. That’s exactly what Lamb did and look where that got him.

    NOTHING BUT TRUTH.
    SIMPLE TRUTH.

  88. 88.

    O. Felix Culpa

    @Baud: Thanks. I think (hope) we’ll be fine, but there’s oodles of Koch money flowing into the state and we now need to fight on two fronts, thanks to the “progressives.” My sense is that they’re a fringe, but they sure make a lot of noise and stir the pot incessantly. I have to learn to tune them out for my own sanity’s sake (what little is left of it, anyhow).

  90. 90.

    Ian G.

    @NorthLeft12:

    I’m guessing Trump seethes with resentment at Trudeau since Justin is young, good-looking, charismatic, fits in with high society and Hollywood types, and (perhaps most importantly) didn’t face-plant despite the immense privilege he was born into and end up flushing Pierre’s money down the toilet on failed business deals and various petty scams.

  91. 91.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Yarrow: Loved that movie. For plot purposes they had to invent the delivery mixup, but it’s my understanding that in fact those guys have never screwed up a lunch delivery in something like a century of operation. And the line about being studied by Harvard was true.

    I also loved the upstairs Aunty, who can tell you’ve put too much cumin or whatever from her window a floor above yours.

  92. 92.

    Hitless

    @Kay: sadly, I think the “I know stuff without having to learn it” story will play well with a lot of people in the US. People like to believe their ‘common sense’ makes them smarter than these university educated liberals. Trump’s story shows that what he believed on the basis of no evidence was actually true and that idiot fancy boy and his “facts” were wrong. It’s a story that captured the spirit of our country and time quite well.

  93. 93.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Elizabelle:

    This is even a different story. United mixed up two dogs, shipped one to Oregon (I think — I skimmed the article) and the other to Japan. Each to the other’s intended destination. A couple of days after the dead pug in the overhead bin.

    I’m getting very fucking tired of their repeated “Oops, heh heh, our bad.”

  94. 94.

    Yarrow

    @O. Felix Culpa: “Progressives” and “the left” are also being spurred on and manipulated by Russia. They’re playing both sides. Expect more action in that area on the left in the 2018 election since that’s where the real energy will be.

    I don’t know how to educate people about the fact that it is possible that some of the stuff they read or see isn’t fully true and that they can be manipulated by it but doing so has to be part of the way forward. Other countries are teaching critical thinking to counteract propaganda. We are not.

  95. 95.

    Baud

    @Hitless:

    People like to believe their ‘common sense’ makes them smarter than these university educated liberals.

    To be really successful, you need both, and some educated liberals do lack common sense. But, yeah, too many people think it’s either/or.

  96. 96.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Yarrow: He is in Gangs of Wasseypur too, which is on my must-watch list. Its Anurag Kashyap’s ode to the two Godfather movies set in the mining country of Bihar. Siddiqui plays a Pacino like character, the reluctant but ruthless don.

  97. 97.

    Ella in New Mexico

    @schrodingers_cat: what the fuck does that mean? I switched to Clinton before the primary ended and wholeheartedly supported her in the General. Must be your enemies list is out of date.

    Wow. Just wow. Guess this explains why every single response you make to me is negative and way out of proportion. You DO know that flaming the Sanders v Clinton flame wars was the sole occupation for something like 50,000 Russian Troll-bots, right? Is there a reason you feel a need to continue their dirty work?

    Jesus H. Christ, Lighten the Fuck Up, Frances.

  99. 99.

    Elizabelle

    @SiubhanDuinne: Hey there.

    Oh yeah, heard about the dog to Narita story. (And Irgo is being flown back on a charter.) Have we heard how the greyhound fared? (Is it in Wichita? I can’t keep up.)

    United has got some serious problems with how it treats both its two-footed and four-footed passengers.

    It’s mostly famous for its executives making out like bandits with their compensation. Thankfully, we have other airlines.

  101. 101.

    jonas

    I won’t pretend to know anything about Missouri politics — other than that it can be bugnuts craaaaazy sometimes — but the Trump that won the state in 2016 was the flamboyant, politically incorrect billionaire business tycoon who was going to “drain the swamp,” MAGA, etc. The Trump stumping for candidates in 2017 is the irrational, incompetent, childish buffoon we’ve all come to know and despise . Sure, his hardcore base still loves the bigotry and liberal-trolling that Trump has raised to an art form, but a lot of independents and not a few self-described conservatives have to be getting pretty damn tired of this schtick. And I also don’t imagine that the average Missourian is going to see a huge windfall from the tax cut, either.

  102. 102.

    Ella in New Mexico

    @Elizabelle: the tone of my comment was exaggerated with a bit of dark political humor. Sorry people missed that. Still gonna maintain my long view, but this cabal does things no on ever thought a sitting American President and Congress would do. Forgive my hypervigilence—I come from a long line of pessimists ?

  103. 103.

    lgerard

    “The young man last night that ran, he said, ‘Oh, I’m like Trump. Second Amendment, everything. I love the tax cuts, everything.’ He ran on that basis,” Trump said. “He ran on a campaign that said very nice things about me. I said, ‘Is he a Republican? He sounds like a Republican to me.’”

    So why didn’t trump endorse him then?

    (another question no reporter will ask)

  105. 105.

    Ella in New Mexico

    @schrodingers_cat: Ok, cool. It’d be nice if we could avoid these kinds of convos in the future. You dont like what I say, tell me what you think would be a better. Assume I’m a good person, and act accordingly.

  108. 108.

    hitchhiker

    @Hitless:

    Exactly right. If you want to understand how a lot of Trump voters see themselves, watch Erin Brokovich. They’re all the sassy, determined, feisty little guy with no education who STILL manages to stick it to the suits.

  109. 109.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Elizabelle:

    Hey yourself, lady.

    I used to love flying. The entire experience was exciting and adventurous. But I gradually came to hate it, everything about it, from ticket pricing to stupid high surcharges for every little thing to last-minute gate/terminal changes; from airport security theatre to uncomfortable overcrowded planes to officious petty dictators disguised as flight attendants; and most especially the cavalier dismissal of their passengers’ concerns and complaints …. I haven’t been on an airplane since about 2010, and won’t unless I am able to go to Europe again at some point.

  110. 110.

    Gelfling 545

    @Lapassionara: I was just thinking that if he tried that here in Buffalo even our racist suburbanites would be calling for his impeachment. At the very least.

  111. 111.

    Gretchen

    Hawley attributed sex trafficking to the sexual revolution of the 60’s and 70’s. He’s not as bad as his primary opponent who said he expects dinner to be on the table at 6pm, but he’s pretty retrograde in a time when suburban women are so not there. The St. Louis Moms Demand Action had to move to a much bigger venue than their usual library conference room last week, and still had to hand out fliers with action items for those who couldn’t get into the room. People are fired up, and not to elect a gun-loving, keep the girls at home Republican.

  112. 112.

    Betty Cracker

    @Elizabelle: Poor dog. That’s a long flight for a human to endure, and at least humans understand what’s happening and have consented to the trip.

  114. 114.

    Ella in New Mexico

    @schrodingers_cat: I appreciate that. These are trying times that bring out the best and the worst in us. If you can help me through them, I’ll do what I can to help you. :-)

  115. 115.

    jimmiraybob

    …there’s got to be a way to tie a Trump boat anchor around Hawley’s neck.

    And, if course, there’s our illustrious family-values, gun-slingin’, “conservative” Governor Eric Greitens who is currently being prosecuted for committing a felony invasion of privacy with his mistress.

    But I’m pretty sure that our greater Evangelical community doesn’t care about ethics and morality so, no boat anchors big enough to do enough damage to count on. Unless our more conservative Christians find Jesus or something. 50-50 chance.

    Personally, I’m hoping that Trump gets so full of himself soon that he actually shoots someone on 5th Ave to fire up the base.

  116. 116.

    satby

    @O. Felix Culpa: I had an exchange with one on the local Indivisible page today who was yapping about Lamb not being a “progressive… I’m fact he’s another Donnely”. My response:

    And Conor Lamb won. We need to win. Besides, he ran on:
    Jon Favreau @ jonfavs
    1. For universal health care
    2. Against Trump’s tax cut
    3. For expanded background checks
    4. For stronger unions
    5. Against cuts to Social Security
    6. For a woman’s right to choose
    7. For medical marijuana
    “Conservative Democrat.” Ok. Cool.
    Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good, it’s how we get Republicans. In these times social justice does have a party, and it’s the Democratic one. Both sides aren’t the same. And purity might get you into heaven (maybe) but it doesn’t win elections. We’re building coalitions, not auditioning for a life mate.

  117. 117.

    terraformer

    @Washburn:

    I dunno. While I hesitate to use my personal views to inform what other people may think, based on the way the wind’s blowing since the beginning of this horrible era and what people have seen and heard him do, there seems to be a sizable portion of the population that would be responsive to someone who goes full liberal, or at least more liberal than conservative.

    Surely one needs to tailor that continuum to a degree for their region/district, but I think many of us here and elsewhere have been saying for a long time that Democratic ideas are popular, if one would but express support for them in a clear way, kind of like what Lamb did.

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    JR

    @Baud: Which *policy* issues would those be? Not social insurance, not even reproductive choice (whatever his personal beliefs may be).

  119. 119.

    Baud

    @JR:

    He supported building on the ACA, not single payer. He supports “natural gas extraction.” He is seen as pro-gun (albeit not GOP radical). He supports “neoliberal” solutions to college debt and didn’t endorse free college. He supports job training, which is standard Dem policy but not a favorite of the left.

    That’s just from a quick glance at his website.

  120. 120.

    O. Felix Culpa

    @satby: Oooh, I love your line about building coalitions and not auditioning for a life mate. Perfect.

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