Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

Second rate reporter says what?

Many life forms that would benefit from greater intelligence, sadly, do not have it.

GOP baffled that ‘we don’t care if you die’ is not a winning slogan.

Cole is on a roll !

You cannot shame the shameless.

Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

There are some who say that there are too many strawmen arguments on this blog.

Republican also-rans: four mules fighting over a turnip.

Stop using mental illness to avoid talking about armed white supremacy.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

Republicans don’t lie to be believed, they lie to be repeated.

I wonder if trump will be tried as an adult.

“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.

Not all heroes wear capes.

You are so fucked. Still, I wish you the best of luck.

I didn’t have alien invasion on my 2023 BINGO card.

It’s all just conspiracy shit beamed down from the mothership.

Let’s finish the job.

Come on, media. you have one job. start doing it.

Fuck that bum, let’s go Joe!

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Iowa-based, or knowledgeable, commentors: Which of these three have the best shot at unseating Rep. Pig Muck?

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  1. 1.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Love, adore, almost worship Emma G.

    Loathe, detest, almost hate Steve K.

    That is all.

  2. 2.

    satby

    Based on how they treated another smart passionate woman, we better get ready for the thirty year smear job the right wing will pull on Emma Gonzalez.

  3. 3.

    Jeffro

    @satby: they can try…I don’t think Hogg is gonna let that happen, though. Also, times a couple ten million “iGen” kids and millennials also too.

  5. 5.

    Mary G

    The kids have one thing right. They will outlive Rep. Pig Muck. They will remember this scum and vote Democrat all their lives. And after the primary in June, I will donate to whoever is his opponent and write postcards and make calls and whatever else I can do. He’s one of the ones I hope gets caught with his hand in the Russia/Qatar/Saudi Arabia cookie jar.

  6. 6.

    condorcet runner-up

    What I love about these kids is they don’t stoop to the level of mouth-breathers like Rep. King, but that doesn’t also mean that they can’t dish it back and then some. Calling out Rubio to talk to his colleague is simple, but devastating. Very elegant response. Professional dems could learn a thing or two from these kids.

  7. 7.

    Hungry Joe

    Lock Steve King in a room for five minutes for with Emma Gonzalez and there’d be nothing left of him but a grease spot and the splattered cantaloupe that used to be his head.

    I mean that metaphorically, of course. I think.

  8. 8.

    Mathguy

    As anyone with a brain comments about Steve King: “Christ, what an asshole.”

    Being in Omaha, I’m glad he’s northwestern Iowa’s problem.

  9. 9.

    SFAW

    So Steve King, you racist motherfucker –

    Do you have a Confederate battle flag on your desk because Iowa was one of the Traitor States? No, you say? Well, is it because you were born in one of the Traitor States? No, again?

    Hmmmm. So why EVER would you have a flag symbolizing support for slavery in a place of honor on your desk? I’ll even give you 30 seconds to come up with some bullshit answer.

    You racist motherfucker.

    ETA: Yes, I know it’s an approximation of the Army of NoVA flag, etc.

  12. 12.

    aliasofwestgate

    @Jeffro: Don’t count out the younger cadre of GenX, those closer to the millennial cutoff like me with my 1977 bday. I came of age during the height of the Clinton smear job. It ended up giving me a very strong bullshit detector very early. I watched in horror in 2016 as all the old crap was brought up again, and debunking did very little to slow it down or stop it. Now i know it was the russian bots/trolls who were driving it even more than the usual idiots. I plan to back Emma as best as i can. Even if its tiny donations to help the cause and doing my best at the ballot box. I know some of the older GenX went very conservative, but i do know that many of us in the younger end of our tiny age group are pretty damned liberal.

  13. 13.

    Hungry Joe

    David Hogg is a jiu-jitsu master of Twitter. I hope dumbass Republicans never figure out that they shouldn’t fuck with these kids online. It’s the kids’ home turf, and they know every (figurative) square inch of it.

  15. 15.

    Baud

    You would too if you ever got the chance to meet her. 

    No, Steve King would not.

    We need to love each other as Americans regaurdless of our descent, ethnicity or race. #LoveTrumpsHate

    Hasn’t he heard about the emails?

  16. 16.

    SFAW

    @SWMBO:

    Celebrating a grand losing tradition going back over 100 years.

    Let’s hope that racist bastard renews that “tradition” in about 7.5 months.

  18. 18.

    Baud

    OT. Not good.

    Multiple suspicious packages were mailed to military and intelligence locations throughout the Washington, DC, area on Monday, a law enforcement official confirmed to NBC News.

    The FBI is currently examining all the packages, some of which contained materials found in explosive devices, though it’s unclear whether the parcels contained working bombs.

  19. 19.

    Aleta

    The Princeton Gerrymandering Project is hiring a Legal Analyst! The legal analyst will be responsible for digging into the legal, political, and statistical issues surrounding redistricting in the states we target. This will include researching the regulations governing redistricting, the ways in which the process played out in the last several redistricting cycles, the background politics, and current reform efforts. Additionally, the legal analyst will keep abreast of redistricting news and scholarship, both legal and statistical. Finally, the legal analyst will co-author academic and popular press articles about PGP methods and handle some press inquiries and external communications.

    The ideal candidate for this job is a strong writer with basic knowledge of courts and the law. The candidate will also be familiar and comfortable with discussing both legal and mathematical/statistical issues with academic and lay audiences. This position is suitable for someone between college and graduate or professional school. More experienced applicants are also welcome. In all cases, the person must be available full-time. Soon there will be an official job posting, at which time the goals and requirements may be modified slightly. In advance of that, I invite interested people to send me an email at sswang at princeton dot edu and cc B Remlinger (brem at princeton dot edu) to describe their qualifications and availability.

    http://election.princeton.edu/2018/03/26/job-opportunity-–-legal-analyst-princeton-gerrymandering-project/

  20. 20.

    SFAW

    @West of the Cascades:

    Hogg calling out Rubio to respond to King essentially wins the internets for the day.

    But Rubio, having all the backbone of a bed of kelp, will twit-mumble something in response about “common ground” and “stop being so MEAN to ME! King.”

  21. 21.

    Schlemazel

    @condorcet runner-up:
    But they used naughty words!!! Several goppers are very upset that these children have potty mouths & believe this invalidates everything they are fighting for

  23. 23.

    Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)

    I am sorry to say that King is very popular with his constituents. He beat Christie Vilsack last time. I don’t think he’s vulnerable and he’s not mine so I admit I haven’t paid a lot of attention to the D candidates. Someone else undoubtedly knows more than I do about them.

    Now two other Iowa reps are vulnerable: Rod Blum of IA 1 (my district, northeast) and Young of IA 3 (southwest). I’m almost sad that I don’t expect to still be living here in November because it would be great to vote Blum out.

  29. 29.

    efgoldman

    @Schlemazel:

    Several goppers are very upset that these children have potty mouths & believe this invalidates everything they are fighting for

    Fuckem

    [thx for the setup]

  35. 35.

    schrodingers_cat

    Yesterday we had the doctored photo of Emma on front page by JGC and today this. Why play into the hands of RWNJs and give their hate filled memes more oxygen and allow them to change the topic. Why not talk about the good Emma and her classmates are doing instead. Stop feeding the RW narrative by repeating it even if it is to mock.

  41. 41.

    SFAW

    @NotMax:

    Not new; it has surfaced before.

    Under this name? Don’t recall seeing it before, and the style doesn’t seem to match some of the others I recognize.

  47. 47.

    JaneSays

    IA-04 is an R+11 district, the same as PA-18. So anything’s possible.

    That said, Steve King is an incumbent, and unfortunately, a relatively popular one among most of his constituents. Rick Saccone was not an incumbent, and wasn’t especially popular in the district in which he was running. And he only barely lost.

    Taking out Steve King would be fantastic, but it would probably take a child rape scandal or something on par with that to get him out. This vile outburst won’t hurt him a bit there.

    Flipping R+11 districts can be done, but the odds of pulling it off drop significantly if it requires beating a 7-term incumbent. Or any incumbent, really.

  49. 49.

    JMG

    King is re-elected with ease every two years. The people of the Iowa 4th district must just be shit with legs. There’s no excuse. There are plenty of conservative Republicans who aren’t racist pigs. They WANT that.

  52. 52.

    NotMax

    @SFAW

    Yeah, same nym. Not often but has appeared previously. Remember noting it only because of the near association to the Zoom! Schwartz! Profigliano! drinking game.

  53. 53.

    Parfigliano

    Been on here before…and Hogg dont smell right with daddy being re-tired FBI and all the sudden out of all the kids in that school he is ONE of the voices that the Media is currently humpin 24/7…

  61. 61.

    Steve in the ATL

    @condorcet runner-up:

    What I love about these kids is they don’t stoop to the level of mouth-breathers like Rep. King, but that doesn’t also mean that they can’t dish it back and then some. Calling out Rubio to talk to his colleague is simple, but devastating. Very elegant response. Professional dems could learn a thing or two from these kids.

    Indeed. Hogg is a boss!

  63. 63.

    joel hanes

    @Parfigliano:

    As far as I can tell, the DCCC is not taking sides yet.
    As is so often, if they commit funds, they’ll choose someone they think will win, not necessarily someone who _should_ win. Whoever they choose (if they do), some people will be butthurt.

    JD Scholten is the fundraising leader, by quite a bit, and I’ve sent him a couple contributions.
    I’ve been giving money to Leann Jacobsen too.

    But King’s district is R+many, and its racist Dutch Reformed farmers and tinytown residents have internalized King as the outspoken figurehead of their tribe, even though he’s one of the most worthless members of the House (seven terms: only one bill introduced, IIRC, and that to rename a postoffice or something). The district has almost no racial or ethnic or religious diversity, and likes it that way; the residents defend King’s bigotry because they agree with him.

    So help, please, but don’t get emotionally committed to winning, because chances are good that King will prevail.

    In the normal course of trailing-indicator states, the blue wave would reach Iowa in about six to eight more years — but I’m not confident that it will ever arrive, because the young people and the ambitious have been leaving the state for so many years that the remaining old, white populace seems committed to the idea of closing the state’s doors to the post-1990 world, even if it tanks the economy and finishes the job of destroying the schools.

  64. 64.

    SFAW

    @different-church-lady:

    Speaking of humping, why don’t you try the table leg?

    Is he a moron? Or an asshole? Or, as Steeplejack might say: Porque no los dos?

    [Note to Steeplejack: no, I haven’t forgotten what you told me the other night.]

  65. 65.

    dmsilev

    @Parfigliano: You obviously like pie, and in some areas of the country, pie and pizza are synonyms, so therefore you are involved in a pedophilia ring hosted in a pizzeria organized by Clinton loyalists under the protection of agents of the Deep State.

    Go ahead, prove me wrong.

  74. 74.

    SFAW

    @joel hanes:

    Joel –
    I know you mean well, but you’re responding to someone who is a junior Alex Jones, but without Jones’s towering intellect.

  75. 75.

    The Very Reverend Crimson Fire of Compassion

    @SFAW: an auto-pummeling bankpfeiffengeschist? That’s like a self-licking ice cream cone. (ETA: I probably slaughtered the spelling, but it’s been a few years since I partied with the boys at Ramstein and I’m too lazy to google it right now)

  77. 77.

    Gvg

    @schrodingers_cat: no your tactic won’t work here in Florida. Running away from either Cuban or Puerto Rican heritage will lose support here and most gun restrictions are local. She can’t run away and it wouldn’t well if her classmates urged her to be more conventionally politically savvy. Also remember a month ago she didn’t know she was about to become a political lobbyist.
    also the kids are getting much better results than I have seen in 30 years of this issue partly by not starting in a timid position.

  79. 79.

    sukabi

    @Schlemazel: if that’s all they have, (faux offense at off color language) they’ve already lost, and they know it.

    The only things those attacking the Parkland kids are achieving is keeping the kids in the news, and exposing themselves as horrible deplorables.

  82. 82.

    joel hanes

    @JMG:

    The people of the Iowa 4th district must just be shit with legs. There’s no excuse.

    Most of them will have had no experience at all with people of any color except white.
    Or with any religion other than Protestant (the Catholics settled a different part of Iowa).
    They hate the very idea of cultural change. ANY cultural change.

    Their bigotry is fairly typical of such monochrome enclaves.
    That doesn’t make it right.

  83. 83.

    Steve in the ATL

    @SFAW:

    Is he a moron? Or an asshole? Or, as Steeplejack might say: Porque no los dos?

    ¿Por qué no los dos?

    /El Pedanto Gigante

  86. 86.

    SFAW

    @Steve in the ATL:

    /El Pedanto Gigante

    Yes. Steeplejack corrected me the other night. I noted my embarrassment (at the time), because I used to speak it fairly well.

    Tonight’s effort was a joke.

  90. 90.

    cmorenc

    As racist and repulsive as Rep Steve King is, consider what kind of people there are unfortunately enough of in his congressional district to elect him multiple times to Congress.

  93. 93.

    hervevillechaizelounge

    @joel hanes:

    Don’t the Dutch have a valiant tradition of fighting Nazis? We need to do more to tie all republicans to the ugly shit going on in Washington. If being white didn’t protect them against the first round of Nazis why would it protect them from Nazis 2.0?

    We also need to do more to make all republicans answer for Trump’s ugly hunting policies; every republican governor of a blue(ish) state needs to answer for elephant murder.

  94. 94.

    SFAW

    @Mnemosyne:

    Is it too much to ask that we get assigned a troll that actually speaks English?

    I was prepared to write off Cracker Barrel Boy as a troll-variant. But then, last night or the night before, when he dropped the bullshit affectations when he wrote, he was mostly coherent, and actually somewhat reasonable.

    One hopes he decides to stick to standard English in the future.

  96. 96.

    Yutsano

    @Parfigliano: Fuck off. Hogg attends that school regardless of his parentage. Hogg experienced a trauma I don’t want any other child in the United States to experience. He could be the long lost grandson of J, Edgar Hoover for all I care. Your “critique” is facile and feeds into right wing paranoia.

  98. 98.

    condorcet runner-up

    Gang, I thought we had a policy of not feeding the trolls around this place …

  99. 99.

    Enzymer

    @joel hanes: mostly right, I grew up in central Nebraska in similar demographics. Most of King’s district is lily white, but there are a few towns that are growing because they have a meat packing plant or other industrial plant. Those towns (especially the meat packing towns) have large numbers of Hispanic and African immigrants. My home town is similar, currently 50% Hispanic, 10%African & 40% White multigenerational US. The change in these bustling towns terrifies those who live outside. It’s been interesting to watch the reactions of other small town folks to the rising diversity.

  101. 101.

    joel hanes

    @hervevillechaizelounge:

    Dutch have a valiant tradition

    Actual Nederlanders are pretty self-righteous, and have been for centuries, but they live in a tiny nation surrounded by people with different languages and religions. They are tolerant because experience has taught them to be tolerant.

    Iowa’s Dutch Reformed protestants abandoned the “cosmopolitan” fleshpots of Amsterdam and Rotterdam for the wilds of Iowa over a century and a half ago, and since then, they’ve seen nothing that shakes their consensus belief that their rural, provincial, parochial way of life is Right with a capital R.

  102. 102.

    Steve in the ATL

    @joel hanes: great article about them in the New Yorker a few weeks ago. IIRC it concluded that even those who were not racist or self righteous assholes would never vote Dem because of abortion.

    Fuckem, to quote an old dude who sometimes posts here.

  104. 104.

    efgoldman

    @SFAW:

    One hopes he decides to stick to standard English in the future.

    Omnes and I, at least, have said so to (him?). We got a ration of shit for our troubles. I can’t possibly know anything because i am ooooooooollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllld.

    Fuckem

  106. 106.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @efgoldman: Even if s/he now switches to conventional English, s/he can fuck off. I am not an asshole about minor grammar things. Fake dialect is pretentious. Even if it goes in a reverse snobbery way.

  108. 108.

    cain

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Yesterday we had the doctored photo of Emma on front page by JGC and today this. Why play into the hands of RWNJs and give their hate filled memes more oxygen and allow them to change the topic. Why not talk about the good Emma and her classmates are doing instead. Stop feeding the RW narrative by repeating it even if it is to mock.

    I think to some extent we feed on outrage. I think you are right that we need to stop quoting the and ranting at them. Ignoring them might be better. The people who read the crap they say are already deplorables. It’s the media we need to smack around since they do.

  111. 111.

    Steeplejack

    Okay, this is bullshit. Someone—presumably Adam?—just nuked the post upstairs, which has been out for an hour and had 23 comments when I looked at it only a few minutes ago. WTF? If there was something substantially wrong with the post, do an update or explain things in a comment. Don’t just disappear the whole thread Soviet Politburo style.

    Or if something else happened, please drop an explanation.

  112. 112.

    Steeplejack

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Haven’t read the thread, but I saw “dialect” in one of the bottom comments and immediately knew what the problem was. Ugh.

    I remember thinking last week: “It will be kind of amazing if this is what gets me to start using the pie filter.”

  113. 113.

    jonas

    @JMG: These are always the people who then turn around and complain that they’re unfairly characterized as a bunch of ignorant, racist rednecks out in the rural boonies. Well c’mon! Throw us a bone, here!

  114. 114.

    Steeplejack

    @Steeplejack:

    And now the “Whistleblower” post is back—but only if you delete that tab and then go back into it via the front page or the “next post” button. Refresh no bueno. Go figure.

  115. 115.

    Steeplejack

    @Steeplejack:

    Well, apparently FYWP is out to get me. I see that other people were able to comment during the time when I was being told “Sorry, the post you are looking for is not available. Maybe you want to perform a search?”

  116. 116.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    @joel hanes:
    I work with a guy from the Netherlands. He immigrated here to be with his girlfriend in 2006. He’s a right-winger. Interestingly, back in Europe he worked in printing and now stocks shelves for a living.

  117. 117.

    SFAW

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Even if s/he now switches to conventional English, s/he can fuck off. I am not an asshole about minor grammar things. Fake dialect is pretentious. Even if it goes in a reverse snobbery way.

    Although Cracker Barrel Boy was a major dickhead to you, efg, me, and perhaps some others, I’m semi-willing to “forget about it” — if he stops that idiotic schtick, and writes like E.B. White instead of Look-At-Meee!!!-I’m-Cletus-Spucker. I expect his response to this comment will be more attempted verbal abuse, but maybe he’ll surprise me.

    But, yeah, the pretentiousness is fucking stupid.

  118. 118.

    SFAW

    @efgoldman:

    I can’t possibly know anything because i am ooooooooollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllld.

    Well, that’s true, but still no reason for CBB to be as big an asshole as he was.

  120. 120.

    Jager

    @joel hanes: We had relatives in that part of Iowa, we went down for a family reunion thing when I was a kid. I overhead my dad say to my grandfather on the way home, “what a bunch of round headed assholes”. Gramps said “uh huh”.

  122. 122.

    Jager

    @hervevillechaizelounge: The Dutch Resistance was well organized against the Nazis, when the Germans were stripping the country of scrap metal during the war, Dutch children wrote on a 200 year old church bell that was to be shipped to Germany, “Ring, ring old church bell, the people taking you will burn in hell.”

  123. 123.

    Jager

    @SFAW: For what ever reason, ’round head” was a derogatory thing in the 50’s, as in “what are you a round head” I have idea what the hell it meant.

  124. 124.

    NotMax

    @Steeplejack

    ‘Twas due to Adam rejiggering the post title and its link link to read Defence instead of Defense for the British department.

  125. 125.

    Mel

    @Jager: “Roundhead” started out as a detogatory term for Parliamentarians during the English Civil War.

    I still hear people here in parts of Appalachia (and in parts of the Midwest) occasionally use it as an insult, esp. with regards to political arguments, although it has long since lost any direct connection to its distant origins.

  126. 126.

    Steeplejack

    @NotMax:

    Well, all righty, then. At least I’m not crazy and/​or my computer hasn’t been taken over by Facebook and/​or Russian bots.

  131. 131.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Gvg:

    Running away from either Cuban or Puerto Rican heritage will lose support here and most gun restrictions are local. She can’t run away and it wouldn’t well if her classmates urged her to be more conventionally politically savvy. Also remember a month ago she didn’t know she was about to become a political lobbyist.
    also the kids are getting much better results than I have seen in 30 years of this issue partly by not starting in a timid position.

    Wow! way to totally misrepresent what I said and this is hardly the first time you have done it. I have no advice for brave Emma, she doesn’t need it. I was wondering out loud, whether echoing whatever RW monkeys are doing to change the topic, here on the Balloon Juice FP is a good tactic.

    Yesterday we had the doctored photo of Emma on front page by JGC and today this. Why play into the hands of RWNJs and give their hate filled memes more oxygen and allow them to change the topic. Why not talk about the good Emma and her classmates are doing instead. Stop feeding the RW narrative by repeating it even if it is to mock.

    Where did I tell E to disown her heritage, you came up with that yourself.

  133. 133.

    Ridnik Chrome

    @Mel:

    Oops! “Derogatory”, not “detogatory”!

    “Detogatory” should be used only when referring to senators in ancient Rome.

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