Trump might actually believe this since he’s a malignant narcissist whose sense of “right” and “wrong” is aligned precisely with “good for Trump” and “bad for Trump.”
As the House Intelligence Committee has concluded, there was no collusion between Russia and the Trump Campaign. As many are now finding out, however, there was tremendous leaking, lying and corruption at the highest levels of the FBI, Justice & State. #DrainTheSwamp
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 17, 2018
So, Trump’s story is that Nunes & Co’s absurd clown show cleared the Russia matter up, and his next move will be to try to shut the Mueller investigation down. Yes, it would be outrageous, and it’s legally and politically dicey, but Trump definitely doesn’t give a shit about that. A couple of years ago, a president publicly and brazenly using the DOJ to punish enemies would have been unthinkable. Today, we call it “Friday.”
The question is, can he sell this steaming load of horse shit to enough people to get away with it? He doesn’t need to sell it to the deranged fart-huffers who watch Fox News all day — they already believe it. But he does need to convince a sufficient number of non-Republicans that it doesn’t much matter whether Trump is subject to the law or not.
As Kay observed this morning, the DOJ is gone now, as an institution that’s a check on Trump. With Republican majorities in both chambers, Congress never was a check on Trump, and that can’t be rectified for several months. So for now, it’s Mueller. After Mueller, it’s us. Keep this link handy. I’m afraid we’re gonna need it.
Baud
All the people who support me have told me I am right.
Corner Stone
No, I don’t think he can. But what is the actual usefulness of “enough people” in this respect? Trump is going to do whatever he thinks he can get away with, no matter the potential recourse. And right now he thinks he can get away with anything.
trollhattan
Has anybody done a Trump word cloud and figured out how “collusion” ranks? It’s as though he recently learned the word and is working extra hard to make it part of his vocabulary.
p.s. Twenty Quatloos for the title alliteration.
feebog
@Baud:
“All the people who support me have told me I am right.”
I always thought of you as the bottom of the center.
Corner Stone
I like this Avenatti guy. For the life of me I still can’t understand how stupid one would have to be to join in the $20M lawsuit against Stormy at this time. Your idiot ass lawyer Cohen put out a declarative statement saying Trump had nothing to do with the hush agreement and no knowledge of it whatsoever. How in the world are you now going to be a party to a suit for damages of something you had no part in?
germy
Litlebritdifrnt
It is curious (and quite funny when you think about it) that when I check a Trump tweet just for fun the majority of the replies are anti Trump (asking him to resign, saying he is going to be indicted, worst POTUS in history etc., etc.,) There are a few obvious pro Trump trolls (best President in history, keep MAGA etc.) However, the majority I would say 80% are definitely anti Trump. I don’t know if that is a “liberal bias” of twitter but it is very informative. What is also informative is that someone operating Trump’s twitter account hasn’t blocked all these people.
Ridnik Chrome
If there was any way the Orange Fool could have fired Mueller, he would have done it by now. He’s not going to do it, because he can’t.
germy
Magda in Black
Hasn’t he already “sold” it to the necessary people/usual suspects?
Rhetorical question.
JGabriel
Betty Cracker @ Top:
I’m calling it ‘Nixonian’. That’s a word we need to bring back.
rikyrah
In 2014, Cambridge Analytica’s lawyer warned the company that having a non-American CEO and data scientists would risk breaking election laws. Fmr. employees say company ignored the advice. https://t.co/UAg1Q5t1BG pic.twitter.com/WcJA7scmA4
— Nick Confessore (@nickconfessore) March 17, 2018
rikyrah
“This was a scam — and a fraud,” Paul Grewal, a vice president and deputy general counsel at the social network, said in a statement to The Times earlier on Friday. Assume we are going to see state AGs moving in here as it is unlikely the US DOJ will do anything. https://t.co/R1vU3B4VoE
— Simon Rosenberg (@SimonWDC) March 17, 2018
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Corner Stone:
I agree he can’t. And you’re right Trump will try to get away with anything in the mean time. The real question is, “Does that include attempts at intimidation of opponents, whether they be gov officials or everyday people protesting Trump if he fires Mueller?” Which won’t be an easy thing to do.
I can’t believe this whole thing was so fragile.
rikyrah
When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America…America will triumph over you. https://t.co/uKppoDbduj
— John O. Brennan (@JohnBrennan) March 17, 2018
Gloat now, but you will be fired soon. And it’s not going to be done cowardly, as you’ve done to so many who’ve served you. There’s a storm gathering, Mr. President, and it’s going to wipe out you and your corrupt organization all the way down to the studs. https://t.co/I0UlNAlwxI
— Rep. Eric Swalwell (@RepSwalwell) March 17, 2018
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@rikyrah:
Wow. Powerful stuff that doesn’t pull any punches.
Steeplejack
@Corner Stone:
Inorite. I can’t get my mind around the logic, even trying to imagine the Bizarro world Trump version of it.
Could it be as simple as that “20 million dollars” came up in some discussion and Trump just stampeded toward it? “Payday! Yooge payday! Do it!”
JGabriel
@Corner Stone:
Providing cover to make Russian electoral hacking in the US look legitimate.
Elizabelle
@JGabriel: No, I don’t think you drag Nixon into this. Believe it or not, he was far more qualified and decent. Don’t muddy the waters. This is far, far worse.
Trump and his backers are of a class by themselves. They are not the silent majority, either.
raven
@Elizabelle: Decent my fucking ass.
Calouste
@rikyrah: Former CIA director (2013-2017) and a Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee. I.e. people who know stuff.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@JGabriel:
I don’t think that’s going work the way they think it will. There’s too much awareness of this stuff now and people are going to question the results if they don’t line up as expected. Mid-terms are historically bad for the president’s party in Congress. If that doesn’t happen, then we know something is wrong. Not sure if the Russians know this little fact.
Corner Stone
@germy: I know it won’t happen but shouldn’t all congressional leadership be condemning the way McCabe was fired?
This is going to backfire so horrendously that amazeballs are going to be shooting out of Trump’s ass.
Corner Stone
@JGabriel: But I don’t think it matters. Whether “enough people” provide cover, it’s still either going to take him down or it won’t.
JGabriel
@Elizabelle:
More qualified, certainly. But more decent?
I don’t know. Maybe, if, by more decent, you mean that at least Nixon hired Americans when he wanted to break into and steal Democratic files, instead of outsourcing it to Russian intelligence.
Edited to add: But keep in mind that Nixon’s 1968 back channel negotiations with the North Vietnamese, during the US elections, prolonged the Vietnam war by 6-7 years – making Nixon directly responsible for every soldier who died after that point.
zhena gogolia
@JGabriel:
lol
Elizabelle
@raven: I knew you were going to say that. But Nixon had redeeming qualities that Trump does not. I don’t think Nixon would sell his country out to the Russians.
Mostly, talking about Nixon is a distraction. Keep the focus on Trump.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Elizabelle: The Russians were communist back then.
Corner Stone
One non-elected functionary. I have been saying for some time that people’s continued faith in institutions amazes me. They have failed. The DOJ IG Horowitz is a Federalist Society flack. When we find out what’s in his report I am sure it will be shit. But it won’t matter. And if McCabe sues and wins that will not matter either. Because the initial firing has done what they wanted it to do. The FBI/DOJ is now a traitorous cesspool in the minds of about 30% of US voters.
Sloane Ranger
@raven: Put it like this, if you read that Nixon was going to meet with the leader of North Korea, would you –
1 Be worried the meeting would go arse over tit and lead to nuclear war,
2 Be worried that the President would end up selling the farm at a cut price rate,
3 Think he was wasting his time, but what the hell it can’t hurt, or
4 Be hopeful that something positive might come of it?
Personally I go with 3 or 4.
Ydobon
@Elizabelle: How about the Vietnamese then? Nixon’s Vietnam-treachery.
Nixon was awful. Trump is awful. But the Republicans now are worse.
TaMara (HFG)
@Litlebritdifrnt: I went in and spot checked the supporters and of the 5 I pulled, all checked out as almost certainly bots on the botometer link.
It could be the rest haven’t been told by Faux News how to respond yet. It took a few hours during the walkout on Wed to get a cohesive abortion/walkupnotout response consistently from the trolls.
Betty Cracker
@Ridnik Chrome: Read the WaPo article linked in my post. A former solicitor general who wrote the special counsel statute says Trump does have the power. All that’s holding him back is the prospect of political fallout. That dam is looking mighty shaky today.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Betty Cracker:
Not that I’m actually daring him to, but let him try. Both houses of Congress would be in play then this November.
wonkie
Yes, I think the dam is getting shaky. I have been sending Russian flags to Republicans to let them know how I feel If anyone cares to join me in this endeavor, links follow: The Russian Flag Project
I started with Trump. I ordered a flag from Amazon and sent it to him as a gift with a note that said, “Here’s something for you to salute besides yourself.”
But that was not completely satisfying, so I ordered a couple flags to be sent to my house and I composed some letters. I snail mailed a flag to Congressman Nunes with this message:
Tom Paine wrote about the sunshine patriots and winter soldiers. The winter soldiers are the people who remain loyal to their nation even when confronted with difficult choices. That’s where you and most of the other Republicans in Congress have failed.
Genuine patriots put nation ahead of party. It is way past time for every Republican to man up and woman up and face facts: the Trump campaign tried to collaborate, the Mueller investigation is legitimate, and Russians did interfere in our elections mostly on behalf of the Republicans.
Real patriots, the winter soldiers, will face those hard realities and work in a bipartisan way to protect the integrity of our elections and support the Mueller investigation to its conclusion, whatever that conclusion may be.
Until you publicly face those hard realities, and take vigorous action to protect our elections, you have no right to claim loyalty to the United States. Enclosed is an alternative flag for you to use until such time as you decide to overcome your hyper-partisanship and act like an American again.
Then I tweaked that message a bit and sent the new message and a flag to the Republican National Committee.
I plan to send some more flags to some more Republicans. And I composed a letter to the editor explaining my actions and sent the letter to WaPo, Rachel Maddow, and my local newspaper.
So why am I posting this? In hopes that you, dear reader, will do the same. Below are addresses and model letters to make it easy. Wouldn’t it be fun if they got lots of flags? Let’s shame the assholes!
Note: The easiest way to send flags is to send from Amazon to the snail mail address of he recipient as a gift. However, if you do this, you can only send a one sentence message. Also you need to type in the phone number of the recipient for some reason.
Link to five dollar flag to send as a gift:
https://www.amazon.com/ANLEY-Breeze-Foot-Russia-Flag/dp/B01KZ14EGE/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1521037159&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=russian+flag&psc=1
Email addresses:
[email protected]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/letter-to-the-editor/?utm_term=.5fb6c95d6b46
SNAIL MAIL ADDRESSES
Donald Trump
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20500
202-456-1414
Congressman Nunes
Longworth House Office Building
Suite 1013
Washington, DC 20515
The Republican National Committee (RNC)
310 First Street, SE
Washington, DC 20003 USA
Phone Number: 202-863-8600
oatler.
I was hate-reading a “Ricochet” column on this very subject and one of the commentors said that both Bushes were really Democrats. That’s how they’re going to play this.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
My 70-something parents are on a year-long RV trip through the West and Southwest. My dad is a career Navy veteran and a lifelong Democrat. Recently they visited Las Cruces, NM, and he posted this to his trip log:
I love my dad.
tobie
@Corner Stone:
Apparently Ruth Marcus gets along swimmingly with him,which is a big mark against him in my book.
Whatever the case: the requested investigation of the FBI handling of Emailghazi was from the start meant to call into question the integrity of any evidence or testimony produced by the FBI against Trump. Horowitz was assigned a manifestly political task and, much like Comey, seems more interested in burnishing his holier-than-thou credentials than in considering the fate of the rule of law in this country.
Cermet
@Betty Cracker: Agree- the orange fart cloud can fire Mueller but there would be a bit of a blood bath at the FBI in the upper levels and possibly in the Justice Department. Even a few thug senator’s might voice some concern. The orange fart will most likely fire Mueller sooner, rather than later – I believe the mid-terms are all that is keeping Mueller from being fired. After that, all bets are off.
tobie
@Betty Cracker: My only comfort in all this is that Mueller know exactly whom he is dealing with in Trump. I can’t imagine he wouldn’t have anticipated the threats his investigation faces.
Betty Cracker
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: Well, look at it from Trump’s perspective: Mueller’s team is looking into Trump’s business dealings now, as we learned earlier this week. Even if the Trump people have covered their tracks on conspiracy to ratfuck an election (and with those dimwits, that’s a huge assumption), is there any chance in hell they aren’t going to find mountains of regular old corruption? Hell no.
Firing Mueller before that’s exposed might be the only play Trump has left. Maybe he figures he can sow enough division, hell, even gin up a war or terrorist attack, to stave off impeachment. At least a third of this country is so goddamn dumb, they’ll believe anything he says, and another third can usually be counted on to sit on their asses. That’s the calculus we have to change.
Baud
@oatler.:
Trump being called a Democrat means we’ve won.
SmokeyB
I suggest we find another word besides “Nixonian”. Crook though he surely was, Tricky Dick left a trail of slime not nearly as deep as Donny Dollhands, and it is even possible to imagine that Dick had a tiny sliver of conscience. Herr Drumpf? No chance. Although I typically have an alternative suggestion for those I quibble with, I’m blanking out here. Too early. More coffee.
Betty, thank you for the link. I had not seen that before. I agree with others today – things feel extra shaky.
rikyrah
I have been involved in DOJ and FBI disciplinary matters since 1994. I have never before seen the type of rush to judgment – and rush to summary punishment – that we have witnessed in the case of Andy McCabe: https://t.co/9XKXoUKqTV
— Michael R. Bromwich (@mrbromwich) March 17, 2018
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Betty Cracker:
That makes a lot sense, unfortunately.
For what it’s worth, that does seem to be changing. Only time will tell.
Corner Stone
@tobie: Ruth Marcus needs to fucking retire. Can not stand her.
Of course. It was always a political hitjob. One reason why I never expected them to check or pushback on Trump. These scumbag flacks like Horowitz have all been slipped in to the system, sometimes waiting for decades to fulfill their political goals. One of the reasons why Trump packing the courts is going to be so damaging to our country. Not just for the awful rulings they will make, but because they will go on to accumulate more power and advancements into our system. Hiring like minded assholes behind them the whole time.
Miscellaneous
At this point the only real question for me is: what sort of “dead man switches” has Mueller set up to cover the eventuality of his firing?
Team Trump seems to be barreling towards firing Mueller; kind of feels like the McCabe firing is a dry run of sorts to see what the reactions are. His attorneys seem awfully nervous given prior prognostications that this was all going to be wrapped up with a nice letter of exoneration any day now.
Somehow I have a lot of difficulty imagining that Mueller hasn’t gamed all of this out already.
Corner Stone
Call me crazy, but I just would not enjoy living in an 80sqft living space of a converted cargo van. With a spouse, a 3 yr old and a dog.
rikyrah
I say no. I’ll repeat it again..
The pension is the tell all.
People understand stuff on an instinctual level..
And firing a muthaphucka 48 hours before he can collect on his pension after 20 years of service..
I don’t give a shyt if you’re working at the steel mill or the FBI – folks understand that.
They understand the complete and utter bullshyt in this move. And, the pettiness.
NMgal
Regarding the “Nobody Is Above the Law” action link — there’s an action planned in my little town (no surprise, we vote 90% not-Republican here), so I RSVPd and bookmarked. Hope we never have to go there, but good to be prepared. Maybe I’ll commission a poster from a local designer friend to be ready to print if need be — she did a great one for her kid to carry in the recent walkout.
Chris Carson
You idiots have fallen for your deep states lies. They are now back in the sadle and Trump is under their control.
There will be war with Iran. There may be war with Russia.
This is as much your fault as any other American led down the garden path by these monsters. Your monsters created by your monstrous system.
Assholes.
Jeffro
Ranty McRantface, in his own little Fox News feedback loop, seems to feel that he can go for broke, using his lies about McCabe as the ‘justification’ of his innocence and – at a minimum – fighting back against the Mueller probe. More likely, he’ll now try to pressure Rosenstein to fire Mueller, or pressure Sessions to fire Rosenstein, etc etc, whatever it takes including if he ‘has to’ fire Mueller himself. That’s what his lawyer’s trial balloon today is about.
Desperate times call for desperate measures. If Trumpov fires Mueller, I think it’s incumbent upon every one of these elected officials (the Dems of course – I don’t really expect the Reps to do the right or patriotic thing) to immediately release every document, transcript, and witness statement they have, whether it’s classified or secret or not. Schiff, Warner, all of them who have been in on the classified briefings – it’s ‘go time’. They need to get in front of news cameras 24/7 until enough of their colleagues are shamed into joining them in calling for the immediate impeachment of Trumpov.
Hopefully Mueller has a similar strategy – “If fired, proceed directly to the nearest TV station and begin walking the country through the investigation”.
And as citizens, whether we march, surround the White House, occupy Capitol Hill, refuse to pay our taxes, etc until this malignancy is removed, we have to treat this like the five-alarm fire that it is.
Major Major Major Major
God, I picked the wrong presidency to stop drinking.
Baud
@Chris Carson: You seem nice.
Corner Stone
@SmokeyB:
Oh, if only those portraits in the WH could talk to anyone besides Nixon!
raven
@Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: I wonder if he made it up to Angel Fire?
https://www.vietnamveteransmemorial.org
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Chris Carson:
No serious person says deep state. And Russia isn’t our friend. They are an existential threat to western democracy. Now fuck off
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: Putin botlets seems to proliferating.
jharp
“NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW—MUELLER FIRING RAPID RESPONSE”
Count me in.
And I will need about a 30 second advance notice.
Magda in Black
@Baud:
Thank you for making me actually laugh out loud, I sure needed that this day ☺️
Jeffro
@Cermet:
That is a great point. The Dems on the House committee should go public and get loud that once we take the House, they’ll just bring Mueller and all his info/investigators over to their committee, to continue the work from there.
Unfortunately, Orange Crash doesn’t listen to reason…just his sycophants.
Fair Economist
Trump has allied with the deep state? Well, that’s a new angle for trolling.
If we do get into a war, I’m going to watch the neocons to see if they flip. If they keep opposing Trump, that will be a signal that he’s *really, really* bad.
patroclus
@Chris Carson: What is a “deep state”? And, for that matter, what is a “sadle”? Try it in English – we don’t understand Russian.
Starfish
@Chris Carson: You do not spell well enough to comment here. The pedants are sharpening their red pencils, and they will be here to collect you shortly.
Major Major Major Major
@Fair Economist:
These people have later-season-X-Files levels of coherence when it comes to conspiracies.
@Starfish:
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Major Major Major Major:
How late are we talking about?
Starfish
@Jeffro: They need to refer a bunch of members of the committee for ethics investigations for things like leaking information their committee received on Senator Mark Warner and other things like that.
efgoldman
@JGabriel:
“Decent” is the wrong qualifier. More invested in and observant of the institutional norms, though, for sure.
Corner Stone
@Major Major Major Major:
IT.HAS.BEGUN!
efgoldman
@Corner Stone:
Sure. They also believe the earth is flat and Hillary ran a child slave ring.
Fuckem.
Major Major Major Major
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: That was a long time ago, so I don’t quite remember, but certainly by season 9.
efgoldman
@oatler.:
And i am the pope of all the Martians.
bemused
@rikyrah:
Wow. Praying they know whereof they speak.
Mike J
@efgoldman: It was the FBI that pulled a political hit job on Hillary in the last weeks of the campaign. The FBI really is a traitorous cesspool and has been since the first day jedgar took over.
patroclus
I’ve got to go with Nixon as the worst. He wasn’t nearly as incompetent as Trump and his cronies and he had been in Congress and the Senate and VP for 22 years prior to becoming the amoral POTUS that he became. The 1968 pre-election treason, the Huston Plan, the bugging, the IRS investigations, the enemies list, the multitudinous wars and actual deaths that results therefrom, Chile, Greece, assassinations, rampant anti-semitism and the capability for competent rat-fucking (Muskie), Ellsberg, and a whole bunch more, in addition to the Wars of Watergate would have led to actual impeachment and removal. Trump is awful, of course, but he’s more like pre-conversion Charles Colson than Nixon himself. I reserve the right to change my mind as we go forward, but right now, I’d still go with Nixon.
zhena gogolia
@Magda in Black:
I was thinking, “Who is going to have the perfect response to this bot?” And of course it was Baud!
Major Major Major Major
@Mike J: didn’t j-ed found it?
efgoldman
@Chris Carson: Hi Shomi. You’re just as much a troll as always, no matter how many screen names you try.
Amir Khalid
It’s a good night for me here. Liverpool are leading Watford 4-0 at Anfield. Mohamed Salah has scored his first Liverpool hattrick. The Girl and I are learning the chord changes in Born To Run. I am reading Bruce Springsteen’s memoir, also titled Born To Run, and it is really good.
ETA: Just as I hit Post Comment, Mo Salah scored his fourth goal of the day. Liverpool 5-0 Watford.
zhena gogolia
@Chris Carson:
Да, седло пишется через одно “д” — а saddle по-английски.
SFAW
@efgoldman:
Is it currently Lent for them, too? And what do they do on Ash Wednesday, since they don’t have foreheads?
zhena gogolia
In moderation for Cyrillic!
feebog
The fact the FBI IG has not yet released his report is another tell. “Lack of Candor” is a pretty broad brush. As a Labor Relations person at a federal agency. I can tell you we did charge employees with lying during an investigation. However, it was usually a secondary charge to whatever the investigation concerned. And frankly, although I was involved in hundreds of discharge cases, I cannot recall a single instance where we did not allow a person to retire if they were eligible rather than fire them before the eligibility date. In fact we sat on a few to that end. Plus we were spared the time and expense of going to arbitration or through the Merit Systems Protection Board. I have been a neutral arbitrator and hearing officer for well over a decade since retirement from the federal service, and I have see this happen also happen in any number of cases in the public sector, particularly involving law enforcement.
Cheryl Rofer
Here’s the Observer’s big piece on the Facebook – Cambridge Analytica thing.
SFAW
@efgoldman:
I don’t think it’s shomi, NewTroll’s well-reasoned comment doesn’t have the same feel. Unless shomi finally realized that his “tell” was pretty obvious, and decided to try an end-around.
Amir Khalid
@zhena gogolia:
Maybe FYWP figured you were a Russian bot. :)
Yarrow
@Cheryl Rofer: The Observer? The link’s to The Guardian.
efgoldman
@patroclus:
Tricksie was a lot of things, but “incompetent” wasn’t one of them, as you point out immediately following. He was a ratfucker first class with oak leaf clusters, but he was damned good at it.
Corner Stone
@zhena gogolia: He’s a conspiracy nut who popped up in one of Adam’s Syria threads. After a detailed post by Adam this commenter stated “The information here is fascinating, but very far from the truth. ;)” And that’s it. No facts, context or links.
Yarrow
Costco on a Saturday is hard work.
cosima
@Baud: Inspirational! He forgot to add something about clicking over to his site for further abuse!
SFAW
@feebog:
That’s because you and whichever agency had no collective desire to be punitive assholes, determined to make an example of someone for political reasons. You probably were also not dealing from a position of trying to cover up any malfeasance.
Mike J
@Major Major Major Major: The predecessor had been around 10-15 years before Hoover was made chief. 10 years after he took over he changed the name to FBI, and as a skillful politician who wiretapped everyone in congress and every White House was able to greatly expand their power.
Amir Khalid
@Yarrow:
As Cheryl’s already explained, the Observer is the Guardian’s Sunday paper.
efgoldman
@SFAW:
Their ashes are ground up Venusian kiwis, and they have an extra navel they use for a receptacle.
El Caganer
@Corner Stone: We are all David Dennison now.
SFAW
@cosima:
Does he start out with “Shut yer festering gob, you tit!”?
smintheus
The latest tweet confirms that the firing of McCabe was about undermining the credibility of the Russia allegations and the Mueller investigation of Trump. An own goal.
SmokeyB
Drumpf was connected to US mafia for much longer than the new mob he is running with. Even if he wasn’t a made man, surely he earned a nickname. Who knows what Putin calls him, but my guess as to what his first mob name was – Donny Sprinkles.
Yarrow
@Amir Khalid: I guess I missed that explanation. I didn’t see “the Observer” anywhere on the page and the date on the article is 17 March, which is a Saturday, so not a Sunday publication date. There is another publication called The Observer, so I didn’t know if she’d mixed up a link.
RemindsMeOfThatMovie
I don’t understand why people are not assuming a gov’t overthrow hasn’t already happened. All I hear is people still talking like there are more lines to cross.
News flash. The line was crossed a long time ago. All they are doing now is chipping away and what is left a little at a time to make it seem less dramatic.
There should have been non-stop protests and strikes etc. starting months ago. There are basically no more layers of protection left. The Supreme court is already gone and that was basically the last layer failsafe. It’s over folks. I don’t understand why people are still thinking Mueller will somehow save the day. R’s already have shown that they will not stand in the way of his firing and anyone else at FBI/DOJ/CIA etc.
The line has already been crossed and people.
SFAW
@efgoldman:
Thanks for the tutorial, Holy Father!
efgoldman
@cosima:
Starting by calling the whole BJ commentariat “You idiots…” is a very Shomi tell.
Corner Stone
@El Caganer: Does that mean I get to have sex with a lot of porn stars? Honestly, the trade off is just not worth it.
raven
@RemindsMeOfThatMovie: It’s never over you idiot.
efgoldman
@SFAW:
Hey, you asked! I live to serve
::::makes sign of hexagon::::
Major Major Major Major
@Mike J: I know, but you can’t say he “took over” an agency that didn’t quite exist ?
And yes, he was awful, and the FBI has always been politically reactionary.
Ruckus
@tobie:
The republican rule of law is to them, whatever they want it to be. They value winning above all else. Real rule of law just gets in their way. They don’t want a democracy. They want power. Everything they do is about power. And just like all their predecessors, they will abuse that power. They have managed to get in a place where they control all the power and the checks and balances that are supposed to control it in our system.
They learned the wrong lesson from Nixon. They learned that to have everything you have to kill the checks and balances. Just being in power isn’t enough.
This has been a lesson in conservative 100, brought to you by the history of the world since day one.
M31
@raven:
yeah! was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Mike J
@Major Major Major Major: He took over the BOI and he changed the name to the FBI.
Magda in Black
@RemindsMeOfThatMovie:
” Hair on fire” panic is not constructive.
Ruckus
@Baud:
Sort of like an infected stye is nice.
M31
@efgoldman:
In the name of the Father, the Son, the nictitating membrame, the ovipositor, the cloaca, and the Holy Ghost, Amen.
Ilefttxwhenannlost
It is old yeller time…trump is rabid, diseased and dangerous
dww44
@Corner Stone: Just now I tested the temperature with my GOP brother, whose wife and adult daughter are both Democrats and who tend to moderate his political beliefs. They all live in Northern Va.
So I mentioned to him just a bit ago (we mutually agreed long ago not to talk politics) how very upset I was by this action (I am really bothered by this) and while he didn’t push back, I read between the lines that he’s not upset by Trump’s action. That disappoints me as he’s a retiree from the business world who retired younger than he should have because he refused to sign a no-compete contract after a buy-out of the company. I thought he’d see how wrong Trump’s action was.
Guess he agrees with Trump that McCabe is corrupt. I continue to be gobsmacked that anyone at all buys into Trump after his actions this week. As someone wrote over at LGM earlier the GOP has become a virtual cult. Nothing Trump does can damage their support of this President. That truly is disturbing to me.
Amir Khalid
@Corner Stone:
I don’t quite understand this. If Trump never signed an agreement with Stormy Daniels, there is none. So how can Trump’s lawyer claim damages from her?
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@RemindsMeOfThatMovie:
So I guess we should all just kill ourselves. Is that it?
Cermet
@Chris Carson:
Get a grip. This isn’t the four horseman …yet. lol
Major Major Major Major
@Mike J: again, I know, I’ve done graduate work on his information policies. I was being pedantic.
Another Scott
@Litlebritdifrnt: Trump’s blocking users on Twitter violates the 1st Amendment (from November):
I don’t know where the lawsuit stands these days…
Cheers,
Scott.
Mike J
@Amir Khalid: It could be argued that a contract requires an offer and acceptance. She accepted the offer and Trump upheld his portion of the contract by paying, even if he didn’t sign. Don’t know how important the actual signature is. Not a lawyer, etc, etc.
Percysowner
Proving the FBI doesn’t hire complete idiots AP: Like Comey, Fired McCabe Kept Personal Memos Regarding Trump
@Corner Stone:
Whatever else, she has been the one columnist standing up to George Will “aborting kids who have Downs Syndrome is GENOCIDE” AKA “I had enough money to make certain my child with Down’s Syndrome would be safe and taken care of so YOU have no right to make a different choice!”
patroclus
@Major Major Major Major: Well, not “always.” In certain brief moments in history, the FBI has done really well. When LBJ lit a fire under their butts to solve the Cheney/Goodman murders, they did a good job. They pointedly avoided even attempting to enforce Prohibition, they’ve occasionally been quite adept at going after mafiosos, Mark Felt during Watergate (cf. COINTELPRO) is also a good example. Granted, you’re right in the aggregate – the FBI is almost always politically reactionary, but there are some exceptions. Conclusionary summaries of the FBI as a whole are easy to make, but you really have to examine them case-by-case.
RemindsMeOfThatMovie
@Magda in Black: So you’re saying I wasted my money building an underground bunker and hoarding AR15’s and ammo?
I’m always so well infromed around here at “hey lets post recipes and cat pix while the world burns” central.
Corner Stone
@Amir Khalid:
They will never actually press that claim all the way to court. It’s a way of intimidating other potential claimants. “Speak up and you will have millions of dollars in legal fees after I sue your ass!”.
I guess there may be a legal reason why Trump aka DD *has* to be a party to the damages claim but it just seems incredibly stupid to come out and do so. Trump is terrified of whatever Stormy has on him and also scared to death of what all the others who have signed NDAs also have on him. It’s not just sex. There has to be a lot of *there* there.
rikyrah
@dww44:
Which is why they shouldn’t even be bothered to be reasoned with.
Say ‘ Phuck em’ and then proceed to mow them over.
Cermet
@patroclus: Uncle – you win! He is worse. Wow, talk about a cesspit of crimes. Not sure I wanted that rock turned over again.
dww44
@Elizabelle: Thanks, Elizabeth. I agree with all your comments. Trump is far more dangerous to all of us than Nixon ever was. When the truth comes out even the true believers (like so many of my friends and relatives) will see what Donald Trump is. I only hope when he goes down that he also takes down the entire Republican party and most especially Fox News. This is the only way that the country can reclaim any sort of moral and institutional high ground.
raven
@RemindsMeOfThatMovie: go away before I come down there and slap the shit out of you. . .
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@RemindsMeOfThatMovie:
Why don’t you go fuck off to whatever shithole you came from if you hate it here so much.
cosima
@SFAW: Dunno. Not brave enough to click over. I can get abuse elsewhere, not in the market for new sources. Besides, until my heart tests are done I’m trying to keep my life as zen as possible.
Frankensteinbeck
“Hey, America! Watch me fire Mueller!”
“Again?”
raven
@dww44: You don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.
Ruckus
@patroclus:
It is a hard call for sure. Nixon was horrible, or whatever is worse than horrible. But he did have, as others have said, a modicum of decorum and understanding of the place and process. And it took him how many years to get to having to walk away? drumpf reached the level where he should have walked away before the election. He’s only made it worse since. He has no morals or ethics, Nixon had some. Nixon caused a lot of deaths, far more than just the Americans who died. What is in store for us with drumpf? Nixon was a corrupt politician. drumpf is a corrupt human being. Everything he touches turns to shit. We have the Midas Touch, what could you call what drumpf has?
No one here is saying that Nixon was in any way good, only that drumpf is even worse. drumpf is tearing apart our government, destroying it from the inside. Conservatives have been trying to do that for 230 yrs and drumpf has done more damage in one year than all of them combined over 2 centuries.
Percysowner
@Mike J:
Except Trump is swearing he DIDN’T pay the contract, so as it stands she took money from an attorney who says it has nothing to do with Trump. I’m not a lawyer, but it might well hurt his standing to sue.
Gin & Tonic
@efgoldman: This one is an actual person, with a website and a photo of his alleged self. Click on his name in the original comment.
japa21
@Yarrow: There are three groups of people at Costco on a Saturday. The Costco employees, the folks who doing the demonstrating and the customers. It is hard work for all of them. This Saturday specially busy as it is the first weekend of their newest sale flyer. The last weekend is also a pain.
FlyingToaster
@Chris Carson: Who the fuck are you and why the fuck are you here?
Jeebus, we’re attracting an even low class of concern troll than usual.
Mnemosyne
@Starfish:
To be fair, we only use our red pencils to take one testicle for the first offense.
sukabi
@Corner Stone: it’s trump, intelligence doesn’t figure into it. The same “reasoning” Don Jr. used when he released the full set of Russian meeting emails.
He’s actually trying to intimidate Daniel’s and her lawyer into backing off, most likely because this is the tactic they’ve (trump & Cohen)used before in every law suit that’s ever been brought against them.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Mike J:
Your BOI link goes to a frog on a unicycle?
Another Scott
@Chris Carson: Nice photos.
I have no idea who you’re yelling at though… :-/
Cheers,
Scott.
cosima
@efgoldman: Yes, it is usual to be specific about which of the commentariat is the idiot (or which *are* the idiots). Perhaps he has gone away as he clearly didn’t get the clicks he was looking for.
Chris Carson
ROTFLMFAO Rock in the pond. Ripples.
I’ll explain. The deep state, a phrase you do not like is the consistent and ongoing part of your government. This is normal and all governments that have elections and changes in the people running the show, have such a function.
Yours has taken control. That’s bad. Hillary was their poster child, and very much who they wanted in power. She does have a bad record of being a human, just for starters.
Amazingly they dropped the fucking ball. They have been trying to get it back ever since. They have pretty well succeed at this point. They did this by employing pretty well the entire main stream media and you consumers of media went with it. Again assholes.
Hillary’s agenda was very much to push American power hard, as a natural eroding of that is in progress. You are losing preeminence, and there is nothing more important to you. She does like to use the US military and that was her plan.
A lot of us breathed a huge sigh of relief, along with the incredulity, when against all odds Trump won. He said he wanted detente with Russia and just wanted terrorists killed in Syria. Good stuff. You may be able to see that our hopes have been dashed, and that is gone.
With Pompeo, Koch’s boy and a serious anti Islamist in power game over. There will be war. Whether the Russians are going to respond in this is hard to tell. They have said they will sink launchers that attack Damascus. maybe have that not be the Sixth Fleet.
Assholes.
Gelfling 545
@raven: Being more decent than Trump is not exactly high praise. Nor is it a high bar to clear.
efgoldman
@RemindsMeOfThatMovie:
You could always start your own doomsday blog and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.
zhena gogolia
@Ilefttxwhenannlost:
Where the hell is Atticus when you need him?
ETA: I mean this metaphorically.
Magda in Black
@RemindsMeOfThatMovie:
You may spend your money any way you wish.
I, personally, consider the panicked rhetoric unhelpul.
Take that any way you wish, as well.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@TaMara (HFG):
Is there evidence that WalkUpNotOut is a Russian propaganda effort? I know several people who have been spouting that bullpucky (like it is done wise, compassionate approach to school shootings).
dww44
@raven: Actually, I do know what I’m talking about. I long ago figured out that I’ve a few years on you. Even though I didn’t fight in Viet Nam, I had other experiences that make me quite informed about the Nixon presidency. I do believe that Trump will prove to be much worse than Nixon.
Gin & Tonic
@Chris Carson: Bernie woulda won, eh?
FlyingToaster
@RemindsMeOfThatMovie: And another one.
Okay, what fucking warehouse in St. Petersburg to we need to send inflatable girlfriends to?
SFAW
@efgoldman:
I appreciate it.
When you make the sign of the hexagon, are we supposed to say “I reach you”? Or are you a “Herbert”?
Cermet
@RemindsMeOfThatMovie: You did waste your money. First off, if society really breaks down, your AR-15 or what ever will pale in comparison to the few dozen people all heavily armed who will take your stuff; in the event of a real nuclear exchange, no bunker is worth anything – at all. A single strike by terrorist, maybe (if you are far away and can quickly get away from the fall out area (bunker useless for that.) Second, using that money for imaginary situations that could have been invested for your retirements years (or as an emergency reserve) would have been far away better.
SFAW
@RemindsMeOfThatTroll:
Reassuring to note that your trolling has not gotten any smarter since the last time.
The Thin Black Duke
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: No, nothing that drastic. It just wants us to not vote and stay home.
SFAW
@FlyingToaster:
All of ’em, Toaster?
Another Scott
@Chris Carson: (sigh)
There’s a “Reply” link at the end of each comment, Vlad. Quit yelling at nobody in particular and trying to cause trouble. Most of us here know not to argue against strawmen.
Go away.
Regards,
Scott.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@Chris Carson:
Methinks you’ve taken in some Russian disinfo. Why the fuck else would Russian bots try to so heavily tilt the election towards Trump through social media and slime Hillary? Why did a clown like Comey release the letter when he did if he was in the tank for Hitlary? Wasn’t apart of the “deep state”? And there’s a reply button for a reason.
Fair Economist
This latest one does seem like more of just plain nut case than Russian agent.
If there are any genuine anti-war types who think they shouldn’t support Democrats, you’re about to get another object lesson in why you are wrong. I would have thought Iraq was enough, though. Boy what a lesson that was!
Matt McIrvin
Why is there such a troll pile-on today? Somebody link us?
SFAW
@FlyingToaster:
Maybe this place is has graduated to “Top 5000” status?
Mike J
@Steeplejack (phone): Dat boi.
randy khan
@Mike J:
Ah, but *Trump* didn’t pay – the company created by Cohen did, and the agreement makes it clear that the money is coming from that company, not from Trump.
The argument for Trump being able to sue, as I understand it, is that he is what’s called a third-party beneficiary of the agreement, so he’s entitled to the benefits of the agreement. It seems to me that there are at least two, and maybe three, problems with that argument – (1) He wouldn’t have been listed as a party to the agreement – with his own signature line! – if he was a third-party beneficiary; (2) the agreement calls for him to do certain things, which can only be the case if he’s a party; and (3) (possibly) the clause about $1 million in damages per violation might not apply to him, but might apply only to Cohen’s (now defunct) company, so he might have to prove damages, which would be pretty funny. (Others have suggested that it might be hard to enforce the damages clause because the amount seems way out of line, but I don’t know one way or the other about that.)
There’s also the interesting point that, if Cohen was doing this to benefit Trump, it would seem like Cohen violated federal election law.
Fair Economist
@dww44: Nixon did a lot of truly horrible stuff, but he wasn’t threatening the existence of American democracy.
Ruckus
@Mnemosyne:
A testicle is a semi useful organ. This one isn’t close to useful.
The Thin Black Duke
@Matt McIrvin: Trump fucked up BIG today. That’s why.
Gelfling 545
@Betty Cracker: Seems to me that the first and most vital thing to do in the event of war or nuclear attack is to get rid of Trump asap.
debit
There is so much pie in this thread.
Sister Golden Bear
Not surprised, but still…
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/latest-ap-learns-mccabe-memos-trump-53820039
Tick tock motherfuckers.
Fair Economist
@Matt McIrvin:
Usually troll pile-ons are attempting to distract us from something. I’m not sure what’s going on we need to be distracted from, though. Maybe the McCabe firing exposed some thread of the conspiracy?
FlyingToaster
@SFAW:
We have too many pet pics and expert analysts, along with insufficient “conventional wisdom”. Plus, jackals.
@SFAW:
We’d need Koch-brother level funding to fulfill that order, and none of us have ever even received a Soros check. sigh.
Corner Stone
@Sister Golden Bear: No link but WSJ is reporting that Mueller already has them.
Gelfling 545
@Chris Carson: Do svidaniya, comrade.
randy khan
The Nixon v. Trump thing is interesting, or would be if it were a mere academic exercise.
Nixon was evil, but in a specific way, and very competent. (His subordinates were not as competent.) Nixon’s evil was largely channeled towards getting and maintaining power. It was pretty bad, really the worst before Trump in my life, but in the end he also wanted to leave footprints in the sands of time (China, the SALT agreement with the U.S.S.R.) and his governing instincts mostly were right-center by the standards of the time. This is, after all, a guy who imposed a wage-price freeze and who created the EPA (although there clearly was pressure on him to do that). A lot of his foreign policy stuff was pretty horrific once you got past China and SALT, but if you don’t want to be horrified, don’t look too closely at post-WWII American foreign policy in general.
Trump is generally evil, but more or less incompetent. He is terrible across a wide range of issues, but really doesn’t understand governing at all and is getting rid of the best people in his Administration on an ongoing basis, so he’s going to get worse at it, not better. Sometimes that leads to terrible outcomes; in other cases (the lack of funding for The Wall, the health care repeal fiasco) it means he can’t get what he wants done to happen.
It’s a tough choice.
Ruckus
@Fair Economist:
Nixon did a lot of truly horrible stuff, but he wasn’t
threateningdestroying the existence of American democracy.We are both arguing the same side here and we are both a bit off base. What Nixon was trying to do was trying to destroy the existence of American democracy. Nixon wasn’t successful at it. drumpf is not trying to destroy the existence of American democracy, he isn’t smart enough for that. He is however being successful at it.
Corner Stone
Speaking of which. Where in the world is FBI Director Chris Wray in all this?
cosima
@Sister Golden Bear: I was reading the headlines about his ‘notes’ and thinking about these pens that both Mr Cosima & I have, livescribe, that look quite like regular pens, but live-record (audio) of what you are taking notes on. And they very slickly convert to a PDF file for sharing. So, with those pens we get the paper notes, digital notes, cloud storage and an audio recording. Mr’s audio no longer works, which is unfortunate, as he often has very contentious meetings. We’re not even FBI — imagine the technology they can utilise, not really any excuse for *not* having ‘notes.’
Major Major Major Major
@Fair Economist: yeah, it’s unusual to get this many. Reminds me of the 2016 primary.
SFAW
@Corner Stone:
In a corner, curled up in the fetal position?
SFAW
@FlyingToaster:
Speak for yourself. I got one, to go along with the Obama cell phone I received.
Ruckus
@Fair Economist:
Well firing McCabe was stupid and on the highest order of stupid. Which is of course always drumpf’s only course of action.
Whatever is the stupidest direction to go always seems to determine what he will do next. He has all the cunning of a pile of rocks.
What makes him dangerous is that he has no real idea what he’s doing, where he’s going, what process will even get him there. His game theory level is zero. He’s like a very large, very rabid animal.
Gelfling 545
@West of the Rockies (been a while): There’s been considerable push back from quiet/nerdy/introverted/ socially distant young people who rightfully resent the idea that they are somehow school shooters waiting to happen and do not particularly appreciate the concept of people offering false comradery just because they think you might shoot them otherwise.
debbie
@rikyrah:
Many of the words in those tweets are far too big for Trump to understand. His critics need to tweet in words Trump understands and can be driven insane by.
efgoldman
@randy khan:
No he didn’t. Recognizing the inevitable, he signed a bill that passed with overwhelming veto proof margins.
FlyingToaster
@SFAW: I’m sure it’s because I live in the People’s Republic; they know they don’t have to buy us.
Gelfling 545
@SFAW: If he has any integrity at all he’s composing his resignation letter.
cosima
@Gelfling 545: Along with the fact that it places the responsibility for stopping these school shootings on the children — if only they’d been more compassionate it would not have happened! I read a really excellent screed from Glennon Doyle about it where she pointed it that it is similar to telling folk protesting to improve Domestic Violence laws to be nicer to their husbands, she had several other pertinent examples. It was excellent. My gut feeling when I saw that ‘walk up’ b.s. was ‘don’t put this on the kids!!!!!’ As the Parkland students have said over & over, they are being the responsible adults, whilst those in charge act childish. WalkUp is another way for adults to eschew responsibility for effecting positive change. It’s not the right response to this issue.
Major Major Major Major
@efgoldman: Ted Kennedy, as I recall, said that one of his greatest regrets was not compromising with Nixon on universal healthcare.
patroclus
@randy khan: The Dem Congress enacted the EPA; Nixon did the “Christmas bombing.” Trump fires Comey and McCabe; Nixon invaded Cambodia. Trump tweets insulting things; Nixon propped up military juntas throughout Latin America (and the rest of the world). Trump pays off porn stars he had sex with; Nixon paid hush money to criminals engaged in political espionage. Trump and his family enrich themselves in violation of the emoluments clause; Nixon destroyed the post-WWII Bretton Woods system and touched off a multi-year worldwide economic crisis, complete with oil embargoes and the breakdown of international trade. Trump has White House staff chaos; Nixon pointedly adopts the madman theory and tries to convince the Soviets that he will use nuclear weapons with the use of “Strategic Nuclear Response.” Seriously, it’s not really that tough a call.
The difference is that the Democrats controlled Congress and virtually the entire government during the Nixon era; they don’t during the Trump era. Trump seems more dangerous because of that, but he’s a moron and doesn’t understand government. Nixon clearly did understand how politics work.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Mike J:
Yet another Internet tradition of which I was (mercifully) unaware.
patrick II
@Another Scott:
Where all lawsuits against Trump stand nowadays — who’s going to enforce it?
chopper
@Chris Carson:
let’s not.
Sister Golden Bear
@cosima: Live audio recordings. A girl can dream…
debbie
@Fair Economist:
Nixon also backed off when he saw he could seriously damage the country. Trump never will; he is the first president who puts himself over his country.
SFAW
@FlyingToaster:
Yeah, but the photo of the utility pole on your front porch might have stirred some compassionate impulse.
FlyingToaster
@SFAW: The adjuster came while I was at music school with WarriorGirl; he agreed to condemn the porch (the underneath supports are no longer on their footings, but splayed out). He also measured the vinyl trim and siding for where the wires busted it, agreed to paint the whole front of the house. I doubt that we will: I own the replacement vinyl for the one piece on the front that was broken and it’ll cost me damn near nothing for the paint for one piece from the Sherman Williams around the corner. I don’t, however, own any spare trim and will get the new trim painted before it goes up. So I’m waiting for a quote from the local guy with 5 stars at all the review places, and see when he can get me on his calendar. Then go pull a permit for demo and replace. Yeesh.
Radiumgirl
What recourse does McCabe have now? Can he sue — and if he does, won’t that put a lot of material into the public record that Trump doesn’t want there? As noted above, McCabe kept a record of his meetings with Trump — and his assertion that Trump is trying to discredit him as a witness suggests that part of his legal challenge would be to establish that Trump fired him in order to do just that? So anything that proves Trump had something to hide would support his case?
Corner Stone
@Radiumgirl: McCabe has an attorney named Bromwich who appears to be an experienced badass at DOJ/IG shit. My guess is he will vigorously respond with the kind of fire and fury that Trump always bluffs about. As I stated upthread, this firing is going to massively backfire against Trump et al.
Jager
@efgoldman: Hey my text (the Venusian translation) says it’s the ashes of Venusian Virgins, not kiwis, they ate kiwis before being thrown into the volcano, okay?
zhena gogolia
I have to admit, I have. They used to give grants for scholarly purposes like bringing visiting artists and poets from the former Eastern bloc.
ETA replying to FlyingToaster #171
Another Scott
@cosima: Interesting about the Livescribe pen. Something like that would be very handy for my note taking, but I dunno about the audio… Zooks! $180 list?!! Gotta do some searching around and thinking about options….
(I would assume the FBI would have rules about using electronic note-taking things (especially gadgets that use The Cloud) in meetings, especially if anything sensitive was being discussed. But who knows…)
Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
Starfish
Major Major Major Major & Mnemosyne & Corner Stone
You are all making me laugh when I am sleep deprived, under the weather, and in panic mode. Thank you.
Uncle Cosmo
@RemindsMeOfThatMovie: In the immortal lyrics of the Who,
Also, FOADIAF. Same for fuckhead Chris Carson.
SiubhanDuinne
@Yarrow:
They are sister papers.
J R in WV
@Chris Carson:
Your pictures were nice, shame you don’t speak/write english well enough to make yourself understood. I think you were/are a Trump supporter, although with your lack of vocabulary and grammar it’s hard to be sure. If you are a Trump supporter, you are in the wrong place.
We all believe that Trump is a traitor to the United States, a criminal, a controlled by Putin lackwit who launders dirty Russian mob funds via sham real estate transactions. Also a serial abuser of women of all ages, a pervert who muses aloud about having sex with his daughter.
There’s strong proof of most of those accusations in the public arena, and good indications of the rest of them publicly known as well. Trump is also stupid, witness his inability to hire good staff, inability to make money running casinos for crying out loud.
We have a think called a pie filter. You may want to try it sometime. How it works, a user, A (like me) puts another user’s nym (B) into their filter list. From then on User A always sees User B’s comments as odd comments about pie. Which is how I will be reading your incomprehensible and moronic comments forever after.
Just goes to show how a person can have a good talent, like photography, and still be a flaming ass about more important things, like the future of the nation and the world. Maybe your pictures are good because of your good equipment? Weeding hundreds of non-composed images to find a couple of good accidents? Probably so.
Bye now, Chris
SFAW
@FlyingToaster:
Best of luck, sounds like not a lot of fun.
SFAW
@Corner Stone:
Would that it twere so.